| [Izzystone] Wednesday, September 09, 2009 9:50:33 AM | |
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Ron H, it's great to hear that there still are some hardcore fans out there!
Keep the Faith, stay Metal and worship the Priest! |
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I don't know if he was a church goer or not. He was definitely rough around the edges. After the second tale of dead animals I began to wonder about the veracity of his cougar sightings.
After someone I lived with (nope, not me) fed some chicken bones to our dog, in the summer, not noticing the dog was dead for one day or so until it began to smell, and having to dispose of the rotting creature whose bits were dripping away to the woods with the bucket of the tractor along with the doghouse, since then I can't stand to see dead dogs.
I have to say it's very death gore metal in a typical american way.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Monday, September 07, 2009 9:34:49 AM)| |  | guidogodoy wrote: | | Everyone knows that my hope in life is that the gates of paradise are guarded by animals.
That guy is probably a good "Church goer" too. Sad and I really hope he is attacked by the ghost cougar / chupacabra some day.
| | | Where AmI wrote: | | You're right, it's the Chupacabra, not the animal owner who wants to get rid of unwanted and mistreated animals.
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Oh, THAT was a chupacabra, no doubt! Puerto Rico, Cuba, México are full of them. I even hear that they caught one recently. Nope. Chupacabras are to blame.
| | | Where AmI wrote: | | Hi Guido...I don't think bugs are the scariest creatures in the countryside: I think ghost cougars are the scariest. A neighbor of mine once had an old horse that somehow "unfortunately" tripped and fell into a ditch and died. Now the neighbor blamed it on a cougar stalking the animal and kept pointing at some puncture wounds on the dead animal and some cat paws nobody seemed to recognize...perhaps because there are no cougars in the region. Biggest cat is a bobcat, lots of wild domestics, racoons, skunks and deer.
Quite scary that ghost cougar, don't you think?
That neighbor was haunted, of course. Lots of his animals kept dying from strange occurrences...the older the nag, the greater the risk of death by ghost cougar...or accidental falls.
Beware of ghost cougars.
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Ahhh...someone saw the movie "The Shawshank Redemption." After all "who really looks at someone's shoes?"
As for Nowhere, TN. Here are a couple of pics I took today from the END OF MY DRIVEWAY!! Pic number one is looking towards the city! LOL!!!!!
Yeah, deadly spiders, Sister Hazel, I am screwed....(cows were in the field up the hill in pic #2, btw. Too far to see).
| | | spapad wrote: | | Believe me from an owner of said shoes it's very rare anyone notices.
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | That would be awesome (and funny)!!! Guido walking the dirt roads of Nowhere, TN...showing off them shoes and making the townspeople do a double-take (and take a stab at how the name on the heel stripe is supposed to be pronounced).
| | | spapad wrote: | | That is one Damn Fine lookin shoe! And it looks just like my chucks that are signed except a few details! Guid should order a pair! LOL
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Congratulations. It fits!
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Try "guidogodoy" It should fit!!!! 
| | | spapad wrote: | | It wont fit Becks, you are only allowed 10 spaces with breaks and all included. Sorry!
| | | Becks wrote: | | Oooooh yeah, I wonder if Metal Gods would fit and be allowed? LOL!
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | How about songs? You know, like "Painkiller" or "Hellrider" or something like that?
| | | Becks wrote: | | Hmmm, what other Priest related slogans will fit on the back and not infringe on any copyright? LOL!
| | | spapad wrote: | | If mine go through I'll let you know, as "the priest" alread wont go through since last year, as soon as they find out a clever fan they dismiss them, so it mine go through I'll tell you and you should order them VERY soon.
| | | Becks wrote: | | Oooooh you just reminded me that I want to make my own chucks too, cos they can be sent to my sister in the UK and she will forward them on to me! KKDOWNING would be cool down the spine! I want something Priest related too! LOL!
| | | spapad wrote: | | Well thanks Becks and now I'm going to go totally off subject and ask you, as I am ordering new shoes, put the JP shoes on from last year just for a Hoot and they felt wonderful!
Now, My delima! Should I go with just PRIEST down the back of the shoe, or should I cram creativity into it and spell KKDOWNING down the back spine? They are already on to what I wrote last year, which was THE PRIEST, and I'm not able to get that again.
Give me some input! As I'm ordering them in leather this time and cant wait to have them on my tootsies!
| | | Becks wrote: | | Interesting topic!
Spa is right, it can be difficult to get around Europe - especially if the country you are going to is either not in the EU or is part of the eastern block.
I think all over the world there is a solid core of metal fans - we all know a true metal supporter is so for life! I know that even though the 'popular' music here in NZ at the moment is stupid hip hop bullshit, but there are plenty metal fans here too! But it is a long way for a band to travel, to come and play for us. And our population compared to other countries is miniscule, only 4 million. |
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| [Becks] Monday, September 07, 2009 5:26:29 PM | |
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Ahhh that's a great point Necro! I'd love to get to Germany to go to the Wacken festival one day, how awesome would that be?!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Necroticist from Monday, September 07, 2009 5:24:38 PM)| | | Necroticist wrote: | | | You wanna see true Metal fans? Get ur asses over to Germany - European CENTRE of Metal. Just look at the shows/festivals, the commitment, the sheer bloody lunacy! lol. Shit - if i wasn't married i'd be there! |
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| [Necroticist] Monday, September 07, 2009 5:24:38 PM | |
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| You wanna see true Metal fans? Get ur asses over to Germany - European CENTRE of Metal. Just look at the shows/festivals, the commitment, the sheer bloody lunacy! lol. Shit - if i wasn't married i'd be there! |
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| [spapad] Monday, September 07, 2009 4:10:42 PM | |
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What I find really sick is the latest "Chupacabra" catch, by some taxidermist in TX. That specimen is a dog. It might very well be a bald dog, but the
breed exists, and it has a name. Xole is the shortened version of it's long name. It was just a scared hungry dog, he poinsoned. [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Monday, September 07, 2009 9:34:49 AM)
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Everyone knows that my hope in life is that the gates of paradise are guarded by animals.
That guy is probably a good "Church goer" too. Sad and I really hope he is attacked by the ghost cougar / chupacabra some day.
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You're right, it's the Chupacabra, not the animal owner who wants to get rid of unwanted and mistreated animals.
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Oh, THAT was a chupacabra, no doubt! Puerto Rico, Cuba, México are full of them. I even hear that they caught one recently. Nope. Chupacabras are to blame.
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Hi Guido...I don't think bugs are the scariest creatures in the countryside: I think ghost cougars are the scariest. A neighbor of mine once had an old horse that somehow "unfortunately" tripped and fell into a ditch and died. Now the neighbor blamed it on a cougar stalking the animal and kept pointing at some puncture wounds on the dead animal and some cat paws nobody seemed to recognize...perhaps because there are no cougars in the region. Biggest cat is a bobcat, lots of wild domestics, racoons, skunks and deer.
Quite scary that ghost cougar, don't you think?
That neighbor was haunted, of course. Lots of his animals kept dying from strange occurrences...the older the nag, the greater the risk of death by ghost cougar...or accidental falls.
Beware of ghost cougars.
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Ahhh...someone saw the movie "The Shawshank Redemption." After all "who really looks at someone's shoes?"
As for Nowhere, TN. Here are a couple of pics I took today from the END OF MY DRIVEWAY!! Pic number one is looking towards the city! LOL!!!!!
Yeah, deadly spiders, Sister Hazel, I am screwed....(cows were in the field up the hill in pic #2, btw. Too far to see).
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Believe me from an owner of said shoes it's very rare anyone notices.
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That would be awesome (and funny)!!! Guido walking the dirt roads of Nowhere, TN...showing off them shoes and making the townspeople do a double-take (and take a stab at how the name on the heel stripe is supposed to be pronounced).
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That is one Damn Fine lookin shoe! And it looks just like my chucks that are signed except a few details! Guid should order a pair! LOL
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HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Congratulations. It fits!
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Try "guidogodoy" It should fit!!!!
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It wont fit Becks, you are only allowed 10 spaces with breaks and all included. Sorry!
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Oooooh yeah, I wonder if Metal Gods would fit and be allowed? LOL!
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How about songs? You know, like "Painkiller" or "Hellrider" or something like that?
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Hmmm, what other Priest related slogans will fit on the back and not infringe on any copyright? LOL!
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If mine go through I'll let you know, as "the priest" alread wont go through since last year, as soon as they find out a clever fan they dismiss them, so it mine go through I'll tell you and you should order them VERY soon.
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Oooooh you just reminded me that I want to make my own chucks too, cos they can be sent to my sister in the UK and she will forward them on to me! KKDOWNING would be cool down the spine! I want something Priest related too! LOL!
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Well thanks Becks and now I'm going to go totally off subject and ask you, as I am ordering new shoes, put the JP shoes on from last year just for a Hoot and they felt wonderful!
Now, My delima! Should I go with just PRIEST down the back of the shoe, or should I cram creativity into it and spell KKDOWNING down the back spine? They are already on to what I wrote last year, which was THE PRIEST, and I'm not able to get that again.
Give me some input! As I'm ordering them in leather this time and cant wait to have them on my tootsies!
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Interesting topic!
Spa is right, it can be difficult to get around Europe - especially if the country you are going to is either not in the EU or is part of the eastern block.
I think all over the world there is a solid core of metal fans - we all know a true metal supporter is so for life! I know that even though the 'popular' music here in NZ at the moment is stupid hip hop bullshit, but there are plenty metal fans here too! But it is a long way for a band to travel, to come and play for us. And our population compared to other countries is miniscule, only 4 million. |
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| [guidogodoy] Monday, September 07, 2009 9:34:49 AM | |
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Everyone knows that my hope in life is that the gates of paradise are guarded by animals.
That guy is probably a good "Church goer" too. Sad and I really hope he is attacked by the ghost cougar / chupacabra some day.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Where AmI from Monday, September 07, 2009 2:54:54 AM)| | | Where AmI wrote: | | You're right, it's the Chupacabra, not the animal owner who wants to get rid of unwanted and mistreated animals.
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Oh, THAT was a chupacabra, no doubt! Puerto Rico, Cuba, México are full of them. I even hear that they caught one recently. Nope. Chupacabras are to blame.
| | | Where AmI wrote: | | Hi Guido...I don't think bugs are the scariest creatures in the countryside: I think ghost cougars are the scariest. A neighbor of mine once had an old horse that somehow "unfortunately" tripped and fell into a ditch and died. Now the neighbor blamed it on a cougar stalking the animal and kept pointing at some puncture wounds on the dead animal and some cat paws nobody seemed to recognize...perhaps because there are no cougars in the region. Biggest cat is a bobcat, lots of wild domestics, racoons, skunks and deer.
Quite scary that ghost cougar, don't you think?
That neighbor was haunted, of course. Lots of his animals kept dying from strange occurrences...the older the nag, the greater the risk of death by ghost cougar...or accidental falls.
Beware of ghost cougars.
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Ahhh...someone saw the movie "The Shawshank Redemption." After all "who really looks at someone's shoes?"
As for Nowhere, TN. Here are a couple of pics I took today from the END OF MY DRIVEWAY!! Pic number one is looking towards the city! LOL!!!!!
Yeah, deadly spiders, Sister Hazel, I am screwed....(cows were in the field up the hill in pic #2, btw. Too far to see).
| | | spapad wrote: | | Believe me from an owner of said shoes it's very rare anyone notices.
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | That would be awesome (and funny)!!! Guido walking the dirt roads of Nowhere, TN...showing off them shoes and making the townspeople do a double-take (and take a stab at how the name on the heel stripe is supposed to be pronounced).
| | | spapad wrote: | | That is one Damn Fine lookin shoe! And it looks just like my chucks that are signed except a few details! Guid should order a pair! LOL
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Congratulations. It fits!
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Try "guidogodoy" It should fit!!!!
| | | spapad wrote: | | It wont fit Becks, you are only allowed 10 spaces with breaks and all included. Sorry!
| | | Becks wrote: | | Oooooh yeah, I wonder if Metal Gods would fit and be allowed? LOL!
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | How about songs? You know, like "Painkiller" or "Hellrider" or something like that?
| | | Becks wrote: | | Hmmm, what other Priest related slogans will fit on the back and not infringe on any copyright? LOL!
| | | spapad wrote: | | If mine go through I'll let you know, as "the priest" alread wont go through since last year, as soon as they find out a clever fan they dismiss them, so it mine go through I'll tell you and you should order them VERY soon.
| | | Becks wrote: | | Oooooh you just reminded me that I want to make my own chucks too, cos they can be sent to my sister in the UK and she will forward them on to me! KKDOWNING would be cool down the spine! I want something Priest related too! LOL!
| | | spapad wrote: | | Well thanks Becks and now I'm going to go totally off subject and ask you, as I am ordering new shoes, put the JP shoes on from last year just for a Hoot and they felt wonderful!
Now, My delima! Should I go with just PRIEST down the back of the shoe, or should I cram creativity into it and spell KKDOWNING down the back spine? They are already on to what I wrote last year, which was THE PRIEST, and I'm not able to get that again.
Give me some input! As I'm ordering them in leather this time and cant wait to have them on my tootsies!
| | | Becks wrote: | | Interesting topic!
Spa is right, it can be difficult to get around Europe - especially if the country you are going to is either not in the EU or is part of the eastern block.
I think all over the world there is a solid core of metal fans - we all know a true metal supporter is so for life! I know that even though the 'popular' music here in NZ at the moment is stupid hip hop bullshit, but there are plenty metal fans here too! But it is a long way for a band to travel, to come and play for us. And our population compared to other countries is miniscule, only 4 million. |
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| [ron h] Monday, September 07, 2009 7:59:59 AM | |
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It makes me sick to my stomach to have to agree with you that America is so commercialized!!!! At the same time, it's also what helped commercialize Metal in the late 70's and 80's..."if American's will buy it...." but I'll put "our" core Metalheads with "yours" anytime!!! Metalheads, I would argue, are the most loyal fans world wide!!!!!!!! Keep the faith, Izzystone!!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Izzystone from Sunday, September 06, 2009 7:08:02 PM)| | | Izzystone wrote: | | | Metal is way bigger in Europe. I don't know why, but maybe it's because of the commercialized culture in US, and Europe has built an enormous metal scene the last thirty years, while US has become more and more commercail. And remember that metal was born in England, and British Metal is still the best! |
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You're right, it's the Chupacabra, not the animal owner who wants to get rid of unwanted and mistreated animals.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, September 05, 2009 9:14:53 PM)| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Oh, THAT was a chupacabra, no doubt! Puerto Rico, Cuba, México are full of them. I even hear that they caught one recently. Nope. Chupacabras are to blame.
| | | Where AmI wrote: | | Hi Guido...I don't think bugs are the scariest creatures in the countryside: I think ghost cougars are the scariest. A neighbor of mine once had an old horse that somehow "unfortunately" tripped and fell into a ditch and died. Now the neighbor blamed it on a cougar stalking the animal and kept pointing at some puncture wounds on the dead animal and some cat paws nobody seemed to recognize...perhaps because there are no cougars in the region. Biggest cat is a bobcat, lots of wild domestics, racoons, skunks and deer.
Quite scary that ghost cougar, don't you think?
That neighbor was haunted, of course. Lots of his animals kept dying from strange occurrences...the older the nag, the greater the risk of death by ghost cougar...or accidental falls.
Beware of ghost cougars.
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Ahhh...someone saw the movie "The Shawshank Redemption." After all "who really looks at someone's shoes?"
As for Nowhere, TN. Here are a couple of pics I took today from the END OF MY DRIVEWAY!! Pic number one is looking towards the city! LOL!!!!!
Yeah, deadly spiders, Sister Hazel, I am screwed....(cows were in the field up the hill in pic #2, btw. Too far to see).
| | | spapad wrote: | | Believe me from an owner of said shoes it's very rare anyone notices.
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | That would be awesome (and funny)!!! Guido walking the dirt roads of Nowhere, TN...showing off them shoes and making the townspeople do a double-take (and take a stab at how the name on the heel stripe is supposed to be pronounced).
| | | spapad wrote: | | That is one Damn Fine lookin shoe! And it looks just like my chucks that are signed except a few details! Guid should order a pair! LOL
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Congratulations. It fits!
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Try "guidogodoy" It should fit!!!!
| | | spapad wrote: | | It wont fit Becks, you are only allowed 10 spaces with breaks and all included. Sorry!
| | | Becks wrote: | | Oooooh yeah, I wonder if Metal Gods would fit and be allowed? LOL!
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | How about songs? You know, like "Painkiller" or "Hellrider" or something like that?
| | | Becks wrote: | | Hmmm, what other Priest related slogans will fit on the back and not infringe on any copyright? LOL!
| | | spapad wrote: | | If mine go through I'll let you know, as "the priest" alread wont go through since last year, as soon as they find out a clever fan they dismiss them, so it mine go through I'll tell you and you should order them VERY soon.
| | | Becks wrote: | | Oooooh you just reminded me that I want to make my own chucks too, cos they can be sent to my sister in the UK and she will forward them on to me! KKDOWNING would be cool down the spine! I want something Priest related too! LOL!
| | | spapad wrote: | | Well thanks Becks and now I'm going to go totally off subject and ask you, as I am ordering new shoes, put the JP shoes on from last year just for a Hoot and they felt wonderful!
Now, My delima! Should I go with just PRIEST down the back of the shoe, or should I cram creativity into it and spell KKDOWNING down the back spine? They are already on to what I wrote last year, which was THE PRIEST, and I'm not able to get that again.
Give me some input! As I'm ordering them in leather this time and cant wait to have them on my tootsies!
| | | Becks wrote: | | Interesting topic!
Spa is right, it can be difficult to get around Europe - especially if the country you are going to is either not in the EU or is part of the eastern block.
I think all over the world there is a solid core of metal fans - we all know a true metal supporter is so for life! I know that even though the 'popular' music here in NZ at the moment is stupid hip hop bullshit, but there are plenty metal fans here too! But it is a long way for a band to travel, to come and play for us. And our population compared to other countries is miniscule, only 4 million. |
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| [Izzystone] Sunday, September 06, 2009 7:08:02 PM | |
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| Metal is way bigger in Europe. I don't know why, but maybe it's because of the commercialized culture in US, and Europe has built an enormous metal scene the last thirty years, while US has become more and more commercail. And remember that metal was born in England, and British Metal is still the best! |
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| [guidogodoy] Saturday, September 05, 2009 9:14:53 PM | |
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Oh, THAT was a chupacabra, no doubt! Puerto Rico, Cuba, México are full of them. I even hear that they caught one recently. Nope. Chupacabras are to blame.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Where AmI from Saturday, September 05, 2009 8:49:40 PM)| | | Where AmI wrote: | | Hi Guido...I don't think bugs are the scariest creatures in the countryside: I think ghost cougars are the scariest. A neighbor of mine once had an old horse that somehow "unfortunately" tripped and fell into a ditch and died. Now the neighbor blamed it on a cougar stalking the animal and kept pointing at some puncture wounds on the dead animal and some cat paws nobody seemed to recognize...perhaps because there are no cougars in the region. Biggest cat is a bobcat, lots of wild domestics, racoons, skunks and deer.
Quite scary that ghost cougar, don't you think?
That neighbor was haunted, of course. Lots of his animals kept dying from strange occurrences...the older the nag, the greater the risk of death by ghost cougar...or accidental falls.
Beware of ghost cougars.
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Ahhh...someone saw the movie "The Shawshank Redemption." After all "who really looks at someone's shoes?"
As for Nowhere, TN. Here are a couple of pics I took today from the END OF MY DRIVEWAY!! Pic number one is looking towards the city! LOL!!!!!
Yeah, deadly spiders, Sister Hazel, I am screwed....(cows were in the field up the hill in pic #2, btw. Too far to see).
| | | spapad wrote: | | Believe me from an owner of said shoes it's very rare anyone notices.
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | That would be awesome (and funny)!!! Guido walking the dirt roads of Nowhere, TN...showing off them shoes and making the townspeople do a double-take (and take a stab at how the name on the heel stripe is supposed to be pronounced).
| | | spapad wrote: | | That is one Damn Fine lookin shoe! And it looks just like my chucks that are signed except a few details! Guid should order a pair! LOL
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Congratulations. It fits!
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Try "guidogodoy" It should fit!!!!
| | | spapad wrote: | | It wont fit Becks, you are only allowed 10 spaces with breaks and all included. Sorry!
| | | Becks wrote: | | Oooooh yeah, I wonder if Metal Gods would fit and be allowed? LOL!
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | How about songs? You know, like "Painkiller" or "Hellrider" or something like that?
| | | Becks wrote: | | Hmmm, what other Priest related slogans will fit on the back and not infringe on any copyright? LOL!
| | | spapad wrote: | | If mine go through I'll let you know, as "the priest" alread wont go through since last year, as soon as they find out a clever fan they dismiss them, so it mine go through I'll tell you and you should order them VERY soon.
| | | Becks wrote: | | Oooooh you just reminded me that I want to make my own chucks too, cos they can be sent to my sister in the UK and she will forward them on to me! KKDOWNING would be cool down the spine! I want something Priest related too! LOL!
| | | spapad wrote: | | Well thanks Becks and now I'm going to go totally off subject and ask you, as I am ordering new shoes, put the JP shoes on from last year just for a Hoot and they felt wonderful!
Now, My delima! Should I go with just PRIEST down the back of the shoe, or should I cram creativity into it and spell KKDOWNING down the back spine? They are already on to what I wrote last year, which was THE PRIEST, and I'm not able to get that again.
Give me some input! As I'm ordering them in leather this time and cant wait to have them on my tootsies!
| | | Becks wrote: | | Interesting topic!
Spa is right, it can be difficult to get around Europe - especially if the country you are going to is either not in the EU or is part of the eastern block.
