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[.] Thursday, February 23, 2012 3:43:27 PM 
 Natives....Dead horses....

But what is this, a Wounded Knee indian gathering?



  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Budred from Wednesday, February 22, 2012 6:07:56 AM)
[Vaillant 3.0] Wednesday, February 22, 2012 10:46:57 AM 
I just think you need to chill out a little. That was only a joke. Your name wasn't brought up here with any intention of malice towards you. Is your name the only thing that concerns you here?

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Budred from Wednesday, February 22, 2012 5:30:50 AM)
[Budred] Wednesday, February 22, 2012 6:07:56 AM 
Idiot boy thinks I'm crying but I'm not.
I just think you guys are beating a deadhorse, I haven't commented in this thread for weeks.
[Budred] Wednesday, February 22, 2012 5:30:50 AM 
I'm not sure what I do to you but have your fun, it's cool.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Tuesday, February 21, 2012 8:41:59 AM)
[Budred] Wednesday, February 22, 2012 5:28:28 AM 
The man with no brain tries again.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Tuesday, February 21, 2012 5:51:33 AM)
[Head banger] Tuesday, February 21, 2012 5:35:15 PM 

thanks.  I will.  last time we were here I didnt realize that the second last launch was on.  went to crystal river that day to see manatees, missed it by like 5 minutes.  saw the exaust trail

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  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Tuesday, February 21, 2012 4:29:06 PM)
[guidogodoy] Tuesday, February 21, 2012 4:38:08 PM 
Oh, and nothing would spice up a Saturday morning like "Surrerin' till Suffrage!" Never forgot, 19th amendment.

CRANK IT, HELLRIDER! (you'll have to, sound is kinda low)




[guidogodoy] Tuesday, February 21, 2012 4:31:14 PM 
"Interplanet Janet?!" Now THERE was an obscure one. They very rarely played it. More of mine?

"No More Kings!" George III was portrayed as a right bastard!!!



  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Saturday, February 18, 2012 8:12:22 PM)
[guidogodoy] Tuesday, February 21, 2012 4:29:06 PM 
Glad to help ya fuck! Have a fucking great vacation! You are fucked in that you can't see any more space shuttles but what the fuck can ya do, eh?

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Head banger from Tuesday, February 21, 2012 2:51:47 PM)
[Head banger] Tuesday, February 21, 2012 2:51:47 PM 
fucking excelent.  I never did watch those clips as I last checked this at work, and they showed a blocked.  youtube is blocked there.  am on vaca, near orlando now, and have no time for learning stuff. 


I once heard a comedy bit on how fuck was the most versitile word in the english language, noun, verb, adverb, adjective.  speaking native canadian as well as I do, I think it was all right, it all sounded right.  probably works with other words though
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Tuesday, February 21, 2012 12:23:04 AM)
[Vaillant 3.0] Tuesday, February 21, 2012 8:41:59 AM 
Your name just has such a beautiful ring to it. "Say it loud and there's (metal) music playing."

Just replace "Maria" with "Budred" and you'll know how we feel.



  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Budred from Tuesday, February 21, 2012 3:43:59 AM)
[J.D. DIAMOND] Tuesday, February 21, 2012 5:51:33 AM 


  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Budred from Tuesday, February 21, 2012 3:43:59 AM)
[Budred] Tuesday, February 21, 2012 3:43:59 AM 
I'm a native speaker?
I"m hardly speaking anything anymore and I'm still brought up.
You guys won, what's the point?
[guidogodoy] Tuesday, February 21, 2012 12:23:04 AM 
Shit, man. Sorry to avoid your question and I am sure that a native speaker could offer better help but, IMH non-native O, you need a VERB not a subject for a gramatically correct sentence. Just like the vid on "Verb" mentioned: a verb can question like "What is it?"

To extend that to your question, "What the fuck?" simply changes the word "fuck" to a more intensive form of "it" or something a tad harsher like "what the hell?" It is short for "What the fuck IS Hellrider smoking these days?" The key is the verb, not the subject. It is a shortened form of something like "What the fuck IS wrong?" The answer to your question will give you a direct object: "Hellrider is smoking bananas."

