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Natural for a person who has one leg significantly shorter than the other. Ok so the ladies and JD don't think Starbreaker is a gay song, I still do. No-one's convinced me otherwise. Lets leave it at that and talk about the saucy naked chick wearing nothing but heels.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Saturday, March 12, 2011 6:27:40 PM)| |  | spapad wrote: | | NO, I bet the artist was left to his own devices, and that figure coming up the hill looks very natural.
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | No but I bet he was told to make sure at least one character wasn't straight.
| | | spapad wrote: | | Perspective, and it's supposed to look like he's leaning in towards her as he approaches. You really don't think the artist for this jacket was told to make a big gay to do over nothing do you? Saw your last post, and yes the joke is on us! LOL 
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | It's a joke, relax. However If you want to get into body mechanics I think the angle he's on with his legs as close together as they are and his arms by his sides, he would fall over.
| | | spapad wrote: | | What you are looking at is body mechanics. The way a person would climb a rocky outcrop. He's standing there on uneven ground. In my opinion your are way over reaching.
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | Yeah, he's not straight. He's at an angle. Look at it.
| | | spapad wrote: | | You crack me up! Now a sillouet is "not straight", WTF are you eating these days? Peyote?
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | Yeah those songs are all great and save the album but the rest of it is pretty rubbish. Check out the dark figure on the album cover, he's not straight.
| | | Becks wrote: | | LOL you' ve certainly done some sleuthing with the lyrics JJ!!! It's good to have a debate about what we think songs are about etc.
I don't think I've actually answered the question about Priests most underrated album. In some respects I think Point of Entry is underrated, people think that album is full of Don't Go type songs (incidentally I like that song, it makes me laugh hehe) but it has some great songs on it, Heading out to the Highway, Solar Angels, Desert Plains etc. So in a way it is terribly underrated.
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | I think the Starbreaker is a gay guy who is opening up the gay lifestyle to guys who are confused about their sexuality. He does this by exposing them to a world that is vastly different to the one they are used to and one which will ultimately bring them happiness, should they decide to go his way. All the references to cruising, hand holding, stealing hearts and getting high aside that's basically what it's about. Whether or not you agree I'm glad that comment sparked some debate.
As for the album cover I'm surprised that the dark figure hasn't fallen over leaning on that angle and I love how the female figure at the front appears to be naked apart from her high heels. |
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| [J.D. DIAMOND] Sunday, March 13, 2011 8:01:49 PM | |
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Here is the Priest shirt I want the most but could never find it fuck!
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| [J.D. DIAMOND] Sunday, March 13, 2011 7:56:59 PM | |
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Ha ha yeah I remember that one spa! lol!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Sunday, March 13, 2011 7:33:17 PM)| | | spapad wrote: | | The "Eat me Alive" song, while not heard that year was all well on the back of JP tour shirts. A picture of a leather clad woman in spike heels with her wrists handcuffed to her ankles. That was the back of my tourshirt. My mother was mortified! LMAO!!!
| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | I agree Guitardude,just enjoy the songs but I'm courious if that "tasnam1" , jimmy james or anybody for that matter can name these "tons" or "loads" of songs/lyrics that has a slant towards the homosexual side,they can't do it as they will only be able to come up with 3 or 4 and not tons or loads,its fucking ridiculous.
Even the song lyrics 'Eat Me Alive" were written by Tipton/Downing/Halford while they were all 3 drunk off thier asses one night in 83' and the song was originally going to be called "Bad Girls In Leather" but they thought that name was too tame so they changed it to Eat Me Alive which could be taken either heterosexual or homosexual but it doesn't "slant" towards "homosexuality".
People read way too much into this shit,I couldn't find the article/interview but Halford already mentioned that the lyrics are not "gay" they can be taken either way the listener wants to perceive it. Like I said,Id like a list of these fucking "tons" of songs.....
| | | guitardude wrote: | | Ok, what I had in mind was Delivering the Goods, always been a favorite as well as the title track(american version)
Now, as for over tones or under tones, what the hell ever, just listen to the song a enjoy it! Jeez man!
| | | spapad wrote: | | Pick one GD! I know I'd love to hear a bunch of that Record. That is why I have yet to put in a one song off each album request, probably never will. I just hope some rare ones creep in.
| | | guitardude wrote: | | I agree with SPA, but ...
