I really think it's a "builder track". Like Hell Patrol which sits between Painkiller and All Guns Blazing, I think this track is a transition track between two in your face heavy metal tracks. I really like the song as is..... but on the album itself I am sure it will sound freaking bad ass just like Hell Patrol.
[icecreamman] Friday, November 15, 2013 11:39:26 AM
If you want Painkiller heres the link on Amazon http://www.amazon.com/Painkiller-Judas-Priest/dp/B0000630BT! I just want a classic heavy metal album.....
[icecreamman] Monday, November 04, 2013 3:55:52 PM
Fully agree J.D.! Painkiller is a wonderful album but it's not their only masterpiece. I can almost gurantee this album will be it folks, this for sure will be the final album. I just can't see this band making another album in 2018. As far the sound of the new album goes I will be looking for some great old school heavy metal, not really based off another album. This is a new line up and JP will alter their sound somewhat....
Well said HB. It actually grinds my gears how people think Iron Maiden changed things and were revolutionary blah blah - if you look back they came along at the right time with the right sound. Priest brought the metal to heavy metal years before Maiden decided to join the fun.
Head banger wrote:
no one needs a big wow album, ever. very few bands put out a true game changing album. they can still be a great band. lots of people love Megadeath, cant think of a game changer from them. heck, maiden might be the most popular (not to be confused with best) band out there, they changed nothing.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
According to white trash,Priest doesnt have to have a big "wow" album out every 2 years but Saxon and other bands are expected to? Sounds like the same ole run of the mill these last 8 years Head Banger & Guido eh....
I was on facebook and I went to a bandsite of an obscure band that I like.
I saw where someone had posted a video of either their band or a band they like that they want everyone to check out.
Then I went to Judas Priest's page
and there was the same video. Is it possible that this person could be a fan of "both" bands?(lol)
Yeah I know, probably just spamming everyone but the same video on both sites kind of surprised me. I mean no-one
in their right mind would like both of these bands right?
I have been posting up here for five years now, amd I complain very little. Yes I am only 22, but I have been a Priest fan for the great majority of my life. I own all the Priest DVD's, VHS's, and albums. I have supported this band for years, and I couldn't be any happier about new material! DO NOT SAY I HAVE BEEN UNFAITHFUL TO JUDAS PRIEST!
Guys you proved me wrong, and I am very happy about it! Sorry for being unfaithful! Metal Gods have mercy upon me! Ha ha, ah yes I am pumped for this album!
OH MY GOD! IT IS COMING! FINNALLY SOME NEWS! BLU-RAY! THEY HAVE ARRIVED IN THE 2013! ....... now HELLRIDER blow up the forum again! IT IS TIME!!!!!!!!!
[icecreamman] Thursday, February 14, 2013 12:12:35 PM
You know what.... We will have a need Defenders of the Faith 30th Anniversery remaster before we get a new album. Hell, we may have the Painkiller Anniversery album before then!
[icecreamman] Friday, January 18, 2013 10:33:35 AM
I am to the point were I believe there is no new album..... I am starting to believe they are done period. Priest are still my favorite band but..... things have been down lately.
So with the tour done... what now? Could their be a chance we get the album the year? Yeah I know its unlikely, but its possible. Who knows right. We could get it 5 years now!
I must admit THIS is hilarious!!!!!!!!!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by hellrider 31038 from Friday, March 30, 2012 7:21:10 PM)
hellrider 31038 wrote:
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Naysayer? I think I'm gonna love the new LP,if its in the vein of Painkiller and not Retribution I'll be just as happy,I love the Painkiller LP always have,but if its in the vien of Retribution like Ian Hill says it is then I'll be just as happy Brain,if its in the vien of British Steel and Screaming For Vengeance mixed with Painkiller I'll be happy.
There are tons of combinations that will make me happy,its " YOU AND HELLRIDER" are the ones who are counting on this LP to be one way,screaming guitars and screaming vocals. If they write a track like Desert Plains or Pain And Pleasure you both will cry like babies. Its the two of YOU that are stacking up the odds against a perfect Painkiller album.
I never said it will 100% definately be one way or the other,go back and read my posts. If you and Hellrider actually do like this new album I will be utterly shocked,utterly "shocked". This new album will be for fans like myself,Guido,spapad,Head Banger,HRMG,Becks,Vail,and other elite members here,I'm sure we will like the majority of the new album,at least 8 songs out of 10 I figure.
The two of you are waling on thin ice hoping this album will be a Painkiller or a certain stupid swagger that only you seem to understand because of how retarded you are. Prepare to be disappointed ha.
Brian_Evans wrote:
Yeah man the new Priest album is gonna smack the naysayers like Diamond square in the face just like your pic. below and then we will see what he has to say. He will be eating crow for years ...lol
lol! (Quoting Message by hellrider 31038 from Wednesday, March 28, 2012 4:54:58 PM) Edited at: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 5:20:03 PM
What in the hell is going on? What is it with all these stupid post? I have never had an ill word with any of the members you mentioned.
How about this:
TREAT OTHERS IN THE FORUM THE WAY YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE TREATED!!!!
Talking crap to some of the most respected members up here wont get you anywhere. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by HELL BENT FOR JUDAS from Friday, March 30, 2012 11:54:57 AM)
HELL BENT FOR JUDAS wrote:
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN!
ABOUT MY REFORM IDEAS!
I just want to reform this english language section!
Why is so important the reform?
1. Because i want to see much more JUDAS PRIEST fans here.
2. I want an exciting,creative funny and stately noticeboard which keeps the good fame of the JUDAS PRIEST.
3. I think some members insult others and offend the musicians of JUDAS PRIEST continously.
4.Some members try to provocate others. It's boring and pathetic!
5.Some monitorheads can't behave! They abuse others
(maybe this is their biggest orgasm!). This is a shame.
6. I have a golden rules: If you(especially Budred,JD DIAMOND("the wikipedia guy"),,Godoy with his/her lame body
and the horseheaded Spapad) behave well , I'll not "humiliate" them.
7. I don't like the coward Godoy's clones.
Don't forget this is a JUDAS PRIEST offical site! CAN YOU UNDERSTAND THIS???
JUST SAY A "petite" yes!
Dude I havent took a lesson in my whole life. Like J.D. I just started learning Priest songs and went from there.... [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Budred from Wednesday, May 11, 2011 4:01:10 AM)
Budred wrote:
I unlike some of you guys can't afford guitar lessons. Not to mention the gas to get there.
It would be a twenty mile drive.
I also work full time with varying schedules. I was just hoping someone
would clue me in on a good place to look to start teaching myself.
Glad you're concerned enough to ask though.
jimmyjames wrote:
Why not just go take guitar lessons?
Budred wrote:
Most people posting here seem to know quite a bit about guitars. I got one for christmas and I need to learn how
to play it. I Know an old man who is a country musician. He lowered the strings closer to the neck for me. He gave me
a "Bad Monkey" tube overdrive and a "Main Squeeze" compressor. I bought a Korg tuner and he showed me how to
tune my guitar. The only thing now is to start learning. Is their anyone here willing to help a newbie. I was hoping
someone here could suggest a site to teach me some "simple" things to practice and help myself get started. I've
never touched a guitar before so any advice has to be simplistic. Could anyone tell me what these pedals do. Any
advice or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I'm to old to become a musician but I've always wanted to play
a guitar. I don't expect to get great I just want to learn to play something. If you guys only want to talk to advanced players
it's all good. Thanks, regardless. Peace!
Glad to be here. Gone for two months and Hellrider blows up the place! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Wednesday, March 21, 2012 11:52:15 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Good to see you, Icecreamman. You are like most here. We ALL have Priest on various media!!! Official purchases, go figure. Hellrider has, indeed, lost it.
Don't spam the site with flaming letters repeating the same thing for months on end and I am sure that you'll always be welcome! LOL!!!
icecreamman wrote:
Well make sure not to include me on that bad fan list. I have bought all the priest albums on several different formats each. The metal gods get more of my paycheck than I do sometimes! Ha ha
What happened to the old Hellrider? The Hellrider who could post up here with out adding random vids of stuff blowing up? Its very sad to me. You used to be a very respected member, now all of us who respected you are getting spamed off this site. PLEASE HELLRIDER calm down and post like a normal human being. KK leaving was hard on all of us, but the COME BACK KK 3 AXE ATTACK, will not do anything. So please post like a human being again and all this will be forgotten. I do not want your account being banned, but you are leaving them no choice......
[icecreamman] Wednesday, March 21, 2012 11:38:54 PM
Well make sure not to include me on that bad fan list. I have bought all the priest albums on several different formats each. The metal gods get more of my paycheck than I do sometimes! Ha ha
THANK YOU GUYS! I HAVE A CHANCE TO SEE THE GREATEST HEAVY METL BAND EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by icecreamman from Sunday, August 14, 2011 11:27:39 AM)
icecreamman wrote:
YES COME TO NORTH CAROLINA! WE NEED SOME PRIEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
emoyag wrote:
Ok dudes, this is your chance to make an old geezer happy!! You will play in Winston-Salem Coliseum , North Carolina onSunday, Nov 27. If you could find it in your hearts to play RUN OF THE MILL from Rocka Rolla I could die happy. This is the BEST Priest song that I believe you guys have never played live. I can't find a version of it even in the earliest tapes from 75 on. What could make this show more memorable than playing RUN OF THE MILL??
As I quoted before: "What have you achieved now you're old?"-Well. come down here and show us!!!
HA! I thought he would! The only thing that prevents AOR from being higher up on the list is Roy Z's flat production. If it was an Allom produced album, well who knows. Hell Bent for Leather is so low becuase of the filler and becuase it has a great drop off of quality from its predecessor. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Sunday, August 14, 2011 8:32:01 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
I wish I could say the same about Judas Priest so I envy you. I have 12 Priest studio albums,I don't own Turbo,Jugulator,Demolition or Nostradamus. Those 4 albums bother me.Jugulator is the best out of all 4 but I hate Ripper Owens's voice so it ruins it for me. Priest has been my #1 favorite band since 1981 so yeah I envy you. Interesting list,however Painkiller under Retribution I think Hellrider could bust a spring lose if he sees it ha!
icecreamman wrote:
1. Stained Class
2. Defenders of the Faith
3.Sad Wings of Destiny
4.Sin After Sin
5. British Steel
6. Angel of Retribution
7. Screamning for Vengeance
8. Nostradamus
9.Ram it Down
10. Painkiller
11. Turbo
12.Point of Entry
13. Hell Bent for Leather
14.Jugulator
15. Rocka Rolla
16. Demolition
Really my list changes from day to day. I do not believe any of the Priest albums suck, and I do not hate any of them. Honestly any of the top 11 could have had the #1 spot. Judas Priest have an awesome catalouge of music.
YES COME TO NORTH CAROLINA! WE NEED SOME PRIEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by emoyag from Monday, August 08, 2011 5:01:42 PM)
emoyag wrote:
Ok dudes, this is your chance to make an old geezer happy!! You will play in Winston-Salem Coliseum , North Carolina onSunday, Nov 27. If you could find it in your hearts to play RUN OF THE MILL from Rocka Rolla I could die happy. This is the BEST Priest song that I believe you guys have never played live. I can't find a version of it even in the earliest tapes from 75 on. What could make this show more memorable than playing RUN OF THE MILL??
As I quoted before: "What have you achieved now you're old?"-Well. come down here and show us!!!
During all the years I am registered on this page i was following the news and discussions but
i did not post here since some years because i don´t understand some comments of so called “Fans”.
Why can´t some people accept the decisions of some band members ?
I also was shocked when I read this message because I also
think that Glenn and K.K. have been an unique guitar duo.
All album arrangements and great solo combinations, the unique and
the distinctively Priest sound are the result of this combination.
You are right when you say that Priest is not the same without K.K.
But: It is Kenneth´s life and it´s Kenneth´s decision to retire, not yours.
When I am unhappy with any situation, I try to change it.
Otherwise I can´t look in the mirror, so I respect his decision.
And: Ritchie is not K.K. , but he´s doing a great job.
I was also disappointed, when Rob left the Band, but Ripper was also
doing a great job and kept Priest alive.
There are so many discussions in this board I don’t understand.
About good or bad albums
I am 41 years old and a die-hard Priest fan since I was 12 years old !!!
And why ?
Because I see a development in the music from priest on every new album.
Every album is completely different to the other, but ever distinctive Priest.
I think one reason for this is, that Priest is not releasing a new album every 1 or to years. Mostly there was a long time between 2 Albums, a creative break.
When people say that RAM IT DOWN has been a bad move, or TURBO
has been only a commercial production I start laughing.
I am also a guitar player and maybe I see this from a different angle.
Turbo and Ram it down are great elaborated recordings.
And: Nostradamus was a Priest masterpiece with absolutely perfect arrangements.
Maybe some people were disappointed, for me as a musician it is great.
In Glenn´s solo albums I see the same.
It is logical that this doesn´t sound as Priest and
i am sure he did´nt do this to make money.
He did it to realize some own ideas and that´s right.
And Rob has realized his own ideas when he started a solo career.
I am very disappointed that this is the last tour because the guys
are over 60 years old, but they still have a lot of power and they
definitely don´t make a fool of themselves on stage.
And I am fully sad, that I am not able to see them on the last tour
because there were only 2 concerts in Germany, but far away from me.
I wishfully had the hope, to see them one final time in Frankfurt or Offenbach
and maybe to meet the guys backstage one more final time.
In 1997 I had this great honour to meet them for a sort moment to get my
Guitar signed by the band.
My greatest wish ever was to spend one day with them in their studio.
Maybe, I have this chance anytime when I visit London again.
For me, Priest was and still is a constant companion in my life.
So I am also sad about some changes but on the other side I am
more happy that Priest still is alive.
Do you think they are planning a new album because they need the money ?
I think they do it because they still love to make music and to be creative.
1. Stained Class
2. Defenders of the Faith
3.Sad Wings of Destiny
4.Sin After Sin
5. British Steel
6. Angel of Retribution
7. Screamning for Vengeance
8. Nostradamus
9.Ram it Down
10. Painkiller
11. Turbo
12.Point of Entry
13. Hell Bent for Leather
14.Jugulator
15. Rocka Rolla
16. Demolition
Really my list changes from day to day. I do not believe any of the Priest albums suck, and I do not hate any of them. Honestly any of the top 11 could have had the #1 spot. Judas Priest have an awesome catalouge of music.
Yeah the logo resembles the logo from the Painkiller era. Almost makes me wish they restore the "t" at the end. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Saturday, May 07, 2011 3:15:33 AM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Awsome new design for the forum and the Epitaph tour,K.K. will always be the spirit of Judas Priest but this isn't the end of the band,I think Richie Faulkner fits in perfectly and glad he is not holding a flying V. I really think that Judas Priest are going to suprise a lot of people with this next studio album I can't feel it and as I said before .....no it will not beat Sad Wings,Stained Class,British Steel,Screaming,Defenders or Painkiller but I think it will rival the rest of the discography and this is not worse than when Rob left the band,the new album will show what Priest are made of without K.K.,it may be so good that it might make K.K. come back to Priest.
HELL YEAH! Then Priest will come out to see a massive metal crazed army! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by hellrider 31038 from Wednesday, May 04, 2011 12:06:14 AM)
hellrider 31038 wrote:
SEE, HEAR, AND FEEL THE METAL TO THE MAX IN OUR FACE NOT PARTIAL.
HELL YEAH MAN.WE ALL BUST IN WITH OUR LEATHER STUDS AND SPIKES. .IF WE ALL BROUGHT IT SECURITY WOULD PROBLY JUST SAY FUC? IT AND LET US ALL IN.
icecreamman wrote:
I hope Priest rings a full on assualt on the next album. I want everyone to bring out the leather, studs and spikes! I have mine out!
I can finnally post photos now. I feel so accomplished.... [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Tuesday, May 03, 2011 11:51:40 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Like the spikes too!
(actually had gone to look at those photos about 1/2 hour ago while you were trying to figure out how to post them. LOL!)
Spiked belt was on also, with the British Steel Belt Buckle [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by hellrider 31038 from Tuesday, May 03, 2011 11:46:44 PM)
Halford played an awesome live show when they were here last November! I would have loved to have heard Till The Day I Die live, since it's the most amazing song I've heard in a very long time. Regarding Rob, can anyone suggest a good first Fight cd? I've only heard a couple of songs, and love Just A Little Crazy, but I'd like to buy a cd and am not sure which one to go with first. Any suggestions?
After Priest fully retire, I would love to see Rob and Scott do another Fight album. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by hellrider 31038 from Monday, April 25, 2011 9:18:28 PM)
hellrider 31038 wrote:
INNNFFFFUUUCCCCC??????EENNTTTENSSSEEEE MAN BRRRRIIINNNGGGG ITTTTTT ONNNNNNN
JUUUUDDDDAAASSSSSS PRRRRIIIIIEEESSSTTTTTTTTTTTTTT HEEEEAAAAVVVVYYYYY
MEEEETTTT TTTTAAAALLLLLL
ONLY DONT END THE WORLD SO WE CAN EXPERIENCE MORE AFTER THIS AND FROM THE HALFORD BAND ( METAL GOD )
INNTENSE MAAASSSSIIIIIVVVVEEEE RUUUUUSSSSHHHHHHHHH OFFFF POOOOOWWWWEEERRRRRRRRRRR
ULTIMATE METAL FULL ON AND IN OUR FACE
icecreamman wrote:
The Myans predicted the next Priest album in 2012. It will end the world with a massive blast of metal!
hellrider 31038 wrote:
Richie Faulkner Says Judas Priest Guitar Gig Is Like Thunder and Lightning
DESCRIBING THE SOUND OF THE NEW MIGHTY PRIEST BEAST METAL MONSTER ALBUM
SOON TO BE CRANKED AND IN OUR FACE
INNNNNNNTENNNSSSSSSEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
JUDAS PRIEST
MASTERS OF METAL
CONTINUING THE LEGACY
BACK AND WITH A VENGEANCE LIKE NEVER BEFORE
FULL ON AND IN YOUR FACE
I don't think this is a stunt, but I woul not put it past Maiden to do something like this. I think both bands care about their fans, but their mangment could care less. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Brian_Evans from Monday, April 25, 2011 7:25:20 PM)
Brian_Evans wrote:
I don't think Maiden would ever pull a stunt like that.
Daniela P wrote:
Exactly, very well said.
If you're selling tickets for the FINAL tour of AC/DC, you'd expect Angus to be there. If you're selling tickets for the FINAL Iron Maiden tour, you would expect Steve Harris and Bruce Dickinson to be there. The list goes on - the point being that I have bought tickets for something that turns out to be something else than what was ADVERTISED.
Every single person who bought a ticket, should be given a refund and an apology. Not some stupid management-statement about what a "great show" it will be.
Don't get me wrong - the issue is not that K.K is leaving, it's not a catastrophy that there's a new dude playing guitar - I mean, for god's sake, we survived the Ripper-era!
And I don't think any less of Glenn, Rob, Ian and Scott as musicians or members of Judas Priest.
NONE OF THAT is "the problem". The problem is announcing K.K's departure a month before the European summer-tour, when it's too late to cancel flights, rental cars, hotels and concert tickets! MAYBE I wanted the opportunity to make up my own mind whether or not I wanted to see this "alternative Priest".
I wasn't given that chance. I feel like an idiot for having been PLAYED this way, tricked into buying tickets to something that is not what I expected to see.
You wouldn't be okay if you paid for a Mercedes and someone delivered a Fiat to you door either.
People can say whatever they want, I think this was dishonest - and it doesn't really matter if it's K.K's fault, or Judas Priest's fault or the management's fault. The fact remains - I've taken vacation days and spent a lot of money on something that is not what it was being advertised as.
Sorry - but in my book, that's wrong.
jimmyjames wrote:
She's right though Becks. What they have done is sold tickets under false pretences. Whether it's the band or their management doing it, who cares? It stinks. As I said in my first post on this subject, what would everybody be saying if AC/DC sold a shitload of tickets and then announced Angus would not be there? There would be an outcry.