I think all over the world there is a solid core of metal fans - we all know a true metal supporter is so for life! I know that even though the 'popular' music here in NZ at the moment is stupid hip hop bullshit, but there are plenty metal fans here too! But it is a long way for a band to travel, to come and play for us. And our population compared to other countries is miniscule, only 4 million. |
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| [.] Saturday, September 05, 2009 8:49:40 PM | |
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Hi Guido...I don't think bugs are the scariest creatures in the countryside: I think ghost cougars are the scariest. A neighbor of mine once had an old horse that somehow "unfortunately" tripped and fell into a ditch and died. Now the neighbor blamed it on a cougar stalking the animal and kept pointing at some puncture wounds on the dead animal and some cat paws nobody seemed to recognize...perhaps because there are no cougars in the region. Biggest cat is a bobcat, lots of wild domestics, racoons, skunks and deer.
Quite scary that ghost cougar, don't you think?
That neighbor was haunted, of course. Lots of his animals kept dying from strange occurrences...the older the nag, the greater the risk of death by ghost cougar...or accidental falls.
Beware of ghost cougars.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, September 05, 2009 7:21:18 PM)| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Ahhh...someone saw the movie "The Shawshank Redemption." After all "who really looks at someone's shoes?"
As for Nowhere, TN. Here are a couple of pics I took today from the END OF MY DRIVEWAY!! Pic number one is looking towards the city! LOL!!!!!
Yeah, deadly spiders, Sister Hazel, I am screwed....(cows were in the field up the hill in pic #2, btw. Too far to see).
| | | spapad wrote: | | Believe me from an owner of said shoes it's very rare anyone notices.
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | That would be awesome (and funny)!!! Guido walking the dirt roads of Nowhere, TN...showing off them shoes and making the townspeople do a double-take (and take a stab at how the name on the heel stripe is supposed to be pronounced).
| | | spapad wrote: | | That is one Damn Fine lookin shoe! And it looks just like my chucks that are signed except a few details! Guid should order a pair! LOL
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Congratulations. It fits!
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Try "guidogodoy" It should fit!!!!
| | | spapad wrote: | | It wont fit Becks, you are only allowed 10 spaces with breaks and all included. Sorry!
| | | Becks wrote: | | Oooooh yeah, I wonder if Metal Gods would fit and be allowed? LOL!
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | How about songs? You know, like "Painkiller" or "Hellrider" or something like that?
| | | Becks wrote: | | Hmmm, what other Priest related slogans will fit on the back and not infringe on any copyright? LOL!
| | | spapad wrote: | | If mine go through I'll let you know, as "the priest" alread wont go through since last year, as soon as they find out a clever fan they dismiss them, so it mine go through I'll tell you and you should order them VERY soon.
| | | Becks wrote: | | Oooooh you just reminded me that I want to make my own chucks too, cos they can be sent to my sister in the UK and she will forward them on to me! KKDOWNING would be cool down the spine! I want something Priest related too! LOL!
| | | spapad wrote: | | Well thanks Becks and now I'm going to go totally off subject and ask you, as I am ordering new shoes, put the JP shoes on from last year just for a Hoot and they felt wonderful!
Now, My delima! Should I go with just PRIEST down the back of the shoe, or should I cram creativity into it and spell KKDOWNING down the back spine? They are already on to what I wrote last year, which was THE PRIEST, and I'm not able to get that again.
Give me some input! As I'm ordering them in leather this time and cant wait to have them on my tootsies!
| | | Becks wrote: | | Interesting topic!
Spa is right, it can be difficult to get around Europe - especially if the country you are going to is either not in the EU or is part of the eastern block.
I think all over the world there is a solid core of metal fans - we all know a true metal supporter is so for life! I know that even though the 'popular' music here in NZ at the moment is stupid hip hop bullshit, but there are plenty metal fans here too! But it is a long way for a band to travel, to come and play for us. And our population compared to other countries is miniscule, only 4 million. |
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Ahhh...someone saw the movie "The Shawshank Redemption." After all "who really looks at someone's shoes?"
As for Nowhere, TN. Here are a couple of pics I took today from the END OF MY DRIVEWAY!! Pic number one is looking towards the city! LOL!!!!!
Yeah, deadly spiders, Sister Hazel, I am screwed....(cows were in the field up the hill in pic #2, btw. Too far to see).
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Believe me from an owner of said shoes it's very rare anyone notices.
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That would be awesome (and funny)!!! Guido walking the dirt roads of Nowhere, TN...showing off them shoes and making the townspeople do a double-take (and take a stab at how the name on the heel stripe is supposed to be pronounced).
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That is one Damn Fine lookin shoe! And it looks just like my chucks that are signed except a few details! Guid should order a pair! LOL
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HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Congratulations. It fits!
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Try "guidogodoy" It should fit!!!!
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It wont fit Becks, you are only allowed 10 spaces with breaks and all included. Sorry!
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Oooooh yeah, I wonder if Metal Gods would fit and be allowed? LOL!
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How about songs? You know, like "Painkiller" or "Hellrider" or something like that?
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Hmmm, what other Priest related slogans will fit on the back and not infringe on any copyright? LOL!
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If mine go through I'll let you know, as "the priest" alread wont go through since last year, as soon as they find out a clever fan they dismiss them, so it mine go through I'll tell you and you should order them VERY soon.
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Oooooh you just reminded me that I want to make my own chucks too, cos they can be sent to my sister in the UK and she will forward them on to me! KKDOWNING would be cool down the spine! I want something Priest related too! LOL!
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Well thanks Becks and now I'm going to go totally off subject and ask you, as I am ordering new shoes, put the JP shoes on from last year just for a Hoot and they felt wonderful!
Now, My delima! Should I go with just PRIEST down the back of the shoe, or should I cram creativity into it and spell KKDOWNING down the back spine? They are already on to what I wrote last year, which was THE PRIEST, and I'm not able to get that again.
Give me some input! As I'm ordering them in leather this time and cant wait to have them on my tootsies!
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Interesting topic!
Spa is right, it can be difficult to get around Europe - especially if the country you are going to is either not in the EU or is part of the eastern block.
I think all over the world there is a solid core of metal fans - we all know a true metal supporter is so for life! I know that even though the 'popular' music here in NZ at the moment is stupid hip hop bullshit, but there are plenty metal fans here too! But it is a long way for a band to travel, to come and play for us. And our population compared to other countries is miniscule, only 4 million. |
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| [spapad] Saturday, September 05, 2009 7:25:35 PM | |
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Now, sing this like Dean Martin!
"Welcome to my world, wont you come on in"
Yeppers you town sucks as bad as mine!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, September 05, 2009 7:21:18 PM)| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Ahhh...someone saw the movie "The Shawshank Redemption." After all "who really looks at someone's shoes?"
As for Nowhere, TN. Here are a couple of pics I took today from the END OF MY DRIVEWAY!! Pic number one is looking towards the city! LOL!!!!!
Yeah, deadly spiders, Sister Hazel, I am screwed....(cows were in the field up the hill in pic #2, btw. Too far to see).
| | | spapad wrote: | | Believe me from an owner of said shoes it's very rare anyone notices.
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | That would be awesome (and funny)!!! Guido walking the dirt roads of Nowhere, TN...showing off them shoes and making the townspeople do a double-take (and take a stab at how the name on the heel stripe is supposed to be pronounced).
| | | spapad wrote: | | That is one Damn Fine lookin shoe! And it looks just like my chucks that are signed except a few details! Guid should order a pair! LOL
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Congratulations. It fits!
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Try "guidogodoy" It should fit!!!!
| | | spapad wrote: | | It wont fit Becks, you are only allowed 10 spaces with breaks and all included. Sorry!
| | | Becks wrote: | | Oooooh yeah, I wonder if Metal Gods would fit and be allowed? LOL!
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | How about songs? You know, like "Painkiller" or "Hellrider" or something like that?
| | | Becks wrote: | | Hmmm, what other Priest related slogans will fit on the back and not infringe on any copyright? LOL!
| | | spapad wrote: | | If mine go through I'll let you know, as "the priest" alread wont go through since last year, as soon as they find out a clever fan they dismiss them, so it mine go through I'll tell you and you should order them VERY soon.
| | | Becks wrote: | | Oooooh you just reminded me that I want to make my own chucks too, cos they can be sent to my sister in the UK and she will forward them on to me! KKDOWNING would be cool down the spine! I want something Priest related too! LOL!
| | | spapad wrote: | | Well thanks Becks and now I'm going to go totally off subject and ask you, as I am ordering new shoes, put the JP shoes on from last year just for a Hoot and they felt wonderful!
Now, My delima! Should I go with just PRIEST down the back of the shoe, or should I cram creativity into it and spell KKDOWNING down the back spine? They are already on to what I wrote last year, which was THE PRIEST, and I'm not able to get that again.
Give me some input! As I'm ordering them in leather this time and cant wait to have them on my tootsies!
| | | Becks wrote: | | Interesting topic!
Spa is right, it can be difficult to get around Europe - especially if the country you are going to is either not in the EU or is part of the eastern block.
I think all over the world there is a solid core of metal fans - we all know a true metal supporter is so for life! I know that even though the 'popular' music here in NZ at the moment is stupid hip hop bullshit, but there are plenty metal fans here too! But it is a long way for a band to travel, to come and play for us. And our population compared to other countries is miniscule, only 4 million. |
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| [guidogodoy] Saturday, September 05, 2009 7:21:18 PM | |
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Ahhh...someone saw the movie "The Shawshank Redemption." After all "who really looks at someone's shoes?"
As for Nowhere, TN. Here are a couple of pics I took today from the END OF MY DRIVEWAY!! Pic number one is looking towards the city! LOL!!!!!
Yeah, deadly spiders, Sister Hazel, I am screwed....(cows were in the field up the hill in pic #2, btw. Too far to see).
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Saturday, September 05, 2009 7:14:16 PM)| | | spapad wrote: | | Believe me from an owner of said shoes it's very rare anyone notices.
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | That would be awesome (and funny)!!! Guido walking the dirt roads of Nowhere, TN...showing off them shoes and making the townspeople do a double-take (and take a stab at how the name on the heel stripe is supposed to be pronounced).
| | | spapad wrote: | | That is one Damn Fine lookin shoe! And it looks just like my chucks that are signed except a few details! Guid should order a pair! LOL
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Congratulations. It fits!
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Try "guidogodoy" It should fit!!!!
| | | spapad wrote: | | It wont fit Becks, you are only allowed 10 spaces with breaks and all included. Sorry!
| | | Becks wrote: | | Oooooh yeah, I wonder if Metal Gods would fit and be allowed? LOL!
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | How about songs? You know, like "Painkiller" or "Hellrider" or something like that?
| | | Becks wrote: | | Hmmm, what other Priest related slogans will fit on the back and not infringe on any copyright? LOL!
| | | spapad wrote: | | If mine go through I'll let you know, as "the priest" alread wont go through since last year, as soon as they find out a clever fan they dismiss them, so it mine go through I'll tell you and you should order them VERY soon.
| | | Becks wrote: | | Oooooh you just reminded me that I want to make my own chucks too, cos they can be sent to my sister in the UK and she will forward them on to me! KKDOWNING would be cool down the spine! I want something Priest related too! LOL!
| | | spapad wrote: | | Well thanks Becks and now I'm going to go totally off subject and ask you, as I am ordering new shoes, put the JP shoes on from last year just for a Hoot and they felt wonderful!
Now, My delima! Should I go with just PRIEST down the back of the shoe, or should I cram creativity into it and spell KKDOWNING down the back spine? They are already on to what I wrote last year, which was THE PRIEST, and I'm not able to get that again.
Give me some input! As I'm ordering them in leather this time and cant wait to have them on my tootsies!
| | | Becks wrote: | | Interesting topic!
Spa is right, it can be difficult to get around Europe - especially if the country you are going to is either not in the EU or is part of the eastern block.
I think all over the world there is a solid core of metal fans - we all know a true metal supporter is so for life! I know that even though the 'popular' music here in NZ at the moment is stupid hip hop bullshit, but there are plenty metal fans here too! But it is a long way for a band to travel, to come and play for us. And our population compared to other countries is miniscule, only 4 million. |
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| [Vaillant 3.0] Saturday, September 05, 2009 7:18:18 PM | |
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Good point...that part of the shoe is usually hidden by the pant leg...too bad.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Saturday, September 05, 2009 7:14:16 PM)| | | spapad wrote: | | Believe me from an owner of said shoes it's very rare anyone notices.
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | That would be awesome (and funny)!!! Guido walking the dirt roads of Nowhere, TN...showing off them shoes and making the townspeople do a double-take (and take a stab at how the name on the heel stripe is supposed to be pronounced).
| | | spapad wrote: | | That is one Damn Fine lookin shoe! And it looks just like my chucks that are signed except a few details! Guid should order a pair! LOL
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Congratulations. It fits!
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Try "guidogodoy" It should fit!!!!
| | | spapad wrote: | | It wont fit Becks, you are only allowed 10 spaces with breaks and all included. Sorry!
| | | Becks wrote: | | Oooooh yeah, I wonder if Metal Gods would fit and be allowed? LOL!
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | How about songs? You know, like "Painkiller" or "Hellrider" or something like that?
| | | Becks wrote: | | Hmmm, what other Priest related slogans will fit on the back and not infringe on any copyright? LOL!
| | | spapad wrote: | | If mine go through I'll let you know, as "the priest" alread wont go through since last year, as soon as they find out a clever fan they dismiss them, so it mine go through I'll tell you and you should order them VERY soon.
| | | Becks wrote: | | Oooooh you just reminded me that I want to make my own chucks too, cos they can be sent to my sister in the UK and she will forward them on to me! KKDOWNING would be cool down the spine! I want something Priest related too! LOL!
| | | spapad wrote: | | Well thanks Becks and now I'm going to go totally off subject and ask you, as I am ordering new shoes, put the JP shoes on from last year just for a Hoot and they felt wonderful!
Now, My delima! Should I go with just PRIEST down the back of the shoe, or should I cram creativity into it and spell KKDOWNING down the back spine? They are already on to what I wrote last year, which was THE PRIEST, and I'm not able to get that again.
Give me some input! As I'm ordering them in leather this time and cant wait to have them on my tootsies!
| | | Becks wrote: | | Interesting topic!
Spa is right, it can be difficult to get around Europe - especially if the country you are going to is either not in the EU or is part of the eastern block.
I think all over the world there is a solid core of metal fans - we all know a true metal supporter is so for life! I know that even though the 'popular' music here in NZ at the moment is stupid hip hop bullshit, but there are plenty metal fans here too! But it is a long way for a band to travel, to come and play for us. And our population compared to other countries is miniscule, only 4 million. |
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| [Becks] Saturday, September 05, 2009 7:16:29 PM | |
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They look really cool! I'm at the moment deciding which pair I want LOL!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Saturday, September 05, 2009 7:15:42 PM)| | | spapad wrote: | | After a mix up with the sizes I got mine, and they are pretty cool!
| | | Becks wrote: | | LOL Vail that would be hilarious.
You're a good friend Spa, thank you for the offer, but for now I will be ok with getting my AC/DC chucks LOL!
| | | spapad wrote: | | I would dear...........................I would.
| | | Becks wrote: | | Nah it's ok thanks Spa  I couldn't ask you to do that for me, it's too much, LOL!
| | | spapad wrote: | | You tell me how to make the shoe and I'll put it on my "wish list" and then send it to you when they arive. Simple as that!
| | | Becks wrote: | | LOL!!!!
MetalGods without the space fits and is allowed. Grrrr I just noticed on the page for the chucks you make yourself, it says 'No International Shipping'. Damnit we always miss out LOL! Ah well it's fun mucking around making crazy shoes hehe.
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Try "guidogodoy" It should fit!!!!
| | | spapad wrote: | | It wont fit Becks, you are only allowed 10 spaces with breaks and all included. Sorry!
| | | Becks wrote: | | Oooooh yeah, I wonder if Metal Gods would fit and be allowed? LOL!
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | How about songs? You know, like "Painkiller" or "Hellrider" or something like that?
| | | Becks wrote: | | Hmmm, what other Priest related slogans will fit on the back and not infringe on any copyright? LOL!
| | | spapad wrote: | | If mine go through I'll let you know, as "the priest" alread wont go through since last year, as soon as they find out a clever fan they dismiss them, so it mine go through I'll tell you and you should order them VERY soon.
| | | Becks wrote: | | Oooooh you just reminded me that I want to make my own chucks too, cos they can be sent to my sister in the UK and she will forward them on to me! KKDOWNING would be cool down the spine! I want something Priest related too! LOL!
| | | spapad wrote: | | Well thanks Becks and now I'm going to go totally off subject and ask you, as I am ordering new shoes, put the JP shoes on from last year just for a Hoot and they felt wonderful!
Now, My delima! Should I go with just PRIEST down the back of the shoe, or should I cram creativity into it and spell KKDOWNING down the back spine? They are already on to what I wrote last year, which was THE PRIEST, and I'm not able to get that again.
Give me some input! As I'm ordering them in leather this time and cant wait to have them on my tootsies!
| | | Becks wrote: | | Interesting topic!
Spa is right, it can be difficult to get around Europe - especially if the country you are going to is either not in the EU or is part of the eastern block.
I think all over the world there is a solid core of metal fans - we all know a true metal supporter is so for life! I know that even though the 'popular' music here in NZ at the moment is stupid hip hop bullshit, but there are plenty metal fans here too! But it is a long way for a band to travel, to come and play for us. And our population compared to other countries is miniscule, only 4 million. |
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After a mix up with the sizes I got mine, and they are pretty cool!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Becks from Saturday, September 05, 2009 7:13:39 PM)| | | Becks wrote: | | LOL Vail that would be hilarious.
You're a good friend Spa, thank you for the offer, but for now I will be ok with getting my AC/DC chucks LOL!
| | | spapad wrote: | | I would dear...........................I would.
| | | Becks wrote: | | Nah it's ok thanks Spa I couldn't ask you to do that for me, it's too much, LOL!
| | | spapad wrote: | | You tell me how to make the shoe and I'll put it on my "wish list" and then send it to you when they arive. Simple as that!
| | | Becks wrote: | | LOL!!!!
MetalGods without the space fits and is allowed. Grrrr I just noticed on the page for the chucks you make yourself, it says 'No International Shipping'. Damnit we always miss out LOL! Ah well it's fun mucking around making crazy shoes hehe.
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Try "guidogodoy" It should fit!!!!
| | | spapad wrote: | | It wont fit Becks, you are only allowed 10 spaces with breaks and all included. Sorry!
| | | Becks wrote: | | Oooooh yeah, I wonder if Metal Gods would fit and be allowed? LOL!
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | How about songs? You know, like "Painkiller" or "Hellrider" or something like that?
| | | Becks wrote: | | Hmmm, what other Priest related slogans will fit on the back and not infringe on any copyright? LOL!
| | | spapad wrote: | | If mine go through I'll let you know, as "the priest" alread wont go through since last year, as soon as they find out a clever fan they dismiss them, so it mine go through I'll tell you and you should order them VERY soon.
| | | Becks wrote: | | Oooooh you just reminded me that I want to make my own chucks too, cos they can be sent to my sister in the UK and she will forward them on to me! KKDOWNING would be cool down the spine! I want something Priest related too! LOL!
| | | spapad wrote: | | Well thanks Becks and now I'm going to go totally off subject and ask you, as I am ordering new shoes, put the JP shoes on from last year just for a Hoot and they felt wonderful!
Now, My delima! Should I go with just PRIEST down the back of the shoe, or should I cram creativity into it and spell KKDOWNING down the back spine? They are already on to what I wrote last year, which was THE PRIEST, and I'm not able to get that again.
Give me some input! As I'm ordering them in leather this time and cant wait to have them on my tootsies!
| | | Becks wrote: | | Interesting topic!
Spa is right, it can be difficult to get around Europe - especially if the country you are going to is either not in the EU or is part of the eastern block.
I think all over the world there is a solid core of metal fans - we all know a true metal supporter is so for life! I know that even though the 'popular' music here in NZ at the moment is stupid hip hop bullshit, but there are plenty metal fans here too! But it is a long way for a band to travel, to come and play for us. And our population compared to other countries is miniscule, only 4 million. |
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| [spapad] Saturday, September 05, 2009 7:14:16 PM | |
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Believe me from an owner of said shoes it's very rare anyone notices.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Saturday, September 05, 2009 7:12:18 PM)| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | That would be awesome (and funny)!!! Guido walking the dirt roads of Nowhere, TN...showing off them shoes and making the townspeople do a double-take (and take a stab at how the name on the heel stripe is supposed to be pronounced).
| | | spapad wrote: | | That is one Damn Fine lookin shoe! And it looks just like my chucks that are signed except a few details! Guid should order a pair! LOL
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Congratulations. It fits!
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Try "guidogodoy" It should fit!!!!
| | | spapad wrote: | | It wont fit Becks, you are only allowed 10 spaces with breaks and all included. Sorry!
| | | Becks wrote: | | Oooooh yeah, I wonder if Metal Gods would fit and be allowed? LOL!
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | How about songs? You know, like "Painkiller" or "Hellrider" or something like that?
| | | Becks wrote: | | Hmmm, what other Priest related slogans will fit on the back and not infringe on any copyright? LOL!
| | | spapad wrote: | | If mine go through I'll let you know, as "the priest" alread wont go through since last year, as soon as they find out a clever fan they dismiss them, so it mine go through I'll tell you and you should order them VERY soon.
| | | Becks wrote: | | Oooooh you just reminded me that I want to make my own chucks too, cos they can be sent to my sister in the UK and she will forward them on to me! KKDOWNING would be cool down the spine! I want something Priest related too! LOL!
| | | spapad wrote: | | Well thanks Becks and now I'm going to go totally off subject and ask you, as I am ordering new shoes, put the JP shoes on from last year just for a Hoot and they felt wonderful!
