| [Bev] Wednesday, February 25, 2009 10:49:29 AM | |
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Thanks, Freeze.
The district does not / cannot support this type of funding. A bond was recently approved to cover long overdue improvements to facilities, etc.
It's tough. San Antonio to our North and schools in the Rio Grande Valley have 5 times the staffing for the same size program and facilities support a practice band hall and performing band hall. I remember before one game pulling into the parking lot and the opposing school's band rig pulled up ... f*ckin' 18 wheeler. You'd have thought 'Priest was making a half-time appearance - lol
Anyway, thanks for your input.
HB, I think the maintenance issue is one of the points I will use when I apply for these grants. In their current condition, I'm surprised no one has contracted some fatal desease from the corrosive buildup inside the tubes ...  |
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| [Head banger] Wednesday, February 25, 2009 7:28:45 AM | |
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if you have to fix the instruments after every performance, would it not then become cost effective to replace? the time, effort, or money spent on repairs could more profitably go somewhere else, no?
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Wednesday, February 25, 2009 5:36:28 AM)| |  | Deep Freeze wrote: | | Not sure I understand, HB.
| | | Head banger wrote: | | true, but, is the cost savings realized, if time and or money has to be spend to keep them running all the time?
| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | Bev, it is actually a very common practice. However, there are significant factors to consider. Keep in mind that, the accomplishments of the school band are really not all that important, as far as the people that have the equipment are concerned. And with budget cuts these days, I am not surprised at the costs. In theory, they are offering "discounted" equipment, the age of which is also not important to them. It has "tangible value". The old 'supply and demand' gig.
Depending on the district, budget and influence of the local school board, you may be able to get a better deal but the practice you mentioned is really not uncommon. I recall, MANY years ago, when this practice was a more cost-effective means for schools to procure needed equipment at significant discount. Things have changed, my dear. You know that.
My suggestion, for what it is worth, is to seek out the assistance of a local music outlet. Perhaps send a fancy letter from the school district outlining the band's accomplishments and asking to "borrow" the instruments you need or even "rent" them at a far lower cost. Offer to publicize their involvement in some way. GREAT publicity. Just a thought. |
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| [Deep Freeze] Wednesday, February 25, 2009 5:36:28 AM | |
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Not sure I understand, HB.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Head banger from Wednesday, February 25, 2009 5:25:57 AM)| | | Head banger wrote: | | true, but, is the cost savings realized, if time and or money has to be spend to keep them running all the time?
| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | Bev, it is actually a very common practice. However, there are significant factors to consider. Keep in mind that, the accomplishments of the school band are really not all that important, as far as the people that have the equipment are concerned. And with budget cuts these days, I am not surprised at the costs. In theory, they are offering "discounted" equipment, the age of which is also not important to them. It has "tangible value". The old 'supply and demand' gig.
Depending on the district, budget and influence of the local school board, you may be able to get a better deal but the practice you mentioned is really not uncommon. I recall, MANY years ago, when this practice was a more cost-effective means for schools to procure needed equipment at significant discount. Things have changed, my dear. You know that.
My suggestion, for what it is worth, is to seek out the assistance of a local music outlet. Perhaps send a fancy letter from the school district outlining the band's accomplishments and asking to "borrow" the instruments you need or even "rent" them at a far lower cost. Offer to publicize their involvement in some way. GREAT publicity. Just a thought. |
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| [Head banger] Wednesday, February 25, 2009 5:25:57 AM | |
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true, but, is the cost savings realized, if time and or money has to be spend to keep them running all the time?
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Wednesday, February 25, 2009 5:11:57 AM)| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | Bev, it is actually a very common practice. However, there are significant factors to consider. Keep in mind that, the accomplishments of the school band are really not all that important, as far as the people that have the equipment are concerned. And with budget cuts these days, I am not surprised at the costs. In theory, they are offering "discounted" equipment, the age of which is also not important to them. It has "tangible value". The old 'supply and demand' gig.
Depending on the district, budget and influence of the local school board, you may be able to get a better deal but the practice you mentioned is really not uncommon. I recall, MANY years ago, when this practice was a more cost-effective means for schools to procure needed equipment at significant discount. Things have changed, my dear. You know that.