Back to the subject matter of this thread
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| [spapad] Sunday, March 13, 2011 7:33:17 PM | |
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The "Eat me Alive" song, while not heard that year was all well on the back of JP tour shirts. A picture of a leather clad woman in spike heels with her wrists handcuffed to her ankles. That was the back of my tourshirt. My mother was mortified! LMAO!!!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Sunday, March 13, 2011 7:23:05 PM)| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | I agree Guitardude,just enjoy the songs but I'm courious if that "tasnam1" , jimmy james or anybody for that matter can name these "tons" or "loads" of songs/lyrics that has a slant towards the homosexual side,they can't do it as they will only be able to come up with 3 or 4 and not tons or loads,its fucking ridiculous.
Even the song lyrics 'Eat Me Alive" were written by Tipton/Downing/Halford while they were all 3 drunk off thier asses one night in 83' and the song was originally going to be called "Bad Girls In Leather" but they thought that name was too tame so they changed it to Eat Me Alive which could be taken either heterosexual or homosexual but it doesn't "slant" towards "homosexuality".
People read way too much into this shit,I couldn't find the article/interview but Halford already mentioned that the lyrics are not "gay" they can be taken either way the listener wants to perceive it. Like I said,Id like a list of these fucking "tons" of songs.....
| | | guitardude wrote: | | Ok, what I had in mind was Delivering the Goods, always been a favorite as well as the title track(american version)
Now, as for over tones or under tones, what the hell ever, just listen to the song a enjoy it! Jeez man!
| | | spapad wrote: | | Pick one GD! I know I'd love to hear a bunch of that Record. That is why I have yet to put in a one song off each album request, probably never will. I just hope some rare ones creep in.
| | | guitardude wrote: | | I agree with SPA, but ...
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| [J.D. DIAMOND] Sunday, March 13, 2011 7:23:05 PM | |
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I agree Guitardude,just enjoy the songs but I'm courious if that "tasnam1" , jimmy james or anybody for that matter can name these "tons" or "loads" of songs/lyrics that has a slant towards the homosexual side,they can't do it as they will only be able to come up with 3 or 4 and not tons or loads,its fucking ridiculous.
Even the song lyrics 'Eat Me Alive" were written by Tipton/Downing/Halford while they were all 3 drunk off thier asses one night in 83' and the song was originally going to be called "Bad Girls In Leather" but they thought that name was too tame so they changed it to Eat Me Alive which could be taken either heterosexual or homosexual but it doesn't "slant" towards "homosexuality".
People read way too much into this shit,I couldn't find the article/interview but Halford already mentioned that the lyrics are not "gay" they can be taken either way the listener wants to perceive it. Like I said,Id like a list of these fucking "tons" of songs.....
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guitardude from Sunday, March 13, 2011 7:10:40 PM)| | | guitardude wrote: | | Ok, what I had in mind was Delivering the Goods, always been a favorite as well as the title track(american version)
Now, as for over tones or under tones, what the hell ever, just listen to the song a enjoy it! Jeez man!
| | | spapad wrote: | | Pick one GD! I know I'd love to hear a bunch of that Record. That is why I have yet to put in a one song off each album request, probably never will. I just hope some rare ones creep in.
| | | guitardude wrote: | | I agree with SPA, but ...
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Hell Bent for Leather I think is the most under rated album in the catalog, for me it has many songs that are so strong and I hope to hear live next time around! |
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| [spapad] Sunday, March 13, 2011 7:19:31 PM | |
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I'd love to hear that as well as Hell Bent for Leather, and also Killing Machine..............Obviously why I don't put forth a set list with only one song off each. Too hard to do!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guitardude from Sunday, March 13, 2011 7:10:40 PM)| | | guitardude wrote: | | Ok, what I had in mind was Delivering the Goods, always been a favorite as well as the title track(american version)
Now, as for over tones or under tones, what the hell ever, just listen to the song a enjoy it! Jeez man!
| | | spapad wrote: | | Pick one GD! I know I'd love to hear a bunch of that Record. That is why I have yet to put in a one song off each album request, probably never will. I just hope some rare ones creep in.
| | | guitardude wrote: | | I agree with SPA, but ...