Now, My delima! Should I go with just PRIEST down the back of the shoe, or should I cram creativity into it and spell KKDOWNING down the back spine? They are already on to what I wrote last year, which was THE PRIEST, and I'm not able to get that again.
Give me some input! As I'm ordering them in leather this time and cant wait to have them on my tootsies!
| | | Becks wrote: | | Interesting topic!
Spa is right, it can be difficult to get around Europe - especially if the country you are going to is either not in the EU or is part of the eastern block.
I think all over the world there is a solid core of metal fans - we all know a true metal supporter is so for life! I know that even though the 'popular' music here in NZ at the moment is stupid hip hop bullshit, but there are plenty metal fans here too! But it is a long way for a band to travel, to come and play for us. And our population compared to other countries is miniscule, only 4 million. |
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| [Becks] Saturday, September 05, 2009 7:13:39 PM | |
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LOL Vail that would be hilarious.
You're a good friend Spa, thank you for the offer, but for now I will be ok with getting my AC/DC chucks LOL!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Saturday, September 05, 2009 7:12:25 PM)| | | spapad wrote: | | I would dear...........................I would.
| | | Becks wrote: | | Nah it's ok thanks Spa I couldn't ask you to do that for me, it's too much, LOL!
| | | spapad wrote: | | You tell me how to make the shoe and I'll put it on my "wish list" and then send it to you when they arive. Simple as that!
| | | Becks wrote: | | LOL!!!!
MetalGods without the space fits and is allowed. Grrrr I just noticed on the page for the chucks you make yourself, it says 'No International Shipping'. Damnit we always miss out LOL! Ah well it's fun mucking around making crazy shoes hehe.
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Try "guidogodoy" It should fit!!!!
| | | spapad wrote: | | It wont fit Becks, you are only allowed 10 spaces with breaks and all included. Sorry!
| | | Becks wrote: | | Oooooh yeah, I wonder if Metal Gods would fit and be allowed? LOL!
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | How about songs? You know, like "Painkiller" or "Hellrider" or something like that?
| | | Becks wrote: | | Hmmm, what other Priest related slogans will fit on the back and not infringe on any copyright? LOL!
| | | spapad wrote: | | If mine go through I'll let you know, as "the priest" alread wont go through since last year, as soon as they find out a clever fan they dismiss them, so it mine go through I'll tell you and you should order them VERY soon.
| | | Becks wrote: | | Oooooh you just reminded me that I want to make my own chucks too, cos they can be sent to my sister in the UK and she will forward them on to me! KKDOWNING would be cool down the spine! I want something Priest related too! LOL!
| | | spapad wrote: | | Well thanks Becks and now I'm going to go totally off subject and ask you, as I am ordering new shoes, put the JP shoes on from last year just for a Hoot and they felt wonderful!
Now, My delima! Should I go with just PRIEST down the back of the shoe, or should I cram creativity into it and spell KKDOWNING down the back spine? They are already on to what I wrote last year, which was THE PRIEST, and I'm not able to get that again.
Give me some input! As I'm ordering them in leather this time and cant wait to have them on my tootsies!
| | | Becks wrote: | | Interesting topic!
Spa is right, it can be difficult to get around Europe - especially if the country you are going to is either not in the EU or is part of the eastern block.
I think all over the world there is a solid core of metal fans - we all know a true metal supporter is so for life! I know that even though the 'popular' music here in NZ at the moment is stupid hip hop bullshit, but there are plenty metal fans here too! But it is a long way for a band to travel, to come and play for us. And our population compared to other countries is miniscule, only 4 million. |
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| [spapad] Saturday, September 05, 2009 7:12:25 PM | |
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I would dear...........................I would.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Becks from Saturday, September 05, 2009 7:09:41 PM)| | | Becks wrote: | | Nah it's ok thanks Spa I couldn't ask you to do that for me, it's too much, LOL!
| | | spapad wrote: | | You tell me how to make the shoe and I'll put it on my "wish list" and then send it to you when they arive. Simple as that!
| | | Becks wrote: | | LOL!!!!
MetalGods without the space fits and is allowed. Grrrr I just noticed on the page for the chucks you make yourself, it says 'No International Shipping'. Damnit we always miss out LOL! Ah well it's fun mucking around making crazy shoes hehe.
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Try "guidogodoy" It should fit!!!!
| | | spapad wrote: | | It wont fit Becks, you are only allowed 10 spaces with breaks and all included. Sorry!
| | | Becks wrote: | | Oooooh yeah, I wonder if Metal Gods would fit and be allowed? LOL!
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | How about songs? You know, like "Painkiller" or "Hellrider" or something like that?
| | | Becks wrote: | | Hmmm, what other Priest related slogans will fit on the back and not infringe on any copyright? LOL!
| | | spapad wrote: | | If mine go through I'll let you know, as "the priest" alread wont go through since last year, as soon as they find out a clever fan they dismiss them, so it mine go through I'll tell you and you should order them VERY soon.
| | | Becks wrote: | | Oooooh you just reminded me that I want to make my own chucks too, cos they can be sent to my sister in the UK and she will forward them on to me! KKDOWNING would be cool down the spine! I want something Priest related too! LOL!
| | | spapad wrote: | | Well thanks Becks and now I'm going to go totally off subject and ask you, as I am ordering new shoes, put the JP shoes on from last year just for a Hoot and they felt wonderful!
Now, My delima! Should I go with just PRIEST down the back of the shoe, or should I cram creativity into it and spell KKDOWNING down the back spine? They are already on to what I wrote last year, which was THE PRIEST, and I'm not able to get that again.
Give me some input! As I'm ordering them in leather this time and cant wait to have them on my tootsies!
| | | Becks wrote: | | Interesting topic!
Spa is right, it can be difficult to get around Europe - especially if the country you are going to is either not in the EU or is part of the eastern block.
I think all over the world there is a solid core of metal fans - we all know a true metal supporter is so for life! I know that even though the 'popular' music here in NZ at the moment is stupid hip hop bullshit, but there are plenty metal fans here too! But it is a long way for a band to travel, to come and play for us. And our population compared to other countries is miniscule, only 4 million. |
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| [Vaillant 3.0] Saturday, September 05, 2009 7:12:18 PM | |
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That would be awesome (and funny)!!! Guido walking the dirt roads of Nowhere, TN...showing off them shoes and making the townspeople do a double-take (and take a stab at how the name on the heel stripe is supposed to be pronounced).
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Saturday, September 05, 2009 7:09:12 PM)| | | spapad wrote: | | That is one Damn Fine lookin shoe! And it looks just like my chucks that are signed except a few details! Guid should order a pair! LOL
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Congratulations. It fits!
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Try "guidogodoy" It should fit!!!!
| | | spapad wrote: | | It wont fit Becks, you are only allowed 10 spaces with breaks and all included. Sorry!
| | | Becks wrote: | | Oooooh yeah, I wonder if Metal Gods would fit and be allowed? LOL!
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | How about songs? You know, like "Painkiller" or "Hellrider" or something like that?
| | | Becks wrote: | | Hmmm, what other Priest related slogans will fit on the back and not infringe on any copyright? LOL!
| | | spapad wrote: | | If mine go through I'll let you know, as "the priest" alread wont go through since last year, as soon as they find out a clever fan they dismiss them, so it mine go through I'll tell you and you should order them VERY soon.
| | | Becks wrote: | | Oooooh you just reminded me that I want to make my own chucks too, cos they can be sent to my sister in the UK and she will forward them on to me! KKDOWNING would be cool down the spine! I want something Priest related too! LOL!
| | | spapad wrote: | | Well thanks Becks and now I'm going to go totally off subject and ask you, as I am ordering new shoes, put the JP shoes on from last year just for a Hoot and they felt wonderful!
Now, My delima! Should I go with just PRIEST down the back of the shoe, or should I cram creativity into it and spell KKDOWNING down the back spine? They are already on to what I wrote last year, which was THE PRIEST, and I'm not able to get that again.
Give me some input! As I'm ordering them in leather this time and cant wait to have them on my tootsies!
| | | Becks wrote: | | Interesting topic!
Spa is right, it can be difficult to get around Europe - especially if the country you are going to is either not in the EU or is part of the eastern block.
I think all over the world there is a solid core of metal fans - we all know a true metal supporter is so for life! I know that even though the 'popular' music here in NZ at the moment is stupid hip hop bullshit, but there are plenty metal fans here too! But it is a long way for a band to travel, to come and play for us. And our population compared to other countries is miniscule, only 4 million. |
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| [Becks] Saturday, September 05, 2009 7:09:41 PM | |
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Nah it's ok thanks Spa I couldn't ask you to do that for me, it's too much, LOL!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Saturday, September 05, 2009 7:06:20 PM)| | | spapad wrote: | | You tell me how to make the shoe and I'll put it on my "wish list" and then send it to you when they arive. Simple as that!
| | | Becks wrote: | | LOL!!!!
MetalGods without the space fits and is allowed. Grrrr I just noticed on the page for the chucks you make yourself, it says 'No International Shipping'. Damnit we always miss out LOL! Ah well it's fun mucking around making crazy shoes hehe.
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Try "guidogodoy" It should fit!!!!
| | | spapad wrote: | | It wont fit Becks, you are only allowed 10 spaces with breaks and all included. Sorry!
| | | Becks wrote: | | Oooooh yeah, I wonder if Metal Gods would fit and be allowed? LOL!
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | How about songs? You know, like "Painkiller" or "Hellrider" or something like that?
| | | Becks wrote: | | Hmmm, what other Priest related slogans will fit on the back and not infringe on any copyright? LOL!
| | | spapad wrote: | | If mine go through I'll let you know, as "the priest" alread wont go through since last year, as soon as they find out a clever fan they dismiss them, so it mine go through I'll tell you and you should order them VERY soon.
| | | Becks wrote: | | Oooooh you just reminded me that I want to make my own chucks too, cos they can be sent to my sister in the UK and she will forward them on to me! KKDOWNING would be cool down the spine! I want something Priest related too! LOL!
| | | spapad wrote: | | Well thanks Becks and now I'm going to go totally off subject and ask you, as I am ordering new shoes, put the JP shoes on from last year just for a Hoot and they felt wonderful!
Now, My delima! Should I go with just PRIEST down the back of the shoe, or should I cram creativity into it and spell KKDOWNING down the back spine? They are already on to what I wrote last year, which was THE PRIEST, and I'm not able to get that again.
Give me some input! As I'm ordering them in leather this time and cant wait to have them on my tootsies!
| | | Becks wrote: | | Interesting topic!
Spa is right, it can be difficult to get around Europe - especially if the country you are going to is either not in the EU or is part of the eastern block.
I think all over the world there is a solid core of metal fans - we all know a true metal supporter is so for life! I know that even though the 'popular' music here in NZ at the moment is stupid hip hop bullshit, but there are plenty metal fans here too! But it is a long way for a band to travel, to come and play for us. And our population compared to other countries is miniscule, only 4 million. |
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| [spapad] Saturday, September 05, 2009 7:09:12 PM | |
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That is one Damn Fine lookin shoe! And it looks just like my chucks that are signed except a few details! Guid should order a pair! LOL
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Saturday, September 05, 2009 7:04:36 PM)| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Congratulations. It fits!
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Try "guidogodoy" It should fit!!!!
| | | spapad wrote: | | It wont fit Becks, you are only allowed 10 spaces with breaks and all included. Sorry!
| | | Becks wrote: | | Oooooh yeah, I wonder if Metal Gods would fit and be allowed? LOL!
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | How about songs? You know, like "Painkiller" or "Hellrider" or something like that?
| | | Becks wrote: | | Hmmm, what other Priest related slogans will fit on the back and not infringe on any copyright? LOL!
| | | spapad wrote: | | If mine go through I'll let you know, as "the priest" alread wont go through since last year, as soon as they find out a clever fan they dismiss them, so it mine go through I'll tell you and you should order them VERY soon.
| | | Becks wrote: | | Oooooh you just reminded me that I want to make my own chucks too, cos they can be sent to my sister in the UK and she will forward them on to me! KKDOWNING would be cool down the spine! I want something Priest related too! LOL!
| | | spapad wrote: | | Well thanks Becks and now I'm going to go totally off subject and ask you, as I am ordering new shoes, put the JP shoes on from last year just for a Hoot and they felt wonderful!
Now, My delima! Should I go with just PRIEST down the back of the shoe, or should I cram creativity into it and spell KKDOWNING down the back spine? They are already on to what I wrote last year, which was THE PRIEST, and I'm not able to get that again.
Give me some input! As I'm ordering them in leather this time and cant wait to have them on my tootsies!
| | | Becks wrote: | | Interesting topic!
Spa is right, it can be difficult to get around Europe - especially if the country you are going to is either not in the EU or is part of the eastern block.
I think all over the world there is a solid core of metal fans - we all know a true metal supporter is so for life! I know that even though the 'popular' music here in NZ at the moment is stupid hip hop bullshit, but there are plenty metal fans here too! But it is a long way for a band to travel, to come and play for us. And our population compared to other countries is miniscule, only 4 million. |
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| [guidogodoy] Saturday, September 05, 2009 7:08:26 PM | |
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Now THAT screams metal!!!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Saturday, September 05, 2009 7:04:36 PM)| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Congratulations. It fits!
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Try "guidogodoy" It should fit!!!!
| | | spapad wrote: | | It wont fit Becks, you are only allowed 10 spaces with breaks and all included. Sorry!
| | | Becks wrote: | | Oooooh yeah, I wonder if Metal Gods would fit and be allowed? LOL!
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | How about songs? You know, like "Painkiller" or "Hellrider" or something like that?
| | | Becks wrote: | | Hmmm, what other Priest related slogans will fit on the back and not infringe on any copyright? LOL!
| | | spapad wrote: | | If mine go through I'll let you know, as "the priest" alread wont go through since last year, as soon as they find out a clever fan they dismiss them, so it mine go through I'll tell you and you should order them VERY soon.
| | | Becks wrote: | | Oooooh you just reminded me that I want to make my own chucks too, cos they can be sent to my sister in the UK and she will forward them on to me! KKDOWNING would be cool down the spine! I want something Priest related too! LOL!
| | | spapad wrote: | | Well thanks Becks and now I'm going to go totally off subject and ask you, as I am ordering new shoes, put the JP shoes on from last year just for a Hoot and they felt wonderful!
Now, My delima! Should I go with just PRIEST down the back of the shoe, or should I cram creativity into it and spell KKDOWNING down the back spine? They are already on to what I wrote last year, which was THE PRIEST, and I'm not able to get that again.
Give me some input! As I'm ordering them in leather this time and cant wait to have them on my tootsies!
| | | Becks wrote: | | Interesting topic!
Spa is right, it can be difficult to get around Europe - especially if the country you are going to is either not in the EU or is part of the eastern block.
I think all over the world there is a solid core of metal fans - we all know a true metal supporter is so for life! I know that even though the 'popular' music here in NZ at the moment is stupid hip hop bullshit, but there are plenty metal fans here too! But it is a long way for a band to travel, to come and play for us. And our population compared to other countries is miniscule, only 4 million. |
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| [Becks] Saturday, September 05, 2009 7:06:23 PM | |
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[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Saturday, September 05, 2009 7:04:36 PM)| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Congratulations. It fits!
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Try "guidogodoy" It should fit!!!!
| | | spapad wrote: | | It wont fit Becks, you are only allowed 10 spaces with breaks and all included. Sorry!
| | | Becks wrote: | | Oooooh yeah, I wonder if Metal Gods would fit and be allowed? LOL!
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | How about songs? You know, like "Painkiller" or "Hellrider" or something like that?
| | | Becks wrote: | | Hmmm, what other Priest related slogans will fit on the back and not infringe on any copyright? LOL!
| | | spapad wrote: | | If mine go through I'll let you know, as "the priest" alread wont go through since last year, as soon as they find out a clever fan they dismiss them, so it mine go through I'll tell you and you should order them VERY soon.
| | | Becks wrote: | | Oooooh you just reminded me that I want to make my own chucks too, cos they can be sent to my sister in the UK and she will forward them on to me! KKDOWNING would be cool down the spine! I want something Priest related too! LOL!
| | | spapad wrote: | | Well thanks Becks and now I'm going to go totally off subject and ask you, as I am ordering new shoes, put the JP shoes on from last year just for a Hoot and they felt wonderful!
Now, My delima! Should I go with just PRIEST down the back of the shoe, or should I cram creativity into it and spell KKDOWNING down the back spine? They are already on to what I wrote last year, which was THE PRIEST, and I'm not able to get that again.
Give me some input! As I'm ordering them in leather this time and cant wait to have them on my tootsies!
| | | Becks wrote: | | Interesting topic!
Spa is right, it can be difficult to get around Europe - especially if the country you are going to is either not in the EU or is part of the eastern block.
I think all over the world there is a solid core of metal fans - we all know a true metal supporter is so for life! I know that even though the 'popular' music here in NZ at the moment is stupid hip hop bullshit, but there are plenty metal fans here too! But it is a long way for a band to travel, to come and play for us. And our population compared to other countries is miniscule, only 4 million. |
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| [spapad] Saturday, September 05, 2009 7:06:20 PM | |
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You tell me how to make the shoe and I'll put it on my "wish list" and then send it to you when they arive. Simple as that!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Becks from Saturday, September 05, 2009 7:00:18 PM)| | | Becks wrote: | | LOL!!!!
MetalGods without the space fits and is allowed. Grrrr I just noticed on the page for the chucks you make yourself, it says 'No International Shipping'. Damnit we always miss out LOL! Ah well it's fun mucking around making crazy shoes hehe.
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Try "guidogodoy" It should fit!!!!
| | | spapad wrote: | | It wont fit Becks, you are only allowed 10 spaces with breaks and all included. Sorry!
| | | Becks wrote: | | Oooooh yeah, I wonder if Metal Gods would fit and be allowed? LOL!
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | How about songs? You know, like "Painkiller" or "Hellrider" or something like that?
| | | Becks wrote: | | Hmmm, what other Priest related slogans will fit on the back and not infringe on any copyright? LOL!
| | | spapad wrote: | | If mine go through I'll let you know, as "the priest" alread wont go through since last year, as soon as they find out a clever fan they dismiss them, so it mine go through I'll tell you and you should order them VERY soon.
| | | Becks wrote: | | Oooooh you just reminded me that I want to make my own chucks too, cos they can be sent to my sister in the UK and she will forward them on to me! KKDOWNING would be cool down the spine! I want something Priest related too! LOL!
| | | spapad wrote: | | Well thanks Becks and now I'm going to go totally off subject and ask you, as I am ordering new shoes, put the JP shoes on from last year just for a Hoot and they felt wonderful!
Now, My delima! Should I go with just PRIEST down the back of the shoe, or should I cram creativity into it and spell KKDOWNING down the back spine? They are already on to what I wrote last year, which was THE PRIEST, and I'm not able to get that again.
Give me some input! As I'm ordering them in leather this time and cant wait to have them on my tootsies!
| | | Becks wrote: | | Interesting topic!
Spa is right, it can be difficult to get around Europe - especially if the country you are going to is either not in the EU or is part of the eastern block.
I think all over the world there is a solid core of metal fans - we all know a true metal supporter is so for life! I know that even though the 'popular' music here in NZ at the moment is stupid hip hop bullshit, but there are plenty metal fans here too! But it is a long way for a band to travel, to come and play for us. And our population compared to other countries is miniscule, only 4 million. |
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| [Vaillant 3.0] Saturday, September 05, 2009 7:04:36 PM | |
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HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Congratulations. It fits!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, September 05, 2009 6:54:44 PM)| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Try "guidogodoy" It should fit!!!!
| | | spapad wrote: | | It wont fit Becks, you are only allowed 10 spaces with breaks and all included. Sorry!
| | | Becks wrote: | | Oooooh yeah, I wonder if Metal Gods would fit and be allowed? LOL!
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | How about songs? You know, like "Painkiller" or "Hellrider" or something like that?
| | | Becks wrote: | | Hmmm, what other Priest related slogans will fit on the back and not infringe on any copyright? LOL!
| | | spapad wrote: | | If mine go through I'll let you know, as "the priest" alread wont go through since last year, as soon as they find out a clever fan they dismiss them, so it mine go through I'll tell you and you should order them VERY soon.
| | | Becks wrote: | | Oooooh you just reminded me that I want to make my own chucks too, cos they can be sent to my sister in the UK and she will forward them on to me! KKDOWNING would be cool down the spine! I want something Priest related too! LOL!
| | | spapad wrote: | | Well thanks Becks and now I'm going to go totally off subject and ask you, as I am ordering new shoes, put the JP shoes on from last year just for a Hoot and they felt wonderful!
Now, My delima! Should I go with just PRIEST down the back of the shoe, or should I cram creativity into it and spell KKDOWNING down the back spine? They are already on to what I wrote last year, which was THE PRIEST, and I'm not able to get that again.
Give me some input! As I'm ordering them in leather this time and cant wait to have them on my tootsies!
| | | Becks wrote: | | Interesting topic!
Spa is right, it can be difficult to get around Europe - especially if the country you are going to is either not in the EU or is part of the eastern block.
I think all over the world there is a solid core of metal fans - we all know a true metal supporter is so for life! I know that even though the 'popular' music here in NZ at the moment is stupid hip hop bullshit, but there are plenty metal fans here too! But it is a long way for a band to travel, to come and play for us. And our population compared to other countries is miniscule, only 4 million. |
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| [Becks] Saturday, September 05, 2009 7:00:18 PM | |
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LOL!!!!
MetalGods without the space fits and is allowed. Grrrr I just noticed on the page for the chucks you make yourself, it says 'No International Shipping'. Damnit we always miss out LOL! Ah well it's fun mucking around making crazy shoes hehe.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, September 05, 2009 6:54:44 PM)| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Try "guidogodoy" It should fit!!!!
| | | spapad wrote: | | It wont fit Becks, you are only allowed 10 spaces with breaks and all included. Sorry!
| | | Becks wrote: | | Oooooh yeah, I wonder if Metal Gods would fit and be allowed? LOL!