My suggestion, for what it is worth, is to seek out the assistance of a local music outlet. Perhaps send a fancy letter from the school district outlining the band's accomplishments and asking to "borrow" the instruments you need or even "rent" them at a far lower cost. Offer to publicize their involvement in some way. GREAT publicity. Just a thought. |
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| [Deep Freeze] Wednesday, February 25, 2009 5:11:57 AM | |
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Bev, it is actually a very common practice. However, there are significant factors to consider. Keep in mind that, the accomplishments of the school band are really not all that important, as far as the people that have the equipment are concerned. And with budget cuts these days, I am not surprised at the costs. In theory, they are offering "discounted" equipment, the age of which is also not important to them. It has "tangible value". The old 'supply and demand' gig.
Depending on the district, budget and influence of the local school board, you may be able to get a better deal but the practice you mentioned is really not uncommon. I recall, MANY years ago, when this practice was a more cost-effective means for schools to procure needed equipment at significant discount. Things have changed, my dear. You know that.
My suggestion, for what it is worth, is to seek out the assistance of a local music outlet. Perhaps send a fancy letter from the school district outlining the band's accomplishments and asking to "borrow" the instruments you need or even "rent" them at a far lower cost. Offer to publicize their involvement in some way. GREAT publicity. Just a thought. |
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| [Bev] Wednesday, February 25, 2009 3:41:32 AM | |
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K, Here's the education quandary for the day:
It's my final semester in school, which includes one final practicum. I have taken on the task of writing a grant to acquire new sousaphones for the band program at the high school my son attends. I have my work cut out for me as they need 6 new horns, each costing $5,400.
The current equipment (sousaphones) was manufactured in the 1930(s), kept in a warehouse somewhere until they were purchased by the district and issued to the school when it opened in the '50(s). Though they are close to 60 years old, they've only been used 40 years. These horns are used heavily during marching season and the district has not issued practice skins to protect them from normal wear & tear. The equipment now looks like plumbing that has been exposed to the elements, and the horns are in the shop for repairs after each event. I believe the cost of repairs for 6 each time is $800. The band is 150+ members, bringing home 109 first place awards in their most recent event. Earlier in the season they played at an Area competition at the Alamodome - the talent is there. My questions is: Is it common for schools to use equipment this old? I know as individuals it is possible. But in a program like this? Would enjoy reading any input.
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| [_strat_] Monday, January 26, 2009 4:56:24 PM | |
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Gotta go to bed myself. Good night!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Monday, January 26, 2009 4:53:39 PM)| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *yikes* MAN!! You saviors are a rough lot! HAHAHAHAAAA!!!! Well, I'm off for a bit! Strat bless you! HAHAHAAAAA!!!!
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Well, ok. But you know, ill come back in three days to bust the seven deadly plagues on yo ass.
| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | Now where is the drama in that????!?! No, no..we must use nails for proper effect. Sorry..aint martyrdom a bitch? HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Look, in this day and age we can dispense with bloodshed. We are above it. We have the technology to avoid such things.
You can glue me to a piece of wood.
| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WELL DONE, strat!!!! Well done, indeed!!!! I am proud of you!!!! GREAT job!! In fact, I have decided that I will start a new religion in YOUR honor!!! I will call it STRATISM!! Now then, would you mind if I nail you to a piece of wood...? HAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Well........... Since Freeze is being a lazy sod and not contributing anything to this thread (he also doesnt recycle - he will be saying "Jehowah" next, and we will get the excuse to stone him ), then it looks like I will have to pick up the flag and make an episode of "Insomniac Theater". Whatever the fuck that means.
Ok, the topic: morality and values
Now, this comes from a book that Ive read a while ago, as well as surfing on wikipedia, conservapedia and uncyclopedia (that last one was obviously the biggest influence which may account for a certain amount of goofiness). Just what is morality, and what are values? Well, morality is usualy defined as a code of conduct, that separates the good from bad. Most importantly, morality is relative. It changes from society to society, civilisation to civilisation, from one age to another. How long ago was it when it was considered immoral for women to show too much of their skin? A couple of decades? Nowadays, anything goes. The morals changed, and in this case, I personaly dont have anything against it ;). Ot they can change in a short period of time. Practicaly every societys worse crime is killing. In peace time, anyway. But in war time, killing the enemy is not only allowed, but welcome.
My point here would be that morals are not universal, as is often suggested, and it is not so easy to distiguish good from bad as some would have us think. Actualy, it can be quite impossible.