So, yes, you have a complete sentence as it stands. Even as a question. Ask a native speaker, though, to be sure. What the fuck do I know?
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Head banger from Saturday, February 18, 2012 7:03:06 AM)
Edited at: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 12:25:00 AM
[spapad] Saturday, February 18, 2012 8:14:06 PM 
Ah, come on J.D. .............search your childhood................you know School House Rock. 

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Saturday, February 18, 2012 7:13:53 PM)
[spapad] Saturday, February 18, 2012 8:12:22 PM 
I think interplanet Janet is pretty good. lol

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, February 18, 2012 4:56:39 PM)
[J.D. DIAMOND] Saturday, February 18, 2012 7:13:53 PM 
You knew....Brian_Evans posts here on a regular basis.

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Head banger from Saturday, February 18, 2012 5:21:57 PM)
[Head banger] Saturday, February 18, 2012 5:21:57 PM 
I didnt know nerd cartoons existed.
[guidogodoy] Saturday, February 18, 2012 4:56:39 PM 
I scared somebody once who asked (in a class) if anyone knew some of the parts of the Preamble to the Constitution of the US. His point was to show how closely it followed what was set forth under the decrees as a result of the French Revolution. Yup, I sang the whole thing.

Now, I ask you, which Schoolhouse Rock could beat Verb?!? Do speak up...I have some that could equal it!




[spapad] Saturday, February 18, 2012 4:16:21 PM 
Interjection is my favorite, but the preamble song has stuck with me my whole life, just like all the other schoolhouse rock songs. I showed them to Flora as well.






  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS from Saturday, February 18, 2012 3:07:34 PM)
[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Saturday, February 18, 2012 3:07:34 PM 
If you had watched Schoolhouse Rock, you would remember it! Conjunction junction, what's your function? I used to sing that one all the time! We actually learned something watching Saturday morning cartoons when we were kids!!





  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Head banger from Saturday, February 18, 2012 7:03:06 AM)
[Head banger] Saturday, February 18, 2012 7:03:06 AM 
could it not also be a question though, or do I need a subject, like what the fuck is hellrider smoking these days?

dont recall schoolhouse rock
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Friday, February 17, 2012 11:07:08 PM)
[guidogodoy] Friday, February 17, 2012 11:07:08 PM 
Yes. That is an interjection. Usually without a question mark, though: What the fuck!

Schoolhouse Rock never made it to Canada? "Interjections, show excitement or emotion....or anger over Hellrider!" HAAAAA!!!



  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Head banger from Friday, February 17, 2012 7:48:51 AM)
Edited at: Friday, February 17, 2012 11:10:52 PM
[Head banger] Friday, February 17, 2012 7:48:51 AM 
question
is "For fucks sakes?"  a complete sentance?

thanks
[Vaillant 3.0] Friday, February 17, 2012 2:37:40 AM 
No way, Jose! Make it Bakersfield!!

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Friday, February 17, 2012 2:33:15 AM)
[guidogodoy] Friday, February 17, 2012 2:33:15 AM 
HAAAAA!!! You "pine for me?" Did I die or something? Perhaps in your heart. LOL!!!!! I knew I meant something to you despite your words.

"Runaway" sentence?" No. That is what "native speakers" (ask Bud) call a "run-on" sentence. "Exponentially improved?" Ok, in your mind. Hanging preposition, still a misuse of an antonym and sentence fragment. Yup, certainly a run-on sentence. Your affirmations that "I believe" don't help the sentence. Obviously, you believe it or you wouldn't have written it, no? As you pine for me, it needs no aclaration.

Rhetoric. You should have started with: Guido, OH how I pine for thee. Yes, I know. Thank you. Obrigado. Gracias. Merci.

Now you are getting back to your regular self! HAA! This is actually interesting. BTW, the only red I like is the "combined with" part. That makes a nice link. Of course a native speaker would be the best to help you with all i have said above.

Now, how about that Live Epitaph Album?!? I can't wait!! I hope it is Hammond!!


  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by . from Thursday, February 16, 2012 11:29:44 PM)
Edited at: Friday, February 17, 2012 2:36:35 AM
[.] Thursday, February 16, 2012 11:29:44 PM 
 guido, how I pine for thee! 