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | How about songs? You know, like "Painkiller" or "Hellrider" or something like that?
| | | Becks wrote: | | Hmmm, what other Priest related slogans will fit on the back and not infringe on any copyright? LOL!
| | | spapad wrote: | | If mine go through I'll let you know, as "the priest" alread wont go through since last year, as soon as they find out a clever fan they dismiss them, so it mine go through I'll tell you and you should order them VERY soon.
| | | Becks wrote: | | Oooooh you just reminded me that I want to make my own chucks too, cos they can be sent to my sister in the UK and she will forward them on to me! KKDOWNING would be cool down the spine! I want something Priest related too! LOL!
| | | spapad wrote: | | Well thanks Becks and now I'm going to go totally off subject and ask you, as I am ordering new shoes, put the JP shoes on from last year just for a Hoot and they felt wonderful!
Now, My delima! Should I go with just PRIEST down the back of the shoe, or should I cram creativity into it and spell KKDOWNING down the back spine? They are already on to what I wrote last year, which was THE PRIEST, and I'm not able to get that again.
Give me some input! As I'm ordering them in leather this time and cant wait to have them on my tootsies!
| | | Becks wrote: | | Interesting topic!
Spa is right, it can be difficult to get around Europe - especially if the country you are going to is either not in the EU or is part of the eastern block.
I think all over the world there is a solid core of metal fans - we all know a true metal supporter is so for life! I know that even though the 'popular' music here in NZ at the moment is stupid hip hop bullshit, but there are plenty metal fans here too! But it is a long way for a band to travel, to come and play for us. And our population compared to other countries is miniscule, only 4 million. |
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| [guidogodoy] Saturday, September 05, 2009 6:54:44 PM | |
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Try "guidogodoy" It should fit!!!!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Saturday, September 05, 2009 6:50:51 PM)| | | spapad wrote: | | It wont fit Becks, you are only allowed 10 spaces with breaks and all included. Sorry!
| | | Becks wrote: | | Oooooh yeah, I wonder if Metal Gods would fit and be allowed? LOL!
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | How about songs? You know, like "Painkiller" or "Hellrider" or something like that?
| | | Becks wrote: | | Hmmm, what other Priest related slogans will fit on the back and not infringe on any copyright? LOL!
| | | spapad wrote: | | If mine go through I'll let you know, as "the priest" alread wont go through since last year, as soon as they find out a clever fan they dismiss them, so it mine go through I'll tell you and you should order them VERY soon.
| | | Becks wrote: | | Oooooh you just reminded me that I want to make my own chucks too, cos they can be sent to my sister in the UK and she will forward them on to me! KKDOWNING would be cool down the spine! I want something Priest related too! LOL!
| | | spapad wrote: | | Well thanks Becks and now I'm going to go totally off subject and ask you, as I am ordering new shoes, put the JP shoes on from last year just for a Hoot and they felt wonderful!
Now, My delima! Should I go with just PRIEST down the back of the shoe, or should I cram creativity into it and spell KKDOWNING down the back spine? They are already on to what I wrote last year, which was THE PRIEST, and I'm not able to get that again.
Give me some input! As I'm ordering them in leather this time and cant wait to have them on my tootsies!
| | | Becks wrote: | | Interesting topic!
Spa is right, it can be difficult to get around Europe - especially if the country you are going to is either not in the EU or is part of the eastern block.
I think all over the world there is a solid core of metal fans - we all know a true metal supporter is so for life! I know that even though the 'popular' music here in NZ at the moment is stupid hip hop bullshit, but there are plenty metal fans here too! But it is a long way for a band to travel, to come and play for us. And our population compared to other countries is miniscule, only 4 million. |
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| [Becks] Saturday, September 05, 2009 6:53:25 PM | |
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Hey, I just put in 'ThePriest' whilst testing random combinations and it said it was allowed?
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Saturday, September 05, 2009 6:50:51 PM)| | | spapad wrote: | | It wont fit Becks, you are only allowed 10 spaces with breaks and all included. Sorry!
| | | Becks wrote: | | Oooooh yeah, I wonder if Metal Gods would fit and be allowed? LOL!
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | How about songs? You know, like "Painkiller" or "Hellrider" or something like that?
| | | Becks wrote: | | Hmmm, what other Priest related slogans will fit on the back and not infringe on any copyright? LOL!
| | | spapad wrote: | | If mine go through I'll let you know, as "the priest" alread wont go through since last year, as soon as they find out a clever fan they dismiss them, so it mine go through I'll tell you and you should order them VERY soon.
| | | Becks wrote: | | Oooooh you just reminded me that I want to make my own chucks too, cos they can be sent to my sister in the UK and she will forward them on to me! KKDOWNING would be cool down the spine! I want something Priest related too! LOL!
| | | spapad wrote: | | Well thanks Becks and now I'm going to go totally off subject and ask you, as I am ordering new shoes, put the JP shoes on from last year just for a Hoot and they felt wonderful!
Now, My delima! Should I go with just PRIEST down the back of the shoe, or should I cram creativity into it and spell KKDOWNING down the back spine? They are already on to what I wrote last year, which was THE PRIEST, and I'm not able to get that again.
Give me some input! As I'm ordering them in leather this time and cant wait to have them on my tootsies!
| | | Becks wrote: | | Interesting topic!
Spa is right, it can be difficult to get around Europe - especially if the country you are going to is either not in the EU or is part of the eastern block.
I think all over the world there is a solid core of metal fans - we all know a true metal supporter is so for life! I know that even though the 'popular' music here in NZ at the moment is stupid hip hop bullshit, but there are plenty metal fans here too! But it is a long way for a band to travel, to come and play for us. And our population compared to other countries is miniscule, only 4 million. |
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| [Vaillant 3.0] Saturday, September 05, 2009 6:53:24 PM | |
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Oh! Try Metallian!! Maybe that will work!!!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Becks from Saturday, September 05, 2009 6:51:46 PM)| | | Becks wrote: | | LOL Painkiller and Hellrider worked 
| | | spapad wrote: | | Try Painkiller or Hellrider! Might just work, never occured to me to use the names of songs. Duh!
| | | Becks wrote: | | Hmmm, what other Priest related slogans will fit on the back and not infringe on any copyright? LOL!
| | | spapad wrote: | | If mine go through I'll let you know, as "the priest" alread wont go through since last year, as soon as they find out a clever fan they dismiss them, so it mine go through I'll tell you and you should order them VERY soon.
| | | Becks wrote: | | Oooooh you just reminded me that I want to make my own chucks too, cos they can be sent to my sister in the UK and she will forward them on to me! KKDOWNING would be cool down the spine! I want something Priest related too! LOL!
| | | spapad wrote: | | Well thanks Becks and now I'm going to go totally off subject and ask you, as I am ordering new shoes, put the JP shoes on from last year just for a Hoot and they felt wonderful!
Now, My delima! Should I go with just PRIEST down the back of the shoe, or should I cram creativity into it and spell KKDOWNING down the back spine? They are already on to what I wrote last year, which was THE PRIEST, and I'm not able to get that again.
Give me some input! As I'm ordering them in leather this time and cant wait to have them on my tootsies!
| | | Becks wrote: | | Interesting topic!
Spa is right, it can be difficult to get around Europe - especially if the country you are going to is either not in the EU or is part of the eastern block.
I think all over the world there is a solid core of metal fans - we all know a true metal supporter is so for life! I know that even though the 'popular' music here in NZ at the moment is stupid hip hop bullshit, but there are plenty metal fans here too! But it is a long way for a band to travel, to come and play for us. And our population compared to other countries is miniscule, only 4 million. |
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| [Becks] Saturday, September 05, 2009 6:51:46 PM | |
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LOL Painkiller and Hellrider worked
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Saturday, September 05, 2009 6:49:07 PM)| | | spapad wrote: | | Try Painkiller or Hellrider! Might just work, never occured to me to use the names of songs. Duh!
| | | Becks wrote: | | Hmmm, what other Priest related slogans will fit on the back and not infringe on any copyright? LOL!
| | | spapad wrote: | | If mine go through I'll let you know, as "the priest" alread wont go through since last year, as soon as they find out a clever fan they dismiss them, so it mine go through I'll tell you and you should order them VERY soon.
| | | Becks wrote: | | Oooooh you just reminded me that I want to make my own chucks too, cos they can be sent to my sister in the UK and she will forward them on to me! KKDOWNING would be cool down the spine! I want something Priest related too! LOL!
| | | spapad wrote: | | Well thanks Becks and now I'm going to go totally off subject and ask you, as I am ordering new shoes, put the JP shoes on from last year just for a Hoot and they felt wonderful!
Now, My delima! Should I go with just PRIEST down the back of the shoe, or should I cram creativity into it and spell KKDOWNING down the back spine? They are already on to what I wrote last year, which was THE PRIEST, and I'm not able to get that again.
Give me some input! As I'm ordering them in leather this time and cant wait to have them on my tootsies!
| | | Becks wrote: | | Interesting topic!
Spa is right, it can be difficult to get around Europe - especially if the country you are going to is either not in the EU or is part of the eastern block.
I think all over the world there is a solid core of metal fans - we all know a true metal supporter is so for life! I know that even though the 'popular' music here in NZ at the moment is stupid hip hop bullshit, but there are plenty metal fans here too! But it is a long way for a band to travel, to come and play for us. And our population compared to other countries is miniscule, only 4 million. |
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| [spapad] Saturday, September 05, 2009 6:50:51 PM | |
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It wont fit Becks, you are only allowed 10 spaces with breaks and all included. Sorry!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Becks from Saturday, September 05, 2009 6:45:07 PM)| | | Becks wrote: | | Oooooh yeah, I wonder if Metal Gods would fit and be allowed? LOL!
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | How about songs? You know, like "Painkiller" or "Hellrider" or something like that?
| | | Becks wrote: | | Hmmm, what other Priest related slogans will fit on the back and not infringe on any copyright? LOL!
| | | spapad wrote: | | If mine go through I'll let you know, as "the priest" alread wont go through since last year, as soon as they find out a clever fan they dismiss them, so it mine go through I'll tell you and you should order them VERY soon.
| | | Becks wrote: | | Oooooh you just reminded me that I want to make my own chucks too, cos they can be sent to my sister in the UK and she will forward them on to me! KKDOWNING would be cool down the spine! I want something Priest related too! LOL!
| | | spapad wrote: | | Well thanks Becks and now I'm going to go totally off subject and ask you, as I am ordering new shoes, put the JP shoes on from last year just for a Hoot and they felt wonderful!
Now, My delima! Should I go with just PRIEST down the back of the shoe, or should I cram creativity into it and spell KKDOWNING down the back spine? They are already on to what I wrote last year, which was THE PRIEST, and I'm not able to get that again.
Give me some input! As I'm ordering them in leather this time and cant wait to have them on my tootsies!
| | | Becks wrote: | | Interesting topic!
Spa is right, it can be difficult to get around Europe - especially if the country you are going to is either not in the EU or is part of the eastern block.
I think all over the world there is a solid core of metal fans - we all know a true metal supporter is so for life! I know that even though the 'popular' music here in NZ at the moment is stupid hip hop bullshit, but there are plenty metal fans here too! But it is a long way for a band to travel, to come and play for us. And our population compared to other countries is miniscule, only 4 million. |
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| [spapad] Saturday, September 05, 2009 6:49:07 PM | |
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Try Painkiller or Hellrider! Might just work, never occured to me to use the names of songs. Duh!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Becks from Saturday, September 05, 2009 6:43:04 PM)| | | Becks wrote: | | Hmmm, what other Priest related slogans will fit on the back and not infringe on any copyright? LOL!
| | | spapad wrote: | | If mine go through I'll let you know, as "the priest" alread wont go through since last year, as soon as they find out a clever fan they dismiss them, so it mine go through I'll tell you and you should order them VERY soon.
| | | Becks wrote: | | Oooooh you just reminded me that I want to make my own chucks too, cos they can be sent to my sister in the UK and she will forward them on to me! KKDOWNING would be cool down the spine! I want something Priest related too! LOL!
| | | spapad wrote: | | Well thanks Becks and now I'm going to go totally off subject and ask you, as I am ordering new shoes, put the JP shoes on from last year just for a Hoot and they felt wonderful!
Now, My delima! Should I go with just PRIEST down the back of the shoe, or should I cram creativity into it and spell KKDOWNING down the back spine? They are already on to what I wrote last year, which was THE PRIEST, and I'm not able to get that again.
Give me some input! As I'm ordering them in leather this time and cant wait to have them on my tootsies!
| | | Becks wrote: | | Interesting topic!
Spa is right, it can be difficult to get around Europe - especially if the country you are going to is either not in the EU or is part of the eastern block.
I think all over the world there is a solid core of metal fans - we all know a true metal supporter is so for life! I know that even though the 'popular' music here in NZ at the moment is stupid hip hop bullshit, but there are plenty metal fans here too! But it is a long way for a band to travel, to come and play for us. And our population compared to other countries is miniscule, only 4 million. |
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| [Vaillant 3.0] Saturday, September 05, 2009 6:48:47 PM | |
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Hope so. Don't know the maximum number of letters allowed, though... Spa might know...
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Becks from Saturday, September 05, 2009 6:45:07 PM)| | | Becks wrote: | | Oooooh yeah, I wonder if Metal Gods would fit and be allowed? LOL!
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | How about songs? You know, like "Painkiller" or "Hellrider" or something like that?
| | | Becks wrote: | | Hmmm, what other Priest related slogans will fit on the back and not infringe on any copyright? LOL!
| | | spapad wrote: | | If mine go through I'll let you know, as "the priest" alread wont go through since last year, as soon as they find out a clever fan they dismiss them, so it mine go through I'll tell you and you should order them VERY soon.
| | | Becks wrote: | | Oooooh you just reminded me that I want to make my own chucks too, cos they can be sent to my sister in the UK and she will forward them on to me! KKDOWNING would be cool down the spine! I want something Priest related too! LOL!
| | | spapad wrote: | | Well thanks Becks and now I'm going to go totally off subject and ask you, as I am ordering new shoes, put the JP shoes on from last year just for a Hoot and they felt wonderful!
Now, My delima! Should I go with just PRIEST down the back of the shoe, or should I cram creativity into it and spell KKDOWNING down the back spine? They are already on to what I wrote last year, which was THE PRIEST, and I'm not able to get that again.
Give me some input! As I'm ordering them in leather this time and cant wait to have them on my tootsies!
| | | Becks wrote: | | Interesting topic!
Spa is right, it can be difficult to get around Europe - especially if the country you are going to is either not in the EU or is part of the eastern block.
I think all over the world there is a solid core of metal fans - we all know a true metal supporter is so for life! I know that even though the 'popular' music here in NZ at the moment is stupid hip hop bullshit, but there are plenty metal fans here too! But it is a long way for a band to travel, to come and play for us. And our population compared to other countries is miniscule, only 4 million. |
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| [Becks] Saturday, September 05, 2009 6:45:07 PM | |
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Oooooh yeah, I wonder if Metal Gods would fit and be allowed? LOL!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Saturday, September 05, 2009 6:44:28 PM)| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | How about songs? You know, like "Painkiller" or "Hellrider" or something like that?
| | | Becks wrote: | | Hmmm, what other Priest related slogans will fit on the back and not infringe on any copyright? LOL!
| | | spapad wrote: | | If mine go through I'll let you know, as "the priest" alread wont go through since last year, as soon as they find out a clever fan they dismiss them, so it mine go through I'll tell you and you should order them VERY soon.
| | | Becks wrote: | | Oooooh you just reminded me that I want to make my own chucks too, cos they can be sent to my sister in the UK and she will forward them on to me! KKDOWNING would be cool down the spine! I want something Priest related too! LOL!
| | | spapad wrote: | | Well thanks Becks and now I'm going to go totally off subject and ask you, as I am ordering new shoes, put the JP shoes on from last year just for a Hoot and they felt wonderful!
Now, My delima! Should I go with just PRIEST down the back of the shoe, or should I cram creativity into it and spell KKDOWNING down the back spine? They are already on to what I wrote last year, which was THE PRIEST, and I'm not able to get that again.
Give me some input! As I'm ordering them in leather this time and cant wait to have them on my tootsies!
| | | Becks wrote: | | Interesting topic!
Spa is right, it can be difficult to get around Europe - especially if the country you are going to is either not in the EU or is part of the eastern block.
I think all over the world there is a solid core of metal fans - we all know a true metal supporter is so for life! I know that even though the 'popular' music here in NZ at the moment is stupid hip hop bullshit, but there are plenty metal fans here too! But it is a long way for a band to travel, to come and play for us. And our population compared to other countries is miniscule, only 4 million. |
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| [Vaillant 3.0] Saturday, September 05, 2009 6:44:28 PM | |
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How about songs? You know, like "Painkiller" or "Hellrider" or something like that?
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Becks from Saturday, September 05, 2009 6:43:04 PM)| | | Becks wrote: | | Hmmm, what other Priest related slogans will fit on the back and not infringe on any copyright? LOL!
| | | spapad wrote: | | If mine go through I'll let you know, as "the priest" alread wont go through since last year, as soon as they find out a clever fan they dismiss them, so it mine go through I'll tell you and you should order them VERY soon.
| | | Becks wrote: | | Oooooh you just reminded me that I want to make my own chucks too, cos they can be sent to my sister in the UK and she will forward them on to me! KKDOWNING would be cool down the spine! I want something Priest related too! LOL!
| | | spapad wrote: | | Well thanks Becks and now I'm going to go totally off subject and ask you, as I am ordering new shoes, put the JP shoes on from last year just for a Hoot and they felt wonderful!
Now, My delima! Should I go with just PRIEST down the back of the shoe, or should I cram creativity into it and spell KKDOWNING down the back spine? They are already on to what I wrote last year, which was THE PRIEST, and I'm not able to get that again.
Give me some input! As I'm ordering them in leather this time and cant wait to have them on my tootsies!
| | | Becks wrote: | | Interesting topic!
Spa is right, it can be difficult to get around Europe - especially if the country you are going to is either not in the EU or is part of the eastern block.
I think all over the world there is a solid core of metal fans - we all know a true metal supporter is so for life! I know that even though the 'popular' music here in NZ at the moment is stupid hip hop bullshit, but there are plenty metal fans here too! But it is a long way for a band to travel, to come and play for us. And our population compared to other countries is miniscule, only 4 million. |
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| [Becks] Saturday, September 05, 2009 6:43:04 PM | |
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Hmmm, what other Priest related slogans will fit on the back and not infringe on any copyright? LOL!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Saturday, September 05, 2009 6:41:45 PM)| | | spapad wrote: | | If mine go through I'll let you know, as "the priest" alread wont go through since last year, as soon as they find out a clever fan they dismiss them, so it mine go through I'll tell you and you should order them VERY soon.
| | | Becks wrote: | | Oooooh you just reminded me that I want to make my own chucks too, cos they can be sent to my sister in the UK and she will forward them on to me! KKDOWNING would be cool down the spine! I want something Priest related too! LOL!
| | | spapad wrote: | | Well thanks Becks and now I'm going to go totally off subject and ask you, as I am ordering new shoes, put the JP shoes on from last year just for a Hoot and they felt wonderful!
Now, My delima! Should I go with just PRIEST down the back of the shoe, or should I cram creativity into it and spell KKDOWNING down the back spine? They are already on to what I wrote last year, which was THE PRIEST, and I'm not able to get that again.
Give me some input! As I'm ordering them in leather this time and cant wait to have them on my tootsies!
| | | Becks wrote: | | Interesting topic!
Spa is right, it can be difficult to get around Europe - especially if the country you are going to is either not in the EU or is part of the eastern block.
I think all over the world there is a solid core of metal fans - we all know a true metal supporter is so for life! I know that even though the 'popular' music here in NZ at the moment is stupid hip hop bullshit, but there are plenty metal fans here too! But it is a long way for a band to travel, to come and play for us. And our population compared to other countries is miniscule, only 4 million. |
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| [spapad] Saturday, September 05, 2009 6:41:45 PM | |
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If mine go through I'll let you know, as "the priest" alread wont go through since last year, as soon as they find out a clever fan they dismiss them, so it mine go through I'll tell you and you should order them VERY soon.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Becks from Saturday, September 05, 2009 6:39:05 PM)| | | Becks wrote: | | Oooooh you just reminded me that I want to make my own chucks too, cos they can be sent to my sister in the UK and she will forward them on to me! KKDOWNING would be cool down the spine! I want something Priest related too! LOL!
| | | spapad wrote: | | Well thanks Becks and now I'm going to go totally off subject and ask you, as I am ordering new shoes, put the JP shoes on from last year just for a Hoot and they felt wonderful!
Now, My delima! Should I go with just PRIEST down the back of the shoe, or should I cram creativity into it and spell KKDOWNING down the back spine? They are already on to what I wrote last year, which was THE PRIEST, and I'm not able to get that again.
Give me some input! As I'm ordering them in leather this time and cant wait to have them on my tootsies!
| | | Becks wrote: | | Interesting topic!
Spa is right, it can be difficult to get around Europe - especially if the country you are going to is either not in the EU or is part of the eastern block.
I think all over the world there is a solid core of metal fans - we all know a true metal supporter is so for life! I know that even though the 'popular' music here in NZ at the moment is stupid hip hop bullshit, but there are plenty metal fans here too! But it is a long way for a band to travel, to come and play for us. And our population compared to other countries is miniscule, only 4 million. |
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| [Becks] Saturday, September 05, 2009 6:39:05 PM | |
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Oooooh you just reminded me that I want to make my own chucks too, cos they can be sent to my sister in the UK and she will forward them on to me! KKDOWNING would be cool down the spine! I want something Priest related too! LOL!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Saturday, September 05, 2009 5:07:14 PM)| | | spapad wrote: | | Well thanks Becks and now I'm going to go totally off subject and ask you, as I am ordering new shoes, put the JP shoes on from last year just for a Hoot and they felt wonderful!