Now values...
The degree of importance that certain things, ideas, feelings, ect. play in our lives. Again, are they universal or not? Again, not in my opinion. Patriotism would be among the top values with most of my countrymen. I personaly dont give a shit for it. Faith would be another such thing. The point here would be that each and every one of us has the right to choose what values are important for him/her. That is why I usualy cannot stomach when people say that the state, the church, the educational system, ect... Should promote values. Imo, they are the business of individual.
Ok, so... I managed to bring it to an end without goofing around... Too much. So, what are your thoughts on this? Come on, lets get a debate started... Im hungry for it. |
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| [Deep Freeze] Monday, January 26, 2009 4:53:39 PM | |
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HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *yikes* MAN!! You saviors are a rough lot! HAHAHAHAAAA!!!! Well, I'm off for a bit! Strat bless you! HAHAHAAAAA!!!!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by _strat_ from Monday, January 26, 2009 4:40:59 PM)| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Well, ok. But you know, ill come back in three days to bust the seven deadly plagues on yo ass.
| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | Now where is the drama in that????!?! No, no..we must use nails for proper effect. Sorry..aint martyrdom a bitch? HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Look, in this day and age we can dispense with bloodshed. We are above it. We have the technology to avoid such things.
You can glue me to a piece of wood.
| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WELL DONE, strat!!!! Well done, indeed!!!! I am proud of you!!!! GREAT job!! In fact, I have decided that I will start a new religion in YOUR honor!!! I will call it STRATISM!! Now then, would you mind if I nail you to a piece of wood...? HAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Well........... Since Freeze is being a lazy sod and not contributing anything to this thread (he also doesnt recycle - he will be saying "Jehowah" next, and we will get the excuse to stone him), then it looks like I will have to pick up the flag and make an episode of "Insomniac Theater". Whatever the fuck that means.
Ok, the topic: morality and values
Now, this comes from a book that Ive read a while ago, as well as surfing on wikipedia, conservapedia and uncyclopedia (that last one was obviously the biggest influence which may account for a certain amount of goofiness). Just what is morality, and what are values? Well, morality is usualy defined as a code of conduct, that separates the good from bad. Most importantly, morality is relative. It changes from society to society, civilisation to civilisation, from one age to another. How long ago was it when it was considered immoral for women to show too much of their skin? A couple of decades? Nowadays, anything goes. The morals changed, and in this case, I personaly dont have anything against it ;). Ot they can change in a short period of time. Practicaly every societys worse crime is killing. In peace time, anyway. But in war time, killing the enemy is not only allowed, but welcome.
My point here would be that morals are not universal, as is often suggested, and it is not so easy to distiguish good from bad as some would have us think. Actualy, it can be quite impossible.
Now values...
The degree of importance that certain things, ideas, feelings, ect. play in our lives. Again, are they universal or not? Again, not in my opinion. Patriotism would be among the top values with most of my countrymen. I personaly dont give a shit for it. Faith would be another such thing. The point here would be that each and every one of us has the right to choose what values are important for him/her. That is why I usualy cannot stomach when people say that the state, the church, the educational system, ect... Should promote values. Imo, they are the business of individual.
Ok, so... I managed to bring it to an end without goofing around... Too much. So, what are your thoughts on this? Come on, lets get a debate started... Im hungry for it. |
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| [_strat_] Monday, January 26, 2009 4:40:59 PM | |
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Well, ok. But you know, ill come back in three days to bust the seven deadly plagues on yo ass.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Monday, January 26, 2009 4:37:39 PM)| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | Now where is the drama in that????!?! No, no..we must use nails for proper effect. Sorry..aint martyrdom a bitch? HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Look, in this day and age we can dispense with bloodshed. We are above it. We have the technology to avoid such things.
You can glue me to a piece of wood.
| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WELL DONE, strat!!!! Well done, indeed!!!! I am proud of you!!!! GREAT job!! In fact, I have decided that I will start a new religion in YOUR honor!!! I will call it STRATISM!! Now then, would you mind if I nail you to a piece of wood...? HAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Well........... Since Freeze is being a lazy sod and not contributing anything to this thread (he also doesnt recycle - he will be saying "Jehowah" next, and we will get the excuse to stone him), then it looks like I will have to pick up the flag and make an episode of "Insomniac Theater". Whatever the fuck that means.
