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[hellrider 31038] Monday, November 19, 2012 5:34:49 PM 
THE ONES I GOT YESTERDAY

AND I ALSO GOT A KEYCHAIN SPACE LAZER GUN WHILE I WAS THERE
SO DONT FUC? WITH ME.LOL
[Vaillant 3.0] Saturday, November 17, 2012 6:14:52 PM 
I love the whole experience of the cd,booklet,artwork and all that comes with it!

There's alot of cool stuff in the CD booklet that people who only download the music (legally or otherwise) end up missing. For example, the booklet in Motörhead's "The World is Yours" album contains some cool-looking and humorous sketches. And anyone who only downloaded Accept's "Blood of the Nations" album wouldn't know that all the band members have Type A blood.

...

Type A...

...

as in Type ACCEPT!


*bdm psh*

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by The Metallian from Saturday, November 17, 2012 4:14:34 PM)
[The Metallian] Saturday, November 17, 2012 4:14:34 PM 
I always buy CD's,i cannot stand to download it!
I love the whole experience of the cd,booklet,artwork and all that comes with it!
We had a record store here that i use to buy all my cds at and the guy that ran it said i was very rare person cause i still liked to buy cds!
He said ppl rather download stuff off the net etc etc!

Plus i am an album listener not a song,so i listen to albums as a whole from track 1 to the last track!
And i still listen to my cd discmann with me skullcandy headphones!

The only time i use mp3 player is workin out,going for a walk,travelling or riding the bus!
My friends laugh at me cause i don't have an ipod and all that other techie shit that the public seems to enjoy!
Fuck that shit,i'm old school!
Cheers everydbody!

Rock Hard Ride Free!
Buy a cd,ticket or a shirt,support your favorite bands!

[guidogodoy] Saturday, November 17, 2012 12:38:31 PM 
My original point was that downloading DID lead to me actually buying a CD. My point was that the system worked exactly as it should as I wouldn't have heard the whole CD any other way. However, I must say that I am an anomaly. The great majority illegally download thinking it "their right" to do so. The band somehow owes them as they supported them in the past. Certainly we've all heard of "bloodsucking record labels" that looks for any way to make money off a band. Bad contracts, poor percentage of "the take" of a show, etc. Now the model has flipped on its head. With relatively little production cost and with everyone with a little knowhow able to produce quality-sounding recordings in their home studios, the Industry now has to look for other means of replacing that lost revenue. Quickest way? Concert tickets, merchandise and food / drink in a concert. Bands are now on almost perpetual tours to make enough money to continue their line of work. Sadly, that is going to end up in the premature death of what might be a lot of good bands.
[Head banger] Saturday, November 17, 2012 11:28:23 AM 
the part I have the hardest time with is separating the band and the lable.  for say rockarolla thats easy, the band is gone from it.  but normaly its not that way
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Budred from Saturday, November 17, 2012 11:11:09 AM)
[Budred] Saturday, November 17, 2012 11:11:09 AM 
OK but the thing is, I never said I owned the rights and I didn't say his logic was (legally correct), I said I was trying to find
fault with his logic and couldn"t. As far as stealing music goes I could care less who approves or disapproves. The recording
industry is full of millionaires who got that way by overcharging the masses for their product and now I have a chance to get
some of that back, fuck yeah I'm going to. Also, I do still support bands that I like. I still buy cd's and I still go to concerts, so
it's not like I steal everything with no give back. I also made the same argument about (borrowing) as you did. Sometimes
downloading does lead to future sales. I downloaded every MRH except one called M3 and now own every disc.(bought)

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Head banger from Saturday, November 17, 2012 6:28:38 AM)
[Head banger] Saturday, November 17, 2012 6:40:31 AM 
actualy, 2 of my boots were downloaded direct from robhalford.com back in the day.  tucson 82 and i forget the other one.  now, did rob have permission from the band, or whatever he needed to record them.  dont know.  not sure if those are legal, but since priest never sold those shows, or the others I traded for i guess it doesnt mater much. 
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Head banger from Saturday, November 17, 2012 6:28:38 AM)
[Head banger] Saturday, November 17, 2012 6:28:38 AM 
every concert I have ever been to prohibits recording.  well except the privatly heald one in a field by a garage band that managed once to get a gig in a bar.  well, no at one metalica show they sold special tickets for recording, audio and video in a pit.  they did say you cant sell those.  probably didnt care if they were traded.  but any priest boots I have were recorded ilegaly. 