Becks wrote:
Just because we're not crucifying the band the way you are doesn't mean we're not taking it seriously you twit. As for being lied to, if you have read Rob Halfords statement, they had waiting so long in the hope that KK would COME BACK. They finally realised the clock had ticked too long. It has been poorly handled by Priest MANAGEMENT, but I for one refuse to shit all over the band and treat them like crap because of this.
Daniela P wrote:
It's funny... either people are totally lobotomized or they haven't been following this at all. It's amazing how lightly people are taking the situation- all I see is comments about how "it will be good and I will support the band".
How can it be "good" when you've been lied to for 6 months you suckers.... Unbelievable.
And to think that some no-name dude is going to make the show better...? The best he can do is stay the hell out of the spotlight as much as he can and let Ian step out for a change. But it still won't change much. If I was in Priest, I wouldn't have been able to even walk out on a stage and look the fans in the eyes. I would have been too ashamed of what's being done in the name of Judas Priest.
spapad wrote:
I don't want to pour salt into wounds, but what would a show be like with a guitar player almost 30 years their junior on stage? I hate to say it, but I think he is going to step the pace up! This might be the most energetic we have seen Priest in years. Don't get me wrong, you know how much I love KK and if you don't just read my profile quote. But the prospect of new blood does pose the opportunity of more action, and a hard driven show?
Just putting the idea out there. A new way to look at things. Instead of demise, what about rebirth? Could happen.
KK, you know I will always love you! Would beg you on my knees to come back! But if no, I must look forward to something positive coming from this.
The Myans predicted the next Priest album in 2012. It will end the world with a massive blast of metal! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by hellrider 31038 from Monday, April 25, 2011 8:27:14 PM)
hellrider 31038 wrote:
Richie Faulkner Says Judas Priest Guitar Gig Is Like Thunder and Lightning
DESCRIBING THE SOUND OF THE NEW MIGHTY PRIEST BEAST METAL MONSTER ALBUM
SOON TO BE CRANKED AND IN OUR FACE
INNNNNNNTENNNSSSSSSEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
JUDAS PRIEST
MASTERS OF METAL
CONTINUING THE LEGACY
BACK AND WITH A VENGEANCE LIKE NEVER BEFORE
FULL ON AND IN YOUR FACE
Guys remember it is all done now! There is nothing you can do about it! It is times like these when we really see who loves Priest! I would spend hundreds of dollars to see Priest with or without my favorite guitarist! It was KK's playing that got me into guitar, and I am fully supportive of Judas Priest! Rob, Glenn, Ian, and Scott all need our support! So quit complaning, and get ready for an awesome show! Listen to Glenns solo albums, listen to Robs; I am sure they can pull off a album and tour together. Judas Priest is not a single person, it is an entity on its own. The Rolling Stones continued without Bill Wyman, why can't Priest countinue without KK Downing?
Ouch, I think they waited, until the could not anymore. Putting on my Rosey glasses.
Head banger wrote:
realy, I could live with them playing to gaddafi more than I can live with the idea that they sold tickets knowing kk wouldnt be there.
if they thought he would come back then fine.
Becks wrote:
I think it's pretty extreme to say the fact they carried on with the decision the band made as a whole unethical. Not wise considering, to be sure, but unethical? An unethical decision would be something like if Priest accepted shit loads of money from Gaddafi for a private gig in Libya, where many people suffer every day. That is a true lack of ethics and morals. An unwise decision regarding something that, as I said, the band AS A WHOLE decided, that is not unethical by definition I don't think.
jimmyjames wrote:
You don't need to know the reasons for what has happened? They don't matter. The fact is they've announced a farewell tour and then six months later announced that the guy who started the band will not be taking part. Apparently they had known he wasn't happy and were hoping he'd change his mind, he didn't. They should never have announced a tour and started selling tickets until they knew what was happening, it's unethical.
Becks wrote:
Because I honestly don't think it's a good use of my energy and time, being negative and shitting over the band like that. We don't know all the details, therefore I don't think making judgements on what has happened is wise.
jimmyjames wrote:
Why not? They've pulled the wool over the eyes of their fans and are making money out of it. Low.
Becks wrote:
Yeah it does stink, but I am not going to attack the band over it (management, maybe, lol). I recognise that the end of Judas Priest is nigh - I mean, they're pretty old dudes, not that much younger than my dad, and my dad wouldn't be able to rock out every night on stage anymore (if that was his profession) LOL! So I am going to embrace the band as I always have, enjoy the last bit of the ride, and be thankful for all the many years they have given us of their talent, time, and music.
jimmyjames wrote:
She's right though Becks. What they have done is sold tickets under false pretences. Whether it's the band or their management doing it, who cares? It stinks. As I said in my first post on this subject, what would everybody be saying if AC/DC sold a shitload of tickets and then announced Angus would not be there? There would be an outcry.
Becks wrote:
Just because we're not crucifying the band the way you are doesn't mean we're not taking it seriously you twit. As for being lied to, if you have read Rob Halfords statement, they had waiting so long in the hope that KK would COME BACK. They finally realised the clock had ticked too long. It has been poorly handled by Priest MANAGEMENT, but I for one refuse to shit all over the band and treat them like crap because of this.
Daniela P wrote:
It's funny... either people are totally lobotomized or they haven't been following this at all. It's amazing how lightly people are taking the situation- all I see is comments about how "it will be good and I will support the band".
How can it be "good" when you've been lied to for 6 months you suckers.... Unbelievable.
And to think that some no-name dude is going to make the show better...? The best he can do is stay the hell out of the spotlight as much as he can and let Ian step out for a change. But it still won't change much. If I was in Priest, I wouldn't have been able to even walk out on a stage and look the fans in the eyes. I would have been too ashamed of what's being done in the name of Judas Priest.
spapad wrote:
I don't want to pour salt into wounds, but what would a show be like with a guitar player almost 30 years their junior on stage? I hate to say it, but I think he is going to step the pace up! This might be the most energetic we have seen Priest in years. Don't get me wrong, you know how much I love KK and if you don't just read my profile quote. But the prospect of new blood does pose the opportunity of more action, and a hard driven show?
Just putting the idea out there. A new way to look at things. Instead of demise, what about rebirth? Could happen.
KK, you know I will always love you! Would beg you on my knees to come back! But if no, I must look forward to something positive coming from this.
Make it 19 -5 JD! Saxon are better than ever while Maiden have really fizzed out, the Final Frontier was okay, but okay does not cut it. I am still waiting on a Saxon/Judas Priest U.S. Tour!
Yep thats the way it was here in the states too Rik. Maiden didn't so much sell out to a wider audience as you know but thier song writting starting from 1990's poor quality album "No Prayer For The Dying" all the way till 2010's poor quality album The Final Frontier has sucked BIG TIME. from 1990 to 2010 they wrote 8 studio albums and only 1 of them are decent"A Matter Of Life And Death". Brave New World only has 4 songs that are worth a shit,the other 6 songs suck balls.
Saxon sold out big time,but had come back full circle and proved themselves to the metal world they are quality british heavy metal and have been for 16 years.
The Maiden fanboy created this thread 5 months ago thinking that everybody would be flocking towards Maiden and posting Maiden over Saxon,but this back fired on his ass big time with Saxon grabbing 17 votes and with Maiden only grabbing 5 votes over 5 months. That shows how lame Iron Maiden really is these last 20 years. Pretty sad when a band has to live off the early 1980's for fan's opinions here in 2011,absolutely "sad".
Hey Maiden fanboy.....17 to 5 Saxon is kicking your lame band's ass these last 16 years and counting HAHA!!! Keep living in the 80's haha!!!
(Quoting Message by Rik_ from Sunday, April 24, 2011 2:56:20 PM)
Rik_ wrote:
During the late 80s & through the 90s, heavy rock / metal generally lost it's street cred, at least it did here in the UK, not just Saxon . The two magazines here which had traditionally flown the flag for metal became full of bands which had no business being in there in my opinion, chilli peppers, Faith no more, grunge bands etc etc', it got virtually no radio air time either, and traditional metal was pushed out & poked fun at or portrayed as old hat. Only bands like Metallica or Guns & roses (another band living off the sale of one album) seemed to be spared the rod. Saxon were often treated with little respect, but they stuck to their guns like Motorhead, Priest and the likes, and they rode out the storm while other bands either fell by the wayside or tried to appeal to a wider audience. Edited at: Sunday, April 24, 2011 2:57:58 PM
Edited at: Sunday, April 24, 2011 3:22:53 PM
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[icecreamman] Saturday, April 23, 2011 10:44:34 AM
If Priest were to take what worked best on British Steel, Defenders of the Faith, and Painkiller; and worked off that we could have a great metal album. At least we know there will be a new album. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Saturday, April 23, 2011 10:39:23 AM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Yes,I really think Rob and Glenn can come up with something excellent,but no it will not top 6 of thier LPs. I like the Hell Bent For Leather album for example,there are 4 tracks on the album I've never like after all these years : Take On The World,Burnin' Up,Before The Dawn and Evil Fantasies.
This being said in my opinion the new album could be better than Hell Bent For Leather,it won't be able to top the "song Hell Bent For Leather" but I can see it topping the album over all if the song writting quality is there. Before K.K. left and if he would of been on this next album then it wouldn't of bothered me for them to put one song like "Worth Fighting For" on the new album if done right,but now K.K. is gone I feel every track must be something heavy,either like All Guns Blazing or Bloodstone,or even Grinder or melodic like Between The Hammer & The Anvil and Hellrider the song.
Something like this so there is a mix of sounds,melody but heavy as hell like the Painkiller album has the heavy theme instead of anything "Nostradamus " related.
icecreamman wrote:
Man, if Priest can put out an album that is anywhere close to Defenders or Painkiller I would buy 15 copies of it. Like you I am sure they are going for it, and I am sure they will shut up all that lack faith! Keep defending JD! We will get a great heavy metal album.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Very well said Freeze. This is very tricky,I guess the new line up is not "Priest" but a new chapter of the band that will NEVER top the magic of the old,but at this point I just don't care anymore. Since the day of the release of Nostradamus July 2008 pretty much 3 long years ago,I've been letdown with the album and "CRAVING" new metal from this band.
And although the new album will not top 6 of thier albums,it could top 7 other albums they have with K.K. so its all about the new album for me,if it kicks ass it might have it's own "magic" ...the band will be releasing it's 17th studio LP and it could very well rate in at # 7 or #8 ,no it will not top the elite Priest albums but this still may kick ass,it very well could be better than Angel Of Retribution and if that happens thats good enough for me.
There still is a part of me that is glad K.K. is out of the band because he was holding down Rob,Glenn and Ian from making another album,or an album that was not going to be a heavy metal masterpiece,that being said this makes me still crave a new album from this band,but I do see why your opinion is this way,I fully understand but I'm siding in with Hellrider with keeping the faith for this next album,it might shock us all who knows.
For me personally...it was way worse,much worse when "ROB" left the band. Sure this still sucks,but I think this new album will be better than the Ripper albums,Rob Glenn and Ian are still here,thats all that matters to me.Again,if the new album is terrible then that will be the day the music will die for me.
Rob Glenn and Ian I'm sure are aware of this and they may try to muster up one of the best albums of all time which could put this album up next to classics like Painkiller,ect....no not as good but it could be close...
Angel Of Retribution wasn't as good as Painkiller or Defenders,Screaming,British Steel or Sad Wings but it rates in at #6 for me personally...this new album could rate in at #6 and knock Retribution down a notch to # 7 with the new album at #6....that would be one hell of an acomplishment,this is why I still have faith in this new album.
(Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Saturday, April 23, 2011 6:48:19 AM)
Deep Freeze wrote:
Its good to see such great discourse regarding the band and all that has occurred. I used a different anaolgy when talking to MM about it earlier. For ME, it's like watching a loved one go through divorce. Of course you support them but it still hurts and it will never be "the same". I will always cherish the memories I have of the band and all the great shows. The thing is, for me, it will not be PRIEST. It will be the remaining members playing as Priest. They will be awesome. It will be epic. They never fail to deliver. All of this is true.
The thing is, I want to remember them as they were way back when I first saw them in the 70's. When I first was drawn to their magic. I want to remember them as they were on that summer's day in Detroit just a couple years ago, when I was only feet from them. Without KK, it will not be the same and, for me, that says it all. I am truly glad that so many of you will go and will say your "good byes", or whatever you wish to call it, in your own ways. That is a good thing. For me, it is over. I will always love the band and I support whatever they do, just as I would any loved one. I still love Judas Priest. That doesn't change.
[icecreamman] Saturday, April 23, 2011 10:39:06 AM
It is just so funny to me how Metallica had the biggest name on the box (its huge), and they sucked! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Budred from Saturday, April 23, 2011 7:30:03 AM)
Budred wrote:
I used to think Metallica was the second best live band out there, even after the music started to suck.
The last time I saw them was 03' on their Summer Sanitarium tour and they freakin' rocked. I bought
the Big Four also and after watching I probably wouldn't go to another Metallica show. They sucked.
I liked Megadeth the best, then Slayer, then Anthrax. All good performances. Just my opinion.
icecreamman wrote:
One thing that annoys me is that people around here think Judas Priest is a gay man that wears leather. Ignorance surrounds me here in Kinston NC. I have the big 4 Blu Ray , Anthrax and Megadeth stole the show. I hate that Metallica got the big headline and a big fancy production, but it was cool to see the first two bands wipe the stage with them. Slayer had a good set, just not as good as the first two bands. Anthrax is a different band with Joey. He brings them to a whole new level.
spapad wrote:
And I hate when they do that. Joey Belladonna is awesome! Like you said, what is that Rob' band crap? Unless they are speaking of Halford they have no reason to say that. Has to bee dumbed down so kids can figure out it's one of Rob's bands. What an insult, the way it is written.
icecreamman wrote:
I got that same feeling, but that is the internet for you. Dummed down for kids.
spapad wrote:
Anthrax without Joey is like Priest without Rob. But the article just seemed kinda dumbed down for kids.
icecreamman wrote:
I did'nt like how the article called Priest "Rob's band". Great for Anthrax anyway, I am glad to see Joey back with them.
[icecreamman] Saturday, April 23, 2011 10:15:26 AM
Man, if Priest can put out an album that is anywhere close to Defenders or Painkiller I would buy 15 copies of it. Like you I am sure they are going for it, and I am sure they will shut up all that lack faith! Keep defending JD! We will get a great heavy metal album. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Saturday, April 23, 2011 9:42:31 AM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Very well said Freeze. This is very tricky,I guess the new line up is not "Priest" but a new chapter of the band that will NEVER top the magic of the old,but at this point I just don't care anymore. Since the day of the release of Nostradamus July 2008 pretty much 3 long years ago,I've been letdown with the album and "CRAVING" new metal from this band.
And although the new album will not top 6 of thier albums,it could top 7 other albums they have with K.K. so its all about the new album for me,if it kicks ass it might have it's own "magic" ...the band will be releasing it's 17th studio LP and it could very well rate in at # 7 or #8 ,no it will not top the elite Priest albums but this still may kick ass,it very well could be better than Angel Of Retribution and if that happens thats good enough for me.
There still is a part of me that is glad K.K. is out of the band because he was holding down Rob,Glenn and Ian from making another album,or an album that was not going to be a heavy metal masterpiece,that being said this makes me still crave a new album from this band,but I do see why your opinion is this way,I fully understand but I'm siding in with Hellrider with keeping the faith for this next album,it might shock us all who knows.
For me personally...it was way worse,much worse when "ROB" left the band. Sure this still sucks,but I think this new album will be better than the Ripper albums,Rob Glenn and Ian are still here,thats all that matters to me.Again,if the new album is terrible then that will be the day the music will die for me.
Rob Glenn and Ian I'm sure are aware of this and they may try to muster up one of the best albums of all time which could put this album up next to classics like Painkiller,ect....no not as good but it could be close...
Angel Of Retribution wasn't as good as Painkiller or Defenders,Screaming,British Steel or Sad Wings but it rates in at #6 for me personally...this new album could rate in at #6 and knock Retribution down a notch to # 7 with the new album at #6....that would be one hell of an acomplishment,this is why I still have faith in this new album.
(Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Saturday, April 23, 2011 6:48:19 AM)
Deep Freeze wrote:
Its good to see such great discourse regarding the band and all that has occurred. I used a different anaolgy when talking to MM about it earlier. For ME, it's like watching a loved one go through divorce. Of course you support them but it still hurts and it will never be "the same". I will always cherish the memories I have of the band and all the great shows. The thing is, for me, it will not be PRIEST. It will be the remaining members playing as Priest. They will be awesome. It will be epic. They never fail to deliver. All of this is true.
The thing is, I want to remember them as they were way back when I first saw them in the 70's. When I first was drawn to their magic. I want to remember them as they were on that summer's day in Detroit just a couple years ago, when I was only feet from them. Without KK, it will not be the same and, for me, that says it all. I am truly glad that so many of you will go and will say your "good byes", or whatever you wish to call it, in your own ways. That is a good thing. For me, it is over. I will always love the band and I support whatever they do, just as I would any loved one. I still love Judas Priest. That doesn't change.
I could care less if Rob is gay, he is just Rob Halford to me. He is THE METAL GOD. With Anthrax I hated the John Bush era, although I do like Armored Saint. Joey is just better suited for Anthrax. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by spapad from Friday, April 22, 2011 10:40:15 PM)
spapad wrote:
Joey's voice is what I expect to hear when I listen to Anthrax. I quit them when he left, sound familiar? Some bands are just so identified by the voice and lyrics that when the singer leaves the band is just beyond help.
Same situation as with Priest wtih Ripper. You can get someone who can do all the ranges of voice but if the new lyrics are not there, and the heart is not there, it's not going to impress anyone.
On the gay thing, I knew he was gay long ago. It made no difference to me then, it makes zero difference now. I loved him, and I still love him, and always will. That's Southern speak that they think Judas Priest is just him. Ignorant talk.
(Quoting Message by icecreamman from Friday, April 22, 2011 10:32:47 PM)
icecreamman wrote:
One thing that annoys me is that people around here think Judas Priest is a gay man that wears leather. Ignorance surrounds me here in Kinston NC. I have the big 4 Blu Ray , Anthrax and Megadeth stole the show. I hate that Metallica got the big headline and a big fancy production, but it was cool to see the first two bands wipe the stage with them. Slayer had a good set, just not as good as the first two bands. Anthrax is a different band with Joey. He brings them to a whole new level.
spapad wrote:
And I hate when they do that. Joey Belladonna is awesome! Like you said, what is that Rob' band crap? Unless they are speaking of Halford they have no reason to say that. Has to bee dumbed down so kids can figure out it's one of Rob's bands. What an insult, the way it is written.
icecreamman wrote:
I got that same feeling, but that is the internet for you. Dummed down for kids.
spapad wrote:
Anthrax without Joey is like Priest without Rob. But the article just seemed kinda dumbed down for kids.
icecreamman wrote:
I did'nt like how the article called Priest "Rob's band". Great for Anthrax anyway, I am glad to see Joey back with them.
One thing that annoys me is that people around here think Judas Priest is a gay man that wears leather. Ignorance surrounds me here in Kinston NC. I have the big 4 Blu Ray , Anthrax and Megadeth stole the show. I hate that Metallica got the big headline and a big fancy production, but it was cool to see the first two bands wipe the stage with them. Slayer had a good set, just not as good as the first two bands. Anthrax is a different band with Joey. He brings them to a whole new level. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by spapad from Friday, April 22, 2011 10:26:10 PM)
spapad wrote:
And I hate when they do that. Joey Belladonna is awesome! Like you said, what is that Rob' band crap? Unless they are speaking of Halford they have no reason to say that. Has to bee dumbed down so kids can figure out it's one of Rob's bands. What an insult, the way it is written.
icecreamman wrote:
I got that same feeling, but that is the internet for you. Dummed down for kids.
spapad wrote:
Anthrax without Joey is like Priest without Rob. But the article just seemed kinda dumbed down for kids.
icecreamman wrote:
I did'nt like how the article called Priest "Rob's band". Great for Anthrax anyway, I am glad to see Joey back with them.
