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[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Phantom A6 from Friday, April 01, 2011 9:42:58 AM)| |  | Phantom A6 wrote: | | Don't be confused 'Cause of a post by Brian "The Brain" Evans.
| | | Budred wrote: | | ....Uh', I mean "my (posts)".
I'm pretty sure I didn't say anything that should have been banned. I've written far worse in the past.
I don't care, I'm just confused.
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| [You Don't Know What It's Like!] Monday, September 26, 2011 12:39:21 PM | |
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Gotta go with "Rocka Rolla" for this one.
How many times does this album get overlooked & yet when you listen to it there's some really good stuff.
One For The Road is a solid starter, Rocka Rolla is a pretty damn catchy single, Cheater is an excellent little rocker, Never Satisfied is an absolutely underrated Priest classic (now given some true exposure on the Epitaph tour) as is the mighty 8 minute epic that is Run Of The Mill, and even Caviar & Meths is a beautifully played throw-away.
For me The Winter Suite & Dying To Meet You(/Hero Hero) are the weakest tracks, but I can still listen to them with ease.
I've heard many a mention about the poor production, and yes there is an audible hiss, but aside from that I think the sound is just fine, especially for 1974. It's not metal, obviously, but for a debut album, by a band finding it's way it's a definate blues-y in places, rock classic!
There's even a heavier version of Diamonds & Rust on the CD, which certainly rivals the "Sin After Sin" version (& yes, I know it's technically from the "Sad Wings..." sessions).
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| [polaxis] Monday, September 26, 2011 12:38:52 AM | |
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| [Crista] Thursday, September 08, 2011 10:35:22 AM | |
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Sin After Sin. I love it, I love Priest '70 revolution, I love Simon Phillips. It should be way preferred to British Steel, imho.
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| [Budred] Friday, April 01, 2011 9:09:20 PM | |
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It's not Brian's post, it's thinking about what I posted that got banned that confuses me. Some of the stupid
shit I've said to Jimmy is still up but that got banned. (???)
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Phantom A6 from Friday, April 01, 2011 9:42:58 AM)| | | Phantom A6 wrote: | | Don't be confused 'Cause of a post by Brian "The Brain" Evans.
| | | Budred wrote: | | ....Uh', I mean "my (posts)".
I'm pretty sure I didn't say anything that should have been banned. I've written far worse in the past.
I don't care, I'm just confused.
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| [Fitz] Friday, April 01, 2011 1:39:40 PM | |
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| Point of Entry was the first tour I saw live and is one of the best overall i think. I love all Preist music with Halford singing. |
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| [Phantom A6] Friday, April 01, 2011 9:42:58 AM | |
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Don't be confused 'Cause of a post by Brian "The Brain" Evans.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Budred from Friday, April 01, 2011 6:17:20 AM)| | | Budred wrote: | | ....Uh', I mean "my (posts)".
I'm pretty sure I didn't say anything that should have been banned. I've written far worse in the past.
I don't care, I'm just confused.
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| [Budred] Friday, April 01, 2011 6:17:20 AM | |
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....Uh', I mean "my (posts)".
I'm pretty sure I didn't say anything that should have been banned. I've written far worse in the past.
I don't care, I'm just confused.
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| [Brian_Evans] Thursday, March 31, 2011 11:15:57 PM | |
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I like Lochness also, it has a killer guitar riff. I think they should open their show with it and have a huge Lochness monster rising behind them ...or maybe Rob Halford could wear a Loch Ness Monster suit ...lmao ..just kidding about the monster stuff but that track is cool. [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by metalgodess from Thursday, March 31, 2011 7:54:11 PM)
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AOR....Is there anybody out there who thinks LOCHNESS rocks??? Other than me????
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Except Loch Ness it was perfect.
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| [Budred] Thursday, March 31, 2011 8:49:27 PM | |
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Banned???
Since christmas my poste have been tempered. |
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| [Head banger] Thursday, March 31, 2011 7:54:52 PM | |
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dont think so.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by metalgodess from Thursday, March 31, 2011 7:54:11 PM)| | | metalgodess wrote: | | AOR....Is there anybody out there who thinks LOCHNESS rocks??? Other than me????
| | | spapad wrote: | | Except Loch Ness it was perfect.
| | | rssparks wrote: | | | angel of retribution.......people always give props to the classic stuff, and rightfully so, but dont hear much about this album anymore, and i think top to bottom it is nearly perfect |
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| [metalgodess] Thursday, March 31, 2011 7:54:11 PM | |
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AOR....Is there anybody out there who thinks LOCHNESS rocks??? Other than me????
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Wednesday, March 16, 2011 10:37:55 PM)| | | spapad wrote: | | Except Loch Ness it was perfect.
| | | rssparks wrote: | | | angel of retribution.......people always give props to the classic stuff, and rightfully so, but dont hear much about this album anymore, and i think top to bottom it is nearly perfect |
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| [Brian_Evans] Thursday, March 31, 2011 5:50:28 PM | |
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| Hey Budred and Jimmy, what did you guys do to get your post banned in here? lol |
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| [guitardude] Saturday, March 19, 2011 5:37:13 PM | |
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JD, I agree with you, even thought I had originally said "Hell Bent for Leather", I tend to think to of the bands older material when asked about anything covering their history. I play something off of "AoR" nearly everytime I`m in my car, truck or on my bike!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Thursday, March 17, 2011 6:17:26 AM)| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | I agree 100% as everybody already knows. While not the very best Priest album,Angel Of Retribution is the most underrated LP in the band's history,but not by far....a few others are right there too...
| | | rssparks wrote: | | | angel of retribution.......people always give props to the classic stuff, and rightfully so, but dont hear much about this album anymore, and i think top to bottom it is nearly perfect |
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| [J.D. DIAMOND] Thursday, March 17, 2011 6:17:26 AM | |
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I agree 100% as everybody already knows. While not the very best Priest album,Angel Of Retribution is the most underrated LP in the band's history,but not by far....a few others are right there too...
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by rssparks from Wednesday, March 16, 2011 9:15:43 PM)| | | rssparks wrote: | | | angel of retribution.......people always give props to the classic stuff, and rightfully so, but dont hear much about this album anymore, and i think top to bottom it is nearly perfect |
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| [spapad] Wednesday, March 16, 2011 10:37:55 PM | |
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Except Loch Ness it was perfect.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by rssparks from Wednesday, March 16, 2011 9:15:43 PM)| | | rssparks wrote: | | | angel of retribution.......people always give props to the classic stuff, and rightfully so, but dont hear much about this album anymore, and i think top to bottom it is nearly perfect |
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| [rssparks] Wednesday, March 16, 2011 9:15:43 PM | |
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| angel of retribution.......people always give props to the classic stuff, and rightfully so, but dont hear much about this album anymore, and i think top to bottom it is nearly perfect |
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| [Becks] Tuesday, March 15, 2011 10:54:03 PM | |
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How about everyone just drops it eh guy, it's getting silly all this sledging and shit.
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| [jimmyjames] Tuesday, March 15, 2011 9:18:47 PM | |
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Good to see you're still lurking in the background Michael. Don't call Brian a pussy, that's sexist and derogatory towards women. Also anyone whose ever come second at anything might take offence toward your comment about him being a loser. As for calling me a nobody, that could be misconstrued, people who don't exist might take offence that you are using their status as a way to insult somebody else.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Phantom A6 from Tuesday, March 15, 2011 7:39:32 PM)| | | Phantom A6 wrote: | | Thanks Bud and Spa.
Every little fanboy pussy like Brian can call me a "Kraut"
'Cause it's an honour for me!! You're just a little fucking loser, that's all!!
And Jimmy, well, what should I say?? Nothing, 'Cause he's a nobody!! |
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| [jimmyjames] Tuesday, March 15, 2011 9:12:04 PM | |
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| [Phantom A6] Tuesday, March 15, 2011 7:39:32 PM | |
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Thanks Bud and Spa.
Every little fanboy pussy like Brian can call me a "Kraut"
'Cause it's an honour for me!! You're just a little fucking loser, that's all!!
And Jimmy, well, what should I say?? Nothing, 'Cause he's a nobody!! |
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| [Budred] Tuesday, March 15, 2011 6:29:20 PM | |
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| [jimmyjames] Tuesday, March 15, 2011 11:42:34 AM | |
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| [Becks] Monday, March 14, 2011 11:35:10 PM | |
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It's not considered super offensive here, mind you we don't really have many Germans so I wouldn't know. Never used it personally. It's the German equivalent of calling a British person a Pom to us. But like I said, I've never really heard it used. Other than on American tv shows, hehe.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Monday, March 14, 2011 10:23:40 PM)| | | spapad wrote: | | I don't know about your end of the world, but calling a German a Krout is not very nice. So, I agree it is offensive, just like calling Jewish people certain names, and Mexicans certain names, and the list could go on, but it's just seen as derogatory and ignorant.
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | Kraut? That's not offensive. It comes from sauerkraut. Which means sour cabbage. I hardly think calling someone a cabbage is going to offend them. You've said millions of things much more abusive and offensive than that.
| | | Budred wrote: | | Why Phantom A6?
Brian, that "kraut" comment sounds pretty derogatory. Ripping someone is one thing
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| [Head banger] Monday, March 14, 2011 10:40:22 PM | |
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| how about we dont post millions of insulting things. |
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| [Budred] Monday, March 14, 2011 10:33:03 PM | |
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I thought you were pretty smart until that comment.
I guess there is nothing wrong with calling a black guy a n*gger either.
After all it was just another way of saying negro during the slave trade.
Kraut may be sour cabbage but it's still a derogatory comment towards Germans.
You don't like me for comments about police or religion but you're starting to come off as a racist and a homophobe.
Millions of things more abusive and offensive? Are you serious? Post them.
Unless it's a response to something said to me I think you'll have trouble.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Monday, March 14, 2011 9:39:04 PM)| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | Kraut? That's not offensive. It comes from sauerkraut. Which means sour cabbage. I hardly think calling someone a cabbage is going to offend them. You've said millions of things much more abusive and offensive than that.
| | | Budred wrote: | | Why Phantom A6?
Brian, that "kraut" comment sounds pretty derogatory. Ripping someone is one thing
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| [smurfette] Monday, March 14, 2011 10:30:31 PM | |
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| [spapad] Monday, March 14, 2011 10:23:40 PM | |
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I don't know about your end of the world, but calling a German a Krout is not very nice. So, I agree it is offensive, just like calling Jewish people certain names, and Mexicans certain names, and the list could go on, but it's just seen as derogatory and ignorant.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Monday, March 14, 2011 9:39:04 PM)| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | Kraut? That's not offensive. It comes from sauerkraut. Which means sour cabbage. I hardly think calling someone a cabbage is going to offend them. You've said millions of things much more abusive and offensive than that.
| | | Budred wrote: | | Why Phantom A6?
Brian, that "kraut" comment sounds pretty derogatory. Ripping someone is one thing
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| [jimmyjames] Monday, March 14, 2011 9:39:04 PM | |
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Kraut? That's not offensive. It comes from sauerkraut. Which means sour cabbage. I hardly think calling someone a cabbage is going to offend them. You've said millions of things much more abusive and offensive than that.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Budred from Monday, March 14, 2011 4:06:17 AM)| | | Budred wrote: | | Why Phantom A6?
Brian, that "kraut" comment sounds pretty derogatory. Ripping someone is one thing
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| [spapad] Monday, March 14, 2011 6:43:49 PM | |
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I agree Bud, much uncalled for and "out of bounds". Typical of this Troll.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Budred from Monday, March 14, 2011 4:06:17 AM)| | | Budred wrote: | | Why Phantom A6?
Brian, that "kraut" comment sounds pretty derogatory. Ripping someone is one thing
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| [HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Monday, March 14, 2011 6:09:29 PM | |
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Sorry, but I was only 7 when Sin After Sin was released...
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Brian_Evans from Monday, March 14, 2011 12:08:14 AM)| | | Brian_Evans wrote: | | That chick could very well be HRMG, but i'm not seeing the Halford necklace and t-shirt ....or Ozzy ......lol
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| [Gobberz] Monday, March 14, 2011 1:46:47 PM | |
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| I think, possibly Defenders of the Faith, it is certainly one of the best with Songs like The Sentinel, Frewheel Burning, Jawbreaker and Lovebites - though it was pretty successfull. Though Point of Entry seems to be less talked about. |
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| [Budred] Monday, March 14, 2011 4:06:17 AM | |
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Why Phantom A6?
Brian, that "kraut" comment sounds pretty derogatory. Ripping someone is one thing
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| [Brian_Evans] Monday, March 14, 2011 12:08:14 AM | |
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That chick could very well be HRMG, but i'm not seeing the Halford necklace and t-shirt ....or Ozzy ......lol
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| [Brian_Evans] Monday, March 14, 2011 12:04:32 AM | |
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You know, that figure does resemble a kraut. 
