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[J.D. DIAMOND] Sunday, May 29, 2011 4:30:46 PM 
Not sure if  that   provides "more" clarity at all with regard to the concept album "Nostradamus" but its something we've already read and yes its interesting.

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[\~AuntieB~/] Sunday, May 29, 2011 12:24:27 PM 
I'm trying not to beet a dead horse.  But I think the following provides more clarity / discussion with regard to the concept album "Nostradamus" (exerpt from the Blabbermouth interview):

On the musical and lyrical direction of JUDAS PRIEST's new material:

Tipton: "It's quite a mixed bag. Really, there's more sentiment on this album. In a way, I suppose, it's also our farewell album, although it might not be our last one. There are some anthems on there, which pay tribute to our fans; it's our fans of saying thank you and the lyrics relate to that, it's saying thank you to the fans for all the years."

Halford: "I think what really is important is that we still have this desire, this passion — it doesn't diminish in nearly 40 years; we still have this tremendous love for what we do in
heavy metal music and the fans that have supported us are a constant inspiration. And I think we all agree that as much as we were very happy with the way [the JUDAS PRIEST concept album] 'Nostradamus' came out — that was a great moment for us, because we had been waiting forever to make this concept album — that's not the end with 'Nostradamus'. We have other ideas that we wanna explore later. But wanted to make, at least, as Glenn said, one more great metal album that really has all the great traditions and attributes of PRIEST in the music, and we think we've got that down, pretty much."

[Eternal Betrayer] Wednesday, May 25, 2011 4:09:04 PM

Report & footage from the recent Los Angeles press conference.
[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Tuesday, May 17, 2011 11:07:50 PM 
Yes, it seems that this was his plan for a very long time. I had never read the interview that you mentioned about him retiring at 60, but I did know that Astbury has always been his dream to finish. It looks as if it is almost finished now and his dream has finally been realized. I wish him all the best life has to offer! I hope we are all this lucky in life, to fulfill our dreams that we have worked all our lives for!

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[spapad] Tuesday, May 17, 2011 10:10:14 PM 
Ok, so if I ever win the lotto, we shall asault the greens of Astbury! lol  Should be a sad sight.

Nupe, great interview. Seems to me KK did have his mind made up long ago. He's retired and I wish him the best of luck in his life and his estate. He always had  this in mind.

In speaking at a court against Sarah Lissimore who sued him for intrest in his estate, his answer was:

“Everything I do and every penny I have goes towards the estate, it is my passion, my pension, and my life.”

Pension. He said it then, and he meant it now.
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[acolyte55] Friday, May 13, 2011 4:26:26 PM 
absolutely ican !! need 1 more for the foresome  and a sober chauffer please!!
[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Friday, May 13, 2011 12:36:15 PM 
Will you help me too acolyte? I'm sure KK would greatly appreciate it, since otherwise his greens will be completely torn up! I'll need a BIG eraser too, the JUMBO kind, LOL!

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[acolyte55] Friday, May 13, 2011 12:09:41 PM 
i'll go with you spapad, im not to shabby a golfer and i can help you along with some tips like" foot wedging" and" throwing ball out from long grass" or even " make sure your pencil has an eraser on it "  all can help you score better, LOL 
[Becks] Friday, May 13, 2011 11:32:37 AM 
Thanks for this Nupe - I always enjoy reading what Rob has to say, he is so talkative you always get plenty of info LOL!

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[Nupe The Ripper] Friday, May 13, 2011 6:05:16 AM

On K.K. Downing's statement that his departure from JUDAS PRIEST was brought on in part by "an ongoing breakdown in [the] working relationship between [him], elements of the band, and the band's management":

Halford: "Well, I'm sure you've been around a lot of bands in your life as a journalist and I'm sure you've heard a lot of stories about the creative differences that happen in a group, and you always overcome them. It's not easy being in a band; it's a very difficult, temperamental machine, because you're dealing with very emotional people, very talented people, and so you have your ups and your downs. I think that in the light of all of the excitement and the confusion over the last few weeks, a lot of the things have been kind of distorted out of the fact. I don't really know why K.K. said what he said in his press release. I think maybe K.K. himself was feeling very emotional and very kind of… I don't know… maybe retrospective about all of the things that have been going on in PRIEST for the last few years. . . If you go onto his web site today, he put up a new press release and he says, you know, he's had a great time and he's not feeling bitter, he's not feeling in any other way than feeling just very satisfied and complete that he's done all the things that he wants to do. And I think that's great. I think K.K.'s really answered a lot of questions for a lot of people. But I think it was unfair to single out the bandmembers and I think it was unfair to single out management as the reason why he left, because it was more than that. And so there you go. We're all separate, individual people that all have lives to live and all have different needs and choices to be made, and this is the one that K.K.'s gone with. And we love him dearly; he'll always be in the spirit of JUDAS PRIEST. We wish things were different, but they're not, so we have to look forward and be positive and be excited about the shows that we're gonna do and a great new guitar player, Richie. JUDAS PRIEST is not just one person, JUDAS PRIEST is the whole experience, and we've always felt that way. Even when I was away from the band, JUDAS PRIEST carried on. So this is what we're gonna do — we're gonna be strong and we're gonna put on some powerful shows and we're gonna celebrate and have some great metal experiences together again."

