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[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Monday, May 09, 2011 5:00:27 PM 
I posted this video before but didn't know the date it was from. It is from MARCH 10, 2011!! KK is talking about the upcoming Epitaph tour and is obviously ONBOARD for it!!! So what the hell happened between March 10 and April 20???? Seems to me KK didn't like how the writing of the new album was going and some management decisions, so he decided to leave the band sometime AFTER March 10th.  So many of those tickets were not sold under false pretenses as we believed (unless KK isn't telling us here that he had already made up his mind to leave the band).

Edited at: Monday, May 09, 2011 5:21:20 PM
[Nupe The Ripper] Monday, May 09, 2011 3:27:10 PM 
I haven't posted about KK's departure in more than two weeks. Why? Because the discussion is over for me. KK out: fine, Richie in: fine. KK and the band have probably thought about this for months, so there ain't no way he's going to make a surprise return. A reason that causes someone to retire from his very own band after forty years is not something he'll forget about in a couple of weeks and say "hey guys, mind if I join back?". Of course I, like every other fan, have that little hope that one day he'd come back, but that's something I know to be as likely as winning millions in a national lottery. Unlike some I'm not pointing out any fingers to whom should be held responsible for this turn of events: maybe it was the management, maybe they did argue about Nostradamus or money or some other shit, or maybe KK just doesn't want to do it anymore. But who the fuck knows? Knowing the true reason wouldn't make the situation any better than it is now.

Yeah, it could have been handled better and they could have announced the thing earlier, but I certainly wouldn't have wanted to hear in February just after I bought the tickets that "yeah so KK ain't coming along and we might not tour at all because we still aren't sure about a replacement, sorry for the inconvenience and leaving you in doubt for the next few months". At least now we know what the band is going to do, even if it was slapped on our faces. Yeah, it sucks with the farewell tour and all, but it's not the end of the world. There's still four old members you can say goodbye to, and KK is so exceptionally easy to contact that you can easily say your goodbye to him as well. Maybe you can't give him a goodbye in a concert but the idea is still the same, it might lack some feeling but that's life, it's not good all the time.

Those who think that the band's over for them when one member is replaced, especially when it's a key member, fine. Move on, listen to the old albums and watch the old DVDs, don't buy the new album and don't buy tickets for the new tour. But don't start bitching about it to us who still wan't to support the band. And especially don't say that everything Priest will do in the future will be crap if you haven't yet heard a single song where Richie plays with Priest. Who knows, it might turn a lot better than people are expecting.

Believe me I was just as much shocked about the news as everyone else, in fact I mourned all the way through 20th April when I heard this. KK was probably my most favourite member of the band and I still like him, largely due to the fact that he's so positive, easy to contact, and has kept his feet on the ground. Not saying that the other members are the opposite, but there's a little percent of something in KK that makes him my favorite slightly more than other members. I'm still supporting both the band and KK, there's no way even a serious matter like this would change that. If life gives you lemons, eat them of at least make some fucking juice out of them, don't just throw them away and let them rot.

I'm sure that many will disagree with the above text. But hey, everyone's entitled to opinion, and I don't think I attacked anyone in my post. In fact I think that I'll ignore this thread just to make sure I don't start arguing with someone, because there is not one correct opinion about this one.

Edited at: Monday, May 09, 2011 3:27:41 PM
[Skybreaker] Monday, May 09, 2011 3:14:48 PM 
I hope you are wrong about it being like the Halford band, that would blow huge chuncks. I would rather they just call it quits like K.K. Downing did. But now that you say that it makes sense because Halford will probably have more pull now with K.K. gone.
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[jimmyjames] Monday, May 09, 2011 3:07:56 PM 
Personally I can't believe people are blaming management alone for what has happened. The guys in the band are just as much to blame if not more so. I don't believe for one second that they have absolutely zero control over their band, the direction it takes and the decisions they make. This is just the latest in 30 years of crappy decisions Priest have made since 1981. The tour is a farce, the tickets were sold under false pretences and I am predicting a rather boring, metal by numbers kind of album in the vein of the Halford band. By that I mean competant but not spectacular.
[Mr. Dave Genocide] Monday, May 09, 2011 2:48:33 PM 
**Rubs his temples.. Shakes head, and walks away in disgust at the idiocracy of the people on this topic**

(Except for those true Priest fans, you know who you are)