I got that same feeling, but that is the internet for you. Dummed down for kids. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by spapad from Friday, April 22, 2011 10:08:06 PM)
spapad wrote:
Anthrax without Joey is like Priest without Rob. But the article just seemed kinda dumbed down for kids.
icecreamman wrote:
I did'nt like how the article called Priest "Rob's band". Great for Anthrax anyway, I am glad to see Joey back with them.
I believe many of us will support Priest until the end. We may sound selfish, but Priest fans seem to be a loyal bunch. As for me, I know I will be there when all is said and done. I actually shed a tear today listening to Rock Hard Ride Free. I felt like a little girl, but hey, this is my favorite band. Without Priest I wouldn't be the musician I am now. I owe them my loyalty, hence their music has given my life much joy. I will be forever grateful for the good and the bad, because at least we still have the world's greatest heavy metal band. LONG LIVE THE METAL GODS. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by spapad from Friday, April 22, 2011 8:22:32 PM)
spapad wrote:
I now realize that we fans of Priest have always been a selfish lot. We have good reason to be.
Why mess with lightning in a bottle?
But we must go on. KK wants us to support the band and I'm sure they have found someone more than up to the job and works simpatico with Glenn. We all fell away when Ripper replaced Rob, because the lyrics and voice was not what we wanted, (we are a brutal judging bunch), and it was not a good separation back then. Not that it ever is for us fans.
I'll be out there supporting them. They are still MY band, I will miss KK tremendously, and might even cry, but I'll be there showing my love of my ALL TIME FAVORITE BAND.
I love my Metal Gods. It's hard enough to see a split so late, but I want to see them one last time. With tears in my eyes when the show is over.
I did'nt like how the article called Priest "Rob's band". Great for Anthrax anyway, I am glad to see Joey back with them. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Becks from Friday, April 22, 2011 9:55:15 PM)
Look man I love Nostradamus, but I am not going to say Demolition is bad either. Both are really great. If only Demolition wasn't plagued by bad lyrics. Nostradamus was great, but I don't want another album like it. I think it caught everyone off guard after AOR. I believe AOR would have been a masterpiece if it wasn't for Roy Z's bad production. It sounds like a Halford album at times.As for the next album, I say let Tom Allom produce it, and make it heavy as hell.
Demolition destroys Nostradamus.
I'm listening to "One on One" as I'm writing this. People always talk about wanting
"Metal". This album is "Metal"
If K.K. had the keys for Nostradamus and Glenn had them for Demolition then let Glenn
do the driving. At least this album is heavy. Do people hate Ripper so bad that they fail
to hear how heavy this album is? To me it's laughable.I like Ripper and I'm glad he
kept Priest going. He's no Rob and I'll never say he is but I don't think they could have
found "anyone" to "fill in" as well as he did. We should be grateful for him.
Rip away, it won't bother me. Edited at: Friday, April 22, 2011 8:51:19 AM
[icecreamman] Thursday, April 21, 2011 10:38:44 PM
Hey guys, my thoughts in prayers are with you all. It must be tough after all these years to have a friend just quit. Just wanted you guys to know I will support you in whatever you do.
Best of luck to all of you, Rob, KK, Glenn, Ian and Scott
Ritchie you have some BIG shoes to fill. Let the Metal Gods bless you man.
[icecreamman] Thursday, April 21, 2011 10:34:50 PM
This will be my first time seeing Priest. I had an opportunity to see them on the metal masters tour, but due to some health problems I had to stay in boring Kinston NC. I have regreted it ever since, especially since Ronnie passed away and KK quiting. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by spapad from Thursday, April 21, 2011 10:31:10 PM)
spapad wrote:
I went to the last two tours (after not seeing them for a few years), one on my own and one I met up with Guido. I loved the shows. My daughter however was always off with her father at the times they toured, so I promised her I would take her to this tour come hell or highwater. Really, being there with her and hopefully a few friends from this board, it's going to be a great time, and I will look forward to it.
icecreamman wrote:
I made a promise to myself and to Chelsea ( My girlfriend of 3 years ) that we would see Priest , no matter how much it cost or how far we have to travel. I will see the greatest heavy metal band ever live.
spapad wrote:
I know the feeling. I've seen the the guys all together several times and since Scott has been with them for so many years now he seems the obvious true Priest drummer. I wish it could be different, but no. I will go and support my band I love so much, even KK wants the fans to support the band and his decision. So, that is what I must except, or walk away......................and I won't walk away, so........there ya go. Tour time.
icecreamman wrote:
Yeah I really feel bad for Rob, but it also may be very awkward for Glenn. His parntner in crime for so many years is gone, I really feel for him. I will definitly see Priest and support them in anything they are involved in. I love those guys too much. They are like my best friends that I have never met. I just saddens me that I never experianced the classic line up live.
spapad wrote:
I'm sure most of us were greatful for the news. I can now see why HRMG said when Rob annouced the final JP tour on his Halford tour that he was truly down about it. He already knew what we found out yesterday. How could he not be anything else but sad to loose KK. I wonder if KK's annoucement was not a somewhat double edged sword for him. He did that same thing years ago, and yet this time he had to be the one receiving the bad news. Must have hurt even more to know that feeling from the opposite side.
At last, I'm glad they are all gentlemen and no one is throwing words at each other this time. Sad resolve for all of us.
icecreamman wrote:
I am just glad Rob had something to say so quickly. I thought it might take a week or so for the metal god to respond. Also it is good to Scott "growing up" to be a spokesperson of the band. When no one will give us answers, Scott or Rob will.
spapad wrote:
Thanks PK, IC, good to get all anlges on this sad news.
Painkiller87 wrote:
JUDAS PRIEST Drummer: The Fans Want Us To Go On (Video) - Apr. 21, 2011
The Artisan News Service conducted a short interview with JUDASPRIEST drummer Scott Travis at the third annual Revolver Golden Gods Awards, which took place last night (Wednesday, April 20) at Club Nokia in downtown LosAngeles, California. When asked for an update on the just-announced departure of the band's original guitarist, K.K. Downing, Travis replied, "The update is in the press release [which came out Wednesday morning], so you know as much as I do. But you have to have the burning desire in your heart, in my opinion, to play heavymetal music."
He added, "We all start at a young age and it's not because of money, fame or girls — you start because you love the music. So if he's not feeling that anymore, then I give him props for taking himself out of the game, basically."
When asked about the remaining JUDAS PREST members' decision to go ahead with their previously announced tour plans with a replacement guitarist — 31 year-old British guitar player Richie Faulkner (LAUREN HARRIS, DIRTY DEEDS) — Travis said, "It's never an easy decision to replace any longtime bandmember, but PRIEST is almost like its own machine, and the fans want PRIEST to continue, we want it to continue, and we have to go on. K.K.… I can't speak for him, but we have to go on; that's all."
Downing released a statement earlier today blaming his departure from JUDAS PRIEST on "an ongoing breakdown in working relationship between myself, elements of the band, and the band's management for some time." He added that he "decided to step down rather than to tour with negative sentiments as I feel that this would be a deception to . . . our cherished fans."
[icecreamman] Thursday, April 21, 2011 10:25:27 PM
I made a promise to myself and to Chelsea ( My girlfriend of 3 years ) that we would see Priest , no matter how much it cost or how far we have to travel. I will see the greatest heavy metal band ever live. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by spapad from Thursday, April 21, 2011 10:17:55 PM)
spapad wrote:
I know the feeling. I've seen the the guys all together several times and since Scott has been with them for so many years now he seems the obvious true Priest drummer. I wish it could be different, but no. I will go and support my band I love so much, even KK wants the fans to support the band and his decision. So, that is what I must except, or walk away......................and I won't walk away, so........there ya go. Tour time.
icecreamman wrote:
Yeah I really feel bad for Rob, but it also may be very awkward for Glenn. His parntner in crime for so many years is gone, I really feel for him. I will definitly see Priest and support them in anything they are involved in. I love those guys too much. They are like my best friends that I have never met. I just saddens me that I never experianced the classic line up live.
spapad wrote:
I'm sure most of us were greatful for the news. I can now see why HRMG said when Rob annouced the final JP tour on his Halford tour that he was truly down about it. He already knew what we found out yesterday. How could he not be anything else but sad to loose KK. I wonder if KK's annoucement was not a somewhat double edged sword for him. He did that same thing years ago, and yet this time he had to be the one receiving the bad news. Must have hurt even more to know that feeling from the opposite side.
At last, I'm glad they are all gentlemen and no one is throwing words at each other this time. Sad resolve for all of us.
icecreamman wrote:
I am just glad Rob had something to say so quickly. I thought it might take a week or so for the metal god to respond. Also it is good to Scott "growing up" to be a spokesperson of the band. When no one will give us answers, Scott or Rob will.
spapad wrote:
Thanks PK, IC, good to get all anlges on this sad news.
Painkiller87 wrote:
JUDAS PRIEST Drummer: The Fans Want Us To Go On (Video) - Apr. 21, 2011
The Artisan News Service conducted a short interview with JUDASPRIEST drummer Scott Travis at the third annual Revolver Golden Gods Awards, which took place last night (Wednesday, April 20) at Club Nokia in downtown LosAngeles, California. When asked for an update on the just-announced departure of the band's original guitarist, K.K. Downing, Travis replied, "The update is in the press release [which came out Wednesday morning], so you know as much as I do. But you have to have the burning desire in your heart, in my opinion, to play heavymetal music."
He added, "We all start at a young age and it's not because of money, fame or girls — you start because you love the music. So if he's not feeling that anymore, then I give him props for taking himself out of the game, basically."
When asked about the remaining JUDAS PREST members' decision to go ahead with their previously announced tour plans with a replacement guitarist — 31 year-old British guitar player Richie Faulkner (LAUREN HARRIS, DIRTY DEEDS) — Travis said, "It's never an easy decision to replace any longtime bandmember, but PRIEST is almost like its own machine, and the fans want PRIEST to continue, we want it to continue, and we have to go on. K.K.… I can't speak for him, but we have to go on; that's all."
Downing released a statement earlier today blaming his departure from JUDAS PRIEST on "an ongoing breakdown in working relationship between myself, elements of the band, and the band's management for some time." He added that he "decided to step down rather than to tour with negative sentiments as I feel that this would be a deception to . . . our cherished fans."
[icecreamman] Thursday, April 21, 2011 10:13:22 PM
Yeah I really feel bad for Rob, but it also may be very awkward for Glenn. His parntner in crime for so many years is gone, I really feel for him. I will definitly see Priest and support them in anything they are involved in. I love those guys too much. They are like my best friends that I have never met. I just saddens me that I never experianced the classic line up live. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by spapad from Thursday, April 21, 2011 10:04:27 PM)
spapad wrote:
I'm sure most of us were greatful for the news. I can now see why HRMG said when Rob annouced the final JP tour on his Halford tour that he was truly down about it. He already knew what we found out yesterday. How could he not be anything else but sad to loose KK. I wonder if KK's annoucement was not a somewhat double edged sword for him. He did that same thing years ago, and yet this time he had to be the one receiving the bad news. Must have hurt even more to know that feeling from the opposite side.
At last, I'm glad they are all gentlemen and no one is throwing words at each other this time. Sad resolve for all of us.
icecreamman wrote:
I am just glad Rob had something to say so quickly. I thought it might take a week or so for the metal god to respond. Also it is good to Scott "growing up" to be a spokesperson of the band. When no one will give us answers, Scott or Rob will.
spapad wrote:
Thanks PK, IC, good to get all anlges on this sad news.
Painkiller87 wrote:
JUDAS PRIEST Drummer: The Fans Want Us To Go On (Video) - Apr. 21, 2011
The Artisan News Service conducted a short interview with JUDASPRIEST drummer Scott Travis at the third annual Revolver Golden Gods Awards, which took place last night (Wednesday, April 20) at Club Nokia in downtown LosAngeles, California. When asked for an update on the just-announced departure of the band's original guitarist, K.K. Downing, Travis replied, "The update is in the press release [which came out Wednesday morning], so you know as much as I do. But you have to have the burning desire in your heart, in my opinion, to play heavymetal music."
He added, "We all start at a young age and it's not because of money, fame or girls — you start because you love the music. So if he's not feeling that anymore, then I give him props for taking himself out of the game, basically."
When asked about the remaining JUDAS PREST members' decision to go ahead with their previously announced tour plans with a replacement guitarist — 31 year-old British guitar player Richie Faulkner (LAUREN HARRIS, DIRTY DEEDS) — Travis said, "It's never an easy decision to replace any longtime bandmember, but PRIEST is almost like its own machine, and the fans want PRIEST to continue, we want it to continue, and we have to go on. K.K.… I can't speak for him, but we have to go on; that's all."
Downing released a statement earlier today blaming his departure from JUDAS PRIEST on "an ongoing breakdown in working relationship between myself, elements of the band, and the band's management for some time." He added that he "decided to step down rather than to tour with negative sentiments as I feel that this would be a deception to . . . our cherished fans."
[icecreamman] Thursday, April 21, 2011 10:03:56 PM
Please dont bring up that sick bastard. Dave Holland digust me. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Head banger from Thursday, April 21, 2011 9:59:51 PM)
Head banger wrote:
damn straight
Budred wrote:
As well he should be the fucking puke.
Head banger wrote:
I think Dave is still "otherwise occupied" and will be for a couple years
JT_Small_Deadly_Space wrote:
I can't think of a worse announcement, next they'll be telling us that Scott has retired and they have rehired Dave Holland to play on the final tour.
I am just glad Rob had something to say so quickly. I thought it might take a week or so for the metal god to respond. Also it is good to Scott "growing up" to be a spokesperson of the band. When no one will give us answers, Scott or Rob will. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by spapad from Thursday, April 21, 2011 7:44:10 PM)
spapad wrote:
Thanks PK, IC, good to get all anlges on this sad news.
Painkiller87 wrote:
JUDAS PRIEST Drummer: The Fans Want Us To Go On (Video) - Apr. 21, 2011
The Artisan News Service conducted a short interview with JUDASPRIEST drummer Scott Travis at the third annual Revolver Golden Gods Awards, which took place last night (Wednesday, April 20) at Club Nokia in downtown LosAngeles, California. When asked for an update on the just-announced departure of the band's original guitarist, K.K. Downing, Travis replied, "The update is in the press release [which came out Wednesday morning], so you know as much as I do. But you have to have the burning desire in your heart, in my opinion, to play heavymetal music."
He added, "We all start at a young age and it's not because of money, fame or girls — you start because you love the music. So if he's not feeling that anymore, then I give him props for taking himself out of the game, basically."
When asked about the remaining JUDAS PREST members' decision to go ahead with their previously announced tour plans with a replacement guitarist — 31 year-old British guitar player Richie Faulkner (LAUREN HARRIS, DIRTY DEEDS) — Travis said, "It's never an easy decision to replace any longtime bandmember, but PRIEST is almost like its own machine, and the fans want PRIEST to continue, we want it to continue, and we have to go on. K.K.… I can't speak for him, but we have to go on; that's all."
Downing released a statement earlier today blaming his departure from JUDAS PRIEST on "an ongoing breakdown in working relationship between myself, elements of the band, and the band's management for some time." He added that he "decided to step down rather than to tour with negative sentiments as I feel that this would be a deception to . . . our cherished fans."
[icecreamman] Thursday, April 21, 2011 10:23:10 AM
I will wait a couple of hours. Maybe they can get things straight at the mill. Thanks for posting it here. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by John Murphy32445 from Thursday, April 21, 2011 10:14:30 AM)
John Murphy32445 wrote:
It's there dude, front page.
Seems like there's too much traffic for the site it keeps going down.
[icecreamman] Thursday, April 21, 2011 10:12:48 AM
I don't see it. Everything at the mill still looks the same as it did yesterday. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by John Murphy32445 from Thursday, April 21, 2011 10:08:09 AM)
It is with much regret that I will not be with you this summer. Thank you all from the bottom of my heart for your concerns about my health. Please rest assured that I am O.K.
There has been an ongoing breakdown in working relationship between myself, elements of the band, and the band's management for some time.
Therefore I have decided to step down rather than to tour with negative sentiments as I feel that this would be a deception to you, our cherished fans.
However I would urge you to please support the Priest as I have no doubt that it will be a show not to be missed.
All my love and respect,
on KK's steel mill site thought u might all want to see it. Can't believe he has left.
I will be going. I never seen Priest live, so it is a must. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Thursday, April 21, 2011 12:03:08 AM)
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Now then. Time for some Metal Blah.
In light of the recent bad news, the big question now is:
Who will go see Judas Priest (without KK) perform live in their last ever world tour? Would anyone be willing to? As crappy as this question sounds, apparently the rest of the band wants to go on ahead with "all guns blazing" and with the new guy in tow. At least one thing is certain--a new album will come out next year. Here's hoping that KK helped in creating at least some of it (one SONG, at least).
Personally, I will go see them, at least to say goodbye to Glenn, Rob, Ian, and Scott, and give the new guy a chance. At least he won't be a permanent fixture, considering the rest of the band will be done soon. Still...this all blows. An explanation is needed, and fast.
No, it would sound to much like Halford. Halford is a band on their own. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by bov1 from Thursday, April 21, 2011 12:44:47 AM)
bov1 wrote:
I wish to see instead of Richie Faulkner in PRIEST - Metal Mike or Roy Z and can be
Pat Lachman ! This Will Be Awesome !
Yeah I have the same felling. The next album will be the heaviest album they have put out. DONT piss Rob or Glenn off, IT WILL GET MASSIVLEY HEAVY! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Thursday, April 21, 2011 7:39:36 AM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
lol! Dude thats the funniest shit I've heard all day (lol) Dude totally,I hear ya loud and clear...ha your the only one else besides me who has the guts and balls to say some shit like that, tell it like it really is with the band lately(last 5 years)good for you jimmy I however won't be counting down the days till the next album comes out like I was before any of this happened but I'll sure as hell be interested in it the day it comes out so I can listen to it before I decide to buy it. If the album is top notch with quality songs we might all be suprised.
I really think now that the album will be HEAVY AS HELL,I really think it will be so that will be interesting the week its released,still can't get pumped up for it incase it turns out like a lemon,but Rob and Glenn are out to prove something. Looks like the downfall of Judas Priest was it's founding member these last 5 years.
jimmyjames wrote:
This band, more than any other, fucks their fans around and blatantly rips them off. What would everyone be saying if AC/DC announced a tour, sold a shitload of tickets, and then said "By the way, Angus has retired and won't be there but we've got a new guy who fits in really well"? Bite the bullet you fuckin' pussies and cancel the tour, call it a day and fuck off with at least a small amount of self respect intact.
Yeah I have the same felling. The next album will be the heaviest album they have put out. DONT piss Rob or Glenn off, IT WILL GET MASSIVLEY HEAVY! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Thursday, April 21, 2011 7:39:36 AM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
lol! Dude thats the funniest shit I've heard all day (lol) Dude totally,I hear ya loud and clear...ha your the only one else besides me who has the guts and balls to say some shit like that, tell it like it really is with the band lately(last 5 years)good for you jimmy I however won't be counting down the days till the next album comes out like I was before any of this happened but I'll sure as hell be interested in it the day it comes out so I can listen to it before I decide to buy it. If the album is top notch with quality songs we might all be suprised.
I really think now that the album will be HEAVY AS HELL,I really think it will be so that will be interesting the week its released,still can't get pumped up for it incase it turns out like a lemon,but Rob and Glenn are out to prove something. Looks like the downfall of Judas Priest was it's founding member these last 5 years.
jimmyjames wrote:
This band, more than any other, fucks their fans around and blatantly rips them off. What would everyone be saying if AC/DC announced a tour, sold a shitload of tickets, and then said "By the way, Angus has retired and won't be there but we've got a new guy who fits in really well"? Bite the bullet you fuckin' pussies and cancel the tour, call it a day and fuck off with at least a small amount of self respect intact.