Now, My delima! Should I go with just PRIEST down the back of the shoe, or should I cram creativity into it and spell KKDOWNING down the back spine? They are already on to what I wrote last year, which was THE PRIEST, and I'm not able to get that again.
Give me some input! As I'm ordering them in leather this time and cant wait to have them on my tootsies!
| | | Becks wrote: | | Interesting topic!
Spa is right, it can be difficult to get around Europe - especially if the country you are going to is either not in the EU or is part of the eastern block.
I think all over the world there is a solid core of metal fans - we all know a true metal supporter is so for life! I know that even though the 'popular' music here in NZ at the moment is stupid hip hop bullshit, but there are plenty metal fans here too! But it is a long way for a band to travel, to come and play for us. And our population compared to other countries is miniscule, only 4 million. |
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Well thanks Becks and now I'm going to go totally off subject and ask you, as I am ordering new shoes, put the JP shoes on from last year just for a Hoot and they felt wonderful!
Now, My delima! Should I go with just PRIEST down the back of the shoe, or should I cram creativity into it and spell KKDOWNING down the back spine? They are already on to what I wrote last year, which was THE PRIEST, and I'm not able to get that again.
Give me some input! As I'm ordering them in leather this time and cant wait to have them on my tootsies!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Becks from Saturday, September 05, 2009 4:45:42 PM)| | | Becks wrote: | | Interesting topic!
Spa is right, it can be difficult to get around Europe - especially if the country you are going to is either not in the EU or is part of the eastern block.
I think all over the world there is a solid core of metal fans - we all know a true metal supporter is so for life! I know that even though the 'popular' music here in NZ at the moment is stupid hip hop bullshit, but there are plenty metal fans here too! But it is a long way for a band to travel, to come and play for us. And our population compared to other countries is miniscule, only 4 million. |
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| [Becks] Saturday, September 05, 2009 4:45:42 PM | |
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Interesting topic!
Spa is right, it can be difficult to get around Europe - especially if the country you are going to is either not in the EU or is part of the eastern block.
I think all over the world there is a solid core of metal fans - we all know a true metal supporter is so for life! I know that even though the 'popular' music here in NZ at the moment is stupid hip hop bullshit, but there are plenty metal fans here too! But it is a long way for a band to travel, to come and play for us. And our population compared to other countries is miniscule, only 4 million. |
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Wow that is a beutiful sight! I'll add that to the neverending lists of places I would love to see before I die!
Yes, I know all about the discount stores clientel. They are sometimes suprisingly scary! Saw a man on one of those scooters with amputated legs one time, and I swear his girth still must have weighed in at 400 pounds sans legs! That little cart must have been laboring under his weight! Would not suprise me if the battery died on him before his shopping was done and he had to ring for a back up! Sad really, as if it was not for his head he seemed as though he could just roll where ever he needed to go. I would laugh, but it's not funny.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Head banger from Saturday, September 05, 2009 1:38:31 PM)| | | Head banger wrote: | | speaking of you and guido bemoaning your circumstances I was in a discount store yesterday. you can tell its a good discount store if the people there make you think that walmart shopers are atractive. the woman with a bald spot, 1 tooth (I didnt peer to far into her mouth but I could see 1 and it was wide open) was not the least atractive shoper. you also got to love it when some people dress such that a cheap hooker on a streetcorner looks more respectable.
at least I am in a city of 1 milion (or right outside)
and I am three hours from a real waterfall, niagra is ok, but this is awesome.
takakawa (sp) falls BC. 3.5 hours away from me. 396 feet I think.
| | | spapad wrote: | | Oh my God, and me and Guids bemoan our circumstances! That is a hell of a long ways! When I was going to Florida last year each time I saw Canada plates I wondered just how long had they traveled? When I lived in Northern VA, I once thought on a whim I would drive to the Niagra Falls, but then I saw it was 18 hours away and decided that was too much for a weekend whim. LOL
| | | Head banger wrote: | | yeah, to go to one recorded would be cool. 10 hours would not get me to a major US city, unless you were to count great falls as major. didnt think so. think 12 hours would get me to seatle.
| | | spapad wrote: | | I would have cringed at 10 hours as well, UNLESS the Management would have told us about the Hollywood, FL show then I would have drove the 10 hours with not a single complaint! Damnit. Must not be any Major US cities right under your part of Cananda? Shame. Sorry! I do miss the 80's when bands went EVERYWHERE!
| | | Head banger wrote: | | yep. if they were within a 10 hour drive of me I might have considered it. but the closest this year I got was 22 hours to colorado. but... what should I do? sure a shit if I moved to somewhere they have never missed they would never go back. plus to stay in canada that would mean living in toronto. prison would be better
| | | spapad wrote: | | Not to be whining but the entire southern US east coast was missed last year. Except the one show at Bristow, VA.
They have not played NC, SC, in so long I think the last time they were there was turbo? Alabama, Mississippi and Louisianna can forget about it! They would have to to to Texas, TN or GA. Florida got a few shows this year and one in GA, but that's it. If your a fan, and live in these parts, well you simply have to face facts that travel will always be a part of it.
| | | Head banger wrote: | | yeah we got a good tour in 2008. Calgary had a shortened set cause they were in a festival, but it was a good show.
| | | spapad wrote: | | Actually, I was not refering to band travel in europe as much as fan travel in europe.
Even with the shows they did play in the US this year, there are people who had to do some serious traveling to get to a show.
HB, sorry Canada took a miss this year, but were they not there more last year? I could be wrong and I haven't checked the back dates. This show was largely due because 12 shows in the US is just very limited, and that is what they did last year.
It will certainly NEVER be like the days of old where I could have seen them at least 2 times in VA once in Maryland, twice in NC, and then could have branched out to TN, they will never tour like that again, sadly those days are long gone.
| | | ron h wrote: | | Euro Disney doesn't do well because Europe has real castles and we don't!!
Visa issues aren't that big of a deal because management takes care of a lot of that stuff in advance. As far as the actual travel, they could fly a charter or helicopter in if it was that bad. But all that does is reinforce why I think they play fewer shows in larger venues there (and Europe was just 1 example). How many shows did Priest play in Canada?? One, maybe two? Austrailia?
Remember, I'm just a fan giving an opinion here and don't know for sure one way or the other...an educated guess if you will. The real reason(s) may have nothing at all to do with any of what's been mentioned here, but this topic does make me think...damn you Prowler!!!
| | | spapad wrote: | | Strat has some valid points Ron. Travel in europe is not the easiest thing to do, there are visas involved, and the roads are terrible in alot of places as they still follow the contour of the land and that means while you drive up a mountain forever your not really making much headway, or you drive along a coastline hugging every turn in and out lots of mileage with very little progress. I would be like befor the interstates where built in the US, long winding roads that take you forever to get somewhere, and then imagine having to show visa's at each state line. Big pain in the ass. For instance, why does Euro Disney do so poorly, because travel is such a pain to get there, Why not just hop a plane to Florida and you only need one visa to do it!
So, it's not easy to move about europe in vast milage.
The reason the bands play so many venues here is the area of the US is so vast, and in general most americans are too lazy to put forth too much mileage to go see a show. They may do it for a vacation but many of them simply wouldn't bother for a show.
Ron you may have had that many accessbile shows, but the closest show to me, would have been a five and a half hour trip, that was the CLOSEST, which I didn't go to, but I went to the third closest to me which was a 7 and half hour trip, close to 400 miles, if not more. The second closest would have been Pittsburgh at six and a half hours. So not everyone had shows that close to them.
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Hmm... If Im not much mistaken, the nearest they came to me on this tour is Vienna... WHich is about 3 or 4 hours drive away... On an empty road, with no stops, with favourable wind. That is if they dont reschedule the shows in Zagreb and Belgrade, which they still havent, and I dont know what they are waiting for.
IDK, they certainly have a packed schedule on the American tour, maybe thats why they find it hard to do more shows elsewhere. IDK, we would have to ask them. Or wheover organises those shows for them.
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Hey Strat...To better illustrate my thinking which has been known to be flawed lol here's what I mean...
My home to...
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...Milwaukee 103 miles
...Indianapolis 143 miles
...Detroit 236 miles
...Cleveland 281 miles
...St. Louis 423 miles
If I'm not mistaken, Priest played all of the cities...if they wer're to only play 1 maybe 2 of these cities, there wouldn't have been an empty seat in the house and could have probably played (a) bigger venue(s). Priest are loyal to their core group of fans and they'll play anywhere here (and we thank them for it) but I think they pay a price for it as well.
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IDK about that... Theres about twice as many people living in Europe than in whole of north America. They could double the number of European shows, and still play in full venues. What is true, I guess, is that all the borders and stuff makes it more time consuming and expensive to travel, thats why it makes it difficult when they skip enitre countries on tours.
IDK, I usualy envy you guys in the states... It seems like whenever someone goes on tour there, they play everywhere where there are at least ten fans.
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I think it's because of the size of the States. Overseas you've got smaller countries grouped together, like our New England states, therefore there's no need to play a 30 show tour in say Europe...a couple of shows will do it and the fans flock because there's so few. Using where I live as an example, I could have caught Priest at any one of 6 of their shows all within 500 miles **Chicago, Milwaukee, St. Louis, Indianaplois, Detroit or Cleveland**
That being said, we don't have a Download Festival type event. At one time we had the US Festival, which if continued it could have rivaled a Download, but that never happened. Just an opinion off the top of my head...but it's certainly not for a lack of enthusiasm!!!
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I was watching That Metal Show the other day and they had a special from the Download Festival. It seemed to me that there seems to be a greater outlet for metal bands overseas than there is in the US. I am not talking about the intensity of the fans but a greater chance for exposure of bands overseas. Why is it that some bands can play larger venues overseas but come to the US and have to play clubs (if they even tour the US at all)? Thoughts? Comments?
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speaking of you and guido bemoaning your circumstances I was in a discount store yesterday. you can tell its a good discount store if the people there make you think that walmart shopers are atractive. the woman with a bald spot, 1 tooth (I didnt peer to far into her mouth but I could see 1 and it was wide open) was not the least atractive shoper. you also got to love it when some people dress such that a cheap hooker on a streetcorner looks more respectable.
at least I am in a city of 1 milion (or right outside)
and I am three hours from a real waterfall, niagra is ok, but this is awesome.
takakawa (sp) falls BC. 3.5 hours away from me. 396 feet I think.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Saturday, September 05, 2009 1:19:27 PM)| | | spapad wrote: | | Oh my God, and me and Guids bemoan our circumstances! That is a hell of a long ways! When I was going to Florida last year each time I saw Canada plates I wondered just how long had they traveled? When I lived in Northern VA, I once thought on a whim I would drive to the Niagra Falls, but then I saw it was 18 hours away and decided that was too much for a weekend whim. LOL
| | | Head banger wrote: | | yeah, to go to one recorded would be cool. 10 hours would not get me to a major US city, unless you were to count great falls as major. didnt think so. think 12 hours would get me to seatle.
| | | spapad wrote: | | I would have cringed at 10 hours as well, UNLESS the Management would have told us about the Hollywood, FL show then I would have drove the 10 hours with not a single complaint! Damnit. Must not be any Major US cities right under your part of Cananda? Shame. Sorry! I do miss the 80's when bands went EVERYWHERE!
| | | Head banger wrote: | | yep. if they were within a 10 hour drive of me I might have considered it. but the closest this year I got was 22 hours to colorado. but... what should I do? sure a shit if I moved to somewhere they have never missed they would never go back. plus to stay in canada that would mean living in toronto. prison would be better
| | | spapad wrote: | | Not to be whining but the entire southern US east coast was missed last year. Except the one show at Bristow, VA.
They have not played NC, SC, in so long I think the last time they were there was turbo? Alabama, Mississippi and Louisianna can forget about it! They would have to to to Texas, TN or GA. Florida got a few shows this year and one in GA, but that's it. If your a fan, and live in these parts, well you simply have to face facts that travel will always be a part of it.
| | | Head banger wrote: | | yeah we got a good tour in 2008. Calgary had a shortened set cause they were in a festival, but it was a good show.
| | | spapad wrote: | | Actually, I was not refering to band travel in europe as much as fan travel in europe.
Even with the shows they did play in the US this year, there are people who had to do some serious traveling to get to a show.
HB, sorry Canada took a miss this year, but were they not there more last year? I could be wrong and I haven't checked the back dates. This show was largely due because 12 shows in the US is just very limited, and that is what they did last year.
It will certainly NEVER be like the days of old where I could have seen them at least 2 times in VA once in Maryland, twice in NC, and then could have branched out to TN, they will never tour like that again, sadly those days are long gone.
| | | ron h wrote: | | Euro Disney doesn't do well because Europe has real castles and we don't!!
Visa issues aren't that big of a deal because management takes care of a lot of that stuff in advance. As far as the actual travel, they could fly a charter or helicopter in if it was that bad. But all that does is reinforce why I think they play fewer shows in larger venues there (and Europe was just 1 example). How many shows did Priest play in Canada?? One, maybe two? Austrailia?
Remember, I'm just a fan giving an opinion here and don't know for sure one way or the other...an educated guess if you will. The real reason(s) may have nothing at all to do with any of what's been mentioned here, but this topic does make me think...damn you Prowler!!!
| | | spapad wrote: | | Strat has some valid points Ron. Travel in europe is not the easiest thing to do, there are visas involved, and the roads are terrible in alot of places as they still follow the contour of the land and that means while you drive up a mountain forever your not really making much headway, or you drive along a coastline hugging every turn in and out lots of mileage with very little progress. I would be like befor the interstates where built in the US, long winding roads that take you forever to get somewhere, and then imagine having to show visa's at each state line. Big pain in the ass. For instance, why does Euro Disney do so poorly, because travel is such a pain to get there, Why not just hop a plane to Florida and you only need one visa to do it!
So, it's not easy to move about europe in vast milage.
The reason the bands play so many venues here is the area of the US is so vast, and in general most americans are too lazy to put forth too much mileage to go see a show. They may do it for a vacation but many of them simply wouldn't bother for a show.
Ron you may have had that many accessbile shows, but the closest show to me, would have been a five and a half hour trip, that was the CLOSEST, which I didn't go to, but I went to the third closest to me which was a 7 and half hour trip, close to 400 miles, if not more. The second closest would have been Pittsburgh at six and a half hours. So not everyone had shows that close to them.
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Hmm... If Im not much mistaken, the nearest they came to me on this tour is Vienna... WHich is about 3 or 4 hours drive away... On an empty road, with no stops, with favourable wind. That is if they dont reschedule the shows in Zagreb and Belgrade, which they still havent, and I dont know what they are waiting for.
IDK, they certainly have a packed schedule on the American tour, maybe thats why they find it hard to do more shows elsewhere. IDK, we would have to ask them. Or wheover organises those shows for them.
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Hey Strat...To better illustrate my thinking which has been known to be flawed lol here's what I mean...
My home to...
...downtown Chicago 18 miles
...Milwaukee 103 miles
...Indianapolis 143 miles
...Detroit 236 miles
...Cleveland 281 miles
...St. Louis 423 miles
If I'm not mistaken, Priest played all of the cities...if they wer're to only play 1 maybe 2 of these cities, there wouldn't have been an empty seat in the house and could have probably played (a) bigger venue(s). Priest are loyal to their core group of fans and they'll play anywhere here (and we thank them for it) but I think they pay a price for it as well.
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IDK about that... Theres about twice as many people living in Europe than in whole of north America. They could double the number of European shows, and still play in full venues. What is true, I guess, is that all the borders and stuff makes it more time consuming and expensive to travel, thats why it makes it difficult when they skip enitre countries on tours.
IDK, I usualy envy you guys in the states... It seems like whenever someone goes on tour there, they play everywhere where there are at least ten fans.
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I think it's because of the size of the States. Overseas you've got smaller countries grouped together, like our New England states, therefore there's no need to play a 30 show tour in say Europe...a couple of shows will do it and the fans flock because there's so few. Using where I live as an example, I could have caught Priest at any one of 6 of their shows all within 500 miles **Chicago, Milwaukee, St. Louis, Indianaplois, Detroit or Cleveland**
That being said, we don't have a Download Festival type event. At one time we had the US Festival, which if continued it could have rivaled a Download, but that never happened. Just an opinion off the top of my head...but it's certainly not for a lack of enthusiasm!!!
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I was watching That Metal Show the other day and they had a special from the Download Festival. It seemed to me that there seems to be a greater outlet for metal bands overseas than there is in the US. I am not talking about the intensity of the fans but a greater chance for exposure of bands overseas. Why is it that some bands can play larger venues overseas but come to the US and have to play clubs (if they even tour the US at all)? Thoughts? Comments?
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Oh my God, and me and Guids bemoan our circumstances! That is a hell of a long ways! When I was going to Florida last year each time I saw Canada plates I wondered just how long had they traveled? When I lived in Northern VA, I once thought on a whim I would drive to the Niagra Falls, but then I saw it was 18 hours away and decided that was too much for a weekend whim. LOL
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Head banger from Saturday, September 05, 2009 1:07:44 PM)| | | Head banger wrote: | | yeah, to go to one recorded would be cool. 10 hours would not get me to a major US city, unless you were to count great falls as major. didnt think so. think 12 hours would get me to seatle.
| | | spapad wrote: | | I would have cringed at 10 hours as well, UNLESS the Management would have told us about the Hollywood, FL show then I would have drove the 10 hours with not a single complaint! Damnit. Must not be any Major US cities right under your part of Cananda? Shame. Sorry! I do miss the 80's when bands went EVERYWHERE!
| | | Head banger wrote: | | yep. if they were within a 10 hour drive of me I might have considered it. but the closest this year I got was 22 hours to colorado. but... what should I do? sure a shit if I moved to somewhere they have never missed they would never go back. plus to stay in canada that would mean living in toronto. prison would be better
| | | spapad wrote: | | Not to be whining but the entire southern US east coast was missed last year. Except the one show at Bristow, VA.
They have not played NC, SC, in so long I think the last time they were there was turbo? Alabama, Mississippi and Louisianna can forget about it! They would have to to to Texas, TN or GA. Florida got a few shows this year and one in GA, but that's it. If your a fan, and live in these parts, well you simply have to face facts that travel will always be a part of it.
| | | Head banger wrote: | | yeah we got a good tour in 2008. Calgary had a shortened set cause they were in a festival, but it was a good show.
| | | spapad wrote: | | Actually, I was not refering to band travel in europe as much as fan travel in europe.
Even with the shows they did play in the US this year, there are people who had to do some serious traveling to get to a show.
HB, sorry Canada took a miss this year, but were they not there more last year? I could be wrong and I haven't checked the back dates. This show was largely due because 12 shows in the US is just very limited, and that is what they did last year.
It will certainly NEVER be like the days of old where I could have seen them at least 2 times in VA once in Maryland, twice in NC, and then could have branched out to TN, they will never tour like that again, sadly those days are long gone.
| | | ron h wrote: | | Euro Disney doesn't do well because Europe has real castles and we don't!!
Visa issues aren't that big of a deal because management takes care of a lot of that stuff in advance. As far as the actual travel, they could fly a charter or helicopter in if it was that bad. But all that does is reinforce why I think they play fewer shows in larger venues there (and Europe was just 1 example). How many shows did Priest play in Canada?? One, maybe two? Austrailia?
Remember, I'm just a fan giving an opinion here and don't know for sure one way or the other...an educated guess if you will. The real reason(s) may have nothing at all to do with any of what's been mentioned here, but this topic does make me think...damn you Prowler!!!
| | | spapad wrote: | | Strat has some valid points Ron. Travel in europe is not the easiest thing to do, there are visas involved, and the roads are terrible in alot of places as they still follow the contour of the land and that means while you drive up a mountain forever your not really making much headway, or you drive along a coastline hugging every turn in and out lots of mileage with very little progress. I would be like befor the interstates where built in the US, long winding roads that take you forever to get somewhere, and then imagine having to show visa's at each state line. Big pain in the ass. For instance, why does Euro Disney do so poorly, because travel is such a pain to get there, Why not just hop a plane to Florida and you only need one visa to do it!
So, it's not easy to move about europe in vast milage.
The reason the bands play so many venues here is the area of the US is so vast, and in general most americans are too lazy to put forth too much mileage to go see a show. They may do it for a vacation but many of them simply wouldn't bother for a show.
Ron you may have had that many accessbile shows, but the closest show to me, would have been a five and a half hour trip, that was the CLOSEST, which I didn't go to, but I went to the third closest to me which was a 7 and half hour trip, close to 400 miles, if not more. The second closest would have been Pittsburgh at six and a half hours. So not everyone had shows that close to them.
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Hmm... If Im not much mistaken, the nearest they came to me on this tour is Vienna... WHich is about 3 or 4 hours drive away... On an empty road, with no stops, with favourable wind. That is if they dont reschedule the shows in Zagreb and Belgrade, which they still havent, and I dont know what they are waiting for.
IDK, they certainly have a packed schedule on the American tour, maybe thats why they find it hard to do more shows elsewhere. IDK, we would have to ask them. Or wheover organises those shows for them.
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Hey Strat...To better illustrate my thinking which has been known to be flawed lol here's what I mean...
My home to...
...downtown Chicago 18 miles
...Milwaukee 103 miles
...Indianapolis 143 miles
...Detroit 236 miles
...Cleveland 281 miles
...St. Louis 423 miles
If I'm not mistaken, Priest played all of the cities...if they wer're to only play 1 maybe 2 of these cities, there wouldn't have been an empty seat in the house and could have probably played (a) bigger venue(s). Priest are loyal to their core group of fans and they'll play anywhere here (and we thank them for it) but I think they pay a price for it as well.
