Look, in this day and age we can dispense with bloodshed. We are above it. We have the technology to avoid such things.

You can glue me to a piece of wood.

		Deep Freeze wrote:
		HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WELL DONE, strat!!!!  Well done, indeed!!!! I am proud of you!!!! GREAT job!! In fact, I have decided that I will start a new religion in YOUR honor!!! I will call it STRATISM!!  Now then, would you mind if I nail you to a piece of wood...?  HAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!      _strat_ wrote: Well........... Since Freeze is being a lazy sod and not contributing anything to this thread (he also doesnt recycle - he will be saying "Jehowah" next, and we will get the excuse to stone him), then it looks like I will have to pick up the flag and make an episode of "Insomniac Theater". Whatever the fuck that means. Ok, the topic: morality and values  Now, this comes from a book that Ive read a while ago, as well as surfing on wikipedia, conservapedia and uncyclopedia (that last one was obviously the biggest influence which may account for a certain amount of goofiness). Just what is morality, and what are values? Well, morality is usualy defined as a code of conduct, that separates the good from bad. Most importantly, morality is relative. It changes from society to society, civilisation to civilisation, from one age to another. How long ago was it when it was considered immoral for women to show too much of their skin? A couple of decades? Nowadays, anything goes. The morals changed, and in this case, I personaly dont have anything against it ;). Ot they can change in a short period of time. Practicaly every societys worse crime is killing. In peace time, anyway. But in war time, killing the enemy is not only allowed, but welcome.  My point here would be that morals are not universal, as is often suggested, and it is not so easy to distiguish good from bad as some would have us think. Actualy, it can be quite impossible. Now values... The degree of importance that certain things, ideas, feelings, ect. play in our lives. Again, are they universal or not? Again, not in my opinion. Patriotism would be among the top values with most of my countrymen. I personaly dont give a shit for it. Faith would be another such thing. The point here would be that each and every one of us has the right to choose what values are important for him/her. That is why I usualy cannot stomach when people say that the state, the church, the educational system, ect... Should promote values. Imo, they are the business of individual. Ok, so... I managed to bring it to an end without goofing around... Too much. So, what are your thoughts on this? Come on, lets get a debate started... Im hungry for it.