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Hell Bent for Leather I think is the most under rated album in the catalog, for me it has many songs that are so strong and I hope to hear live next time around! |
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| [guitardude] Sunday, March 13, 2011 7:10:40 PM | |
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Ok, what I had in mind was Delivering the Goods, always been a favorite as well as the title track(american version)
Now, as for over tones or under tones, what the hell ever, just listen to the song a enjoy it! Jeez man!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Saturday, March 12, 2011 6:44:42 PM)| | | spapad wrote: | | Pick one GD! I know I'd love to hear a bunch of that Record. That is why I have yet to put in a one song off each album request, probably never will. I just hope some rare ones creep in.
| | | guitardude wrote: | | I agree with SPA, but ...
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Hell Bent for Leather I think is the most under rated album in the catalog, for me it has many songs that are so strong and I hope to hear live next time around! |
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| [Gobberz] Sunday, March 13, 2011 1:16:34 PM | |
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| Probably Defenders of the Faith. It has such fantastic song like Freewheel Burning, Jawbreaker, Love Bites and of course The Sentinel. |
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| [Vaillant 3.0] Sunday, March 13, 2011 3:30:06 AM | |
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A little late for this discussion, I know, but I always thought of those two figures as sinners waiting for that door to open (IS it a door?). What could it contain? Maybe the paradise that the Starbreaker promised? Maybe it's something sinister? Maybe they both got screwed by that one "raw deal"? The world may never know. It's definitely a much gloomier album cover than the SWOD one.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Friday, March 11, 2011 11:16:14 PM)| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | 
I always thought Starbreaker was a Sci-Fi idea too,like a mystical being character or something of the sort....that shadow-shape-person on the left of the album I always thought was either the Starbreaker or the Sinner when I was 11 years old in 1981 when I bought the LP ha!
| | | spapad wrote: | | It's about fate interceding told in a grand way in my opinion. I love the lyrics, and no doubt they did feel like it only comes once a lifetime.
| | | Becks wrote: | | I completely forgot he is such a big sci fi fan, and the band making it to the top thing is something that never crossed my mind lol. I knew it was about a sci fi character, as Rob tends to write about often. No homosexual undertones or anything there lol.
| | | spapad wrote: | | I thought it was evident. Just makes sense from the place in time he wrote it from.
| | | Becks wrote: | | That makes sense Spa!
| | | spapad wrote: | | I actually saw Starbreaker as a cross between science fiction and also the bullshit bands have to go thorough to hope to be the "chosen few" .
(Quoting Message by HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS from Friday, March 11, 2011 9:46:40 PM)
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Not to mention the fact that Rob is really into Science Fiction. That's what I get from the song too, it's science fiction about a "savior" that will take us to paradise (or looking at it now, I suppose it could be about drugs?). And I agree completely Becks, just because Rob is gay doesn't mean every song he writes has homosexual undertones..... I'm really sick of fans thinking every song is gay now that Rob came out. Before no one ever thought they were, but now some people see it in every song. And even if it is, WHO CARES???
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Bear in mind I am a very literal person, I don't read undertones very well, but in saying that I find it very hard on reading the lyrics to pick up any gay undertone. Just cos Rob is gay doesn't mean every crazy Priest song is about gay stuff LOL.
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| [J.D. DIAMOND] Sunday, March 13, 2011 3:03:12 AM | |
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Name "tons" of these songs with the "SLANT" towards the gay preference and not the ones written for both sexes....not just 3 songs...."tons"....?
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by tasnam1 from Saturday, March 12, 2011 11:26:13 PM)
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I have to agree with JimmyJames, Priest has tons of gay "under-tones" (or is it over-tones?) in al LOT of their songs.
TRUE they are written for both sexes, but with a "slant" toward the gay preference.
Not sure about Starbreak.....though it would surprise me.
TONS of songs, just read the lyrics while listening and pretend you are Rob writing.
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It has always been my experience that people determined to find something wrong with the lyrics in a song, always do because they read WAAAAAAY TOO MUCH into things, or take it completely out of context! People were hell bent on making Priest a "satanic" band way back when and the shit they told me the lyrics meant was absolutely hysterical! You WANT the song to be gay because Rob is gay and that's why you see it that way.
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I think the Starbreaker is a gay guy who is opening up the gay lifestyle to guys who are confused about their sexuality. He does this by exposing them to a world that is vastly different to the one they are used to and one which will ultimately bring them happiness, should they decide to go his way. All the references to cruising, hand holding, stealing hearts and getting high aside that's basically what it's about. Whether or not you agree I'm glad that comment sparked some debate.
