Just curious why Priest hasnt played this one live from AOR ? Classic old style JP heavy metal, yet forgotten..MpleSyrp Edited at: Monday, June 11, 2012 10:36:41 AM
Nupe: so basically the singles cuts are nothing new as far as unreleased live songs. Seems to be another repackaged box set list of everything that was previously released. Sad indeed..and nothing in the vault...now you know why people continue to download music, b/c it is ridiculious to buy the same crap again...Thumbs down on this one!!
Will there ever be any unreleased video footage from any early tours? Why doesnt Priest "grasp the past" rather than dismiss the early years?..MpleSyrp
[Maple Syrup] Tuesday, December 20, 2011 12:15:46 PM
Stop the spam and stop shoving your damn FB website down our throats! Day 11 blah blah blah... A little ettiquote would be nice. Yes, ignore user...MpleSyrp
[Maple Syrup] Sunday, November 20, 2011 9:18:01 AM
Tas: It was playful Sabbath jam that richie started,..Rob didnt sing to it; they were just doing it in btwn a song. proly lasted less than 2 min, if that. MpleSyrp Edited at: Sunday, November 20, 2011 9:19:56 AM
[Maple Syrup] Saturday, November 19, 2011 4:43:57 PM
Thanks Vail. No the festival was a long time and no longer exists. Litlle bit of info from this show way back in 1981 in Downtown NYC, Iron Maiden was scheduled to warm up for Priest but postponed. It was also a known that Miaden used to show up at Priest sounchecks to show them up for whatever reason as a sort of intimidation to let them know they were the better band...LOL Hardly (Mr. Brian Evans). MpleSyrp Edited at: Saturday, November 19, 2011 4:47:00 PM Edited at: Saturday, November 19, 2011 5:09:16 PM
[Maple Syrup] Saturday, November 19, 2011 3:45:42 PM
Cannot say enough about the show last night in Jersey. Priest played flawlessly and my personal faves were: Blood Red Skies, Nightcrawler and Beyond the Realms. They are a well oiled machine 21 songs in all and what can you say except they brought it to the house last nite. Loved too when they did the Black Sabbath jam for about 2min. Also showed the old school Priest in them, in so many ways. Halford delivering on many highs and his mid range screams brought the roof down OMG. Richie is really blending in nicely with the band, and his solos were spot on. Tipton is still the master ripping and shredding the whole night. Ian was as steady as ever, the backbone of the rythym section with Scott. Great Pyro and Light Show too certainly brought this long-time Priest fan back to the old days and the set list kicked ass too. Full House &The sound was terrific with the double bass of scott travis pulsating all night. If you are on the fence I suggest you go and not miss this one. Thank you JP for a great show! MPleSyrp
[Maple Syrup] Friday, October 21, 2011 11:15:59 PM
Oh BTW, what happened to this version of Blood Red Skies ? Long Gone in Europe my friends, long gone...IMO: Priest is a shell of itself in the US now. MpleSyrp
[Maple Syrup] Thursday, October 20, 2011 10:43:29 AM
Starbreaker: Great review and thanks for being truthful & insightful, instead of most of the newbies who would tell you how great it was this and that..The thing is Priest has obviously slipped on the live show, with most songs being tuned down by a note or two, so Rob can get through them. As I have been ranting lately, the sun is surely setting for the band and it is sad they are going out this way. The old fans know when they are off or sound like crap and we can tell when they dont have it anymore, so no need to berate anyone for their opinion. I too feel that this tour has been shaky at best, and the fact that they are playing it safe on their setlist tells you a whole lot of where they are at. It is pretty close to embarassing to see and hear Priest still going through the motions when the fire has obviously burned out, and now their live show is suffering as well. I will be there to wave goodbye one last time to them, but it is time to close it out Priest and go out with some respectability and dignity instead of this. Even on the American Idol thing, I thought they looked goofy and way dated...Look back at the video and you see judge Steven Tyler with a disappointed look on his face for Priest, because he knew.
I know I previously mentioned dinosaur band, ready for the ice age which IMO: puts the needle on the head,
Judas Priest Epitaph Tour Concert Review-Dallas TX.
So Judas Priest named their final world tour Epitaph. They should have named it the "We Don't Give a Fuck Anymore Tour".
That's how they played the other night at the Allen Event Center to about 6,000 people. First of all the sound sucked. The drums especially sounded terrible, amazing because of the beautiful, clear drum sounds Thin Lizzy and Black Label Society had. Judas Priest wasn't loud at all, how could Black Label Society have been louder than the Headlining Judas Priest?? Thin Lizzy sounded so clear and perfect and played their songs to perfection, eventhough their bass player is really irritating to look at, he's always in the front looking out at the crowd to see who is looking at him. He never once, went over by the drumset to play with the drummer.
