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[DemonCat] Sunday, September 04, 2011 6:04:26 PM 
A rock...a ton of bricks? Who's really keeping track after so much? Indeed it's been a hell-of-a-ride! I am emerging out of it ok, as is my family, but it's not over yet. I'm only "online" after-all. Happy to be back here though!!!  YEAHHHH!!!
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Sunday, September 04, 2011 4:15:38 PM)
[spapad] Sunday, September 04, 2011 4:15:38 PM 
Demon Cat...........have you been living under a rock? You missed it all eh? I take it you have not had internet for quite some time?

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by DemonCat from Sunday, September 04, 2011 1:02:35 PM)
[DemonCat] Sunday, September 04, 2011 1:02:35 PM 

Hello to everyone!
  I'm just getting done reading alot of these posts. The Thread definately caught my eye. I hadn't heard the news of KK's leaving. Not even of the new CD Epitaph, or "Farewell" tour. I am at the moment just happy to be able to come back on here. Online even. Then hit with this news = shocked.

[acolyte55] Sunday, July 24, 2011 6:39:10 PM 
my bad, lol didnt look at date
[Blue Moon] Saturday, July 23, 2011 4:14:35 PM 
 Where have you been in the past three weeks?
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by acolyte55 from Saturday, July 23, 2011 3:44:29 PM)
[acolyte55] Saturday, July 23, 2011 3:44:29 PM 
new blog up on kk,s site, talking more about his decision to leave the band , golf , and ian hills comments.
[wwol] Wednesday, July 20, 2011 11:14:55 PM 

Been watching  30+ years of Priest on Youtube tonight. KK, Please come to New England, It ain't Judas Priest without YOU.

[hellrider 31038] Thursday, July 07, 2011 9:18:02 PM 


  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by gabesz66 from Monday, July 04, 2011 1:49:59 PM)
Edited at: Thursday, July 07, 2011 9:35:31 PM
[gabesz66] Monday, July 04, 2011 1:49:59 PM 
Hi all!
I saw a video on the youtube and I did not see K.K.:( I saw an unknown guitarist:( K.K. please come back!
[.] Sunday, July 03, 2011 1:46:46 PM

K.K. DOWNING: My Golf Course Was Never Reason For Not Doing Latest Tour With JUDAS PRIEST - July 3, 2011
Former JUDAS PRIEST guitarist Kenneth "K.K." Downing has shot down as "inaccurate" reports that he left the band because chose to concentrate on running his Astbury Hall 18-hole championship golf course in Shropshire, England.

In a recent interview with Express & StarJUDAS PRIEST bassist Ian Hill stated about Downing's departure from the group, "I think Ken had just had enough. He'd got a lot on his plate with his golf course and I think he couldn't spend the time away. This tour's going to be, by the time it's wrapped up, the best part of two years. It's a long, long time to be away from things and I just think Ken couldn't handle the time away."

In response to Hill's comments and the subsequent press reports which insinuated that Downing "chose golf over PRIEST," the guitarist has released the following statement via his official web site:

"The word 'think' depicts uncertainty; therefore it lends itself to supposition. 

"I love Ian as a brother and nothing will ever change that, but his take on the situation in this instance is inaccurate, and the people from the press had no license to jump in and take what they thought was a cheap scoop out of what Ian thought the situation was. 

"To concentrate on my golf course is not, and was never, the reason for not doing the latest tour with JUDAS PRIEST. I have had in place since last September the world's leading golf-management company known asTroon GolfTroon manages approximately 200 facilities world-wide; please see the facility directory at

"The course has been open and running smoothly since last September when it hosted a great charity event for the Lords Taverner's in aid of underprivileged children. 

"Anyone that has ever known me will testify that I have always been dedicated to JUDAS PRIEST and the fans, and nothing has ever stopped me from touring until now. 

"I have been busy going to concerts, metal exhibitions, trying to help younger bands to get off the ground, and have plans to travel on business to other countries including Finland, Spain, and the U.S. this summer. 

"As for stepping out from PRIEST before the tour, I stand by my original official statement on the matter. 