As for the album cover I'm surprised that the dark figure hasn't fallen over leaning on that angle and I love how the female figure at the front appears to be naked apart from her high heels. |
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I have to agree with JimmyJames, Priest has tons of gay "under-tones" (or is it over-tones?) in al LOT of their songs.
TRUE they are written for both sexes, but with a "slant" toward the gay preference.
Not sure about Starbreak.....though it would surprise me.
TONS of songs, just read the lyrics while listening and pretend you are Rob writing.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Saturday, March 12, 2011 5:14:06 PM)| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | I don't want it to be gay, I just think it is. Priest have loads of gay songs, why not this one?
| | | HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote: | | It has always been my experience that people determined to find something wrong with the lyrics in a song, always do because they read WAAAAAAY TOO MUCH into things, or take it completely out of context! People were hell bent on making Priest a "satanic" band way back when and the shit they told me the lyrics meant was absolutely hysterical! You WANT the song to be gay because Rob is gay and that's why you see it that way.
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | I think the Starbreaker is a gay guy who is opening up the gay lifestyle to guys who are confused about their sexuality. He does this by exposing them to a world that is vastly different to the one they are used to and one which will ultimately bring them happiness, should they decide to go his way. All the references to cruising, hand holding, stealing hearts and getting high aside that's basically what it's about. Whether or not you agree I'm glad that comment sparked some debate.
As for the album cover I'm surprised that the dark figure hasn't fallen over leaning on that angle and I love how the female figure at the front appears to be naked apart from her high heels. |
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| [Budred] Saturday, March 12, 2011 8:11:38 PM | |
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They eat the "buttons" that grow on the cactus.
It's supposed to be like mescaline, maybe stronger.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Saturday, March 12, 2011 6:19:01 PM)| | | spapad wrote: | | It's a cactus found in the midwest, to Mexico areas. When brewed, or whatever the hell they do to it, it is a very potent hallucinagin.
| | | Becks wrote: | | Ok I have to ask, what's peyote? LOL!
| | | spapad wrote: | | You crack me up! Now a sillouet is "not straight", WTF are you eating these days? Peyote?
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | Yeah those songs are all great and save the album but the rest of it is pretty rubbish. Check out the dark figure on the album cover, he's not straight.
| | | Becks wrote: | | LOL you' ve certainly done some sleuthing with the lyrics JJ!!! It's good to have a debate about what we think songs are about etc.
I don't think I've actually answered the question about Priests most underrated album. In some respects I think Point of Entry is underrated, people think that album is full of Don't Go type songs (incidentally I like that song, it makes me laugh hehe) but it has some great songs on it, Heading out to the Highway, Solar Angels, Desert Plains etc. So in a way it is terribly underrated.
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | I think the Starbreaker is a gay guy who is opening up the gay lifestyle to guys who are confused about their sexuality. He does this by exposing them to a world that is vastly different to the one they are used to and one which will ultimately bring them happiness, should they decide to go his way. All the references to cruising, hand holding, stealing hearts and getting high aside that's basically what it's about. Whether or not you agree I'm glad that comment sparked some debate.
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| [spapad] Saturday, March 12, 2011 6:44:42 PM | |
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Pick one GD! I know I'd love to hear a bunch of that Record. That is why I have yet to put in a one song off each album request, probably never will. I just hope some rare ones creep in.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guitardude from Saturday, March 12, 2011 6:34:50 PM)| | | guitardude wrote: | | I agree with SPA, but ...
Back to the subject matter of this thread
Hell Bent for Leather I think is the most under rated album in the catalog, for me it has many songs that are so strong and I hope to hear live next time around! |
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| [guitardude] Saturday, March 12, 2011 6:34:50 PM | |
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I agree with SPA, but ...
Back to the subject matter of this thread
Hell Bent for Leather I think is the most under rated album in the catalog, for me it has many songs that are so strong and I hope to hear live next time around! |
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I agree Becks. Actually when I found out Jawbreaker was what it was, I was surprised as it works as a song without that angle. I do think almost all of Rob's lyrics are multilayered, and can work for anyone. That is what makes a classic song.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Becks from Saturday, March 12, 2011 6:24:44 PM)| | | Becks wrote: | | I agree, I find any of the songs Priest have about love etc to be rather androgenous, as in it applies to any type of relationship.
| | | HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote: | | No, they don't have "loads" of gay songs! WTF? Rob has always kept the lyrics neutral, so that they apply to gay or straight couples. Just because he is gay and he writes about relationships, that doesn't make a song homosexual. Love is love and it applies to all, period.