Black Label Society did their thing with tremedous sound esp the drums. Zakk's guitar solo was WAY too long. I went to the bathroom, got a beer, looked at t-shirts and was still soloing.
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This was my 13th TIME TO SEE JUDAS PRIEST. I'm their biggest fan, I have all their CD's, DVD's, several t-shirts, they are MY band, a part of me, a part of who I am. I was very anxious about this show and had looked forward to it for months as I always enter a euphoric state at their shows. From the looks of the band, this is definitely going to be the last tour. Rob looked like he didnt want to be there and would walk off the stage after every song, Glenn Tipton looked bored out of his ass and fucked up The Sentinel.
I coudnt believe how sorry the drums sounded, I couldnt believe how bad the band sounded overall. One of the greatest things about Judas Priest concerts is the way their music sounds live. Their music alone live is a spectacle in itself. Nobody is heavier than Judas Priest live, Nobody. Not this show.
The high hat cymbals on the left and right were non-existent, the bass drums could barely be heard and the crash cymbals were also non existent. There was no treble on the drums at all.
Rob sounded terrible during Blood Red Skies and the song in general sounded like dog-ass, which is a shame, because on vinyl, it's an epic heavy metal composition that goes alongside Victim of Changes and Beyond the Realms of Death.
To my count, the band has had 5 major tours in the last 7 years, WAY TOO MANY and the band looks like they're sick of each other and like they're not getting along at all. The only guys having any fun were the new guitar player and Scott Travis, too bad you couldnt hear them worth shit.
The band opened with Rapid Fire, which should have slayed, it didnt. It sounded louder on my MP3 player with headphones, it was sloppy and boring. The band went right into Metal Gods, Heading out to the Highway then Starbreaker. They took out the intro on the drums on Starbreaker, probably because they sounded like shit. Victim of Changes was next and Glenn played that stupid ass guitar solo he's played for 25 years which ruins the momentum of the song.
Other songs the band went thru the motions on: Prophecy, Beyond the Realms of Death, Diamonds and Rust, Turbo Lover, The Sentinel, Nightcrawler, Judas Rising, Hell Bent for Leather some song from Rocka Rolla, Painkiller. They played at least one song from all their great albums.
Rob didnt sing a single word on Breaking the Law and during Electric Eye, which is about a spy satellite, they had a spasmatic real eye from 1976 that was really distracting and ridiculous. We got to hear Scott Travis talk, and despite how bored he looked, he had some energy in his voice and they played Living After Midnight.
Rob had more costume changes than Cher.
Judas Priest is my favorite band of all time, I can't believe their touring again, hell they probably can't either and by the looks of it, they all look they're ready for it all to be over. This is the most disappointing concert I've ever been to. Shame on you boys, you've been a part of my life since 1978 and me and my friends went to say goodbye to an old friend. I would have been better off at home watching Sportscenter having been left with all the great memories of tours past when the band gave a fuck, when they had energy and passion. It's all gone now.
If you want to talk about this I'm a friend of yours on Facebook and I posted on the Dallas thread. I hope you read my review, I'm your friend and you need to be told how pathetic you were here and you all need a kick in your ass. Someone has to give it to you straight: You sucked in Dallas. My email address is [email protected]. You guys are lucky I didnt post this shit on Facebook eventhough you deserve it.