"Although I am not there, I wish for the name JUDAS PRIEST to forever be triumphant. 

"I have no doubt the 'Epitaph' tour is sensational. I therefore urge you all again not to miss out this one, so please give your best support one more time to the mighty PRIEST."

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Eternal Betrayer from Friday, June 24, 2011 11:29:43 AM)
[Head banger] Friday, July 01, 2011 8:28:53 AM 
just remember also that the price the CD sells for is a long way from the profits the band gets a cut of.  I dont know about CD's but most retail products have a store markup of 100%.  that pays the retailer.  now your talking a disk that sony sells for $7.5 to 12.5  they have to make the damn thing and ship it to stores.  still profitable if they move enough.  is it worth marketing.  probably if it belongs to some flavour of the month
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[Nupe The Ripper] Friday, July 01, 2011 6:49:08 AM 
Well yeah, with 250 000 illegal downloads, and with the average price of a CD being around 15 to 25 dollars, the total loss would be about four to five million dollars.

But then you have to remember how much of the CD's price goes to the band itself. With a major label, such as Sony which is Priest's label at the moment, even the biggest bands would be lucky to get ten percent of the profits. The rest goest to the label (about half), management, marketing and other costs, not to mention the reseller's own profit margin. So all in all the band itself has lost about three to five hundred thousand dollars - it's still a big sum, but nothing as near what the total sales price would be. So when record companies and copyright organizations speak loudly that "illegal downloading makes the artists lose money", they're lying quite much in that as they're only worrying about their own profits. Touring and merchandising is what really gives the bands a lot of profit these days.

That is not to say that I condone illegal downloading myself. I've downloaded many bands myself, including Priest, but I've always bought the albums afterwards. I still wan't to give the artist something from making such great music, even when it's just ten percent of the actual purchase price.

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by hellrider 31038 from Wednesday, June 29, 2011 9:14:22 PM)
[.] Thursday, June 30, 2011 5:45:19 PM 
Ian Hill is a lion who doesn't fear risk.

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by hellrider 31038 from Thursday, June 30, 2011 4:47:19 PM)
[hellrider 31038] Thursday, June 30, 2011 4:47:19 PM 

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by . from Thursday, June 30, 2011 1:45:27 AM)
[.] Thursday, June 30, 2011 1:45:27 AM 
 Makes no sense, Hellrider.

What about the millions tied up in the tour that was in danger of falling through? Because this tour would not have happened had Priest not found a replacement for KK and the contractors and sub-contractors and all that circus shit was already settled; all that money would have been lost.

We don't know exactly what  the type of issues were between him and management. It's hard to throw guilt around when none of the parties says anything specific.

If he doesn't tour with Priest purely because of his golf course, then I wished that KK was able to delegate some of the responsibilities of managing his place to someone he trusts to run it for a few months longer, and give me the pleasure of seeing him play one last time. Micromanaging takes more of a toll on your business than choosing the right staff to run it. He should be worried about PR only. 
But then I can be wrong, like I'm usually wrong. 

[hellrider 31038] Wednesday, June 29, 2011 9:14:22 PM 



A 3 AXE ATTTTTAAAACCCCKKKKKKKK Edited at: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 9:16:24 PM
Edited at: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 9:33:27 PM
[Eternal Betrayer] Wednesday, June 29, 2011 11:02:16 AM 
[Phil 18373] Sunday, June 26, 2011 3:38:16 PM 
KK should be there for the fans. Not appearing in the last tour over the reasons he gave is a slap in the face of all fans! 
[.] Friday, June 24, 2011 3:14:37 PM 
 If KK really has trouble playing guitar due to his wrist injuries, then his game of golf must be real bad right now and now is the time to beat his ass on the green. I'm sure Glenn knows best about what he says and I'm just reading all the information available to me from the internet, anyway. 

If Ian says that KK doesn't want to do anything in metal anymore, I have to believe him. However, KK supports a local band called Hostile, and IF I'm not mistaken, he co-wrote(?) a song called "Addiction". Seems like KK also likes to visit and support his metal buddies Dio's Disciples. KK's Finnish team will have a bunch of festival updates for me to read and enjoy learning about on KK's website. 