And again, Who gives a shit if a song is "gay" or not??? I sure as hell don't!
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | I don't want it to be gay, I just think it is. Priest have loads of gay songs, why not this one?
| | | HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote: | | It has always been my experience that people determined to find something wrong with the lyrics in a song, always do because they read WAAAAAAY TOO MUCH into things, or take it completely out of context! People were hell bent on making Priest a "satanic" band way back when and the shit they told me the lyrics meant was absolutely hysterical! You WANT the song to be gay because Rob is gay and that's why you see it that way.
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | I think the Starbreaker is a gay guy who is opening up the gay lifestyle to guys who are confused about their sexuality. He does this by exposing them to a world that is vastly different to the one they are used to and one which will ultimately bring them happiness, should they decide to go his way. All the references to cruising, hand holding, stealing hearts and getting high aside that's basically what it's about. Whether or not you agree I'm glad that comment sparked some debate.
As for the album cover I'm surprised that the dark figure hasn't fallen over leaning on that angle and I love how the female figure at the front appears to be naked apart from her high heels. |
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| [spapad] Saturday, March 12, 2011 6:27:40 PM | |
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NO, I bet the artist was left to his own devices, and that figure coming up the hill looks very natural.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Saturday, March 12, 2011 5:33:20 PM)| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | No but I bet he was told to make sure at least one character wasn't straight.
| | | spapad wrote: | | Perspective, and it's supposed to look like he's leaning in towards her as he approaches. You really don't think the artist for this jacket was told to make a big gay to do over nothing do you? Saw your last post, and yes the joke is on us! LOL
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | It's a joke, relax. However If you want to get into body mechanics I think the angle he's on with his legs as close together as they are and his arms by his sides, he would fall over.
| | | spapad wrote: | | What you are looking at is body mechanics. The way a person would climb a rocky outcrop. He's standing there on uneven ground. In my opinion your are way over reaching.
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | Yeah, he's not straight. He's at an angle. Look at it.
| | | spapad wrote: | | You crack me up! Now a sillouet is "not straight", WTF are you eating these days? Peyote?
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | Yeah those songs are all great and save the album but the rest of it is pretty rubbish. Check out the dark figure on the album cover, he's not straight.
| | | Becks wrote: | | LOL you' ve certainly done some sleuthing with the lyrics JJ!!! It's good to have a debate about what we think songs are about etc.
I don't think I've actually answered the question about Priests most underrated album. In some respects I think Point of Entry is underrated, people think that album is full of Don't Go type songs (incidentally I like that song, it makes me laugh hehe) but it has some great songs on it, Heading out to the Highway, Solar Angels, Desert Plains etc. So in a way it is terribly underrated.
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As for the album cover I'm surprised that the dark figure hasn't fallen over leaning on that angle and I love how the female figure at the front appears to be naked apart from her high heels. |
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I agree, I find any of the songs Priest have about love etc to be rather androgenous, as in it applies to any type of relationship.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS from Saturday, March 12, 2011 6:18:35 PM)| | | HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote: | | No, they don't have "loads" of gay songs! WTF? Rob has always kept the lyrics neutral, so that they apply to gay or straight couples. Just because he is gay and he writes about relationships, that doesn't make a song homosexual. Love is love and it applies to all, period.
And again, Who gives a shit if a song is "gay" or not??? I sure as hell don't!
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | I don't want it to be gay, I just think it is. Priest have loads of gay songs, why not this one?
| | | HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote: | | It has always been my experience that people determined to find something wrong with the lyrics in a song, always do because they read WAAAAAAY TOO MUCH into things, or take it completely out of context! People were hell bent on making Priest a "satanic" band way back when and the shit they told me the lyrics meant was absolutely hysterical! You WANT the song to be gay because Rob is gay and that's why you see it that way.
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | I think the Starbreaker is a gay guy who is opening up the gay lifestyle to guys who are confused about their sexuality. He does this by exposing them to a world that is vastly different to the one they are used to and one which will ultimately bring them happiness, should they decide to go his way. All the references to cruising, hand holding, stealing hearts and getting high aside that's basically what it's about. Whether or not you agree I'm glad that comment sparked some debate.