If you are going that route, please take note of the following correction to the initial sentence structure:

"I believe what makes you think more about decline, rather than the way things naturally go (like the river meets the ocean and the mountains meet the sky), are all the photos and videos available today and your own memories combined with the ever looming recognition of your own mortality now that the wisdom of age is setting in. 
I don't care, I like Judas Priest declining or inclining. "



And it still makes no sense whatsoever.
It's still a runaway sentence but exponentially improved.

Wherever you inclinations lie, Budred, be assured that Priest isn't over the hill just yet. Well, not too terribly over the hill. 
I think. 
But I may be wrong. 
"What say you?"
 
[guidogodoy] Thursday, February 16, 2012 1:37:25 PM 
I am certain that many would opine that to be a wonderful suggestion!

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Head banger from Thursday, February 16, 2012 1:24:25 PM)
[Head banger] Thursday, February 16, 2012 1:24:25 PM 
perhaps we could all recline.... in our chairs and relax before climbing the incline to the top of the hill.
[guidogodoy] Thursday, February 16, 2012 11:09:57 AM 
Although I am apparently not a native speaker of English (?!), just a brief comment: you shoud read more carefully. My comment wasn't about the word "decline," rather your misuse of "incline" as its antonym in that context.

Extra points for the Disney reference, though.

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by . from Thursday, February 16, 2012 10:13:04 AM)
[.] Thursday, February 16, 2012 10:13:04 AM 
To answer your last question: the negativity got to me. 

For the rest, "decline" is a perfectly valid word, one which was first used by Budred as he stated his opinion. He's the native speaker, so he should know better than you, José Carioca.
I still don't agree with his opinion, though I respect it and it changes nothing about mine. Like I respect your opinion but couldn't give a rats ass about it.

[guidogodoy] Thursday, February 16, 2012 12:42:09 AM 
You certainly didn't get your antonym right with the part about "declining."  "Inclining?" heeee..not in that context. Are they leaning forward or something? I am more inclined to think that you are, once again, being a jerk with someone who doesn't choose to engage you in conversation.

For your own edification, your contrast speaks more to a band's "rise" or "ascent" as the opposite of its decline. Of course, you already know this and we are all just missing your joke.

I still wonder, what the hell happened to you? Talk about a "steady rate of decline."

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by . from Wednesday, February 15, 2012 11:48:17 PM)
[.] Wednesday, February 15, 2012 11:48:17 PM 
 And yet I said nothing that made any sense whatsoever.


  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guitardude from Monday, February 13, 2012 5:54:49 PM)
[guitardude] Monday, February 13, 2012 5:54:49 PM 

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by . from Sunday, February 12, 2012 7:52:49 PM)
[.] Sunday, February 12, 2012 7:52:49 PM 
You are perfectly fine saying whatever the hell you want BUT I disagree with the "steady rate of decline" . Spare me the mathematics. 

I think what makes you think more about decline, rather than the way things naturally go, are all the photos and videos available today and your own memories and the ever looming recognition of your own mortality now that the wisdom of age is setting in.
I don't care, I like Judas Priest declining or inclining. 



  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Budred from Tuesday, January 31, 2012 3:49:45 AM)
[Head banger] Wednesday, February 01, 2012 8:08:51 AM 
punctuation, is; over?rated!
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Tuesday, January 31, 2012 11:40:10 PM)
[guidogodoy] Tuesday, January 31, 2012 11:40:10 PM 
Perhaps fewer exclamation marks?

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Head banger from Tuesday, January 31, 2012 10:32:19 PM)
[Head banger] Tuesday, January 31, 2012 10:32:19 PM 
such a simple idea.  it wont catch on will it?

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Tuesday, January 31, 2012 10:30:28 PM)
[guidogodoy] Tuesday, January 31, 2012 10:30:28 PM 
ENJOY PRIEST!!!!!!

There, that about sums up my whole attitude.

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Head banger from Tuesday, January 31, 2012 10:20:20 PM)
[Becks] Tuesday, January 31, 2012 10:24:17 PM 

LMAO!

Man this thread has gone a bit nuts. I just enjoy Judas Priest heavy metal, and will continue to do so. I will criticise if I feel there is something to criticise, but maybe I am just an optimist and make like Monty Python - always look on the bright side of life.


