Hey, a few rocks for me to jump and I am a happy camper! This year pop said he is thinking of getting a helmet. I am more worried about the music on my iPod! LOL!
Be sure to put that on my tombstone should I not re-appear in a week. "Alas, he loved 'Europe' and we enjoyed his witty repartee on JP.com!" HAAAAAA!!!!!!!
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
I figured. Lake Tahoe and Mammoth are very far from each other. Wouldn't make much sense to lodge in Lake Tahoe and make the long drive to Mammoth. Tahoe is very nice, by the way. I went there in late May a few years ago and there was still snow in the mountains.
guidogodoy wrote:
So I guess Pop changed plans and I am not going to Mammoth! HAAAA!!!
You can tell that at 1am+ I am not terribly involved in this whole situation. I am just hoping the bottle of Port I have stuffed into my skiboot doesn't break in transit.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Pfff...I WISH Davis gets snow. Nope. I live about 2-3 hours from Lake Tahoe...possibly more. Sacramento is smack dab in between...Davis is to the West, Tahoe to the East.
guidogodoy wrote:
Thanks but I am not exactly sure where I am going! LOL!!! I have yet to pack save for my ski gear. Pop got a condo rental by Lake Tahoe and I am hoping he picks me up in Sacramento where said Tía Lola lives. I hear they (you?) are getting a good snowfall today.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
True. Nothing like the original. I had some cotija cheese from Guadalajara during Winter Break and it was HEAVENLY!
I'll be waving at ya from Davis when you get to Mammoth. Hope you have fun!!
guidogodoy wrote:
No. I have never had good Mexican outside of México or the US and even the US is iffy at best. Too much oil.
About off for Northern CA tomorrow morn for a little alpine skiing. While tía Lola makes a great posole, nothing compares to my favorite spot right off of the Paseo de la Reforma or Guanajuato. Then again, I am picky! HAAA!!!!!
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Really? I've just been wondering as to how much a difference there is between Mexican food made here and the Mexican food made overthere in Europe (or if they even make it). Only one way to find out: travel to that continent, of course!
Phantom!! Strat!! Anybody living in or has traveled to Europe ...any answers? (Quoting Message by Becks from Friday, March 12, 2010 10:22:35 PM)
Becks wrote:
The best burrito I have ever had was in London, oh man I could do with one of those right now as for continental Europe, not sure, LOL
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Do they sell Mexican food in Europe?
Edited at: Friday, March 12, 2010 10:33:30 PM
[Becks] Friday, March 12, 2010 11:38:28 PM
Oooh Guido the thrill seeker eh lol, sounds fun! LOL yes a very fitting tombstone inscription haha. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Friday, March 12, 2010 11:35:27 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Hey, a few rocks for me to jump and I am a happy camper! This year pop said he is thinking of getting a helmet. I am more worried about the music on my iPod! LOL!
Be sure to put that on my tombstone should I not re-appear in a week. "Alas, he loved 'Europe' and we enjoyed his witty repartee on JP.com!" HAAAAAA!!!!!!!
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
I figured. Lake Tahoe and Mammoth are very far from each other. Wouldn't make much sense to lodge in Lake Tahoe and make the long drive to Mammoth. Tahoe is very nice, by the way. I went there in late May a few years ago and there was still snow in the mountains.
guidogodoy wrote:
So I guess Pop changed plans and I am not going to Mammoth! HAAAA!!!
You can tell that at 1am+ I am not terribly involved in this whole situation. I am just hoping the bottle of Port I have stuffed into my skiboot doesn't break in transit.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Pfff...I WISH Davis gets snow. Nope. I live about 2-3 hours from Lake Tahoe...possibly more. Sacramento is smack dab in between...Davis is to the West, Tahoe to the East.
guidogodoy wrote:
Thanks but I am not exactly sure where I am going! LOL!!! I have yet to pack save for my ski gear. Pop got a condo rental by Lake Tahoe and I am hoping he picks me up in Sacramento where said Tía Lola lives. I hear they (you?) are getting a good snowfall today.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
True. Nothing like the original. I had some cotija cheese from Guadalajara during Winter Break and it was HEAVENLY!
I'll be waving at ya from Davis when you get to Mammoth. Hope you have fun!!
guidogodoy wrote:
No. I have never had good Mexican outside of México or the US and even the US is iffy at best. Too much oil.
About off for Northern CA tomorrow morn for a little alpine skiing. While tía Lola makes a great posole, nothing compares to my favorite spot right off of the Paseo de la Reforma or Guanajuato. Then again, I am picky! HAAA!!!!!
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Really? I've just been wondering as to how much a difference there is between Mexican food made here and the Mexican food made overthere in Europe (or if they even make it). Only one way to find out: travel to that continent, of course!
Phantom!! Strat!! Anybody living in or has traveled to Europe ...any answers? (Quoting Message by Becks from Friday, March 12, 2010 10:22:35 PM)
Becks wrote:
The best burrito I have ever had was in London, oh man I could do with one of those right now as for continental Europe, not sure, LOL
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Do they sell Mexican food in Europe?
Edited at: Friday, March 12, 2010 10:33:30 PM
[guidogodoy] Friday, March 12, 2010 11:35:27 PM
Hey, a few rocks for me to jump and I am a happy camper! This year pop said he is thinking of getting a helmet. I am more worried about the music on my iPod! LOL!
Be sure to put that on my tombstone should I not re-appear in a week. "Alas, he loved 'Europe' and we enjoyed his witty repartee on JP.com!" HAAAAAA!!!!!!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Friday, March 12, 2010 11:25:51 PM)
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
I figured. Lake Tahoe and Mammoth are very far from each other. Wouldn't make much sense to lodge in Lake Tahoe and make the long drive to Mammoth. Tahoe is very nice, by the way. I went there in late May a few years ago and there was still snow in the mountains.
guidogodoy wrote:
So I guess Pop changed plans and I am not going to Mammoth! HAAAA!!!
You can tell that at 1am+ I am not terribly involved in this whole situation. I am just hoping the bottle of Port I have stuffed into my skiboot doesn't break in transit.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Pfff...I WISH Davis gets snow. Nope. I live about 2-3 hours from Lake Tahoe...possibly more. Sacramento is smack dab in between...Davis is to the West, Tahoe to the East.
guidogodoy wrote:
Thanks but I am not exactly sure where I am going! LOL!!! I have yet to pack save for my ski gear. Pop got a condo rental by Lake Tahoe and I am hoping he picks me up in Sacramento where said Tía Lola lives. I hear they (you?) are getting a good snowfall today.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
True. Nothing like the original. I had some cotija cheese from Guadalajara during Winter Break and it was HEAVENLY!
I'll be waving at ya from Davis when you get to Mammoth. Hope you have fun!!
guidogodoy wrote:
No. I have never had good Mexican outside of México or the US and even the US is iffy at best. Too much oil.
About off for Northern CA tomorrow morn for a little alpine skiing. While tía Lola makes a great posole, nothing compares to my favorite spot right off of the Paseo de la Reforma or Guanajuato. Then again, I am picky! HAAA!!!!!
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Really? I've just been wondering as to how much a difference there is between Mexican food made here and the Mexican food made overthere in Europe (or if they even make it). Only one way to find out: travel to that continent, of course!
Phantom!! Strat!! Anybody living in or has traveled to Europe ...any answers? (Quoting Message by Becks from Friday, March 12, 2010 10:22:35 PM)
Becks wrote:
The best burrito I have ever had was in London, oh man I could do with one of those right now as for continental Europe, not sure, LOL
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Do they sell Mexican food in Europe?
Edited at: Friday, March 12, 2010 10:33:30 PM
[Vaillant 3.0] Friday, March 12, 2010 11:25:51 PM
I figured. Lake Tahoe and Mammoth are very far from each other. Wouldn't make much sense to lodge in Lake Tahoe and make the long drive to Mammoth. Tahoe is very nice, by the way. I went there in late May a few years ago and there was still snow in the mountains. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Friday, March 12, 2010 11:18:16 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
So I guess Pop changed plans and I am not going to Mammoth! HAAAA!!!
You can tell that at 1am+ I am not terribly involved in this whole situation. I am just hoping the bottle of Port I have stuffed into my skiboot doesn't break in transit.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Pfff...I WISH Davis gets snow. Nope. I live about 2-3 hours from Lake Tahoe...possibly more. Sacramento is smack dab in between...Davis is to the West, Tahoe to the East.
guidogodoy wrote:
Thanks but I am not exactly sure where I am going! LOL!!! I have yet to pack save for my ski gear. Pop got a condo rental by Lake Tahoe and I am hoping he picks me up in Sacramento where said Tía Lola lives. I hear they (you?) are getting a good snowfall today.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
True. Nothing like the original. I had some cotija cheese from Guadalajara during Winter Break and it was HEAVENLY!
I'll be waving at ya from Davis when you get to Mammoth. Hope you have fun!!
guidogodoy wrote:
No. I have never had good Mexican outside of México or the US and even the US is iffy at best. Too much oil.
About off for Northern CA tomorrow morn for a little alpine skiing. While tía Lola makes a great posole, nothing compares to my favorite spot right off of the Paseo de la Reforma or Guanajuato. Then again, I am picky! HAAA!!!!!
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Really? I've just been wondering as to how much a difference there is between Mexican food made here and the Mexican food made overthere in Europe (or if they even make it). Only one way to find out: travel to that continent, of course!
Phantom!! Strat!! Anybody living in or has traveled to Europe ...any answers? (Quoting Message by Becks from Friday, March 12, 2010 10:22:35 PM)
Becks wrote:
The best burrito I have ever had was in London, oh man I could do with one of those right now as for continental Europe, not sure, LOL
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Do they sell Mexican food in Europe?
Edited at: Friday, March 12, 2010 10:33:30 PM
[guidogodoy] Friday, March 12, 2010 11:18:16 PM
So I guess Pop changed plans and I am not going to Mammoth! HAAAA!!!
You can tell that at 1am+ I am not terribly involved in this whole situation. I am just hoping the bottle of Port I have stuffed into my skiboot doesn't break in transit. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Friday, March 12, 2010 11:15:50 PM)
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Pfff...I WISH Davis gets snow. Nope. I live about 2-3 hours from Lake Tahoe...possibly more. Sacramento is smack dab in between...Davis is to the West, Tahoe to the East.
guidogodoy wrote:
Thanks but I am not exactly sure where I am going! LOL!!! I have yet to pack save for my ski gear. Pop got a condo rental by Lake Tahoe and I am hoping he picks me up in Sacramento where said Tía Lola lives. I hear they (you?) are getting a good snowfall today.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
True. Nothing like the original. I had some cotija cheese from Guadalajara during Winter Break and it was HEAVENLY!
I'll be waving at ya from Davis when you get to Mammoth. Hope you have fun!!
guidogodoy wrote:
No. I have never had good Mexican outside of México or the US and even the US is iffy at best. Too much oil.
About off for Northern CA tomorrow morn for a little alpine skiing. While tía Lola makes a great posole, nothing compares to my favorite spot right off of the Paseo de la Reforma or Guanajuato. Then again, I am picky! HAAA!!!!!
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Really? I've just been wondering as to how much a difference there is between Mexican food made here and the Mexican food made overthere in Europe (or if they even make it). Only one way to find out: travel to that continent, of course!
Phantom!! Strat!! Anybody living in or has traveled to Europe ...any answers? (Quoting Message by Becks from Friday, March 12, 2010 10:22:35 PM)
Becks wrote:
The best burrito I have ever had was in London, oh man I could do with one of those right now as for continental Europe, not sure, LOL
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Do they sell Mexican food in Europe?
Edited at: Friday, March 12, 2010 10:33:30 PM
[Vaillant 3.0] Friday, March 12, 2010 11:15:50 PM
Pfff...I WISH Davis gets snow. Nope. I live about 2-3 hours from Lake Tahoe...possibly more. Sacramento is smack dab in between...Davis is to the West, Tahoe to the East. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Friday, March 12, 2010 11:12:44 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Thanks but I am not exactly sure where I am going! LOL!!! I have yet to pack save for my ski gear. Pop got a condo rental by Lake Tahoe and I am hoping he picks me up in Sacramento where said Tía Lola lives. I hear they (you?) are getting a good snowfall today.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
True. Nothing like the original. I had some cotija cheese from Guadalajara during Winter Break and it was HEAVENLY!
I'll be waving at ya from Davis when you get to Mammoth. Hope you have fun!!
guidogodoy wrote:
No. I have never had good Mexican outside of México or the US and even the US is iffy at best. Too much oil.
About off for Northern CA tomorrow morn for a little alpine skiing. While tía Lola makes a great posole, nothing compares to my favorite spot right off of the Paseo de la Reforma or Guanajuato. Then again, I am picky! HAAA!!!!!
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Really? I've just been wondering as to how much a difference there is between Mexican food made here and the Mexican food made overthere in Europe (or if they even make it). Only one way to find out: travel to that continent, of course!
Phantom!! Strat!! Anybody living in or has traveled to Europe ...any answers? (Quoting Message by Becks from Friday, March 12, 2010 10:22:35 PM)
Becks wrote:
The best burrito I have ever had was in London, oh man I could do with one of those right now as for continental Europe, not sure, LOL
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Do they sell Mexican food in Europe?
Edited at: Friday, March 12, 2010 10:33:30 PM
[guidogodoy] Friday, March 12, 2010 11:12:44 PM
Thanks but I am not exactly sure where I am going! LOL!!! I have yet to pack save for my ski gear. Pop got a condo rental by Lake Tahoe and I am hoping he picks me up in Sacramento where said Tía Lola lives. I hear they (you?) are getting a good snowfall today. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Friday, March 12, 2010 11:09:28 PM)
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
True. Nothing like the original. I had some cotija cheese from Guadalajara during Winter Break and it was HEAVENLY!
I'll be waving at ya from Davis when you get to Mammoth. Hope you have fun!!
guidogodoy wrote:
No. I have never had good Mexican outside of México or the US and even the US is iffy at best. Too much oil.
About off for Northern CA tomorrow morn for a little alpine skiing. While tía Lola makes a great posole, nothing compares to my favorite spot right off of the Paseo de la Reforma or Guanajuato. Then again, I am picky! HAAA!!!!!
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Really? I've just been wondering as to how much a difference there is between Mexican food made here and the Mexican food made overthere in Europe (or if they even make it). Only one way to find out: travel to that continent, of course!
Phantom!! Strat!! Anybody living in or has traveled to Europe ...any answers? (Quoting Message by Becks from Friday, March 12, 2010 10:22:35 PM)
Becks wrote:
The best burrito I have ever had was in London, oh man I could do with one of those right now as for continental Europe, not sure, LOL
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Do they sell Mexican food in Europe?
Edited at: Friday, March 12, 2010 10:33:30 PM
[Vaillant 3.0] Friday, March 12, 2010 11:09:28 PM
True. Nothing like the original. I had some cotija cheese from Guadalajara during Winter Break and it was HEAVENLY!
I'll be waving at ya from Davis when you get to Mammoth. Hope you have fun!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Friday, March 12, 2010 11:02:41 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
No. I have never had good Mexican outside of México or the US and even the US is iffy at best. Too much oil.
About off for Northern CA tomorrow morn for a little alpine skiing. While tía Lola makes a great posole, nothing compares to my favorite spot right off of the Paseo de la Reforma or Guanajuato. Then again, I am picky! HAAA!!!!!
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Really? I've just been wondering as to how much a difference there is between Mexican food made here and the Mexican food made overthere in Europe (or if they even make it). Only one way to find out: travel to that continent, of course!
Phantom!! Strat!! Anybody living in or has traveled to Europe ...any answers? (Quoting Message by Becks from Friday, March 12, 2010 10:22:35 PM)
Becks wrote:
The best burrito I have ever had was in London, oh man I could do with one of those right now as for continental Europe, not sure, LOL
Paseo de la Reforma is one of the biggest roads in México, D.F. and Guanajuato is both the state and the city were I spent a lot of my childhood. If you ever get to either, I'll have really good places for you to eat.
Becks wrote:
Ok I'm going to have to crack out googlemaps to see exactly where on the Mexican map those places are LOL!
guidogodoy wrote:
No. I have never had good Mexican outside of México or the US and even the US is iffy at best. Too much oil.
About off for Northern CA tomorrow morn for a little alpine skiing. While tía Lola makes a great posole, nothing compares to my favorite spot right off of the Paseo de la Reforma or Guanajuato. Then again, I am picky! HAAA!!!!!
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Really? I've just been wondering as to how much a difference there is between Mexican food made here and the Mexican food made overthere in Europe (or if they even make it). Only one way to find out: travel to that continent, of course!
Phantom!! Strat!! Anybody living in or has traveled to Europe ...any answers? (Quoting Message by Becks from Friday, March 12, 2010 10:22:35 PM)
Becks wrote:
The best burrito I have ever had was in London, oh man I could do with one of those right now as for continental Europe, not sure, LOL
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Do they sell Mexican food in Europe?
Edited at: Friday, March 12, 2010 10:33:30 PM
[guidogodoy] Friday, March 12, 2010 11:06:51 PM
Paseo de la Reforma is one of the biggest roads in México, D.F. and Guanajuato is both the state and the city were I spent a lot of my childhood. If you ever get to either, I'll have really good places for you to eat. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Becks from Friday, March 12, 2010 11:04:52 PM)
Becks wrote:
Ok I'm going to have to crack out googlemaps to see exactly where on the Mexican map those places are LOL!
guidogodoy wrote:
No. I have never had good Mexican outside of México or the US and even the US is iffy at best. Too much oil.