Ok, the topic: morality and values
Now, this comes from a book that Ive read a while ago, as well as surfing on wikipedia, conservapedia and uncyclopedia (that last one was obviously the biggest influence which may account for a certain amount of goofiness). Just what is morality, and what are values? Well, morality is usualy defined as a code of conduct, that separates the good from bad. Most importantly, morality is relative. It changes from society to society, civilisation to civilisation, from one age to another. How long ago was it when it was considered immoral for women to show too much of their skin? A couple of decades? Nowadays, anything goes. The morals changed, and in this case, I personaly dont have anything against it ;). Ot they can change in a short period of time. Practicaly every societys worse crime is killing. In peace time, anyway. But in war time, killing the enemy is not only allowed, but welcome.
My point here would be that morals are not universal, as is often suggested, and it is not so easy to distiguish good from bad as some would have us think. Actualy, it can be quite impossible.
Now values...
The degree of importance that certain things, ideas, feelings, ect. play in our lives. Again, are they universal or not? Again, not in my opinion. Patriotism would be among the top values with most of my countrymen. I personaly dont give a shit for it. Faith would be another such thing. The point here would be that each and every one of us has the right to choose what values are important for him/her. That is why I usualy cannot stomach when people say that the state, the church, the educational system, ect... Should promote values. Imo, they are the business of individual.
Ok, so... I managed to bring it to an end without goofing around... Too much. So, what are your thoughts on this? Come on, lets get a debate started... Im hungry for it. |
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| [Deep Freeze] Monday, January 26, 2009 4:37:39 PM | |
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Now where is the drama in that????!?! No, no..we must use nails for proper effect. Sorry..aint martyrdom a bitch? HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by _strat_ from Monday, January 26, 2009 4:24:07 PM)| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Look, in this day and age we can dispense with bloodshed. We are above it. We have the technology to avoid such things.
You can glue me to a piece of wood.
| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WELL DONE, strat!!!! Well done, indeed!!!! I am proud of you!!!! GREAT job!! In fact, I have decided that I will start a new religion in YOUR honor!!! I will call it STRATISM!! Now then, would you mind if I nail you to a piece of wood...? HAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Well........... Since Freeze is being a lazy sod and not contributing anything to this thread (he also doesnt recycle - he will be saying "Jehowah" next, and we will get the excuse to stone him), then it looks like I will have to pick up the flag and make an episode of "Insomniac Theater". Whatever the fuck that means.
Ok, the topic: morality and values
Now, this comes from a book that Ive read a while ago, as well as surfing on wikipedia, conservapedia and uncyclopedia (that last one was obviously the biggest influence which may account for a certain amount of goofiness). Just what is morality, and what are values? Well, morality is usualy defined as a code of conduct, that separates the good from bad. Most importantly, morality is relative. It changes from society to society, civilisation to civilisation, from one age to another. How long ago was it when it was considered immoral for women to show too much of their skin? A couple of decades? Nowadays, anything goes. The morals changed, and in this case, I personaly dont have anything against it ;). Ot they can change in a short period of time. Practicaly every societys worse crime is killing. In peace time, anyway. But in war time, killing the enemy is not only allowed, but welcome.
My point here would be that morals are not universal, as is often suggested, and it is not so easy to distiguish good from bad as some would have us think. Actualy, it can be quite impossible.
Now values...
The degree of importance that certain things, ideas, feelings, ect. play in our lives. Again, are they universal or not? Again, not in my opinion. Patriotism would be among the top values with most of my countrymen. I personaly dont give a shit for it. Faith would be another such thing. The point here would be that each and every one of us has the right to choose what values are important for him/her. That is why I usualy cannot stomach when people say that the state, the church, the educational system, ect... Should promote values. Imo, they are the business of individual.
Ok, so... I managed to bring it to an end without goofing around... Too much. So, what are your thoughts on this? Come on, lets get a debate started... Im hungry for it. |
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| [_strat_] Monday, January 26, 2009 4:24:07 PM | |
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Look, in this day and age we can dispense with bloodshed. We are above it. We have the technology to avoid such things.
