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WHy UK bands are so GOOD
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metal / rock is dead in USA?


[soccer star] Saturday, September 10, 2011 12:37:27 AM 

I am from England and i do think we have some of the best bands on the planet but...Demoncat is spot on
about where the origins of our beloved music came from.

[heimda11] Friday, September 09, 2011 8:50:35 PM 
Thank you England for the Magna Carta and Heavy Metal!
[DemonCat] Friday, September 09, 2011 1:35:14 PM 
Heavy Metal is indeed from the UK.

However Rock and Roll originated in the United States of America in the 50's. 10 years before the likes of The Beatles, and The Rolling Stones.

One influenced the other, and R-N-R was influenced by Rhythm and Blues from The U.S.A.

Both country's along with just about every other Country in the World now ROCKS thanks to their influences.

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[heimda11] Friday, September 09, 2011 10:35:19 AM 
pardon brain cramp, mass American (post-Prohibition) beer is light lager NOT pilsner
[LFKS] Friday, September 09, 2011 9:33:26 AM 
Most of the best rock and metal bands are from UK.
British created Rock 'n Roll.
British created Heavy Metal.

UK Rocks!!
[soul stealer] Friday, September 09, 2011 4:29:41 AM 
i like all the nuclear blast european bands. they really are better than US bands
[heimda11] Thursday, September 08, 2011 12:22:12 PM 
Blue Moon figured it out.  Light, weak, mass marketed pilsner compared with hearty, full-bodied pints on draught from a local pub.
[Blue Moon] Thursday, September 08, 2011 12:02:29 PM 
 There must be something in the beer. 
[heimda11] Thursday, September 08, 2011 10:39:55 AM 
[guidogodoy] Thursday, September 08, 2011 10:27:22 AM 
I'd certainly be more tempted to do #1 had you done #2 ("heh...Beavis, he said...") lol

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[heimda11] Thursday, September 08, 2011 10:06:51 AM 
LOL, I'm sooo sorry that (1) you actually are wading through my neurotic ramblings and (2) that there aren't proper paragraphs.
[guidogodoy] Thursday, September 08, 2011 9:58:44 AM 

If you truly loved us, you would write with paragraph breaks. I am blind...

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[heimda11] Thursday, September 08, 2011 9:46:38 AM 
Metal12, throwing more ideas on the table for consideration and evolution.  The foundation of American government is complex.  The U.S. Constitution was only ratified because there was a commitment to develop a Bill of Rights after the revolution.  The first Ten Ammendments are the sacred Bill of Rights (direct evolution of the British Magna Carta - America is SO British and we don't know it - I know it because read too much as a kid).  The very FIRST Ammendment says something like (had this memorized when would protest Reagan and Bush the First as a college student) "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble and petition government for redress of greivances." 
The white, male, slave-owning American Founding Fathers (who transcended their flaws to create a miracle) were clearly grounded in Christianity but they were also Free Masons, which adds nuance to the discussion.  (I think Free Masons are the Harlot of Bablylon of which Revelations speaks.) 
The American system clearly protects religious diversity as well as freedom from religion.  Satanic devil worship is also protected by a ruling from the U.S. Supreme Court I guess (although I think they should be viciously prosecuted through anti-trust violations - and I'm so sorry to say this out loud, but I wonder about a Templar "Jihad" against Satanism because I think God is in a war - I know many will trip for all the right reasons when I say that, just being honest about ideas been wrestling with).
Many of the Christians I love I think misunderstand the Founding Fathers intent because they are loyal to God's Law not Man's Law. 
Definately the Founding Fathers trusted in God, but they were building THE system for governance of man by man.
FYI, many Christian Americans think America is a beast of Revelations.  I believe that it doesn't matter who is elected they are all working for a more powerful master that is moving toward the New World Order.  As a Political Science major who was very active in Democratic Party politics, I now have very little to do with system because we are scratching hopelessly at the surface when major change is needed.  In my opinion the only revolution that will truly work is a CONSUMER REVOLUTION.  Capitalism is the hope of mankind - the only system that can replace war.  The only time I see most people get sophisticated is when the money in their wallet is directly affected.  A shrinking world driven by the information age on a J-curve could make a consumer revolution possible.
Sorry to get even weirder, lol, but I love y'all.
[heimda11] Thursday, September 08, 2011 9:10:37 AM 

I've certainly heard discussion of American individualism being both a positive and a negative.  Americans don't maintain community and family like, for example, Mexicans.  I live by a few Mexican families and I marvel at the beauty of their interpersonal relations.  Multi-generational, all about family and dad will come home from work and play with the kids!  Also, much American pop psychology is Hollywood youth driven, while many other cultures are more respectful of their patriarchs and matriarchs.  Don't know British culture that well to say.


[metal12] Wednesday, September 07, 2011 10:43:16 PM 
I have been enjoying the posts in this thread. I personally do not care how the discussion develops. I'd  like it to be very open. It has also been quite educational. And best of all, I get to know more Priest Fans  !!! 

History and culture (environment) does influence people's mind. It also affects how people express their taste in art and music. So as faith and language we speak affect how we behaive. Do you guys think UK is more group oriented culture than the US ? If so, this may be the reason why UK bands seems have developed in the way they did... (got together, exchanged ideas, influenced each other, etc)

Bible is an amazing book. Unfortunately, people has twisted things around for centuries which sometime lead it to a terrible violence. Of course this can be said to any other religion. I am not bashing down on Christianity at all. I also understand that the US constitution was founded based on a Christian faith. Then, gradually it was taken away by their own government. So many freedom has been taken away since then. It seems everything is under the Government control now. Everything is enforced and limited.  The Government, enemy of the State,  and people are voting for them.

This is how I see it in my own selfish way. Please correct me if I am wrong ?

Edited at: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 10:50:47 PM
[DemonCat] Wednesday, September 07, 2011 12:58:44 PM 
I'm sorry that this got off topic. I got caught up in the moment of this discussion. It happens to most of us at times.

Heimda11 check your private message when you get the chance, and have a wonderful day as well, and keep the Defending the faith!
Edited at: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 1:01:09 PM
[DemonCat] Wednesday, September 07, 2011 12:49:30 PM 
The path to Heaven is narrow.
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[heimda11] Wednesday, September 07, 2011 12:41:33 PM 
United we stand brother and diversity can be the key to health.
[DemonCat] Wednesday, September 07, 2011 12:38:14 PM 
I am no teacher my friend, and I was skimming over your past posts. This could be a grand discussion, and perhaps we could teach/learn together?

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[heimda11] Wednesday, September 07, 2011 12:31:13 PM 
Moses was definately the man.  I look forward to learning from you DemonCat.  I'm not technically a Christian but I love Jesus (being more inclined to the Germanic honor traditions which I think directly tie to the Templars - the way to heaven for us I think is our blood sacrifice - honorable death in battle - am quite comfortable, however, going to Hel with the women and children from said tradition - all glory to the Almighty).  I try to not be conflict or "debate" oriented in spiritual discussion because I think God's Law is in every cell and every atom and we do our best through prayer, thought, science to understand.  Have a wonderful day.
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