About off for Northern CA tomorrow morn for a little alpine skiing. While tía Lola makes a great posole, nothing compares to my favorite spot right off of the Paseo de la Reforma or Guanajuato. Then again, I am picky! HAAA!!!!!
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Really? I've just been wondering as to how much a difference there is between Mexican food made here and the Mexican food made overthere in Europe (or if they even make it). Only one way to find out: travel to that continent, of course!
Phantom!! Strat!! Anybody living in or has traveled to Europe ...any answers? (Quoting Message by Becks from Friday, March 12, 2010 10:22:35 PM)
Becks wrote:
The best burrito I have ever had was in London, oh man I could do with one of those right now as for continental Europe, not sure, LOL
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Do they sell Mexican food in Europe?
Edited at: Friday, March 12, 2010 10:33:30 PM
[Becks] Friday, March 12, 2010 11:04:52 PM
Ok I'm going to have to crack out googlemaps to see exactly where on the Mexican map those places are LOL! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Friday, March 12, 2010 11:02:41 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
No. I have never had good Mexican outside of México or the US and even the US is iffy at best. Too much oil.
About off for Northern CA tomorrow morn for a little alpine skiing. While tía Lola makes a great posole, nothing compares to my favorite spot right off of the Paseo de la Reforma or Guanajuato. Then again, I am picky! HAAA!!!!!
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Really? I've just been wondering as to how much a difference there is between Mexican food made here and the Mexican food made overthere in Europe (or if they even make it). Only one way to find out: travel to that continent, of course!
Phantom!! Strat!! Anybody living in or has traveled to Europe ...any answers? (Quoting Message by Becks from Friday, March 12, 2010 10:22:35 PM)
Becks wrote:
The best burrito I have ever had was in London, oh man I could do with one of those right now as for continental Europe, not sure, LOL
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Do they sell Mexican food in Europe?
Edited at: Friday, March 12, 2010 10:33:30 PM
[guidogodoy] Friday, March 12, 2010 11:02:41 PM
No. I have never had good Mexican outside of México or the US and even the US is iffy at best. Too much oil.
About off for Northern CA tomorrow morn for a little alpine skiing. While tía Lola makes a great posole, nothing compares to my favorite spot right off of the Paseo de la Reforma or Guanajuato. Then again, I am picky! HAAA!!!!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Friday, March 12, 2010 10:31:03 PM)
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Really? I've just been wondering as to how much a difference there is between Mexican food made here and the Mexican food made overthere in Europe (or if they even make it). Only one way to find out: travel to that continent, of course!
Phantom!! Strat!! Anybody living in or has traveled to Europe ...any answers? (Quoting Message by Becks from Friday, March 12, 2010 10:22:35 PM)
Becks wrote:
The best burrito I have ever had was in London, oh man I could do with one of those right now as for continental Europe, not sure, LOL
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Do they sell Mexican food in Europe?
Edited at: Friday, March 12, 2010 10:33:30 PM
[Becks] Friday, March 12, 2010 10:46:47 PM
California is definitely on the to do list mmmm I'm hungry now LOL! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Friday, March 12, 2010 10:45:07 PM)
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Come to Cali. All the best Mexican food you can possibly eat will be right there (except for Taco Bell...stay away from there if you only want the most authentic stuff). If you're planning to go to SoCal, look for a place called Tacos México. They've got the greatest tacos EVER!! Or you can visit my mom...she makes great Mexican food as well. (Quoting Message by Becks from Friday, March 12, 2010 10:35:12 PM)
Becks wrote:
Yep, it was the best burrito ever LOL! At a place called Benitos Hat Mexican Kitchen, oh man it was devine. I haven't eaten Mexican food in the US (or Mexico) for many years, but it is my intention, hopefully next year, to travel back to the USA and eat plenty of mexican food in the process LOL!
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Really? I've just been wondering as to how much a difference there is between Mexican food made here and the Mexican food made overthere in Europe (or if they even make it). Only one way to find out: travel to that continent, of course!
Phantom!! Strat!! Anybody living in or has traveled to Europe ...any answers? (Quoting Message by Becks from Friday, March 12, 2010 10:22:35 PM)
Becks wrote:
The best burrito I have ever had was in London, oh man I could do with one of those right now as for continental Europe, not sure, LOL
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Do they sell Mexican food in Europe?
Edited at: Friday, March 12, 2010 10:33:30 PM
Edited at: Friday, March 12, 2010 10:45:33 PM
[Vaillant 3.0] Friday, March 12, 2010 10:45:07 PM
Come to Cali. All the best Mexican food you can possibly eat will be right there (except for Taco Bell...stay away from there if you only want the most authentic stuff). If you're planning to go to SoCal, look for a place called Tacos México. They've got the greatest tacos EVER!! Or you can visit my mom...she makes great Mexican food as well. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Becks from Friday, March 12, 2010 10:35:12 PM)
Becks wrote:
Yep, it was the best burrito ever LOL! At a place called Benitos Hat Mexican Kitchen, oh man it was devine. I haven't eaten Mexican food in the US (or Mexico) for many years, but it is my intention, hopefully next year, to travel back to the USA and eat plenty of mexican food in the process LOL!
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Really? I've just been wondering as to how much a difference there is between Mexican food made here and the Mexican food made overthere in Europe (or if they even make it). Only one way to find out: travel to that continent, of course!
Phantom!! Strat!! Anybody living in or has traveled to Europe ...any answers? (Quoting Message by Becks from Friday, March 12, 2010 10:22:35 PM)
Becks wrote:
The best burrito I have ever had was in London, oh man I could do with one of those right now as for continental Europe, not sure, LOL
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Do they sell Mexican food in Europe?
Edited at: Friday, March 12, 2010 10:33:30 PM
Edited at: Friday, March 12, 2010 10:45:33 PM
[Becks] Friday, March 12, 2010 10:35:12 PM
Yep, it was the best burrito ever LOL! At a place called Benitos Hat Mexican Kitchen, oh man it was devine. I haven't eaten Mexican food in the US (or Mexico) for many years, but it is my intention, hopefully next year, to travel back to the USA and eat plenty of mexican food in the process LOL! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Friday, March 12, 2010 10:31:03 PM)
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Really? I've just been wondering as to how much a difference there is between Mexican food made here and the Mexican food made overthere in Europe (or if they even make it). Only one way to find out: travel to that continent, of course!
Phantom!! Strat!! Anybody living in or has traveled to Europe ...any answers? (Quoting Message by Becks from Friday, March 12, 2010 10:22:35 PM)
Becks wrote:
The best burrito I have ever had was in London, oh man I could do with one of those right now as for continental Europe, not sure, LOL
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Do they sell Mexican food in Europe?
Edited at: Friday, March 12, 2010 10:33:30 PM
[Vaillant 3.0] Friday, March 12, 2010 10:31:03 PM
Really? I've just been wondering as to how much a difference there is between Mexican food made here and the Mexican food made overthere in Europe (or if they even make it). Only one way to find out: travel to that continent, of course!
Phantom!! Strat!! Anybody living in or has traveled to Europe ...any answers? [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Becks from Friday, March 12, 2010 10:22:35 PM)
Becks wrote:
The best burrito I have ever had was in London, oh man I could do with one of those right now as for continental Europe, not sure, LOL
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Do they sell Mexican food in Europe?
Edited at: Friday, March 12, 2010 10:33:30 PM
[Becks] Friday, March 12, 2010 10:22:35 PM
The best burrito I have ever had was in London, oh man I could do with one of those right now as for continental Europe, not sure, LOL [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Friday, March 12, 2010 10:19:26 PM)
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Do they sell Mexican food in Europe?
[Vaillant 3.0] Friday, March 12, 2010 10:19:26 PM
Do they sell Mexican food in Europe?
[Budred] Friday, March 12, 2010 6:14:33 PM
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[SkyRideR] Thursday, March 11, 2010 6:18:28 PM
Lindsey who???
lindsey buckingham???
[Becks] Thursday, March 11, 2010 5:52:00 PM
You won't be the only one who has palpitations Hellrider LOL! I'll probably have a heart attack haha [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by hellrider 31038 from Thursday, March 11, 2010 5:40:15 PM)
hellrider 31038 wrote:
hey Becks yeah first thing i look for when i come here..hopefully we do not go into cardiac arrest when they do POST IT.lol.I SWEAR MY HEART IS GOING TO ATTLEAST SKIP A FEW BEATS.
Becks wrote:
That is a question I want the answer to as well Hellrider
hellrider 31038 wrote:
how much longer do we have to wait for news for THE NEXT JUDAS PRIEST HEAVY MEEETTT TTTAAALLL MONSTER.AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
[hellrider 31038] Thursday, March 11, 2010 5:40:15 PM
hey Becks yeah first thing i look for when i come here..hopefully we do not go into cardiac arrest when they do POST IT.lol.I SWEAR MY HEART IS GOING TO ATTLEAST SKIP A FEW BEATS. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Becks from Thursday, March 11, 2010 5:35:29 PM)
Becks wrote:
That is a question I want the answer to as well Hellrider
hellrider 31038 wrote:
how much longer do we have to wait for news for THE NEXT JUDAS PRIEST HEAVY MEEETTT TTTAAALLL MONSTER.AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
[Becks] Thursday, March 11, 2010 5:35:29 PM
That is a question I want the answer to as well Hellrider [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by hellrider 31038 from Thursday, March 11, 2010 4:35:56 PM)
hellrider 31038 wrote:
how much longer do we have to wait for news for THE NEXT JUDAS PRIEST HEAVY MEEETTT TTTAAALLL MONSTER.AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
[hellrider 31038] Thursday, March 11, 2010 4:35:56 PM
how much longer do we have to wait for news for THE NEXT JUDAS PRIEST HEAVY MEEETTT TTTAAALLL MONSTER.AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
[Budred] Wednesday, March 10, 2010 6:23:33 AM
Edited at: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 6:37:04 AM
[hellrider 31038] Friday, March 05, 2010 2:49:33 PM
I DONT KNOW IF I WILL BE ABLE TO WAIT TILL I GET HOME Vailant.LOL.THIS IS GOING TO BE QUITE THE MOMENT HEY.HAVING IT IN OUR HANDS. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Wednesday, March 03, 2010 11:58:30 PM)
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Wait 'til you get home to freakin' CRANK IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
hellrider 31038 wrote:
HHHHHHHMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM should i take a getto blaster with me to hmv the day the next PRIEST BEAST HEAVY MEEETTT TTTAAALLL MONSTER is reliesed.or just wait untill i get home to TOTALLY FUC?EN CRANK IT.AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH .
[Head banger] Friday, March 05, 2010 1:27:11 PM
you missed the big honda recall. next I call mazda., [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Soylentgreen4u a.k.a. theWOLFMAN from Friday, March 05, 2010 7:10:03 AM)
Soylentgreen4u a.k.a. theWOLFMAN wrote:
FIRST TOYOTA...THEN GM...NOW NISSAN....NEXXXXXXT???
[Soylentgreen4u] Friday, March 05, 2010 7:10:03 AM
FIRST TOYOTA...THEN GM...NOW NISSAN....NEXXXXXXT???
[Budred] Friday, March 05, 2010 4:59:55 AM
Hmmmmm...
So O.J.'s (acquittal)suit isn't going to the Smithsonian Institute.
I guess the question should be...
"WHY WERE THEY EVEN CONSIDERING IT?"
Edited at: Friday, March 05, 2010 5:00:47 AM
[Vaillant 3.0] Wednesday, March 03, 2010 11:58:30 PM
Wait 'til you get home to freakin' CRANK IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by hellrider 31038 from Wednesday, March 03, 2010 9:23:27 PM)
hellrider 31038 wrote:
HHHHHHHMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM should i take a getto blaster with me to hmv the day the next PRIEST BEAST HEAVY MEEETTT TTTAAALLL MONSTER is reliesed.or just wait untill i get home to TOTALLY FUC?EN CRANK IT.AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH .
[hellrider 31038] Wednesday, March 03, 2010 9:23:27 PM
HHHHHHHMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM should i take a getto blaster with me to hmv the day the next PRIEST BEAST HEAVY MEEETTT TTTAAALLL MONSTER is reliesed.or just wait untill i get home to TOTALLY FUC?EN CRANK IT.AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH .
[Budred] Wednesday, March 03, 2010 4:02:12 AM
I never mentioned tolerating bad behavior. The lack of being able to tolerate someone
usually causes this kind of behavior. Let me stress I'm not a peace freak. I know the world
will never get along. If I can eliminate the hate from my world then that's all I really care about.
I didn't mean to cause anger with this post.
Why is this an issue today? I tolerate a whole bunch of stuff. But if you think I will tollerate someone calling me names like "whore" etc, you are dead wrong. I will not. I also will not tollerate someone using abusive language and connotations towards my friends, speaking demeaning to someone, nor insulting this entire board. That aside, I'm tollerant.
Budred wrote:
Hmmmmm...
Other than a select few does anyone actually get along on this site?
My favorite word is tolerance. I believe it to be the key to peace.
If we could all tolerate one another the world would be such a happier place.
I hate blacks.
I hate muslims.
I hate gays.
I hate whitey.
I hate anything other than metal.
I hate... etc. etc.
(now try this)
I can tolerate blacks.
I can tolerate muslims.
I can tolerate gays.
I can tolerate whitey.
I can tolerate all forms of music.
I can tolerate... etc. etc.
When you say it the second way the hate goes away.
Try it. Even practice it. You'll be better for it.
PEACE!
Edited at: Friday, February 26, 2010 11:18:04 AM Edited at: Friday, February 26, 2010 11:20:51 AM
[spapad] Tuesday, March 02, 2010 5:54:07 PM
Why is this an issue today? I tolerate a whole bunch of stuff. But if you think I will tollerate someone calling me names like "whore" etc, you are dead wrong. I will not. I also will not tollerate someone using abusive language and connotations towards my friends, speaking demeaning to someone, nor insulting this entire board. That aside, I'm tollerant. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Budred from Friday, February 26, 2010 11:16:02 AM)
Budred wrote:
Hmmmmm...
Other than a select few does anyone actually get along on this site?
My favorite word is tolerance. I believe it to be the key to peace.
If we could all tolerate one another the world would be such a happier place.
I hate blacks.
I hate muslims.
I hate gays.
I hate whitey.
I hate anything other than metal.
I hate... etc. etc.
(now try this)
I can tolerate blacks.
I can tolerate muslims.
I can tolerate gays.
I can tolerate whitey.
I can tolerate all forms of music.
I can tolerate... etc. etc.
When you say it the second way the hate goes away.
Try it. Even practice it. You'll be better for it.
PEACE!
Edited at: Friday, February 26, 2010 11:18:04 AM Edited at: Friday, February 26, 2010 11:20:51 AM
[hellrider 31038] Tuesday, March 02, 2010 5:44:36 PM
who was that guy that honked his horn and waved at me yesterday.
[Head banger] Friday, February 26, 2010 12:41:51 PM
Hmmmmm...
Other than a select few does anyone actually get along on this site?
My favorite word is tolerance. I believe it to be the key to peace.
If we could all tolerate one another the world would be such a happier place.
I hate blacks.
I hate muslims.
I hate gays.
I hate whitey.
I hate anything other than metal.
I hate... etc. etc.
(now try this)
I can tolerate blacks.
I can tolerate muslims.
I can tolerate gays.
I can tolerate whitey.
I can tolerate all forms of music.
I can tolerate... etc. etc.
When you say it the second way the hate goes away.
Try it. Even practice it. You'll be better for it.
PEACE!
Edited at: Friday, February 26, 2010 11:18:04 AM Edited at: Friday, February 26, 2010 11:20:51 AM
[guidogodoy] Friday, February 26, 2010 12:27:06 PM
What? You haven't learned the slogan of our beloved site yet?
"God loves a workin' man, don't trust whitey, see a doctor and get rid of it."
Hmmmmm...
Other than a select few does anyone actually get along on this site?
My favorite word is tolerance. I believe it to be the key to peace.
If we could all tolerate one another the world would be such a happier place.
I hate blacks.
I hate muslims.
I hate gays.
I hate whitey.
I hate anything other than metal.
I hate... etc. etc.
(now try this)
I can tolerate blacks.
I can tolerate muslims.
I can tolerate gays.
I can tolerate whitey.
I can tolerate all forms of music.
I can tolerate... etc. etc.
When you say it the second way the hate goes away.
Try it. Even practice it. You'll be better for it.
PEACE!
Edited at: Friday, February 26, 2010 11:18:04 AM Edited at: Friday, February 26, 2010 11:20:51 AM
[Deep Freeze] Friday, February 26, 2010 11:51:57 AM
It's the thought that counts............... HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Budred from Friday, February 26, 2010 11:49:59 AM)
Budred wrote:
I can't force, I can only suggest.(LOL)
Deep Freeze wrote:
It's much easier for me to simply dislike everyone.....HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I like you, Bud! You have purpose in your life. You seek meaning. In any event, I am far too impatient to "practice" tolerance. HAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Budred wrote:
Hmmmmm...
Other than a select few does anyone actually get along on this site?
My favorite word is tolerance. I believe it to be the key to peace.
If we could all tolerate one another the world would be such a happier place.
I hate blacks.
I hate muslims.
I hate gays.
I hate whitey.
I hate anything other than metal.
I hate... etc. etc.
(now try this)
I can tolerate blacks.
I can tolerate muslims.
I can tolerate gays.
I can tolerate whitey.
I can tolerate all forms of music.
I can tolerate... etc. etc.
When you say it the second way the hate goes away.
Try it. Even practice it. You'll be better for it.
PEACE!
