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Nostradamus; The downfall of Priest
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[SkyRideR] Wednesday, December 17, 2008 11:38:12 AM 
[tasnam1] Friday, October 31, 2008 7:27:58 PM 

VERY WELL SAID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I will always come back to their marketing.

I just does not make sense!?!??!!?!?!?!?!?

#1 Release NOS
#2 Release NOS = Title Track (Great Song for avid fans, "pretty" good song for attracking NON Priest fans)
#3 Release WAR video = WTF is this reasoning?, Marginal song compaired to the rest of the album, The video ?,.....Right I don't need to say more.......Certainly NOT gaining many fans this way.......
#4 Don't play entire album on tour (OK TOTALLY understand both pros + cons here , audience may not relate, that's realistic.
#5 Don't play NOS Title track on tour = ???
#6 Record your own Alone Vid, BBBBBBUUUUTTTTT what happened, anything since?
#6A  Release Alone Radio Edit - Is really great in current condition (But understand record company's requirements)
#6B Play Prophecy live without needed Radio edit (Cut out Rob's'lip sync talking in middle & end during live performance)
#7 Cheesy Rob cell phone vids.  Do get me wrong I love ANY Priest Fan back ground info.
#8 What no other Videos?
#9 I have more issue with their marketing, but I will save them until the 2009 tour.

Believe me I know it seems like I am being overly critical, but I want them to be MORE recognized. 
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by GuardianAngel from Friday, October 31, 2008 9:46:56 AM)
[guardian angel] Friday, October 31, 2008 9:46:56 AM 
No. NO..No...Uh...yes. Well first impressions by lots of people I talked to was that Nostradamus was self-indulgent & pompous. Even a terrible review here in the paper, though it was a combination review with Motley Crue's new Saints in Los Angeles. How the two even compare...Well they don't. I used to like Crue more in my teens, but I feel I've long outgrown their drugs, party & pussy themes. Priest is on a whole other level, where I don't think Crue's really evolved that much, and certainly not lyrically. They are who they are. Bless'em. That first impression by the guy writing the article didn't do Priest any favours whatsoever, at the same time RAVING about Crue's SILA. After more in depth listens, the true Nostradamus is shining through as nothing short of a masterpiece. It has a few Vegas-y moments, but this is one of my top 3 works of theirs. It's amazing and I can't get enough of it! I am actually quite happy that they released it in a double CD format and didn't cut it down to one CD, so that you can get MORE. It goes to 11. I also agree that their promotional people SUCK and I can say confidently that I never hear any Nostradamus on the radio and very RARELY ever hear JP at all. Occasionally it'll be You've Got Another Thing Coming. How sad. I will definitely see Nostradamus if they play here or near here, but I agree that it will likely not be as big a draw as their Priest Feast tour. JP are very underrated. I read in a bio about them that they keep "playing to the same 10,000 people" (or whatever the number was) and they don't know how to change that, well...Maybe better promotion and video choices. I don't know. I'll just keep raving about them to friends & family & playing the music subliminally in the background when my boys are in the van enroute to soccer practice or a mall trip! (My 4 year old is a Halford fan already & both ask for Love Bites. Reminds them of the music in Bowser's Castle in SuperMario World!)
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Tuesday, October 21, 2008 12:01:42 AM)
[Rob  Halford88] Saturday, October 25, 2008 11:10:22 PM 
I agree with you Udo. What I did is rip the cds to my hard drive and make a playlist in mediaplayer. That way, I can hear the album from start to finish. This way, you get the full intended effect. I must say that I like it and the few tracks I heard live kick arse.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Udo S. from Friday, October 24, 2008 10:35:19 PM)
[Udo Sapper] Friday, October 24, 2008 10:35:19 PM 
Nostradamus is a metal masterpiece - it is art - it is perfect from the beginning to the end - it puts you back in time - it lets you take part in Nostradamus' life - it is awesome and I am glad that they want to play the album in its entirety.

Of course the next album should be something like projecting Painkiller into the 21st century but for now I'm just happy and the current album never stops to amaze me - it's like a single malt - it gets better with everyday.

[mesniu II] Tuesday, October 21, 2008 6:38:08 PM 
creator of this topic sure abhors nostradamus, too bad. 
though some people have voiced a dislike for expanded judas priest sound. 
they are still metal gods!
[Head banger] Tuesday, October 21, 2008 7:06:54 AM 
well said.  if you like priest, your a fan.  if you dont like anything they do, your not.  if you like a few songs out of the whole carear, then you need work. 
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Monday, October 20, 2008 11:40:32 PM)
[zumpulija] Tuesday, October 21, 2008 12:56:28 AM 
yes, there are women here today and every day
[guidogodoy] Tuesday, October 21, 2008 12:01:42 AM 
Wait just a minute.....are there any women here today?
[Soylentgreen4u] Tuesday, October 21, 2008 12:01:10 AM 
NAH...YOU SHOULD KNOW ME BY NOW...JUST A FINAL SPURT OF MADNESS BEFORE I HIT THE SACK AND LEAVE TOMORROW.......NOW WHERE WAS I?...OH YEAH..............................................................