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Sunday, March 13, 2011 10:48:00 PM)| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | It might be Phantom A6 then.
| | | Brian_Evans wrote: | | | The figure is stalking that chick. Wheather he's gay or not , I don't know, but he's getting ready to make his move. ha! |
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| [Becks] Sunday, March 13, 2011 11:05:24 PM | |
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Oooh I've never seen that shirt before JD, cool!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Sunday, March 13, 2011 8:01:49 PM)| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | 
Here is the Priest shirt I want the most but could never find it fuck!
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| [jimmyjames] Sunday, March 13, 2011 10:48:00 PM | |
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It might be Phantom A6 then.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Brian_Evans from Sunday, March 13, 2011 10:29:13 PM)| | | Brian_Evans wrote: | | | The figure is stalking that chick. Wheather he's gay or not , I don't know, but he's getting ready to make his move. ha! |
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| [Brian_Evans] Sunday, March 13, 2011 10:29:13 PM | |
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| The figure is stalking that chick. Wheather he's gay or not , I don't know, but he's getting ready to make his move. ha! |
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| [jimmyjames] Sunday, March 13, 2011 9:29:17 PM | |
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Natural for a person who has one leg significantly shorter than the other. Ok so the ladies and JD don't think Starbreaker is a gay song, I still do. No-one's convinced me otherwise. Lets leave it at that and talk about the saucy naked chick wearing nothing but heels.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Saturday, March 12, 2011 6:27:40 PM)| | | spapad wrote: | | NO, I bet the artist was left to his own devices, and that figure coming up the hill looks very natural.
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | No but I bet he was told to make sure at least one character wasn't straight.
| | | spapad wrote: | | Perspective, and it's supposed to look like he's leaning in towards her as he approaches. You really don't think the artist for this jacket was told to make a big gay to do over nothing do you? Saw your last post, and yes the joke is on us! LOL
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | It's a joke, relax. However If you want to get into body mechanics I think the angle he's on with his legs as close together as they are and his arms by his sides, he would fall over.
| | | spapad wrote: | | What you are looking at is body mechanics. The way a person would climb a rocky outcrop. He's standing there on uneven ground. In my opinion your are way over reaching.
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | Yeah, he's not straight. He's at an angle. Look at it.
| | | spapad wrote: | | You crack me up! Now a sillouet is "not straight", WTF are you eating these days? Peyote?
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | Yeah those songs are all great and save the album but the rest of it is pretty rubbish. Check out the dark figure on the album cover, he's not straight.
| | | Becks wrote: | | LOL you' ve certainly done some sleuthing with the lyrics JJ!!! It's good to have a debate about what we think songs are about etc.
I don't think I've actually answered the question about Priests most underrated album. In some respects I think Point of Entry is underrated, people think that album is full of Don't Go type songs (incidentally I like that song, it makes me laugh hehe) but it has some great songs on it, Heading out to the Highway, Solar Angels, Desert Plains etc. So in a way it is terribly underrated.
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | I think the Starbreaker is a gay guy who is opening up the gay lifestyle to guys who are confused about their sexuality. He does this by exposing them to a world that is vastly different to the one they are used to and one which will ultimately bring them happiness, should they decide to go his way. All the references to cruising, hand holding, stealing hearts and getting high aside that's basically what it's about. Whether or not you agree I'm glad that comment sparked some debate.
As for the album cover I'm surprised that the dark figure hasn't fallen over leaning on that angle and I love how the female figure at the front appears to be naked apart from her high heels. |
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| [J.D. DIAMOND] Sunday, March 13, 2011 8:01:49 PM | |
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Here is the Priest shirt I want the most but could never find it fuck!
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| [J.D. DIAMOND] Sunday, March 13, 2011 7:56:59 PM | |
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Ha ha yeah I remember that one spa! lol!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Sunday, March 13, 2011 7:33:17 PM)| | | spapad wrote: | | The "Eat me Alive" song, while not heard that year was all well on the back of JP tour shirts. A picture of a leather clad woman in spike heels with her wrists handcuffed to her ankles. That was the back of my tourshirt. My mother was mortified! LMAO!!!
| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | I agree Guitardude,just enjoy the songs but I'm courious if that "tasnam1" , jimmy james or anybody for that matter can name these "tons" or "loads" of songs/lyrics that has a slant towards the homosexual side,they can't do it as they will only be able to come up with 3 or 4 and not tons or loads,its fucking ridiculous.
Even the song lyrics 'Eat Me Alive" were written by Tipton/Downing/Halford while they were all 3 drunk off thier asses one night in 83' and the song was originally going to be called "Bad Girls In Leather" but they thought that name was too tame so they changed it to Eat Me Alive which could be taken either heterosexual or homosexual but it doesn't "slant" towards "homosexuality".
People read way too much into this shit,I couldn't find the article/interview but Halford already mentioned that the lyrics are not "gay" they can be taken either way the listener wants to perceive it. Like I said,Id like a list of these fucking "tons" of songs.....
| | | guitardude wrote: | | Ok, what I had in mind was Delivering the Goods, always been a favorite as well as the title track(american version)
Now, as for over tones or under tones, what the hell ever, just listen to the song a enjoy it! Jeez man!
| | | spapad wrote: | | Pick one GD! I know I'd love to hear a bunch of that Record. That is why I have yet to put in a one song off each album request, probably never will. I just hope some rare ones creep in.
| | | guitardude wrote: | | I agree with SPA, but ...
Back to the subject matter of this thread
Hell Bent for Leather I think is the most under rated album in the catalog, for me it has many songs that are so strong and I hope to hear live next time around! |
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| [spapad] Sunday, March 13, 2011 7:33:17 PM | |
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The "Eat me Alive" song, while not heard that year was all well on the back of JP tour shirts. A picture of a leather clad woman in spike heels with her wrists handcuffed to her ankles. That was the back of my tourshirt. My mother was mortified! LMAO!!!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Sunday, March 13, 2011 7:23:05 PM)| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | I agree Guitardude,just enjoy the songs but I'm courious if that "tasnam1" , jimmy james or anybody for that matter can name these "tons" or "loads" of songs/lyrics that has a slant towards the homosexual side,they can't do it as they will only be able to come up with 3 or 4 and not tons or loads,its fucking ridiculous.
Even the song lyrics 'Eat Me Alive" were written by Tipton/Downing/Halford while they were all 3 drunk off thier asses one night in 83' and the song was originally going to be called "Bad Girls In Leather" but they thought that name was too tame so they changed it to Eat Me Alive which could be taken either heterosexual or homosexual but it doesn't "slant" towards "homosexuality".
People read way too much into this shit,I couldn't find the article/interview but Halford already mentioned that the lyrics are not "gay" they can be taken either way the listener wants to perceive it. Like I said,Id like a list of these fucking "tons" of songs.....
| | | guitardude wrote: | | Ok, what I had in mind was Delivering the Goods, always been a favorite as well as the title track(american version)
Now, as for over tones or under tones, what the hell ever, just listen to the song a enjoy it! Jeez man!
| | | spapad wrote: | | Pick one GD! I know I'd love to hear a bunch of that Record. That is why I have yet to put in a one song off each album request, probably never will. I just hope some rare ones creep in.
| | | guitardude wrote: | | I agree with SPA, but ...
Back to the subject matter of this thread
Hell Bent for Leather I think is the most under rated album in the catalog, for me it has many songs that are so strong and I hope to hear live next time around! |
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| [J.D. DIAMOND] Sunday, March 13, 2011 7:23:05 PM | |
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I agree Guitardude,just enjoy the songs but I'm courious if that "tasnam1" , jimmy james or anybody for that matter can name these "tons" or "loads" of songs/lyrics that has a slant towards the homosexual side,they can't do it as they will only be able to come up with 3 or 4 and not tons or loads,its fucking ridiculous.
Even the song lyrics 'Eat Me Alive" were written by Tipton/Downing/Halford while they were all 3 drunk off thier asses one night in 83' and the song was originally going to be called "Bad Girls In Leather" but they thought that name was too tame so they changed it to Eat Me Alive which could be taken either heterosexual or homosexual but it doesn't "slant" towards "homosexuality".
People read way too much into this shit,I couldn't find the article/interview but Halford already mentioned that the lyrics are not "gay" they can be taken either way the listener wants to perceive it. Like I said,Id like a list of these fucking "tons" of songs.....
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guitardude from Sunday, March 13, 2011 7:10:40 PM)| | | guitardude wrote: | | Ok, what I had in mind was Delivering the Goods, always been a favorite as well as the title track(american version)
Now, as for over tones or under tones, what the hell ever, just listen to the song a enjoy it! Jeez man!
| | | spapad wrote: | | Pick one GD! I know I'd love to hear a bunch of that Record. That is why I have yet to put in a one song off each album request, probably never will. I just hope some rare ones creep in.
| | | guitardude wrote: | | I agree with SPA, but ...
Back to the subject matter of this thread
Hell Bent for Leather I think is the most under rated album in the catalog, for me it has many songs that are so strong and I hope to hear live next time around! |
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| [spapad] Sunday, March 13, 2011 7:19:31 PM | |
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I'd love to hear that as well as Hell Bent for Leather, and also Killing Machine..............Obviously why I don't put forth a set list with only one song off each. Too hard to do!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guitardude from Sunday, March 13, 2011 7:10:40 PM)| | | guitardude wrote: | | Ok, what I had in mind was Delivering the Goods, always been a favorite as well as the title track(american version)
Now, as for over tones or under tones, what the hell ever, just listen to the song a enjoy it! Jeez man!
| | | spapad wrote: | | Pick one GD! I know I'd love to hear a bunch of that Record. That is why I have yet to put in a one song off each album request, probably never will. I just hope some rare ones creep in.
| | | guitardude wrote: | | I agree with SPA, but ...
Back to the subject matter of this thread
Hell Bent for Leather I think is the most under rated album in the catalog, for me it has many songs that are so strong and I hope to hear live next time around! |
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| [guitardude] Sunday, March 13, 2011 7:10:40 PM | |
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Ok, what I had in mind was Delivering the Goods, always been a favorite as well as the title track(american version)
Now, as for over tones or under tones, what the hell ever, just listen to the song a enjoy it! Jeez man!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Saturday, March 12, 2011 6:44:42 PM)| | | spapad wrote: | | Pick one GD! I know I'd love to hear a bunch of that Record. That is why I have yet to put in a one song off each album request, probably never will. I just hope some rare ones creep in.
| | | guitardude wrote: | | I agree with SPA, but ...
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| [Gobberz] Sunday, March 13, 2011 1:16:34 PM | |
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| Probably Defenders of the Faith. It has such fantastic song like Freewheel Burning, Jawbreaker, Love Bites and of course The Sentinel. |
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A little late for this discussion, I know, but I always thought of those two figures as sinners waiting for that door to open (IS it a door?). What could it contain? Maybe the paradise that the Starbreaker promised? Maybe it's something sinister? Maybe they both got screwed by that one "raw deal"? The world may never know. It's definitely a much gloomier album cover than the SWOD one.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Friday, March 11, 2011 11:16:14 PM)| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | 
I always thought Starbreaker was a Sci-Fi idea too,like a mystical being character or something of the sort....that shadow-shape-person on the left of the album I always thought was either the Starbreaker or the Sinner when I was 11 years old in 1981 when I bought the LP ha!
| | | spapad wrote: | | It's about fate interceding told in a grand way in my opinion. I love the lyrics, and no doubt they did feel like it only comes once a lifetime.
| | | Becks wrote: | | I completely forgot he is such a big sci fi fan, and the band making it to the top thing is something that never crossed my mind lol. I knew it was about a sci fi character, as Rob tends to write about often. No homosexual undertones or anything there lol.
| | | spapad wrote: | | I thought it was evident. Just makes sense from the place in time he wrote it from.
| | | Becks wrote: | | That makes sense Spa!
| | | spapad wrote: | | I actually saw Starbreaker as a cross between science fiction and also the bullshit bands have to go thorough to hope to be the "chosen few" .
(Quoting Message by HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS from Friday, March 11, 2011 9:46:40 PM)
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Not to mention the fact that Rob is really into Science Fiction. That's what I get from the song too, it's science fiction about a "savior" that will take us to paradise (or looking at it now, I suppose it could be about drugs?). And I agree completely Becks, just because Rob is gay doesn't mean every song he writes has homosexual undertones..... I'm really sick of fans thinking every song is gay now that Rob came out. Before no one ever thought they were, but now some people see it in every song. And even if it is, WHO CARES???