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[Maple Syrup] Thursday, October 13, 2011 10:08:36 AM
Well I guess we can agree on 1 thing: it will be good to see them one last time. : ). Here is the setlist from last night in San Antonio and nothing on the setlist has changed (Ho Hum). MpleSyrp
[Maple Syrup] Wednesday, October 12, 2011 7:26:37 PM
No I wouldnt. But, would rather see what he could do with the likes of any of their back catalouge that they havent touched on: Love Bites, Running Wild, Tyrant, Desert Plains, Stained Class just to name a few...IMO: Admit it: Priest is playing it safe on this farewell tour with Richie. That's all I am saying. MpleSyrp Edited at: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 7:27:39 PM
[Maple Syrup] Wednesday, October 12, 2011 5:14:01 PM
Okay everyone has their opinion and that is what makes it great. Yes, it will be grand to see them one last time. This will be my 40th time seeing them since 1981. But please dont go overboard about how theyve been changing it up on their setlist since Rob's return, hardly. There are at least 12 songs from 2005 they have kept on the song list since then. What I am getting at is, outside of those 12, the others are fairly predictable..b/c they were played at one point ala Heading Out, Turbo Lover, Senteniel, Hell Bent, The Ripper etc.... Harsh? not really.. Did they hype this Epitaph tour as pulling out the dusted classics, they sure did. Are they delivering a very good live show, yes they are...but btwn the usual " classics" the real gems are Blood Red Skies and Starbreaker, with the later not being very good live, it is time to say goodbye one last time, as the sun is certainly setting for JP. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by L’avenir de L’humanite! from Wednesday, October 12, 2011 3:37:31 PM)
L’avenir de L’humanite! wrote:
It seems harsh to complain about the set list when JP have actually dusted off four songs from the past for this latest tour - namely "Starbreaker" (not played since 1979), "Night Crawler" (not played since 1991 with Rob, or 1997/8 with Ripper), plus "Blood Red Skies" & "Never Satisfied" which the band have never performed live before (okay Rob has been doing the latter with Halford).
The band do know, and also get that there are die-hard fans out there that want them to play everything from "Dying To Meet You" to "One Shot At Glory", but in reality these individuals probably make up about 5% of any audience that they play to (especially on a big World tour like this one), so while a hundred or so people are going mad for "Island Of Domination" the majority of the crowd are scratching their heads & wondering where "Breaking The Law", "You've Got Another Thing Comin'", "Living After Midnight" & their other favourites are.
What the band need to do, and who knows - with this retirement from actual World tours, now might be able to do - is to play some lower key shows, just for the die-hards - dust down & rehearse a whole set of rare & unheard of old & obscure live songs & bill it as "An Evening Of Rare Priest!" (Let Us Prey / Call For The Priest, Delivering The Goods, Screaming For Vengeance, Saints In Hell, Reckless, Ram It Down etc).
Anyway, to say that they haven't actually made any effort to mix things up since Rob rejoined, is also an exaggeration, because since 2004 they have played the following songs along with the usual & expected classics:
2005: Riding On The Wind, Judas Rising, Revolution, Hot Rockin', I'm A Rocker, Deal With The Devil, Hellrider, Exciter, Worth Fighting For, Solar Angels & Desert Plains.
2006: Take On The World
2008: Prophecy, Eat Me Alive, Between The Hammer & The Anvil, Devil's Child, Hell Patrol, Death, Dissident Aggressor, Angel, Rock Hard Ride Free & Sinner.
2010: Rapid Fire, Grinder, You Don't Have To Be Old To Be Wise, The Rage, Steeler & Freewheel Burning.
Not to mention acoustic &/or electric versions of Diamonds & Rust as well.
One last thing I will say is that regardless of the set list on the Epitaph tour, in my opinion, Judas Priest are playing some of the best shows that I have seen from them (and I've seen them 17 times since 1983). I saw them 3 times in the UK this year & every time they just got better & left me wanting more.
[Maple Syrup] Wednesday, October 12, 2011 10:47:07 AM
I say no freakin'way. Same 19 - 20 songs they have been doing nightly. Plus, new member Richie, so no need to go outside the box. But boy is it surely need..aka Eat Me Alive, Desert Plains, anything old & rare..Instead SOS !!
[Maple Syrup] Tuesday, October 11, 2011 12:27:53 PM
Why is every song they are playing live now tuned down 2 notes? Its like you cant even tell what song it is.. guess the old days are long gone..but they are playing the same setlist...disappointing. MpleSyrp
[Maple Syrup] Wednesday, October 05, 2011 2:07:00 PM
Let me just add that I saw the Big Four at Yankee Stadium recently and Slayer was the best band there. Metallica was decent at best, tired setlist (still 4 songs from the b
lack album), no dusted old relics whatsover and they are showing their age big time. They werent very tight, played 4 ballads too (ho
hum) and you could guess which song was next. The other thing with this big four crap is there tour schedule is US one night, india in three days from now, playing back in SF in middle of october. Finally, Hetfield is still on a big ego trip saying metallica will be around forever, when in fact they are deflating quickly. I wont be back to see them anytime soon. Decent show, nothing great especially from Metallica, who is overr ated. MpleSyrp
[Maple Syrup] Thursday, September 29, 2011 9:16:04 PM
Setlist will remain the same throughout the US which is obvious. Thanks for no dusted classics and basically the same setlist since 2004. OK Blood Red Skies which Rob is now basically talking through and Starbreaker which has been bloody awful. No gems here..