[icecreamman] Wednesday, April 20, 2011 8:40:07 PM
I will always defend the faith man. I just hope this is a spinal tap moment and KK realizes that he belongs in Priest........ [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by hellrider 31038 from Wednesday, April 20, 2011 8:10:11 PM)
hellrider 31038 wrote:
HEY ICECREAM MAN KEEP THE FAITH MAN KK IS NOT GOING ANYWHERE
HEY KK IF YOU ARE OUT THERE GET YOUR AXE AND HEAD BACK TO THE STUDIO FOR THE NEXT MIGHTY PRIEST BEAST METAL MONSTER ALBUM.IF YOU THINK
WE ARE JUST GONNA LET YOU GO JUST LIKE THAT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBngKpldDlo
CRANK IT
(Quoting Message by icecreamman from Wednesday, April 20, 2011 8:02:39 PM)
icecreamman wrote:
This is some bull shit! I log on and see my favorite guitarist has quit my favorite band! I am hoping whats left of JP goes out there and destroys everything in their path! Right now I am really pissed with Ken, I was planning on buying the best tickets and driving as far out of my way as I had to to go and see "Classic Priest". I just want to ask KK why. Why did he betray the fans? Why did he lead us to believe there was at least one last chance to see them live?
[icecreamman] Wednesday, April 20, 2011 8:02:39 PM
This is some bull shit! I log on and see my favorite guitarist has quit my favorite band! I am hoping whats left of JP goes out there and destroys everything in their path! Right now I am really pissed with Ken, I was planning on buying the best tickets and driving as far out of my way as I had to to go and see "Classic Priest". I just want to ask KK why. Why did he betray the fans? Why did he lead us to believe there was at least one last chance to see them live?
Future of Mankind is fantastic! One of my favorites off Nostradamus! Really heavy riffs and the solos are incredible. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by JT_Small_Deadly_Space from Friday, January 28, 2011 7:44:50 AM)
JT_Small_Deadly_Space wrote:
Yeah with Nostradamus it's not an album I can slap on and listen to all of the way through even though that is how I first listened to it because I was told that is how it should be listened to.
Now if I put it on I skip the preludes and some main tracks unless it's the couple I really really like and there are some.
The tracks I listen to always: Dawn of Creation/ Prophecy (together it has to be done), Revelations, Death, Pestilence and Plague, Peace/ Conquest, Persecution, Solitude, Alone, Visions, Nostradamus, Future of Mankind.
For me that would have done it, that would have passed as a good solid metal album to me as they are pretty strong tracks in my eyes.
I'm surprised that Future of Mankind is so overlooked by people it's a really underated track with some really heavy riffs and a perfectly written chorus even on Rob's standards it breaks the mould.
But anyways on topic now, to me this is the best news in the world the thought of Priest writing another fantastic heavy metal album is all the motivation I need. I would even settle for something along the lines of Angel of Retribution because to me that was a cracking album. Not one bad song on it not even Loch-Ness I bloody love that song, so heavy.
So yeah all they need to do is up their game again and restore freedom to Scott Travis's phenominal drumming because the drummng on Painkiller and especially Jugulator was jaw dropping and on Nostradamus it was too basic for my liking. Edited at: Friday, January 28, 2011 7:45:07 AM Edited at: Friday, January 28, 2011 7:46:08 AM
[icecreamman] Friday, December 10, 2010 8:53:22 AM
I agree, that is the stupidest thing I have ever read or heard in my life. What are you thinking bringing back Dave Holland? Scott is the best drummer Priest ever had. Scott has been with the band for 20 years now, I think he is a permanent member......... [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by JT_Small_Deadly_Space from Friday, December 10, 2010 5:16:57 AM)
JT_Small_Deadly_Space wrote:
No offense but this is one of the stupidest thing I've ever read on this forum. Scott is one of the best things that happened to Priest.
The thing is Rob has a good way of tip toeing round things. He still hasn't said the band is splitting up. He never gives a definite answer like 'yes the band are splitting and there will be no more music or touring'. 'All good things come to an end' but this is still a miscellaneous response, he could simply be talking about touring, who knows. I do now question the validity of that article on Rock AAA though.
GLORIAROMANA S.-THE QUEEN OF METAL GOD-ROB HALFORD wrote:
MESSAGE PRAY FOR JUDAS PRIEST/ROB HALFORD
O my god!!!
2011 the last Judas Priest world tour???
I just can’t believe this!!!
Why you gaved us this news already,why such suddently and why now on Christmas???
Please do some to change your minds and not dessapear at all yet,the old fans will miss you,the new ones still need you,so please don’t do that cause to live without you is almost impossible and to replace you with others,is really impossible.
Without you,Judas Priest,or without Halford and Fight,died a half of
my heart,and when Rob will not be anymore,will die all my heart entirely.
Also,any you decided or any you will re-decide in time…
I love you and I will always love you my soul band!!!
1.Why that news already,why such suddently and why now on Christmas?
For me and for most many fans,this news is the most sadly news I ever heard related to my soul band ,and the most sadly thing is that is not just a rumour but is a true thing as far as these news already appears in your official site ,and on My space and Facebook too,etc.
I admit that I knew that news will come one day,cause is some normal at your age and after more than 30 years of musical carrer,in which the music was for your only reason to live,your only way to offer your fans all what they need from albums to live shows,things from the reason which the roads were your only homes,which always separated you by close people, parents,families,and friends,so for all these,was to expect as you to stop your live activity,but I admit I never though that news will come so soon,and so suddenly,and in special now on Christmas without to prepare us the fans from time,that way maked me to wonder if there out is other reason for which you stopped your live activity now or if this way to do the things is just a tipicaly british way.
I also hope that with the help of your fan support,to change your minds in time and to still continue to enjoy us with your live activity,at least 2 or 3 years from now,that even if your activity will not be such full like until now,meaning with such many shows per year,how was until now from 2 in 2 days ,or 3 in 3 days,will be ok just some shows per year,and even if a show will not during so much,how was until now with shows for
2 hours or 1 hour,will be ok just a show of some 25-30 minutes,just to see you,but if also you will not change your minds,I hope that you will continue at least with your studio activity,even I always image that you will put all Nostradamus album on stage,like a oper,how is The Wall of Roger Water,from the legendary Pink Floyd(my favorite opera),so hope you will enjoy us the fans at least with new albums and maybe some Dvd-s with some of your old images from your carrer,and maybe with a authentical book about your entire music history,and why not with some contests to fans, from which you will can give the fans the chance to win autographs from you,or some musical gifts from you,such as posters,or magazines,like souvenirs,any,just to know that you are still there,and alive.
2.Why with that news you bring just the most knows countries in Europe?
For me and for the most many fans,the news of the presentation of just these countries in your list, is also one of the most sadly,cause in this way exist the possibility like any of us to see you last time,or other first time,but worst,other at all ever.
I admit that I knew that my country will not be in the first list of your countries,cause you discovered us so late,and you came to us just ones and almost over
your 30 years of carrer,but I admit I never though that show you gaved us Romanians,in 2008,on 11 july,in Bucharest,at Best Fest Aftershock,will be the last but also I am thanksfully to God cause he gaved me the inspiration to go there to your show and the power to do all that sacrificies to arrive at your show,such as to throught out my last job for you,to rent money for travel,and car,etc and now to no have any regret for what I done then,cause you gaved the honour to come to us,and to bring us 2 hours of unique show,in which you enjoy us with your voice and your instrumental abilites,with your beautiful songs,and your cool stage changes,but first with your simple way to be,to speak with us,to treat us and to get down to us the fans from your celebrity status,like we was equals.
I also hope that you will include my country in your actual Europe list too,otherwise,for me ,and for many other fans,will be almost impossible to attend,and for me will definetly be,cause even if it’s a shame,but still living in a poor country with a hard history which was about more than 50 years of communism and humility and restrictions for us,the humanity,and from which we didn’t recover yet even if we are a liberal country now,but also still with bad leading system,bad laws and bad economy where the most small salary ,is the most small from UE,and is about 150-200euros/mouth,and also being without my own family,meaning without husband and kids to support me,without a job actually and
without the chance to get one now with this crisis,and still living with my parents,with a sick mother and a unemployed father,and an very old grandmother about almost 90 years old,so living just from their small contribution from state,money from which we must to save mounthy,for food,for utilities,for owns in bank,for medications,etc will be almost impossible to save some to attend to these countries of the tour,with all the travels taxes and the ticket,and if you will not introduce other countries in Europe,than mines,etc to can see you,then when you will introduce the other parts of your 2011 tour which probably will be one for USA,and one for Japan,well,definnetly for me,will be really impossible to attend,and all these are not a complain but a reality in which I think most many fans are,but I still hope you will try to introduce my country in your tour list,and other countries too,where you wasn’t ever or where you have owns.
3.Why with that news you forced us to do our inventary already?
For me and for the most many fans that news,put us to do our inventory related to our memories with you which we accumulate until now,such as how many of your music we bought,how many of your live shows we saw,etc.
I admit I knew that doing my own inventory I will be very very sad cause I discovered you such late,just now 4 years ago, and I didn’t succed to have all your original music long time,but I am proud today I already have this entirely,and because I discovered you
so late,I neither succed to attend to many of your shows,but I am proud that I attend to your first show in my country,and finnaly because I discovered you so late, I didn’t’ succed to meet Rob Halford,personally,to salute him,to do a photo with him,and take an autograph,but I am proud that I got one from Scott Travis,and because I discovered you so late I didn’t get the chance to fight for arriving to collaborate with you,or work for you.,but also,even if I discovered you so late,also I am very proud that I was one of your lucky fans which got the honour to keep a short corespondence with Miss.Jayne ,your
manager,with mr.Mark ,your art editor,and with Mr.Murray,your webmaster,people which passed my correspondence to the band and to Rob,and more than this,I am proud that I dedicated all my net pages to the band,and to Rob,and I will continue to fight for your induction and Rob into Rock Roll Hall of Fame and for bring you a star on Walk of Fame,and maybe a petition for your returning.
I also hope,even if you will retry,that you Halford band with still continue your live activity at least another some years,and will enjoy us with your tours,your new albums,and Dvd-es,and maybe a book,and maybe you will thing to come to Romania too,even in my city Arad,at our Rock on Mures festival,where I hope I will finnaly can meet you Rob Halford,salute you,do a photo with you,take and autograpg from you,and who knows,maybe to talk about a collaboration or work for you,all these before I will give you my sorries for what I said and I done related to you.
Conclusion:
I still cant' belive this news,but unfortunately is a true news!
But you Judas Priest shouldn’t gaved us this news already,and not such suddenly and not
now on Christmas!
Please do some,to change your minds and not desspear at all yet,the old fans will miss you,the new ones still need you,so please don’t do that cause to live without you is almost impossible and to replace with others,is really impossible.
Without you,Judas Priest,or without Halford and Fight,died a half of
my heart,and when Rob will not be anymore,will die all my heart entirely.
Also,any you decided or any you will re-decide in time…
I love you and I will always love you my soul band!!!
Gloria Romana Suciu-The Queen of Metal God-Rob Halford
[icecreamman] Wednesday, December 08, 2010 8:09:32 AM
READ THIS:
http://www.rockaaa.com/news/official-%E2%80%93-its-not-the-end-of-priest-1300 [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by GLORIAROMANA S.-THE QUEEN OF METAL GOD-ROB HALFORD from Wednesday, December 08, 2010 8:07:10 AM)
GLORIAROMANA S.-THE QUEEN OF METAL GOD-ROB HALFORD wrote:
MESSAGE PRAY FOR JUDAS PRIEST/ROB HALFORD
O my god!!!
2011 the last Judas Priest world tour???
I just can’t believe this!!!
Why you gaved us this news already,why such suddently and why now on Christmas???
Please do some to change your minds and not dessapear at all yet,the old fans will miss you,the new ones still need you,so please don’t do that cause to live without you is almost impossible and to replace you with others,is really impossible.
Without you,Judas Priest,or without Halford and Fight,died a half of
my heart,and when Rob will not be anymore,will die all my heart entirely.
Also,any you decided or any you will re-decide in time…
I love you and I will always love you my soul band!!!
1.Why that news already,why such suddently and why now on Christmas?
For me and for most many fans,this news is the most sadly news I ever heard related to my soul band ,and the most sadly thing is that is not just a rumour but is a true thing as far as these news already appears in your official site ,and on My space and Facebook too,etc.
I admit that I knew that news will come one day,cause is some normal at your age and after more than 30 years of musical carrer,in which the music was for your only reason to live,your only way to offer your fans all what they need from albums to live shows,things from the reason which the roads were your only homes,which always separated you by close people, parents,families,and friends,so for all these,was to expect as you to stop your live activity,but I admit I never though that news will come so soon,and so suddenly,and in special now on Christmas without to prepare us the fans from time,that way maked me to wonder if there out is other reason for which you stopped your live activity now or if this way to do the things is just a tipicaly british way.
I also hope that with the help of your fan support,to change your minds in time and to still continue to enjoy us with your live activity,at least 2 or 3 years from now,that even if your activity will not be such full like until now,meaning with such many shows per year,how was until now from 2 in 2 days ,or 3 in 3 days,will be ok just some shows per year,and even if a show will not during so much,how was until now with shows for
2 hours or 1 hour,will be ok just a show of some 25-30 minutes,just to see you,but if also you will not change your minds,I hope that you will continue at least with your studio activity,even I always image that you will put all Nostradamus album on stage,like a oper,how is The Wall of Roger Water,from the legendary Pink Floyd(my favorite opera),so hope you will enjoy us the fans at least with new albums and maybe some Dvd-s with some of your old images from your carrer,and maybe with a authentical book about your entire music history,and why not with some contests to fans, from which you will can give the fans the chance to win autographs from you,or some musical gifts from you,such as posters,or magazines,like souvenirs,any,just to know that you are still there,and alive.
2.Why with that news you bring just the most knows countries in Europe?
For me and for the most many fans,the news of the presentation of just these countries in your list, is also one of the most sadly,cause in this way exist the possibility like any of us to see you last time,or other first time,but worst,other at all ever.
I admit that I knew that my country will not be in the first list of your countries,cause you discovered us so late,and you came to us just ones and almost over
your 30 years of carrer,but I admit I never though that show you gaved us Romanians,in 2008,on 11 july,in Bucharest,at Best Fest Aftershock,will be the last but also I am thanksfully to God cause he gaved me the inspiration to go there to your show and the power to do all that sacrificies to arrive at your show,such as to throught out my last job for you,to rent money for travel,and car,etc and now to no have any regret for what I done then,cause you gaved the honour to come to us,and to bring us 2 hours of unique show,in which you enjoy us with your voice and your instrumental abilites,with your beautiful songs,and your cool stage changes,but first with your simple way to be,to speak with us,to treat us and to get down to us the fans from your celebrity status,like we was equals.
I also hope that you will include my country in your actual Europe list too,otherwise,for me ,and for many other fans,will be almost impossible to attend,and for me will definetly be,cause even if it’s a shame,but still living in a poor country with a hard history which was about more than 50 years of communism and humility and restrictions for us,the humanity,and from which we didn’t recover yet even if we are a liberal country now,but also still with bad leading system,bad laws and bad economy where the most small salary ,is the most small from UE,and is about 150-200euros/mouth,and also being without my own family,meaning without husband and kids to support me,without a job actually and
without the chance to get one now with this crisis,and still living with my parents,with a sick mother and a unemployed father,and an very old grandmother about almost 90 years old,so living just from their small contribution from state,money from which we must to save mounthy,for food,for utilities,for owns in bank,for medications,etc will be almost impossible to save some to attend to these countries of the tour,with all the travels taxes and the ticket,and if you will not introduce other countries in Europe,than mines,etc to can see you,then when you will introduce the other parts of your 2011 tour which probably will be one for USA,and one for Japan,well,definnetly for me,will be really impossible to attend,and all these are not a complain but a reality in which I think most many fans are,but I still hope you will try to introduce my country in your tour list,and other countries too,where you wasn’t ever or where you have owns.
3.Why with that news you forced us to do our inventary already?
For me and for the most many fans that news,put us to do our inventory related to our memories with you which we accumulate until now,such as how many of your music we bought,how many of your live shows we saw,etc.
I admit I knew that doing my own inventory I will be very very sad cause I discovered you such late,just now 4 years ago, and I didn’t succed to have all your original music long time,but I am proud today I already have this entirely,and because I discovered you
so late,I neither succed to attend to many of your shows,but I am proud that I attend to your first show in my country,and finnaly because I discovered you so late, I didn’t’ succed to meet Rob Halford,personally,to salute him,to do a photo with him,and take an autograph,but I am proud that I got one from Scott Travis,and because I discovered you so late I didn’t get the chance to fight for arriving to collaborate with you,or work for you.,but also,even if I discovered you so late,also I am very proud that I was one of your lucky fans which got the honour to keep a short corespondence with Miss.Jayne ,your
manager,with mr.Mark ,your art editor,and with Mr.Murray,your webmaster,people which passed my correspondence to the band and to Rob,and more than this,I am proud that I dedicated all my net pages to the band,and to Rob,and I will continue to fight for your induction and Rob into Rock Roll Hall of Fame and for bring you a star on Walk of Fame,and maybe a petition for your returning.
I also hope,even if you will retry,that you Halford band with still continue your live activity at least another some years,and will enjoy us with your tours,your new albums,and Dvd-es,and maybe a book,and maybe you will thing to come to Romania too,even in my city Arad,at our Rock on Mures festival,where I hope I will finnaly can meet you Rob Halford,salute you,do a photo with you,take and autograpg from you,and who knows,maybe to talk about a collaboration or work for you,all these before I will give you my sorries for what I said and I done related to you.
Conclusion:
I still cant' belive this news,but unfortunately is a true news!
But you Judas Priest shouldn’t gaved us this news already,and not such suddenly and not
now on Christmas!
Please do some,to change your minds and not desspear at all yet,the old fans will miss you,the new ones still need you,so please don’t do that cause to live without you is almost impossible and to replace with others,is really impossible.
Without you,Judas Priest,or without Halford and Fight,died a half of
my heart,and when Rob will not be anymore,will die all my heart entirely.
Also,any you decided or any you will re-decide in time…
I love you and I will always love you my soul band!!!
Gloria Romana Suciu-The Queen of Metal God-Rob Halford
[icecreamman] Wednesday, December 08, 2010 8:06:14 AM
http://www.rockaaa.com/news/official-%E2%80%93-its-not-the-end-of-priest-1300 [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by icecreamman from Wednesday, December 08, 2010 6:47:25 AM)
icecreamman wrote:
I cant beleive this is happening! I read the news last night and slept on it so i wouldn't bitch about it like a lot of us. I feel like a someone close to me just died, just 7 years ago we were all filled with hope and excitment with Priest reuniting, and now it may be all over. What bothers me is that Rob and KK spoke on how Priest had a few more years left in them. Also, notice how the press realese also states "World Tour". Does that mean they will countinue touring on a limited level? Rob also mentioned a new album in an interveiw a couple of months ago, and with the European leg of the tour ending in august, it doesn't leave much time for the US. So I envision them touring in 2012, their 40th annaversery with Rob. This may not truly be be the end, but if it is, it has been good. Priest are my favorite band, always will be. Unlike some of us, I believe Priest have been kicking ass since they reunited with Rob. Their music changed my life and many others. They have been the MOST influential artist on my music and on any metal artist.
HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote:
Well, I just came back from seeing HALFORD and Ozzy in Grand Rapids, Michigan tonight. FUCKING AWESOME!!!! Rob was incredible and this did not seem like a man that is ready to retire. But Priest is a band and if even one member is done, they will NOT replace him.
I love this band more than anything and all the bullshit I'm reading from some people just pisses me off! When Rob said tonight that he would be back next year with Priest, I don't know, there was just something about how he said it - he seemed sad.
If you are or ever were a Priest fan, GET OFF YOUR ASS AND COME TO SEE THEM AND SUPPORT THEM! I know I will go to every single show that I can make it to.