[buddie] Monday, May 09, 2011 12:27:16 PM 
IF KK was JJ would JP give JJ a BYE BYE or Cya Cya or maybe a Y Y and retire... unless JJ came back to Good Times...Dynomite! Ain't we lucky we got 'em ... Good Richie. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck it must be JP Management ducking the true issue...IS JJ a good replacement for KK? YES, only if JJ is Jimi Hendrix's ( and cloning will do in this case, no sense gettin' Jesus involved this time) and thats it! I think KK would like to see GT keep up with JJ the replacement. aka light my fire ...with cold desire...losen all my grip... eat my diamonds...drinkin all my gin... feast your eyes on... Good Richie not fittin in.
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[Doubting Thomas] Monday, May 09, 2011 9:54:41 AM 
I do like the new photo of the band. Everyone knows, except Osama Bin Laden, that KK left Judas Priest. But they still needed to put a guitar in this hand during the photo shoot to make us feel... he must sleep with his guitar. That is the only way, we the fans, will feel if he is a near equal replacement guitarist for KK ... by taking a picture of him while holding a "WHITE" guitar (NICE ALSO THAT HE HAS THE SAME HAIR COLOUR AS KK)...similar to one of KK's guitar colours? IT would have been classic to have also in his photo INCLUDE... drum sticks in his hair and a wireless head-set micriphone and foot pedals for bass chords...then he could have replaced Rob, Glenn,Ian,and Scott. That would HAVE SAVED JP Management and Sony a TON of money. Edited at: Monday, May 09, 2011 9:56:55 AM
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[buddie] Monday, May 09, 2011 9:23:20 AM 
The new album everyone is referencing to is in the CAN. Nortradamus was produced by Glenn Tipton and KK Downing. The new album is most likely in limbo or being recut because of KK's departure. I new guy keeps the bank going. When Rob left it wasn't the same with Ripper. THAT IS WHY ROB CAME BACK. Now that KK is out we can only hope for the day when KK COMES BACK. When that day is I don't know.
[Alli] Monday, May 09, 2011 6:44:14 AM 
I know it sounds sad and I ll probably get told to get off the forum but I agree. The last tour should have KK stood there not some other guy. It s just not gonna be the same without him.  After the last tour they could then hire who the hell they liked and carry on.  I can;t believe that KK is not gonna be there. Management should ve sorted the problem out instead of just thinking about the money.
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[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Sunday, May 08, 2011 9:31:30 PM 
We are just sick and tired of these trolls that come on here and bitch and stir things up on purpose to make people angry. They are a waste of time. Those are the people that I was talking about and I'm sure J.D. was too. They are trolls and not real fans of Priest. The "true fans" of Priest are more than welcome to speak their mind and J.D. has told them that. It's obvious when people are not true fans, like brian_evans for example. There are many of us here, including you, that are supporting Priest through this, although many of us with a heavy heart. It's a very hard time for many of us and to have these assholes come on here that claim to know Priest when they clearly don't and think they are going to "teach" us something is just ridiculous. They are not true fans and that is who I was referring to and I'm sure J.D. was too.

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[J.D. DIAMOND] Sunday, May 08, 2011 9:03:54 PM 
I never said "you" were bitching did I? "NO".  Calm the down for christs sake,you asked a god damn question and I answered it,chill the hell out. If you don't like what I have to say hit the ignore button,I'm surely to lose some sleep over it.

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[\~AuntieB~/] Sunday, May 08, 2011 8:05:35 PM 
Bitching?  Who's bitching?  Some true fans are sincerely upset.  They're simply voicing their opinions. They're entitled to it.  Like you do JD.  And have done since Nostradamus was released.  Of course some are here to stir the pot a little.  The Vets seem to take care to mediate.  And thankfully, too.

Everything with you is a "bold faced fact".  Good for you.  Whatever.

The only thing KK might be guilty of is standing behind whatever project the band were issued, making the best of it, AND letting fans get close (via meet&greets).  I wonder whose idea that was.  Nah.  I don't.  I know whose idea it was 

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[spapad] Sunday, May 08, 2011 3:34:58 PM 
Actually, I think Curbishly stuck Nos in their laps. Remember the Who's years of doing rock operas? That all quit, when they quit Curbishly, the fact that they produced those records in the only years rock opera was widely accepted is the only way they made it.  His management is like death to any band. The fact JP are even surviving under his management team is a miracle! Why do they stay with them??? The question all us Priest fans would really love to know the answer to.
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[J.D. DIAMOND] Sunday, May 08, 2011 2:47:45 PM 
Whatever you've written...."cool"...good for you,but the Nostradamus album was "K.K.'s creations" and it was his idea,not managements,I know this for a bold faced fact.  And define true fans? Those of us that post here that are not bitching about the band moving forwards without fucking K.K. Downing.

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[Vaillant 3.0] Sunday, May 08, 2011 1:36:20 PM 
I know, right? At least get the name of the dude before doing the nasty without protection!!

The funny thing about the dads' reactions is that it seems as though they've been given the worst ever possible prison sentence. As though their world just collapsed before their very eyes. You can just feel that look of "NOOOOOOO!!!!!!" on their faces.

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS from Sunday, May 08, 2011 11:34:51 AM)
[spapad] Sunday, May 08, 2011 12:44:06 PM 
Does this mean your leaving again, because you ===============Lost your case again? HA!!

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[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Sunday, May 08, 2011 11:35:56 AM 
Well, NOW it all makes sense!

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[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Sunday, May 08, 2011 11:34:51 AM 
Me too! Especially when she brings in potential father's number 12 and 13 and they "Are not the father"! Are you kidding me???

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[guidogodoy] Sunday, May 08, 2011 3:49:54 AM 
"Occupation" of "unemployed student?!?" BWWWHAAAAAAA!!!!!! Oooooooo, call the Feds. A national secret has been outed! Curse you, Wikileaks!

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[Vaillant 3.0] Sunday, May 08, 2011 1:48:46 AM 
Personally, I'm more of a fan of Maury. It's fun to see the reactions of the fathers when they're told that, well, they're the fathers.
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