As for the album cover I'm surprised that the dark figure hasn't fallen over leaning on that angle and I love how the female figure at the front appears to be naked apart from her high heels. |
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It's a cactus found in the midwest, to Mexico areas. When brewed, or whatever the hell they do to it, it is a very potent hallucinagin.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Becks from Saturday, March 12, 2011 6:09:12 PM)| | | Becks wrote: | | Ok I have to ask, what's peyote? LOL!
| | | spapad wrote: | | You crack me up! Now a sillouet is "not straight", WTF are you eating these days? Peyote?
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | Yeah those songs are all great and save the album but the rest of it is pretty rubbish. Check out the dark figure on the album cover, he's not straight.
| | | Becks wrote: | | LOL you' ve certainly done some sleuthing with the lyrics JJ!!! It's good to have a debate about what we think songs are about etc.
I don't think I've actually answered the question about Priests most underrated album. In some respects I think Point of Entry is underrated, people think that album is full of Don't Go type songs (incidentally I like that song, it makes me laugh hehe) but it has some great songs on it, Heading out to the Highway, Solar Angels, Desert Plains etc. So in a way it is terribly underrated.
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | I think the Starbreaker is a gay guy who is opening up the gay lifestyle to guys who are confused about their sexuality. He does this by exposing them to a world that is vastly different to the one they are used to and one which will ultimately bring them happiness, should they decide to go his way. All the references to cruising, hand holding, stealing hearts and getting high aside that's basically what it's about. Whether or not you agree I'm glad that comment sparked some debate.
As for the album cover I'm surprised that the dark figure hasn't fallen over leaning on that angle and I love how the female figure at the front appears to be naked apart from her high heels. |
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| [HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Saturday, March 12, 2011 6:18:35 PM | |
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No, they don't have "loads" of gay songs! WTF? Rob has always kept the lyrics neutral, so that they apply to gay or straight couples. Just because he is gay and he writes about relationships, that doesn't make a song homosexual. Love is love and it applies to all, period.
And again, Who gives a shit if a song is "gay" or not??? I sure as hell don't!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Saturday, March 12, 2011 5:14:06 PM)| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | I don't want it to be gay, I just think it is. Priest have loads of gay songs, why not this one?
| | | HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote: | | It has always been my experience that people determined to find something wrong with the lyrics in a song, always do because they read WAAAAAAY TOO MUCH into things, or take it completely out of context! People were hell bent on making Priest a "satanic" band way back when and the shit they told me the lyrics meant was absolutely hysterical! You WANT the song to be gay because Rob is gay and that's why you see it that way.
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | I think the Starbreaker is a gay guy who is opening up the gay lifestyle to guys who are confused about their sexuality. He does this by exposing them to a world that is vastly different to the one they are used to and one which will ultimately bring them happiness, should they decide to go his way. All the references to cruising, hand holding, stealing hearts and getting high aside that's basically what it's about. Whether or not you agree I'm glad that comment sparked some debate.
As for the album cover I'm surprised that the dark figure hasn't fallen over leaning on that angle and I love how the female figure at the front appears to be naked apart from her high heels. |
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| [Becks] Saturday, March 12, 2011 6:09:12 PM | |
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Ok I have to ask, what's peyote? LOL!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Saturday, March 12, 2011 4:45:16 PM)| | | spapad wrote: | | You crack me up! Now a sillouet is "not straight", WTF are you eating these days? Peyote?
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | Yeah those songs are all great and save the album but the rest of it is pretty rubbish. Check out the dark figure on the album cover, he's not straight.
| | | Becks wrote: | | LOL you' ve certainly done some sleuthing with the lyrics JJ!!! It's good to have a debate about what we think songs are about etc.
I don't think I've actually answered the question about Priests most underrated album. In some respects I think Point of Entry is underrated, people think that album is full of Don't Go type songs (incidentally I like that song, it makes me laugh hehe) but it has some great songs on it, Heading out to the Highway, Solar Angels, Desert Plains etc. So in a way it is terribly underrated.
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | I think the Starbreaker is a gay guy who is opening up the gay lifestyle to guys who are confused about their sexuality. He does this by exposing them to a world that is vastly different to the one they are used to and one which will ultimately bring them happiness, should they decide to go his way. All the references to cruising, hand holding, stealing hearts and getting high aside that's basically what it's about. Whether or not you agree I'm glad that comment sparked some debate.
As for the album cover I'm surprised that the dark figure hasn't fallen over leaning on that angle and I love how the female figure at the front appears to be naked apart from her high heels. |
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