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To me it's a typical Priest made up character song, some dude called Starbreaker taking people away to space or something 'star voyage to a new world, lightyear miles away' etc.
Bear in mind I am a very literal person, I don't read undertones very well, but in saying that I find it very hard on reading the lyrics to pick up any gay undertone. Just cos Rob is gay doesn't mean every crazy Priest song is about gay stuff LOL.
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| [J.D. DIAMOND] Sunday, March 13, 2011 3:03:12 AM | |
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Name "tons" of these songs with the "SLANT" towards the gay preference and not the ones written for both sexes....not just 3 songs...."tons"....?
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by tasnam1 from Saturday, March 12, 2011 11:26:13 PM)
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I have to agree with JimmyJames, Priest has tons of gay "under-tones" (or is it over-tones?) in al LOT of their songs.
TRUE they are written for both sexes, but with a "slant" toward the gay preference.
Not sure about Starbreak.....though it would surprise me.
TONS of songs, just read the lyrics while listening and pretend you are Rob writing.
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I don't want it to be gay, I just think it is. Priest have loads of gay songs, why not this one?
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It has always been my experience that people determined to find something wrong with the lyrics in a song, always do because they read WAAAAAAY TOO MUCH into things, or take it completely out of context! People were hell bent on making Priest a "satanic" band way back when and the shit they told me the lyrics meant was absolutely hysterical! You WANT the song to be gay because Rob is gay and that's why you see it that way.
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I think the Starbreaker is a gay guy who is opening up the gay lifestyle to guys who are confused about their sexuality. He does this by exposing them to a world that is vastly different to the one they are used to and one which will ultimately bring them happiness, should they decide to go his way. All the references to cruising, hand holding, stealing hearts and getting high aside that's basically what it's about. Whether or not you agree I'm glad that comment sparked some debate.
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I have to agree with JimmyJames, Priest has tons of gay "under-tones" (or is it over-tones?) in al LOT of their songs.
TRUE they are written for both sexes, but with a "slant" toward the gay preference.
Not sure about Starbreak.....though it would surprise me.
TONS of songs, just read the lyrics while listening and pretend you are Rob writing.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Saturday, March 12, 2011 5:14:06 PM)| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | I don't want it to be gay, I just think it is. Priest have loads of gay songs, why not this one?
| | | HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote: | | It has always been my experience that people determined to find something wrong with the lyrics in a song, always do because they read WAAAAAAY TOO MUCH into things, or take it completely out of context! People were hell bent on making Priest a "satanic" band way back when and the shit they told me the lyrics meant was absolutely hysterical! You WANT the song to be gay because Rob is gay and that's why you see it that way.
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | I think the Starbreaker is a gay guy who is opening up the gay lifestyle to guys who are confused about their sexuality. He does this by exposing them to a world that is vastly different to the one they are used to and one which will ultimately bring them happiness, should they decide to go his way. All the references to cruising, hand holding, stealing hearts and getting high aside that's basically what it's about. Whether or not you agree I'm glad that comment sparked some debate.
As for the album cover I'm surprised that the dark figure hasn't fallen over leaning on that angle and I love how the female figure at the front appears to be naked apart from her high heels. |
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They eat the "buttons" that grow on the cactus.
It's supposed to be like mescaline, maybe stronger.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Saturday, March 12, 2011 6:19:01 PM)| | | spapad wrote: | | It's a cactus found in the midwest, to Mexico areas. When brewed, or whatever the hell they do to it, it is a very potent hallucinagin.
| | | Becks wrote: | | Ok I have to ask, what's peyote? LOL!
| | | spapad wrote: | | You crack me up! Now a sillouet is "not straight", WTF are you eating these days? Peyote?
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | Yeah those songs are all great and save the album but the rest of it is pretty rubbish. Check out the dark figure on the album cover, he's not straight.
| | | Becks wrote: | | LOL you' ve certainly done some sleuthing with the lyrics JJ!!! It's good to have a debate about what we think songs are about etc.
I don't think I've actually answered the question about Priests most underrated album. In some respects I think Point of Entry is underrated, people think that album is full of Don't Go type songs (incidentally I like that song, it makes me laugh hehe) but it has some great songs on it, Heading out to the Highway, Solar Angels, Desert Plains etc. So in a way it is terribly underrated.
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | I think the Starbreaker is a gay guy who is opening up the gay lifestyle to guys who are confused about their sexuality. He does this by exposing them to a world that is vastly different to the one they are used to and one which will ultimately bring them happiness, should they decide to go his way. All the references to cruising, hand holding, stealing hearts and getting high aside that's basically what it's about. Whether or not you agree I'm glad that comment sparked some debate.
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| [spapad] Saturday, March 12, 2011 6:44:42 PM | |
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Pick one GD! I know I'd love to hear a bunch of that Record. That is why I have yet to put in a one song off each album request, probably never will. I just hope some rare ones creep in.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guitardude from Saturday, March 12, 2011 6:34:50 PM)| | | guitardude wrote: | | I agree with SPA, but ...
Back to the subject matter of this thread
Hell Bent for Leather I think is the most under rated album in the catalog, for me it has many songs that are so strong and I hope to hear live next time around! |
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I agree with SPA, but ...
Back to the subject matter of this thread
Hell Bent for Leather I think is the most under rated album in the catalog, for me it has many songs that are so strong and I hope to hear live next time around! |
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I agree Becks. Actually when I found out Jawbreaker was what it was, I was surprised as it works as a song without that angle. I do think almost all of Rob's lyrics are multilayered, and can work for anyone. That is what makes a classic song.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Becks from Saturday, March 12, 2011 6:24:44 PM)| | | Becks wrote: | | I agree, I find any of the songs Priest have about love etc to be rather androgenous, as in it applies to any type of relationship.
| | | HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote: | | No, they don't have "loads" of gay songs! WTF? Rob has always kept the lyrics neutral, so that they apply to gay or straight couples. Just because he is gay and he writes about relationships, that doesn't make a song homosexual. Love is love and it applies to all, period.
And again, Who gives a shit if a song is "gay" or not??? I sure as hell don't!
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | I don't want it to be gay, I just think it is. Priest have loads of gay songs, why not this one?
| | | HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote: | | It has always been my experience that people determined to find something wrong with the lyrics in a song, always do because they read WAAAAAAY TOO MUCH into things, or take it completely out of context! People were hell bent on making Priest a "satanic" band way back when and the shit they told me the lyrics meant was absolutely hysterical! You WANT the song to be gay because Rob is gay and that's why you see it that way.
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As for the album cover I'm surprised that the dark figure hasn't fallen over leaning on that angle and I love how the female figure at the front appears to be naked apart from her high heels. |
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NO, I bet the artist was left to his own devices, and that figure coming up the hill looks very natural.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Saturday, March 12, 2011 5:33:20 PM)| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | No but I bet he was told to make sure at least one character wasn't straight.
| | | spapad wrote: | | Perspective, and it's supposed to look like he's leaning in towards her as he approaches. You really don't think the artist for this jacket was told to make a big gay to do over nothing do you? Saw your last post, and yes the joke is on us! LOL
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | It's a joke, relax. However If you want to get into body mechanics I think the angle he's on with his legs as close together as they are and his arms by his sides, he would fall over.
| | | spapad wrote: | | What you are looking at is body mechanics. The way a person would climb a rocky outcrop. He's standing there on uneven ground. In my opinion your are way over reaching.
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | Yeah, he's not straight. He's at an angle. Look at it.
| | | spapad wrote: | | You crack me up! Now a sillouet is "not straight", WTF are you eating these days? Peyote?
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | Yeah those songs are all great and save the album but the rest of it is pretty rubbish. Check out the dark figure on the album cover, he's not straight.
| | | Becks wrote: | | LOL you' ve certainly done some sleuthing with the lyrics JJ!!! It's good to have a debate about what we think songs are about etc.
I don't think I've actually answered the question about Priests most underrated album. In some respects I think Point of Entry is underrated, people think that album is full of Don't Go type songs (incidentally I like that song, it makes me laugh hehe) but it has some great songs on it, Heading out to the Highway, Solar Angels, Desert Plains etc. So in a way it is terribly underrated.
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | I think the Starbreaker is a gay guy who is opening up the gay lifestyle to guys who are confused about their sexuality. He does this by exposing them to a world that is vastly different to the one they are used to and one which will ultimately bring them happiness, should they decide to go his way. All the references to cruising, hand holding, stealing hearts and getting high aside that's basically what it's about. Whether or not you agree I'm glad that comment sparked some debate.
As for the album cover I'm surprised that the dark figure hasn't fallen over leaning on that angle and I love how the female figure at the front appears to be naked apart from her high heels. |
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I agree, I find any of the songs Priest have about love etc to be rather androgenous, as in it applies to any type of relationship.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS from Saturday, March 12, 2011 6:18:35 PM)| | | HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote: | | No, they don't have "loads" of gay songs! WTF? Rob has always kept the lyrics neutral, so that they apply to gay or straight couples. Just because he is gay and he writes about relationships, that doesn't make a song homosexual. Love is love and it applies to all, period.
And again, Who gives a shit if a song is "gay" or not??? I sure as hell don't!
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | I don't want it to be gay, I just think it is. Priest have loads of gay songs, why not this one?
| | | HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote: | | It has always been my experience that people determined to find something wrong with the lyrics in a song, always do because they read WAAAAAAY TOO MUCH into things, or take it completely out of context! People were hell bent on making Priest a "satanic" band way back when and the shit they told me the lyrics meant was absolutely hysterical! You WANT the song to be gay because Rob is gay and that's why you see it that way.
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | I think the Starbreaker is a gay guy who is opening up the gay lifestyle to guys who are confused about their sexuality. He does this by exposing them to a world that is vastly different to the one they are used to and one which will ultimately bring them happiness, should they decide to go his way. All the references to cruising, hand holding, stealing hearts and getting high aside that's basically what it's about. Whether or not you agree I'm glad that comment sparked some debate.
As for the album cover I'm surprised that the dark figure hasn't fallen over leaning on that angle and I love how the female figure at the front appears to be naked apart from her high heels. |
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It's a cactus found in the midwest, to Mexico areas. When brewed, or whatever the hell they do to it, it is a very potent hallucinagin.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Becks from Saturday, March 12, 2011 6:09:12 PM)| | | Becks wrote: | | Ok I have to ask, what's peyote? LOL!
| | | spapad wrote: | | You crack me up! Now a sillouet is "not straight", WTF are you eating these days? Peyote?
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | Yeah those songs are all great and save the album but the rest of it is pretty rubbish. Check out the dark figure on the album cover, he's not straight.
| | | Becks wrote: | | LOL you' ve certainly done some sleuthing with the lyrics JJ!!! It's good to have a debate about what we think songs are about etc.
I don't think I've actually answered the question about Priests most underrated album. In some respects I think Point of Entry is underrated, people think that album is full of Don't Go type songs (incidentally I like that song, it makes me laugh hehe) but it has some great songs on it, Heading out to the Highway, Solar Angels, Desert Plains etc. So in a way it is terribly underrated.
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | I think the Starbreaker is a gay guy who is opening up the gay lifestyle to guys who are confused about their sexuality. He does this by exposing them to a world that is vastly different to the one they are used to and one which will ultimately bring them happiness, should they decide to go his way. All the references to cruising, hand holding, stealing hearts and getting high aside that's basically what it's about. Whether or not you agree I'm glad that comment sparked some debate.
As for the album cover I'm surprised that the dark figure hasn't fallen over leaning on that angle and I love how the female figure at the front appears to be naked apart from her high heels. |
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| [HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Saturday, March 12, 2011 6:18:35 PM | |
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No, they don't have "loads" of gay songs! WTF? Rob has always kept the lyrics neutral, so that they apply to gay or straight couples. Just because he is gay and he writes about relationships, that doesn't make a song homosexual. Love is love and it applies to all, period.
And again, Who gives a shit if a song is "gay" or not??? I sure as hell don't!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Saturday, March 12, 2011 5:14:06 PM)| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | I don't want it to be gay, I just think it is. Priest have loads of gay songs, why not this one?
| | | HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote: | | It has always been my experience that people determined to find something wrong with the lyrics in a song, always do because they read WAAAAAAY TOO MUCH into things, or take it completely out of context! People were hell bent on making Priest a "satanic" band way back when and the shit they told me the lyrics meant was absolutely hysterical! You WANT the song to be gay because Rob is gay and that's why you see it that way.
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | I think the Starbreaker is a gay guy who is opening up the gay lifestyle to guys who are confused about their sexuality. He does this by exposing them to a world that is vastly different to the one they are used to and one which will ultimately bring them happiness, should they decide to go his way. All the references to cruising, hand holding, stealing hearts and getting high aside that's basically what it's about. Whether or not you agree I'm glad that comment sparked some debate.