Perhaps what Mr. Downing wants to do is simply to sit back and relax and enjoy his life without having to go on tour with Priest. I think he just wants to live in his own schedule on his own terms. 

[joedraper] Friday, June 24, 2011 11:39:25 AM 
Woo! That's pretty much telling it like it is in my books...
Thansk for sharing x

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Eternal Betrayer from Friday, June 24, 2011 11:29:43 AM)
[Eternal Betrayer] Friday, June 24, 2011 11:29:43 AM 
"Believe it, or believe it not!":     The latest comments from the band - Metal Hammer, July 2011:

(on KK's announcement)

IAN - "Disagreements between members of the band? That never happened before with us - ha! To Be honest, when you're in a band as long as we've been this sort of thing always happens. In the past, though, we've always got over such issues."

ROB - "We had no clue beforehand that KK felt this way. I recall exactly how I felt when he broke the news. It was as if the floor had opened & swallowed me. My mind was going off like a box of fireworks."

"We'd all agreed this was the way it should be (the last tour). But (it was) his voice that was loudest. I wouldn't say he was behind the plan, but he seemed keener than the rest of us."

GLENN - "I think part of the problem was that he'd had a few injury problems, with his wrist in particular. But it was still something that none of us expected."

ROB - "None of us understood why he was doing this. We were all stunned. I remember lying awake that night, wondering what had happened, why things were going so wrong. But I think Glenn, Ian & I all felt that it would blow over, KK would change his mind & we'd get back on track."

IAN - "That's the reason we never announced this in the first place. We all went round to see him, all phoned him & did our best to persuade him to come back."
GLENN - "We wanted to give him as much time as we could. In the end we came close to messing everything up, because we gave him too much time. There was never the slightest indication from KK that he might come back, but we held on to the notion that he must return. It couldn't all end like this."

ROB - "My initial reaction was that it was over for Priest. It surely was the end, as we couldn't go on without KK. But then it dawned on me that this band is a lot bigger than any one member; we had to carry on."

GLENN - "We had a meeting & a choice to make. Either we stopped Judas Priest right now, or we looked for a new guitarist. Thankfully, all of us agreed that we owed it to ourselves & the fans to carry on."

(& on KK returning)

IAN - "He's not coming back. I've talked to him a lot recently & I know he has no interest in doing anything in music again. This won't come up. It's over."

GLENN - "The door will never be shut on him. If KK says he's up for a reunion, then we'll never dismiss it."

ROB - "I would welcome him with open arms. I know it would be difficult for Richie, but... when I returned [in 2003], Ripper graciously handed me the microphone & bowed out."

Edited at: Friday, June 24, 2011 11:39:48 AM
[Doubting Thomas] Friday, June 24, 2011 9:22:46 AM 
SO YOU STARTED THIS *&^%$  #$%[email protected] !!!!!!

Wise Old WWOL. It sounds as if you are giving up on KK coming back and accepting Richie Rich.

I'm glad you have kids and I hope you tell them ..."when you look up to the left side of the stage think of KK and what might have been".

Let your children know that this is not  true Judas Priest but an incredible simulation... kinda like Beatlemania.

Let them know and instruct them to pray very hard at night... for KK to return to the band, his band, JUDAS the near future.

Let them also know that we are all Victims of Changes and JP Management needs to extend the olive branch to KK.

Finally, if your children and you see people with eye patches covering their left eye and chanting KK... they are just angry because they can't play golf like Sir Lord KK Downing of the STEEL MILL.

I too have come to the point of entry... I will see the show when it comes to my town... I will be in front of the entrance with all the Jesus Bible thumpers preaching..."Repent your sins and turn from false profits and Richie Rich".