[Maple Syrup] Thursday, September 29, 2011 9:13:13 PM
Priest is off their game these days...Rob was doing the beginning falsetto in the beginning of the tour on Blood Red Skies..Now he is basically talking through the words too. Proly a good thing this will be their last world tour b/c not much left in the tank. Also, they gave us nothing on the setlist which would indicate "a dusted classic". (Starbreaker has been awful) Nothing. I will be there saying good bye one last time. Time to fade into the sunset for JP. Sad to see them like this at the end of their career and dropping down so many notches on the live show. Disappointed in the way this tour is turning out and the US tix sales have been poor too. Not meaning to slag them and I know they are up their in their age, but..its close to emarassing to watch for this die hard fan.
[Maple Syrup] Thursday, September 29, 2011 9:07:05 PM
Priest is off their game these days...Rob was doing the beginning falsetto in the beginning of the tour on Blood Red Skies..Now he is basically talking through the words too. Proly a good thing this will be their last world tour b/c not much left in the tank. Also, they gave us nothing on the setlist which would indicate "a dusted classic". (Starbreaker has been awful) Nothing. I will be there saying good bye one last time. Time to fade into the sunset for JP. Sad to see them like this at the end of their career and dropping down so many notches on the live show. Disappointed in the way this tour is turning out and the US tix sales have been poor too. Not meaning to slag them and I know they are up their in their age, but..its close to emarassing to watch for this die hard fan.
MpleSyrp Edited at: Thursday, September 29, 2011 9:09:04 PM
[Maple Syrup] Tuesday, September 20, 2011 9:58:22 AM
sad day for Priest at the izod center in NJ - 11/18/11. Half of the arena is roped off and the stage has been moved up to the middle of the arena. i guess they are already anticipating poor tix sales and they are figuring the toal capacity at the show to be 8,000, if that. The arena holds 20,000. I am also hearing tix sales have been poor in detroit and other parts of the US. IMO JP has saturated the US market in recent years touring here every summer pretty much since 2006 and add in KK's departure and Priest will not be seeing the crowds in the US that have had in Europe and South America/Mexico on this Epitaph tour. The sun is surely setting here in the US for Priest. Time to wave goodbye one last time.
[Maple Syrup] Tuesday, September 20, 2011 9:57:33 AM
sad day for Priest at the izod center in NJ - 11/18/11. Half of the arena is roped off and the stage has been moved up to the middle of the arena. i guess they are already anticipating poor tix sales and they are figuring the toal capacity at the show to be 8,000, if that. The arena holds 20,000. I am also hearing tix sales have been poor in detroit and other parts of the US. IMO JP has saturated the US market in recent years touring here every summer pretty much since 2006 and add in KK's departure and Priest will not be seeing the crowds in the US that have had in Europe and South America/Mexico on this Epitaph tour. The sun is surely setting here in the US for Priest. Time to wave goodbye one last time.
[Maple Syrup] Tuesday, September 20, 2011 9:55:18 AM
sad day for Priest at the izod center in NJ - 11/18/11. Half of the arena is roped off and the stage has been moved up to the middle of the arena. i guess they are already anticipating poor tix sales and they are figuring the toal capacity at the show to be 8,000, if that. The arena holds 20,000. I am also hearing tix sales have been poor in detroit and other parts of the US. IMO JP has saturated the US market in recent years touring here every summer pretty much since 2006 and add in KK's departure and Priest will not be seeing the crowds in the US that have had in Europe and South America/Mexico on this Epitaph tour. The sun is surely setting here in the US for Priest. Time to wave goodbye one last time.
[Maple Syrup] Tuesday, September 13, 2011 1:40:10 PM
same crappy setlist...no dusted off classics except: Blood Red Skies and Starbreaker. Sure I want to hear Metal Gods, BTL, VOC and YGATC for the zillionth time live. Seriously WTF!
MpleSyrp
[Maple Syrup] Tuesday, September 13, 2011 1:37:10 PM
Priest is really stooping a new low with another compilation release. How about something unreleased from the vault on video? No early stuff, nothing but the same old material. Tired of still beating the Priest drum but they seriously have nothing to offer the fans anymore. Same crap, same bullshit management decisions. People are tired of them..once again call them a "Dinosaur Band". MpleSyrp
Love the old UK Patch...Heres another HR. Random Old School 81 - 83 JP collage. Halford shot(s) yes. MpleSyrp Edited at: Friday, August 05, 2011 9:03:53 PM
All valid points H End. Couldnt agree more. Only rare are Blood Red Skies and Starbreaker. Failed to deliver rare gems as promised. MpleSyrp [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Heroes_End from Thursday, June 30, 2011 9:40:29 AM)
Heroes_End wrote:
As a die-hard, lifelong Priest fan…I have to say the Epitaph tour and set list leave a lot to be desired.