Edited at: Friday, February 26, 2010 11:18:04 AM Edited at: Friday, February 26, 2010 11:20:51 AM
[Budred] Friday, February 26, 2010 11:49:59 AM
I can't force, I can only suggest.(LOL) [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Friday, February 26, 2010 11:32:24 AM)
Deep Freeze wrote:
It's much easier for me to simply dislike everyone.....HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I like you, Bud! You have purpose in your life. You seek meaning. In any event, I am far too impatient to "practice" tolerance. HAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Budred wrote:
Hmmmmm...
Other than a select few does anyone actually get along on this site?
My favorite word is tolerance. I believe it to be the key to peace.
If we could all tolerate one another the world would be such a happier place.
I hate blacks.
I hate muslims.
I hate gays.
I hate whitey.
I hate anything other than metal.
I hate... etc. etc.
(now try this)
I can tolerate blacks.
I can tolerate muslims.
I can tolerate gays.
I can tolerate whitey.
I can tolerate all forms of music.
I can tolerate... etc. etc.
When you say it the second way the hate goes away.
Try it. Even practice it. You'll be better for it.
PEACE!
Edited at: Friday, February 26, 2010 11:18:04 AM Edited at: Friday, February 26, 2010 11:20:51 AM
[Deep Freeze] Friday, February 26, 2010 11:32:24 AM
It's much easier for me to simply dislike everyone.....HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I like you, Bud! You have purpose in your life. You seek meaning. In any event, I am far too impatient to "practice" tolerance. HAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Budred from Friday, February 26, 2010 11:16:02 AM)
Budred wrote:
Hmmmmm...
Other than a select few does anyone actually get along on this site?
My favorite word is tolerance. I believe it to be the key to peace.
If we could all tolerate one another the world would be such a happier place.
I hate blacks.
I hate muslims.
I hate gays.
I hate whitey.
I hate anything other than metal.
I hate... etc. etc.
(now try this)
I can tolerate blacks.
I can tolerate muslims.
I can tolerate gays.
I can tolerate whitey.
I can tolerate all forms of music.
I can tolerate... etc. etc.
When you say it the second way the hate goes away.
Try it. Even practice it. You'll be better for it.
PEACE!
Edited at: Friday, February 26, 2010 11:18:04 AM Edited at: Friday, February 26, 2010 11:20:51 AM
[Budred] Friday, February 26, 2010 11:16:02 AM
Hmmmmm...
Other than a select few does anyone actually get along on this site?
My favorite word is tolerance. I believe it to be the key to peace.
If we could all tolerate one another the world would be such a happier place.
I hate blacks.
I hate muslims.
I hate gays.
I hate whitey.
I hate anything other than metal.
I hate... etc. etc.
(now try this)
I can tolerate blacks.
I can tolerate muslims.
I can tolerate gays.
I can tolerate whitey.
I can tolerate all forms of music.
I can tolerate... etc. etc.
When you say it the second way the hate goes away.
Try it. Even practice it. You'll be better for it.
PEACE!
Edited at: Friday, February 26, 2010 11:18:04 AM Edited at: Friday, February 26, 2010 11:20:51 AM
[hellrider 31038] Sunday, February 21, 2010 12:37:55 PM
IS HEAVY MEEETTT TTTAAALLLL BEING HIJACKED
[Budred] Saturday, February 20, 2010 5:39:00 PM
Hmmmmm...
If zero is the sum of nothing then is it technically a number?
It doesn't count.
It doesn't add or subtract.
It doesn't equal anything.
So is it actually a number?
WOW, am I freakin' bored(boring) or what?
[hellrider 31038] Friday, February 19, 2010 9:26:30 PM
HMMMMMMMMM when will we here more plans for 2010 from the PRIEST .NEXT PRIEST METAL MONSTER AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.BRING IT ON..
[Head banger] Friday, February 19, 2010 9:05:48 AM
the ignores are not relevant. it used to be actualy quicker than 30 days, give it a day or 2 and see what happens? [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Budred from Friday, February 19, 2010 9:02:28 AM)
Budred wrote:
Hmmmmm...
I thought you got bumped up automatically after 30 days?
My initial appearance left a little to be desired but I've chilled
since. No new threads, No antagonizing posts. I've been ignored
3 times. Is that why? Any clues on how long I must wait?
[Budred] Friday, February 19, 2010 9:02:28 AM
Hmmmmm...
I thought you got bumped up automatically after 30 days?
My initial appearance left a little to be desired but I've chilled
since. No new threads, No antagonizing posts. I've been ignored
3 times. Is that why? Any clues on how long I must wait?
[guidogodoy] Wednesday, February 10, 2010 6:59:48 PM
Oh! That IS terribly sad news. I was a big fan of his as well. R.I.P. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Wednesday, February 10, 2010 9:11:00 AM)
Deep Freeze wrote:
Not sure how many of you follow the television show "Deadliest Catch" but captain Phil Harris of the Cornelia Marie has passed away. Could not get much information just yet but, apparently, he suffered a massive stroke last month and died yesterday.
I am a fan of the show and feel a sense of loss. Those that are familiar with this program will recall that Harris lived a pretty unhealthy life. He chain smoked, did not eat properly and was under tremendous stress. His sons work on the boat with him and it was a "family" business catching crab. I always considered Harris my "favorite" on the show. He was quite a character. I am pretty sure he was almost my age but I would like to believe I look a bit better than he did...HA!!!!!!
A sad day for Discovery Channel and us fans. R.I.P. Phil.
[Deep Freeze] Wednesday, February 10, 2010 3:54:55 PM
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Well, not much we can do about that other than continue to hope. I have no idea if they are even in the studio right now..?? Last I heard, they were taking a break from the tour. I have not heard anything reliable about recording.
Yes, life is VERY short my friend. Can't take it for granted.
Yeah he didn't take care of himself thats for sure,and yeah I think that with all the danger and lifestyle these guys endure on a daily basis they get caught up with that instead of thinking about thier personal health. Phil was my favorite member too,he was hard core and there was something about his personality that was interesting to watch. Life is shorter than we think and thats why I want a new album by Judas Priest!!!!!
Deep Freeze wrote:
Yes, I remember that episode as well. It turned out that he had a blood clot in his lung! They ended up filming him at the hospital for a few episodes and then he missed almost an entire season because doctors would not allow him on a boat! While in that hospital, he continued to sneak outside for a smoke!! HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The guy was your classic "old salt". Refused to change his ways and thought he was invincible. I suppose it would be easy to feel that way if one spent so much time in the Bearing Sea doing what these guys do. 40-50 foot waves, winds at or near hurricane speed, danger and injury part of everyday life. I guess there comes a point where you have survived so much danger you think you cannot die?
Most everyone that I know likes captain Sig on the Northwestern. The Princess does. He's cool but I always felt a connection with Phil Harris. I have no idea why, other than I do not take proper care of myself, either! HA!!!!!!!! I don't drink or smoke but that doesn't guarantee anything. Anyway, I will miss the guy. He died during filming so it will be interesting to see how, if at all, they work it into this season.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
That is terrible news Freeze,I have seen the show a few different times. I saw one episode where he was tossed across his room from waves or something and he got the wind knocked out of him,but I think it was a punctured lung or something of the sort...and the first thing he did was light up a smoke and while the smoke was hanging out of his mouth he was complaining that he couldn't breathe!!! lol!! But none the less,r.i.p. to captain Phil.
Deep Freeze wrote:
No. He was not married. You are thinking of captain Rick or perhaps the guy with the Norwegian wife. They both had wives on their boats. Phil had his sons, Josh and Jake ,on the boat.
joedraper wrote:
That is sad news DF, we get that show here too and I really enjoy it. Didn't his wife also work on the boat with him?
Deep Freeze wrote:
Not sure how many of you follow the television show "Deadliest Catch" but captain Phil Harris of the Cornelia Marie has passed away. Could not get much information just yet but, apparently, he suffered a massive stroke last month and died yesterday.
I am a fan of the show and feel a sense of loss. Those that are familiar with this program will recall that Harris lived a pretty unhealthy life. He chain smoked, did not eat properly and was under tremendous stress. His sons work on the boat with him and it was a "family" business catching crab. I always considered Harris my "favorite" on the show. He was quite a character. I am pretty sure he was almost my age but I would like to believe I look a bit better than he did...HA!!!!!!
A sad day for Discovery Channel and us fans. R.I.P. Phil.
[J.D. DIAMOND] Wednesday, February 10, 2010 3:52:00 PM
Yeah he didn't take care of himself thats for sure,and yeah I think that with all the danger and lifestyle these guys endure on a daily basis they get caught up with that instead of thinking about thier personal health. Phil was my favorite member too,he was hard core and there was something about his personality that was interesting to watch. Life is shorter than we think and thats why I want a new album by Judas Priest!!!!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Wednesday, February 10, 2010 3:42:26 PM)
Deep Freeze wrote:
Yes, I remember that episode as well. It turned out that he had a blood clot in his lung! They ended up filming him at the hospital for a few episodes and then he missed almost an entire season because doctors would not allow him on a boat! While in that hospital, he continued to sneak outside for a smoke!! HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The guy was your classic "old salt". Refused to change his ways and thought he was invincible. I suppose it would be easy to feel that way if one spent so much time in the Bearing Sea doing what these guys do. 40-50 foot waves, winds at or near hurricane speed, danger and injury part of everyday life. I guess there comes a point where you have survived so much danger you think you cannot die?
Most everyone that I know likes captain Sig on the Northwestern. The Princess does. He's cool but I always felt a connection with Phil Harris. I have no idea why, other than I do not take proper care of myself, either! HA!!!!!!!! I don't drink or smoke but that doesn't guarantee anything. Anyway, I will miss the guy. He died during filming so it will be interesting to see how, if at all, they work it into this season.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
That is terrible news Freeze,I have seen the show a few different times. I saw one episode where he was tossed across his room from waves or something and he got the wind knocked out of him,but I think it was a punctured lung or something of the sort...and the first thing he did was light up a smoke and while the smoke was hanging out of his mouth he was complaining that he couldn't breathe!!! lol!! But none the less,r.i.p. to captain Phil.
Deep Freeze wrote:
No. He was not married. You are thinking of captain Rick or perhaps the guy with the Norwegian wife. They both had wives on their boats. Phil had his sons, Josh and Jake ,on the boat.
joedraper wrote:
That is sad news DF, we get that show here too and I really enjoy it. Didn't his wife also work on the boat with him?
Deep Freeze wrote:
Not sure how many of you follow the television show "Deadliest Catch" but captain Phil Harris of the Cornelia Marie has passed away. Could not get much information just yet but, apparently, he suffered a massive stroke last month and died yesterday.
I am a fan of the show and feel a sense of loss. Those that are familiar with this program will recall that Harris lived a pretty unhealthy life. He chain smoked, did not eat properly and was under tremendous stress. His sons work on the boat with him and it was a "family" business catching crab. I always considered Harris my "favorite" on the show. He was quite a character. I am pretty sure he was almost my age but I would like to believe I look a bit better than he did...HA!!!!!!
A sad day for Discovery Channel and us fans. R.I.P. Phil.
[Deep Freeze] Wednesday, February 10, 2010 3:42:26 PM
Yes, I remember that episode as well. It turned out that he had a blood clot in his lung! They ended up filming him at the hospital for a few episodes and then he missed almost an entire season because doctors would not allow him on a boat! While in that hospital, he continued to sneak outside for a smoke!! HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The guy was your classic "old salt". Refused to change his ways and thought he was invincible. I suppose it would be easy to feel that way if one spent so much time in the Bearing Sea doing what these guys do. 40-50 foot waves, winds at or near hurricane speed, danger and injury part of everyday life. I guess there comes a point where you have survived so much danger you think you cannot die?
Most everyone that I know likes captain Sig on the Northwestern. The Princess does. He's cool but I always felt a connection with Phil Harris. I have no idea why, other than I do not take proper care of myself, either! HA!!!!!!!! I don't drink or smoke but that doesn't guarantee anything. Anyway, I will miss the guy. He died during filming so it will be interesting to see how, if at all, they work it into this season. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Wednesday, February 10, 2010 3:16:57 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
That is terrible news Freeze,I have seen the show a few different times. I saw one episode where he was tossed across his room from waves or something and he got the wind knocked out of him,but I think it was a punctured lung or something of the sort...and the first thing he did was light up a smoke and while the smoke was hanging out of his mouth he was complaining that he couldn't breathe!!! lol!! But none the less,r.i.p. to captain Phil.
Deep Freeze wrote:
No. He was not married. You are thinking of captain Rick or perhaps the guy with the Norwegian wife. They both had wives on their boats. Phil had his sons, Josh and Jake ,on the boat.
joedraper wrote:
That is sad news DF, we get that show here too and I really enjoy it. Didn't his wife also work on the boat with him?
Deep Freeze wrote:
Not sure how many of you follow the television show "Deadliest Catch" but captain Phil Harris of the Cornelia Marie has passed away. Could not get much information just yet but, apparently, he suffered a massive stroke last month and died yesterday.
I am a fan of the show and feel a sense of loss. Those that are familiar with this program will recall that Harris lived a pretty unhealthy life. He chain smoked, did not eat properly and was under tremendous stress. His sons work on the boat with him and it was a "family" business catching crab. I always considered Harris my "favorite" on the show. He was quite a character. I am pretty sure he was almost my age but I would like to believe I look a bit better than he did...HA!!!!!!
A sad day for Discovery Channel and us fans. R.I.P. Phil.
[J.D. DIAMOND] Wednesday, February 10, 2010 3:16:57 PM
That is terrible news Freeze,I have seen the show a few different times. I saw one episode where he was tossed across his room from waves or something and he got the wind knocked out of him,but I think it was a punctured lung or something of the sort...and the first thing he did was light up a smoke and while the smoke was hanging out of his mouth he was complaining that he couldn't breathe!!! lol!! But none the less,r.i.p. to captain Phil. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Wednesday, February 10, 2010 11:59:20 AM)
Deep Freeze wrote:
No. He was not married. You are thinking of captain Rick or perhaps the guy with the Norwegian wife. They both had wives on their boats. Phil had his sons, Josh and Jake ,on the boat.
joedraper wrote:
That is sad news DF, we get that show here too and I really enjoy it. Didn't his wife also work on the boat with him?
Deep Freeze wrote:
Not sure how many of you follow the television show "Deadliest Catch" but captain Phil Harris of the Cornelia Marie has passed away. Could not get much information just yet but, apparently, he suffered a massive stroke last month and died yesterday.
I am a fan of the show and feel a sense of loss. Those that are familiar with this program will recall that Harris lived a pretty unhealthy life. He chain smoked, did not eat properly and was under tremendous stress. His sons work on the boat with him and it was a "family" business catching crab. I always considered Harris my "favorite" on the show. He was quite a character. I am pretty sure he was almost my age but I would like to believe I look a bit better than he did...HA!!!!!!
A sad day for Discovery Channel and us fans. R.I.P. Phil.
[Deep Freeze] Wednesday, February 10, 2010 11:59:20 AM
No. He was not married. You are thinking of captain Rick or perhaps the guy with the Norwegian wife. They both had wives on their boats. Phil had his sons, Josh and Jake ,on the boat. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by joedraper from Wednesday, February 10, 2010 11:16:04 AM)
joedraper wrote:
That is sad news DF, we get that show here too and I really enjoy it. Didn't his wife also work on the boat with him?
Deep Freeze wrote:
Not sure how many of you follow the television show "Deadliest Catch" but captain Phil Harris of the Cornelia Marie has passed away. Could not get much information just yet but, apparently, he suffered a massive stroke last month and died yesterday.
I am a fan of the show and feel a sense of loss. Those that are familiar with this program will recall that Harris lived a pretty unhealthy life. He chain smoked, did not eat properly and was under tremendous stress. His sons work on the boat with him and it was a "family" business catching crab. I always considered Harris my "favorite" on the show. He was quite a character. I am pretty sure he was almost my age but I would like to believe I look a bit better than he did...HA!!!!!!
A sad day for Discovery Channel and us fans. R.I.P. Phil.
[joedraper] Wednesday, February 10, 2010 11:16:04 AM
That is sad news DF, we get that show here too and I really enjoy it. Didn't his wife also work on the boat with him? [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Wednesday, February 10, 2010 9:11:00 AM)
Deep Freeze wrote:
Not sure how many of you follow the television show "Deadliest Catch" but captain Phil Harris of the Cornelia Marie has passed away. Could not get much information just yet but, apparently, he suffered a massive stroke last month and died yesterday.
I am a fan of the show and feel a sense of loss. Those that are familiar with this program will recall that Harris lived a pretty unhealthy life. He chain smoked, did not eat properly and was under tremendous stress. His sons work on the boat with him and it was a "family" business catching crab. I always considered Harris my "favorite" on the show. He was quite a character. I am pretty sure he was almost my age but I would like to believe I look a bit better than he did...HA!!!!!!
A sad day for Discovery Channel and us fans. R.I.P. Phil.
[Head banger] Wednesday, February 10, 2010 9:37:12 AM
too bad, but your right, his lifestyle was just a bit unhealthy. He wasnt my favorite, (sig) but he was cool. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Wednesday, February 10, 2010 9:11:00 AM)
Deep Freeze wrote:
Not sure how many of you follow the television show "Deadliest Catch" but captain Phil Harris of the Cornelia Marie has passed away. Could not get much information just yet but, apparently, he suffered a massive stroke last month and died yesterday.
I am a fan of the show and feel a sense of loss. Those that are familiar with this program will recall that Harris lived a pretty unhealthy life. He chain smoked, did not eat properly and was under tremendous stress. His sons work on the boat with him and it was a "family" business catching crab. I always considered Harris my "favorite" on the show. He was quite a character. I am pretty sure he was almost my age but I would like to believe I look a bit better than he did...HA!!!!!!