DC, BUD no, you dont own the worldwide rights, you own the right to have your copy.  Now if you lend it to a friend to listen to, whatever, its probably ilegal, certainly not enforcable and I wouldnt view it as wrong.  now if you and a friend agree to give each other a copy of every CD, and come up with a strategy to only buy one CD between the 2 of you (or 10 or thousands like the FTP services) well thats wrong.  but a loan.  I lent out metolagy to a kid I know.  he bought the whole priest colection that he could find.  that helped the band. 

DF, if this gets any higher brow, you may have to pluck your brows to stop them mixing with your hairline
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Friday, November 16, 2012 9:47:52 PM)
[guidogodoy] Friday, November 16, 2012 9:47:52 PM 
Shouldn't you be off playing some gig (where a kid can certainly record you and give as gifts unless strictly prohibited by band or venue)? LOL!!

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Friday, November 16, 2012 8:46:23 PM)
[Deep Freeze] Friday, November 16, 2012 8:46:23 PM 
I just love "high brow" conversations!!! HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
[guidogodoy] Friday, November 16, 2012 6:42:39 PM 
No. Technically you are not the complete "owner" of it. You do not own the intellectual property rights nor copyright to it. You basically bought a license for private, personal use. It is not "yours" to give as a gift.

Nice theory, though. You best read up on RIAA law while you can. I don't think you'll be able to access a computer once they finish with you. www.riaa.com/physicalpiracy.php

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by DemonCat from Friday, November 16, 2012 11:39:08 AM)
[Brian_Evans] Friday, November 16, 2012 1:46:37 PM 
 Right on man, peer-to- peer file sharing.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by DemonCat from Friday, November 16, 2012 11:39:08 AM)
[Budred] Friday, November 16, 2012 1:34:16 PM 
I'm trying to find fault with your logic but I can't.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by DemonCat from Friday, November 16, 2012 11:39:08 AM)
[DemonCat] Friday, November 16, 2012 11:39:08 AM 
My response to the anti-piracy warning issued by the FBI is this: I bought the cd, dvd etc.  I'm the owner of it and all content on it. I therefore "authorize" myself to be able to share it with the world. I do so as a "gift".
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Friday, November 16, 2012 12:03:48 AM)
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[Head banger] Friday, November 16, 2012 8:07:59 AM 
IOW?  yes its lossy.  I have crappy speakers and listen at work, so its not at "real metal volume"

and yes, lets ignore what we did when we were 12.  those god awefull tapes made by holding a tape recorder beside the record player.....

and way back at the begining I said, if you paid for it once.  so, I have rocka rolla on cassete.  now I have no desire to own it on CD.  if I want to hear one song, youtube is there for that one time.  but to me, I paid for RR.  the band got paid, sony or whoever produced it got paid, gull mostly got paid.  maybe thats a bad example.  still its the reality.

if I wanted to buy a book, then manage to scan it onto my computer (asside from needing my head examined) I dont see an issue.  same with the DVD.  if I get it from the library or the video rental place, then yep, its an issue.


  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Friday, November 16, 2012 12:03:48 AM)
[Budred] Friday, November 16, 2012 1:10:07 AM 
I don't have anyone on ignore. I won't do that.
I ignore you when you try to entice me into a back and forth by not responding.