As for the album cover I'm surprised that the dark figure hasn't fallen over leaning on that angle and I love how the female figure at the front appears to be naked apart from her high heels. |
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| [Becks] Saturday, March 12, 2011 6:09:12 PM | |
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Ok I have to ask, what's peyote? LOL!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Saturday, March 12, 2011 4:45:16 PM)| | | spapad wrote: | | You crack me up! Now a sillouet is "not straight", WTF are you eating these days? Peyote?
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | Yeah those songs are all great and save the album but the rest of it is pretty rubbish. Check out the dark figure on the album cover, he's not straight.
| | | Becks wrote: | | LOL you' ve certainly done some sleuthing with the lyrics JJ!!! It's good to have a debate about what we think songs are about etc.
I don't think I've actually answered the question about Priests most underrated album. In some respects I think Point of Entry is underrated, people think that album is full of Don't Go type songs (incidentally I like that song, it makes me laugh hehe) but it has some great songs on it, Heading out to the Highway, Solar Angels, Desert Plains etc. So in a way it is terribly underrated.
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | I think the Starbreaker is a gay guy who is opening up the gay lifestyle to guys who are confused about their sexuality. He does this by exposing them to a world that is vastly different to the one they are used to and one which will ultimately bring them happiness, should they decide to go his way. All the references to cruising, hand holding, stealing hearts and getting high aside that's basically what it's about. Whether or not you agree I'm glad that comment sparked some debate.
As for the album cover I'm surprised that the dark figure hasn't fallen over leaning on that angle and I love how the female figure at the front appears to be naked apart from her high heels. |
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| [jimmyjames] Saturday, March 12, 2011 5:33:20 PM | |
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No but I bet he was told to make sure at least one character wasn't straight.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Saturday, March 12, 2011 5:23:58 PM)| | | spapad wrote: | | Perspective, and it's supposed to look like he's leaning in towards her as he approaches. You really don't think the artist for this jacket was told to make a big gay to do over nothing do you? Saw your last post, and yes the joke is on us! LOL
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | It's a joke, relax. However If you want to get into body mechanics I think the angle he's on with his legs as close together as they are and his arms by his sides, he would fall over.
| | | spapad wrote: | | What you are looking at is body mechanics. The way a person would climb a rocky outcrop. He's standing there on uneven ground. In my opinion your are way over reaching.
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | Yeah, he's not straight. He's at an angle. Look at it.
| | | spapad wrote: | | You crack me up! Now a sillouet is "not straight", WTF are you eating these days? Peyote?
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | Yeah those songs are all great and save the album but the rest of it is pretty rubbish. Check out the dark figure on the album cover, he's not straight.
| | | Becks wrote: | | LOL you' ve certainly done some sleuthing with the lyrics JJ!!! It's good to have a debate about what we think songs are about etc.
I don't think I've actually answered the question about Priests most underrated album. In some respects I think Point of Entry is underrated, people think that album is full of Don't Go type songs (incidentally I like that song, it makes me laugh hehe) but it has some great songs on it, Heading out to the Highway, Solar Angels, Desert Plains etc. So in a way it is terribly underrated.
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | I think the Starbreaker is a gay guy who is opening up the gay lifestyle to guys who are confused about their sexuality. He does this by exposing them to a world that is vastly different to the one they are used to and one which will ultimately bring them happiness, should they decide to go his way. All the references to cruising, hand holding, stealing hearts and getting high aside that's basically what it's about. Whether or not you agree I'm glad that comment sparked some debate.
As for the album cover I'm surprised that the dark figure hasn't fallen over leaning on that angle and I love how the female figure at the front appears to be naked apart from her high heels. |
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Perspective, and it's supposed to look like he's leaning in towards her as he approaches. You really don't think the artist for this jacket was told to make a big gay to do over nothing do you? Saw your last post, and yes the joke is on us! LOL
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Saturday, March 12, 2011 5:19:58 PM)| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | It's a joke, relax. However If you want to get into body mechanics I think the angle he's on with his legs as close together as they are and his arms by his sides, he would fall over.
| | | spapad wrote: | | What you are looking at is body mechanics. The way a person would climb a rocky outcrop. He's standing there on uneven ground. In my opinion your are way over reaching.
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | Yeah, he's not straight. He's at an angle. Look at it.
| | | spapad wrote: | | You crack me up! Now a sillouet is "not straight", WTF are you eating these days? Peyote?
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | Yeah those songs are all great and save the album but the rest of it is pretty rubbish. Check out the dark figure on the album cover, he's not straight.
| | | Becks wrote: | | LOL you' ve certainly done some sleuthing with the lyrics JJ!!! It's good to have a debate about what we think songs are about etc.
I don't think I've actually answered the question about Priests most underrated album. In some respects I think Point of Entry is underrated, people think that album is full of Don't Go type songs (incidentally I like that song, it makes me laugh hehe) but it has some great songs on it, Heading out to the Highway, Solar Angels, Desert Plains etc. So in a way it is terribly underrated.
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | I think the Starbreaker is a gay guy who is opening up the gay lifestyle to guys who are confused about their sexuality. He does this by exposing them to a world that is vastly different to the one they are used to and one which will ultimately bring them happiness, should they decide to go his way. All the references to cruising, hand holding, stealing hearts and getting high aside that's basically what it's about. Whether or not you agree I'm glad that comment sparked some debate.
As for the album cover I'm surprised that the dark figure hasn't fallen over leaning on that angle and I love how the female figure at the front appears to be naked apart from her high heels. |
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Because Plain and Simple it is not. Now, I will agree with a few being geared that way, but you are really reaching on this one.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Saturday, March 12, 2011 5:14:06 PM)| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | I don't want it to be gay, I just think it is. Priest have loads of gay songs, why not this one?
| | | HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote: | | It has always been my experience that people determined to find something wrong with the lyrics in a song, always do because they read WAAAAAAY TOO MUCH into things, or take it completely out of context! People were hell bent on making Priest a "satanic" band way back when and the shit they told me the lyrics meant was absolutely hysterical! You WANT the song to be gay because Rob is gay and that's why you see it that way.
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | I think the Starbreaker is a gay guy who is opening up the gay lifestyle to guys who are confused about their sexuality. He does this by exposing them to a world that is vastly different to the one they are used to and one which will ultimately bring them happiness, should they decide to go his way. All the references to cruising, hand holding, stealing hearts and getting high aside that's basically what it's about. Whether or not you agree I'm glad that comment sparked some debate.
As for the album cover I'm surprised that the dark figure hasn't fallen over leaning on that angle and I love how the female figure at the front appears to be naked apart from her high heels. |
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| [jimmyjames] Saturday, March 12, 2011 5:19:58 PM | |
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It's a joke, relax. However If you want to get into body mechanics I think the angle he's on with his legs as close together as they are and his arms by his sides, he would fall over.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Saturday, March 12, 2011 5:08:03 PM)| | | spapad wrote: | | What you are looking at is body mechanics. The way a person would climb a rocky outcrop. He's standing there on uneven ground. In my opinion your are way over reaching.
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | Yeah, he's not straight. He's at an angle. Look at it.
| | | spapad wrote: | | You crack me up! Now a sillouet is "not straight", WTF are you eating these days? Peyote?
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | Yeah those songs are all great and save the album but the rest of it is pretty rubbish. Check out the dark figure on the album cover, he's not straight.
| | | Becks wrote: | | LOL you' ve certainly done some sleuthing with the lyrics JJ!!! It's good to have a debate about what we think songs are about etc.
I don't think I've actually answered the question about Priests most underrated album. In some respects I think Point of Entry is underrated, people think that album is full of Don't Go type songs (incidentally I like that song, it makes me laugh hehe) but it has some great songs on it, Heading out to the Highway, Solar Angels, Desert Plains etc. So in a way it is terribly underrated.
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | I think the Starbreaker is a gay guy who is opening up the gay lifestyle to guys who are confused about their sexuality. He does this by exposing them to a world that is vastly different to the one they are used to and one which will ultimately bring them happiness, should they decide to go his way. All the references to cruising, hand holding, stealing hearts and getting high aside that's basically what it's about. Whether or not you agree I'm glad that comment sparked some debate.
As for the album cover I'm surprised that the dark figure hasn't fallen over leaning on that angle and I love how the female figure at the front appears to be naked apart from her high heels. |
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| [jimmyjames] Saturday, March 12, 2011 5:14:06 PM | |
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I don't want it to be gay, I just think it is. Priest have loads of gay songs, why not this one?
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS from Saturday, March 12, 2011 5:02:27 PM)| | | HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote: | | It has always been my experience that people determined to find something wrong with the lyrics in a song, always do because they read WAAAAAAY TOO MUCH into things, or take it completely out of context! People were hell bent on making Priest a "satanic" band way back when and the shit they told me the lyrics meant was absolutely hysterical! You WANT the song to be gay because Rob is gay and that's why you see it that way.
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | I think the Starbreaker is a gay guy who is opening up the gay lifestyle to guys who are confused about their sexuality. He does this by exposing them to a world that is vastly different to the one they are used to and one which will ultimately bring them happiness, should they decide to go his way. All the references to cruising, hand holding, stealing hearts and getting high aside that's basically what it's about. Whether or not you agree I'm glad that comment sparked some debate.
As for the album cover I'm surprised that the dark figure hasn't fallen over leaning on that angle and I love how the female figure at the front appears to be naked apart from her high heels. |
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| [spapad] Saturday, March 12, 2011 5:08:03 PM | |
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What you are looking at is body mechanics. The way a person would climb a rocky outcrop. He's standing there on uneven ground. In my opinion your are way over reaching.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Saturday, March 12, 2011 5:05:01 PM)| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | Yeah, he's not straight. He's at an angle. Look at it.
| | | spapad wrote: | | You crack me up! Now a sillouet is "not straight", WTF are you eating these days? Peyote?
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | Yeah those songs are all great and save the album but the rest of it is pretty rubbish. Check out the dark figure on the album cover, he's not straight.
| | | Becks wrote: | | LOL you' ve certainly done some sleuthing with the lyrics JJ!!! It's good to have a debate about what we think songs are about etc.
I don't think I've actually answered the question about Priests most underrated album. In some respects I think Point of Entry is underrated, people think that album is full of Don't Go type songs (incidentally I like that song, it makes me laugh hehe) but it has some great songs on it, Heading out to the Highway, Solar Angels, Desert Plains etc. So in a way it is terribly underrated.
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | I think the Starbreaker is a gay guy who is opening up the gay lifestyle to guys who are confused about their sexuality. He does this by exposing them to a world that is vastly different to the one they are used to and one which will ultimately bring them happiness, should they decide to go his way. All the references to cruising, hand holding, stealing hearts and getting high aside that's basically what it's about. Whether or not you agree I'm glad that comment sparked some debate.
As for the album cover I'm surprised that the dark figure hasn't fallen over leaning on that angle and I love how the female figure at the front appears to be naked apart from her high heels. |
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| [spapad] Saturday, March 12, 2011 5:05:57 PM | |
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That is true, he is reading WAY too much into things.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS from Saturday, March 12, 2011 5:02:27 PM)| | | HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote: | | It has always been my experience that people determined to find something wrong with the lyrics in a song, always do because they read WAAAAAAY TOO MUCH into things, or take it completely out of context! People were hell bent on making Priest a "satanic" band way back when and the shit they told me the lyrics meant was absolutely hysterical! You WANT the song to be gay because Rob is gay and that's why you see it that way.
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | I think the Starbreaker is a gay guy who is opening up the gay lifestyle to guys who are confused about their sexuality. He does this by exposing them to a world that is vastly different to the one they are used to and one which will ultimately bring them happiness, should they decide to go his way. All the references to cruising, hand holding, stealing hearts and getting high aside that's basically what it's about. Whether or not you agree I'm glad that comment sparked some debate.
As for the album cover I'm surprised that the dark figure hasn't fallen over leaning on that angle and I love how the female figure at the front appears to be naked apart from her high heels. |
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| [jimmyjames] Saturday, March 12, 2011 5:05:01 PM | |
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Yeah, he's not straight. He's at an angle. Look at it.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Saturday, March 12, 2011 4:45:16 PM)| | | spapad wrote: | | You crack me up! Now a sillouet is "not straight", WTF are you eating these days? Peyote?
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | Yeah those songs are all great and save the album but the rest of it is pretty rubbish. Check out the dark figure on the album cover, he's not straight.
| | | Becks wrote: | | LOL you' ve certainly done some sleuthing with the lyrics JJ!!! It's good to have a debate about what we think songs are about etc.