You can glue me to a piece of wood.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Monday, January 26, 2009 4:20:52 PM)| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WELL DONE, strat!!!! Well done, indeed!!!! I am proud of you!!!! GREAT job!! In fact, I have decided that I will start a new religion in YOUR honor!!! I will call it STRATISM!! Now then, would you mind if I nail you to a piece of wood...? HAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Well........... Since Freeze is being a lazy sod and not contributing anything to this thread (he also doesnt recycle - he will be saying "Jehowah" next, and we will get the excuse to stone him), then it looks like I will have to pick up the flag and make an episode of "Insomniac Theater". Whatever the fuck that means.
Ok, the topic: morality and values
Now, this comes from a book that Ive read a while ago, as well as surfing on wikipedia, conservapedia and uncyclopedia (that last one was obviously the biggest influence which may account for a certain amount of goofiness). Just what is morality, and what are values? Well, morality is usualy defined as a code of conduct, that separates the good from bad. Most importantly, morality is relative. It changes from society to society, civilisation to civilisation, from one age to another. How long ago was it when it was considered immoral for women to show too much of their skin? A couple of decades? Nowadays, anything goes. The morals changed, and in this case, I personaly dont have anything against it ;). Ot they can change in a short period of time. Practicaly every societys worse crime is killing. In peace time, anyway. But in war time, killing the enemy is not only allowed, but welcome.
My point here would be that morals are not universal, as is often suggested, and it is not so easy to distiguish good from bad as some would have us think. Actualy, it can be quite impossible.
Now values...
The degree of importance that certain things, ideas, feelings, ect. play in our lives. Again, are they universal or not? Again, not in my opinion. Patriotism would be among the top values with most of my countrymen. I personaly dont give a shit for it. Faith would be another such thing. The point here would be that each and every one of us has the right to choose what values are important for him/her. That is why I usualy cannot stomach when people say that the state, the church, the educational system, ect... Should promote values. Imo, they are the business of individual.
Ok, so... I managed to bring it to an end without goofing around... Too much. So, what are your thoughts on this? Come on, lets get a debate started... Im hungry for it. |
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| [Deep Freeze] Monday, January 26, 2009 4:20:52 PM | |
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HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WELL DONE, strat!!!! Well done, indeed!!!! I am proud of you!!!! GREAT job!! In fact, I have decided that I will start a new religion in YOUR honor!!! I will call it STRATISM!! Now then, would you mind if I nail you to a piece of wood...? HAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by _strat_ from Monday, January 26, 2009 4:09:20 PM)| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Well........... Since Freeze is being a lazy sod and not contributing anything to this thread (he also doesnt recycle - he will be saying "Jehowah" next, and we will get the excuse to stone him), then it looks like I will have to pick up the flag and make an episode of "Insomniac Theater". Whatever the fuck that means.
Ok, the topic: morality and values
Now, this comes from a book that Ive read a while ago, as well as surfing on wikipedia, conservapedia and uncyclopedia (that last one was obviously the biggest influence which may account for a certain amount of goofiness). Just what is morality, and what are values? Well, morality is usualy defined as a code of conduct, that separates the good from bad. Most importantly, morality is relative. It changes from society to society, civilisation to civilisation, from one age to another. How long ago was it when it was considered immoral for women to show too much of their skin? A couple of decades? Nowadays, anything goes. The morals changed, and in this case, I personaly dont have anything against it ;). Ot they can change in a short period of time. Practicaly every societys worse crime is killing. In peace time, anyway. But in war time, killing the enemy is not only allowed, but welcome.
My point here would be that morals are not universal, as is often suggested, and it is not so easy to distiguish good from bad as some would have us think. Actualy, it can be quite impossible.
Now values...
The degree of importance that certain things, ideas, feelings, ect. play in our lives. Again, are they universal or not? Again, not in my opinion. Patriotism would be among the top values with most of my countrymen. I personaly dont give a shit for it. Faith would be another such thing. The point here would be that each and every one of us has the right to choose what values are important for him/her. That is why I usualy cannot stomach when people say that the state, the church, the educational system, ect... Should promote values. Imo, they are the business of individual.
Ok, so... I managed to bring it to an end without goofing around... Too much. So, what are your thoughts on this? Come on, lets get a debate started... Im hungry for it. |
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| [_strat_] Monday, January 26, 2009 4:09:20 PM | |
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Well........... Since Freeze is being a lazy sod and not contributing anything to this thread (he also doesnt recycle - he will be saying "Jehowah" next, and we will get the excuse to stone him), then it looks like I will have to pick up the flag and make an episode of "Insomniac Theater". Whatever the fuck that means.