Of course, like all hypocrites.... once the smoke clears and the people enter the concert... I will sneak in the back of the stage and see Rob scream... "Under Blood Red Skkkkkkkkkkkyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyysssssssssssssssssssssss"

Edited at: Friday, June 24, 2011 9:25:11 AM
[wwol] Thursday, June 23, 2011 10:38:25 PM 
Thank You all for sharing. I started this topic a couple of months ago and now that some time has passed I have to say that I just want to see the show. If you told me 25 years ago they'd be touring in 2011, I wouldn't have believed it. The reality is,,,,,,,,,, from now until the day I die i will have only one oppurtunity to see Priest live with my kids,,,,,,,,, I'm still bummed out about KK but all I'm thinking about is:  When is Priest coming to my area? When can I get tickets?
[kman1759] Tuesday, June 21, 2011 7:41:20 PM 
I am disapointed to hear that K.K Downing left the tour, I would have rather seen the completed band(if they come down to East New England). It is a good thing that the rest of the members have continued to tour with Richie Faulker, who looks a lot like K.K.
[ninjagixed] Sunday, June 19, 2011 3:02:06 AM 
[.] Thursday, June 16, 2011 5:56:51 PM 
 This is a nice photo!! A full house!
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[MikeSinclair21] Thursday, June 16, 2011 5:12:56 PM 
Super psyched about PRiest touring the states again!  I'm getting tickets tomorrow!
[I'mtellin'you] Thursday, June 16, 2011 3:56:27 PM 
Hey from behind it looks like Glenn got KK's black pants as a parting gift and Richie Rich was given Glenn's red belt pullover with red striped sweater and red heel lifts to match. I don't care what they say...that Glenn is a giver!
[buddie] Thursday, June 16, 2011 12:04:53 PM 
The below picture will be on the link.... THE RICHIE RICH MONTHS (next to) THE RIPPER YEARS 
[You Don't Know What It's Like!] Thursday, June 16, 2011 11:31:46 AM 
I love how everyone looks like a short-arse when standing next to Scott! (& doesn't Richie look like KK from behind too.)

Edited at: Thursday, June 16, 2011 11:34:05 AM
[.] Thursday, June 16, 2011 2:45:02 AM 
 I am not terribly familiar with Vader. I am an ocasional listener of Vader (it's been literally years since I heard any of their stuff) but they kick ass live and I wish I was there enjoying the beer, the show, headbanging and having an overall good time. 

Edit: But I'll be sure to check out that live in Warsaw stuff.

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[The Metallian] Wednesday, June 15, 2011 7:50:39 PM 
I got the DVD: "And Blood Was Shed In Warsaw",awesome me and my friend watched it the other night!

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by . from Wednesday, June 15, 2011 6:46:46 PM)
[.] Wednesday, June 15, 2011 6:46:46 PM 
 This is Vader in my home country just days ago at the GDL metal festival.

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by The Metallian from Wednesday, June 15, 2011 6:07:41 PM)
[The Metallian] Wednesday, June 15, 2011 6:07:41 PM 

Awesome i love Vader.

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by . from Wednesday, June 15, 2011 5:30:29 PM)
[.] Wednesday, June 15, 2011 5:30:29 PM 
 I know, I would rather hear the original but that is not what is presently going on and I fall really easy into whining about shit I can't change so I'm looking at this in a way trying to make the best of reality and all the other Priest members are giving their best on stage.

 Some live heavy metal music will get me into the spirit. I'm going to listen to some Vader. I haven't heard them in ages. 

And I have to tell you one thing: No, Richie doesn't look at all like KK, because KK is very handsome and has an elegant demeanor while Richie in comparison looks butch. 

In terms of playing, KK has had 40+ years of practice, while Richie has had what? 20, if he started at 10 or 11 yo. 

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by icomearoundnow from Wednesday, June 15, 2011 4:29:20 PM)
[guidogodoy] Wednesday, June 15, 2011 4:41:50 PM 
Hmmmm....curious choice in words: "semester." Usually refers to an academic year.

Soooo, you are a very hairy female college student! I feel SOOO deceived!