I don't think I've actually answered the question about Priests most underrated album. In some respects I think Point of Entry is underrated, people think that album is full of Don't Go type songs (incidentally I like that song, it makes me laugh hehe) but it has some great songs on it, Heading out to the Highway, Solar Angels, Desert Plains etc. So in a way it is terribly underrated.
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | I think the Starbreaker is a gay guy who is opening up the gay lifestyle to guys who are confused about their sexuality. He does this by exposing them to a world that is vastly different to the one they are used to and one which will ultimately bring them happiness, should they decide to go his way. All the references to cruising, hand holding, stealing hearts and getting high aside that's basically what it's about. Whether or not you agree I'm glad that comment sparked some debate.
As for the album cover I'm surprised that the dark figure hasn't fallen over leaning on that angle and I love how the female figure at the front appears to be naked apart from her high heels. |
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| [HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Saturday, March 12, 2011 5:02:27 PM | |
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It has always been my experience that people determined to find something wrong with the lyrics in a song, always do because they read WAAAAAAY TOO MUCH into things, or take it completely out of context! People were hell bent on making Priest a "satanic" band way back when and the shit they told me the lyrics meant was absolutely hysterical! You WANT the song to be gay because Rob is gay and that's why you see it that way.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Saturday, March 12, 2011 3:50:11 PM)| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | I think the Starbreaker is a gay guy who is opening up the gay lifestyle to guys who are confused about their sexuality. He does this by exposing them to a world that is vastly different to the one they are used to and one which will ultimately bring them happiness, should they decide to go his way. All the references to cruising, hand holding, stealing hearts and getting high aside that's basically what it's about. Whether or not you agree I'm glad that comment sparked some debate.
As for the album cover I'm surprised that the dark figure hasn't fallen over leaning on that angle and I love how the female figure at the front appears to be naked apart from her high heels. |
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| [spapad] Saturday, March 12, 2011 4:51:28 PM | |
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As a whole work I do like Point of Entry, minus about at least 3 songs. The kick ass songs are worth the lameness though.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Becks from Saturday, March 12, 2011 4:22:25 PM)| | | Becks wrote: | | LOL you' ve certainly done some sleuthing with the lyrics JJ!!! It's good to have a debate about what we think songs are about etc.
I don't think I've actually answered the question about Priests most underrated album. In some respects I think Point of Entry is underrated, people think that album is full of Don't Go type songs (incidentally I like that song, it makes me laugh hehe) but it has some great songs on it, Heading out to the Highway, Solar Angels, Desert Plains etc. So in a way it is terribly underrated.
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | I think the Starbreaker is a gay guy who is opening up the gay lifestyle to guys who are confused about their sexuality. He does this by exposing them to a world that is vastly different to the one they are used to and one which will ultimately bring them happiness, should they decide to go his way. All the references to cruising, hand holding, stealing hearts and getting high aside that's basically what it's about. Whether or not you agree I'm glad that comment sparked some debate.
As for the album cover I'm surprised that the dark figure hasn't fallen over leaning on that angle and I love how the female figure at the front appears to be naked apart from her high heels. |
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| [spapad] Saturday, March 12, 2011 4:45:16 PM | |
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You crack me up! Now a sillouet is "not straight", WTF are you eating these days? Peyote?
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Saturday, March 12, 2011 4:32:11 PM)| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | Yeah those songs are all great and save the album but the rest of it is pretty rubbish. Check out the dark figure on the album cover, he's not straight.
| | | Becks wrote: | | LOL you' ve certainly done some sleuthing with the lyrics JJ!!! It's good to have a debate about what we think songs are about etc.
I don't think I've actually answered the question about Priests most underrated album. In some respects I think Point of Entry is underrated, people think that album is full of Don't Go type songs (incidentally I like that song, it makes me laugh hehe) but it has some great songs on it, Heading out to the Highway, Solar Angels, Desert Plains etc. So in a way it is terribly underrated.
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | I think the Starbreaker is a gay guy who is opening up the gay lifestyle to guys who are confused about their sexuality. He does this by exposing them to a world that is vastly different to the one they are used to and one which will ultimately bring them happiness, should they decide to go his way. All the references to cruising, hand holding, stealing hearts and getting high aside that's basically what it's about. Whether or not you agree I'm glad that comment sparked some debate.
As for the album cover I'm surprised that the dark figure hasn't fallen over leaning on that angle and I love how the female figure at the front appears to be naked apart from her high heels. |
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| [jimmyjames] Saturday, March 12, 2011 4:32:11 PM | |
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Yeah those songs are all great and save the album but the rest of it is pretty rubbish. Check out the dark figure on the album cover, he's not straight.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Becks from Saturday, March 12, 2011 4:22:25 PM)| | | Becks wrote: | | LOL you' ve certainly done some sleuthing with the lyrics JJ!!! It's good to have a debate about what we think songs are about etc.
I don't think I've actually answered the question about Priests most underrated album. In some respects I think Point of Entry is underrated, people think that album is full of Don't Go type songs (incidentally I like that song, it makes me laugh hehe) but it has some great songs on it, Heading out to the Highway, Solar Angels, Desert Plains etc. So in a way it is terribly underrated.
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | I think the Starbreaker is a gay guy who is opening up the gay lifestyle to guys who are confused about their sexuality. He does this by exposing them to a world that is vastly different to the one they are used to and one which will ultimately bring them happiness, should they decide to go his way. All the references to cruising, hand holding, stealing hearts and getting high aside that's basically what it's about. Whether or not you agree I'm glad that comment sparked some debate.
As for the album cover I'm surprised that the dark figure hasn't fallen over leaning on that angle and I love how the female figure at the front appears to be naked apart from her high heels. |
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| [Becks] Saturday, March 12, 2011 4:22:25 PM | |
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LOL you' ve certainly done some sleuthing with the lyrics JJ!!! It's good to have a debate about what we think songs are about etc.
I don't think I've actually answered the question about Priests most underrated album. In some respects I think Point of Entry is underrated, people think that album is full of Don't Go type songs (incidentally I like that song, it makes me laugh hehe) but it has some great songs on it, Heading out to the Highway, Solar Angels, Desert Plains etc. So in a way it is terribly underrated.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Saturday, March 12, 2011 3:50:11 PM)| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | I think the Starbreaker is a gay guy who is opening up the gay lifestyle to guys who are confused about their sexuality. He does this by exposing them to a world that is vastly different to the one they are used to and one which will ultimately bring them happiness, should they decide to go his way. All the references to cruising, hand holding, stealing hearts and getting high aside that's basically what it's about. Whether or not you agree I'm glad that comment sparked some debate.
As for the album cover I'm surprised that the dark figure hasn't fallen over leaning on that angle and I love how the female figure at the front appears to be naked apart from her high heels. |
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| [jimmyjames] Saturday, March 12, 2011 3:50:11 PM | |
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I think the Starbreaker is a gay guy who is opening up the gay lifestyle to guys who are confused about their sexuality. He does this by exposing them to a world that is vastly different to the one they are used to and one which will ultimately bring them happiness, should they decide to go his way. All the references to cruising, hand holding, stealing hearts and getting high aside that's basically what it's about. Whether or not you agree I'm glad that comment sparked some debate.
As for the album cover I'm surprised that the dark figure hasn't fallen over leaning on that angle and I love how the female figure at the front appears to be naked apart from her high heels. |
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| [Becks] Saturday, March 12, 2011 12:13:45 AM | |
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I think they're both pretty moody albums, I mean SWOD has VOC, Dreamer Deceiver, Genocide etc, and SAS has Sinner, Dissident Aggresso and Hear Come the Tears, but to me Starbreaker really ups the mood of that album a bit. But overall, I can't decide which is moodier LOL!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Friday, March 11, 2011 11:47:50 PM)| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | Somehow,Sin After Sin is "darker" and moodier/gloomier than Sad Wings Of Destiny....I don't know how that works but it seems darker,somber..ect...than Sad Wings which would be the next gloomier album....??Himmm.....
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| [spapad] Friday, March 11, 2011 11:52:27 PM | |
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I don't see it as gloomy. Ok in Raw Deal, someone dies, but there was much more gloomy shit on Rocka Rolla and Sad Wings. But I like Gloomy. I love Dying to Meet you.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Friday, March 11, 2011 11:47:50 PM)| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | Somehow,Sin After Sin is "darker" and moodier/gloomier than Sad Wings Of Destiny....I don't know how that works but it seems darker,somber..ect...than Sad Wings which would be the next gloomier album....??Himmm.....
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| [J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, March 11, 2011 11:47:50 PM | |
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Somehow,Sin After Sin is "darker" and moodier/gloomier than Sad Wings Of Destiny....I don't know how that works but it seems darker,somber..ect...than Sad Wings which would be the next gloomier album....??Himmm.....
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| [guidogodoy] Friday, March 11, 2011 11:42:54 PM | |
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I think the black dude is a skinny Rob sans hat.
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| [spapad] Friday, March 11, 2011 11:39:36 PM | |
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She is the unknown, a flicker of light. The maker is there, she will get her wish, and she will be a sinner when all is said and done. My opinion of a very classic artwork. Only the artist could tell us why he chose to portray the album in such a matter.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Friday, March 11, 2011 11:35:11 PM)| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | I think she is the temptress leading Man to sin. Look at those shoes! Eve revisited (with 'nice gams' - as gramps would say).
| | | spapad wrote: | | Castin couch comes to mind if you go that way. I still think she is the unknown, and he is the maker.
| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | lol! Neah I like your idea yeah the female with her head lowered in shame is the Sinner and the figure is Starbreaker ha!
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Since you bring it up with a picture...I say that the female with her head lowered in shame must be the sinner tempted by the figure in black!
Ok, so the lyrics don't really back me up on this one. She can be the Starbreaker, then. lol
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I always thought Starbreaker was a Sci-Fi idea too,like a mystical being character or something of the sort....that shadow-shape-person on the left of the album I always thought was either the Starbreaker or the Sinner when I was 11 years old in 1981 when I bought the LP ha!
| | | spapad wrote: | | It's about fate interceding told in a grand way in my opinion. I love the lyrics, and no doubt they did feel like it only comes once a lifetime.
| | | Becks wrote: | | I completely forgot he is such a big sci fi fan, and the band making it to the top thing is something that never crossed my mind lol. I knew it was about a sci fi character, as Rob tends to write about often. No homosexual undertones or anything there lol.
| | | spapad wrote: | | I thought it was evident. Just makes sense from the place in time he wrote it from.
| | | Becks wrote: | | That makes sense Spa!
| | | spapad wrote: | | I actually saw Starbreaker as a cross between science fiction and also the bullshit bands have to go thorough to hope to be the "chosen few" .
(Quoting Message by HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS from Friday, March 11, 2011 9:46:40 PM)
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Not to mention the fact that Rob is really into Science Fiction. That's what I get from the song too, it's science fiction about a "savior" that will take us to paradise (or looking at it now, I suppose it could be about drugs?). And I agree completely Becks, just because Rob is gay doesn't mean every song he writes has homosexual undertones..... I'm really sick of fans thinking every song is gay now that Rob came out. Before no one ever thought they were, but now some people see it in every song. And even if it is, WHO CARES???
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To me it's a typical Priest made up character song, some dude called Starbreaker taking people away to space or something 'star voyage to a new world, lightyear miles away' etc.
Bear in mind I am a very literal person, I don't read undertones very well, but in saying that I find it very hard on reading the lyrics to pick up any gay undertone. Just cos Rob is gay doesn't mean every crazy Priest song is about gay stuff LOL.
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I never made that connection to be honest. And reading the lyrics again, I still don't LOL
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Starbreaker's totally about buggering boys Becks, come on.
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I'd say that's the most overrated. Apart from Sinner and Dissident Aggressor the rest is pretty average.
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| [J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, March 11, 2011 11:37:06 PM | |
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Those shoes are HOT!  lol Guido!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Friday, March 11, 2011 11:35:11 PM)| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | I think she is the temptress leading Man to sin. Look at those shoes! Eve revisited (with 'nice gams' - as gramps would say).
| | | spapad wrote: | | Castin couch comes to mind if you go that way. I still think she is the unknown, and he is the maker.
| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | lol! Neah I like your idea yeah the female with her head lowered in shame is the Sinner and the figure is Starbreaker ha!
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Since you bring it up with a picture...I say that the female with her head lowered in shame must be the sinner tempted by the figure in black!