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IDK about that... Theres about twice as many people living in Europe than in whole of north America. They could double the number of European shows, and still play in full venues. What is true, I guess, is that all the borders and stuff makes it more time consuming and expensive to travel, thats why it makes it difficult when they skip enitre countries on tours.
IDK, I usualy envy you guys in the states... It seems like whenever someone goes on tour there, they play everywhere where there are at least ten fans.
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I think it's because of the size of the States. Overseas you've got smaller countries grouped together, like our New England states, therefore there's no need to play a 30 show tour in say Europe...a couple of shows will do it and the fans flock because there's so few. Using where I live as an example, I could have caught Priest at any one of 6 of their shows all within 500 miles **Chicago, Milwaukee, St. Louis, Indianaplois, Detroit or Cleveland**
That being said, we don't have a Download Festival type event. At one time we had the US Festival, which if continued it could have rivaled a Download, but that never happened. Just an opinion off the top of my head...but it's certainly not for a lack of enthusiasm!!!
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I was watching That Metal Show the other day and they had a special from the Download Festival. It seemed to me that there seems to be a greater outlet for metal bands overseas than there is in the US. I am not talking about the intensity of the fans but a greater chance for exposure of bands overseas. Why is it that some bands can play larger venues overseas but come to the US and have to play clubs (if they even tour the US at all)? Thoughts? Comments?
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yeah, to go to one recorded would be cool. 10 hours would not get me to a major US city, unless you were to count great falls as major. didnt think so. think 12 hours would get me to seatle.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Saturday, September 05, 2009 12:54:25 PM)| | | spapad wrote: | | I would have cringed at 10 hours as well, UNLESS the Management would have told us about the Hollywood, FL show then I would have drove the 10 hours with not a single complaint! Damnit. Must not be any Major US cities right under your part of Cananda? Shame. Sorry! I do miss the 80's when bands went EVERYWHERE!
| | | Head banger wrote: | | yep. if they were within a 10 hour drive of me I might have considered it. but the closest this year I got was 22 hours to colorado. but... what should I do? sure a shit if I moved to somewhere they have never missed they would never go back. plus to stay in canada that would mean living in toronto. prison would be better
| | | spapad wrote: | | Not to be whining but the entire southern US east coast was missed last year. Except the one show at Bristow, VA.
They have not played NC, SC, in so long I think the last time they were there was turbo? Alabama, Mississippi and Louisianna can forget about it! They would have to to to Texas, TN or GA. Florida got a few shows this year and one in GA, but that's it. If your a fan, and live in these parts, well you simply have to face facts that travel will always be a part of it.
| | | Head banger wrote: | | yeah we got a good tour in 2008. Calgary had a shortened set cause they were in a festival, but it was a good show.
| | | spapad wrote: | | Actually, I was not refering to band travel in europe as much as fan travel in europe.
Even with the shows they did play in the US this year, there are people who had to do some serious traveling to get to a show.
HB, sorry Canada took a miss this year, but were they not there more last year? I could be wrong and I haven't checked the back dates. This show was largely due because 12 shows in the US is just very limited, and that is what they did last year.
It will certainly NEVER be like the days of old where I could have seen them at least 2 times in VA once in Maryland, twice in NC, and then could have branched out to TN, they will never tour like that again, sadly those days are long gone.
| | | ron h wrote: | | Euro Disney doesn't do well because Europe has real castles and we don't!!
Visa issues aren't that big of a deal because management takes care of a lot of that stuff in advance. As far as the actual travel, they could fly a charter or helicopter in if it was that bad. But all that does is reinforce why I think they play fewer shows in larger venues there (and Europe was just 1 example). How many shows did Priest play in Canada?? One, maybe two? Austrailia?
Remember, I'm just a fan giving an opinion here and don't know for sure one way or the other...an educated guess if you will. The real reason(s) may have nothing at all to do with any of what's been mentioned here, but this topic does make me think...damn you Prowler!!!
| | | spapad wrote: | | Strat has some valid points Ron. Travel in europe is not the easiest thing to do, there are visas involved, and the roads are terrible in alot of places as they still follow the contour of the land and that means while you drive up a mountain forever your not really making much headway, or you drive along a coastline hugging every turn in and out lots of mileage with very little progress. I would be like befor the interstates where built in the US, long winding roads that take you forever to get somewhere, and then imagine having to show visa's at each state line. Big pain in the ass. For instance, why does Euro Disney do so poorly, because travel is such a pain to get there, Why not just hop a plane to Florida and you only need one visa to do it!
So, it's not easy to move about europe in vast milage.
The reason the bands play so many venues here is the area of the US is so vast, and in general most americans are too lazy to put forth too much mileage to go see a show. They may do it for a vacation but many of them simply wouldn't bother for a show.
Ron you may have had that many accessbile shows, but the closest show to me, would have been a five and a half hour trip, that was the CLOSEST, which I didn't go to, but I went to the third closest to me which was a 7 and half hour trip, close to 400 miles, if not more. The second closest would have been Pittsburgh at six and a half hours. So not everyone had shows that close to them.
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Hmm... If Im not much mistaken, the nearest they came to me on this tour is Vienna... WHich is about 3 or 4 hours drive away... On an empty road, with no stops, with favourable wind. That is if they dont reschedule the shows in Zagreb and Belgrade, which they still havent, and I dont know what they are waiting for.
IDK, they certainly have a packed schedule on the American tour, maybe thats why they find it hard to do more shows elsewhere. IDK, we would have to ask them. Or wheover organises those shows for them.
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Hey Strat...To better illustrate my thinking which has been known to be flawed lol here's what I mean...
My home to...
...downtown Chicago 18 miles
...Milwaukee 103 miles
...Indianapolis 143 miles
...Detroit 236 miles
...Cleveland 281 miles
...St. Louis 423 miles
If I'm not mistaken, Priest played all of the cities...if they wer're to only play 1 maybe 2 of these cities, there wouldn't have been an empty seat in the house and could have probably played (a) bigger venue(s). Priest are loyal to their core group of fans and they'll play anywhere here (and we thank them for it) but I think they pay a price for it as well.
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IDK about that... Theres about twice as many people living in Europe than in whole of north America. They could double the number of European shows, and still play in full venues. What is true, I guess, is that all the borders and stuff makes it more time consuming and expensive to travel, thats why it makes it difficult when they skip enitre countries on tours.
IDK, I usualy envy you guys in the states... It seems like whenever someone goes on tour there, they play everywhere where there are at least ten fans.
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I think it's because of the size of the States. Overseas you've got smaller countries grouped together, like our New England states, therefore there's no need to play a 30 show tour in say Europe...a couple of shows will do it and the fans flock because there's so few. Using where I live as an example, I could have caught Priest at any one of 6 of their shows all within 500 miles **Chicago, Milwaukee, St. Louis, Indianaplois, Detroit or Cleveland**
That being said, we don't have a Download Festival type event. At one time we had the US Festival, which if continued it could have rivaled a Download, but that never happened. Just an opinion off the top of my head...but it's certainly not for a lack of enthusiasm!!!
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I was watching That Metal Show the other day and they had a special from the Download Festival. It seemed to me that there seems to be a greater outlet for metal bands overseas than there is in the US. I am not talking about the intensity of the fans but a greater chance for exposure of bands overseas. Why is it that some bands can play larger venues overseas but come to the US and have to play clubs (if they even tour the US at all)? Thoughts? Comments?
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I would have cringed at 10 hours as well, UNLESS the Management would have told us about the Hollywood, FL show then I would have drove the 10 hours with not a single complaint! Damnit. Must not be any Major US cities right under your part of Cananda? Shame. Sorry! I do miss the 80's when bands went EVERYWHERE!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Head banger from Saturday, September 05, 2009 12:49:50 PM)| | | Head banger wrote: | | yep. if they were within a 10 hour drive of me I might have considered it. but the closest this year I got was 22 hours to colorado. but... what should I do? sure a shit if I moved to somewhere they have never missed they would never go back. plus to stay in canada that would mean living in toronto. prison would be better
| | | spapad wrote: | | Not to be whining but the entire southern US east coast was missed last year. Except the one show at Bristow, VA.
They have not played NC, SC, in so long I think the last time they were there was turbo? Alabama, Mississippi and Louisianna can forget about it! They would have to to to Texas, TN or GA. Florida got a few shows this year and one in GA, but that's it. If your a fan, and live in these parts, well you simply have to face facts that travel will always be a part of it.
| | | Head banger wrote: | | yeah we got a good tour in 2008. Calgary had a shortened set cause they were in a festival, but it was a good show.
| | | spapad wrote: | | Actually, I was not refering to band travel in europe as much as fan travel in europe.
Even with the shows they did play in the US this year, there are people who had to do some serious traveling to get to a show.
HB, sorry Canada took a miss this year, but were they not there more last year? I could be wrong and I haven't checked the back dates. This show was largely due because 12 shows in the US is just very limited, and that is what they did last year.
It will certainly NEVER be like the days of old where I could have seen them at least 2 times in VA once in Maryland, twice in NC, and then could have branched out to TN, they will never tour like that again, sadly those days are long gone.
| | | ron h wrote: | | Euro Disney doesn't do well because Europe has real castles and we don't!!
Visa issues aren't that big of a deal because management takes care of a lot of that stuff in advance. As far as the actual travel, they could fly a charter or helicopter in if it was that bad. But all that does is reinforce why I think they play fewer shows in larger venues there (and Europe was just 1 example). How many shows did Priest play in Canada?? One, maybe two? Austrailia?
Remember, I'm just a fan giving an opinion here and don't know for sure one way or the other...an educated guess if you will. The real reason(s) may have nothing at all to do with any of what's been mentioned here, but this topic does make me think...damn you Prowler!!!
| | | spapad wrote: | | Strat has some valid points Ron. Travel in europe is not the easiest thing to do, there are visas involved, and the roads are terrible in alot of places as they still follow the contour of the land and that means while you drive up a mountain forever your not really making much headway, or you drive along a coastline hugging every turn in and out lots of mileage with very little progress. I would be like befor the interstates where built in the US, long winding roads that take you forever to get somewhere, and then imagine having to show visa's at each state line. Big pain in the ass. For instance, why does Euro Disney do so poorly, because travel is such a pain to get there, Why not just hop a plane to Florida and you only need one visa to do it!
So, it's not easy to move about europe in vast milage.
The reason the bands play so many venues here is the area of the US is so vast, and in general most americans are too lazy to put forth too much mileage to go see a show. They may do it for a vacation but many of them simply wouldn't bother for a show.
Ron you may have had that many accessbile shows, but the closest show to me, would have been a five and a half hour trip, that was the CLOSEST, which I didn't go to, but I went to the third closest to me which was a 7 and half hour trip, close to 400 miles, if not more. The second closest would have been Pittsburgh at six and a half hours. So not everyone had shows that close to them.
(Quoting Message by _strat_ from Saturday, September 05, 2009 10:36:06 AM)
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Hmm... If Im not much mistaken, the nearest they came to me on this tour is Vienna... WHich is about 3 or 4 hours drive away... On an empty road, with no stops, with favourable wind. That is if they dont reschedule the shows in Zagreb and Belgrade, which they still havent, and I dont know what they are waiting for.
IDK, they certainly have a packed schedule on the American tour, maybe thats why they find it hard to do more shows elsewhere. IDK, we would have to ask them. Or wheover organises those shows for them.
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Hey Strat...To better illustrate my thinking which has been known to be flawed lol here's what I mean...
My home to...
...downtown Chicago 18 miles
...Milwaukee 103 miles
...Indianapolis 143 miles
...Detroit 236 miles
...Cleveland 281 miles
...St. Louis 423 miles
If I'm not mistaken, Priest played all of the cities...if they wer're to only play 1 maybe 2 of these cities, there wouldn't have been an empty seat in the house and could have probably played (a) bigger venue(s). Priest are loyal to their core group of fans and they'll play anywhere here (and we thank them for it) but I think they pay a price for it as well.
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IDK about that... Theres about twice as many people living in Europe than in whole of north America. They could double the number of European shows, and still play in full venues. What is true, I guess, is that all the borders and stuff makes it more time consuming and expensive to travel, thats why it makes it difficult when they skip enitre countries on tours.
IDK, I usualy envy you guys in the states... It seems like whenever someone goes on tour there, they play everywhere where there are at least ten fans.
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I think it's because of the size of the States. Overseas you've got smaller countries grouped together, like our New England states, therefore there's no need to play a 30 show tour in say Europe...a couple of shows will do it and the fans flock because there's so few. Using where I live as an example, I could have caught Priest at any one of 6 of their shows all within 500 miles **Chicago, Milwaukee, St. Louis, Indianaplois, Detroit or Cleveland**
That being said, we don't have a Download Festival type event. At one time we had the US Festival, which if continued it could have rivaled a Download, but that never happened. Just an opinion off the top of my head...but it's certainly not for a lack of enthusiasm!!!
(Quoting Message by ProwlerCub from Saturday, September 05, 2009 6:56:33 AM)
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I was watching That Metal Show the other day and they had a special from the Download Festival. It seemed to me that there seems to be a greater outlet for metal bands overseas than there is in the US. I am not talking about the intensity of the fans but a greater chance for exposure of bands overseas. Why is it that some bands can play larger venues overseas but come to the US and have to play clubs (if they even tour the US at all)? Thoughts? Comments?
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| [Head banger] Saturday, September 05, 2009 12:49:50 PM | |
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yep. if they were within a 10 hour drive of me I might have considered it. but the closest this year I got was 22 hours to colorado. but... what should I do? sure a shit if I moved to somewhere they have never missed they would never go back. plus to stay in canada that would mean living in toronto. prison would be better
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Saturday, September 05, 2009 12:42:19 PM)| | | spapad wrote: | | Not to be whining but the entire southern US east coast was missed last year. Except the one show at Bristow, VA.
They have not played NC, SC, in so long I think the last time they were there was turbo? Alabama, Mississippi and Louisianna can forget about it! They would have to to to Texas, TN or GA. Florida got a few shows this year and one in GA, but that's it. If your a fan, and live in these parts, well you simply have to face facts that travel will always be a part of it.
| | | Head banger wrote: | | yeah we got a good tour in 2008. Calgary had a shortened set cause they were in a festival, but it was a good show.
| | | spapad wrote: | | Actually, I was not refering to band travel in europe as much as fan travel in europe.
Even with the shows they did play in the US this year, there are people who had to do some serious traveling to get to a show.
HB, sorry Canada took a miss this year, but were they not there more last year? I could be wrong and I haven't checked the back dates. This show was largely due because 12 shows in the US is just very limited, and that is what they did last year.
It will certainly NEVER be like the days of old where I could have seen them at least 2 times in VA once in Maryland, twice in NC, and then could have branched out to TN, they will never tour like that again, sadly those days are long gone.
| | | ron h wrote: | | Euro Disney doesn't do well because Europe has real castles and we don't!!
Visa issues aren't that big of a deal because management takes care of a lot of that stuff in advance. As far as the actual travel, they could fly a charter or helicopter in if it was that bad. But all that does is reinforce why I think they play fewer shows in larger venues there (and Europe was just 1 example). How many shows did Priest play in Canada?? One, maybe two? Austrailia?
Remember, I'm just a fan giving an opinion here and don't know for sure one way or the other...an educated guess if you will. The real reason(s) may have nothing at all to do with any of what's been mentioned here, but this topic does make me think...damn you Prowler!!!
| | | spapad wrote: | | Strat has some valid points Ron. Travel in europe is not the easiest thing to do, there are visas involved, and the roads are terrible in alot of places as they still follow the contour of the land and that means while you drive up a mountain forever your not really making much headway, or you drive along a coastline hugging every turn in and out lots of mileage with very little progress. I would be like befor the interstates where built in the US, long winding roads that take you forever to get somewhere, and then imagine having to show visa's at each state line. Big pain in the ass. For instance, why does Euro Disney do so poorly, because travel is such a pain to get there, Why not just hop a plane to Florida and you only need one visa to do it!
So, it's not easy to move about europe in vast milage.
The reason the bands play so many venues here is the area of the US is so vast, and in general most americans are too lazy to put forth too much mileage to go see a show. They may do it for a vacation but many of them simply wouldn't bother for a show.
Ron you may have had that many accessbile shows, but the closest show to me, would have been a five and a half hour trip, that was the CLOSEST, which I didn't go to, but I went to the third closest to me which was a 7 and half hour trip, close to 400 miles, if not more. The second closest would have been Pittsburgh at six and a half hours. So not everyone had shows that close to them.
(Quoting Message by _strat_ from Saturday, September 05, 2009 10:36:06 AM)
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Hmm... If Im not much mistaken, the nearest they came to me on this tour is Vienna... WHich is about 3 or 4 hours drive away... On an empty road, with no stops, with favourable wind. That is if they dont reschedule the shows in Zagreb and Belgrade, which they still havent, and I dont know what they are waiting for.
IDK, they certainly have a packed schedule on the American tour, maybe thats why they find it hard to do more shows elsewhere. IDK, we would have to ask them. Or wheover organises those shows for them.
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Hey Strat...To better illustrate my thinking which has been known to be flawed lol here's what I mean...
My home to...
...downtown Chicago 18 miles
...Milwaukee 103 miles
...Indianapolis 143 miles
...Detroit 236 miles
...Cleveland 281 miles
...St. Louis 423 miles
If I'm not mistaken, Priest played all of the cities...if they wer're to only play 1 maybe 2 of these cities, there wouldn't have been an empty seat in the house and could have probably played (a) bigger venue(s). Priest are loyal to their core group of fans and they'll play anywhere here (and we thank them for it) but I think they pay a price for it as well.
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IDK about that... Theres about twice as many people living in Europe than in whole of north America. They could double the number of European shows, and still play in full venues. What is true, I guess, is that all the borders and stuff makes it more time consuming and expensive to travel, thats why it makes it difficult when they skip enitre countries on tours.
IDK, I usualy envy you guys in the states... It seems like whenever someone goes on tour there, they play everywhere where there are at least ten fans.
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I think it's because of the size of the States. Overseas you've got smaller countries grouped together, like our New England states, therefore there's no need to play a 30 show tour in say Europe...a couple of shows will do it and the fans flock because there's so few. Using where I live as an example, I could have caught Priest at any one of 6 of their shows all within 500 miles **Chicago, Milwaukee, St. Louis, Indianaplois, Detroit or Cleveland**
That being said, we don't have a Download Festival type event. At one time we had the US Festival, which if continued it could have rivaled a Download, but that never happened. Just an opinion off the top of my head...but it's certainly not for a lack of enthusiasm!!!
(Quoting Message by ProwlerCub from Saturday, September 05, 2009 6:56:33 AM)
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I was watching That Metal Show the other day and they had a special from the Download Festival. It seemed to me that there seems to be a greater outlet for metal bands overseas than there is in the US. I am not talking about the intensity of the fans but a greater chance for exposure of bands overseas. Why is it that some bands can play larger venues overseas but come to the US and have to play clubs (if they even tour the US at all)? Thoughts? Comments?
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| [spapad] Saturday, September 05, 2009 12:42:19 PM | |
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Not to be whining but the entire southern US east coast was missed last year. Except the one show at Bristow, VA.
They have not played NC, SC, in so long I think the last time they were there was turbo? Alabama, Mississippi and Louisianna can forget about it! They would have to to to Texas, TN or GA. Florida got a few shows this year and one in GA, but that's it. If your a fan, and live in these parts, well you simply have to face facts that travel will always be a part of it.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Head banger from Saturday, September 05, 2009 12:30:29 PM)| | | Head banger wrote: | | yeah we got a good tour in 2008. Calgary had a shortened set cause they were in a festival, but it was a good show.
| | | spapad wrote: | | Actually, I was not refering to band travel in europe as much as fan travel in europe.
Even with the shows they did play in the US this year, there are people who had to do some serious traveling to get to a show.
HB, sorry Canada took a miss this year, but were they not there more last year? I could be wrong and I haven't checked the back dates. This show was largely due because 12 shows in the US is just very limited, and that is what they did last year.
It will certainly NEVER be like the days of old where I could have seen them at least 2 times in VA once in Maryland, twice in NC, and then could have branched out to TN, they will never tour like that again, sadly those days are long gone.
| | | ron h wrote: | | Euro Disney doesn't do well because Europe has real castles and we don't!!
Visa issues aren't that big of a deal because management takes care of a lot of that stuff in advance. As far as the actual travel, they could fly a charter or helicopter in if it was that bad. But all that does is reinforce why I think they play fewer shows in larger venues there (and Europe was just 1 example). How many shows did Priest play in Canada?? One, maybe two? Austrailia?
Remember, I'm just a fan giving an opinion here and don't know for sure one way or the other...an educated guess if you will. The real reason(s) may have nothing at all to do with any of what's been mentioned here, but this topic does make me think...damn you Prowler!!!
| | | spapad wrote: | | Strat has some valid points Ron. Travel in europe is not the easiest thing to do, there are visas involved, and the roads are terrible in alot of places as they still follow the contour of the land and that means while you drive up a mountain forever your not really making much headway, or you drive along a coastline hugging every turn in and out lots of mileage with very little progress. I would be like befor the interstates where built in the US, long winding roads that take you forever to get somewhere, and then imagine having to show visa's at each state line. Big pain in the ass. For instance, why does Euro Disney do so poorly, because travel is such a pain to get there, Why not just hop a plane to Florida and you only need one visa to do it!
So, it's not easy to move about europe in vast milage.
The reason the bands play so many venues here is the area of the US is so vast, and in general most americans are too lazy to put forth too much mileage to go see a show. They may do it for a vacation but many of them simply wouldn't bother for a show.
Ron you may have had that many accessbile shows, but the closest show to me, would have been a five and a half hour trip, that was the CLOSEST, which I didn't go to, but I went to the third closest to me which was a 7 and half hour trip, close to 400 miles, if not more. The second closest would have been Pittsburgh at six and a half hours. So not everyone had shows that close to them.