Ok, the topic: morality and values
Now, this comes from a book that Ive read a while ago, as well as surfing on wikipedia, conservapedia and uncyclopedia (that last one was obviously the biggest influence which may account for a certain amount of goofiness). Just what is morality, and what are values? Well, morality is usualy defined as a code of conduct, that separates the good from bad. Most importantly, morality is relative. It changes from society to society, civilisation to civilisation, from one age to another. How long ago was it when it was considered immoral for women to show too much of their skin? A couple of decades? Nowadays, anything goes. The morals changed, and in this case, I personaly dont have anything against it ;). Ot they can change in a short period of time. Practicaly every societys worse crime is killing. In peace time, anyway. But in war time, killing the enemy is not only allowed, but welcome.
My point here would be that morals are not universal, as is often suggested, and it is not so easy to distiguish good from bad as some would have us think. Actualy, it can be quite impossible.
Now values...
The degree of importance that certain things, ideas, feelings, ect. play in our lives. Again, are they universal or not? Again, not in my opinion. Patriotism would be among the top values with most of my countrymen. I personaly dont give a shit for it. Faith would be another such thing. The point here would be that each and every one of us has the right to choose what values are important for him/her. That is why I usualy cannot stomach when people say that the state, the church, the educational system, ect... Should promote values. Imo, they are the business of individual.
Ok, so... I managed to bring it to an end without goofing around... Too much. So, what are your thoughts on this? Come on, lets get a debate started... Im hungry for it. |
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| [_strat_] Wednesday, January 21, 2009 3:19:57 PM | |
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DC is right you now... What if he doesnt give a shit? And in any case, even if he was willing to learn, shouldnt we start with something less demanding... Like walking upright?
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Wednesday, January 21, 2009 8:30:38 AM)| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | OK, before this GREAT Thread is dissolved, I thought I would ask for a tremendous service from all of the regular members.
It seems there is a need among us. Our friend Glenn (dreamer/whatever) is in desperate need of education. I am sure you have all seen his posts. Never has there been a more urgent need for books, teachers and a solid plan. I ask that each of you look deeply into your hearts and give. Give to the newly formed:
"EDUCATE THE IDIOTS" fund. ANY amount will be appreciated. With your help, we can wipe out illiteracy once and for all. We can help a man find the words to tell his wife he is unfaithful...and she will actually be able to understand him. We will help a man handle confrontation with the ability to use intelligence rather than comments on the size of his genitalia. We can help a man actually makes sense when he comes to a website and is required to use words and be coherent. Please...call now.
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| [devils_child] Wednesday, January 21, 2009 8:59:16 AM | |
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Now now Freeze, it is only possible to teach those who want to learn..... sure you aren't biting off more than you can chew?? 
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Wednesday, January 21, 2009 8:30:38 AM)| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | OK, before this GREAT Thread is dissolved, I thought I would ask for a tremendous service from all of the regular members.
It seems there is a need among us. Our friend Glenn (dreamer/whatever) is in desperate need of education. I am sure you have all seen his posts. Never has there been a more urgent need for books, teachers and a solid plan. I ask that each of you look deeply into your hearts and give. Give to the newly formed:
"EDUCATE THE IDIOTS" fund. ANY amount will be appreciated. With your help, we can wipe out illiteracy once and for all. We can help a man find the words to tell his wife he is unfaithful...and she will actually be able to understand him. We will help a man handle confrontation with the ability to use intelligence rather than comments on the size of his genitalia. We can help a man actually makes sense when he comes to a website and is required to use words and be coherent. Please...call now.
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OK, before this GREAT Thread is dissolved, I thought I would ask for a tremendous service from all of the regular members.
It seems there is a need among us. Our friend Glenn (dreamer/whatever) is in desperate need of education. I am sure you have all seen his posts. Never has there been a more urgent need for books, teachers and a solid plan. I ask that each of you look deeply into your hearts and give. Give to the newly formed:
"EDUCATE THE IDIOTS" fund. ANY amount will be appreciated. With your help, we can wipe out illiteracy once and for all. We can help a man find the words to tell his wife he is unfaithful...and she will actually be able to understand him. We will help a man handle confrontation with the ability to use intelligence rather than comments on the size of his genitalia. We can help a man actually makes sense when he comes to a website and is required to use words and be coherent. Please...call now.