Ok, so the lyrics don't really back me up on this one. She can be the Starbreaker, then. lol
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I always thought Starbreaker was a Sci-Fi idea too,like a mystical being character or something of the sort....that shadow-shape-person on the left of the album I always thought was either the Starbreaker or the Sinner when I was 11 years old in 1981 when I bought the LP ha!
| | | spapad wrote: | | It's about fate interceding told in a grand way in my opinion. I love the lyrics, and no doubt they did feel like it only comes once a lifetime.
| | | Becks wrote: | | I completely forgot he is such a big sci fi fan, and the band making it to the top thing is something that never crossed my mind lol. I knew it was about a sci fi character, as Rob tends to write about often. No homosexual undertones or anything there lol.
| | | spapad wrote: | | I thought it was evident. Just makes sense from the place in time he wrote it from.
| | | Becks wrote: | | That makes sense Spa!
| | | spapad wrote: | | I actually saw Starbreaker as a cross between science fiction and also the bullshit bands have to go thorough to hope to be the "chosen few" .
(Quoting Message by HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS from Friday, March 11, 2011 9:46:40 PM)
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Not to mention the fact that Rob is really into Science Fiction. That's what I get from the song too, it's science fiction about a "savior" that will take us to paradise (or looking at it now, I suppose it could be about drugs?). And I agree completely Becks, just because Rob is gay doesn't mean every song he writes has homosexual undertones..... I'm really sick of fans thinking every song is gay now that Rob came out. Before no one ever thought they were, but now some people see it in every song. And even if it is, WHO CARES???
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To me it's a typical Priest made up character song, some dude called Starbreaker taking people away to space or something 'star voyage to a new world, lightyear miles away' etc.
Bear in mind I am a very literal person, I don't read undertones very well, but in saying that I find it very hard on reading the lyrics to pick up any gay undertone. Just cos Rob is gay doesn't mean every crazy Priest song is about gay stuff LOL.
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What do you think it's about?
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I never made that connection to be honest. And reading the lyrics again, I still don't LOL
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Starbreaker's totally about buggering boys Becks, come on.
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Starbreaker is a favourite of mine besides those two, the album is in my car CD player at the moment actually lol.
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| [Head banger] Friday, March 11, 2011 11:36:26 PM | |
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well, most she's are unknown to men....
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Friday, March 11, 2011 11:27:34 PM)| | | spapad wrote: | | Castin couch comes to mind if you go that way. I still think she is the unknown, and he is the maker.
| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | lol! Neah I like your idea yeah the female with her head lowered in shame is the Sinner and the figure is Starbreaker ha!
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Since you bring it up with a picture...I say that the female with her head lowered in shame must be the sinner tempted by the figure in black!
Ok, so the lyrics don't really back me up on this one. She can be the Starbreaker, then. lol
| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | |
I always thought Starbreaker was a Sci-Fi idea too,like a mystical being character or something of the sort....that shadow-shape-person on the left of the album I always thought was either the Starbreaker or the Sinner when I was 11 years old in 1981 when I bought the LP ha!
| | | spapad wrote: | | It's about fate interceding told in a grand way in my opinion. I love the lyrics, and no doubt they did feel like it only comes once a lifetime.
| | | Becks wrote: | | I completely forgot he is such a big sci fi fan, and the band making it to the top thing is something that never crossed my mind lol. I knew it was about a sci fi character, as Rob tends to write about often. No homosexual undertones or anything there lol.
| | | spapad wrote: | | I thought it was evident. Just makes sense from the place in time he wrote it from.
| | | Becks wrote: | | That makes sense Spa!
| | | spapad wrote: | | I actually saw Starbreaker as a cross between science fiction and also the bullshit bands have to go thorough to hope to be the "chosen few" .
(Quoting Message by HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS from Friday, March 11, 2011 9:46:40 PM)
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Not to mention the fact that Rob is really into Science Fiction. That's what I get from the song too, it's science fiction about a "savior" that will take us to paradise (or looking at it now, I suppose it could be about drugs?). And I agree completely Becks, just because Rob is gay doesn't mean every song he writes has homosexual undertones..... I'm really sick of fans thinking every song is gay now that Rob came out. Before no one ever thought they were, but now some people see it in every song. And even if it is, WHO CARES???
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To me it's a typical Priest made up character song, some dude called Starbreaker taking people away to space or something 'star voyage to a new world, lightyear miles away' etc.
Bear in mind I am a very literal person, I don't read undertones very well, but in saying that I find it very hard on reading the lyrics to pick up any gay undertone. Just cos Rob is gay doesn't mean every crazy Priest song is about gay stuff LOL.
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I never made that connection to be honest. And reading the lyrics again, I still don't LOL
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Starbreaker's totally about buggering boys Becks, come on.
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Starbreaker is a favourite of mine besides those two, the album is in my car CD player at the moment actually lol.
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I'd say that's the most overrated. Apart from Sinner and Dissident Aggressor the rest is pretty average.
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I think she is the temptress leading Man to sin. Look at those shoes! Eve revisited (with 'nice gams' - as gramps would say).
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Friday, March 11, 2011 11:27:34 PM)| | | spapad wrote: | | Castin couch comes to mind if you go that way. I still think she is the unknown, and he is the maker.
| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | lol! Neah I like your idea yeah the female with her head lowered in shame is the Sinner and the figure is Starbreaker ha!
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Since you bring it up with a picture...I say that the female with her head lowered in shame must be the sinner tempted by the figure in black!
Ok, so the lyrics don't really back me up on this one. She can be the Starbreaker, then. lol
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I always thought Starbreaker was a Sci-Fi idea too,like a mystical being character or something of the sort....that shadow-shape-person on the left of the album I always thought was either the Starbreaker or the Sinner when I was 11 years old in 1981 when I bought the LP ha!
| | | spapad wrote: | | It's about fate interceding told in a grand way in my opinion. I love the lyrics, and no doubt they did feel like it only comes once a lifetime.
| | | Becks wrote: | | I completely forgot he is such a big sci fi fan, and the band making it to the top thing is something that never crossed my mind lol. I knew it was about a sci fi character, as Rob tends to write about often. No homosexual undertones or anything there lol.
| | | spapad wrote: | | I thought it was evident. Just makes sense from the place in time he wrote it from.
| | | Becks wrote: | | That makes sense Spa!
| | | spapad wrote: | | I actually saw Starbreaker as a cross between science fiction and also the bullshit bands have to go thorough to hope to be the "chosen few" .
(Quoting Message by HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS from Friday, March 11, 2011 9:46:40 PM)
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Not to mention the fact that Rob is really into Science Fiction. That's what I get from the song too, it's science fiction about a "savior" that will take us to paradise (or looking at it now, I suppose it could be about drugs?). And I agree completely Becks, just because Rob is gay doesn't mean every song he writes has homosexual undertones..... I'm really sick of fans thinking every song is gay now that Rob came out. Before no one ever thought they were, but now some people see it in every song. And even if it is, WHO CARES???
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To me it's a typical Priest made up character song, some dude called Starbreaker taking people away to space or something 'star voyage to a new world, lightyear miles away' etc.
Bear in mind I am a very literal person, I don't read undertones very well, but in saying that I find it very hard on reading the lyrics to pick up any gay undertone. Just cos Rob is gay doesn't mean every crazy Priest song is about gay stuff LOL.
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What do you think it's about?
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I never made that connection to be honest. And reading the lyrics again, I still don't LOL
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Starbreaker's totally about buggering boys Becks, come on.
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Starbreaker is a favourite of mine besides those two, the album is in my car CD player at the moment actually lol.
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I'd say that's the most overrated. Apart from Sinner and Dissident Aggressor the rest is pretty average.
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| [J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, March 11, 2011 11:34:41 PM | |
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Yeah many people think Rob is the only one who write lyrics,and he does 80% of them but in the past Glenn and K.K. did contribute to some,and as we all know almost all tracks are Halford/Downing/Tipton so I highly doubt that K.K. and Glenn would let a song get through being about homosexuality,besides Rob already said all Priest lyrics are not about homosexuality.....maybe "Raw Deal" from Sin After Sin has some hints in it,but thats few and far between though,same with Evil Fantasies too perhaps but I'm just speculating....Starbreaker definately has nothing to do with homosexuality,if it did I'd be utterly shocked because the lyrics have nothing to do with any of this.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS from Friday, March 11, 2011 11:27:58 PM)| | | HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote: | | I never thought about that aspect of it, all the bullshit bands go through to become the chosen few. But that makes a lot of sense. I always just thought about it as a sci fi story of escaping the bullshit in this world and being chosen to be taken away to paradise. We always think of other life forms as being far superior to us and their worlds being "like paradise". One thing that I've now realized about Rob's writing is that he tends to blend a couple stories or ideas together. But you, Becks and I pretty much interpret it the same way and it's definitely NOT what JJ is saying!
| | | spapad wrote: | | I actually saw Starbreaker as a cross between science fiction and also the bullshit bands have to go thorough to hope to be the "chosen few" .
(Quoting Message by HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS from Friday, March 11, 2011 9:46:40 PM)
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Not to mention the fact that Rob is really into Science Fiction. That's what I get from the song too, it's science fiction about a "savior" that will take us to paradise (or looking at it now, I suppose it could be about drugs?). And I agree completely Becks, just because Rob is gay doesn't mean every song he writes has homosexual undertones..... I'm really sick of fans thinking every song is gay now that Rob came out. Before no one ever thought they were, but now some people see it in every song. And even if it is, WHO CARES???
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To me it's a typical Priest made up character song, some dude called Starbreaker taking people away to space or something 'star voyage to a new world, lightyear miles away' etc.
Bear in mind I am a very literal person, I don't read undertones very well, but in saying that I find it very hard on reading the lyrics to pick up any gay undertone. Just cos Rob is gay doesn't mean every crazy Priest song is about gay stuff LOL.
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What do you think it's about?
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I never made that connection to be honest. And reading the lyrics again, I still don't LOL
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Starbreaker's totally about buggering boys Becks, come on.
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Starbreaker is a favourite of mine besides those two, the album is in my car CD player at the moment actually lol.
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I'd say that's the most overrated. Apart from Sinner and Dissident Aggressor the rest is pretty average.
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JJ was off about 10 miles or so. Now if he wants to talk about Raw Deal, I give it NO contest, but STILL............I LOVE that song!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS from Friday, March 11, 2011 11:27:58 PM)| | | HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote: | | I never thought about that aspect of it, all the bullshit bands go through to become the chosen few. But that makes a lot of sense. I always just thought about it as a sci fi story of escaping the bullshit in this world and being chosen to be taken away to paradise. We always think of other life forms as being far superior to us and their worlds being "like paradise". One thing that I've now realized about Rob's writing is that he tends to blend a couple stories or ideas together. But you, Becks and I pretty much interpret it the same way and it's definitely NOT what JJ is saying!
| | | spapad wrote: | | I actually saw Starbreaker as a cross between science fiction and also the bullshit bands have to go thorough to hope to be the "chosen few" .
(Quoting Message by HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS from Friday, March 11, 2011 9:46:40 PM)
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Not to mention the fact that Rob is really into Science Fiction. That's what I get from the song too, it's science fiction about a "savior" that will take us to paradise (or looking at it now, I suppose it could be about drugs?). And I agree completely Becks, just because Rob is gay doesn't mean every song he writes has homosexual undertones..... I'm really sick of fans thinking every song is gay now that Rob came out. Before no one ever thought they were, but now some people see it in every song. And even if it is, WHO CARES???
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To me it's a typical Priest made up character song, some dude called Starbreaker taking people away to space or something 'star voyage to a new world, lightyear miles away' etc.
Bear in mind I am a very literal person, I don't read undertones very well, but in saying that I find it very hard on reading the lyrics to pick up any gay undertone. Just cos Rob is gay doesn't mean every crazy Priest song is about gay stuff LOL.
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What do you think it's about?
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I never made that connection to be honest. And reading the lyrics again, I still don't LOL
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Starbreaker's totally about buggering boys Becks, come on.
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Starbreaker is a favourite of mine besides those two, the album is in my car CD player at the moment actually lol.
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I'd say that's the most overrated. Apart from Sinner and Dissident Aggressor the rest is pretty average.
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| [HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Friday, March 11, 2011 11:27:58 PM | |
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I never thought about that aspect of it, all the bullshit bands go through to become the chosen few. But that makes a lot of sense. I always just thought about it as a sci fi story of escaping the bullshit in this world and being chosen to be taken away to paradise. We always think of other life forms as being far superior to us and their worlds being "like paradise". One thing that I've now realized about Rob's writing is that he tends to blend a couple stories or ideas together. But you, Becks and I pretty much interpret it the same way and it's definitely NOT what JJ is saying!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Friday, March 11, 2011 10:14:19 PM)| | | spapad wrote: | | I actually saw Starbreaker as a cross between science fiction and also the bullshit bands have to go thorough to hope to be the "chosen few" .
(Quoting Message by HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS from Friday, March 11, 2011 9:46:40 PM)
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HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote: |
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Not to mention the fact that Rob is really into Science Fiction. That's what I get from the song too, it's science fiction about a "savior" that will take us to paradise (or looking at it now, I suppose it could be about drugs?). And I agree completely Becks, just because Rob is gay doesn't mean every song he writes has homosexual undertones..... I'm really sick of fans thinking every song is gay now that Rob came out. Before no one ever thought they were, but now some people see it in every song. And even if it is, WHO CARES???