On why K.K. couldn't wait until after the "Epitaph" tour to leave the band:

Halford: "It's a great question. I can't answer it. You have to get in touch with K.K. and ask him that question, 'cause I can't answer it. I think we've tried to be as honest and as straightforward as we can be on both sides of the discussion, and it is very emotional. I mean, you could just as easily [have asked] that same question — which you may have done — when I was away from the band, and Ripper, my good friend Ripper, was holding the mic for me. You just have to carry on. I think more than anything, it's just kind of difficult, 'cause it's a farewell tour. Why is it happening now? Well, you've got no control over life, have you? [Laughs] You can't control life and these things happen. So you just have to accept them and see what your options are. So that's the way it is. Of course, it will never be the same without K.K., like I'm sure a lot of people said it was never the same without me. But you can't just grind to a halt, you can't just stop everything — that would be ridiculous. We have obligations to our fans and to promoters and to everybody else, and to our record company, and we wanna fulfill them and be professional and do the right thing, which is what I think we are doing."

On how he feels personally about K.K.'s departure from the band:

Halford: "I just feel very sad that this whole episode has taken place at the time that it has. I think that we're all dealing with it differently. I love Ken like a brother; we've been in each other's lives for over 40 years. And we're all still good friends; that's the important thing. It doesn't matter about the breakdown in the communication or the creative differences; that's just part of being in a band. The friendship and the caring for each other, that doesn't go away. It should never go away. Because we've been through too much together and you can't let differences of opinion over different incidents and different moments, you can't let that affect your long-term-standing relationship, business-wise and personal-wise, you can't let that get destroyed; that would be a terrible thing to do. So you just respect each other, you respect each other's choices and you respect each other's decisions. And I'm sure that at some point K.K. will probably want to be a little bit more open about his reasons for departing PRIEST; that's entirely up to K.K. We've made it clear that we're not speaking for K.K.; we can only speak for ourselves and what we need to do. So there you go — that's about as much as we can really offer to the press and to our fans at this point."

Edited at: Friday, May 13, 2011 6:05:47 AM
[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Thursday, May 12, 2011 8:19:54 PM 
I'm all for the mini putt putt course!!! He could blast Priest tunes through the speakers. Hell, I'd never leave!

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[spapad] Thursday, May 12, 2011 7:08:05 PM 
I'm ready for the Margaritas! and if I ever win the lotto, (which I don't play) I'm going to Astbury to play a round of golf and wave about 10 pairs to play through since it should take me most of the day!  I can actually do drives fairly decent but the little things after that like putting 20 feet, just kill me.

Do you think he would consider a mini putt putt course? Whomever putts the ball on hole 18 into the peacock nest wins a free round? LOL We could log some serious time there. lol Then go to the clubhouse and champagne toast a hole in one on the putt putt course. HA!! 

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[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Thursday, May 12, 2011 6:59:55 PM 
I hadn't heard that before. It seems that he has stuck to his plan. I wish him all the best. I think it's ignorant of all these trolls posting that KK was forced out of the band when it is obvious that this is his personal choice to retire now. It is everyone's right to choose when they will retire and this is no different. He has accomplished what he set out to do and he can retire in peace. I wish him all the best in the world and someday, I want to go golfing on his golf course (if you can call what I do "golfing"! LMAO! Maybe I'll just drive around in the cart and drink!) The rest of the guys are not ready to retire just yet and that is their decision to make. After reading Ian's and Rob's comments, I now know that nothing is going to change what happened because this was not a fight that caused the band to breakup.

I can't wait for the tour to come to the US so we metalheads can all get together and drink some margaritas!!!

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[spapad] Thursday, May 12, 2011 6:46:29 PM 
Ages ago, KK set in motion his plan for what he wanted to do with his retirment. His resort is open and doing well, he is comming up on 60, which back in the 80s he stated in an interview that if he was lucky enough to play that long he wished to retire at 60, (when I read that at about 17 years old, I thought wow 60, now that's old!) Does not look like his plans ever wavered.  Too bad we all don't plan for the future that well.

No sense in wishing for something that will definately not happen. I wish him well in his new life as a retiree with all the time in the world to dedicate to his personal pursuits.

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[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Thursday, May 12, 2011 5:47:18 PM 
I don't know if KK has been holding them back, but it sure seems like there is nothing that can be done about this situation. KK simply doesn't want to do this anymore. They tried to get him to stay and he doesn't want to. He wasn't forced out. He needs to live his life the way he wants to.

Maybe the album will kick ass and maybe it won't. We won't know until we hear it. I'm sure it won't have the twin axe attack quality that every other album had. That is something that I will really miss. But maybe it will be a kick ass metal album. I agree, it doesn't have to top Sad Wings, British Steel or Painkiller to be a kick ass album!