THANK YOU FOR ALL THE INCREDIBLE MUSIC AND SHOWS - YOU TRULY ARE AND ALWAYS WILL BE THE METAL GODS!!! Edited at: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 12:01:07 AM
[icecreamman] Wednesday, December 08, 2010 6:47:25 AM
I cant beleive this is happening! I read the news last night and slept on it so i wouldn't bitch about it like a lot of us. I feel like a someone close to me just died, just 7 years ago we were all filled with hope and excitment with Priest reuniting, and now it may be all over. What bothers me is that Rob and KK spoke on how Priest had a few more years left in them. Also, notice how the press realese also states "World Tour". Does that mean they will countinue touring on a limited level? Rob also mentioned a new album in an interveiw a couple of months ago, and with the European leg of the tour ending in august, it doesn't leave much time for the US. So I envision them touring in 2012, their 40th annaversery with Rob. This may not truly be be the end, but if it is, it has been good. Priest are my favorite band, always will be. Unlike some of us, I believe Priest have been kicking ass since they reunited with Rob. Their music changed my life and many others. They have been the MOST influential artist on my music and on any metal artist. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS from Tuesday, December 07, 2010 11:53:03 PM)
HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote:
Well, I just came back from seeing HALFORD and Ozzy in Grand Rapids, Michigan tonight. FUCKING AWESOME!!!! Rob was incredible and this did not seem like a man that is ready to retire. But Priest is a band and if even one member is done, they will NOT replace him.
I love this band more than anything and all the bullshit I'm reading from some people just pisses me off! When Rob said tonight that he would be back next year with Priest, I don't know, there was just something about how he said it - he seemed sad.
If you are or ever were a Priest fan, GET OFF YOUR ASS AND COME TO SEE THEM AND SUPPORT THEM! I know I will go to every single show that I can make it to.
THANK YOU FOR ALL THE INCREDIBLE MUSIC AND SHOWS - YOU TRULY ARE AND ALWAYS WILL BE THE METAL GODS!!! Edited at: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 12:01:07 AM
[icecreamman] Thursday, October 28, 2010 10:17:30 PM
They should let Hellrider design Rob's stage outfit for the next tour. Could you imagine how metal that would be? [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Tuesday, October 26, 2010 3:23:56 AM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
I hope either Ken,Glenn or Rob peek at this forum at least once in the last year because if they have they may have read this hunger for "metal" from alot of us in here,if so that may make a difference when they go to record the next album,I know it sounds far out there but really its not,you never know what they may think
The odds are perhaps Rob took a look at Hellrider's request for a bone crunching blistering metal album and who knows....hellrider may be the very reason a heavy ass album may be recorded! HAHA wouldn't that be some funny shit or what,if so they ought to give hails to hellrider in the cd booklet!!!!! lol!
icecreamman wrote:
Made of Metal is definatly not Angel of Retribution by any means. Angel is a great fucking album! I dont like Roy Z's production though, maybe if Tom Allom remixed it Hellrider would like it. (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Sunday, October 24, 2010 2:56:54 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
I totally agree. A NASCAR on the cover of the album? And yes,those lyrics spank of child-like-3rd grade ideas. Some of the music ("some") is ok like the song structure in the song "Made Of Metal"....the way it starts out....even the way Halford starts singing this track with the lyrics is ok....and then BAM! The chorus kicks in with the poor lyrics and it utterly destroys the song and turns it into kindergarten material with a G-rated disney approach. All the songs on this LP are like this,and it just baffles my fucking brian ......"why"?
I think when Rob did crucible he was trying to be more serious because he was out of Priest,but now with the Winter Songs idea and now the Nascar shit I think he is pulling a fast one on his long time fans,he really is aiming this record towards another audience altogether but he realizes that his long time fans will buy the album unconditionally,well....I didn't buy it and "I'm not buying it". What happened to the "metal" ?
I mean Angel Of Retribution was a heavy metal record and a damn good one at that because 99% of members here say so...the 1% that doesn't is only one member "hellrider" and yes,he is entitled to his opinion,but 99% of fans in this forum love the album besides the last track "Lochness"...and then after that album......where did it all go? Nostradamus....then Winter Songs....then Made Of Metal......all 3 are backed up by fans that claim Priest is just experimenting...oh Rob is just getting things off his chest that he can't do in Priest....blah blah blah....ITS BEEN ALMOST 6 FUCKING YEARS SINCE WE ALL GOT SOME REAL "METAL" GUYS"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Necroticist wrote:
The lyrics are summat i'd write on the toilet suffering a hangover and catering for the lowest common denominator...honestly...Rob can do better...imo
[icecreamman] Monday, October 25, 2010 10:37:32 PM
There comes a time in a NFL players career were hehas to admit he is done. Brett has had a little trouble with that. I just hope he does not come back next year!
[icecreamman] Monday, October 25, 2010 10:00:47 PM
EVERYTHING WILL SHATTER WHEN THE MIGHTY JUDAS PRIEST RECORDS THIS NEW ALBUM! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by hellrider 31038 from Monday, October 25, 2010 9:58:59 PM)
hellrider 31038 wrote:
ROB HALFORD THE METAL GODS VOLCALS ARE GOING TO BE SO INTENSE YOU WILL NEED TO PROTECT YOUR FACE.HERE YOU GO MAN I HAVE A EXTRA 1.JUST DONT FORGET TO GIVE IT BACK.HOPEFULLY IT DOES NOT SHATTER.
icecreamman wrote:
Robs vocals will be so intense the lyrics will be in all caps!!!! (Quoting Message by hellrider 31038 from Monday, October 25, 2010 7:06:18 PM)
hellrider 31038 wrote:
HEELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL YEEEAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
MY METAL BROTHER PUT IT THERE MAN TO THE SCREEN
ALL CAPS FOR ALL OF US
JUDAS PRIEST
HEAVY MEEEETTTTT TTTTTAAAAAALLLLLL
BACK AND WITH A VENGEANCE LIKE NEVER BEFORE
FULL ON AND IN OUR FACE
WITH THE ULTIMATE IN METAL
THIS IS A WARNING
icecreamman wrote:
HELL YES HELLRIDER! THE MIGHTY PRIEST MACHINE ARE CREATING THE ULTIMATE METAL MONSTER FOR US HARDCORE PRIEST FANS!
all caps just for you!
hellrider 31038 wrote:
THE HELLRIDER WILL TELL YOU WHAT THEY ARE DOING
THEY ARE FORGING THE (ULTIMATE) GREATEST MOST POWERFULL HEAVY METAL ALBUM EVER MAN
HEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL YEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
SCREAMING IT OUT WITH MY FIST IN THE AIR
JUDAS PRIEST
MASTERS OF METAL
BACK AND WITH A VENGEANCE LIKE NEVER BEFORE
FULL ON AND IN OUR FACE
(Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Wednesday, October 20, 2010 12:54:17 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
I know it has(lol!) I was being funny hellrider....I was saying the can re-remaster it and re-remix it another time lol! What are these lazy guys in Priest doing? They are not allowed to take time off!!! Get back to work K.K. & Glenn! lol!
hellrider 31038 wrote:
its allready been remastered COMMANDER lol. PAINKILLER STYLE ,KICK AS? GUITAR SOLOS, INTENSE POWER AND ENERGY EVERYTHING KILLER ABOUT THE PAINKILLER BUT DIFFERENT TO CREATE A NEW JUDAS PRIEST METAL MONSTER WITH ITS OWN CHARACTER AND FEEL.
THEY WILL UNLEASH A NEW ALBUM ULTIMATE METAL MONSTER SOON I REALLY FEEL IT BIG TIME MAN VERY EXCITING THINKING ABOUT IT.ANYTIME THEY WILL PROBABLY WAMO (BLAST) US IN THE FACE WITH NEWS OR SOMETHING.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Hey hellrider,if they don't release a new album,they can remix and remaster the "Painkiller" album and shove that off as a new album haha!
hellrider 31038 wrote:
AND MIGHTY PAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAINKILLLLLLLLLLLLER STYLE FOR ALL TRACKS(METAL MONSTERS)
with the RAM IT DOWN AND DEFENDERS METAL MONSTER AND HELLRIDER I WAS THINKING THEY KICK THEM UP A NOTCH MORE HARD CORE TO MAKE IT THE ALBUM MORE FULL ON. ALSO SAME GUITAR SOUND THROUGH OUT ALBUM METAL MONSTER Edited at: Monday, October 18, 2010 4:03:37 PM
Made of Metal is definatly not Angel of Retribution by any means. Angel is a great fucking album! I dont like Roy Z's production though, maybe if Tom Allom remixed it Hellrider would like it. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Sunday, October 24, 2010 2:56:54 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
I totally agree. A NASCAR on the cover of the album? And yes,those lyrics spank of child-like-3rd grade ideas. Some of the music ("some") is ok like the song structure in the song "Made Of Metal"....the way it starts out....even the way Halford starts singing this track with the lyrics is ok....and then BAM! The chorus kicks in with the poor lyrics and it utterly destroys the song and turns it into kindergarten material with a G-rated disney approach. All the songs on this LP are like this,and it just baffles my fucking brian ......"why"?
I think when Rob did crucible he was trying to be more serious because he was out of Priest,but now with the Winter Songs idea and now the Nascar shit I think he is pulling a fast one on his long time fans,he really is aiming this record towards another audience altogether but he realizes that his long time fans will buy the album unconditionally,well....I didn't buy it and "I'm not buying it". What happened to the "metal" ?
I mean Angel Of Retribution was a heavy metal record and a damn good one at that because 99% of members here say so...the 1% that doesn't is only one member "hellrider" and yes,he is entitled to his opinion,but 99% of fans in this forum love the album besides the last track "Lochness"...and then after that album......where did it all go? Nostradamus....then Winter Songs....then Made Of Metal......all 3 are backed up by fans that claim Priest is just experimenting...oh Rob is just getting things off his chest that he can't do in Priest....blah blah blah....ITS BEEN ALMOST 6 FUCKING YEARS SINCE WE ALL GOT SOME REAL "METAL" GUYS"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Necroticist wrote:
The lyrics are summat i'd write on the toilet suffering a hangover and catering for the lowest common denominator...honestly...Rob can do better...imo
Robs vocals will be so intense the lyrics will be in all caps!!!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by hellrider 31038 from Monday, October 25, 2010 7:06:18 PM)
hellrider 31038 wrote:
HEELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL YEEEAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
MY METAL BROTHER PUT IT THERE MAN TO THE SCREEN
ALL CAPS FOR ALL OF US
JUDAS PRIEST
HEAVY MEEEETTTTT TTTTTAAAAAALLLLLL
BACK AND WITH A VENGEANCE LIKE NEVER BEFORE
FULL ON AND IN OUR FACE
WITH THE ULTIMATE IN METAL
THIS IS A WARNING
icecreamman wrote:
HELL YES HELLRIDER! THE MIGHTY PRIEST MACHINE ARE CREATING THE ULTIMATE METAL MONSTER FOR US HARDCORE PRIEST FANS!
all caps just for you!
hellrider 31038 wrote:
THE HELLRIDER WILL TELL YOU WHAT THEY ARE DOING
THEY ARE FORGING THE (ULTIMATE) GREATEST MOST POWERFULL HEAVY METAL ALBUM EVER MAN
HEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL YEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
SCREAMING IT OUT WITH MY FIST IN THE AIR
JUDAS PRIEST
MASTERS OF METAL
BACK AND WITH A VENGEANCE LIKE NEVER BEFORE
FULL ON AND IN OUR FACE
(Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Wednesday, October 20, 2010 12:54:17 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
I know it has(lol!) I was being funny hellrider....I was saying the can re-remaster it and re-remix it another time lol! What are these lazy guys in Priest doing? They are not allowed to take time off!!! Get back to work K.K. & Glenn! lol!
hellrider 31038 wrote:
its allready been remastered COMMANDER lol. PAINKILLER STYLE ,KICK AS? GUITAR SOLOS, INTENSE POWER AND ENERGY EVERYTHING KILLER ABOUT THE PAINKILLER BUT DIFFERENT TO CREATE A NEW JUDAS PRIEST METAL MONSTER WITH ITS OWN CHARACTER AND FEEL.
THEY WILL UNLEASH A NEW ALBUM ULTIMATE METAL MONSTER SOON I REALLY FEEL IT BIG TIME MAN VERY EXCITING THINKING ABOUT IT.ANYTIME THEY WILL PROBABLY WAMO (BLAST) US IN THE FACE WITH NEWS OR SOMETHING.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Hey hellrider,if they don't release a new album,they can remix and remaster the "Painkiller" album and shove that off as a new album haha!
hellrider 31038 wrote:
AND MIGHTY PAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAINKILLLLLLLLLLLLER STYLE FOR ALL TRACKS(METAL MONSTERS)
with the RAM IT DOWN AND DEFENDERS METAL MONSTER AND HELLRIDER I WAS THINKING THEY KICK THEM UP A NOTCH MORE HARD CORE TO MAKE IT THE ALBUM MORE FULL ON. ALSO SAME GUITAR SOUND THROUGH OUT ALBUM METAL MONSTER Edited at: Monday, October 18, 2010 4:03:37 PM
[icecreamman] Saturday, October 23, 2010 8:56:07 PM
HELL YES HELLRIDER! THE MIGHTY PRIEST MACHINE ARE CREATING THE ULTIMATE METAL MONSTER FOR US HARDCORE PRIEST FANS!
all caps just for you! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by hellrider 31038 from Wednesday, October 20, 2010 7:26:58 PM)
hellrider 31038 wrote:
THE HELLRIDER WILL TELL YOU WHAT THEY ARE DOING
THEY ARE FORGING THE (ULTIMATE) GREATEST MOST POWERFULL HEAVY METAL ALBUM EVER MAN
HEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL YEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
SCREAMING IT OUT WITH MY FIST IN THE AIR
JUDAS PRIEST
MASTERS OF METAL
BACK AND WITH A VENGEANCE LIKE NEVER BEFORE
FULL ON AND IN OUR FACE
(Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Wednesday, October 20, 2010 12:54:17 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
I know it has(lol!) I was being funny hellrider....I was saying the can re-remaster it and re-remix it another time lol! What are these lazy guys in Priest doing? They are not allowed to take time off!!! Get back to work K.K. & Glenn! lol!
hellrider 31038 wrote:
its allready been remastered COMMANDER lol. PAINKILLER STYLE ,KICK AS? GUITAR SOLOS, INTENSE POWER AND ENERGY EVERYTHING KILLER ABOUT THE PAINKILLER BUT DIFFERENT TO CREATE A NEW JUDAS PRIEST METAL MONSTER WITH ITS OWN CHARACTER AND FEEL.
THEY WILL UNLEASH A NEW ALBUM ULTIMATE METAL MONSTER SOON I REALLY FEEL IT BIG TIME MAN VERY EXCITING THINKING ABOUT IT.ANYTIME THEY WILL PROBABLY WAMO (BLAST) US IN THE FACE WITH NEWS OR SOMETHING.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Hey hellrider,if they don't release a new album,they can remix and remaster the "Painkiller" album and shove that off as a new album haha!
hellrider 31038 wrote:
AND MIGHTY PAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAINKILLLLLLLLLLLLER STYLE FOR ALL TRACKS(METAL MONSTERS)
with the RAM IT DOWN AND DEFENDERS METAL MONSTER AND HELLRIDER I WAS THINKING THEY KICK THEM UP A NOTCH MORE HARD CORE TO MAKE IT THE ALBUM MORE FULL ON. ALSO SAME GUITAR SOUND THROUGH OUT ALBUM METAL MONSTER Edited at: Monday, October 18, 2010 4:03:37 PM
[icecreamman] Saturday, August 21, 2010 9:49:55 PM
I recently organized a day in my home town were all us metal heads would call radio stations all day and DEMAND HEAVY METAL. Not just rock sations either, ALL radio sations. I thought it would just be cool if more of the metal community got involved in it. Since the "Mainstream" doesn't think we excist, we will show them. If you like the idea please tell anyone that might like to help. Thank You. Sorry that I created a whole new thread for this but I thought it would be the best way to post it.
[icecreamman] Wednesday, August 18, 2010 6:26:03 PM
I have to agree JD. Add me to the 95%. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Wednesday, August 18, 2010 1:03:53 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Yes paorcamp the album is 100% "SHIT". Brian Evans is an asshole and a "loser" in life as everybody obviously already knows,but thats NOT why I bash "Iron Laimen". I bash Iron Laimen because they are mother fuckin "Lame". If they would of put out a decent album like Piece Of Mind or Powerslave I would of just shut my mouth and gave credit where credit is due,but "The Final Frontier"? Oh fuck no way!
95% of the Saxon forum thinks the album is 100% shit as well as this site,and as well as the Halford site too.There is only about 5% of fanboys that like it and would suck Dickinson's balls if he asked them too,actually they would do it without him asking. Don't just take my word,go and have a full listen yourself,this album is horrible.
The latest Saxon LP "Into The Labyrinth"(13 songs) may not be thier best as the single "Live To Rock" is 100% "crap" and fucking stupid and embarrassing as well as one more track in "Hellcat"(fucking totally weak!) but at least the rest of the 11 songs are quality decent Saxon,I can't come close to saying that about the final frontier.
These opinions about Iron Laimen would be here rather Evans is here or not,thats what that dumb fucker doesn't realize,but nobody expected him to figure this out as everybody knows that he is not that smart.What a loser.
paorcamp wrote:
well, I'll have to listen to it to have a valid opinion about the album but the fact that the last ones haven't been worth listening to makes it very hard to take the time with this one...so far I can say that I really hate what they did to eddie...even when he changes always and we see something different in every album cover, he keeps like the same distinctive characteristics that makes you recognize him whenever you see it...but this one is bad as hell!! and he doesn't even look like "an eddie"...I think the artwork is crap, and it does not even encourage me to listen to its content ...mainly after reading JD's comments...and maybe many people feel the same way
so I'll keep listening to the real albums...the old ones...
I also think they are coming to be what metallica or shitallica currently achieved...shit! and yes...another influential and important band in our metal world leaves our side to join the happy world ruled by money....next think we'll see is that they support some kind of "asian dream" or that they're having "a beautiful day"...that's treason to their roots...and very disappointing...
I prefer DOF to SFV, it's close but I prefer Defenders. Take these Chains ruins SFV, I actually like Fever. Not a bad song on DOF at least not in my opinion. AOR is great also, Revolution is a track I can sometimes get into. The rest of AOR is killer, to me again. Painkiller is another great album, British Steel and Stained Class also. Each with thier own sound and personalities. I think Sin after Sin is one of the most influental metal albums of all time, but some people do not agree with me that is the way it is. I love Freewheel Burning (I HATE THE VIDEO), some of you do not. If everyone agreed the board would suck. That is the way it is.
I prefer DOF to SFV, it's close but I prefer Defenders. Take these Chains ruins SFV, I actually like Fever. Not a bad song on DOF at least not in my opinion. AOR is great also, Revolution is a track I can sometimes get into. The rest of AOR is killer, to me again. Painkiller is another great album, British Steel and Stained Class also. Each with thier own sound and personalities. I think Sin after Sin is one of the most influental metal albums of all time, but some people do not agree with me that is the way it is. I love Freewheel Burning (I HATE THE VIDEO), some of you do not. If everyone agreed the board would suck. That is the way it is.
LOL! But everything Iron Maiden touches is pure gold J.D.! I want Priest to do a classic British heavy metal album, and it be great in its own right. Painkiller is a metal masterpiece but Priest have created other fantastic albums.
To me Defenders has always been better than Screaming, and also two different albums. The songs off of Defenders were much darker and heavier than what was on Screaming.Screaming to me had a lot of filler material, where every song on Defenders are kick ass. Both are excellent, but I prefer Defenders of the Faith.