  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Head banger from Tuesday, January 31, 2012 10:20:20 PM)
[Head banger] Tuesday, January 31, 2012 10:20:20 PM 
no opinion is valid without at least TWO WORDS in all caps.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Tuesday, January 31, 2012 11:39:26 AM)
[J.D. DIAMOND] Tuesday, January 31, 2012 4:30:33 PM 
What I meant was it will be hard to read Budred's post/opinion about the new album when he doesn't want the band to even release the album since he wants them to retire.

Its like someone saying they are not going to watch the Super bowl because they hate the teams that are playing,yet when the Super Bowl gets here they are right there watching talking about it.

And fuck off with your  ya fuckin dick. 

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Brian_Evans from Tuesday, January 31, 2012 10:58:42 AM)
Edited at: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 4:31:39 PM
[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Tuesday, January 31, 2012 3:44:45 PM 
A-FUCKING-MEN!!! And I certainly have enjoyed the EPITAPH tour and am looking forward to the new album!

 

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Kirby *curb* from Tuesday, January 31, 2012 11:52:35 AM)
[Kirby *curb*] Tuesday, January 31, 2012 11:52:35 AM 
 Just enjoy the band 
[guidogodoy] Tuesday, January 31, 2012 11:39:26 AM 
Wow. For someone "who just wants to let this drop" you certainly do write a lot.

You have trouble believing that nodody sees that Priest is in decline and that the last tour was "one of the worst" you have seen. I don't.
You are confused by my comments and feel "ridiculed." Ok. So be it. You have ridiculed others. As for my comments, only the blind (or those who don't choose to see) can't help but see that you do often play the role of "victim." That has also been mentioned by many a member and my comments going way back to the "why all the web police?" thread you felt the need to start help illustrate the point. There is a pattern there.

Good enough for a "final word?" See? I didn't even use bold or caps.

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Budred from Tuesday, January 31, 2012 3:49:45 AM)
[Brian_Evans] Tuesday, January 31, 2012 10:58:42 AM 
 So Budreds opinion about the new Priest cd will be invalid just because he thinks they should retire?? What the heck kind of thinking is that?? scheez
[Head banger] Tuesday, January 31, 2012 7:55:41 AM 
Stop being mean to me...
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Monday, January 30, 2012 11:32:18 PM)
[Head banger] Tuesday, January 31, 2012 7:48:44 AM 
I dunno.  this tour was better than the last.  not just rob, but the sound of the band in general.  better show, better energy, scott seemed beter....  maybe they were on the decline and are now on the way up?  probably not, this might just be an upward blip, but its not a straight line decent.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Tuesday, January 31, 2012 6:38:10 AM)
[J.D. DIAMOND] Tuesday, January 31, 2012 6:38:10 AM 
Of course Priest has been on a decline since the reunion tour that was 8 years ago,Rob was 52 and now is 60,Glenn was 56 and now is 64. Even maiden's Dickinson isn't flawless although has been more consistant than Rob yes,Motorhead is on a decline...Lemmy is 66 years old now,its not just Priest.  Most people in here "see this" they are not retarded,no really need for Jimmy or you to even point that out in the first place.

You did mention you wish they would retire,and that means what is says so if they retire and hang everything up compleately that is your wish.....so when the new album comes out your opinion really is invalid then right? It should be because you wish them to retire,if you like it or don't that won't be the point...alls you will be able to really say is you wish they would of retired instead of putting out the album,we shouldn't see you posting opinions on song titles,song structures ect....


  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Budred from Tuesday, January 31, 2012 3:49:45 AM)
Edited at: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 7:05:19 AM
[Budred] Tuesday, January 31, 2012 3:49:45 AM 
Seriously Guido, you are not getting what I said.
This whole argument has been about you guys liking the last tour and me not.
Not a single person here has to agree with me on this. Not you, not anyone. I haven't
attacked a single person for saying how much they liked this show, I just keep responding
to people ripping me for not liking it.  I'm most confused by your comments because your
bringing up things that have nothing to do with what this was all about.
I said I completely agree with Jimmy's (last) post. He wasn't referring to this tour in his last post,
he was talking about a steady rate of decline since the Re-union. I have trouble believing no one
sees this. He stated facts, not opinion. If you have to ridicule me or rip me then so be it. You think I'm
attacking or wanting people to agree with me and I don't. Say or think what you will, I don't care.
I would still like to try to get along on this site. Why do you think I'm not blowing up over this?
If it's a last word thing, have your's, I won't respond. Here's my last comment and I hope it's clear
enough.