A sad day for Discovery Channel and us fans. R.I.P. Phil.
[Deep Freeze] Wednesday, February 10, 2010 9:11:00 AM
Not sure how many of you follow the television show "Deadliest Catch" but captain Phil Harris of the Cornelia Marie has passed away. Could not get much information just yet but, apparently, he suffered a massive stroke last month and died yesterday.
I am a fan of the show and feel a sense of loss. Those that are familiar with this program will recall that Harris lived a pretty unhealthy life. He chain smoked, did not eat properly and was under tremendous stress. His sons work on the boat with him and it was a "family" business catching crab. I always considered Harris my "favorite" on the show. He was quite a character. I am pretty sure he was almost my age but I would like to believe I look a bit better than he did...HA!!!!!!
A sad day for Discovery Channel and us fans. R.I.P. Phil.
[spapad] Tuesday, February 09, 2010 5:37:08 PM
Uh, Ron..................What is it? [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by ron h from Tuesday, February 09, 2010 4:54:09 PM)
ron h wrote:
Top 10 Awards!!
10th Place goes to...
Edited at: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 4:55:53 PM
[ron h] Tuesday, February 09, 2010 5:07:58 PM
Crap, I'll see if I can do it a different way. It's too funny to NOT share. If I can't figure it out, you'll have to let me e-mail it to you!! Sorry... [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Tuesday, February 09, 2010 5:02:48 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Ronny we can't see anything???? lol!
ron h wrote:
Top 10 Awards!!
10th Place goes to...
Edited at: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 4:55:53 PM
[J.D. DIAMOND] Tuesday, February 09, 2010 5:02:48 PM
Ronny we can't see anything???? lol! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by ron h from Tuesday, February 09, 2010 4:54:09 PM)
ron h wrote:
Top 10 Awards!!
10th Place goes to...
Edited at: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 4:55:53 PM
[ron h] Tuesday, February 09, 2010 4:54:09 PM
Top 10 Awards!!
10th Place goes to...
Edited at: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 4:55:53 PM
[hellrider 31038] Sunday, February 07, 2010 4:41:32 PM
its cool.its good i know so i can keep this in mind when i watch her.thanks for the link.yeah i got a cuttlebone today could not find a mineral block though..oh by the way she laid another egg in the nest.lol [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, February 06, 2010 6:31:23 AM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Sorry, bro. Don't mean to spook ya but I wouldn't say it if weren't true. Watch her and keep that calcium high is the only thing you can really do.
No. Nothing of the kind. There may, indeed, be a binding problem with any bird laying eggs. Taking that nest out would be a way to discourage egg-laying. What you are doing with that food supplement is trying to replace the "hit" your egg-layer is taking every time she lays an egg.
If she has a nest, she will likely continue to lay eggs. Any one could "bind" or not. At least that supplement will help her not suffer calcium/mineral depletion that will take place whenever she produces eggs.There will always be a chance of one getting "stuck" (binding) with every egg she lays, though.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
so there is no binding problem with the stuff i bought.yeah i will get a cuttlebone and a mineral block on the weekend for them
guidogodoy wrote:
Yeah, no problem, really. Just like humans and vitamins. You just take it in one end and the extra goes out the other! LOL!!
Be sure to have a cuttlebone in there. THAT is calcium. I'd also put in a mineral block if you don't already have one.
Watch that egg-layer though. Binding is a big problem and she'll need more attention than the others. That is when I'd go to the product you bought below. Make sure she gets the most of it. Overkill for the rest of them.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
i will definatly keep in in mind my good friend.and thank you again. hey would it be allright if i mixed this proteen egg food with there food all the time since it has the calcium and vitamins.
guidogodoy wrote:
Well, do as you will but you know my thoughts on the subject.
Calcium to the egg-layer! If not, seizure / death will certainly be in her near future. Good luck.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
dont have the heart to take out the nest guido.lol.singing green finches favorite spot siting on top of it and the zebra love it inside.they sleep in it every night.i think i will just have to make sure they are getting enough vitamins.
guidogodoy wrote:
Yes sir. That would work. A non-breeder, keep the calcium high is #1. Don't forget to get that make-shift nest out of there as well. Once you take out the egg, it will only encourage her to lay another if there is still a nest. Each egg will take a great toll on her body. That is why you really need that supplement. Egg binding (it basically gets stuck) could easily kill as could low calcium from a non-breeder.
Keep me posted, bro.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
hey guido hope this is the right stuff.it has calcium in it to .thank you very much for tips my METAL BROTHER.
guidogodoy wrote:
Just up the protein, then. CALCIUM as well. Just like Kiko, then. She is in a cage all by herself and has now laid three eggs. Never hatched, no nest. That is probably one of the worst things you could do.....make a nest. Laying an egg depeletes them of calcium more than anything else. With a nest, you are encouraging her to lay more once you remove this one or she finds it doesn't hatch.
Lack of calcium from egg laying can cause seizures. Watch it, bro. Easy way to lose her.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
no i am not breeding she just happened to lay an egg.excellent about Kiko.did the other eggs hatch.i have all my birds in one big like parrot size cage is it allright if they get at that eggleyers.
guidogodoy wrote:
Kiko is about to lay her third egg. Keep proteins high and if you have a petstore near, get eggleyers formula. Toss it in their food dish. They lose a lot of protein dropping an egg fertilized or not.
Good luck, bro, keep me posted.
ps. If you are breeding it is a WHOLE other story. More advice to give on that front.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
YEAH my zebra finch laid a egg yesterday.i cut up some klenex in small pieces for her to put in the nest witch she did but what do i do now.Guido WHERE ARE YOU MAN DO YOU HAVE ANY EXPERIENCE WITH THIS.
[guidogodoy] Saturday, February 06, 2010 6:31:23 AM
Sorry, bro. Don't mean to spook ya but I wouldn't say it if weren't true. Watch her and keep that calcium high is the only thing you can really do.
No. Nothing of the kind. There may, indeed, be a binding problem with any bird laying eggs. Taking that nest out would be a way to discourage egg-laying. What you are doing with that food supplement is trying to replace the "hit" your egg-layer is taking every time she lays an egg.
If she has a nest, she will likely continue to lay eggs. Any one could "bind" or not. At least that supplement will help her not suffer calcium/mineral depletion that will take place whenever she produces eggs.There will always be a chance of one getting "stuck" (binding) with every egg she lays, though.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
so there is no binding problem with the stuff i bought.yeah i will get a cuttlebone and a mineral block on the weekend for them
guidogodoy wrote:
Yeah, no problem, really. Just like humans and vitamins. You just take it in one end and the extra goes out the other! LOL!!
Be sure to have a cuttlebone in there. THAT is calcium. I'd also put in a mineral block if you don't already have one.
Watch that egg-layer though. Binding is a big problem and she'll need more attention than the others. That is when I'd go to the product you bought below. Make sure she gets the most of it. Overkill for the rest of them.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
i will definatly keep in in mind my good friend.and thank you again. hey would it be allright if i mixed this proteen egg food with there food all the time since it has the calcium and vitamins.
guidogodoy wrote:
Well, do as you will but you know my thoughts on the subject.
Calcium to the egg-layer! If not, seizure / death will certainly be in her near future. Good luck.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
dont have the heart to take out the nest guido.lol.singing green finches favorite spot siting on top of it and the zebra love it inside.they sleep in it every night.i think i will just have to make sure they are getting enough vitamins.
guidogodoy wrote:
Yes sir. That would work. A non-breeder, keep the calcium high is #1. Don't forget to get that make-shift nest out of there as well. Once you take out the egg, it will only encourage her to lay another if there is still a nest. Each egg will take a great toll on her body. That is why you really need that supplement. Egg binding (it basically gets stuck) could easily kill as could low calcium from a non-breeder.
Keep me posted, bro.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
hey guido hope this is the right stuff.it has calcium in it to .thank you very much for tips my METAL BROTHER.
guidogodoy wrote:
Just up the protein, then. CALCIUM as well. Just like Kiko, then. She is in a cage all by herself and has now laid three eggs. Never hatched, no nest. That is probably one of the worst things you could do.....make a nest. Laying an egg depeletes them of calcium more than anything else. With a nest, you are encouraging her to lay more once you remove this one or she finds it doesn't hatch.
Lack of calcium from egg laying can cause seizures. Watch it, bro. Easy way to lose her.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
no i am not breeding she just happened to lay an egg.excellent about Kiko.did the other eggs hatch.i have all my birds in one big like parrot size cage is it allright if they get at that eggleyers.
guidogodoy wrote:
Kiko is about to lay her third egg. Keep proteins high and if you have a petstore near, get eggleyers formula. Toss it in their food dish. They lose a lot of protein dropping an egg fertilized or not.
Good luck, bro, keep me posted.
ps. If you are breeding it is a WHOLE other story. More advice to give on that front.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
YEAH my zebra finch laid a egg yesterday.i cut up some klenex in small pieces for her to put in the nest witch she did but what do i do now.Guido WHERE ARE YOU MAN DO YOU HAVE ANY EXPERIENCE WITH THIS.
[hellrider 31038] Saturday, February 06, 2010 2:04:54 AM
hey guido now you got me a little worried man. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Friday, February 05, 2010 2:14:26 AM)
guidogodoy wrote:
No. Nothing of the kind. There may, indeed, be a binding problem with any bird laying eggs. Taking that nest out would be a way to discourage egg-laying. What you are doing with that food supplement is trying to replace the "hit" your egg-layer is taking every time she lays an egg.
If she has a nest, she will likely continue to lay eggs. Any one could "bind" or not. At least that supplement will help her not suffer calcium/mineral depletion that will take place whenever she produces eggs.There will always be a chance of one getting "stuck" (binding) with every egg she lays, though.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
so there is no binding problem with the stuff i bought.yeah i will get a cuttlebone and a mineral block on the weekend for them
guidogodoy wrote:
Yeah, no problem, really. Just like humans and vitamins. You just take it in one end and the extra goes out the other! LOL!!
Be sure to have a cuttlebone in there. THAT is calcium. I'd also put in a mineral block if you don't already have one.
Watch that egg-layer though. Binding is a big problem and she'll need more attention than the others. That is when I'd go to the product you bought below. Make sure she gets the most of it. Overkill for the rest of them.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
i will definatly keep in in mind my good friend.and thank you again. hey would it be allright if i mixed this proteen egg food with there food all the time since it has the calcium and vitamins.
guidogodoy wrote:
Well, do as you will but you know my thoughts on the subject.
Calcium to the egg-layer! If not, seizure / death will certainly be in her near future. Good luck.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
dont have the heart to take out the nest guido.lol.singing green finches favorite spot siting on top of it and the zebra love it inside.they sleep in it every night.i think i will just have to make sure they are getting enough vitamins.
guidogodoy wrote:
Yes sir. That would work. A non-breeder, keep the calcium high is #1. Don't forget to get that make-shift nest out of there as well. Once you take out the egg, it will only encourage her to lay another if there is still a nest. Each egg will take a great toll on her body. That is why you really need that supplement. Egg binding (it basically gets stuck) could easily kill as could low calcium from a non-breeder.
Keep me posted, bro.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
hey guido hope this is the right stuff.it has calcium in it to .thank you very much for tips my METAL BROTHER.
guidogodoy wrote:
Just up the protein, then. CALCIUM as well. Just like Kiko, then. She is in a cage all by herself and has now laid three eggs. Never hatched, no nest. That is probably one of the worst things you could do.....make a nest. Laying an egg depeletes them of calcium more than anything else. With a nest, you are encouraging her to lay more once you remove this one or she finds it doesn't hatch.
Lack of calcium from egg laying can cause seizures. Watch it, bro. Easy way to lose her.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
no i am not breeding she just happened to lay an egg.excellent about Kiko.did the other eggs hatch.i have all my birds in one big like parrot size cage is it allright if they get at that eggleyers.
guidogodoy wrote:
Kiko is about to lay her third egg. Keep proteins high and if you have a petstore near, get eggleyers formula. Toss it in their food dish. They lose a lot of protein dropping an egg fertilized or not.
Good luck, bro, keep me posted.
ps. If you are breeding it is a WHOLE other story. More advice to give on that front.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
YEAH my zebra finch laid a egg yesterday.i cut up some klenex in small pieces for her to put in the nest witch she did but what do i do now.Guido WHERE ARE YOU MAN DO YOU HAVE ANY EXPERIENCE WITH THIS.
[guidogodoy] Friday, February 05, 2010 2:14:26 AM
No. Nothing of the kind. There may, indeed, be a binding problem with any bird laying eggs. Taking that nest out would be a way to discourage egg-laying. What you are doing with that food supplement is trying to replace the "hit" your egg-layer is taking every time she lays an egg.
If she has a nest, she will likely continue to lay eggs. Any one could "bind" or not. At least that supplement will help her not suffer calcium/mineral depletion that will take place whenever she produces eggs.There will always be a chance of one getting "stuck" (binding) with every egg she lays, though. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by hellrider 31038 from Friday, February 05, 2010 12:03:19 AM)
hellrider 31038 wrote:
so there is no binding problem with the stuff i bought.yeah i will get a cuttlebone and a mineral block on the weekend for them
guidogodoy wrote:
Yeah, no problem, really. Just like humans and vitamins. You just take it in one end and the extra goes out the other! LOL!!
Be sure to have a cuttlebone in there. THAT is calcium. I'd also put in a mineral block if you don't already have one.
Watch that egg-layer though. Binding is a big problem and she'll need more attention than the others. That is when I'd go to the product you bought below. Make sure she gets the most of it. Overkill for the rest of them.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
i will definatly keep in in mind my good friend.and thank you again. hey would it be allright if i mixed this proteen egg food with there food all the time since it has the calcium and vitamins.
guidogodoy wrote:
Well, do as you will but you know my thoughts on the subject.
Calcium to the egg-layer! If not, seizure / death will certainly be in her near future. Good luck.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
dont have the heart to take out the nest guido.lol.singing green finches favorite spot siting on top of it and the zebra love it inside.they sleep in it every night.i think i will just have to make sure they are getting enough vitamins.
guidogodoy wrote:
Yes sir. That would work. A non-breeder, keep the calcium high is #1. Don't forget to get that make-shift nest out of there as well. Once you take out the egg, it will only encourage her to lay another if there is still a nest. Each egg will take a great toll on her body. That is why you really need that supplement. Egg binding (it basically gets stuck) could easily kill as could low calcium from a non-breeder.
Keep me posted, bro.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
hey guido hope this is the right stuff.it has calcium in it to .thank you very much for tips my METAL BROTHER.
guidogodoy wrote:
Just up the protein, then. CALCIUM as well. Just like Kiko, then. She is in a cage all by herself and has now laid three eggs. Never hatched, no nest. That is probably one of the worst things you could do.....make a nest. Laying an egg depeletes them of calcium more than anything else. With a nest, you are encouraging her to lay more once you remove this one or she finds it doesn't hatch.
Lack of calcium from egg laying can cause seizures. Watch it, bro. Easy way to lose her.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
no i am not breeding she just happened to lay an egg.excellent about Kiko.did the other eggs hatch.i have all my birds in one big like parrot size cage is it allright if they get at that eggleyers.
guidogodoy wrote:
Kiko is about to lay her third egg. Keep proteins high and if you have a petstore near, get eggleyers formula. Toss it in their food dish. They lose a lot of protein dropping an egg fertilized or not.
Good luck, bro, keep me posted.
ps. If you are breeding it is a WHOLE other story. More advice to give on that front.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
YEAH my zebra finch laid a egg yesterday.i cut up some klenex in small pieces for her to put in the nest witch she did but what do i do now.Guido WHERE ARE YOU MAN DO YOU HAVE ANY EXPERIENCE WITH THIS.
[hellrider 31038] Friday, February 05, 2010 12:03:19 AM
so there is no binding problem with the stuff i bought.yeah i will get a cuttlebone and a mineral block on the weekend for them [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Thursday, February 04, 2010 9:11:00 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Yeah, no problem, really. Just like humans and vitamins. You just take it in one end and the extra goes out the other! LOL!!
Be sure to have a cuttlebone in there. THAT is calcium. I'd also put in a mineral block if you don't already have one.
Watch that egg-layer though. Binding is a big problem and she'll need more attention than the others. That is when I'd go to the product you bought below. Make sure she gets the most of it. Overkill for the rest of them.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
i will definatly keep in in mind my good friend.and thank you again. hey would it be allright if i mixed this proteen egg food with there food all the time since it has the calcium and vitamins.
guidogodoy wrote:
Well, do as you will but you know my thoughts on the subject.
Calcium to the egg-layer! If not, seizure / death will certainly be in her near future. Good luck.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
dont have the heart to take out the nest guido.lol.singing green finches favorite spot siting on top of it and the zebra love it inside.they sleep in it every night.i think i will just have to make sure they are getting enough vitamins.
guidogodoy wrote:
Yes sir. That would work. A non-breeder, keep the calcium high is #1. Don't forget to get that make-shift nest out of there as well. Once you take out the egg, it will only encourage her to lay another if there is still a nest. Each egg will take a great toll on her body. That is why you really need that supplement. Egg binding (it basically gets stuck) could easily kill as could low calcium from a non-breeder.
Keep me posted, bro.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
hey guido hope this is the right stuff.it has calcium in it to .thank you very much for tips my METAL BROTHER.
guidogodoy wrote:
Just up the protein, then. CALCIUM as well. Just like Kiko, then. She is in a cage all by herself and has now laid three eggs. Never hatched, no nest. That is probably one of the worst things you could do.....make a nest. Laying an egg depeletes them of calcium more than anything else. With a nest, you are encouraging her to lay more once you remove this one or she finds it doesn't hatch.