The two most underated guitarist ever are going to rip the critics faces of with there intense rifs and solos. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by hellrider 31038 from Wednesday, July 21, 2010 5:51:56 PM)
hellrider 31038 wrote:
ARE YOU READY FOR THIS INTENSE AXE ATTACK .
icecreamman wrote:
Just think Glenn and KK can be putting down riffs right now!
hellrider 31038 wrote:
NOW THE PRIEST BEAST METAL MACHINE ARE GOING TO STORM BACK WITH ? KILLER NAME WITH HOPEFULLY ENDING WITH A ER
icecreamman wrote:
Remember 2wo, Halford stormed back with Resurrection! Edited at: Saturday, July 17, 2010 9:02:28 AM
Just think Glenn and KK can be putting down riffs right now! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by hellrider 31038 from Saturday, July 17, 2010 2:16:11 PM)
hellrider 31038 wrote:
NOW THE PRIEST BEAST METAL MACHINE ARE GOING TO STORM BACK WITH ? KILLER NAME WITH HOPEFULLY ENDING WITH A ER
icecreamman wrote:
Remember 2wo, Halford stormed back with Resurrection! Edited at: Saturday, July 17, 2010 9:02:28 AM
Iron Maiden are a bunch of egotistical jerks! To even be considered a great band is a joke! I used to have respect for that band, but now what a joke. OH man, and don't get me strarted on the maiden fanboys. I will go as far as to say this..... THE WORST PRIEST ALBUM IS BETTER THAN THE GREATEST MAIDEN ALBUM! PRIEST MURDER MAIDEN. PERIOD. To even mention Priest and Maiden in the same sentence is a sin. iron maiden CAN FALL TO THIER KNEES AND BOW TO THE METAL GODS!!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by hellrider 31038 from Monday, July 19, 2010 6:02:24 PM)
hellrider 31038 wrote:
HELL YEAH MY METAL BROTHER THE HEEEEELLLLLLLRRRRRIIIIIDDDDDDEEEEERRRRRR. DOWN THE IRONS .i can also say this
I THINK THEY TOTALLY SUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
PRIEST FUC?EN RUUUUUULLLLLEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
AAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH(WITH MY HEAD TILTED BACK)
icecreamman wrote:
Can anyone say DOWN THE IRONS!!!!!!!!!
hellrider 31038 wrote:
.iron maiden can get on there knees and bow to the MASTERS OF MEEETTT TTTAAALLL Edited at: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 5:25:39 PM Edited at: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 5:26:00 PM
But....... Painkiller destroys anything that Maiden has put out over the past 20 years! I would rather have a band that has not put out as many albums but has put out quality albums, to a band that is constantly putting out more worthless albums. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Brian_Evans from Sunday, July 18, 2010 4:37:17 PM)
Brian_Evans wrote:
Since 1990 after the release of Final Frontier Maiden will have released 7 studio albums compared to Priest's 4 studio albums since 1990. So now who's more consistant bud???? That's right, Maiden is. End of story. It took them 7 years to release Jugulator. I know it was becaues Rob Halford left but still the numbers don't lie. $100.00 bucks?? Ooooooooo, last of the big spenders!!! lol!
"Brian, what'chu talkin' 'bout? The most "consistent" band ever is Saxon." rofl!!! Vailliant 3.0
(Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Sunday, July 18, 2010 1:53:11 PM) Edited at: Sunday, July 18, 2010 4:49:40 PM
Can anyone say DOWN THE IRONS!!!!!!!!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by hellrider 31038 from Wednesday, July 07, 2010 5:23:51 PM)
hellrider 31038 wrote:
.iron maiden can get on there knees and bow to the MASTERS OF MEEETTT TTTAAALLL Edited at: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 5:25:39 PM Edited at: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 5:26:00 PM
I agree also, I think "greatest hits" cd's should be outlawed! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Budred from Sunday, July 18, 2010 9:57:46 AM)
Budred wrote:
Agreed!!!
I just read the news section before coming here. I thought the same thing.
I'm not wasting my money or my (time) downloading this.
WTF!!! Something new damn-it.
Hope to see Halford in Pittsburgh(actually that's Burgettstown) Pa.
Peace all.
ron h wrote:
Okay, I have to chime in here. If something sucks, it sucks regardless. This new release of the SETLIST series is of Priest and I couldn't be more disappointed. I don't want anymore re-releases of previously released material...I WANT A NEW RELEASE FULL OF BRAND SPANKING NEW MATERIAL!!! Until THAT comes, I will NOT waste my money. Crap, they're not even touring this year and I've heard of no future plans of a tour.
Thank GOD Ozzfest is around the corner and Rob will be there. Hopefully my thirst for live Metal will then be quenched!!
I am totally faking were I live, but I wanted to help you guys. Anything to DEFEND THE FAITH!!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by hellrider 31038 from Thursday, July 15, 2010 9:32:46 PM)
hellrider 31038 wrote:
http://www.fanshake.com/
ok i started the DEMAND in toronto ontario here is YOUR SHOT AT DEMANDING HIM WHERE YOU LIVE
in case you are wondering what is going on
Halford: “We’ll look at what, realistically, this new Halford IV release will afford us. Promoters are all about bringing a band in and what’s relevant in today’s scene. As we do the San Francisco show, the Montreal show and the Ozzfest dates, I’d like to feel that everybody will be excited to see what this band is still able to achieve. There is no point in going out without some purpose or some kind of satisfying moment that you get from being in a band and that the fans get from what you do. So, if all that clicks and connects there will be more dates coming together definitely.”
I really have a good feeling that the next album will be a classic British HEAVY METAL album, and possibly their best since Painkiller. Nostradomus did not go down to well with many fans and many have started to doubt Priest. This is were we can look at some history, after 1986's Turbo and 1988's Ram it Down left fans disappointed, JP came roaring back with the mighty Painkiller. Don't loose you're faith, Defend it! I also think Priest are more than capable of creating what could be the most HEAVY and most POWERFUL album of their career. Edited at: Thursday, July 15, 2010 6:06:45 PM
It would be awsome if Halford revisited his Fight days, War of Words is a masterpiece. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by hellrider 31038 from Monday, July 05, 2010 4:48:12 PM)
hellrider 31038 wrote:
OH HEEEELLLLLLLLLL YEEEEEEAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I THINK I MIGHT BE GOING INTO CARDIAC ARREST.
WE ARE GOING GET A DOUBLE WAMO IN THE FACE THE METAL GOD IS UNLEASHING A NEW ALBUM METAL MONSTER UNLEASHES IN OCTOBER.SUPOSIDLY SOMETHING BETWEEN WAR OF WORDS AND CRUCIBLE
AND THEN WE GET THE NEW PRIEST ALBUM METAL MONSTER.I AM IMAGINING SOMETHING BETWEEN MY 2 FAVORITE METAL MONSTERS FROM THOSE ALBUMS INTO THE PIT AND MIGHTY WRATH OF GOD.WOW MAN THAT WOULD DEFINATLY BE INTENSE POOOOOOOOOWWWWEEEERRRRRR
AAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
IN THE RUSH OF POWER 4:55:01 Edited at: Monday, July 05, 2010 4:56:52 PM
By the way, I am playing Grinder in that photo. As you can see, I am playing injured, my right paw was wrapped up. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by spapad from Tuesday, July 13, 2010 6:24:00 PM)
I could not agree with you more JD. Ozzy, Metallica, and Maiden all make me sick. Washed up and overated jackasses. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Tuesday, July 13, 2010 1:50:35 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Just saw "The Final Frontier" video all the way through and the song is absolutely terrible. Its "BORING" its weak and it sucks. This once great band is washed up,they are "pathetic" and they are mother fucking "overrated" big time!!!! Have a listen for yourselves,this shit band is getting worse! The song itself is worse than El Dorado wich is ridiculous,and the track( "The Final Frontier") is track #1 off the cd with El Dorado #2 so this pretty much sums up the rest of the album wich will obviously be a fucking JOKE. This band can't write "QUALITY HEAVY METAL" anymore,they fuckin suck and I'm tired of hearing about thier name,they are just as shitty as Metallica,and thats pretty shitty!
Becks wrote:
Just in case anyone is actually interested, a teaser for Iron Maidens forthcoming The Final Frontier. Doesn't make me anymore excited. But the fanboys commenting on the video are very very excited LOL!
Yeah, I play guitar and the first album I learned was British Steel, Grinder was actually the first song I figured out how to play. Grinder is a very song with a simple but very heavy main riff. I wish Priest would play it live more often.
HEY KK, GLENN, ROB!!! START WRITING SOME NEW MATERIAL!!!!!! WE ARE STARVING FOR SOME HEAVY METAL!!!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Mr. Dave Genocide from Tuesday, July 13, 2010 1:11:49 PM)
Mr. Dave Genocide wrote:
There's no low point to the Painkiller album, not one flaw at all. Literally 'Killer all the way through. Hell, Painkiller was the first song I ever learned on Drums. First complete album I learned was British Steel, then Painkiller was 2nd. Long live thee mighty Priest Beast. Next year will feature one helluva Heavy Metal album that only the Priest can Unleash!
icecreamman wrote:
(Glenn Tipton, Rob Halford & K.K. Downing)
Twisting the strangle grip Won't give no mercy Feeling those tendons rip Torn up and mean Blastmaster racks the ground Bent on survival Full throttle hammers down A deadly scream All Guns, All Guns Blazing Forced into overdrive Drawn out of anger All talons poison dipped Impaling spike Heart pounding fever pitch Blood pumping fury Two fisted dynamo Eager to strike All Guns, All Guns Blazing Cross cutting thundercharge Blade of destruction Flame throwing hurricane Destroys the cage Bone crushing alien God of salvation Sad wings that heaven sent Wipes out in rage All Guns, All Guns Blazing
Thaks I have been toying with it for about an hour now. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Tuesday, July 13, 2010 6:23:01 PM)
Twisting the strangle grip Won't give no mercy Feeling those tendons rip Torn up and mean Blastmaster racks the ground Bent on survival Full throttle hammers down A deadly scream All Guns, All Guns Blazing Forced into overdrive Drawn out of anger All talons poison dipped Impaling spike Heart pounding fever pitch Blood pumping fury Two fisted dynamo Eager to strike All Guns, All Guns Blazing Cross cutting thundercharge Blade of destruction Flame throwing hurricane Destroys the cage Bone crushing alien God of salvation Sad wings that heaven sent Wipes out in rage All Guns, All Guns Blazing
Hellrider 31038, you are one of my favorite members, I love you're passion for pure heavy metal. Like most of us Judas Priest is a big part of you're life, and I can relate. I guess I can be called a music geek or whatever but I obsess over this stuff. Music is my life, my being, my purpose here on earth. Without the music of Priest , I do not know where I would be at right now. They gave me a purpose, a reason to carry on. Plus Metal is all about raw energy and power. If someone has been offended by you're powerful statements, ..... they are on the wrong site. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by hellrider 31038 from Monday, July 12, 2010 5:39:23 PM)
hellrider 31038 wrote:
i just wanted to appojise if i have offended anyone with any of my comments i relise i might have come on a little stong at times reason being like you JUDAS PRIEST IS A VERY IMPORTANT PART OF MY LIFE IT IS NOT JUST A BAND I LISTEN TO THEN FORGET ALL ABOUT THEM AFTER LISTENING.
It took me a few listens to really get in to Nostradomus, at first listen I was furious. After listening to AOR for almostr everyday for 3 years I thought we would get a heavier concept album. After a few listens I found that there are some great riffs on the album (Conquest is a good example). Do I like Nostradomus? Yes. Would I like for Priest to do another album just like it? NO.
OH YES I CAN FEEL IT!!!!!!!! Just think of Halfords screaming vocals or KK and Glenns solos and riffs. Judas Priest are the definition of heavy metal and they will show us why. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by hellrider 31038 from Friday, June 11, 2010 4:13:29 PM)
hellrider 31038 wrote:
hey Icecreamman yeah hey. WE ARE MORE THAN STARVING.FUC?ING DYYYYYYYYIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG FOR NEW PRIEST TOTAL RUSH OF POWER HEAVY MEEETTT TTTAAALLL.
BRING IT ONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
ARE YOU READY TO HAVE YOUR FACE RIPED OFF WITH NEW PRIEST AND FEEL ITS MASSIVE POWER RUSHING THROU YOU
Icecreamman
icecreamman wrote:
Man, I wish JP read all of your post and realize the Priest fans are starving for a massive rush of heavy metal.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
I WILL BE SUPER HAPPY WHEN THE MIGHTY PRIEST BEAST METAL MACHINE UNLEASH NEWS THEY ARE GOING TO FORGE A NEW ( ALBUM)HARD CORE IN YOUR FACE,,TOTAL RUSH OF POWER HEAVY METAL MONSTER
Yes and No. Musically it is not Priest best album, but for what it did for heavy metal as a whole takes it to another level. If it was all about the music Sad Wings of Destiny, Sin ater Sin or Stained Class would have my vote. I love the early Priest albums.
Man, I wish JP read all of your post and realize the Priest fans are starving for a massive rush of heavy metal. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by hellrider 31038 from Thursday, June 10, 2010 7:34:47 PM)
hellrider 31038 wrote:
I WILL BE SUPER HAPPY WHEN THE MIGHTY PRIEST BEAST METAL MACHINE UNLEASH NEWS THEY ARE GOING TO FORGE A NEW ( ALBUM)HARD CORE IN YOUR FACE,,TOTAL RUSH OF POWER HEAVY METAL MONSTER
Any plans for a new album?"None at the moment. We’ve had a very busy last couple of years. And last year, we ground to a halt and took a well-deserved rest, and at some point, we’ll sit around a table and discuss the future or future projects. And that’s the way we’ve always done it. We take a break, and then we figure out what we’re going to do next."
Blah Blah Blah Blah. BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Are You Happy now? LOL. It is strang ethe whole board hasnt been that active lately. I know I have been gone for awhile, I have had a lot of close friends pass away recently, things have been tough. I am back and that is all that really matters. I hope all you guys are doing well. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by spapad from Friday, June 04, 2010 8:50:19 PM)
spapad wrote:
The Blah is silent for going on two days. WTF? Where's the love. lol
HEAVY FUCKING METAL!!!! HELL YESSSSSS!!!! I liked Nostradomus, but its time for a bone crushing HEAVY METAL album. The metal album to end all metal albums. Priest will overpower any one in their way. They will show us why the are the greastest heavy metal band of all time.
Not really comparing it to Unleashed, it does beat the shit out of all the T.O. era live albums, Priest Live, A Touch of Evil Live and Rising in the East.
I do not care if its called "A Beutiful walk on a Spring Day", I just want a new album, and as long as it is 100% in you face HEAVY METAL I will be happy.
[icecreamman] Thursday, February 04, 2010 5:54:36 PM
I have to agree with you J.D., Dissident Agressor is much heavier to me. Death is a great song, but it does pale in comparison to Dissedent Agressor. Both songs have killer solos in them.[Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Thursday, February 04, 2010 3:38:14 AM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Huh,I actually think the 1977 studio version of Dissident Agressor is heavier than the song "Death" although Death is pretty heavy,I don't think its hard core,to me its another "Lockness".Dissident Agressor to me is more "heavy metal" than Death,but to each his own.
Screamin' Demon wrote:
It's not that it sucks that it didn't. It's that Death is much more hardcore heavy metal than Dissident Aggressor is. I'm just surprised that Dissident Aggressor got such a good rating in comparison...
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Well it may suck for you that the song 'Death" didn't get the nomination but I am cellebrating that "it didn't" because to me "Death" is a very boring lame song that makes me wish they never would of written Nostradamus.Dissident Agressor steamrolls "Death" into oblivion without question.
Screamin' Demon wrote:
I still can't understand tho as to why Dissident Aggressor got the nomination. Death, from ATOE Live is simply bone-rattling to listen to. What an amazing live performance. Why didn't Death get the Nomination instead?
Still...congrats to winning the award Judas PriestIt was also very awesome to see my 2 favourite Priest members up on that stage if not all the band.
Thanks Becks, I was on edge for hours, I NEEDED TO KNOW!!!! AC/DC won best hard rock performance!!! Judas Priest finally won!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hell Yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[icecreamman] Wednesday, November 18, 2009 9:26:18 PM
Speaking of popularity, I think its ridiculous to see rappers wearing AC/DC shirts. I see people all the time with Back in Black shirts on and can not even name an AC/DC song. Well, the shirt says back in black, you cant even name an AC/DC song......., hmmmm. I am glad Priest shirts are not sold at walmart. I am shocked when people say they ''I love HER music." when I wear an Alice Cooper shirt. Really can people be that stupid?I have people who think that Judas Priest is a person. What is the world coming to? I am a Huge AC/DC fan, but I hate how they play for a more commercial crowd. I hate You shook me all night long, I wouldn't care if they never played it again. I would love to see an AC/DC concert were they played nothing from back in black and played songs from the usually ignored albums like fly on the wall or flick of the switch or powerage. Dont even get me started on Kiss.....
The Rolling Stones, the worlds greatest rock n roll band. Living Legends, right? AND some people think they are a clothing brand. REALLY? ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
You know I dont give a rats ass about popularity, all I can say is Great Music will ALWAYS be great. Pop comes and goes.
Finnally, someone thinks like me on the Def Leppard issue!!! What would Steve Clark say if he heard Songs From Sparkle Lounge? The name of that album makes me puke. High n Dry is more like it. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Resistmenotsurrender from Monday, July 20, 2009 12:24:21 PM)
Resistmenotsurrender wrote:
I dont think bon jovi ever truly believed that they were a metal band or tried to be one. however,since they had long hair,leather fringe jackets and tight jeans, it was easy to lump them in with the metal crowd. magazines like hit parader needed bands like bon jovi to sell copies, so bon jovi became a pseudo metal band by default. bon jovi is simply pop radio rock with guitar solos. i have less respect for def leppard who were clearly metal influenced and now deny and disrespect metal altogether!
What Jerks!!! It pissed me off enough just to know that he was mocking Rob, but to mock KK and Glen also! They make me sick!!! Jealousy is probably why Paul is like this, Rob is the metal God, Pauls claim to fame, ha, being in Maiden for three years, then getting kicked out!!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS from Saturday, July 25, 2009 1:30:53 AM)
HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote:
Paul..... WTF HAPPENED to you??? To think I used to actually LIKE you.... makes me sick to think about it. He's just pissed off that Rob made it and look where this guy is now, HA! He's not even fit to lick the METAL GODS boots, who does he think he is singing one of his songs? The other thing about this that really pissed me off is when the guitarist on the left started moving his guitar up and down like Glenn and KK do and Paul looked over at him and started laughing. Assholes..... song by a "friend" of mine? In my book, you don't treat your friends with disrespect and mock them. But you got yours Paul.... look at where you are playing and the crowd you are playing to, HA!
He's just pissed that Rob Halford IS and ALWAYS will be THE METAL GOD!!! Everyone knows who Rob Halford is and what an incredible voice he has, whether they are fans or not. Paul Di'anno WHO??? I don't remember anyone crying for HIM to come back like we all did when Rob left Priest.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
I WISH I WAS THERE .to bad there were no other judas priest defenders there putting him in his place and defending the metal god.what a total metal betraying backstabber Edited at: Thursday, July 23, 2009 6:22:12 PM Edited at: Thursday, July 23, 2009 6:28:20 PM
That sounds like an awsome live album [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Screamin' Demon from Friday, July 10, 2009 10:36:39 PM)
Screamin' Demon wrote:
I wish they'd have finished the tour and added some stuff from this leg too, as well as Hell Patrol. Something like this...
Rapid Fire
Metal Gods
Eat Me Alive
Between The Hammer And The Anvil
Judas Rising
Steeler
Devil's Child
Breaking The Law
Hell Patrol
Death
Dissident Aggressor
The Green Manalishi (With The Two-Pronged Crown)
Angel
The Hellion / Electric Eye
Rock Hard, Ride Free
Sinner
Hellrider
Exciter
Freewheel Burning
Painkiller
Hell Bent For Leather
Living After Midnight
Diamonds And Rust
You've Got Another Thing Comin'
I love that hungry wolf metaphor, just brilliant JD. Fans will appreciate Nostradamus like they appreciate Rocka Rolla, it may take some time but it will sink in. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Saturday, July 04, 2009 9:14:14 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
LOL! Thats cool my friend....I wan't saying that you can't create a thread,but I've noticed for some reason...when there are too many threads about the similar subject...some people don't get to see/read what you are trying to say...cause they get overwhealmed with too many threads but if a subject gets put in an already existing thread...it gets more of a response....just an observation.