(Quoting Message by _strat_ from Saturday, September 05, 2009 10:36:06 AM)
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Hmm... If Im not much mistaken, the nearest they came to me on this tour is Vienna... WHich is about 3 or 4 hours drive away... On an empty road, with no stops, with favourable wind. That is if they dont reschedule the shows in Zagreb and Belgrade, which they still havent, and I dont know what they are waiting for.
IDK, they certainly have a packed schedule on the American tour, maybe thats why they find it hard to do more shows elsewhere. IDK, we would have to ask them. Or wheover organises those shows for them.
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Hey Strat...To better illustrate my thinking which has been known to be flawed lol here's what I mean...
My home to...
...downtown Chicago 18 miles
...Milwaukee 103 miles
...Indianapolis 143 miles
...Detroit 236 miles
...Cleveland 281 miles
...St. Louis 423 miles
If I'm not mistaken, Priest played all of the cities...if they wer're to only play 1 maybe 2 of these cities, there wouldn't have been an empty seat in the house and could have probably played (a) bigger venue(s). Priest are loyal to their core group of fans and they'll play anywhere here (and we thank them for it) but I think they pay a price for it as well.
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IDK about that... Theres about twice as many people living in Europe than in whole of north America. They could double the number of European shows, and still play in full venues. What is true, I guess, is that all the borders and stuff makes it more time consuming and expensive to travel, thats why it makes it difficult when they skip enitre countries on tours.
IDK, I usualy envy you guys in the states... It seems like whenever someone goes on tour there, they play everywhere where there are at least ten fans.
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I think it's because of the size of the States. Overseas you've got smaller countries grouped together, like our New England states, therefore there's no need to play a 30 show tour in say Europe...a couple of shows will do it and the fans flock because there's so few. Using where I live as an example, I could have caught Priest at any one of 6 of their shows all within 500 miles **Chicago, Milwaukee, St. Louis, Indianaplois, Detroit or Cleveland**
That being said, we don't have a Download Festival type event. At one time we had the US Festival, which if continued it could have rivaled a Download, but that never happened. Just an opinion off the top of my head...but it's certainly not for a lack of enthusiasm!!!
(Quoting Message by ProwlerCub from Saturday, September 05, 2009 6:56:33 AM)
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I was watching That Metal Show the other day and they had a special from the Download Festival. It seemed to me that there seems to be a greater outlet for metal bands overseas than there is in the US. I am not talking about the intensity of the fans but a greater chance for exposure of bands overseas. Why is it that some bands can play larger venues overseas but come to the US and have to play clubs (if they even tour the US at all)? Thoughts? Comments?
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| [Head banger] Saturday, September 05, 2009 12:30:29 PM | |
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yeah we got a good tour in 2008. Calgary had a shortened set cause they were in a festival, but it was a good show.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Saturday, September 05, 2009 12:15:31 PM)| | | spapad wrote: | | Actually, I was not refering to band travel in europe as much as fan travel in europe.
Even with the shows they did play in the US this year, there are people who had to do some serious traveling to get to a show.
HB, sorry Canada took a miss this year, but were they not there more last year? I could be wrong and I haven't checked the back dates. This show was largely due because 12 shows in the US is just very limited, and that is what they did last year.
It will certainly NEVER be like the days of old where I could have seen them at least 2 times in VA once in Maryland, twice in NC, and then could have branched out to TN, they will never tour like that again, sadly those days are long gone.
| | | ron h wrote: | | Euro Disney doesn't do well because Europe has real castles and we don't!!
Visa issues aren't that big of a deal because management takes care of a lot of that stuff in advance. As far as the actual travel, they could fly a charter or helicopter in if it was that bad. But all that does is reinforce why I think they play fewer shows in larger venues there (and Europe was just 1 example). How many shows did Priest play in Canada?? One, maybe two? Austrailia?
Remember, I'm just a fan giving an opinion here and don't know for sure one way or the other...an educated guess if you will. The real reason(s) may have nothing at all to do with any of what's been mentioned here, but this topic does make me think...damn you Prowler!!!
| | | spapad wrote: | | Strat has some valid points Ron. Travel in europe is not the easiest thing to do, there are visas involved, and the roads are terrible in alot of places as they still follow the contour of the land and that means while you drive up a mountain forever your not really making much headway, or you drive along a coastline hugging every turn in and out lots of mileage with very little progress. I would be like befor the interstates where built in the US, long winding roads that take you forever to get somewhere, and then imagine having to show visa's at each state line. Big pain in the ass. For instance, why does Euro Disney do so poorly, because travel is such a pain to get there, Why not just hop a plane to Florida and you only need one visa to do it!
So, it's not easy to move about europe in vast milage.
The reason the bands play so many venues here is the area of the US is so vast, and in general most americans are too lazy to put forth too much mileage to go see a show. They may do it for a vacation but many of them simply wouldn't bother for a show.
Ron you may have had that many accessbile shows, but the closest show to me, would have been a five and a half hour trip, that was the CLOSEST, which I didn't go to, but I went to the third closest to me which was a 7 and half hour trip, close to 400 miles, if not more. The second closest would have been Pittsburgh at six and a half hours. So not everyone had shows that close to them.
(Quoting Message by _strat_ from Saturday, September 05, 2009 10:36:06 AM)
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Hmm... If Im not much mistaken, the nearest they came to me on this tour is Vienna... WHich is about 3 or 4 hours drive away... On an empty road, with no stops, with favourable wind. That is if they dont reschedule the shows in Zagreb and Belgrade, which they still havent, and I dont know what they are waiting for.
IDK, they certainly have a packed schedule on the American tour, maybe thats why they find it hard to do more shows elsewhere. IDK, we would have to ask them. Or wheover organises those shows for them.
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Hey Strat...To better illustrate my thinking which has been known to be flawed lol here's what I mean...
My home to...
...downtown Chicago 18 miles
...Milwaukee 103 miles
...Indianapolis 143 miles
...Detroit 236 miles
...Cleveland 281 miles
...St. Louis 423 miles
If I'm not mistaken, Priest played all of the cities...if they wer're to only play 1 maybe 2 of these cities, there wouldn't have been an empty seat in the house and could have probably played (a) bigger venue(s). Priest are loyal to their core group of fans and they'll play anywhere here (and we thank them for it) but I think they pay a price for it as well.
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IDK about that... Theres about twice as many people living in Europe than in whole of north America. They could double the number of European shows, and still play in full venues. What is true, I guess, is that all the borders and stuff makes it more time consuming and expensive to travel, thats why it makes it difficult when they skip enitre countries on tours.
IDK, I usualy envy you guys in the states... It seems like whenever someone goes on tour there, they play everywhere where there are at least ten fans.
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I think it's because of the size of the States. Overseas you've got smaller countries grouped together, like our New England states, therefore there's no need to play a 30 show tour in say Europe...a couple of shows will do it and the fans flock because there's so few. Using where I live as an example, I could have caught Priest at any one of 6 of their shows all within 500 miles **Chicago, Milwaukee, St. Louis, Indianaplois, Detroit or Cleveland**
That being said, we don't have a Download Festival type event. At one time we had the US Festival, which if continued it could have rivaled a Download, but that never happened. Just an opinion off the top of my head...but it's certainly not for a lack of enthusiasm!!!
(Quoting Message by ProwlerCub from Saturday, September 05, 2009 6:56:33 AM)
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I was watching That Metal Show the other day and they had a special from the Download Festival. It seemed to me that there seems to be a greater outlet for metal bands overseas than there is in the US. I am not talking about the intensity of the fans but a greater chance for exposure of bands overseas. Why is it that some bands can play larger venues overseas but come to the US and have to play clubs (if they even tour the US at all)? Thoughts? Comments?
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| [spapad] Saturday, September 05, 2009 12:15:31 PM | |
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Actually, I was not refering to band travel in europe as much as fan travel in europe.
Even with the shows they did play in the US this year, there are people who had to do some serious traveling to get to a show.
HB, sorry Canada took a miss this year, but were they not there more last year? I could be wrong and I haven't checked the back dates. This show was largely due because 12 shows in the US is just very limited, and that is what they did last year.
It will certainly NEVER be like the days of old where I could have seen them at least 2 times in VA once in Maryland, twice in NC, and then could have branched out to TN, they will never tour like that again, sadly those days are long gone.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by ron h from Saturday, September 05, 2009 11:38:21 AM)| | | ron h wrote: | | Euro Disney doesn't do well because Europe has real castles and we don't!!
Visa issues aren't that big of a deal because management takes care of a lot of that stuff in advance. As far as the actual travel, they could fly a charter or helicopter in if it was that bad. But all that does is reinforce why I think they play fewer shows in larger venues there (and Europe was just 1 example). How many shows did Priest play in Canada?? One, maybe two? Austrailia?
Remember, I'm just a fan giving an opinion here and don't know for sure one way or the other...an educated guess if you will. The real reason(s) may have nothing at all to do with any of what's been mentioned here, but this topic does make me think...damn you Prowler!!!
| | | spapad wrote: | | Strat has some valid points Ron. Travel in europe is not the easiest thing to do, there are visas involved, and the roads are terrible in alot of places as they still follow the contour of the land and that means while you drive up a mountain forever your not really making much headway, or you drive along a coastline hugging every turn in and out lots of mileage with very little progress. I would be like befor the interstates where built in the US, long winding roads that take you forever to get somewhere, and then imagine having to show visa's at each state line. Big pain in the ass. For instance, why does Euro Disney do so poorly, because travel is such a pain to get there, Why not just hop a plane to Florida and you only need one visa to do it!
So, it's not easy to move about europe in vast milage.
The reason the bands play so many venues here is the area of the US is so vast, and in general most americans are too lazy to put forth too much mileage to go see a show. They may do it for a vacation but many of them simply wouldn't bother for a show.
Ron you may have had that many accessbile shows, but the closest show to me, would have been a five and a half hour trip, that was the CLOSEST, which I didn't go to, but I went to the third closest to me which was a 7 and half hour trip, close to 400 miles, if not more. The second closest would have been Pittsburgh at six and a half hours. So not everyone had shows that close to them.
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Hmm... If Im not much mistaken, the nearest they came to me on this tour is Vienna... WHich is about 3 or 4 hours drive away... On an empty road, with no stops, with favourable wind. That is if they dont reschedule the shows in Zagreb and Belgrade, which they still havent, and I dont know what they are waiting for.
IDK, they certainly have a packed schedule on the American tour, maybe thats why they find it hard to do more shows elsewhere. IDK, we would have to ask them. Or wheover organises those shows for them.
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Hey Strat...To better illustrate my thinking which has been known to be flawed lol here's what I mean...
My home to...
...downtown Chicago 18 miles
...Milwaukee 103 miles
...Indianapolis 143 miles
...Detroit 236 miles
...Cleveland 281 miles
...St. Louis 423 miles
If I'm not mistaken, Priest played all of the cities...if they wer're to only play 1 maybe 2 of these cities, there wouldn't have been an empty seat in the house and could have probably played (a) bigger venue(s). Priest are loyal to their core group of fans and they'll play anywhere here (and we thank them for it) but I think they pay a price for it as well.
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IDK about that... Theres about twice as many people living in Europe than in whole of north America. They could double the number of European shows, and still play in full venues. What is true, I guess, is that all the borders and stuff makes it more time consuming and expensive to travel, thats why it makes it difficult when they skip enitre countries on tours.
IDK, I usualy envy you guys in the states... It seems like whenever someone goes on tour there, they play everywhere where there are at least ten fans.
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I think it's because of the size of the States. Overseas you've got smaller countries grouped together, like our New England states, therefore there's no need to play a 30 show tour in say Europe...a couple of shows will do it and the fans flock because there's so few. Using where I live as an example, I could have caught Priest at any one of 6 of their shows all within 500 miles **Chicago, Milwaukee, St. Louis, Indianaplois, Detroit or Cleveland**
That being said, we don't have a Download Festival type event. At one time we had the US Festival, which if continued it could have rivaled a Download, but that never happened. Just an opinion off the top of my head...but it's certainly not for a lack of enthusiasm!!!
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I was watching That Metal Show the other day and they had a special from the Download Festival. It seemed to me that there seems to be a greater outlet for metal bands overseas than there is in the US. I am not talking about the intensity of the fans but a greater chance for exposure of bands overseas. Why is it that some bands can play larger venues overseas but come to the US and have to play clubs (if they even tour the US at all)? Thoughts? Comments?
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Very interesting topic ...
I did notice the unusual tour pattern of the Priest-beast this summer - compared to previous tours.
I live relatively close to Chicago ... Priest actually played our city for the first time since Vengeance a couple years back.
I was unbelievably EMBARRASSED ... an 8000-capacity arena had all of 1500-2000 people.
Nice in my opinion - kinda like having the guys all to myself (teehee) ... and the played like there were 50K of us!
I think a lot of the tour choices are based on past history and supportive radio stations and fans ...
It ain't cheap putting on one of these tours ... you'd like to think ALL the folks involved at least break even.
Tours are a far cry from what they were in the 80s ... even Alpine Valley in East Troy Wisconsin only hosts 6 shows or so a summer ...
Jimmy Buffet being the standard annual show - couldn't tell you the last time I even heard a concert plugged for up there.
Strange times ... and the world wonders why it's in the toilet.
Gotta love the internet ... you can access your favorite people without ever leaving the safety of your home.
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Well, so does Germany. Thats a nation with about a hundred million people, and a lot of metal fans. Probably more than any other in Europe. Similar thing with the UK.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Head banger from Saturday, September 05, 2009 11:49:34 AM)| | | Head banger wrote: | | could be money??? despite the recession the USA has a very high average disposable income. logisticly easy to tour, near people with money??\
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | IDK about that... Theres about twice as many people living in Europe than in whole of north America. They could double the number of European shows, and still play in full venues. What is true, I guess, is that all the borders and stuff makes it more time consuming and expensive to travel, thats why it makes it difficult when they skip enitre countries on tours.
IDK, I usualy envy you guys in the states... It seems like whenever someone goes on tour there, they play everywhere where there are at least ten fans.
| | | ron h wrote: | | I think it's because of the size of the States. Overseas you've got smaller countries grouped together, like our New England states, therefore there's no need to play a 30 show tour in say Europe...a couple of shows will do it and the fans flock because there's so few. Using where I live as an example, I could have caught Priest at any one of 6 of their shows all within 500 miles **Chicago, Milwaukee, St. Louis, Indianaplois, Detroit or Cleveland**
That being said, we don't have a Download Festival type event. At one time we had the US Festival, which if continued it could have rivaled a Download, but that never happened. Just an opinion off the top of my head...but it's certainly not for a lack of enthusiasm!!!
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I was watching That Metal Show the other day and they had a special from the Download Festival. It seemed to me that there seems to be a greater outlet for metal bands overseas than there is in the US. I am not talking about the intensity of the fans but a greater chance for exposure of bands overseas. Why is it that some bands can play larger venues overseas but come to the US and have to play clubs (if they even tour the US at all)? Thoughts? Comments?
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1 in canada this tour. for a country with 33 million people in an area more than double the size of the USA or australia.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by ron h from Saturday, September 05, 2009 11:38:21 AM)| | | ron h wrote: | | Euro Disney doesn't do well because Europe has real castles and we don't!!
Visa issues aren't that big of a deal because management takes care of a lot of that stuff in advance. As far as the actual travel, they could fly a charter or helicopter in if it was that bad. But all that does is reinforce why I think they play fewer shows in larger venues there (and Europe was just 1 example). How many shows did Priest play in Canada?? One, maybe two? Austrailia?
Remember, I'm just a fan giving an opinion here and don't know for sure one way or the other...an educated guess if you will. The real reason(s) may have nothing at all to do with any of what's been mentioned here, but this topic does make me think...damn you Prowler!!!
| | | spapad wrote: | | Strat has some valid points Ron. Travel in europe is not the easiest thing to do, there are visas involved, and the roads are terrible in alot of places as they still follow the contour of the land and that means while you drive up a mountain forever your not really making much headway, or you drive along a coastline hugging every turn in and out lots of mileage with very little progress. I would be like befor the interstates where built in the US, long winding roads that take you forever to get somewhere, and then imagine having to show visa's at each state line. Big pain in the ass. For instance, why does Euro Disney do so poorly, because travel is such a pain to get there, Why not just hop a plane to Florida and you only need one visa to do it!
So, it's not easy to move about europe in vast milage.
The reason the bands play so many venues here is the area of the US is so vast, and in general most americans are too lazy to put forth too much mileage to go see a show. They may do it for a vacation but many of them simply wouldn't bother for a show.
Ron you may have had that many accessbile shows, but the closest show to me, would have been a five and a half hour trip, that was the CLOSEST, which I didn't go to, but I went to the third closest to me which was a 7 and half hour trip, close to 400 miles, if not more. The second closest would have been Pittsburgh at six and a half hours. So not everyone had shows that close to them.
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Hmm... If Im not much mistaken, the nearest they came to me on this tour is Vienna... WHich is about 3 or 4 hours drive away... On an empty road, with no stops, with favourable wind. That is if they dont reschedule the shows in Zagreb and Belgrade, which they still havent, and I dont know what they are waiting for.
IDK, they certainly have a packed schedule on the American tour, maybe thats why they find it hard to do more shows elsewhere. IDK, we would have to ask them. Or wheover organises those shows for them.
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Hey Strat...To better illustrate my thinking which has been known to be flawed lol here's what I mean...
My home to...
...downtown Chicago 18 miles
...Milwaukee 103 miles
...Indianapolis 143 miles
...Detroit 236 miles
...Cleveland 281 miles
...St. Louis 423 miles
If I'm not mistaken, Priest played all of the cities...if they wer're to only play 1 maybe 2 of these cities, there wouldn't have been an empty seat in the house and could have probably played (a) bigger venue(s). Priest are loyal to their core group of fans and they'll play anywhere here (and we thank them for it) but I think they pay a price for it as well.
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IDK about that... Theres about twice as many people living in Europe than in whole of north America. They could double the number of European shows, and still play in full venues. What is true, I guess, is that all the borders and stuff makes it more time consuming and expensive to travel, thats why it makes it difficult when they skip enitre countries on tours.
IDK, I usualy envy you guys in the states... It seems like whenever someone goes on tour there, they play everywhere where there are at least ten fans.
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I think it's because of the size of the States. Overseas you've got smaller countries grouped together, like our New England states, therefore there's no need to play a 30 show tour in say Europe...a couple of shows will do it and the fans flock because there's so few. Using where I live as an example, I could have caught Priest at any one of 6 of their shows all within 500 miles **Chicago, Milwaukee, St. Louis, Indianaplois, Detroit or Cleveland**
That being said, we don't have a Download Festival type event. At one time we had the US Festival, which if continued it could have rivaled a Download, but that never happened. Just an opinion off the top of my head...but it's certainly not for a lack of enthusiasm!!!
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I was watching That Metal Show the other day and they had a special from the Download Festival. It seemed to me that there seems to be a greater outlet for metal bands overseas than there is in the US. I am not talking about the intensity of the fans but a greater chance for exposure of bands overseas. Why is it that some bands can play larger venues overseas but come to the US and have to play clubs (if they even tour the US at all)? Thoughts? Comments?
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There is some great dialogue going on here and that is why I really like message boards. Someone mentioned promotion, there is not shit done for promotion in Florida (except for things like Britney or Coldplay as someone mentioned). I do find it funny that the rock stations will show up at these shows acting like they support whatever band but when you ask them about the band's latest release they look like you asked them to solve a physics problem. I have only been to Europe in the Navy back in the 90's and I remember going into the records stores and finding bands that I did not know were still around (for me it was Helloween at the time) and were making new music. We stopped in Malta one time and missed Maiden by a few weeks. I would love to hit a European show just to see the difference in the crowds.
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could be money??? despite the recession the USA has a very high average disposable income. logisticly easy to tour, near people with money??\
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by _strat_ from Saturday, September 05, 2009 9:47:39 AM)| | | _strat_ wrote: | | IDK about that... Theres about twice as many people living in Europe than in whole of north America. They could double the number of European shows, and still play in full venues. What is true, I guess, is that all the borders and stuff makes it more time consuming and expensive to travel, thats why it makes it difficult when they skip enitre countries on tours.
IDK, I usualy envy you guys in the states... It seems like whenever someone goes on tour there, they play everywhere where there are at least ten fans.
| | | ron h wrote: | | I think it's because of the size of the States. Overseas you've got smaller countries grouped together, like our New England states, therefore there's no need to play a 30 show tour in say Europe...a couple of shows will do it and the fans flock because there's so few. Using where I live as an example, I could have caught Priest at any one of 6 of their shows all within 500 miles **Chicago, Milwaukee, St. Louis, Indianaplois, Detroit or Cleveland**
That being said, we don't have a Download Festival type event. At one time we had the US Festival, which if continued it could have rivaled a Download, but that never happened. Just an opinion off the top of my head...but it's certainly not for a lack of enthusiasm!!!
(Quoting Message by ProwlerCub from Saturday, September 05, 2009 6:56:33 AM)
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I was watching That Metal Show the other day and they had a special from the Download Festival. It seemed to me that there seems to be a greater outlet for metal bands overseas than there is in the US. I am not talking about the intensity of the fans but a greater chance for exposure of bands overseas. Why is it that some bands can play larger venues overseas but come to the US and have to play clubs (if they even tour the US at all)? Thoughts? Comments?
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Lol, no... There are plenty of highways, and visas arent a problem either. Whole border control thing has become very relaxed since the Cold war ended, and in the case of European union, there isnt any of it altogether.