I didn't think the last tour was as good as previous tours and I agree with Jimmy that Priest
has been on a steady decline since Re-union.
I'm glad most here liked their last tour and I don't take issue with a single person who did. I did
say "I Can't Believe No One Sees This" referring to the steady decline but I'm not ripping anyone
for it nor do I think they should change their mind to agree with me. My comments are how I feel,
not how anyone else should. I can't make this any clearer. My only mistake was the sarcasm towards
guitardude. I did that because I was letting anger take over. I'm doing this to stop that!

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Monday, January 30, 2012 9:24:01 PM)
[guidogodoy] Monday, January 30, 2012 11:32:18 PM 
Hogwash! What bunk! Why is it that we never see eye-to-eye? Ok, you are taller. It might explain something.

All that aside, if you find someone to offer the exact same theory I might agree with them.

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Head banger from Monday, January 30, 2012 11:18:13 PM)
[Head banger] Monday, January 30, 2012 11:18:13 PM 
perhaps we are speaking in a different language that just happens to use the same words?

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Monday, January 30, 2012 9:24:01 PM)
[guidogodoy] Monday, January 30, 2012 9:24:01 PM 
While a nice start and I do appreciate you "trying to watch what you write," Bud, you then accuse me of not reading or comprehending what you've said?! Errrm....thanks?! Talk about a veiled complement. I can guarantee, I both read and have the metal capacity to understand what you write. I just find it funny that you say that you don't ask for people to agree with you, rather, Jimmy (with whom you stated that you agree 100% in his post). That is the big difference? Ok, I don't mind if you disagree with me in that Priest is a joke and off their game as long as you agree with everyone else who has actually SEEN the current tour and says that this was the best concert more than a decade. 

How is that? Don't agree with me, just agree with those who agree with me! Perfect end to a dead-end discussion without any sort of "ridicule" or misconceptions on anybody's behalf, right? 

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Budred from Monday, January 30, 2012 4:19:48 AM)
[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Monday, January 30, 2012 2:25:32 PM 
You are so right Freeze, they did not mail it in. They are truly giving it all that they have. I can only speak for myself, but we got every single pennies worth and then some!! My only comment would be that I wish you had been with us in Hammond because that was jaw dropping unbelievable. But I completely understand and I respect your decision not to go. It was very difficult to see someone else in KK's place.

Wonderful to hear from you as always!!

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Monday, January 30, 2012 12:29:01 PM)
[Deep Freeze] Monday, January 30, 2012 12:29:01 PM 
 You see?? THIS is what happens when I "go away". Spirited, lively argument. (*HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!) Oh my!  OK then, MY turn!!;

Haven't seen the tour. Decided that I would not, as (for ME) , it is NOT Priest. No KK, no Priest. No Rob, no Priest.... etc.  I stand by that. HOWEVER, I love, love LOVE the video, HRMG !!!  A really awesome effort! Is it "perfect"? , of course not! But, as mentioned, it does not have to be. Rob does sound pretty good from what I can make out on this video and, if that is indicative of the entire tour, I would say you are all getting your money's worth. SO glad to see that they are really "bringing it".

I figure those that have shelled out the money to see this tour are, by and large, very happy with what they are seeing and hearing. THAT makes me happy. They have not "mailed it in". They are giving it 100% and that is true professionalism. VERY cool.

This place has always had those that simply do not care for various aspects of the Band's performances. Even I have had my complaints about Rob's vocals. I remember VIVIDLY his performance in 1979 and I really don't think I could even compare it to ANYTHING he has done post-2005...BUT, he is far from "terrible". He has adapted to his age and abilities and he is a tremendous performer. There's just no argument about it.