Lack of calcium from egg laying can cause seizures. Watch it, bro. Easy way to lose her.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
no i am not breeding she just happened to lay an egg.excellent about Kiko.did the other eggs hatch.i have all my birds in one big like parrot size cage is it allright if they get at that eggleyers.
guidogodoy wrote:
Kiko is about to lay her third egg. Keep proteins high and if you have a petstore near, get eggleyers formula. Toss it in their food dish. They lose a lot of protein dropping an egg fertilized or not.
Good luck, bro, keep me posted.
ps. If you are breeding it is a WHOLE other story. More advice to give on that front.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
YEAH my zebra finch laid a egg yesterday.i cut up some klenex in small pieces for her to put in the nest witch she did but what do i do now.Guido WHERE ARE YOU MAN DO YOU HAVE ANY EXPERIENCE WITH THIS.
[guidogodoy] Thursday, February 04, 2010 9:11:00 PM
Yeah, no problem, really. Just like humans and vitamins. You just take it in one end and the extra goes out the other! LOL!!
Be sure to have a cuttlebone in there. THAT is calcium. I'd also put in a mineral block if you don't already have one.
Watch that egg-layer though. Binding is a big problem and she'll need more attention than the others. That is when I'd go to the product you bought below. Make sure she gets the most of it. Overkill for the rest of them. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by hellrider 31038 from Thursday, February 04, 2010 7:52:00 PM)
hellrider 31038 wrote:
i will definatly keep in in mind my good friend.and thank you again. hey would it be allright if i mixed this proteen egg food with there food all the time since it has the calcium and vitamins.
guidogodoy wrote:
Well, do as you will but you know my thoughts on the subject.
Calcium to the egg-layer! If not, seizure / death will certainly be in her near future. Good luck.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
dont have the heart to take out the nest guido.lol.singing green finches favorite spot siting on top of it and the zebra love it inside.they sleep in it every night.i think i will just have to make sure they are getting enough vitamins.
guidogodoy wrote:
Yes sir. That would work. A non-breeder, keep the calcium high is #1. Don't forget to get that make-shift nest out of there as well. Once you take out the egg, it will only encourage her to lay another if there is still a nest. Each egg will take a great toll on her body. That is why you really need that supplement. Egg binding (it basically gets stuck) could easily kill as could low calcium from a non-breeder.
Keep me posted, bro.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
hey guido hope this is the right stuff.it has calcium in it to .thank you very much for tips my METAL BROTHER.
guidogodoy wrote:
Just up the protein, then. CALCIUM as well. Just like Kiko, then. She is in a cage all by herself and has now laid three eggs. Never hatched, no nest. That is probably one of the worst things you could do.....make a nest. Laying an egg depeletes them of calcium more than anything else. With a nest, you are encouraging her to lay more once you remove this one or she finds it doesn't hatch.
Lack of calcium from egg laying can cause seizures. Watch it, bro. Easy way to lose her.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
no i am not breeding she just happened to lay an egg.excellent about Kiko.did the other eggs hatch.i have all my birds in one big like parrot size cage is it allright if they get at that eggleyers.
guidogodoy wrote:
Kiko is about to lay her third egg. Keep proteins high and if you have a petstore near, get eggleyers formula. Toss it in their food dish. They lose a lot of protein dropping an egg fertilized or not.
Good luck, bro, keep me posted.
ps. If you are breeding it is a WHOLE other story. More advice to give on that front.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
YEAH my zebra finch laid a egg yesterday.i cut up some klenex in small pieces for her to put in the nest witch she did but what do i do now.Guido WHERE ARE YOU MAN DO YOU HAVE ANY EXPERIENCE WITH THIS.
[hellrider 31038] Thursday, February 04, 2010 7:52:00 PM
i will definatly keep in in mind my good friend.and thank you again. hey would it be allright if i mixed this proteen egg food with there food all the time since it has the calcium and vitamins.
Well, do as you will but you know my thoughts on the subject.
Calcium to the egg-layer! If not, seizure / death will certainly be in her near future. Good luck.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
dont have the heart to take out the nest guido.lol.singing green finches favorite spot siting on top of it and the zebra love it inside.they sleep in it every night.i think i will just have to make sure they are getting enough vitamins.
guidogodoy wrote:
Yes sir. That would work. A non-breeder, keep the calcium high is #1. Don't forget to get that make-shift nest out of there as well. Once you take out the egg, it will only encourage her to lay another if there is still a nest. Each egg will take a great toll on her body. That is why you really need that supplement. Egg binding (it basically gets stuck) could easily kill as could low calcium from a non-breeder.
Keep me posted, bro.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
hey guido hope this is the right stuff.it has calcium in it to .thank you very much for tips my METAL BROTHER.
guidogodoy wrote:
Just up the protein, then. CALCIUM as well. Just like Kiko, then. She is in a cage all by herself and has now laid three eggs. Never hatched, no nest. That is probably one of the worst things you could do.....make a nest. Laying an egg depeletes them of calcium more than anything else. With a nest, you are encouraging her to lay more once you remove this one or she finds it doesn't hatch.
Lack of calcium from egg laying can cause seizures. Watch it, bro. Easy way to lose her.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
no i am not breeding she just happened to lay an egg.excellent about Kiko.did the other eggs hatch.i have all my birds in one big like parrot size cage is it allright if they get at that eggleyers.
guidogodoy wrote:
Kiko is about to lay her third egg. Keep proteins high and if you have a petstore near, get eggleyers formula. Toss it in their food dish. They lose a lot of protein dropping an egg fertilized or not.
Good luck, bro, keep me posted.
ps. If you are breeding it is a WHOLE other story. More advice to give on that front.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
YEAH my zebra finch laid a egg yesterday.i cut up some klenex in small pieces for her to put in the nest witch she did but what do i do now.Guido WHERE ARE YOU MAN DO YOU HAVE ANY EXPERIENCE WITH THIS.
[guidogodoy] Thursday, February 04, 2010 7:41:13 PM
Well, do as you will but you know my thoughts on the subject.
Calcium to the egg-layer! If not, seizure / death will certainly be in her near future. Good luck. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by hellrider 31038 from Thursday, February 04, 2010 4:35:13 PM)
hellrider 31038 wrote:
dont have the heart to take out the nest guido.lol.singing green finches favorite spot siting on top of it and the zebra love it inside.they sleep in it every night.i think i will just have to make sure they are getting enough vitamins.
guidogodoy wrote:
Yes sir. That would work. A non-breeder, keep the calcium high is #1. Don't forget to get that make-shift nest out of there as well. Once you take out the egg, it will only encourage her to lay another if there is still a nest. Each egg will take a great toll on her body. That is why you really need that supplement. Egg binding (it basically gets stuck) could easily kill as could low calcium from a non-breeder.
Keep me posted, bro.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
hey guido hope this is the right stuff.it has calcium in it to .thank you very much for tips my METAL BROTHER.
guidogodoy wrote:
Just up the protein, then. CALCIUM as well. Just like Kiko, then. She is in a cage all by herself and has now laid three eggs. Never hatched, no nest. That is probably one of the worst things you could do.....make a nest. Laying an egg depeletes them of calcium more than anything else. With a nest, you are encouraging her to lay more once you remove this one or she finds it doesn't hatch.
Lack of calcium from egg laying can cause seizures. Watch it, bro. Easy way to lose her.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
no i am not breeding she just happened to lay an egg.excellent about Kiko.did the other eggs hatch.i have all my birds in one big like parrot size cage is it allright if they get at that eggleyers.
guidogodoy wrote:
Kiko is about to lay her third egg. Keep proteins high and if you have a petstore near, get eggleyers formula. Toss it in their food dish. They lose a lot of protein dropping an egg fertilized or not.
Good luck, bro, keep me posted.
ps. If you are breeding it is a WHOLE other story. More advice to give on that front.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
YEAH my zebra finch laid a egg yesterday.i cut up some klenex in small pieces for her to put in the nest witch she did but what do i do now.Guido WHERE ARE YOU MAN DO YOU HAVE ANY EXPERIENCE WITH THIS.
[hellrider 31038] Thursday, February 04, 2010 7:04:00 PM
hey Vailant.its a little over a centimeter long i dont know if it has any spots or anything it was inside the nest .kind of dark and i notice they were bringing stuff in the nest like feather so i looked inside and there was a egg so i cut up some klennex in small pieces for them to put in the nest and they buried the egg with it cant see it any more.lol [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Thursday, February 04, 2010 6:17:36 PM)
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Hey Hellrider!! How does the egg look like? Does it have any spots or cool colors? How small is it?
hellrider 31038 wrote:
dont have the heart to take out the nest guido.lol.singing green finches favorite spot siting on top of it and the zebra love it inside.they sleep in it every night.i think i will just have to make sure they are getting enough vitamins.
guidogodoy wrote:
Yes sir. That would work. A non-breeder, keep the calcium high is #1. Don't forget to get that make-shift nest out of there as well. Once you take out the egg, it will only encourage her to lay another if there is still a nest. Each egg will take a great toll on her body. That is why you really need that supplement. Egg binding (it basically gets stuck) could easily kill as could low calcium from a non-breeder.
Keep me posted, bro.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
hey guido hope this is the right stuff.it has calcium in it to .thank you very much for tips my METAL BROTHER.
guidogodoy wrote:
Just up the protein, then. CALCIUM as well. Just like Kiko, then. She is in a cage all by herself and has now laid three eggs. Never hatched, no nest. That is probably one of the worst things you could do.....make a nest. Laying an egg depeletes them of calcium more than anything else. With a nest, you are encouraging her to lay more once you remove this one or she finds it doesn't hatch.
Lack of calcium from egg laying can cause seizures. Watch it, bro. Easy way to lose her.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
no i am not breeding she just happened to lay an egg.excellent about Kiko.did the other eggs hatch.i have all my birds in one big like parrot size cage is it allright if they get at that eggleyers.
guidogodoy wrote:
Kiko is about to lay her third egg. Keep proteins high and if you have a petstore near, get eggleyers formula. Toss it in their food dish. They lose a lot of protein dropping an egg fertilized or not.
Good luck, bro, keep me posted.
ps. If you are breeding it is a WHOLE other story. More advice to give on that front.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
YEAH my zebra finch laid a egg yesterday.i cut up some klenex in small pieces for her to put in the nest witch she did but what do i do now.Guido WHERE ARE YOU MAN DO YOU HAVE ANY EXPERIENCE WITH THIS.
[Vaillant 3.0] Thursday, February 04, 2010 6:17:36 PM
Hey Hellrider!! How does the egg look like? Does it have any spots or cool colors? How small is it? [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by hellrider 31038 from Thursday, February 04, 2010 4:35:13 PM)
hellrider 31038 wrote:
dont have the heart to take out the nest guido.lol.singing green finches favorite spot siting on top of it and the zebra love it inside.they sleep in it every night.i think i will just have to make sure they are getting enough vitamins.
guidogodoy wrote:
Yes sir. That would work. A non-breeder, keep the calcium high is #1. Don't forget to get that make-shift nest out of there as well. Once you take out the egg, it will only encourage her to lay another if there is still a nest. Each egg will take a great toll on her body. That is why you really need that supplement. Egg binding (it basically gets stuck) could easily kill as could low calcium from a non-breeder.
Keep me posted, bro.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
hey guido hope this is the right stuff.it has calcium in it to .thank you very much for tips my METAL BROTHER.
guidogodoy wrote:
Just up the protein, then. CALCIUM as well. Just like Kiko, then. She is in a cage all by herself and has now laid three eggs. Never hatched, no nest. That is probably one of the worst things you could do.....make a nest. Laying an egg depeletes them of calcium more than anything else. With a nest, you are encouraging her to lay more once you remove this one or she finds it doesn't hatch.
Lack of calcium from egg laying can cause seizures. Watch it, bro. Easy way to lose her.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
no i am not breeding she just happened to lay an egg.excellent about Kiko.did the other eggs hatch.i have all my birds in one big like parrot size cage is it allright if they get at that eggleyers.
guidogodoy wrote:
Kiko is about to lay her third egg. Keep proteins high and if you have a petstore near, get eggleyers formula. Toss it in their food dish. They lose a lot of protein dropping an egg fertilized or not.
Good luck, bro, keep me posted.
ps. If you are breeding it is a WHOLE other story. More advice to give on that front.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
YEAH my zebra finch laid a egg yesterday.i cut up some klenex in small pieces for her to put in the nest witch she did but what do i do now.Guido WHERE ARE YOU MAN DO YOU HAVE ANY EXPERIENCE WITH THIS.
[hellrider 31038] Thursday, February 04, 2010 4:35:13 PM
dont have the heart to take out the nest guido.lol.singing green finches favorite spot siting on top of it and the zebra love it inside.they sleep in it every night.i think i will just have to make sure they are getting enough vitamins. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Thursday, February 04, 2010 1:16:19 AM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Yes sir. That would work. A non-breeder, keep the calcium high is #1. Don't forget to get that make-shift nest out of there as well. Once you take out the egg, it will only encourage her to lay another if there is still a nest. Each egg will take a great toll on her body. That is why you really need that supplement. Egg binding (it basically gets stuck) could easily kill as could low calcium from a non-breeder.
Keep me posted, bro.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
hey guido hope this is the right stuff.it has calcium in it to .thank you very much for tips my METAL BROTHER.
guidogodoy wrote:
Just up the protein, then. CALCIUM as well. Just like Kiko, then. She is in a cage all by herself and has now laid three eggs. Never hatched, no nest. That is probably one of the worst things you could do.....make a nest. Laying an egg depeletes them of calcium more than anything else. With a nest, you are encouraging her to lay more once you remove this one or she finds it doesn't hatch.
Lack of calcium from egg laying can cause seizures. Watch it, bro. Easy way to lose her.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
no i am not breeding she just happened to lay an egg.excellent about Kiko.did the other eggs hatch.i have all my birds in one big like parrot size cage is it allright if they get at that eggleyers.
guidogodoy wrote:
Kiko is about to lay her third egg. Keep proteins high and if you have a petstore near, get eggleyers formula. Toss it in their food dish. They lose a lot of protein dropping an egg fertilized or not.
Good luck, bro, keep me posted.
ps. If you are breeding it is a WHOLE other story. More advice to give on that front.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
YEAH my zebra finch laid a egg yesterday.i cut up some klenex in small pieces for her to put in the nest witch she did but what do i do now.Guido WHERE ARE YOU MAN DO YOU HAVE ANY EXPERIENCE WITH THIS.
[guidogodoy] Thursday, February 04, 2010 1:16:19 AM
Yes sir. That would work. A non-breeder, keep the calcium high is #1. Don't forget to get that make-shift nest out of there as well. Once you take out the egg, it will only encourage her to lay another if there is still a nest. Each egg will take a great toll on her body. That is why you really need that supplement. Egg binding (it basically gets stuck) could easily kill as could low calcium from a non-breeder.
hey guido hope this is the right stuff.it has calcium in it to .thank you very much for tips my METAL BROTHER.
guidogodoy wrote:
Just up the protein, then. CALCIUM as well. Just like Kiko, then. She is in a cage all by herself and has now laid three eggs. Never hatched, no nest. That is probably one of the worst things you could do.....make a nest. Laying an egg depeletes them of calcium more than anything else. With a nest, you are encouraging her to lay more once you remove this one or she finds it doesn't hatch.
Lack of calcium from egg laying can cause seizures. Watch it, bro. Easy way to lose her.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
no i am not breeding she just happened to lay an egg.excellent about Kiko.did the other eggs hatch.i have all my birds in one big like parrot size cage is it allright if they get at that eggleyers.
guidogodoy wrote:
Kiko is about to lay her third egg. Keep proteins high and if you have a petstore near, get eggleyers formula. Toss it in their food dish. They lose a lot of protein dropping an egg fertilized or not.
Good luck, bro, keep me posted.
ps. If you are breeding it is a WHOLE other story. More advice to give on that front.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
YEAH my zebra finch laid a egg yesterday.i cut up some klenex in small pieces for her to put in the nest witch she did but what do i do now.Guido WHERE ARE YOU MAN DO YOU HAVE ANY EXPERIENCE WITH THIS.
[hellrider 31038] Wednesday, February 03, 2010 7:09:07 PM
hey guido hope this is the right stuff.it has calcium in it to .thank you very much for tips my METAL BROTHER. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Tuesday, February 02, 2010 2:42:29 AM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Just up the protein, then. CALCIUM as well. Just like Kiko, then. She is in a cage all by herself and has now laid three eggs. Never hatched, no nest. That is probably one of the worst things you could do.....make a nest. Laying an egg depeletes them of calcium more than anything else. With a nest, you are encouraging her to lay more once you remove this one or she finds it doesn't hatch.
Lack of calcium from egg laying can cause seizures. Watch it, bro. Easy way to lose her.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
no i am not breeding she just happened to lay an egg.excellent about Kiko.did the other eggs hatch.i have all my birds in one big like parrot size cage is it allright if they get at that eggleyers.
guidogodoy wrote:
Kiko is about to lay her third egg. Keep proteins high and if you have a petstore near, get eggleyers formula. Toss it in their food dish. They lose a lot of protein dropping an egg fertilized or not.
Good luck, bro, keep me posted.
ps. If you are breeding it is a WHOLE other story. More advice to give on that front.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
YEAH my zebra finch laid a egg yesterday.i cut up some klenex in small pieces for her to put in the nest witch she did but what do i do now.Guido WHERE ARE YOU MAN DO YOU HAVE ANY EXPERIENCE WITH THIS.