Of course, the biggest disappointment is KK’s absence. Frankly, I miss him more than when Halford left. I also believe the fact that his replacement, while musically competent, was selected because of his resemblance to KK. It reeks of a Gene Simmons stunt.
I am also largely disappointed with the set list. In the press prior to the tour we were promised a set list for the long-time fans full of rarities or songs never played before live. That is not what was delivered. Aside from a few good selections, like “Blood Red Skies”, it is the same old, same old.
I understand that a major constraint in the selection of songs is the diminished ability of Rob’s voice, but they could have delivered rare, less strenuous songs.
If the true intent was to deliver a rarity filled, career retrospective set list, selecting a minimum one song per album, then songs should have been selected using the following guide rules:
Is it a Judas Priest original? That means no cover songs should be played i.e. “Green Manalishi” & “Diamonds & Rust”.
Has the song ever appeared on a Judas Priest or Halford live album? I will assume this tour will result in a live cd/dvd, if so the main selling point is the inclusion of never before played songs. This includes Rob singing songs from “Jugulator” and “Demolition”.
Songs should not be too vocally demanding so Rob can sing them night after night without him doubling over and looking at the ground constantly.
Bearing the above in mind, here is my suggested set list:
Rocka Rolla = Rocka Rolla
Sad Wings of Destiny = Dreamer Deceiver
Sin After Sin = Here Comes the Tears
Stained Class = Saints in Hell
Killing Machine = Before the Dawn
British Steel = Steeler
Point of Entry = Don’t Go
Screaming for Vengeance = Devil’s Child
Defenders of the Faith = Night Comes Down
Turbo = Reckless
Ram It Down = Hard as Iron
Painkiller = One Shot at Glory
Jugulator = Cathedral Spires
Demolition = Metal Messiah
Angel of Retribution = Worth Fighting For
Nostradamus = Conquest
After these you can play whatever you wish, I personally cannot imagine a show without “Hell Bent for Leather” and the motorcycle.
Couple of quick observations on the setlist from Tilburg:
Diamonds & Rust acoustic is back - Always loved the electric version. Last year when the played this electric, it was by far the best song of the show.
Turbo Lover - Really? again...They couldnt do anything else from Turbo? Serously? Out in the Cold? Could have came up with something better.
Alot of the songs in the setlist IMO they are playing it safe and are from the original Reunion of 2006: Heading Out, Sentinel, Beyond the Realms, Victim of Changes, Green Manalishi, Hell Bent.
Time for them to give YGATC & BTL and Metal Gods a rest..Been there done that for the last 5 tours..
Never Satisfied - Halford and his band have been playing this one, so no real dusted classic there (sorry JD)
The real dusted classics are Blood Red Skies (Never played live B4) & Starbreaker, which was last played live in 1980.
Other than that, not much...Dont get me wrong it is a solid setlist, but too safe IMO. Throw in Living aftre Midnight and it only becomes worse..
Too many missing classics to go on about...running wild, desert plains, tyrant, jawbreaker, etc...
Halford looks and sounds great and is unlikely they will change the setlist up much, considering they rarely do so. Looking frwd to seeing Priest in the states.
Couple of quick observations on the setlist from Tilburg:
Diamonds & Rust acoustic is back - Always loved the electric version. Last year when the played this electric, it was by far the best song of the show.
Turbo Lover - Really? again...They couldnt do anything else from Turbo? Serously? Out in the Cold? Could have came up with something better.
Alot of the songs in the setlist IMO they are playing it safe and are from the original Reunion of 2006: Heading Out, Sentinel, Beyond the Realms, Victim of Changes, Green Manalishi, Hell Bent.
Time for them to give YGATC & BTL and Metal Gods a rest..Been there done that for the last 5 tours..
Never Satisfied - Halford and his band have been playing this one, so no real dusted classic there (sorry JD)
The real dusted classic is Blood Red Skies (Never played Live B4) & Starbreaker, which was last played live in 1980.
Other than that, not much...Dont get me wrong it is a solid setlist, but too safe IMO. Throw in Living aftre Midnight and it only becomes worse..
Too many missing classics to go on about...running wild, desert plains, tyrant, jawbreaker, etc...
Halford looks and sounds great and is unlikely they will change the setlist up much, considering they rarely do so. Looking frwd to seeing Priest in the states.