At this point in my post, I would generally try to smooth things over with some diplomatic comments about being brethren and whatnot but, as I am not here all that much anymore, I really do not think I am qualified to mediate. (Probably never was!) Nonetheless, I send MUCH love to you all!!!!!!

[guitardude] Monday, January 30, 2012 11:07:11 AM 
He of whom I will not mention!
No apology needed, as I wasn`t offended. I only posted your name to address you, as in the header of a letter, not to speak of you. I`ve been sitting by reading all of this (becoming increasingly frustrated) and couldn`t understand why it was happening really, but it is what it is. I say just enjoy the band while we still have them and for everyone not to be so picky, Priest are not perfect, no one is. Just keep an open mind and look past any snafus that may happen , and not be so critical when they do. And no offense is meant by the way I opened this post.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Budred from Monday, January 30, 2012 3:59:30 AM)
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  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by METALMANJP from Monday, January 30, 2012 4:29:18 AM)
[Budred] Monday, January 30, 2012 4:43:18 AM 
The key here is that I said many, not all.
I was trying to make a point that I'm not the only one who thinks this wasn't their best tour.
I didn't say the majority would say it sucks.

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Sunday, January 29, 2012 3:57:27 PM)
[Budred] Monday, January 30, 2012 4:37:08 AM 
You make a good point about the attitude thing because I've thought about that also.
Backtracking? I only said awhile back that after listening to my videos that I was a little
confused because they sounded a little better than I remember. I said That I would like
to see them in Pittsburgh to see if I had the same opinion and my second post on this
said that after reading my first post it may have sounded harsher than intended. Otther
than that I have been saying the same thing all along. I didn't think this show was as good
as earlier shows and I agreed with Jimmy's last post that Priest was in decline. I still think
they should call it a day and even if it is contradictory, I still would love to hear them put out another
Metal album. That's all I've been wanting since Rob came back and they haven't done it yet.
I'm not playing victim, I don't even want this to go on anymore.

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS from Sunday, January 29, 2012 3:43:53 PM)
[METALMANJP] Monday, January 30, 2012 4:29:18 AM 
Nice Billy Joel Quote !

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Sunday, January 29, 2012 2:48:55 PM)
[Budred] Monday, January 30, 2012 4:19:48 AM 
Guido, you have helped me more than any person here so I am trying to watch what I write. You are posting
without reading or comprehending what I said. I didn't say anyone had to agree with me. I said I can't believe
no one can see what Jimmy see's in this band. I emphasized that I was referring to his last post. It wasn't about
this last tour, it was about what has happened to them since Rob's return. Those questions I asked in the other(?)
thread kind of summed up what he was saying in his last post here. THe other things you're trying to ridicule me
with hasn't been an issue in over a year. I only post in Web Police when it's something more about me than
something in other threads. I would rather do this than start new threads. Also, I had great seats, I'm not sure where
you guys got the shitty seat thing from. I having coffee right now and there is no crying going on and I don't think
this is bitchin'. Let's end this, it's getting out of hand.

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Sunday, January 29, 2012 2:48:55 PM)
[Budred] Monday, January 30, 2012 3:59:30 AM 

I'm laughing because I'm trying to be an asshole now. This is getting so ridiculous.
I stated many times that I wasn't trying to impose my opinion on anyone. The majority
of my posts are in response to posts referring to me. You guys keep including me in
your posts and because I keep responding you guys keep getting madder. I have my
opinion on this tour and you guys have yours. We can still get along, WTF? The majority
of the people bashing me right now I go out of my way not to offend or piss off. I'm not
going to keep making this worse. If you guys want to keep going with this feel free.

@guitardude
You're the only one I feel I should apologize to. I guess I got sick of seeing my name
brought up in this thread and I was trying to be a dick to you for doing it also.


  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS from Sunday, January 29, 2012 11:46:14 AM)
[J.D. DIAMOND] Sunday, January 29, 2012 3:57:27 PM 
Budred wrote:  That is why I would like to see them retire also. About the "who has more people on thier side" comment,you do here obviously because the last remaining diehards are here.If you want an accurate assesment of thier performance you would have to go outside of this site to get it.Maybe a poll on facebook or youtube or something like that.I would bet that you would find many people who thought they were subpar.
  