[hellrider 31038] Wednesday, February 03, 2010 4:25:57 PM
yeah she has a nest im going go HEAD TO THE HIGHWAY the store on my bike lol.and check out what my petshop has got .thanks man.maybe they got like a muti vitamin or something. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Tuesday, February 02, 2010 2:42:29 AM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Just up the protein, then. CALCIUM as well. Just like Kiko, then. She is in a cage all by herself and has now laid three eggs. Never hatched, no nest. That is probably one of the worst things you could do.....make a nest. Laying an egg depeletes them of calcium more than anything else. With a nest, you are encouraging her to lay more once you remove this one or she finds it doesn't hatch.
Lack of calcium from egg laying can cause seizures. Watch it, bro. Easy way to lose her.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
no i am not breeding she just happened to lay an egg.excellent about Kiko.did the other eggs hatch.i have all my birds in one big like parrot size cage is it allright if they get at that eggleyers.
guidogodoy wrote:
Kiko is about to lay her third egg. Keep proteins high and if you have a petstore near, get eggleyers formula. Toss it in their food dish. They lose a lot of protein dropping an egg fertilized or not.
Good luck, bro, keep me posted.
ps. If you are breeding it is a WHOLE other story. More advice to give on that front.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
YEAH my zebra finch laid a egg yesterday.i cut up some klenex in small pieces for her to put in the nest witch she did but what do i do now.Guido WHERE ARE YOU MAN DO YOU HAVE ANY EXPERIENCE WITH THIS.
[guidogodoy] Tuesday, February 02, 2010 2:42:29 AM
Just up the protein, then. CALCIUM as well. Just like Kiko, then. She is in a cage all by herself and has now laid three eggs. Never hatched, no nest. That is probably one of the worst things you could do.....make a nest. Laying an egg depeletes them of calcium more than anything else. With a nest, you are encouraging her to lay more once you remove this one or she finds it doesn't hatch.
Lack of calcium from egg laying can cause seizures. Watch it, bro. Easy way to lose her.
no i am not breeding she just happened to lay an egg.excellent about Kiko.did the other eggs hatch.i have all my birds in one big like parrot size cage is it allright if they get at that eggleyers.
guidogodoy wrote:
Kiko is about to lay her third egg. Keep proteins high and if you have a petstore near, get eggleyers formula. Toss it in their food dish. They lose a lot of protein dropping an egg fertilized or not.
Good luck, bro, keep me posted.
ps. If you are breeding it is a WHOLE other story. More advice to give on that front.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
YEAH my zebra finch laid a egg yesterday.i cut up some klenex in small pieces for her to put in the nest witch she did but what do i do now.Guido WHERE ARE YOU MAN DO YOU HAVE ANY EXPERIENCE WITH THIS.
[hellrider 31038] Tuesday, February 02, 2010 12:44:30 AM
no i am not breeding she just happened to lay an egg.excellent about Kiko.did the other eggs hatch.i have all my birds in one big like parrot size cage is it allright if they get at that eggleyers. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Monday, February 01, 2010 8:21:57 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Kiko is about to lay her third egg. Keep proteins high and if you have a petstore near, get eggleyers formula. Toss it in their food dish. They lose a lot of protein dropping an egg fertilized or not.
Good luck, bro, keep me posted.
ps. If you are breeding it is a WHOLE other story. More advice to give on that front.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
YEAH my zebra finch laid a egg yesterday.i cut up some klenex in small pieces for her to put in the nest witch she did but what do i do now.Guido WHERE ARE YOU MAN DO YOU HAVE ANY EXPERIENCE WITH THIS.
[guidogodoy] Monday, February 01, 2010 8:21:57 PM
Kiko is about to lay her third egg. Keep proteins high and if you have a petstore near, get eggleyers formula. Toss it in their food dish. They lose a lot of protein dropping an egg fertilized or not.
Good luck, bro, keep me posted.
ps. If you are breeding it is a WHOLE other story. More advice to give on that front. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by hellrider 31038 from Monday, February 01, 2010 6:43:10 PM)
hellrider 31038 wrote:
YEAH my zebra finch laid a egg yesterday.i cut up some klenex in small pieces for her to put in the nest witch she did but what do i do now.Guido WHERE ARE YOU MAN DO YOU HAVE ANY EXPERIENCE WITH THIS.
[hellrider 31038] Monday, February 01, 2010 6:43:10 PM
YEAH my zebra finch laid a egg yesterday.i cut up some klenex in small pieces for her to put in the nest witch she did but what do i do now.Guido WHERE ARE YOU MAN DO YOU HAVE ANY EXPERIENCE WITH THIS.
[Budred] Monday, February 01, 2010 9:25:13 AM
Hmmm...
Why now do the Grammy gods bow down and give the mighty
Judas their just desserts? I enjoyed Priest not being part of the
mainstream but they should have been recognized long ago...
...any thoughts?
[guidogodoy] Monday, February 01, 2010 1:04:22 AM
"Waite" (as in John?), I am not the "colosed"-minded person that has only had ONE freakin' topic since I have been here. EVERY post of yours has to do with Ripper?!? WTF?
J.D. at least has other topics. Yeah, maybe you are right. Perhaps he is more my type. You'd just cheat with Ripper anyway. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Numero Uno from Sunday, January 31, 2010 9:55:01 PM)
Numero Uno wrote:
Spews back nonsense? Please explain my friend. I'm just an ordinary guy expressing his humble opinion.........waite.... are you one of those colsed minded fans or are you just jealous of me and J.D.??
guidogodoy wrote:
"Refreshing" because it spews back the nonsense you have been posting here for years? Good GRAVY, man. We said that we are still trying to hook that date with Ripper up for you! AAARGH!
Numero Uno wrote:
WOW!! What a refreshing post!
I think the Ripper era is fascinating. The way they found this guy in a tribute band, flew him over for an audition and got the job after singing one line of victum. Just listen how this guy nails it on Live In London! The Ripper era is so underated its pathetic. Too many closed minded fans out there that just never gave it a chance and never will. And the thing that gets me is that Rob Halford left the band (as far as I know) hanging and seems like a lot fans take it out on Ripper Owens just because he replaced the guy that walked out on Priest. You're right about the production on Jugulator, its not that great but still a great album and Demoliton takes some getting use to but its heavy. I wish they would have recorded at least on more cd with Ripper that had a more traditional Priest sound. That would have been awesome.
And yes I still have a big crush Tim Owens and J.D. Diamond.....
Budred wrote:
The great thing about this is that it's just opinion. Everyone has one and they only matter to them.
I surely do not want to argue anyone's point(pro or con). All I know is that I love Judas Priest and
was dying to hear something from them. Their breakup crushed me. When I heard Jugulator I was
quite disappointed. After giving it a chance it was my opinion that it wasn't the music as much
as the production.(poor sound quality) I went to see them live and it sounded as bad as the album. I
was starting to think this was the end of Priest. When they released Demolition I bought it out of
support for the band. After giving it a listen the first thing I noticed was much better production. After
several listens I started liking it. I think it's pretty heavy. It may be a little different for Priest but that's
the great thing about Priest. Ever evolving, always different each time out. When I saw them live Ripper
fit in so much better than the first time. I ended up seeing them four times on that tour. Pittsburgh, Akron,
Cleveland, and Columbus. I took friends who had never seen Priest and they loved it. Also just watching
the crowd response(and size) made me feel pretty good. Was it Halford Priest? Of course not. But it was
still the Priest. Scott still pounding the drums, K.K. and Glennstill shredding the guitars, Ian was still
the backbone. And Ripper did just fine on vocals. Buy Live in London and listen to him do Diamonds and
Rust. It may rival Rob's version. I am much happier with Rob in the band but I was equally as glad to just
have Priest doing something again. Peace
[Cooper Ryback] Sunday, January 31, 2010 10:13:09 PM
Eight years is a heck of a gap!
Blood...........Suckers!!!!!!
Hmmmmmmm.......I just wonder why the waited till Demolition to write a song about that. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Budred from Saturday, January 30, 2010 9:31:57 AM)
Budred wrote:
Ripper bashing makes me go hmmmm...
Do Priest fans not realize that there was an 8 year gap between albums. They were going nowhere.
Then (THEY) discovered Ripper. Rob wasn't coming back and for us and them they had to do something.
Some seem to think Ripper tried too hard to copy Rob but Priest actually dictated that. They chose his wardrobe,
his singing style and so on. Ripper was an employee of Priest. As far as the musical direction Priest has
always evolved their sound so as not to sound the same each time out. In my mind the only problem with Jugulator
was the production more so than the music. I think they corrected that with Demolition. To me there are some
very heavy songs on that record. Lastly if anyone saw Priest on the Demolition tour(I did 4 times) they were as tight and great
sounding as ever. Ripper kept the Priest going. Praise him don't criticize him. Just my opinion, only matters to me.
PEACE!
[Cooper Ryback] Sunday, January 31, 2010 9:55:01 PM
Spews back nonsense? Please explain my friend. I'm just an ordinary guy expressing his humble opinion.........waite.... are you one of those colsed minded fans or are you just jealous of me and J.D.??
"Refreshing" because it spews back the nonsense you have been posting here for years? Good GRAVY, man. We said that we are still trying to hook that date with Ripper up for you! AAARGH!
Numero Uno wrote:
WOW!! What a refreshing post!
I think the Ripper era is fascinating. The way they found this guy in a tribute band, flew him over for an audition and got the job after singing one line of victum. Just listen how this guy nails it on Live In London! The Ripper era is so underated its pathetic. Too many closed minded fans out there that just never gave it a chance and never will. And the thing that gets me is that Rob Halford left the band (as far as I know) hanging and seems like a lot fans take it out on Ripper Owens just because he replaced the guy that walked out on Priest. You're right about the production on Jugulator, its not that great but still a great album and Demoliton takes some getting use to but its heavy. I wish they would have recorded at least on more cd with Ripper that had a more traditional Priest sound. That would have been awesome.
And yes I still have a big crush Tim Owens and J.D. Diamond.....
Budred wrote:
The great thing about this is that it's just opinion. Everyone has one and they only matter to them.
I surely do not want to argue anyone's point(pro or con). All I know is that I love Judas Priest and
was dying to hear something from them. Their breakup crushed me. When I heard Jugulator I was
quite disappointed. After giving it a chance it was my opinion that it wasn't the music as much
as the production.(poor sound quality) I went to see them live and it sounded as bad as the album. I
was starting to think this was the end of Priest. When they released Demolition I bought it out of
support for the band. After giving it a listen the first thing I noticed was much better production. After
several listens I started liking it. I think it's pretty heavy. It may be a little different for Priest but that's
the great thing about Priest. Ever evolving, always different each time out. When I saw them live Ripper
fit in so much better than the first time. I ended up seeing them four times on that tour. Pittsburgh, Akron,
Cleveland, and Columbus. I took friends who had never seen Priest and they loved it. Also just watching
the crowd response(and size) made me feel pretty good. Was it Halford Priest? Of course not. But it was
still the Priest. Scott still pounding the drums, K.K. and Glennstill shredding the guitars, Ian was still
the backbone. And Ripper did just fine on vocals. Buy Live in London and listen to him do Diamonds and
Rust. It may rival Rob's version. I am much happier with Rob in the band but I was equally as glad to just
have Priest doing something again. Peace
[guidogodoy] Sunday, January 31, 2010 9:40:07 PM
"Refreshing" because it spews back the nonsense you have been posting here for years? Good GRAVY, man. We said that we are still trying to hook that date with Ripper up for you! AAARGH! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Numero Uno from Sunday, January 31, 2010 9:23:15 PM)
Numero Uno wrote:
WOW!! What a refreshing post!
I think the Ripper era is fascinating. The way they found this guy in a tribute band, flew him over for an audition and got the job after singing one line of victum. Just listen how this guy nails it on Live In London! The Ripper era is so underated its pathetic. Too many closed minded fans out there that just never gave it a chance and never will. And the thing that gets me is that Rob Halford left the band (as far as I know) hanging and seems like a lot fans take it out on Ripper Owens just because he replaced the guy that walked out on Priest. You're right about the production on Jugulator, its not that great but still a great album and Demoliton takes some getting use to but its heavy. I wish they would have recorded at least on more cd with Ripper that had a more traditional Priest sound. That would have been awesome.
And yes I still have a big crush Tim Owens and J.D. Diamond.....
Budred wrote:
The great thing about this is that it's just opinion. Everyone has one and they only matter to them.
I surely do not want to argue anyone's point(pro or con). All I know is that I love Judas Priest and
was dying to hear something from them. Their breakup crushed me. When I heard Jugulator I was
quite disappointed. After giving it a chance it was my opinion that it wasn't the music as much
as the production.(poor sound quality) I went to see them live and it sounded as bad as the album. I
was starting to think this was the end of Priest. When they released Demolition I bought it out of
support for the band. After giving it a listen the first thing I noticed was much better production. After
several listens I started liking it. I think it's pretty heavy. It may be a little different for Priest but that's
the great thing about Priest. Ever evolving, always different each time out. When I saw them live Ripper
fit in so much better than the first time. I ended up seeing them four times on that tour. Pittsburgh, Akron,
Cleveland, and Columbus. I took friends who had never seen Priest and they loved it. Also just watching
the crowd response(and size) made me feel pretty good. Was it Halford Priest? Of course not. But it was
still the Priest. Scott still pounding the drums, K.K. and Glennstill shredding the guitars, Ian was still
the backbone. And Ripper did just fine on vocals. Buy Live in London and listen to him do Diamonds and
Rust. It may rival Rob's version. I am much happier with Rob in the band but I was equally as glad to just
have Priest doing something again. Peace
[Cooper Ryback] Sunday, January 31, 2010 9:23:15 PM
WOW!! What a refreshing post!
I think the Ripper era is fascinating. The way they found this guy in a tribute band, flew him over for an audition and got the job after singing one line of victum. Just listen how this guy nails it on Live In London! The Ripper era is so underated its pathetic. Too many closed minded fans out there that just never gave it a chance and never will. And the thing that gets me is that Rob Halford left the band (as far as I know) hanging and seems like a lot fans take it out on Ripper Owens just because he replaced the guy that walked out on Priest. You're right about the production on Jugulator, its not that great but still a great album and Demoliton takes some getting use to but its heavy. I wish they would have recorded at least on more cd with Ripper that had a more traditional Priest sound. That would have been awesome.
And yes I still have a big crush Tim Owens and J.D. Diamond..... [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Budred from Sunday, January 31, 2010 9:44:12 AM)
Budred wrote:
The great thing about this is that it's just opinion. Everyone has one and they only matter to them.
I surely do not want to argue anyone's point(pro or con). All I know is that I love Judas Priest and
was dying to hear something from them. Their breakup crushed me. When I heard Jugulator I was
quite disappointed. After giving it a chance it was my opinion that it wasn't the music as much
as the production.(poor sound quality) I went to see them live and it sounded as bad as the album. I
was starting to think this was the end of Priest. When they released Demolition I bought it out of
support for the band. After giving it a listen the first thing I noticed was much better production. After
several listens I started liking it. I think it's pretty heavy. It may be a little different for Priest but that's
the great thing about Priest. Ever evolving, always different each time out. When I saw them live Ripper
fit in so much better than the first time. I ended up seeing them four times on that tour. Pittsburgh, Akron,
Cleveland, and Columbus. I took friends who had never seen Priest and they loved it. Also just watching
the crowd response(and size) made me feel pretty good. Was it Halford Priest? Of course not. But it was
still the Priest. Scott still pounding the drums, K.K. and Glennstill shredding the guitars, Ian was still
the backbone. And Ripper did just fine on vocals. Buy Live in London and listen to him do Diamonds and
Rust. It may rival Rob's version. I am much happier with Rob in the band but I was equally as glad to just
have Priest doing something again. Peace
My opinion is that while Priest are the greatest, they somehow missed the "cult of personality" in the late 80's when they put out Turbo. Not too many years later they were stuggling to find a new frontman. That really hurt them. I Think they have done really well considering some of the somewhat disasters during their carreer. They will live on long after they retire as a classic, if not founding, influence to Heavy Metal. Edited at: Sunday, January 31, 2010 1:40:07 PM Edited at: Sunday, January 31, 2010 1:41:21 PM
[spapad] Sunday, January 31, 2010 1:39:34 PM
My opinion is that while Priest are the greatest, they somehow missed the "cult of personality" in the late 80's when they put out Turbo. Not too many years later they were stuggling to find a new frontman. That really hurt them. I Think they have done really well considering some of the somewhat disasters during their carreer. They will live on long after they retire as a classic, if not founding, influence to Heavy Metal. Edited at: Sunday, January 31, 2010 1:40:07 PM Edited at: Sunday, January 31, 2010 1:41:21 PM
Hmmm...
Just wondering. Did you ever think about whether Priest has achieved the kind of success
that they deserve. They have sold millions of records and still draw large crowds to their shows.
They still have a career some 40 years later. Unheard of in the music world except for a select few.
They are getting closer to the end. Do you think they hold their respective position among the
musical heirarchy, or do you think they deserve more. Tell me what you think.
[Head banger] Sunday, January 31, 2010 1:12:48 PM
no. but it is what it is. I think they should have outsold maiden..... but.... [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Budred from Sunday, January 31, 2010 12:12:30 PM)
Budred wrote:
Hmmm...
Just wondering. Did you ever think about whether Priest has achieved the kind of success
that they deserve. They have sold millions of records and still draw large crowds to their shows.
They still have a career some 40 years later. Unheard of in the music world except for a select few.
They are getting closer to the end. Do you think they hold their respective position among the
musical heirarchy, or do you think they deserve more. Tell me what you think.
Hmmm...
Just wondering. Did you ever think about whether Priest has achieved the kind of success
that they deserve. They have sold millions of records and still draw large crowds to their shows.