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Brian_Evans from Thursday, November 15, 2012 5:23:11 PM)
[guidogodoy] Friday, November 16, 2012 12:03:48 AM 
Ok, then. Despite the huge "FBI Anti-Piracy Warning: Unauthorized copying is punishible under federal law" that is stamped on the back of a cd by the Federal Bureau of Investigation / Department of Justice" you still think it is legal? Do you think the same of a DVD that you copy? How about a book? Would you lump them into the same category as a CD? Don't they, like the electric company, have fixed costs (machinery) plus static costs of distribution, artwork, etc., plus more dynamic costs such as Big Box store discounts, printing, etc.? While I am glad to hear that you paid for SFV, to be honest, your argument makes no sense to me.

Do you think that the production costs of making a DVD, video game, computer OS/software or music are so different? Sure, some cost more, some cost less. Moral is that they all COST. Would you steal a CD from a store? I hope not (at your age...we ignore what we did when we were younger...heh). What possible difference could you make between going into a store and stealing a CD vs. downloading an illegal copy? It is easier?! How about that DVD question. I have been in many a city were you can buy perfect pirate copies on the street. While I can buy it for pennies, is it right? Upstairs I have a couple of Rolex watches I bought in Brazil for about $10USD. Those are certainly fakes but it is a tangible good that someone (typically poor) took time to construct. I would never be able to afford (or want) a Rolex in any case. However, did I steal from Rolex because I bought a knock-off? No. I'd never EVER buy one. Downloading a CD, though, hits closer to home. Rolex won't go out of business because I bought a fake watch. A certain band might not be able to pay bills if their cds don't sell. Pay to support your favorite bands, is my point. The Justin B. / boyband machine will roll us otherwise.

Parting thought? When you "import" a store-bought CD to your harddrive using Media Player you are probably importing in WMV format. Lossy, IOW. No matter. If you legally own the recording, you are fine. The people who download without ever having once paid for the music are both engaging in illegal activities as well as damaging the genre of music we love. Low sales and those bands will go to no-name labels and then disappear. Bieber effect. Pop sells. Metal doesn't.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Head banger from Thursday, November 15, 2012 11:01:41 PM)
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[Head banger] Thursday, November 15, 2012 11:01:41 PM 
lets leave taxes out, because the government does very little with my money except fuck it all up.  your government has a similar record

but your arguments dont make sense to me.

The electric company has 3 costs. 
1. the wires to my house
2. the generating plant
3. the maintenance, fuel etc.

then I supose they have administration, managers, envelopes postage, dividends, etc

the first 2 you said are paid for, but they are amortized over a number of years.  the third is going to vary.

now on my bill, its actualy laid out this way, and its 3 companies, one to generate, one to transmit, and a third bills it all out.

compare that to say the 30th aniversary release of screaming, which I just bought.
the band recorded this 30 years ago.  minimal if any time spent touching it up.  the record company has some costs to print, market and distribute the disk.  Note I said I purchased the disk.  I did download Jugulator a while ago.  lost my original.

oh, and the copy protection, I have had one disc in over 10 years that windows media doesnt rip to the hard drive.  I dont do anything to defeat it.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Wednesday, November 14, 2012 11:10:07 PM)
[Brian_Evans] Thursday, November 15, 2012 5:23:11 PM 
 Wow ..didn't realize you had me on ignore ..oh well. One last thing, just ignore that guy about downloading ...he's just on a kick. 
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Budred from Monday, November 12, 2012 2:30:55 PM)
[guidogodoy] Wednesday, November 14, 2012 11:10:07 PM 
Following that logic, why would you pay your bills? Someone mows your lawn or, even better, the electric company that has already run lines to your house has very little actual expense. Don't pay them and it is just their lost revinue. Taxes, What does paying them get you? Will the government collapse if you don't pay? Of course not. Then again, you are speaking more of goods vs. services as all are examples of lost revinue.

Is a CD a good or a service? I think most would argue it is a good. Did people work long hours to produce it? Yes. You just don't see it like you do the person who cuts your lawn. Did people spend a lot of time, effort and talent to produce a CD? Certainly more than the guy that cuts lawns for a living. You just don't know them personally.

So, don't pay your electric bil or your taxes. After all, it is just a matter of lost revinue, isn't it?

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