I don't care how many threads are on here,I was just saying that not everybody will get your point the more threads there are....like this thread....an excellent topic....
Since it is already created...I think that Nostradamus may be more appreciated when the new album hits the shelves because I think with the new album...
it will be more of a classic heavy metal album for fans to thrive on,then after they have been thriving on it...they can reflect back to Nostradamus and try to see the "art" behind it's creation.
Right now....too many old school fans are hungry for metal...like a wolve hungry for blood!!
Cobras-Aura wrote:
Your complement about my posts and my status here on this forum are very appreciated
You're certainly right about the amount of threads I make, I have a bit of an obsession in doing that
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Cobras.....I love reading all your posts,you always have very good points of views no question and your a well respected member here.But do we have to create so many threads?
This is a good thread idea,but maybe next time we could put it in an already exsisting thread....just an idea,thats all no worries.
Cobras-Aura wrote:
A lot of people claim they weren't too satisfied by this album. I think essentially that when Priest do and finish the Nostradamus tour and release a really strong heavy metal record next time around, the fans will be able to appreciate Nostradamus a lot more when it's out of the way. I think same might have been with Point Of Entry, maybe not the strongest album but it was given a lot more appreciation after it was out of the way and out came Screaming For Vengeance. I certainly think fans should appreciate that Priest tried doing something differently and for its genre of music. It's a very relaxing album to listen to, good for anyone who can sit down and just lose themselves in the 104 minutes of music on it.
I just hope that this isnt Rising in the East Repackeged with some songs from 2008. Its makes me wonder why they included stuff from 2005. Their 2008 live stuff is far superior, hmmmmm.
My Dad played British Steel when I was a child, straight from the vinyl baby. I was probably 12 or 13 when I really started listening to more than my dads old tapes, I started buying the remasters, hmmmmm I cant really say when I became a Priest fan I think I have always listened to Priest in some way or another.
I actually almost drove to VA to see a Priest show. I cuaght mono and I was to sick to go. The tickets were free though, I got them with Nostradamus. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by spapad from Thursday, June 18, 2009 9:10:03 PM)
spapad wrote:
Then do what I do! Drive to places that have great music. Sucks to have to put in the time, but it's worth it. Live in VA going to GA all for the mighty Priest! Worth it!
icecreamman wrote:
I hate the area in which I live in, it is a dead zone for music. If isnt played on the local pop station no one knows of it. I want to burn set that station on fire, oooh, it makes me really angry. "We got All the Hits". I actually called and requested Angel of Death by Slayer, they said they never heard of a Slayer.
I go to school with a Def Leppard shirt on right, a teacher ask me "Whats a Def Leppard?''
I couldnt fight the urge. There are a lot of new threads though, hmmmmm.
Really I have always wanted to know which of these "twins" were favored by more Priest fans. I should not have created a new thread though. I am sorry guys. It is late at night, maybe my brain is shutting down. LOL
The album art for Dirty Deeds on the foriegn version looks awsome. In fact from what I have heard the guy that designed the American cover
did album art for Pink Floyd.
Metallica is mispelled. They have it as Metalica, when it shold be Metallica. But I spell it Selloutica. Edited at: Thursday, June 18, 2009 10:07:26 PM
The American division of atco thought it would offened americans. Do you TNT, and which version of High voltage do you have. The american High Voltage is TNT minus a couple of songs whit some High Voltage fill ins. America ruins everything, I love my country but we suck when it comes to music. Also Dirty Deeds has a superior tracklisting on the foriegn version.
If you want blood is probably one of the greatest live albums of all time. Please tell me you have listened to Let there be rock. Edited at: Thursday, June 18, 2009 9:42:35 PM
Riff Raff is great too!!! It was actually written in the Let there be Rock sessions. Have you listened to If you want Blood you got it? The Live album.
I was always wondering were spapad came from, hmmmmm. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by spapad from Thursday, June 18, 2009 8:50:27 PM)
spapad wrote:
I'm spapad. s is for my first name, which I think all of you know, (LOL) and papad is for my last name. A very lonnnnnnnggg last name almost no one can pronounce. LOL
I hate the area in which I live in, it is a dead zone for music. If isnt played on the local pop station no one knows of it. I want to burn set that station on fire, oooh, it makes me really angry. "We got All the Hits". I actually called and requested Angel of Death by Slayer, they said they never heard of a Slayer.
I go to school with a Def Leppard shirt on right, a teacher ask me "Whats a Def Leppard?''
....... I am icecreamman becuase I was in a band a couple of years ago, and well, I wore a Blue and orange stripped shirt with orange shorts. The guitarist said I look like a push up (a orange creme Ice Cream thingy ), and called me the Ice cream Man. By the way Ice Cream Man is my favorite Van Halen song.
For Painkiller on the new lve album, it sounds like it NEEDS some touchups. It should be tittled "Elmo Killer " LOL
You are right JD, Unleashed is unbeatable, Halford has admited to some touch ups.... but there was not that many. He had the flu that night I belive.... [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Sunday, June 14, 2009 4:53:20 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Thats not what I've read throughout the years...I heard that Unleashed In The East was barely touched up at all,thats what makes Unleased In The East unbeatable.
icecreamman wrote:
At least we know from the previews of the new live album, it doesnt have any studio touch ups on it. Like unleashed in the east.
Okay, I remember the add on TV fow the Rock n Roll hall of Fame ceremony, and it stated that Metallica was the heaviest, fastest, greatest band ever. What a load of crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!The rock n roll hall of fame is a joke anyway. I am a huge Van Halen fan but if you put Van Halen in there...... shouldnt Priest be in there. Oh well, screw the hall of "fame".
Speaking of a Priest themed music game, wouldnt it be great if there was one. You played as one of the band members as you go through the decades and see the changes in JP's music. It will probably never happen.
I looked at your profile, it seems we have the same taste in music. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by british.steel from Thursday, June 18, 2009 3:07:15 PM)
british.steel wrote:
yea idk why he got so offended, hes too dumb to see tht i said i lkaughed at his name cuz i think its humorous, im not laughing at his posts as he said to me, and the reason my knowledge is of a 17 yr old, as he said is cuz im 16 yrs old. what an idiot.
haha yea, i feel like im the youngest one here, im sure there are younger, but im a new priest fan, luv them to death!
I know, IDK what his problem is or why he is offended by your question. Its nice to see some one younger than me up here. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by british.steel from Thursday, June 18, 2009 2:49:41 PM)
british.steel wrote:
idk why his panties are in a bunch, all i asked is why his name is maple syrup.
I agree with you 101%!!!! It just bothered me when I heard some kids listening to British Steel and saying it could not have been JP, becuase it did not sound like Painkiller. Maybe they will learn.....
But really I love Painkiller, it is a great album, I just wished that other albums will get that same respect. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by spapad from Friday, June 12, 2009 11:43:45 PM)
spapad wrote:
IC, I understood your comments but you have to respect the album, at the same time, as your saying, your tired of getting to hear about as a standard they should always have.
They have done Fabulous albums over time, and we all have been loving each and everyone one of them! It's some people's opinion but by no way all our opinions, that Painkiller is the one classic.
I am a diehard fan of the Priest. I love all their albums, and the only song I would surely call on the carpet is "Troubleshooter" Oh my God! I couldnt look the members of JP in the face and tell them I like that song. It is the only truely lame song they have released over the many years they have been around.
The library of Metal they have produced is wonderfull! There is no "bad" Album. Each album has it's credibility and I know you can see that.(Quoting Message by icecreamman from Friday, June 12, 2009 11:26:59 PM)
icecreamman wrote:
I am not burnt out on listening to it. I love the album, all I am saying is that I am sick of everyone wanting Priest to make another Painkiller, okay, Painkiller was great, but I think it is time to move on. I have read reviews on other sites of AOR and Nostradomus. For AOR they say it sounds too much like Painkiller. For Nostradamus they say it is dissapionting becuase it doesnt sound like Painkiller.
In fact one of my favorite JP songs is One Shot at Glory, I have nothing against the album itself. Go read the threads, read them. I promise you on every thread dealing with any Priest music everyone jumps on the bandwagon. It is like, "Okay I want to look like I know something about Priest, I will just rant and rave about how great Painkiller is." Also, just go and listen to some other Priest albums, Defenders of the Faith or Sin After Sin, I cant name many people who rant and rave over them. They are great albums to. I encourage all fans to listen to every album. I can honesly say I love them all. From Rocka Rolla to Nostradomus, including the Tim Owens years. I really love them all. I think a lot of them are overlooked. Yes, on a few of the albums there are songs I skip over sometimes becuase I really dont like them very much, but I love JPs music, Painkiller included. Edited at: Friday, June 12, 2009 11:41:54 PM
Edited at: Friday, June 12, 2009 11:44:38 PM Edited at: Friday, June 12, 2009 11:45:41 PM
I am not burnt out on listening to it. I love the album, all I am saying is that I am sick of everyone wanting Priest to make another Painkiller, okay, Painkiller was great, but I think it is time to move on. I have read reviews on other sites of AOR and Nostradomus. For AOR they say it sounds too much like Painkiller. For Nostradamus they say it is dissapionting becuase it doesnt sound like Painkiller.
In fact one of my favorite JP songs is One Shot at Glory, I have nothing against the album itself. Go read the threads, read them. I promise you on every thread dealing with any Priest music everyone jumps on the bandwagon. It is like, "Okay I want to look like I know something about Priest, I will just rant and rave about how great Painkiller is." Also, just go and listen to some other Priest albums, Defenders of the Faith or Sin After Sin, I cant name many people who rant and rave over them. They are great albums to. I encourage all fans to listen to every album. I can honesly say I love them all. From Rocka Rolla to Nostradomus, including the Tim Owens years. I really love them all. I think a lot of them are overlooked. Yes, on a few of the albums there are songs I skip over sometimes becuase I really dont like them very much, but I love JPs music, Painkiller included. Edited at: Friday, June 12, 2009 11:41:54 PM
I used to love Painkiller, but now I am completly burnt out on it. Painkiller this, Painkiller that, I am sick of everyone comparing everything thing about Priest to Painkiller. JP has made other albums. Does anyone share my opinoin?
Turbo is a great album, although it is different. Yes, some of the songs have some stupid lyrics (Parental Guidance) , but who cares, Glenn and KK are put out some awsome riffs on this album.
I am sad to say Painkiller sucks live, they should never play it again. From what I heard it sounds decent, but it makes me wondor why Im a Rocker was omitted, it was awsome live.
I do not think that there IS going to be a "next studio album" at all,thats why I am venting my frustrations in disappointment over Nostradamus.
I think that the band are "finished" after this British Steel tour they are doing now. What a sad way to go out.They should of quit after the tour of Angel Of Retribution.
I forgot to mention that KK used a Wah Wah pedal for both Jugalator and Demolition, in case you are not aware he does not normally use one. Listen to Jugalator and any other Priest album, it sounds quite a bit different, and yes Tim Owens is the vocalist, just listen to the overall sound of the album. Its was experimental. Admit it.
My friend downloaded it for free just for me to listen to.Besides,youtube has all songs to listen to in its entirety.
And they did not experiment with Jugulator...all the songs run the same formula as Painkiller,Angel Of Retribution..ect......what is experimental about Jugulator? Nothing.
I am against "experimentation". I would be happy if Judas Priest quit experimenting and focus on "heavy metal"....
I don't want "something different" at all.....I want the same thing year after year......HEAVY METAL ...screaming in your face heavy metal....like hellrider likes!!! LOL!
When Angel Of Retribution was released..you didn't hear anybody complaining that "it wasn't experimental enough"??? No,fans were thrilled to hear a killer JP recording without any B.S.
Nostradamus is boring and flat,and is way to mellow and slow.
icecreamman wrote:
Actually Priest did experiment with Jugalator.
By the way, I just want to know, How have you heard Nostradomus without buying it?
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
I understand your opinion,but don't agree with it and thats alright.
But to me,Judas Priest did NOT EXPERIMENT with albums like Rocka Rolla being thier first they did not experiment,then with albums like Sad Wings Of Destiny,Sin After Sin, Stained Class, Hell Bent For Leather
"British Steel", Screaming For Vengeance, Defenders Of The Faith, Painkiller, Jugulator and Angel Of Retribution..... these 11 albums Judas Priest did not experiment with...they just wrote Priest styled heavy metal...
The albums they did experiment with were "Point Of Entry" with trying different tracks commercial like "Don't Go - You Say Yes- Trouble Shooter,All The Way - On the run....
Then the horrible album "Turbo, Ram It Down, Demolition and Nostradamus. Those 5 albums they experimented with and each one of them "failed".....every time they "failed"...they came back with a NORMAL Judas Priest album.
After experimenting with Point Of Entry....they came back with "Screaming For Vengeance.
After experimenting with "Turbo & Ram It Down"(since the two were supposed to be a double album)..they came back with "Painkiller".
After experimenting with "Demolition"....they came back with "Angel Of Retribution".
So history shows that every time they fail at an experimental album,they always come back with a NORMAL traditional JP album like I mentioned.
I think that they will do the same after failing at Nostradamus.
I also believe that most people are forcing themselves to like Nostradamus because of its epic magnitude.
I have many albums that are just as "epic" and massive as Nostradamus that blow it away because of the strong song writting.
Just my thoughts,no worries. I'm glad you enjoy Nostradamus,I sure don't,...never bought it and never will.Thats one of 3 JP albums I will never have on my shelf space.
Then take Saxon for example...they wrote thier last 7 LPs on running on the same formula,yet none of them sound "the same"....and they kick the crap out of JP's experimental albums by far.
(Quoting Message by chileansteel from Wednesday, May 20, 2009 4:16:01 PM)
chileansteel wrote:
It is a fact that we see things differently. There are some bands that always follow the same formula and it`s alright, it`s safe. But there are other bands that look for new challenges and don`t get satisfied only with selling albums, receiving money or making their fans happy, doing the same thing all the time. That`s the easy way!. Judas Priest falls into the second category. They just let their creativity flow and dare to do new things which I think is great. They`ve learned and evolved thanks to experimentation. They`ve always wanted to go beyond. If they hadn`t challenged themselves, we wouldn`t have albums like British Steel, Defenders of the Faith, Painkiller, Angel of Retribution, Nostradamus. If they hadn`t dared to do new things we would still be listening to albums in the vain of Rocka Rolla.
It`s great to see these Metal Gods stretching their wings and doing what they feel. Good musicians as Judas Priest always feel the need of inventing and reinventing. That`s why they`ve been around so long. They don`t need to repeat themselves over and over because they have the experience, musicianship and talent to create an original job and this has allowed them to be in the vanguard.
We have to consider it`s really difficult to be at the top for almost 40 years, being creative, original, doing Metal, which is a very complex style.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
I could'nt disagree with you more here. I do however respect your opinion though. I don't think its a good idea for "METAL" bands to "experiment".
Thats just my personal opinion I realise. Take people who are not Judas Priest freaks like us but still love "heavy metal".......almost ALL of them do not like Nostradamus.
I swear,if it was Iron Maiden that did Nostradamus,everybody on this site would HATE IT! LOL! Its true...lol!!!
But since its JP..........
I think Judas Priest wasted thier time with experimental albums.....Point Of Entry may have some good tracks on it,but half of them are really under-par songs that are easy to forget.
Turbo,Ram It Down,Demolition and Nostradamus all of them are JP experimenting in one way or another.
Take Metallica....99.9% of all people big tall short and small all like thier first 3 albums with Cliff the best.....and its for good reason...."the song writting".
I feel that with the experimenting on Nostradamus,it hampered Judas Priest's song writting big time.
I don't like it when bands do something different......thats just me,but I understand how,and why you enjoy Nostradamus.....I'll have to wait for the next record and hope its a normal album.
This is what I hate most about Judas Priest....they don't always "deliver the goods"..........I hate it when I have to guess what they are going to do next.....I think it sucks.
Bands like AC/DC,Motorhead,Saxon....you know what your going to get............its hard enough to write a killer album let alone trying to experiment along the way.
chileansteel wrote:
I see another point in this debate too, and that is musical growth. Judas Priest are great musicians and, fortunately for us, they are full of ideas. You say Nostradamus is a masterpiece of experimentation and I agree with you. They explored new horizons with the album. They wanted to go beyond, adding new elements, techniques, knowledge within their style.
I`m sure many of you are musicians and you know experimentation is part of it. Sometimes you find yourself stuck, doing always the same. I think it`s important for musicians to dare to do different things, to do what they feel, to express what`s inside their minds. That`s what Judas Priest did. They challenged themselves and dared to do a concept, original album. Experimental if you like. I respect their job. We all know very well that they are not a commercial band but they do what they want and feel. What`s more, they care for growing as musicians.
Again, we all "Judas Priest fans" have different musical background so we`re touched by the albums in different ways. That`s the beauty of it!
I hope the world doesn`t come to an end yet to enjoy another great Judas Priest album!!!
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
I agree. I can't understand what is so awsome about "Nostradamus"? I know we all have our own opinions and such I realise,but this album is not a masterpiece of excellence,its a masterpiece of experimentation.
I listened to the entire album again last night and it was painful,the only tracks I like out of all 22 songs are Visions and Nostradamus....the same two songs they let us hear before they released the album.
I hope from touring British Steel album again,they will retreat back to the studio and create a real Judas Priest album with "great songs on it".
Cobras-Aura wrote:
I hope the next album will be heavy altogether, and fast on most of the tracks. I'd like to see them fill it with songs the likes of Painkiller, Metal Meltdown, One Shot At Glory, Judas Rising, Demonizer, Hellrider and Death. Maybe throw in a cruisy track the likes of Wheels Of Fire and a ballad the likes of Angel and one couldn't ask for more.
By the way, I just want to know, How have you heard Nostradomus without buying it? [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Wednesday, May 20, 2009 5:03:53 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
I understand your opinion,but don't agree with it and thats alright.
But to me,Judas Priest did NOT EXPERIMENT with albums like Rocka Rolla being thier first they did not experiment,then with albums like Sad Wings Of Destiny,Sin After Sin, Stained Class, Hell Bent For Leather
"British Steel", Screaming For Vengeance, Defenders Of The Faith, Painkiller, Jugulator and Angel Of Retribution..... these 11 albums Judas Priest did not experiment with...they just wrote Priest styled heavy metal...
The albums they did experiment with were "Point Of Entry" with trying different tracks commercial like "Don't Go - You Say Yes- Trouble Shooter,All The Way - On the run....
Then the horrible album "Turbo, Ram It Down, Demolition and Nostradamus. Those 5 albums they experimented with and each one of them "failed".....every time they "failed"...they came back with a NORMAL Judas Priest album.
After experimenting with Point Of Entry....they came back with "Screaming For Vengeance.
After experimenting with "Turbo & Ram It Down"(since the two were supposed to be a double album)..they came back with "Painkiller".
After experimenting with "Demolition"....they came back with "Angel Of Retribution".
So history shows that every time they fail at an experimental album,they always come back with a NORMAL traditional JP album like I mentioned.
I think that they will do the same after failing at Nostradamus.
I also believe that most people are forcing themselves to like Nostradamus because of its epic magnitude.
I have many albums that are just as "epic" and massive as Nostradamus that blow it away because of the strong song writting.
Just my thoughts,no worries. I'm glad you enjoy Nostradamus,I sure don't,...never bought it and never will.Thats one of 3 JP albums I will never have on my shelf space.
Then take Saxon for example...they wrote thier last 7 LPs on running on the same formula,yet none of them sound "the same"....and they kick the crap out of JP's experimental albums by far.
(Quoting Message by chileansteel from Wednesday, May 20, 2009 4:16:01 PM)
chileansteel wrote:
It is a fact that we see things differently. There are some bands that always follow the same formula and it`s alright, it`s safe. But there are other bands that look for new challenges and don`t get satisfied only with selling albums, receiving money or making their fans happy, doing the same thing all the time. That`s the easy way!. Judas Priest falls into the second category. They just let their creativity flow and dare to do new things which I think is great. They`ve learned and evolved thanks to experimentation. They`ve always wanted to go beyond. If they hadn`t challenged themselves, we wouldn`t have albums like British Steel, Defenders of the Faith, Painkiller, Angel of Retribution, Nostradamus. If they hadn`t dared to do new things we would still be listening to albums in the vain of Rocka Rolla.