They still have a career some 40 years later. Unheard of in the music world except for a select few.
They are getting closer to the end. Do you think they hold their respective position among the
musical heirarchy, or do you think they deserve more. Tell me what you think.
[Deep Freeze] Sunday, January 31, 2010 12:20:08 PM
Hmmm...
Just wondering. Did you ever think about whether Priest has achieved the kind of success
that they deserve. They have sold millions of records and still draw large crowds to their shows.
They still have a career some 40 years later. Unheard of in the music world except for a select few.
They are getting closer to the end. Do you think they hold their respective position among the
musical heirarchy, or do you think they deserve more. Tell me what you think.
[Budred] Sunday, January 31, 2010 12:12:30 PM
Hmmm...
Just wondering. Did you ever think about whether Priest has achieved the kind of success
that they deserve. They have sold millions of records and still draw large crowds to their shows.
They still have a career some 40 years later. Unheard of in the music world except for a select few.
They are getting closer to the end. Do you think they hold their respective position among the
musical heirarchy, or do you think they deserve more. Tell me what you think.
[Budred] Sunday, January 31, 2010 9:44:12 AM
The great thing about this is that it's just opinion. Everyone has one and they only matter to them.
I surely do not want to argue anyone's point(pro or con). All I know is that I love Judas Priest and
was dying to hear something from them. Their breakup crushed me. When I heard Jugulator I was
quite disappointed. After giving it a chance it was my opinion that it wasn't the music as much
as the production.(poor sound quality) I went to see them live and it sounded as bad as the album. I
was starting to think this was the end of Priest. When they released Demolition I bought it out of
support for the band. After giving it a listen the first thing I noticed was much better production. After
several listens I started liking it. I think it's pretty heavy. It may be a little different for Priest but that's
the great thing about Priest. Ever evolving, always different each time out. When I saw them live Ripper
fit in so much better than the first time. I ended up seeing them four times on that tour. Pittsburgh, Akron,
Cleveland, and Columbus. I took friends who had never seen Priest and they loved it. Also just watching
the crowd response(and size) made me feel pretty good. Was it Halford Priest? Of course not. But it was
still the Priest. Scott still pounding the drums, K.K. and Glennstill shredding the guitars, Ian was still
the backbone. And Ripper did just fine on vocals. Buy Live in London and listen to him do Diamonds and
Rust. It may rival Rob's version. I am much happier with Rob in the band but I was equally as glad to just
have Priest doing something again. Peace
[Head banger] Saturday, January 30, 2010 9:24:48 PM
your right, its about making music and money. but the spin off was keeping the name out there.
my thoughts on aerosmith is they should have never formed to begin with. but I have no problem with Van hagar. hell the band is named for Eddie. (bands named after one or 2 members annoy me just on principle though, its a colaboration of all the members)
My thought is the name should lie with the majority of members. GNR, they are dead. Axle does ok on the current tour, but its not GNR with 8 guys on stage, and only one was around when they did Apetite.
Black sabath now is different, as they have had more people thru the band than most concert halls have had thru the front door.
your right, many fans left and came back on board when Rob came back. just imagine what would have happened if they had put our AOR in 1993/4?
Ratt??? think they can sell now? mind you they were never at the level JP was at.
Have you heard Ripper with Chared walls of the damned? [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, January 30, 2010 3:16:13 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
So your thoughts about Aeorsmith? Van Hagar? IMO, it has nothing with keeping their name out there rather they wanted to keep making music (and money). I, for one of many, also think Van Hagar should have changed the name when DLR left. It was NOT the same band. Same will be with Aeorsmith and a number of others that I could mention.
I know of not a single friend that was a JP fan that followed the Ripper era. It was only when Halford re-emerged that we (well, I who inspired friends) all started to jump back on the JP wagon. Ratt is coming back together, Deep Purple after X years in the Perfect Strangers tour. Think THAT had to do with name recognition? Van Halen was a sold out concert last tour. Hagar hates them and Michael A. left. Still, no effect.
The music stands on its own. Halford was a vital part of the band. Same as the above bands I mentioned. Remember that you are talking to a DIEHARD JP fan here. I have quit jobs to follow them for complete seasons. Just never into the Ripper era, I guess....to me, it will never be Priest.
(sadly, same goes for my feelings of Ripper in Iced Earth. Great singer but just has not found his proper outlet)
Head banger wrote:
might have. then again if the name JP disapeared for 14 odd years and then resurfaced they would need a beter publicity machine to get onto any kind of tour. How anvil managed anything is beyond me.
guidogodoy wrote:
I argue that it lost many more.
Head banger wrote:
yes its conjecture, I havent got my time machine perfected yet to be able to play out multiple scenarios yet.
the music may be different, but it grabed a few new fans. dunno.
guidogodoy wrote:
That is pure conjecture. They certainly could have mounted a comeback.
Neither here nor there, really. I just didn't like either album. NOT Priest, as far as I was concerned. "Halford," on the other hand, was something that shook me to my soul.
Head banger wrote:
the style and such was different, but without hiring a singer, the band would have died. Priest could not have been dead for 10+ years and mounted any kind of comeback.
Deep Freeze wrote:
Well said, indeed...HOWEVER, I beg to differ. Allow me;
While I do understand that the Band wanted to continue, play, compose, make a living, etc.....I do not agree that the music was "true" or "classic" Priest. Now, I don't blame Owens for that. I mean, as you said, he was just an employee. A singer-for-hire, if you will (as far as WE know). My problem lies with the musical direction. As I have said before, I do not think it was anything like the classic, melodic Priest which we all so know and love.
Yes, the sound was "heavy". In fact, it was far TOO heavy for me. Much more like a contemporary Metal sound than an "old school" sound. As for seeing them live, my wife (at the time) worked security for a show here at the Hard Rock in Vegas and she said that it was like "watching a Priest Cover Band." It did not have the same look, feel or sound of Priest.
I do not like Jugulator or Demolition. I have a few of the songs (through the Metalogy set) and I do not care for them at all. I have heard all the others and I feel the same way. Are they well done? Sure. Are they "heavy"? Absolutely. Are they true Priest? I do not think so. They lack the classic melody that I look for in a Priest song. I have nothing against Owens. He is a great vocalist and has done well for himself since. I do not "criticize" him, as he was just singing. I was not there when he was hired, nor was I involved with the Band on an intimate level so I have NO idea what they said to him or made him do. I believe all of that is conjecture.
When I compare AoR to Demolition or Jugulator, there is no comparison..for me. None. There is no comparison to ANY Priest album and those two. They were a completely different band, as far as I am concerned and AoR proves my point. All it took was bringing Rob back to find what was missing. How that was done is not important to me. Only that it happened.
Budred wrote:
Ripper bashing makes me go hmmmm...
Do Priest fans not realize that there was an 8 year gap between albums. They were going nowhere.
Then (THEY) discovered Ripper. Rob wasn't coming back and for us and them they had to do something.
Some seem to think Ripper tried too hard to copy Rob but Priest actually dictated that. They chose his wardrobe,
his singing style and so on. Ripper was an employee of Priest. As far as the musical direction Priest has
always evolved their sound so as not to sound the same each time out. In my mind the only problem with Jugulator
was the production more so than the music. I think they corrected that with Demolition. To me there are some
very heavy songs on that record. Lastly if anyone saw Priest on the Demolition tour(I did 4 times) they were as tight and great
sounding as ever. Ripper kept the Priest going. Praise him don't criticize him. Just my opinion, only matters to me.
PEACE!
[J.D. DIAMOND] Saturday, January 30, 2010 4:32:13 PM
In 1997 when Jugulator was released,I didn't know of any friends that were JP fans that followed the Ripper era either Guido.I knew Jugulator was coming out about 8 months before it hit the shelves and I actually like the Jugulator album,its not as good as Rob singing of course,but I thought it had a few good tracks on it,the 3 I don't like are Death Row,Burn In Hell and Abductors.The rest is tollerable. It may not be "Priest" but it was an ok heavy metal record.
The album I HATE is Demolition.YUK.
Or Iced Earth,thier first 2 albums are classics and I would recomend any heavy metal fan to buy Iced Earth debut,and Night Of The Storm Rider....both classic LPs and GREAT heavy metal music,but every single album after the first 2 just went off the map for me including Ripper Owens,he just didn't fit but its not his fault,the music in Iced Earth changed after the first 2 albums.
Had they kept the style of those first 2 albums then Ripper could of fit in there,but the albums that he sings on is too symphonic and epic...Iced Earth switched over to a style like Blind Guardian,Gamma Ray and Hammerfall,ridiculously too epic and too symphonic...just a mess. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, January 30, 2010 3:16:13 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
So your thoughts about Aeorsmith? Van Hagar? IMO, it has nothing with keeping their name out there rather they wanted to keep making music (and money). I, for one of many, also think Van Hagar should have changed the name when DLR left. It was NOT the same band. Same will be with Aeorsmith and a number of others that I could mention.
I know of not a single friend that was a JP fan that followed the Ripper era. It was only when Halford re-emerged that we (well, I who inspired friends) all started to jump back on the JP wagon. Ratt is coming back together, Deep Purple after X years in the Perfect Strangers tour. Think THAT had to do with name recognition? Van Halen was a sold out concert last tour. Hagar hates them and Michael A. left. Still, no effect.
The music stands on its own. Halford was a vital part of the band. Same as the above bands I mentioned. Remember that you are talking to a DIEHARD JP fan here. I have quit jobs to follow them for complete seasons. Just never into the Ripper era, I guess....to me, it will never be Priest.
(sadly, same goes for my feelings of Ripper in Iced Earth. Great singer but just has not found his proper outlet)
Head banger wrote:
might have. then again if the name JP disapeared for 14 odd years and then resurfaced they would need a beter publicity machine to get onto any kind of tour. How anvil managed anything is beyond me.
guidogodoy wrote:
I argue that it lost many more.
Head banger wrote:
yes its conjecture, I havent got my time machine perfected yet to be able to play out multiple scenarios yet.
the music may be different, but it grabed a few new fans. dunno.
guidogodoy wrote:
That is pure conjecture. They certainly could have mounted a comeback.
Neither here nor there, really. I just didn't like either album. NOT Priest, as far as I was concerned. "Halford," on the other hand, was something that shook me to my soul.
Head banger wrote:
the style and such was different, but without hiring a singer, the band would have died. Priest could not have been dead for 10+ years and mounted any kind of comeback.
Deep Freeze wrote:
Well said, indeed...HOWEVER, I beg to differ. Allow me;
While I do understand that the Band wanted to continue, play, compose, make a living, etc.....I do not agree that the music was "true" or "classic" Priest. Now, I don't blame Owens for that. I mean, as you said, he was just an employee. A singer-for-hire, if you will (as far as WE know). My problem lies with the musical direction. As I have said before, I do not think it was anything like the classic, melodic Priest which we all so know and love.
Yes, the sound was "heavy". In fact, it was far TOO heavy for me. Much more like a contemporary Metal sound than an "old school" sound. As for seeing them live, my wife (at the time) worked security for a show here at the Hard Rock in Vegas and she said that it was like "watching a Priest Cover Band." It did not have the same look, feel or sound of Priest.
I do not like Jugulator or Demolition. I have a few of the songs (through the Metalogy set) and I do not care for them at all. I have heard all the others and I feel the same way. Are they well done? Sure. Are they "heavy"? Absolutely. Are they true Priest? I do not think so. They lack the classic melody that I look for in a Priest song. I have nothing against Owens. He is a great vocalist and has done well for himself since. I do not "criticize" him, as he was just singing. I was not there when he was hired, nor was I involved with the Band on an intimate level so I have NO idea what they said to him or made him do. I believe all of that is conjecture.
When I compare AoR to Demolition or Jugulator, there is no comparison..for me. None. There is no comparison to ANY Priest album and those two. They were a completely different band, as far as I am concerned and AoR proves my point. All it took was bringing Rob back to find what was missing. How that was done is not important to me. Only that it happened.
Budred wrote:
Ripper bashing makes me go hmmmm...
Do Priest fans not realize that there was an 8 year gap between albums. They were going nowhere.
Then (THEY) discovered Ripper. Rob wasn't coming back and for us and them they had to do something.
Some seem to think Ripper tried too hard to copy Rob but Priest actually dictated that. They chose his wardrobe,
his singing style and so on. Ripper was an employee of Priest. As far as the musical direction Priest has
always evolved their sound so as not to sound the same each time out. In my mind the only problem with Jugulator
was the production more so than the music. I think they corrected that with Demolition. To me there are some
very heavy songs on that record. Lastly if anyone saw Priest on the Demolition tour(I did 4 times) they were as tight and great
sounding as ever. Ripper kept the Priest going. Praise him don't criticize him. Just my opinion, only matters to me.
PEACE!
[guidogodoy] Saturday, January 30, 2010 3:16:13 PM
So your thoughts about Aeorsmith? Van Hagar? IMO, it has nothing with keeping their name out there rather they wanted to keep making music (and money). I, for one of many, also think Van Hagar should have changed the name when DLR left. It was NOT the same band. Same will be with Aeorsmith and a number of others that I could mention.
I know of not a single friend that was a JP fan that followed the Ripper era. It was only when Halford re-emerged that we (well, I who inspired friends) all started to jump back on the JP wagon. Ratt is coming back together, Deep Purple after X years in the Perfect Strangers tour. Think THAT had to do with name recognition? Van Halen was a sold out concert last tour. Hagar hates them and Michael A. left. Still, no effect.
The music stands on its own. Halford was a vital part of the band. Same as the above bands I mentioned. Remember that you are talking to a DIEHARD JP fan here. I have quit jobs to follow them for complete seasons. Just never into the Ripper era, I guess....to me, it will never be Priest.
(sadly, same goes for my feelings of Ripper in Iced Earth. Great singer but just has not found his proper outlet) [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Head banger from Saturday, January 30, 2010 2:22:38 PM)
Head banger wrote:
might have. then again if the name JP disapeared for 14 odd years and then resurfaced they would need a beter publicity machine to get onto any kind of tour. How anvil managed anything is beyond me.
guidogodoy wrote:
I argue that it lost many more.
Head banger wrote:
yes its conjecture, I havent got my time machine perfected yet to be able to play out multiple scenarios yet.
the music may be different, but it grabed a few new fans. dunno.
guidogodoy wrote:
That is pure conjecture. They certainly could have mounted a comeback.
Neither here nor there, really. I just didn't like either album. NOT Priest, as far as I was concerned. "Halford," on the other hand, was something that shook me to my soul.
Head banger wrote:
the style and such was different, but without hiring a singer, the band would have died. Priest could not have been dead for 10+ years and mounted any kind of comeback.
Deep Freeze wrote:
Well said, indeed...HOWEVER, I beg to differ. Allow me;
While I do understand that the Band wanted to continue, play, compose, make a living, etc.....I do not agree that the music was "true" or "classic" Priest. Now, I don't blame Owens for that. I mean, as you said, he was just an employee. A singer-for-hire, if you will (as far as WE know). My problem lies with the musical direction. As I have said before, I do not think it was anything like the classic, melodic Priest which we all so know and love.
Yes, the sound was "heavy". In fact, it was far TOO heavy for me. Much more like a contemporary Metal sound than an "old school" sound. As for seeing them live, my wife (at the time) worked security for a show here at the Hard Rock in Vegas and she said that it was like "watching a Priest Cover Band." It did not have the same look, feel or sound of Priest.
I do not like Jugulator or Demolition. I have a few of the songs (through the Metalogy set) and I do not care for them at all. I have heard all the others and I feel the same way. Are they well done? Sure. Are they "heavy"? Absolutely. Are they true Priest? I do not think so. They lack the classic melody that I look for in a Priest song. I have nothing against Owens. He is a great vocalist and has done well for himself since. I do not "criticize" him, as he was just singing. I was not there when he was hired, nor was I involved with the Band on an intimate level so I have NO idea what they said to him or made him do. I believe all of that is conjecture.
When I compare AoR to Demolition or Jugulator, there is no comparison..for me. None. There is no comparison to ANY Priest album and those two. They were a completely different band, as far as I am concerned and AoR proves my point. All it took was bringing Rob back to find what was missing. How that was done is not important to me. Only that it happened.
Budred wrote:
Ripper bashing makes me go hmmmm...
Do Priest fans not realize that there was an 8 year gap between albums. They were going nowhere.
Then (THEY) discovered Ripper. Rob wasn't coming back and for us and them they had to do something.
Some seem to think Ripper tried too hard to copy Rob but Priest actually dictated that. They chose his wardrobe,
his singing style and so on. Ripper was an employee of Priest. As far as the musical direction Priest has
always evolved their sound so as not to sound the same each time out. In my mind the only problem with Jugulator
was the production more so than the music. I think they corrected that with Demolition. To me there are some
very heavy songs on that record. Lastly if anyone saw Priest on the Demolition tour(I did 4 times) they were as tight and great
sounding as ever. Ripper kept the Priest going. Praise him don't criticize him. Just my opinion, only matters to me.
PEACE!
[Head banger] Saturday, January 30, 2010 2:22:38 PM
might have. then again if the name JP disapeared for 14 odd years and then resurfaced they would need a beter publicity machine to get onto any kind of tour. How anvil managed anything is beyond me. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, January 30, 2010 12:22:18 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
I argue that it lost many more.
Head banger wrote:
yes its conjecture, I havent got my time machine perfected yet to be able to play out multiple scenarios yet.
the music may be different, but it grabed a few new fans. dunno.
guidogodoy wrote:
That is pure conjecture. They certainly could have mounted a comeback.
Neither here nor there, really. I just didn't like either album. NOT Priest, as far as I was concerned. "Halford," on the other hand, was something that shook me to my soul.