  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Monday, October 20, 2008 11:50:47 PM)
[guidogodoy] Monday, October 20, 2008 11:50:47 PM 
Why the attack? It was my comment about Two, wasn't it? I'm sorry. I'll pick up your favorite Halford album tomorrow.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Soylentgreen4u from Monday, October 20, 2008 11:48:57 PM)
[Soylentgreen4u] Monday, October 20, 2008 11:48:57 PM 

 COMMIE!!!....FASCIST!!!!!!!!!!...NE'ER DO WELL!!!
UNBELIEVER !!!!...DEATH!!!...DEAAATH!!!......

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Monday, October 20, 2008 11:40:32 PM)
[guidogodoy] Monday, October 20, 2008 11:40:32 PM 
Following up on my bud Hellrider's note, I hope I am NOT labeled a "Priest Nazi" just because I can honestly say that I love this album. So much so that I bought it twice. Super duper deluxe and deluxe. Do I think you or anyone else isn't a "true" Priest fan for not liking it? Hell no. To each his own. ANY Priest fan, be it their past, present or (hopefully) future music is a fan. Plain and simple. Like saying you aren't a Rob Halford fan if you don't like Two (never heard it, myself). Not a Priest fan if you didn't like the Ripper era (HATED it myself). A "traitor" to Priest if you like Halford. Of course, it is absurd. I am a much bigger fan of Halford than Fight. Does it make me any less a Priest fan that I long for the days when Halford (band) played live? I certainly hope not. Although it might (heh) not be physically possible I actually hope to hear new Halford AND Priest music.

All in all, I undertand why those who don't like the album don't like it. I am not one of them. Still, I have little doubt that a full tour playing ALL Nostra would be an absolute disaster. Play a few select venues, though, and I'll be there front and center.

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by metalmaz from Wednesday, October 08, 2008 11:01:16 AM)
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  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by metalmaz from Wednesday, October 08, 2008 11:01:16 AM)
[JayDee  Jepsen] Thursday, October 09, 2008 12:12:25 PM 
Thanks .....tasnam1  for the possitive vote!

I enjoy all the various posts on this JP website.......There are a lot of passionate fans for PRIEST!  Dispite any mistakes we  think the band or their management have made we have to be thankful we have a true Heavy Metal band that keeps crankin out fist-pumping music and concerts! When anyone around the world talks about heavy metal, JUDAS PRIEST is first name that always comes to mind.  And that's a good thing!

[Deep Freeze] Thursday, October 09, 2008 7:47:55 AM 
Why, thank you so very much! I believe my "fan club" was disbanded some time ago and I am fresh out of T-shirts bearing my likeness, however, you are welcome to join me in a taste of common sense anytime you like!! HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Honestly, it is very kind of you to say such nice things, 'child. I appreciate it.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by devils_child from Wednesday, October 08, 2008 11:01:52 PM)
[devils_child] Wednesday, October 08, 2008 11:01:52 PM 
Very well said...  i hang on your every word Freeze.. i admire you alot.  Can i join the Freeze fan club??
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Wednesday, October 08, 2008 3:11:53 PM)
[Maple Syrup] Wednesday, October 08, 2008 9:03:52 PM 
Although NSTRDMS is Very Good, it is no Mindcrime. Also, are people still watching videos (they way they used to) of the new albums when released? Isnt that passe' (sp?) with the whole other realm of video now Youtube etc... I think most fans are looking for the live stuff nowadays anyway. It would be great if they did release something live from the old days and include the new on a DVD. You know what? The old footage I am speaking of, simply does not exist. There is no JP - "unvaulted treasure" of live early stuff (Tours: Rocka Rolla, Sad Wings, Sin after Sin, Killing Machine, British Steel, POE etc...) on video.. Sad isnt it?MSyrup
Edited at: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 9:09:51 PM
[tasnam1] Wednesday, October 08, 2008 8:51:14 PM 

I want to meet you!

You and I think 100% alike.

EVERYTHING you mention in your post is accurate.

I am a 100% Priest fan, but I am tired of this band's management closing doors for this band and not allowing them to get to the level they do deserve.

The poor video choice/song releases have made me sick over the last 22 years (I'm including RID (1 video ????) & Turbo (Reckless??)).

I could go on and on.   I am gad Jaydee at least some one out in thinks like me; I'm not "ALONE"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

P.S.  Don't get me started on AOR releases.....
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by JayDee Jepsen from Wednesday, October 08, 2008 1:54:36 PM)
[Deep Freeze] Wednesday, October 08, 2008 6:01:44 PM 
HA!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don't know..sounds pretty good to me!!!!
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Wednesday, October 08, 2008 5:42:34 PM)
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