The problem is just that they do so few shows, that if there isnt one in your town, the next town may be hours of driving away. Thats from the fans perspective, anyway. Traveling for the band is a lot easier, I imagine, with all those cheap airlines.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Saturday, September 05, 2009 11:02:13 AM)| | | spapad wrote: | | Strat has some valid points Ron. Travel in europe is not the easiest thing to do, there are visas involved, and the roads are terrible in alot of places as they still follow the contour of the land and that means while you drive up a mountain forever your not really making much headway, or you drive along a coastline hugging every turn in and out lots of mileage with very little progress. I would be like befor the interstates where built in the US, long winding roads that take you forever to get somewhere, and then imagine having to show visa's at each state line. Big pain in the ass. For instance, why does Euro Disney do so poorly, because travel is such a pain to get there, Why not just hop a plane to Florida and you only need one visa to do it!
So, it's not easy to move about europe in vast milage.
The reason the bands play so many venues here is the area of the US is so vast, and in general most americans are too lazy to put forth too much mileage to go see a show. They may do it for a vacation but many of them simply wouldn't bother for a show.
Ron you may have had that many accessbile shows, but the closest show to me, would have been a five and a half hour trip, that was the CLOSEST, which I didn't go to, but I went to the third closest to me which was a 7 and half hour trip, close to 400 miles, if not more. The second closest would have been Pittsburgh at six and a half hours. So not everyone had shows that close to them.
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Hmm... If Im not much mistaken, the nearest they came to me on this tour is Vienna... WHich is about 3 or 4 hours drive away... On an empty road, with no stops, with favourable wind. That is if they dont reschedule the shows in Zagreb and Belgrade, which they still havent, and I dont know what they are waiting for.
IDK, they certainly have a packed schedule on the American tour, maybe thats why they find it hard to do more shows elsewhere. IDK, we would have to ask them. Or wheover organises those shows for them.
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Hey Strat...To better illustrate my thinking which has been known to be flawed lol here's what I mean...
My home to...
...downtown Chicago 18 miles
...Milwaukee 103 miles
...Indianapolis 143 miles
...Detroit 236 miles
...Cleveland 281 miles
...St. Louis 423 miles
If I'm not mistaken, Priest played all of the cities...if they wer're to only play 1 maybe 2 of these cities, there wouldn't have been an empty seat in the house and could have probably played (a) bigger venue(s). Priest are loyal to their core group of fans and they'll play anywhere here (and we thank them for it) but I think they pay a price for it as well.
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IDK about that... Theres about twice as many people living in Europe than in whole of north America. They could double the number of European shows, and still play in full venues. What is true, I guess, is that all the borders and stuff makes it more time consuming and expensive to travel, thats why it makes it difficult when they skip enitre countries on tours.
IDK, I usualy envy you guys in the states... It seems like whenever someone goes on tour there, they play everywhere where there are at least ten fans.
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I think it's because of the size of the States. Overseas you've got smaller countries grouped together, like our New England states, therefore there's no need to play a 30 show tour in say Europe...a couple of shows will do it and the fans flock because there's so few. Using where I live as an example, I could have caught Priest at any one of 6 of their shows all within 500 miles **Chicago, Milwaukee, St. Louis, Indianaplois, Detroit or Cleveland**
That being said, we don't have a Download Festival type event. At one time we had the US Festival, which if continued it could have rivaled a Download, but that never happened. Just an opinion off the top of my head...but it's certainly not for a lack of enthusiasm!!!
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I was watching That Metal Show the other day and they had a special from the Download Festival. It seemed to me that there seems to be a greater outlet for metal bands overseas than there is in the US. I am not talking about the intensity of the fans but a greater chance for exposure of bands overseas. Why is it that some bands can play larger venues overseas but come to the US and have to play clubs (if they even tour the US at all)? Thoughts? Comments?
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| [ron h] Saturday, September 05, 2009 11:38:21 AM | |
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Euro Disney doesn't do well because Europe has real castles and we don't!!
Visa issues aren't that big of a deal because management takes care of a lot of that stuff in advance. As far as the actual travel, they could fly a charter or helicopter in if it was that bad. But all that does is reinforce why I think they play fewer shows in larger venues there (and Europe was just 1 example). How many shows did Priest play in Canada?? One, maybe two? Austrailia?
Remember, I'm just a fan giving an opinion here and don't know for sure one way or the other...an educated guess if you will. The real reason(s) may have nothing at all to do with any of what's been mentioned here, but this topic does make me think...damn you Prowler!!!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Saturday, September 05, 2009 11:02:13 AM)| | | spapad wrote: | | Strat has some valid points Ron. Travel in europe is not the easiest thing to do, there are visas involved, and the roads are terrible in alot of places as they still follow the contour of the land and that means while you drive up a mountain forever your not really making much headway, or you drive along a coastline hugging every turn in and out lots of mileage with very little progress. I would be like befor the interstates where built in the US, long winding roads that take you forever to get somewhere, and then imagine having to show visa's at each state line. Big pain in the ass. For instance, why does Euro Disney do so poorly, because travel is such a pain to get there, Why not just hop a plane to Florida and you only need one visa to do it!
So, it's not easy to move about europe in vast milage.
The reason the bands play so many venues here is the area of the US is so vast, and in general most americans are too lazy to put forth too much mileage to go see a show. They may do it for a vacation but many of them simply wouldn't bother for a show.
Ron you may have had that many accessbile shows, but the closest show to me, would have been a five and a half hour trip, that was the CLOSEST, which I didn't go to, but I went to the third closest to me which was a 7 and half hour trip, close to 400 miles, if not more. The second closest would have been Pittsburgh at six and a half hours. So not everyone had shows that close to them.
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Hmm... If Im not much mistaken, the nearest they came to me on this tour is Vienna... WHich is about 3 or 4 hours drive away... On an empty road, with no stops, with favourable wind. That is if they dont reschedule the shows in Zagreb and Belgrade, which they still havent, and I dont know what they are waiting for.
IDK, they certainly have a packed schedule on the American tour, maybe thats why they find it hard to do more shows elsewhere. IDK, we would have to ask them. Or wheover organises those shows for them.
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Hey Strat...To better illustrate my thinking which has been known to be flawed lol here's what I mean...
My home to...
...downtown Chicago 18 miles
...Milwaukee 103 miles
...Indianapolis 143 miles
...Detroit 236 miles
...Cleveland 281 miles
...St. Louis 423 miles
If I'm not mistaken, Priest played all of the cities...if they wer're to only play 1 maybe 2 of these cities, there wouldn't have been an empty seat in the house and could have probably played (a) bigger venue(s). Priest are loyal to their core group of fans and they'll play anywhere here (and we thank them for it) but I think they pay a price for it as well.
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IDK about that... Theres about twice as many people living in Europe than in whole of north America. They could double the number of European shows, and still play in full venues. What is true, I guess, is that all the borders and stuff makes it more time consuming and expensive to travel, thats why it makes it difficult when they skip enitre countries on tours.
IDK, I usualy envy you guys in the states... It seems like whenever someone goes on tour there, they play everywhere where there are at least ten fans.
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I think it's because of the size of the States. Overseas you've got smaller countries grouped together, like our New England states, therefore there's no need to play a 30 show tour in say Europe...a couple of shows will do it and the fans flock because there's so few. Using where I live as an example, I could have caught Priest at any one of 6 of their shows all within 500 miles **Chicago, Milwaukee, St. Louis, Indianaplois, Detroit or Cleveland**
That being said, we don't have a Download Festival type event. At one time we had the US Festival, which if continued it could have rivaled a Download, but that never happened. Just an opinion off the top of my head...but it's certainly not for a lack of enthusiasm!!!
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Strat has some valid points Ron. Travel in europe is not the easiest thing to do, there are visas involved, and the roads are terrible in alot of places as they still follow the contour of the land and that means while you drive up a mountain forever your not really making much headway, or you drive along a coastline hugging every turn in and out lots of mileage with very little progress. I would be like befor the interstates where built in the US, long winding roads that take you forever to get somewhere, and then imagine having to show visa's at each state line. Big pain in the ass. For instance, why does Euro Disney do so poorly, because travel is such a pain to get there, Why not just hop a plane to Florida and you only need one visa to do it!
So, it's not easy to move about europe in vast milage.
The reason the bands play so many venues here is the area of the US is so vast, and in general most americans are too lazy to put forth too much mileage to go see a show. They may do it for a vacation but many of them simply wouldn't bother for a show.
Ron you may have had that many accessbile shows, but the closest show to me, would have been a five and a half hour trip, that was the CLOSEST, which I didn't go to, but I went to the third closest to me which was a 7 and half hour trip, close to 400 miles, if not more. The second closest would have been Pittsburgh at six and a half hours. So not everyone had shows that close to them.
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Hmm... If Im not much mistaken, the nearest they came to me on this tour is Vienna... WHich is about 3 or 4 hours drive away... On an empty road, with no stops, with favourable wind. That is if they dont reschedule the shows in Zagreb and Belgrade, which they still havent, and I dont know what they are waiting for.
IDK, they certainly have a packed schedule on the American tour, maybe thats why they find it hard to do more shows elsewhere. IDK, we would have to ask them. Or wheover organises those shows for them.
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Hey Strat...To better illustrate my thinking which has been known to be flawed lol here's what I mean...
My home to...
...downtown Chicago 18 miles
...Milwaukee 103 miles
...Indianapolis 143 miles
...Detroit 236 miles
...Cleveland 281 miles
...St. Louis 423 miles
If I'm not mistaken, Priest played all of the cities...if they wer're to only play 1 maybe 2 of these cities, there wouldn't have been an empty seat in the house and could have probably played (a) bigger venue(s). Priest are loyal to their core group of fans and they'll play anywhere here (and we thank them for it) but I think they pay a price for it as well.
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IDK about that... Theres about twice as many people living in Europe than in whole of north America. They could double the number of European shows, and still play in full venues. What is true, I guess, is that all the borders and stuff makes it more time consuming and expensive to travel, thats why it makes it difficult when they skip enitre countries on tours.
IDK, I usualy envy you guys in the states... It seems like whenever someone goes on tour there, they play everywhere where there are at least ten fans.
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I think it's because of the size of the States. Overseas you've got smaller countries grouped together, like our New England states, therefore there's no need to play a 30 show tour in say Europe...a couple of shows will do it and the fans flock because there's so few. Using where I live as an example, I could have caught Priest at any one of 6 of their shows all within 500 miles **Chicago, Milwaukee, St. Louis, Indianaplois, Detroit or Cleveland**
That being said, we don't have a Download Festival type event. At one time we had the US Festival, which if continued it could have rivaled a Download, but that never happened. Just an opinion off the top of my head...but it's certainly not for a lack of enthusiasm!!!
(Quoting Message by ProwlerCub from Saturday, September 05, 2009 6:56:33 AM)
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I was watching That Metal Show the other day and they had a special from the Download Festival. It seemed to me that there seems to be a greater outlet for metal bands overseas than there is in the US. I am not talking about the intensity of the fans but a greater chance for exposure of bands overseas. Why is it that some bands can play larger venues overseas but come to the US and have to play clubs (if they even tour the US at all)? Thoughts? Comments?
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Hmm... If Im not much mistaken, the nearest they came to me on this tour is Vienna... WHich is about 3 or 4 hours drive away... On an empty road, with no stops, with favourable wind. That is if they dont reschedule the shows in Zagreb and Belgrade, which they still havent, and I dont know what they are waiting for.
IDK, they certainly have a packed schedule on the American tour, maybe thats why they find it hard to do more shows elsewhere. IDK, we would have to ask them. Or wheover organises those shows for them.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by ron h from Saturday, September 05, 2009 10:14:25 AM)| | | ron h wrote: | | Hey Strat...To better illustrate my thinking which has been known to be flawed lol here's what I mean...
My home to...
...downtown Chicago 18 miles
...Milwaukee 103 miles
...Indianapolis 143 miles
...Detroit 236 miles
...Cleveland 281 miles
...St. Louis 423 miles
If I'm not mistaken, Priest played all of the cities...if they wer're to only play 1 maybe 2 of these cities, there wouldn't have been an empty seat in the house and could have probably played (a) bigger venue(s). Priest are loyal to their core group of fans and they'll play anywhere here (and we thank them for it) but I think they pay a price for it as well.
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | IDK about that... Theres about twice as many people living in Europe than in whole of north America. They could double the number of European shows, and still play in full venues. What is true, I guess, is that all the borders and stuff makes it more time consuming and expensive to travel, thats why it makes it difficult when they skip enitre countries on tours.
IDK, I usualy envy you guys in the states... It seems like whenever someone goes on tour there, they play everywhere where there are at least ten fans.
| | | ron h wrote: | | I think it's because of the size of the States. Overseas you've got smaller countries grouped together, like our New England states, therefore there's no need to play a 30 show tour in say Europe...a couple of shows will do it and the fans flock because there's so few. Using where I live as an example, I could have caught Priest at any one of 6 of their shows all within 500 miles **Chicago, Milwaukee, St. Louis, Indianaplois, Detroit or Cleveland**
That being said, we don't have a Download Festival type event. At one time we had the US Festival, which if continued it could have rivaled a Download, but that never happened. Just an opinion off the top of my head...but it's certainly not for a lack of enthusiasm!!!
(Quoting Message by ProwlerCub from Saturday, September 05, 2009 6:56:33 AM)
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I was watching That Metal Show the other day and they had a special from the Download Festival. It seemed to me that there seems to be a greater outlet for metal bands overseas than there is in the US. I am not talking about the intensity of the fans but a greater chance for exposure of bands overseas. Why is it that some bands can play larger venues overseas but come to the US and have to play clubs (if they even tour the US at all)? Thoughts? Comments?
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| [ron h] Saturday, September 05, 2009 10:32:57 AM | |
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Also...it's not how many people there are here or there, it's how many Metal fans there are. Priest might sell out Detroit and Cleveland and play to half filled Tampa and Nashville...logistics play a huge part as we are scattered throughout where that's not necessarily the case there...
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by _strat_ from Saturday, September 05, 2009 9:47:39 AM)| | | _strat_ wrote: | | IDK about that... Theres about twice as many people living in Europe than in whole of north America. They could double the number of European shows, and still play in full venues. What is true, I guess, is that all the borders and stuff makes it more time consuming and expensive to travel, thats why it makes it difficult when they skip enitre countries on tours.
IDK, I usualy envy you guys in the states... It seems like whenever someone goes on tour there, they play everywhere where there are at least ten fans.
| | | ron h wrote: | | I think it's because of the size of the States. Overseas you've got smaller countries grouped together, like our New England states, therefore there's no need to play a 30 show tour in say Europe...a couple of shows will do it and the fans flock because there's so few. Using where I live as an example, I could have caught Priest at any one of 6 of their shows all within 500 miles **Chicago, Milwaukee, St. Louis, Indianaplois, Detroit or Cleveland**
That being said, we don't have a Download Festival type event. At one time we had the US Festival, which if continued it could have rivaled a Download, but that never happened. Just an opinion off the top of my head...but it's certainly not for a lack of enthusiasm!!!
(Quoting Message by ProwlerCub from Saturday, September 05, 2009 6:56:33 AM)
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I was watching That Metal Show the other day and they had a special from the Download Festival. It seemed to me that there seems to be a greater outlet for metal bands overseas than there is in the US. I am not talking about the intensity of the fans but a greater chance for exposure of bands overseas. Why is it that some bands can play larger venues overseas but come to the US and have to play clubs (if they even tour the US at all)? Thoughts? Comments?
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| [ron h] Saturday, September 05, 2009 10:14:25 AM | |
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Hey Strat...To better illustrate my thinking which has been known to be flawed lol here's what I mean...
My home to...
...downtown Chicago 18 miles
...Milwaukee 103 miles
...Indianapolis 143 miles
...Detroit 236 miles
...Cleveland 281 miles
...St. Louis 423 miles
If I'm not mistaken, Priest played all of the cities...if they wer're to only play 1 maybe 2 of these cities, there wouldn't have been an empty seat in the house and could have probably played (a) bigger venue(s). Priest are loyal to their core group of fans and they'll play anywhere here (and we thank them for it) but I think they pay a price for it as well.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by _strat_ from Saturday, September 05, 2009 9:47:39 AM)| | | _strat_ wrote: | | IDK about that... Theres about twice as many people living in Europe than in whole of north America. They could double the number of European shows, and still play in full venues. What is true, I guess, is that all the borders and stuff makes it more time consuming and expensive to travel, thats why it makes it difficult when they skip enitre countries on tours.
IDK, I usualy envy you guys in the states... It seems like whenever someone goes on tour there, they play everywhere where there are at least ten fans.
| | | ron h wrote: | | I think it's because of the size of the States. Overseas you've got smaller countries grouped together, like our New England states, therefore there's no need to play a 30 show tour in say Europe...a couple of shows will do it and the fans flock because there's so few. Using where I live as an example, I could have caught Priest at any one of 6 of their shows all within 500 miles **Chicago, Milwaukee, St. Louis, Indianaplois, Detroit or Cleveland**
That being said, we don't have a Download Festival type event. At one time we had the US Festival, which if continued it could have rivaled a Download, but that never happened. Just an opinion off the top of my head...but it's certainly not for a lack of enthusiasm!!!
(Quoting Message by ProwlerCub from Saturday, September 05, 2009 6:56:33 AM)
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I was watching That Metal Show the other day and they had a special from the Download Festival. It seemed to me that there seems to be a greater outlet for metal bands overseas than there is in the US. I am not talking about the intensity of the fans but a greater chance for exposure of bands overseas. Why is it that some bands can play larger venues overseas but come to the US and have to play clubs (if they even tour the US at all)? Thoughts? Comments?
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| [ron h] Saturday, September 05, 2009 9:55:43 AM | |
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There's no doubt in my mind that money plays a huge role in it. As much as I love Priest and will bang my head to the end with them, where popularity and promotion goes these bands of yore get nowhere near as much as say a band like Coldplay does now and I couldn't tell you one song of theirs!! lol
Music of today does not inspire me at all. There are a few exceptions, but nothing that really stands head and shoulders above the rest. What's in today is forgotten tomorrow...no such thing as loyalty anymore!! That's a sad testement to todays lables and unfortunate for the youth of today...but do they really care?? That's why I love being 43 and was around in the 70's and 80's and caught most all of it as it happend!!!!
I remember when MTV aired the Memphis Priest show among many others April Wine, REO Speedwagon, Billy Squire to name a few...Vh1 Classic does a good job airing and promoting Hard Rock and Classic Metal and MTV2 still airs Headbangers Ball, but it's not like back in 80's early 90's...but before Vh1 Classic came around, there wasn't much on the airwaves for us as MTV went into reality shows and game shows and all the other stuff they do.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by ProwlerCub from Saturday, September 05, 2009 8:14:10 AM)| | | ProwlerCub wrote: | | Good point Ron. Could it also be possible that the US focuses on the money-making trends instead of longevity. Remember when MTV and VH1 used to play videos instead of shows. Now we have VH1 Classic and MTV2 that are playing the videos. It seems to me that in the states music is treated as disposable these days. |
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IDK about that... Theres about twice as many people living in Europe than in whole of north America. They could double the number of European shows, and still play in full venues. What is true, I guess, is that all the borders and stuff makes it more time consuming and expensive to travel, thats why it makes it difficult when they skip enitre countries on tours.
IDK, I usualy envy you guys in the states... It seems like whenever someone goes on tour there, they play everywhere where there are at least ten fans.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by ron h from Saturday, September 05, 2009 7:57:48 AM)| | | ron h wrote: | | I think it's because of the size of the States. Overseas you've got smaller countries grouped together, like our New England states, therefore there's no need to play a 30 show tour in say Europe...a couple of shows will do it and the fans flock because there's so few. Using where I live as an example, I could have caught Priest at any one of 6 of their shows all within 500 miles **Chicago, Milwaukee, St. Louis, Indianaplois, Detroit or Cleveland**
That being said, we don't have a Download Festival type event. At one time we had the US Festival, which if continued it could have rivaled a Download, but that never happened. Just an opinion off the top of my head...but it's certainly not for a lack of enthusiasm!!!
(Quoting Message by ProwlerCub from Saturday, September 05, 2009 6:56:33 AM)
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I was watching That Metal Show the other day and they had a special from the Download Festival. It seemed to me that there seems to be a greater outlet for metal bands overseas than there is in the US. I am not talking about the intensity of the fans but a greater chance for exposure of bands overseas. Why is it that some bands can play larger venues overseas but come to the US and have to play clubs (if they even tour the US at all)? Thoughts? Comments?
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Good point Ron. Could it also be possible that the US focuses on the money-making trends instead of longevity. Remember when MTV and VH1 used to play videos instead of shows. Now we have VH1 Classic and MTV2 that are playing the videos. It seems to me that in the states music is treated as disposable these days. |
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I think it's because of the size of the States. Overseas you've got smaller countries grouped together, like our New England states, therefore there's no need to play a 30 show tour in say Europe...a couple of shows will do it and the fans flock because there's so few. Using where I live as an example, I could have caught Priest at any one of 6 of their shows all within 500 miles **Chicago, Milwaukee, St. Louis, Indianaplois, Detroit or Cleveland**
That being said, we don't have a Download Festival type event. At one time we had the US Festival, which if continued it could have rivaled a Download, but that never happened. Just an opinion off the top of my head...but it's certainly not for a lack of enthusiasm!!!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by ProwlerCub from Saturday, September 05, 2009 6:56:33 AM)
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I was watching That Metal Show the other day and they had a special from the Download Festival. It seemed to me that there seems to be a greater outlet for metal bands overseas than there is in the US. I am not talking about the intensity of the fans but a greater chance for exposure of bands overseas. Why is it that some bands can play larger venues overseas but come to the US and have to play clubs (if they even tour the US at all)? Thoughts? Comments?
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I was watching That Metal Show the other day and they had a special from the Download Festival. It seemed to me that there seems to be a greater outlet for metal bands overseas than there is in the US. I am not talking about the intensity of the fans but a greater chance for exposure of bands overseas. Why is it that some bands can play larger venues overseas but come to the US and have to play clubs (if they even tour the US at all)? Thoughts? Comments? |
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