Head banger wrote:
the style and such was different, but without hiring a singer, the band would have died. Priest could not have been dead for 10+ years and mounted any kind of comeback.
Deep Freeze wrote:
Well said, indeed...HOWEVER, I beg to differ. Allow me;
While I do understand that the Band wanted to continue, play, compose, make a living, etc.....I do not agree that the music was "true" or "classic" Priest. Now, I don't blame Owens for that. I mean, as you said, he was just an employee. A singer-for-hire, if you will (as far as WE know). My problem lies with the musical direction. As I have said before, I do not think it was anything like the classic, melodic Priest which we all so know and love.
Yes, the sound was "heavy". In fact, it was far TOO heavy for me. Much more like a contemporary Metal sound than an "old school" sound. As for seeing them live, my wife (at the time) worked security for a show here at the Hard Rock in Vegas and she said that it was like "watching a Priest Cover Band." It did not have the same look, feel or sound of Priest.
I do not like Jugulator or Demolition. I have a few of the songs (through the Metalogy set) and I do not care for them at all. I have heard all the others and I feel the same way. Are they well done? Sure. Are they "heavy"? Absolutely. Are they true Priest? I do not think so. They lack the classic melody that I look for in a Priest song. I have nothing against Owens. He is a great vocalist and has done well for himself since. I do not "criticize" him, as he was just singing. I was not there when he was hired, nor was I involved with the Band on an intimate level so I have NO idea what they said to him or made him do. I believe all of that is conjecture.
When I compare AoR to Demolition or Jugulator, there is no comparison..for me. None. There is no comparison to ANY Priest album and those two. They were a completely different band, as far as I am concerned and AoR proves my point. All it took was bringing Rob back to find what was missing. How that was done is not important to me. Only that it happened.
Budred wrote:
Ripper bashing makes me go hmmmm...
Do Priest fans not realize that there was an 8 year gap between albums. They were going nowhere.
Then (THEY) discovered Ripper. Rob wasn't coming back and for us and them they had to do something.
Some seem to think Ripper tried too hard to copy Rob but Priest actually dictated that. They chose his wardrobe,
his singing style and so on. Ripper was an employee of Priest. As far as the musical direction Priest has
always evolved their sound so as not to sound the same each time out. In my mind the only problem with Jugulator
was the production more so than the music. I think they corrected that with Demolition. To me there are some
very heavy songs on that record. Lastly if anyone saw Priest on the Demolition tour(I did 4 times) they were as tight and great
sounding as ever. Ripper kept the Priest going. Praise him don't criticize him. Just my opinion, only matters to me.
PEACE!
[guidogodoy] Saturday, January 30, 2010 12:22:18 PM
I argue that it lost many more. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Head banger from Saturday, January 30, 2010 12:08:55 PM)
Head banger wrote:
yes its conjecture, I havent got my time machine perfected yet to be able to play out multiple scenarios yet.
the music may be different, but it grabed a few new fans. dunno.
guidogodoy wrote:
That is pure conjecture. They certainly could have mounted a comeback.
Neither here nor there, really. I just didn't like either album. NOT Priest, as far as I was concerned. "Halford," on the other hand, was something that shook me to my soul.
Head banger wrote:
the style and such was different, but without hiring a singer, the band would have died. Priest could not have been dead for 10+ years and mounted any kind of comeback.
Deep Freeze wrote:
Well said, indeed...HOWEVER, I beg to differ. Allow me;
While I do understand that the Band wanted to continue, play, compose, make a living, etc.....I do not agree that the music was "true" or "classic" Priest. Now, I don't blame Owens for that. I mean, as you said, he was just an employee. A singer-for-hire, if you will (as far as WE know). My problem lies with the musical direction. As I have said before, I do not think it was anything like the classic, melodic Priest which we all so know and love.
Yes, the sound was "heavy". In fact, it was far TOO heavy for me. Much more like a contemporary Metal sound than an "old school" sound. As for seeing them live, my wife (at the time) worked security for a show here at the Hard Rock in Vegas and she said that it was like "watching a Priest Cover Band." It did not have the same look, feel or sound of Priest.
I do not like Jugulator or Demolition. I have a few of the songs (through the Metalogy set) and I do not care for them at all. I have heard all the others and I feel the same way. Are they well done? Sure. Are they "heavy"? Absolutely. Are they true Priest? I do not think so. They lack the classic melody that I look for in a Priest song. I have nothing against Owens. He is a great vocalist and has done well for himself since. I do not "criticize" him, as he was just singing. I was not there when he was hired, nor was I involved with the Band on an intimate level so I have NO idea what they said to him or made him do. I believe all of that is conjecture.
When I compare AoR to Demolition or Jugulator, there is no comparison..for me. None. There is no comparison to ANY Priest album and those two. They were a completely different band, as far as I am concerned and AoR proves my point. All it took was bringing Rob back to find what was missing. How that was done is not important to me. Only that it happened.
Budred wrote:
Ripper bashing makes me go hmmmm...
Do Priest fans not realize that there was an 8 year gap between albums. They were going nowhere.
Then (THEY) discovered Ripper. Rob wasn't coming back and for us and them they had to do something.
Some seem to think Ripper tried too hard to copy Rob but Priest actually dictated that. They chose his wardrobe,
his singing style and so on. Ripper was an employee of Priest. As far as the musical direction Priest has
always evolved their sound so as not to sound the same each time out. In my mind the only problem with Jugulator
was the production more so than the music. I think they corrected that with Demolition. To me there are some
very heavy songs on that record. Lastly if anyone saw Priest on the Demolition tour(I did 4 times) they were as tight and great
sounding as ever. Ripper kept the Priest going. Praise him don't criticize him. Just my opinion, only matters to me.
PEACE!
[Deep Freeze] Saturday, January 30, 2010 12:17:48 PM
Good point. It did grab a lot of fans. Still does, as evidenced by our pal "Numero Uno". It is not "bad" music at all. It is very good. It is just not what I look for in PRIEST music. It sounds like another band to me, that's all. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Head banger from Saturday, January 30, 2010 12:08:55 PM)
Head banger wrote:
yes its conjecture, I havent got my time machine perfected yet to be able to play out multiple scenarios yet.
the music may be different, but it grabed a few new fans. dunno.
guidogodoy wrote:
That is pure conjecture. They certainly could have mounted a comeback.
Neither here nor there, really. I just didn't like either album. NOT Priest, as far as I was concerned. "Halford," on the other hand, was something that shook me to my soul.
Head banger wrote:
the style and such was different, but without hiring a singer, the band would have died. Priest could not have been dead for 10+ years and mounted any kind of comeback.
Deep Freeze wrote:
Well said, indeed...HOWEVER, I beg to differ. Allow me;
While I do understand that the Band wanted to continue, play, compose, make a living, etc.....I do not agree that the music was "true" or "classic" Priest. Now, I don't blame Owens for that. I mean, as you said, he was just an employee. A singer-for-hire, if you will (as far as WE know). My problem lies with the musical direction. As I have said before, I do not think it was anything like the classic, melodic Priest which we all so know and love.
Yes, the sound was "heavy". In fact, it was far TOO heavy for me. Much more like a contemporary Metal sound than an "old school" sound. As for seeing them live, my wife (at the time) worked security for a show here at the Hard Rock in Vegas and she said that it was like "watching a Priest Cover Band." It did not have the same look, feel or sound of Priest.
I do not like Jugulator or Demolition. I have a few of the songs (through the Metalogy set) and I do not care for them at all. I have heard all the others and I feel the same way. Are they well done? Sure. Are they "heavy"? Absolutely. Are they true Priest? I do not think so. They lack the classic melody that I look for in a Priest song. I have nothing against Owens. He is a great vocalist and has done well for himself since. I do not "criticize" him, as he was just singing. I was not there when he was hired, nor was I involved with the Band on an intimate level so I have NO idea what they said to him or made him do. I believe all of that is conjecture.
When I compare AoR to Demolition or Jugulator, there is no comparison..for me. None. There is no comparison to ANY Priest album and those two. They were a completely different band, as far as I am concerned and AoR proves my point. All it took was bringing Rob back to find what was missing. How that was done is not important to me. Only that it happened.
Budred wrote:
Ripper bashing makes me go hmmmm...
Do Priest fans not realize that there was an 8 year gap between albums. They were going nowhere.
Then (THEY) discovered Ripper. Rob wasn't coming back and for us and them they had to do something.
Some seem to think Ripper tried too hard to copy Rob but Priest actually dictated that. They chose his wardrobe,
his singing style and so on. Ripper was an employee of Priest. As far as the musical direction Priest has
always evolved their sound so as not to sound the same each time out. In my mind the only problem with Jugulator
was the production more so than the music. I think they corrected that with Demolition. To me there are some
very heavy songs on that record. Lastly if anyone saw Priest on the Demolition tour(I did 4 times) they were as tight and great
sounding as ever. Ripper kept the Priest going. Praise him don't criticize him. Just my opinion, only matters to me.
PEACE!
[Head banger] Saturday, January 30, 2010 12:08:55 PM
yes its conjecture, I havent got my time machine perfected yet to be able to play out multiple scenarios yet.
the music may be different, but it grabed a few new fans. dunno.
That is pure conjecture. They certainly could have mounted a comeback.
Neither here nor there, really. I just didn't like either album. NOT Priest, as far as I was concerned. "Halford," on the other hand, was something that shook me to my soul.
Head banger wrote:
the style and such was different, but without hiring a singer, the band would have died. Priest could not have been dead for 10+ years and mounted any kind of comeback.
Deep Freeze wrote:
Well said, indeed...HOWEVER, I beg to differ. Allow me;
While I do understand that the Band wanted to continue, play, compose, make a living, etc.....I do not agree that the music was "true" or "classic" Priest. Now, I don't blame Owens for that. I mean, as you said, he was just an employee. A singer-for-hire, if you will (as far as WE know). My problem lies with the musical direction. As I have said before, I do not think it was anything like the classic, melodic Priest which we all so know and love.
Yes, the sound was "heavy". In fact, it was far TOO heavy for me. Much more like a contemporary Metal sound than an "old school" sound. As for seeing them live, my wife (at the time) worked security for a show here at the Hard Rock in Vegas and she said that it was like "watching a Priest Cover Band." It did not have the same look, feel or sound of Priest.
I do not like Jugulator or Demolition. I have a few of the songs (through the Metalogy set) and I do not care for them at all. I have heard all the others and I feel the same way. Are they well done? Sure. Are they "heavy"? Absolutely. Are they true Priest? I do not think so. They lack the classic melody that I look for in a Priest song. I have nothing against Owens. He is a great vocalist and has done well for himself since. I do not "criticize" him, as he was just singing. I was not there when he was hired, nor was I involved with the Band on an intimate level so I have NO idea what they said to him or made him do. I believe all of that is conjecture.
When I compare AoR to Demolition or Jugulator, there is no comparison..for me. None. There is no comparison to ANY Priest album and those two. They were a completely different band, as far as I am concerned and AoR proves my point. All it took was bringing Rob back to find what was missing. How that was done is not important to me. Only that it happened.
Budred wrote:
Ripper bashing makes me go hmmmm...
Do Priest fans not realize that there was an 8 year gap between albums. They were going nowhere.
Then (THEY) discovered Ripper. Rob wasn't coming back and for us and them they had to do something.
Some seem to think Ripper tried too hard to copy Rob but Priest actually dictated that. They chose his wardrobe,
his singing style and so on. Ripper was an employee of Priest. As far as the musical direction Priest has
always evolved their sound so as not to sound the same each time out. In my mind the only problem with Jugulator
was the production more so than the music. I think they corrected that with Demolition. To me there are some
very heavy songs on that record. Lastly if anyone saw Priest on the Demolition tour(I did 4 times) they were as tight and great
sounding as ever. Ripper kept the Priest going. Praise him don't criticize him. Just my opinion, only matters to me.
PEACE!
[guidogodoy] Saturday, January 30, 2010 11:22:15 AM
That is pure conjecture. They certainly could have mounted a comeback.
Neither here nor there, really. I just didn't like either album. NOT Priest, as far as I was concerned. "Halford," on the other hand, was something that shook me to my soul. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Head banger from Saturday, January 30, 2010 11:11:18 AM)
Head banger wrote:
the style and such was different, but without hiring a singer, the band would have died. Priest could not have been dead for 10+ years and mounted any kind of comeback.
Deep Freeze wrote:
Well said, indeed...HOWEVER, I beg to differ. Allow me;
While I do understand that the Band wanted to continue, play, compose, make a living, etc.....I do not agree that the music was "true" or "classic" Priest. Now, I don't blame Owens for that. I mean, as you said, he was just an employee. A singer-for-hire, if you will (as far as WE know). My problem lies with the musical direction. As I have said before, I do not think it was anything like the classic, melodic Priest which we all so know and love.
Yes, the sound was "heavy". In fact, it was far TOO heavy for me. Much more like a contemporary Metal sound than an "old school" sound. As for seeing them live, my wife (at the time) worked security for a show here at the Hard Rock in Vegas and she said that it was like "watching a Priest Cover Band." It did not have the same look, feel or sound of Priest.
I do not like Jugulator or Demolition. I have a few of the songs (through the Metalogy set) and I do not care for them at all. I have heard all the others and I feel the same way. Are they well done? Sure. Are they "heavy"? Absolutely. Are they true Priest? I do not think so. They lack the classic melody that I look for in a Priest song. I have nothing against Owens. He is a great vocalist and has done well for himself since. I do not "criticize" him, as he was just singing. I was not there when he was hired, nor was I involved with the Band on an intimate level so I have NO idea what they said to him or made him do. I believe all of that is conjecture.
When I compare AoR to Demolition or Jugulator, there is no comparison..for me. None. There is no comparison to ANY Priest album and those two. They were a completely different band, as far as I am concerned and AoR proves my point. All it took was bringing Rob back to find what was missing. How that was done is not important to me. Only that it happened.
Budred wrote:
Ripper bashing makes me go hmmmm...
Do Priest fans not realize that there was an 8 year gap between albums. They were going nowhere.
Then (THEY) discovered Ripper. Rob wasn't coming back and for us and them they had to do something.
Some seem to think Ripper tried too hard to copy Rob but Priest actually dictated that. They chose his wardrobe,
his singing style and so on. Ripper was an employee of Priest. As far as the musical direction Priest has
always evolved their sound so as not to sound the same each time out. In my mind the only problem with Jugulator
was the production more so than the music. I think they corrected that with Demolition. To me there are some
very heavy songs on that record. Lastly if anyone saw Priest on the Demolition tour(I did 4 times) they were as tight and great
sounding as ever. Ripper kept the Priest going. Praise him don't criticize him. Just my opinion, only matters to me.
PEACE!
[Deep Freeze] Saturday, January 30, 2010 11:19:25 AM
You may very well be right, HB. I don't know. I mean, there are bands that have "faded away" from the spotlight and yet managed to mount a comeback. I don't blame Priest for continuing without Rob. Like I said, they did what they had to do to remain active. My point is, the music was NOT Priest. Not for me. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Head banger from Saturday, January 30, 2010 11:11:18 AM)
Head banger wrote:
the style and such was different, but without hiring a singer, the band would have died. Priest could not have been dead for 10+ years and mounted any kind of comeback.
Deep Freeze wrote:
Well said, indeed...HOWEVER, I beg to differ. Allow me;
While I do understand that the Band wanted to continue, play, compose, make a living, etc.....I do not agree that the music was "true" or "classic" Priest. Now, I don't blame Owens for that. I mean, as you said, he was just an employee. A singer-for-hire, if you will (as far as WE know). My problem lies with the musical direction. As I have said before, I do not think it was anything like the classic, melodic Priest which we all so know and love.
Yes, the sound was "heavy". In fact, it was far TOO heavy for me. Much more like a contemporary Metal sound than an "old school" sound. As for seeing them live, my wife (at the time) worked security for a show here at the Hard Rock in Vegas and she said that it was like "watching a Priest Cover Band." It did not have the same look, feel or sound of Priest.
I do not like Jugulator or Demolition. I have a few of the songs (through the Metalogy set) and I do not care for them at all. I have heard all the others and I feel the same way. Are they well done? Sure. Are they "heavy"? Absolutely. Are they true Priest? I do not think so. They lack the classic melody that I look for in a Priest song. I have nothing against Owens. He is a great vocalist and has done well for himself since. I do not "criticize" him, as he was just singing. I was not there when he was hired, nor was I involved with the Band on an intimate level so I have NO idea what they said to him or made him do. I believe all of that is conjecture.
When I compare AoR to Demolition or Jugulator, there is no comparison..for me. None. There is no comparison to ANY Priest album and those two. They were a completely different band, as far as I am concerned and AoR proves my point. All it took was bringing Rob back to find what was missing. How that was done is not important to me. Only that it happened.
Budred wrote:
Ripper bashing makes me go hmmmm...
Do Priest fans not realize that there was an 8 year gap between albums. They were going nowhere.
Then (THEY) discovered Ripper. Rob wasn't coming back and for us and them they had to do something.
Some seem to think Ripper tried too hard to copy Rob but Priest actually dictated that. They chose his wardrobe,
his singing style and so on. Ripper was an employee of Priest. As far as the musical direction Priest has
always evolved their sound so as not to sound the same each time out. In my mind the only problem with Jugulator
was the production more so than the music. I think they corrected that with Demolition. To me there are some
very heavy songs on that record. Lastly if anyone saw Priest on the Demolition tour(I did 4 times) they were as tight and great
sounding as ever. Ripper kept the Priest going. Praise him don't criticize him. Just my opinion, only matters to me.