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| [_strat_] Sunday, December 14, 2008 3:07:01 PM | |
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Ok, easy now, you know how it goes. F, u, c, k. Come on, lets get to the second letter today! Say it!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Sunday, December 14, 2008 12:42:03 PM)| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | BWWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!! You....you.....BASTARD!!!!!!!!!! There, you see? Look what you have gone and made me say!!! I am completely unrecognizeable!!!! AAARRRRGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!! Excuse me while I go wash out my mouth...... HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Were I in close proximity to you, I'd advocate for taking up a collection in order to give you a free gift for having taken the time to share your wise wisdom.
The enormity of that free gift would be enormous.
| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | Good Morning, Boys and Girls! At last we have arrived at another episode of Insomniac Theater. A cool 4:30 in the morning here in blustery Vegas as we begin this installment. Having had more than an hour to ponder our subject matter, I thought we would lean in the direction of good writing! Ah! Good to see so many of you are excited! Let's begin:
We are often faced with the dilemma of what word to use when we are trying to impart a specific image to our reader. This Board is filled with those that choose words which, in this humble educator's opinion, are a bit shall we say...over the top? Unfortunately, I am one of those that has used improper or "over the top" words in an effort to make a point. There is also the profane word or ten that seem to be the everlasting crutch for some. If we are here on this Board, it is important to remember we are writing. We are using printed words. All too often, we forget that words have auras. They have penumbrae or emanations that the good writer should respect. The word "enormity" is a great example.
Enormity is one of those words that carries excess baggage. We are dealing with something that is outrageous, horrifying and grossly evil. You see, words come in weights much like boxers do. They are like sweaters; small, medium, large, extra large and gigantic. The good writer knows that a word like enormity should be left in the file cabinet until we come across a genocide or something.
Next case; redundancy. Ah yes, that habit we all seem to share around here! Again, I am guilty of it and would first like to confess. One particularly offensive example is "advocate for". We say, " Many of us advocate for the rights of our members.." AARRRRGGGHH!! We may campaign for, argue for, beg for and plead for but advocacy takes a direct object! It needs no supplementary preposition.
Well, this concludes our episode for now. I do hope you have all enjoyed it and will be prepared for our quiz later. |
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| [guidogodoy] Sunday, December 14, 2008 1:07:47 PM | |
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It would probably be more appropriate that you wash your hands. That is, unless you actually speak what you type. 
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Sunday, December 14, 2008 12:42:03 PM)| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | BWWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!! You....you.....BASTARD!!!!!!!!!! There, you see? Look what you have gone and made me say!!! I am completely unrecognizeable!!!! AAARRRRGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!! Excuse me while I go wash out my mouth...... HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Were I in close proximity to you, I'd advocate for taking up a collection in order to give you a free gift for having taken the time to share your wise wisdom.
The enormity of that free gift would be enormous.
| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | Good Morning, Boys and Girls! At last we have arrived at another episode of Insomniac Theater. A cool 4:30 in the morning here in blustery Vegas as we begin this installment. Having had more than an hour to ponder our subject matter, I thought we would lean in the direction of good writing! Ah! Good to see so many of you are excited! Let's begin:
We are often faced with the dilemma of what word to use when we are trying to impart a specific image to our reader. This Board is filled with those that choose words which, in this humble educator's opinion, are a bit shall we say...over the top? Unfortunately, I am one of those that has used improper or "over the top" words in an effort to make a point. There is also the profane word or ten that seem to be the everlasting crutch for some. If we are here on this Board, it is important to remember we are writing. We are using printed words. All too often, we forget that words have auras. They have penumbrae or emanations that the good writer should respect. The word "enormity" is a great example.
Enormity is one of those words that carries excess baggage. We are dealing with something that is outrageous, horrifying and grossly evil. You see, words come in weights much like boxers do. They are like sweaters; small, medium, large, extra large and gigantic. The good writer knows that a word like enormity should be left in the file cabinet until we come across a genocide or something.
Next case; redundancy. Ah yes, that habit we all seem to share around here! Again, I am guilty of it and would first like to confess. One particularly offensive example is "advocate for". We say, " Many of us advocate for the rights of our members.." AARRRRGGGHH!! We may campaign for, argue for, beg for and plead for but advocacy takes a direct object! It needs no supplementary preposition.