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Becks wrote: |
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To me it's a typical Priest made up character song, some dude called Starbreaker taking people away to space or something 'star voyage to a new world, lightyear miles away' etc.
Bear in mind I am a very literal person, I don't read undertones very well, but in saying that I find it very hard on reading the lyrics to pick up any gay undertone. Just cos Rob is gay doesn't mean every crazy Priest song is about gay stuff LOL.
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What do you think it's about?
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Becks wrote: |
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I never made that connection to be honest. And reading the lyrics again, I still don't LOL
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Starbreaker's totally about buggering boys Becks, come on.
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Starbreaker is a favourite of mine besides those two, the album is in my car CD player at the moment actually lol.
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I'd say that's the most overrated. Apart from Sinner and Dissident Aggressor the rest is pretty average.
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| [spapad] Friday, March 11, 2011 11:27:34 PM | |
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Castin couch comes to mind if you go that way. I still think she is the unknown, and he is the maker.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Friday, March 11, 2011 11:21:28 PM)| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | lol! Neah I like your idea yeah the female with her head lowered in shame is the Sinner and the figure is Starbreaker ha!
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Since you bring it up with a picture...I say that the female with her head lowered in shame must be the sinner tempted by the figure in black!
Ok, so the lyrics don't really back me up on this one. She can be the Starbreaker, then. lol
| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | |
I always thought Starbreaker was a Sci-Fi idea too,like a mystical being character or something of the sort....that shadow-shape-person on the left of the album I always thought was either the Starbreaker or the Sinner when I was 11 years old in 1981 when I bought the LP ha!
| | | spapad wrote: | | It's about fate interceding told in a grand way in my opinion. I love the lyrics, and no doubt they did feel like it only comes once a lifetime.
| | | Becks wrote: | | I completely forgot he is such a big sci fi fan, and the band making it to the top thing is something that never crossed my mind lol. I knew it was about a sci fi character, as Rob tends to write about often. No homosexual undertones or anything there lol.
| | | spapad wrote: | | I thought it was evident. Just makes sense from the place in time he wrote it from.
| | | Becks wrote: | | That makes sense Spa!
| | | spapad wrote: | | I actually saw Starbreaker as a cross between science fiction and also the bullshit bands have to go thorough to hope to be the "chosen few" .
(Quoting Message by HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS from Friday, March 11, 2011 9:46:40 PM)
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HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote: |
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Not to mention the fact that Rob is really into Science Fiction. That's what I get from the song too, it's science fiction about a "savior" that will take us to paradise (or looking at it now, I suppose it could be about drugs?). And I agree completely Becks, just because Rob is gay doesn't mean every song he writes has homosexual undertones..... I'm really sick of fans thinking every song is gay now that Rob came out. Before no one ever thought they were, but now some people see it in every song. And even if it is, WHO CARES???
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Becks wrote: |
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To me it's a typical Priest made up character song, some dude called Starbreaker taking people away to space or something 'star voyage to a new world, lightyear miles away' etc.
Bear in mind I am a very literal person, I don't read undertones very well, but in saying that I find it very hard on reading the lyrics to pick up any gay undertone. Just cos Rob is gay doesn't mean every crazy Priest song is about gay stuff LOL.
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What do you think it's about?
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Becks wrote: |
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I never made that connection to be honest. And reading the lyrics again, I still don't LOL
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jimmyjames wrote: |
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Starbreaker's totally about buggering boys Becks, come on.
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Starbreaker is a favourite of mine besides those two, the album is in my car CD player at the moment actually lol.
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I'd say that's the most overrated. Apart from Sinner and Dissident Aggressor the rest is pretty average.
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| [J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, March 11, 2011 11:21:28 PM | |
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lol! Neah I like your idea yeah the female with her head lowered in shame is the Sinner and the figure is Starbreaker ha!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Friday, March 11, 2011 11:19:36 PM)| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Since you bring it up with a picture...I say that the female with her head lowered in shame must be the sinner tempted by the figure in black!
Ok, so the lyrics don't really back me up on this one. She can be the Starbreaker, then. lol
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I always thought Starbreaker was a Sci-Fi idea too,like a mystical being character or something of the sort....that shadow-shape-person on the left of the album I always thought was either the Starbreaker or the Sinner when I was 11 years old in 1981 when I bought the LP ha!
| | | spapad wrote: | | It's about fate interceding told in a grand way in my opinion. I love the lyrics, and no doubt they did feel like it only comes once a lifetime.
| | | Becks wrote: | | I completely forgot he is such a big sci fi fan, and the band making it to the top thing is something that never crossed my mind lol. I knew it was about a sci fi character, as Rob tends to write about often. No homosexual undertones or anything there lol.
| | | spapad wrote: | | I thought it was evident. Just makes sense from the place in time he wrote it from.
| | | Becks wrote: | | That makes sense Spa!
| | | spapad wrote: | | I actually saw Starbreaker as a cross between science fiction and also the bullshit bands have to go thorough to hope to be the "chosen few" .
(Quoting Message by HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS from Friday, March 11, 2011 9:46:40 PM)
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HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote: |
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Not to mention the fact that Rob is really into Science Fiction. That's what I get from the song too, it's science fiction about a "savior" that will take us to paradise (or looking at it now, I suppose it could be about drugs?). And I agree completely Becks, just because Rob is gay doesn't mean every song he writes has homosexual undertones..... I'm really sick of fans thinking every song is gay now that Rob came out. Before no one ever thought they were, but now some people see it in every song. And even if it is, WHO CARES???
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To me it's a typical Priest made up character song, some dude called Starbreaker taking people away to space or something 'star voyage to a new world, lightyear miles away' etc.
Bear in mind I am a very literal person, I don't read undertones very well, but in saying that I find it very hard on reading the lyrics to pick up any gay undertone. Just cos Rob is gay doesn't mean every crazy Priest song is about gay stuff LOL.
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What do you think it's about?
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Becks wrote: |
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I never made that connection to be honest. And reading the lyrics again, I still don't LOL
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Starbreaker's totally about buggering boys Becks, come on.
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Starbreaker is a favourite of mine besides those two, the album is in my car CD player at the moment actually lol.
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I'd say that's the most overrated. Apart from Sinner and Dissident Aggressor the rest is pretty average.
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Since you bring it up with a picture...I say that the female with her head lowered in shame must be the sinner tempted by the figure in black!
Ok, so the lyrics don't really back me up on this one. She can be the Starbreaker, then. lol
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Friday, March 11, 2011 11:16:14 PM)| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | |
I always thought Starbreaker was a Sci-Fi idea too,like a mystical being character or something of the sort....that shadow-shape-person on the left of the album I always thought was either the Starbreaker or the Sinner when I was 11 years old in 1981 when I bought the LP ha!
| | | spapad wrote: | | It's about fate interceding told in a grand way in my opinion. I love the lyrics, and no doubt they did feel like it only comes once a lifetime.
| | | Becks wrote: | | I completely forgot he is such a big sci fi fan, and the band making it to the top thing is something that never crossed my mind lol. I knew it was about a sci fi character, as Rob tends to write about often. No homosexual undertones or anything there lol.
| | | spapad wrote: | | I thought it was evident. Just makes sense from the place in time he wrote it from.
| | | Becks wrote: | | That makes sense Spa!
| | | spapad wrote: | | I actually saw Starbreaker as a cross between science fiction and also the bullshit bands have to go thorough to hope to be the "chosen few" .
(Quoting Message by HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS from Friday, March 11, 2011 9:46:40 PM)
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Not to mention the fact that Rob is really into Science Fiction. That's what I get from the song too, it's science fiction about a "savior" that will take us to paradise (or looking at it now, I suppose it could be about drugs?). And I agree completely Becks, just because Rob is gay doesn't mean every song he writes has homosexual undertones..... I'm really sick of fans thinking every song is gay now that Rob came out. Before no one ever thought they were, but now some people see it in every song. And even if it is, WHO CARES???
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To me it's a typical Priest made up character song, some dude called Starbreaker taking people away to space or something 'star voyage to a new world, lightyear miles away' etc.
Bear in mind I am a very literal person, I don't read undertones very well, but in saying that I find it very hard on reading the lyrics to pick up any gay undertone. Just cos Rob is gay doesn't mean every crazy Priest song is about gay stuff LOL.
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What do you think it's about?
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Becks wrote: |
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I never made that connection to be honest. And reading the lyrics again, I still don't LOL
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Starbreaker's totally about buggering boys Becks, come on.
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Starbreaker is a favourite of mine besides those two, the album is in my car CD player at the moment actually lol.
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I'd say that's the most overrated. Apart from Sinner and Dissident Aggressor the rest is pretty average.
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I think the Starbreaker is the man in the background. Shrouded in mystery. lol She is the new star, therefore anonymous until he touches her. lol
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Friday, March 11, 2011 11:16:14 PM)
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I always thought Starbreaker was a Sci-Fi idea too,like a mystical being character or something of the sort....that shadow-shape-person on the left of the album I always thought was either the Starbreaker or the Sinner when I was 11 years old in 1981 when I bought the LP ha!
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It's about fate interceding told in a grand way in my opinion. I love the lyrics, and no doubt they did feel like it only comes once a lifetime.
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Becks wrote: |
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I completely forgot he is such a big sci fi fan, and the band making it to the top thing is something that never crossed my mind lol. I knew it was about a sci fi character, as Rob tends to write about often. No homosexual undertones or anything there lol.
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I thought it was evident. Just makes sense from the place in time he wrote it from.
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That makes sense Spa!
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I actually saw Starbreaker as a cross between science fiction and also the bullshit bands have to go thorough to hope to be the "chosen few" .
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Not to mention the fact that Rob is really into Science Fiction. That's what I get from the song too, it's science fiction about a "savior" that will take us to paradise (or looking at it now, I suppose it could be about drugs?). And I agree completely Becks, just because Rob is gay doesn't mean every song he writes has homosexual undertones..... I'm really sick of fans thinking every song is gay now that Rob came out. Before no one ever thought they were, but now some people see it in every song. And even if it is, WHO CARES???
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To me it's a typical Priest made up character song, some dude called Starbreaker taking people away to space or something 'star voyage to a new world, lightyear miles away' etc.
Bear in mind I am a very literal person, I don't read undertones very well, but in saying that I find it very hard on reading the lyrics to pick up any gay undertone. Just cos Rob is gay doesn't mean every crazy Priest song is about gay stuff LOL.
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What do you think it's about?
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I never made that connection to be honest. And reading the lyrics again, I still don't LOL
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Starbreaker's totally about buggering boys Becks, come on.
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Starbreaker is a favourite of mine besides those two, the album is in my car CD player at the moment actually lol.
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I'd say that's the most overrated. Apart from Sinner and Dissident Aggressor the rest is pretty average.
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I always thought Starbreaker was a Sci-Fi idea too,like a mystical being character or something of the sort....that shadow-shape-person on the left of the album I always thought was either the Starbreaker or the Sinner when I was 11 years old in 1981 when I bought the LP ha!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Friday, March 11, 2011 11:07:07 PM)| | | spapad wrote: | | It's about fate interceding told in a grand way in my opinion. I love the lyrics, and no doubt they did feel like it only comes once a lifetime.
| | | Becks wrote: | | I completely forgot he is such a big sci fi fan, and the band making it to the top thing is something that never crossed my mind lol. I knew it was about a sci fi character, as Rob tends to write about often. No homosexual undertones or anything there lol.
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| | | Becks wrote: | | That makes sense Spa!
| | | spapad wrote: | | I actually saw Starbreaker as a cross between science fiction and also the bullshit bands have to go thorough to hope to be the "chosen few" .
(Quoting Message by HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS from Friday, March 11, 2011 9:46:40 PM)
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Not to mention the fact that Rob is really into Science Fiction. That's what I get from the song too, it's science fiction about a "savior" that will take us to paradise (or looking at it now, I suppose it could be about drugs?). And I agree completely Becks, just because Rob is gay doesn't mean every song he writes has homosexual undertones..... I'm really sick of fans thinking every song is gay now that Rob came out. Before no one ever thought they were, but now some people see it in every song. And even if it is, WHO CARES???
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To me it's a typical Priest made up character song, some dude called Starbreaker taking people away to space or something 'star voyage to a new world, lightyear miles away' etc.
Bear in mind I am a very literal person, I don't read undertones very well, but in saying that I find it very hard on reading the lyrics to pick up any gay undertone. Just cos Rob is gay doesn't mean every crazy Priest song is about gay stuff LOL.