If you would like to see the band retire,then when the new album comes out you shouldn't have to voice your opinion about it then right? After all you wish them to retire but somehow when it comes out,you'll be here with something to say about it wich will be your "contradiction".

And I'm finding more people outside this site that are saying Rob "DOES SOUND BETTER THAN HE HAS IN YEARS".  The King Diamond forum has a thread of painfull singers to listen to live these days and one member said Rob Halford and I was expecting the entire thread to agree with him but it was the opposite,the rest of them posted how much better he is on this tour.

I have not seen the show,but I sure am reading alot of positive things about Rob's voice.  That clip that HRMG has of  Beyond The Realms Of Death from the Cleveland show was almost perfect,I'm not sure what more you could possibly want or be expecting,thats what just doesn't make sense here,but your converting it into as if the rest of us think everybody here should have the same opinion looking like fanboys and thats not true here. I think you and Jimmy are off the mark on this one.








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Edited at: Sunday, January 29, 2012 4:29:09 PM
[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Sunday, January 29, 2012 3:43:53 PM 
You also have to remember that Budred was bitching about Priest BEFORE he even went to the Cleveland show. His mind was already made up. Hard to change someone's opinion when they already have decided that the band should retire. Yes, he had incredibly shitty seats and was getting a lot of distortion from the speakers. We had AWESOME seats and were able to hear Rob singing without the microphone during Breakin' The Law. My video proves that Bud has been listening to crappy vocalists for far too long and wouldn't know if someone is singing in key or not. Was Rob perfect? No, we never said he was at any show. But then again, I have NEVER heard a perfect vocal performance by anyone. Rob came damn close in Hammond and if anyone gets a bootleg or soundboard recording of that show, I WANT ONE!!!

So stop backtracking JJ and Budred. You come back now trying to rewrite what you originally said. You love to play the victims, don't you? You bitch about Priest and Rob and then when we come after you for your bullshit posts, you play the victims - oh, boo hoo, the diehard fans are so mean to me! Go have your pitty party somewhere else, I'm tired of it!

And I'm posting it again, because yeah, IT WAS THAT FUCKING INCREDIBLE!!!



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[guidogodoy] Sunday, January 29, 2012 2:48:55 PM 
His very last post I agree with 100 percent
and it's amazing that people refuse to see this.


This was my favorite part of that comment. Read this as "it is amazing that I can't get anyone else to agree with me!" "Why don't people who have seen the show not agree 100% with someone who hasn't?" "Why don't people get my sense of humor or believe me when I affirm that my opinion is the truth?" "Should I stay or should I go?" "Why all the web police?!?" 

Oh, boo fucking hoo. You got shitty seats. You claim to like other types of music? Me too. So "go on and cry in your coffee but don't come bitchin' to me."

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Budred from Sunday, January 29, 2012 5:36:42 AM)
[Head banger] Sunday, January 29, 2012 2:18:26 PM 
I didnt see them in 81.  this tour they sounded at least as good as when I saw them in 91
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[Brian_Evans] Sunday, January 29, 2012 1:46:06 PM 
 
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Budred from Sunday, January 29, 2012 11:25:15 AM)
[Vaillant 3.0] Sunday, January 29, 2012 1:37:42 PM 
"If you want an accurate assesment of their performance you would have to go outside of
this site to get it. Maybe a poll on facebook or youtube or something like that. I would bet that you
would find many people who thought they were subpar."


To that I disagree. You'll see the exact same thing you see here, from the diehards to the newbies that have little to no background of ever seeing the band "at their peak". Look at the fan reviews of the band on the Live Nation website and overall they believe JP is still performing great shows. It's inevitable. Judas Priest is just that good right now! You and Jimmy are really in the minority at this point. Actually, not even Jimmy. He hasn't seen them live in this tour, so he doesn't count. So it's just you and that Starbreaker fellow.
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[guitardude] Sunday, January 29, 2012 11:59:02 AM 
Yea, 81! You bet your ass I believe this.
You laugh, but why didn`t you answer the question I ask?
Think what you may, but being close minded about others opinions gets you nowhere.
Why is it that you seem to think that only your opinion is the one that counts?
Don`t say thats not the case, if that were true, your arguements in this threads would have ended days ago!   [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Budred from Sunday, January 29, 2012 11:25:15 AM)
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[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Sunday, January 29, 2012 11:46:14 AM 
So you can have YOUR opinion about Priest's performance, but Guitardude can't and you are laughing at him???? Did you even watch my video of BTROD from Cleveland that I posted from the very show that you are ripping? Hundreds of people walking out with us form that show, all praising how incredible Rob and Priest was that night, but you thought they were subpar. That is your opinion and you are entitled to it. But don't claim that others feel the same way when you have nothing to back it up.