For me, I'd rather Priest keep going with 4 of the 5 members than for them to just fade away into retirement!!!

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[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Thursday, May 12, 2011 5:41:46 PM 
Yeah Becks, when Ian speaks, I always listen because he doesn't do it very often. It's good to get some other sides to this. It sounds like KK just doesn't want to do it anymore and all the guys tried to do everything to get him to stay. I wish everyone saying that KK was forced out would shut the hell up already!!! NO ONE can do anything about this if KK simply doesn't want to do this anymore.

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[J.D. DIAMOND] Thursday, May 12, 2011 3:54:43 PM 
How Ian mentioned that K.K. had lost the enthusiasm to keep going makes us wonder if K.K. has been holding the band back from creating another album after Nostradamus?  The band are obviously recording a new album due out next year and K.K. lost his enthusiasm?

  Wow,if this next album is kick ass with great quality then its a blessing in disguise that K.K. left the band.  I know the sound/guitar duo will not be like Downing and Tipton of old,it will not be the old school Judas Priest with K.K.'s signature guitar sound,but at this point in time I don't care in the least,I'm glad they replaced K.K. because I want to see Judas Priest continue without him.

The new album won't top classics like Sad Wing,British Steel or Painkiller but does it really have to top them to be a kick ass quality record? Not in my eyes.  Richie Faulkner at this point is the best thing that has happened to Judas Priest since after the release of Angel Of Retribution.  Also notice that Rob and Glenn changed the Judas Priest logo back to the normal one,that alone is a sign of good things to come.

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[Becks] Thursday, May 12, 2011 1:47:03 PM 
Great stuff HRMG, cool to hear what Ian has to say considering he'sso often pretty quiet lol.

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[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Wednesday, May 11, 2011 10:44:14 PM 
Ian Hill's comments about KK and the Epitaph tour:

JUDAS PRIEST bassist Ian Hill recently spoke to Germany's Metal Hammer magazine about the departure of the band's founding member Kenneth "K.K." Downing and the group's latest addition, 31-year-old British guitarist Richie Faulkner (LAUREN HARRIS, DIRTY DEEDS).

On Richie Faulkner:

"He was recommended to us by a mutual friend.

"For those fans who are concerned that we will no longer sound like PRIEST [without K.K.], you can put your minds at rest. Richie Faulkner is a fabulous guitarist and the perfect replacement for K.K. Downing. You will miss nothing from the show and the sound."

On K.K. Downing:

"We have done everything in our power to persuade Ken to stay in the band. He no longer had the enthusiasm to keep going."

On the forthcoming "Epitaph" farewell tour:

"We are looking forward to it. We have a great show, a great set list and a very good new guitar player. "

On whether "Epitaph" is really JUDAS PRIEST's final tour:

"I don't think these will be our last-ever performances. But there will be no more two-year tours after this. However, we still have a lot of touring ahead of us, and if anyone asks us — why shouldn't we continue playing?"

A promise for the fans:

"Rob Halford is still able to sing all the songs as before."

JUDAS PRIEST has been focusing on the forthcoming tour — doing press, photos, sorting out stage sets, special effects, and stage clothes etc. In addition, the bandmembers have started music rehearsals this week so are now poised and getting ready to roll. According to a posting on the group's official web site, "everyone is looking forward to travelling round the world again with the PRIEST machine!"

JUDAS PRIEST's "Epitaph" world tour will kick off on June 7 in Tilburg, Holland.

Downing issued a statement last month regarding his departure from the legendary heavy metal group on the eve of its farewell tour. Downing said, "It is with much regret that I will not be with you this summer. Thank you all from the bottom of my heart for your concerns about my health. Please rest assured that I am OK. There has been an ongoing breakdown in (the) working relationship between myself, elements of the band, and the band's management for some time. Therefore I have decided to step down rather than to tour with negative sentiments as I feel that this would be a deception to you, our cherished fans. However, I would urge you to please support the PRIEST as I have no doubt that it will be a show not to be missed."

Singer Rob Halford told French magazine Rock Hard, "K.K. leaving was his own decision, for the reasons he made public on his web site. . . K.K. has his own life to live and we can't force him to do anything he doesn't want to do."

Regarding Faulkner's addition to JUDAS PRIEST, Halford said, "K.K. can never be replaced; he's unique, and we didn't want any kind of K.K. copycat. Richie Faulkner came to Glenn's [Tipton, guitar] house to jam, and Glenn simply told me he was absolutely brilliant."

Although PRIEST plans to stop touring after this run, the band will continue to record and intends to issue a new studio album in 2012.
[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Wednesday, May 11, 2011 5:49:29 PM 
Thank you so much Eternal Betrayer!!
I really hope that both sides can sit down and  talk and work it out. The Priest fans would like nothing better than to see KK on that stage on the Epitaph tour. Even though I support Priest in their decision to continue and will see the Epitaph tour, I will miss KK dearly and I really hope that something can be done to change his mind.

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