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by . from Wednesday, June 15, 2011 3:12:49 PM)
[icomearoundnow] Wednesday, June 15, 2011 4:29:20 PM 

Ritchie Faulkner is 31. When KK was 31 he had just made
'British Steel'
The fact that he looks like KK is also a bit cheeky innit?
Drink the Kool Aid guys, this is crass pandering at its most cynical.
What's sad is KK was getting better with age, I would much rather hear the
wisdom of the ages in KK's playing than the mimmickry of Faulkner's
And the other guy in the red corner is the best rock guitarist on the planet
and KK still could do some things he could not.

[.] Wednesday, June 15, 2011 3:21:03 PM 
 Surely different. 

To say one is better than the other right now doesn't feel right to me, but you're the one who went to the show. Richie is the one on stage right now, so in that respect he is better. 

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Shipin from Wednesday, June 15, 2011 1:55:18 PM)
[.] Wednesday, June 15, 2011 3:12:49 PM 

And speaking of venting: now that KK Downing link is gone from here, do we really have to be content with Glenn Tipton's? 

I was wondering who died that he added updates on his webpage this semester. .....

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[Shipin] Wednesday, June 15, 2011 1:55:18 PM 
I was sceptical until I saw Judas Priest live yesterday in Oslo, but Richie Faulkner is better than K.K! 
He make alot of show and play like the other metal gods. I like the "new" priest better :D

Rock on \m/
[Brian_Evans] Wednesday, June 15, 2011 1:15:54 PM 
 I guess everyone has to vent somewhere ...that's one of the reasons for a message board. 
[.] Wednesday, June 15, 2011 2:24:32 AM 
 Dude, no one besides the people directly involved know exactly what happened and who's to blame but all sides involved decided they wouldn't publicly say why . I am - or actually was - very pissed off and shocked at the way they separated. Hell yeah.
Like one of those divorces that are very sour and the children feel helpless between the warring sides. 

But you can't let that detract from the fact that there is this amazing NEW guitarist with Priest. 

I think I am liking the management even with the crappy announcements. 

If it pisses you guys off, I'm all for it!!!

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[spapad] Tuesday, June 14, 2011 9:27:58 PM 
STFU you big fat baby. Life is what it is.

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[nostril] Tuesday, June 14, 2011 8:56:21 PM 

                      JUDAS PRIEST MANAGEMENT!!


[palani21] Friday, June 03, 2011 5:16:46 PM 
This is a downer...KK is as much Priest as Glenn and Rob....Bummmed. Glad I saw them in thier prime back on the  Defenders Tour with Ted Nugent in Germany. Will be stoked t see at The Joint in Vegas
[.] Friday, June 03, 2011 5:02:39 PM 
 There are a lot of rumours going on. I can't believe that management would insist on KK touring if he is hurt, and I can't see how him being hurt would cause a war of words between anybody.

[icomearoundnow] Friday, June 03, 2011 3:51:12 PM 
I got from a good source that the whole thing was due to a business disagreement with management. I also noticed that KK is mixed too low on "Touch of Evil Live"..which is shocking and appalling. JP on Idol was fine with me, I'm still mad they didn't get 'Reckless' on Top Gun..
[Eternal Betrayer] Wednesday, June 01, 2011 2:58:43 PM 
You sound like you have some inside info on this Mr. Luxton. I wasn't aware that KK had wrist injuries or that the other band members were messing around thinking that he would come back etc.
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[Jon"JudasPriest"Luxton] Wednesday, June 01, 2011 8:13:36 AM 
If KK didn't fancy touring the world again then so be it.  I was so shocked that he was probably the last member of the band to want to retire.  However, if he's had wrist injuries and he can't get the enthusiasm for the tour then this is the best thing.  The other guys were messing around cos they couldn't believe he meant it and would come back.  Then they had to decide what to do, they would probably have lost a lot of money if they just finished the band there and then and if they really do want to carry on then great.  It will depend on how Richie fits into the band because if there too many problems then they will just call it a day.  I like the idea of someone like Tony Iommi touring with the band but it probably wouldnt have worked long term and this way the band many be able to carry on for a few more years yet.  Lets wish them all the best of luck and look forward to a great tour.
[Eternal Betrayer] Wednesday, May 25, 2011 4:08:12 PM

Report & footage from the recent Los Angeles press conference.
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