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[Budred] Sunday, January 29, 2012 11:25:15 AM 

...as good as they were in 81?
             ...and you believe this? 


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[guitardude] Sunday, January 29, 2012 11:00:10 AM 
Budred
Let me understand something here, you don`t think the band is able to meet your criteria, so they should retire?
If you`re that unhappy with their performances, why spend the money going to the shows?
I`ve seen them more times that I can remember, starting off in 81. To me, they are still just as good now as then, they are accurate live, they don`t butcher the songs I know and love , like so many of these new bands always do.

My 12 year old, cannot be considered a "diehard" as his first show was the British Steel  Anniversary tour.
He has watched all of my old videos of Priest, and prefers the new Priest, versus the old. Hooked, you bet!
There`s an old saying , that I`m sure you`re familiar with..."If you don`t have anything nice to say, then don`t say anything at all",  you come on  the BANDS website and rip them, what do you really expect to get in return?
If they are so bad as you say, then let everyone go to the shows and find out themselves.
But as for me and my son, we`ll be there enjoying every single second they are onstage!   [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Budred from Sunday, January 29, 2012 5:36:42 AM)
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[Budred] Sunday, January 29, 2012 5:36:42 AM 

I'm not sure I'm the only one who said the last tour wasn't all that great and I seriously
doubt that any of Jimmy's conclusions came from me. His very last post I agree with 100 percent
and it's amazing that people refuse to see this. I don't think a single person can prove him wrong.
They may tell him he's wrong and they may even believe themselves when they do but everything
he stated in his (last) post was correct. That is why I would like to see them retire also. About the "who
has more people on their side" comment, you do here obviously because the last remaining diehards
are here. If you want an accurate assesment of their performance you would have to go outside of
this site to get it. Maybe a poll on facebook or youtube or something like that. I would bet that you
would find many people who thought they were subpar. I haven't seen Priest as many times as you
or alot of others but I have seen every tour except Ram It Down since Point Of Entry and this was in
my top three of bad performances. Why is it that my opinion has to be wrong because it doesn't go along
with most here. Considering how long I've been a fan and how many times I've seen them I think
my opinion is as valid as anyone else's. I didn't come here to rip Priest but lately there's nothing to praise.


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[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Sunday, January 29, 2012 12:08:11 AM 

Let me refresh your memory and everyone elses about what you actually said JJ:

[jimmyjames]
Thursday, January 12, 2012 1:45:02 AM


 

But you have nothing to compare their live performance to Vail. The only time you've seen them has been in the last few years. Ask guys like JD and Budred who saw them in the 80s when they were at their peak and they'll tell you that this band is in decline and anyone who tells you Halfords voice is as good as ever is just lying. His high vocals are completely shot to hell. He doesn't scream any more, he screeches. And if you call Priests performance "energetic" then I'd hate to see a band who you thought were lethargic. Halford can hardly walk now, hobbling around, hunched over the mike trying to read the teleprompter and screeching two cats stapled together. They've got nothing left. They were once my favourite band but over the last few years I just can't be bothered. 



So I call BULLSHIT! Rob's high vocals are NOT completely shot to hell and he doesn't screech as you claim he does like two cats stapled together. They have never been a band that runs all over the stage, so why do you expect them to do it now???? You have no idea what you are talking about and you are busted, period! They have a lot left, as my video from Cleveland proves. It was an outstanding performance, all three shows that I attended. So if you just can't be bothered, why are you here talking shit about a show that you have never seen? This tour blows the Turbo tour out of the water in my book - it was a great show, but this tour was OUTSTANDING! And given their age all I can say is: what more do you fucking want??? Some people are just NEVER SATISFIED!!!
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