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What do you think it's about?
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I never made that connection to be honest. And reading the lyrics again, I still don't LOL
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Starbreaker's totally about buggering boys Becks, come on.
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Starbreaker is a favourite of mine besides those two, the album is in my car CD player at the moment actually lol.
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I'd say that's the most overrated. Apart from Sinner and Dissident Aggressor the rest is pretty average.
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It's about fate interceding told in a grand way in my opinion. I love the lyrics, and no doubt they did feel like it only comes once a lifetime.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Becks from Friday, March 11, 2011 11:05:10 PM)| | | Becks wrote: | | I completely forgot he is such a big sci fi fan, and the band making it to the top thing is something that never crossed my mind lol. I knew it was about a sci fi character, as Rob tends to write about often. No homosexual undertones or anything there lol.
| | | spapad wrote: | | I thought it was evident. Just makes sense from the place in time he wrote it from.
| | | Becks wrote: | | That makes sense Spa!
| | | spapad wrote: | | I actually saw Starbreaker as a cross between science fiction and also the bullshit bands have to go thorough to hope to be the "chosen few" .
(Quoting Message by HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS from Friday, March 11, 2011 9:46:40 PM)
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HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote: |
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Not to mention the fact that Rob is really into Science Fiction. That's what I get from the song too, it's science fiction about a "savior" that will take us to paradise (or looking at it now, I suppose it could be about drugs?). And I agree completely Becks, just because Rob is gay doesn't mean every song he writes has homosexual undertones..... I'm really sick of fans thinking every song is gay now that Rob came out. Before no one ever thought they were, but now some people see it in every song. And even if it is, WHO CARES???
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To me it's a typical Priest made up character song, some dude called Starbreaker taking people away to space or something 'star voyage to a new world, lightyear miles away' etc.
Bear in mind I am a very literal person, I don't read undertones very well, but in saying that I find it very hard on reading the lyrics to pick up any gay undertone. Just cos Rob is gay doesn't mean every crazy Priest song is about gay stuff LOL.
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What do you think it's about?
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I never made that connection to be honest. And reading the lyrics again, I still don't LOL
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Starbreaker's totally about buggering boys Becks, come on.
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Starbreaker is a favourite of mine besides those two, the album is in my car CD player at the moment actually lol.
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I'd say that's the most overrated. Apart from Sinner and Dissident Aggressor the rest is pretty average.
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I completely forgot he is such a big sci fi fan, and the band making it to the top thing is something that never crossed my mind lol. I knew it was about a sci fi character, as Rob tends to write about often. No homosexual undertones or anything there lol.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Friday, March 11, 2011 10:53:22 PM)| | | spapad wrote: | | I thought it was evident. Just makes sense from the place in time he wrote it from.
| | | Becks wrote: | | That makes sense Spa!
| | | spapad wrote: | | I actually saw Starbreaker as a cross between science fiction and also the bullshit bands have to go thorough to hope to be the "chosen few" .
(Quoting Message by HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS from Friday, March 11, 2011 9:46:40 PM)
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Not to mention the fact that Rob is really into Science Fiction. That's what I get from the song too, it's science fiction about a "savior" that will take us to paradise (or looking at it now, I suppose it could be about drugs?). And I agree completely Becks, just because Rob is gay doesn't mean every song he writes has homosexual undertones..... I'm really sick of fans thinking every song is gay now that Rob came out. Before no one ever thought they were, but now some people see it in every song. And even if it is, WHO CARES???
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Becks wrote: |
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To me it's a typical Priest made up character song, some dude called Starbreaker taking people away to space or something 'star voyage to a new world, lightyear miles away' etc.
Bear in mind I am a very literal person, I don't read undertones very well, but in saying that I find it very hard on reading the lyrics to pick up any gay undertone. Just cos Rob is gay doesn't mean every crazy Priest song is about gay stuff LOL.
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What do you think it's about?
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Becks wrote: |
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I never made that connection to be honest. And reading the lyrics again, I still don't LOL
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Starbreaker's totally about buggering boys Becks, come on.
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Starbreaker is a favourite of mine besides those two, the album is in my car CD player at the moment actually lol.
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I'd say that's the most overrated. Apart from Sinner and Dissident Aggressor the rest is pretty average.
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| [spapad] Friday, March 11, 2011 10:53:22 PM | |
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I thought it was evident. Just makes sense from the place in time he wrote it from.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Becks from Friday, March 11, 2011 10:51:44 PM)| | | Becks wrote: | | That makes sense Spa!
| | | spapad wrote: | | I actually saw Starbreaker as a cross between science fiction and also the bullshit bands have to go thorough to hope to be the "chosen few" .
(Quoting Message by HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS from Friday, March 11, 2011 9:46:40 PM)
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Not to mention the fact that Rob is really into Science Fiction. That's what I get from the song too, it's science fiction about a "savior" that will take us to paradise (or looking at it now, I suppose it could be about drugs?). And I agree completely Becks, just because Rob is gay doesn't mean every song he writes has homosexual undertones..... I'm really sick of fans thinking every song is gay now that Rob came out. Before no one ever thought they were, but now some people see it in every song. And even if it is, WHO CARES???
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To me it's a typical Priest made up character song, some dude called Starbreaker taking people away to space or something 'star voyage to a new world, lightyear miles away' etc.
Bear in mind I am a very literal person, I don't read undertones very well, but in saying that I find it very hard on reading the lyrics to pick up any gay undertone. Just cos Rob is gay doesn't mean every crazy Priest song is about gay stuff LOL.
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What do you think it's about?
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Becks wrote: |
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I never made that connection to be honest. And reading the lyrics again, I still don't LOL
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Starbreaker's totally about buggering boys Becks, come on.
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Starbreaker is a favourite of mine besides those two, the album is in my car CD player at the moment actually lol.
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I'd say that's the most overrated. Apart from Sinner and Dissident Aggressor the rest is pretty average.
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That makes sense Spa!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Friday, March 11, 2011 10:14:19 PM)| | | spapad wrote: | | I actually saw Starbreaker as a cross between science fiction and also the bullshit bands have to go thorough to hope to be the "chosen few" .
(Quoting Message by HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS from Friday, March 11, 2011 9:46:40 PM)
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Not to mention the fact that Rob is really into Science Fiction. That's what I get from the song too, it's science fiction about a "savior" that will take us to paradise (or looking at it now, I suppose it could be about drugs?). And I agree completely Becks, just because Rob is gay doesn't mean every song he writes has homosexual undertones..... I'm really sick of fans thinking every song is gay now that Rob came out. Before no one ever thought they were, but now some people see it in every song. And even if it is, WHO CARES???
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Becks wrote: |
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To me it's a typical Priest made up character song, some dude called Starbreaker taking people away to space or something 'star voyage to a new world, lightyear miles away' etc.
Bear in mind I am a very literal person, I don't read undertones very well, but in saying that I find it very hard on reading the lyrics to pick up any gay undertone. Just cos Rob is gay doesn't mean every crazy Priest song is about gay stuff LOL.
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What do you think it's about?
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Becks wrote: |
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I never made that connection to be honest. And reading the lyrics again, I still don't LOL
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jimmyjames wrote: |
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Starbreaker's totally about buggering boys Becks, come on.
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Starbreaker is a favourite of mine besides those two, the album is in my car CD player at the moment actually lol.
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I'd say that's the most overrated. Apart from Sinner and Dissident Aggressor the rest is pretty average.
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I actually saw Starbreaker as a cross between science fiction and also the bullshit bands have to go thorough to hope to be the "chosen few" .
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS from Friday, March 11, 2011 9:46:40 PM)
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Not to mention the fact that Rob is really into Science Fiction. That's what I get from the song too, it's science fiction about a "savior" that will take us to paradise (or looking at it now, I suppose it could be about drugs?). And I agree completely Becks, just because Rob is gay doesn't mean every song he writes has homosexual undertones..... I'm really sick of fans thinking every song is gay now that Rob came out. Before no one ever thought they were, but now some people see it in every song. And even if it is, WHO CARES???
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Becks wrote: |
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To me it's a typical Priest made up character song, some dude called Starbreaker taking people away to space or something 'star voyage to a new world, lightyear miles away' etc.
Bear in mind I am a very literal person, I don't read undertones very well, but in saying that I find it very hard on reading the lyrics to pick up any gay undertone. Just cos Rob is gay doesn't mean every crazy Priest song is about gay stuff LOL.
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jimmyjames wrote: |
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What do you think it's about?
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Becks wrote: |
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I never made that connection to be honest. And reading the lyrics again, I still don't LOL
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jimmyjames wrote: |
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Starbreaker's totally about buggering boys Becks, come on.
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Starbreaker is a favourite of mine besides those two, the album is in my car CD player at the moment actually lol.
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I'd say that's the most overrated. Apart from Sinner and Dissident Aggressor the rest is pretty average.
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Oh yeah I forgot he's a big sci fi fan  lol! I would love to hear that song too, actually, I'd love them to play all their songs, LMAO!
Well maybe not all of their songs, there's a few I'd really rather not hear LOL but anyways, if they come to NZ I will be a happy camper lol.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS from Friday, March 11, 2011 9:46:40 PM)
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Not to mention the fact that Rob is really into Science Fiction. That's what I get from the song too, it's science fiction about a "savior" that will take us to paradise (or looking at it now, I suppose it could be about drugs?). And I agree completely Becks, just because Rob is gay doesn't mean every song he writes has homosexual undertones..... I'm really sick of fans thinking every song is gay now that Rob came out. Before no one ever thought they were, but now some people see it in every song. And even if it is, WHO CARES???
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To me it's a typical Priest made up character song, some dude called Starbreaker taking people away to space or something 'star voyage to a new world, lightyear miles away' etc.
Bear in mind I am a very literal person, I don't read undertones very well, but in saying that I find it very hard on reading the lyrics to pick up any gay undertone. Just cos Rob is gay doesn't mean every crazy Priest song is about gay stuff LOL.
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What do you think it's about?
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Becks wrote: |
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I never made that connection to be honest. And reading the lyrics again, I still don't LOL
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Starbreaker's totally about buggering boys Becks, come on.
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Starbreaker is a favourite of mine besides those two, the album is in my car CD player at the moment actually lol.
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I'd say that's the most overrated. Apart from Sinner and Dissident Aggressor the rest is pretty average.
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Not to mention the fact that Rob is really into Science Fiction. That's what I get from the song too, it's science fiction about a "savior" that will take us to paradise (or looking at it now, I suppose it could be about drugs?). And I agree completely Becks, just because Rob is gay doesn't mean every song he writes has homosexual undertones..... I'm really sick of fans thinking every song is gay now that Rob came out. Before no one ever thought they were, but now some people see it in every song. And even if it is, WHO CARES???
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Becks from Friday, March 11, 2011 7:24:55 PM)| | | Becks wrote: | | To me it's a typical Priest made up character song, some dude called Starbreaker taking people away to space or something 'star voyage to a new world, lightyear miles away' etc.
Bear in mind I am a very literal person, I don't read undertones very well, but in saying that I find it very hard on reading the lyrics to pick up any gay undertone. Just cos Rob is gay doesn't mean every crazy Priest song is about gay stuff LOL.
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | What do you think it's about?
| | | Becks wrote: | | I never made that connection to be honest. And reading the lyrics again, I still don't LOL
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | Starbreaker's totally about buggering boys Becks, come on.
| | | Becks wrote: | | Starbreaker is a favourite of mine besides those two, the album is in my car CD player at the moment actually lol.
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | I'd say that's the most overrated. Apart from Sinner and Dissident Aggressor the rest is pretty average.
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| [HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Friday, March 11, 2011 9:30:42 PM | |
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You never made that connection because that is NOT what the song is about Becks. JJ's completely off on this one. And I really hope they play Starbreaker with an extended drum solo on the Epitaph tour, that would totally kick ass!!!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Becks from Friday, March 11, 2011 1:37:17 AM)| | | Becks wrote: | | I never made that connection to be honest. And reading the lyrics again, I still don't LOL
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | Starbreaker's totally about buggering boys Becks, come on.
| | | Becks wrote: | | Starbreaker is a favourite of mine besides those two, the album is in my car CD player at the moment actually lol.
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To me it's a typical Priest made up character song, some dude called Starbreaker taking people away to space or something 'star voyage to a new world, lightyear miles away' etc.
Bear in mind I am a very literal person, I don't read undertones very well, but in saying that I find it very hard on reading the lyrics to pick up any gay undertone. Just cos Rob is gay doesn't mean every crazy Priest song is about gay stuff LOL.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Friday, March 11, 2011 3:41:47 PM)| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | What do you think it's about?
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| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | Starbreaker's totally about buggering boys Becks, come on.
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