Well, this concludes our episode for now. I do hope you have all enjoyed it and will be prepared for our quiz later. |
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| [Deep Freeze] Sunday, December 14, 2008 12:42:03 PM | |
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BWWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!! You....you.....BASTARD!!!!!!!!!! There, you see? Look what you have gone and made me say!!! I am completely unrecognizeable!!!! AAARRRRGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!! Excuse me while I go wash out my mouth...... HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Sunday, December 14, 2008 10:50:19 AM)| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Were I in close proximity to you, I'd advocate for taking up a collection in order to give you a free gift for having taken the time to share your wise wisdom.
The enormity of that free gift would be enormous.
| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | Good Morning, Boys and Girls! At last we have arrived at another episode of Insomniac Theater. A cool 4:30 in the morning here in blustery Vegas as we begin this installment. Having had more than an hour to ponder our subject matter, I thought we would lean in the direction of good writing! Ah! Good to see so many of you are excited! Let's begin:
We are often faced with the dilemma of what word to use when we are trying to impart a specific image to our reader. This Board is filled with those that choose words which, in this humble educator's opinion, are a bit shall we say...over the top? Unfortunately, I am one of those that has used improper or "over the top" words in an effort to make a point. There is also the profane word or ten that seem to be the everlasting crutch for some. If we are here on this Board, it is important to remember we are writing. We are using printed words. All too often, we forget that words have auras. They have penumbrae or emanations that the good writer should respect. The word "enormity" is a great example.
Enormity is one of those words that carries excess baggage. We are dealing with something that is outrageous, horrifying and grossly evil. You see, words come in weights much like boxers do. They are like sweaters; small, medium, large, extra large and gigantic. The good writer knows that a word like enormity should be left in the file cabinet until we come across a genocide or something.
Next case; redundancy. Ah yes, that habit we all seem to share around here! Again, I am guilty of it and would first like to confess. One particularly offensive example is "advocate for". We say, " Many of us advocate for the rights of our members.." AARRRRGGGHH!! We may campaign for, argue for, beg for and plead for but advocacy takes a direct object! It needs no supplementary preposition.
Well, this concludes our episode for now. I do hope you have all enjoyed it and will be prepared for our quiz later. |
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| [~ MG_Metalgoddess~] Sunday, December 14, 2008 11:29:58 AM | |
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LOL≈
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Head banger from Sunday, December 14, 2008 11:22:53 AM)| | | Head banger wrote: | | BWAHAHAHAHA
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Were I in close proximity to you, I'd advocate for taking up a collection in order to give you a free gift for having taken the time to share your wise wisdom.
The enormity of that free gift would be enormous.
| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | Good Morning, Boys and Girls! At last we have arrived at another episode of Insomniac Theater. A cool 4:30 in the morning here in blustery Vegas as we begin this installment. Having had more than an hour to ponder our subject matter, I thought we would lean in the direction of good writing! Ah! Good to see so many of you are excited! Let's begin:
We are often faced with the dilemma of what word to use when we are trying to impart a specific image to our reader. This Board is filled with those that choose words which, in this humble educator's opinion, are a bit shall we say...over the top? Unfortunately, I am one of those that has used improper or "over the top" words in an effort to make a point. There is also the profane word or ten that seem to be the everlasting crutch for some. If we are here on this Board, it is important to remember we are writing. We are using printed words. All too often, we forget that words have auras. They have penumbrae or emanations that the good writer should respect. The word "enormity" is a great example.
Enormity is one of those words that carries excess baggage. We are dealing with something that is outrageous, horrifying and grossly evil. You see, words come in weights much like boxers do. They are like sweaters; small, medium, large, extra large and gigantic. The good writer knows that a word like enormity should be left in the file cabinet until we come across a genocide or something.
Next case; redundancy. Ah yes, that habit we all seem to share around here! Again, I am guilty of it and would first like to confess. One particularly offensive example is "advocate for". We say, " Many of us advocate for the rights of our members.." AARRRRGGGHH!! We may campaign for, argue for, beg for and plead for but advocacy takes a direct object! It needs no supplementary preposition.
Well, this concludes our episode for now. I do hope you have all enjoyed it and will be prepared for our quiz later. |
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