It`s great to see these Metal Gods stretching their wings and doing what they feel. Good musicians as Judas Priest always feel the need of inventing and reinventing. That`s why they`ve been around so long. They don`t need to repeat themselves over and over because they have the experience, musicianship and talent to create an original job and this has allowed them to be in the vanguard.
We have to consider it`s really difficult to be at the top for almost 40 years, being creative, original, doing Metal, which is a very complex style.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
I could'nt disagree with you more here. I do however respect your opinion though. I don't think its a good idea for "METAL" bands to "experiment".
Thats just my personal opinion I realise. Take people who are not Judas Priest freaks like us but still love "heavy metal".......almost ALL of them do not like Nostradamus.
I swear,if it was Iron Maiden that did Nostradamus,everybody on this site would HATE IT! LOL! Its true...lol!!!
But since its JP..........
I think Judas Priest wasted thier time with experimental albums.....Point Of Entry may have some good tracks on it,but half of them are really under-par songs that are easy to forget.
Turbo,Ram It Down,Demolition and Nostradamus all of them are JP experimenting in one way or another.
Take Metallica....99.9% of all people big tall short and small all like thier first 3 albums with Cliff the best.....and its for good reason...."the song writting".
I feel that with the experimenting on Nostradamus,it hampered Judas Priest's song writting big time.
I don't like it when bands do something different......thats just me,but I understand how,and why you enjoy Nostradamus.....I'll have to wait for the next record and hope its a normal album.
This is what I hate most about Judas Priest....they don't always "deliver the goods"..........I hate it when I have to guess what they are going to do next.....I think it sucks.
Bands like AC/DC,Motorhead,Saxon....you know what your going to get............its hard enough to write a killer album let alone trying to experiment along the way.
chileansteel wrote:
I see another point in this debate too, and that is musical growth. Judas Priest are great musicians and, fortunately for us, they are full of ideas. You say Nostradamus is a masterpiece of experimentation and I agree with you. They explored new horizons with the album. They wanted to go beyond, adding new elements, techniques, knowledge within their style.
I`m sure many of you are musicians and you know experimentation is part of it. Sometimes you find yourself stuck, doing always the same. I think it`s important for musicians to dare to do different things, to do what they feel, to express what`s inside their minds. That`s what Judas Priest did. They challenged themselves and dared to do a concept, original album. Experimental if you like. I respect their job. We all know very well that they are not a commercial band but they do what they want and feel. What`s more, they care for growing as musicians.
Again, we all "Judas Priest fans" have different musical background so we`re touched by the albums in different ways. That`s the beauty of it!
I hope the world doesn`t come to an end yet to enjoy another great Judas Priest album!!!
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
I agree. I can't understand what is so awsome about "Nostradamus"? I know we all have our own opinions and such I realise,but this album is not a masterpiece of excellence,its a masterpiece of experimentation.
I listened to the entire album again last night and it was painful,the only tracks I like out of all 22 songs are Visions and Nostradamus....the same two songs they let us hear before they released the album.
I hope from touring British Steel album again,they will retreat back to the studio and create a real Judas Priest album with "great songs on it".
Cobras-Aura wrote:
I hope the next album will be heavy altogether, and fast on most of the tracks. I'd like to see them fill it with songs the likes of Painkiller, Metal Meltdown, One Shot At Glory, Judas Rising, Demonizer, Hellrider and Death. Maybe throw in a cruisy track the likes of Wheels Of Fire and a ballad the likes of Angel and one couldn't ask for more.
Metallica should retire with what respect they still have. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Wednesday, May 20, 2009 3:31:09 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Death Megnetic is terrible,that is not quality Metallica to me,only Kill Em All,Ride The Lightning and Master Of Puppets are worthy in my book....AJFA is ok for the time...light years ahead of what they did after that album...yuk.
seely wrote:
I love Metalica, i mean yeah the Load albums are awful, and St. Anger is far from great, but some of their albums are the best metal records ever (RTL and MOP in particular), but AJFA, Death Magnetic and KEA are all amazing records, and the black album ain't half bad
Rock n Roll or Metal would not exist if not for experimentation. We would all be listening to jazz. Every Priest album has personality, beuase they are all different.
Nostradomus is great, I love it. There is no comparison to it. Nostradomus is not my favorite JP album, but it is the one that captures me.
By the way there is not any generic form of heavy metal. Thrash would not exist if it was.
AC/DC is a great band, they are one of my favorite bands. But every one of their albums sound the same. I listen to them in small portions. I can listen to Priest album after Priest album for months. Becuase they are different.
I also thought metal was about not being the same. Standing out from the crowd. Why be generic? If you think Priest are going to go generic than "You've got another thing comin' ."
I am really proud of Priest for not selling out like Kiss and Maiden. JP just moves forward not in reverse. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Maple Syrup from Tuesday, May 19, 2009 3:40:41 PM)
Maple Syrup wrote:
Dont know what to think about a new live album from 2005 - 2008. I will tell you, it'll be touched up quite a bit in studio (Overdubs) which is the norm. I guess any early unreleased stuff is already out there and we already know Priest does not "grasp the past" like Kiss or Maiden, which sucks.
Actually I know many other metal fans who are not Priest Freaks who love Nostradomus. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Wednesday, May 20, 2009 3:30:33 AM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
I could'nt disagree with you more here. I do however respect your opinion though. I don't think its a good idea for "METAL" bands to "experiment".
Thats just my personal opinion I realise. Take people who are not Judas Priest freaks like us but still love "heavy metal".......almost ALL of them do not like Nostradamus.
I swear,if it was Iron Maiden that did Nostradamus,everybody on this site would HATE IT! LOL! Its true...lol!!!
But since its JP..........
I think Judas Priest wasted thier time with experimental albums.....Point Of Entry may have some good tracks on it,but half of them are really under-par songs that are easy to forget.
Turbo,Ram It Down,Demolition and Nostradamus all of them are JP experimenting in one way or another.
Take Metallica....99.9% of all people big tall short and small all like thier first 3 albums with Cliff the best.....and its for good reason...."the song writting".
I feel that with the experimenting on Nostradamus,it hampered Judas Priest's song writting big time.
I don't like it when bands do something different......thats just me,but I understand how,and why you enjoy Nostradamus.....I'll have to wait for the next record and hope its a normal album.
This is what I hate most about Judas Priest....they don't always "deliver the goods"..........I hate it when I have to guess what they are going to do next.....I think it sucks.
Bands like AC/DC,Motorhead,Saxon....you know what your going to get............its hard enough to write a killer album let alone trying to experiment along the way.
chileansteel wrote:
I see another point in this debate too, and that is musical growth. Judas Priest are great musicians and, fortunately for us, they are full of ideas. You say Nostradamus is a masterpiece of experimentation and I agree with you. They explored new horizons with the album. They wanted to go beyond, adding new elements, techniques, knowledge within their style.
I`m sure many of you are musicians and you know experimentation is part of it. Sometimes you find yourself stuck, doing always the same. I think it`s important for musicians to dare to do different things, to do what they feel, to express what`s inside their minds. That`s what Judas Priest did. They challenged themselves and dared to do a concept, original album. Experimental if you like. I respect their job. We all know very well that they are not a commercial band but they do what they want and feel. What`s more, they care for growing as musicians.
Again, we all "Judas Priest fans" have different musical background so we`re touched by the albums in different ways. That`s the beauty of it!
I hope the world doesn`t come to an end yet to enjoy another great Judas Priest album!!!
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
I agree. I can't understand what is so awsome about "Nostradamus"? I know we all have our own opinions and such I realise,but this album is not a masterpiece of excellence,its a masterpiece of experimentation.
I listened to the entire album again last night and it was painful,the only tracks I like out of all 22 songs are Visions and Nostradamus....the same two songs they let us hear before they released the album.
I hope from touring British Steel album again,they will retreat back to the studio and create a real Judas Priest album with "great songs on it".
Cobras-Aura wrote:
I hope the next album will be heavy altogether, and fast on most of the tracks. I'd like to see them fill it with songs the likes of Painkiller, Metal Meltdown, One Shot At Glory, Judas Rising, Demonizer, Hellrider and Death. Maybe throw in a cruisy track the likes of Wheels Of Fire and a ballad the likes of Angel and one couldn't ask for more.
NICE, now its in my head. Oh well. Powerage is awsome. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by scorpion01 from Thursday, May 14, 2009 1:36:58 PM)
scorpion01 wrote:
AFTER MY LAST POST, DOWN PAYMENT BLUES AC/DC
I know that it's evil
I know that it's got to be
I know I ain't doing much
Doing nothing means a lot to me
Living on a shoe string
A fifty cent millionaire
Open to charity
Rock 'n' roller welfare
Sitting in my Cadillac
Listening to my radio
Suzy baby get on in
Tell me where she want to go
I'm living in a nightmare
She's looking like a wet dream
I got myself a Cadillac
But I can't afford the gasoline
I've got holes in my shoes
And I'm way overdue
Down payment blues
Get myself a steady job
Some responsibility
Can't even feed my cat
On social security
Hiding from the rent man
Oh it makes me want to cry
Sheriff knocking on my door
Ain't it funny how the time flies
Sitting on my sailing boat
Sipping off my champaign
Suzy baby you're obscene
Say she want to come again
Feeling like a paper cup
Blowing down a storm drain
Got myself a sailing boat
But I can't afford the gasoline
Yes that would be great, and hard to do. But they are Priest you know. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Wednesday, May 13, 2009 5:35:44 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
That would be so cool if the next Judas Priest album was thier "BEST" album of ALL TIME. That would be hard to do,but what if they pulled it off?
An album that could top Sad Wings Of Destiny,British Steel and Painkiller....one that could top all 3..........that would be the best present ever.
Alright, it seems you guys love the "serial assassin". I have thought about it and discussed it with my bandmates, and it is now offically our band name.
[icecreamman] Wednesday, April 29, 2009 1:06:20 PM
Maybe you guys got the wrong idea, it does not have to metion blood, stones, bullets or trains. Thank you though for your ideas, I just need something that sounds powerful.....
Okay I came up with two names, Bloodstone and Bullet Train ( Were did I get those names from? Hmmm..... ), but I want something that sounds more powerful. Any Ideas will be greatly apreciated.
Okay I came up with two names, Bloodstone and Bullet Train ( Were did I get those names from? Hmmm..... ), but I want something that sounds more powerful. Any Ideas will be greatly apreciated.
I am a morbid person at times, and you guys might find this strange but I wonder what it would be like to die. Its not something you can go and ask someone with experiance.
We kind of have a thrash sound,but more Priest than Slayer. Like if Megadeth covered Painkiller. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Head banger from Tuesday, March 31, 2009 12:28:33 PM)
Head banger wrote:
more details on style would help.
how about bronze cross?
icecreamman wrote:
Hmmm, guuys I know this is off topic but..... I am starting a band, a metal band. I need a name. ANY SUGGESTIONS?
Haha yeah good old spelling errors. I don't check half of what I write anyway haha. Rob does write from the heart in Priest too, he just creates a mini story in most of the songs.
spapad wrote:
Uh, Joe, I think I agree with you but I don't know about Halford being Wicker. LOL I love them, and that's all that matters. Rob writes from the heart with them. and I wish Priest would give him carte blanch to do that too! Why the hell not. That was the whole point I was getting at. Just a little chicken to come right out with it! LOL
Bazooka Joe wrote:
Why do you had to admit liking the Halford band? The were freakin' wicker. As well as Fight too. Here's looking forward to Halford 4 if it ever sees the light of day.
spapad wrote:
I have to agree, except for Loch, it was the better of the two. And this is something I hate to admit, but I Love Halford! Real, in your face metal! Great lyrics! This is what happens when Halford writes for himself? Then it's awesome! Let him to it!
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Yes I agree,but still Nostradamus is an OVERKILL. If they would of shortened it up to 10 tracks,with a variety of songs than it would of been better.There are not a variety of songs...it all swings to the slower side and is one dimensional in my opinion.And at this late in the band's career..I think its a shame that they want to "evolve"...I think that 'Angel Of Retribution" is a perfect Judas Priest album with a little bit of everything the fans wanted.
spapad wrote:
Only one thing in Priest's defence, they have always evolved. The only period I can think they didn't evolve well enough was Defenders, being SFV's twin almost, and well turbo just seemed to be catering to a larger audience than their core. Nos, is an album of verteran rockers who decided to tackle something different and it does stand alone as a good work. Is it Painkiller? No. But if everything they made sounded exactly the same we wouldn't like them.
Metallica is just sad. They just seemed to have lost an edge and a desire to do more. Trying to divorce yourself from your true roots is a joke.
Ever listened to Disturbed? Relatively new band, older stuff is a work in progress and their effort last year was truely awesome. I hope they continue to evolve as well, but not forget their roots.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Exactly spapad,exactly!! I think this about "Nostradamus" as well.Don't get me wrong here...Nostradamus is far better than any lame Metallica album by far,but it is the same thing here what were talking about.The "world" is not craving "Nostradamus" from Judas Priest......they are craving a "British Steel" and a "Angel Of Retribution" or a "Painkiller"...not something so different that it covers up your favorite band's "SOUND".
The world is not craving a shitty Metallica album like "Death Magnetic"...they are craving an album like "Ride The Lightning". No question.
(Quoting Message by spapad from Saturday, March 28, 2009 4:27:31 PM)
spapad wrote:
Sounds like a band that got too big for their own good. Why do bands think that to move forward and "sophisticate their sound" means it's what the world is craving? I understand experimentation, but they are just throwing out shit now I wouldn't play in a million years. Young people buy it because of brand band recognition, not because they true appriciate the band. IMO
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Yeah spapad,what a joke in I think 1996? When Lars came out on MTV awards and said: "Metal is dead people"......"Get Over It".
What a fuckin joke this band has turned out to be.They are the laughing stock of all time in the black/death metal underground.
spapad wrote:
They were great in their day though! Ride the Lightening! Fantastic album!
hellrider 31038 wrote:
its okay man i forgive you .lol.yeah they went from in your face heavy metal to total crap. METAL BETRAYERSSSSSSSSSS.yeah it is a real shame they were a great band.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
lol! Yeah,I was'nt thinking straight!! Man I still can't believe how terrible Metallica really turned out man,its a shame.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
whoa J.D commandeeeeerrrrrrrrrrr you used that b word my friend.lol.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Yeah Metallica fuckin sucks!! Those of us who were there in 1983-1988 know what the "real" Metallica" atmosphere was really like....they were NOT a "JOKE" at all back in the mid 80's with "Cliff" ...not at all...they were heavy metal's "future"..as we thought at that time.
When Cliff died,so did Metallica.If he was still alive,he would of left Metallica when they were writting "The Black Album"..Cliff would of NEVER been a part in this recording,not at all..no way no how.He would of formed his own band under the attitude of early Metallica for sure.
(Quoting Message by hellrider 31038 from Friday, March 27, 2009 4:47:48 PM)
hellrider 31038 wrote:
whoa man.i nearly just threw up when i heard you say the black album.no offence
Justin Kenny wrote:
I can't say I hate Metallica....I think everything they made from "And Justice..." and prior is stuff worth having. The 'black' album I liked for a time, then...much like a piece of Juicy Fruit gum, it lost flavor. I couldn't get by anything they made after that one.
I WILL tell you one thing I don't like at all....the fact that Metallica received a nomination for Rock And Roll Hall of Fame induction BEFORE Judas Priest. That......that's just....WRONG.
[icecreamman] Wednesday, March 25, 2009 1:13:01 PM
Hangar 18 is Awsome too, that whole album is kick ass [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Tuesday, March 24, 2009 4:44:56 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
I swear to Buddha....I heard "Holy Wars" while in college back when Headbangers's ball / Ricki Rachtman was nothing but a joke.
Hearing the intro to Holy Wars got me running from the back of my double wide (yeah, I lived in a "mobile home" that had NEVER been mobile more than once) and I had that album in my hands the next day. Took a Spaniard with me next time they blew throught Detroit, in fact. As luck would have it they opened for Priest!
Pro-shot bootleg of both is online...
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Yeah,I see what ya mean. I think Rust In Peace is Megadeth's best album.I do indeed like "Holy Wars".
Darth_Painkiller_0870 wrote:
Oh...I agree Metallica's first 4 albums blow away Megadeth's whole catalogue from Start to Present...hell, I didn't even become something of a Megadeth fan until they did Cryptic Writings. Even after that, it was a long time until I heard anything other than Peace Sells, Symphony of Destruction or the hits off Cryptic Writings. Even then, I'm not overly impressed with a lot of Megadeth's early stuff. There are some good songs like Mechanix, Hangar 18, Train of Consequences, Wake Up Dead. But like a select few bands, I think Megadeth has gotten better with age.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Yes Darth,I agree that "Megadeth" is better than "Metallica" after Metallica's 1988 album "And Justice For All". Starting with "The Black Album"...and up till now...Megadeth is better but I still don't have an ear for Megadeth,just not my flavor,thats all. Metallica's first 4 albums are much better than Megadeth's entire career in my opinion.But not saying that Megadeth are not good.
Darth_Painkiller_0870 wrote:
Okay...I take issue with your dislike of Megadeth. I think Youthanasia and United Abominations are kickass from start to finish! Aside from Risk and Cryptic Writings, Dave Mustaine has stayed true to metal and has written some really cool songs. Go listen to Sleepwalker, Gears of War or Americakistan off United Abominations....No comparison to Craptallica!
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
LOL! Yeah,I know its pretty bad! Thats how bad Metallica turned out to be!! Shitallica!
devils_child wrote:
What the hell is that?!?!?!?!?! Ummmm whatever shred of "like" I had for Metallicock just went out the window..... That pic belongs in the cheesy album cover thread J.D...
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
If anyone is looking for another reason to hate Metallica...here is another!!! LOL!
Hey, I bought 40 licks to, and thought it was great at the time. BUT I listened to the seconed disc. MOST OF THE SONGS WERE SEVERLY EDITED!!!! So I just bought most of the albums ( I am saving up for some of their earlier stuff).
But The Rolling Stones are the JP of Rock n' Roll, okay okay JP are the Rolling Stones of metal. They are comparable. The Beatles are credited for the 1st real Rock n Roll band, while the Stones are just on another level ( By the way I dont hate the Beatles, they are just over rated ). Black Sabbath is credited for the creation of Metal, come on, Priest had something to do with it also. ( I am a huge Black Sabbath Fan ) .
I LIKE THE STONES,HAVE A BIT OF THEIR STUFF ON VINYL...YEARS AGO PURCHASED THEIR
'FORTY LICKS' DOUBLE CD...THIS IS HOW A 'GREATEST HITS' CD SHOULD BE...AN A-1 EXAMPLE TO BE SURE,SO MANY BANDS PUT OUT THESE TYPES OF CD'S,AND USUALLY MORE THAN HALF OF IT IS CRAP...IF YOU'RE A STONES FAN AND YOU DON'T HAVE THIS,GET IT!...40 TRACKS,I'LL BET YOU'LL LIKE (OR AT LEAST KNOW) 38 1/2 OF THEM!...WENT TO THE BIG OUTDOOR CONCERT IN TORONTO BACK IN JULY 2003,IN SUPPORT OF THE CITY DURING THE SARS CRISIS...WHAT A GREAT DAY..ABOUT 450,000 PEOPLE ENJOYING THE SUN AND MUSIC...WENT OF WITHOUT A HITCH...THE STONES HAVE ALWAYS CONSIDERED TORONTO AS THEIR SECOND HOME,AND ONCE AGAIN THEY SHOWED IT BY COMING TO THE AID OF THE CITY AND HEADLINING THIS EFFORT ...TICKETS WERE AN UNBELIEVABLE $21 EA.!!!...I PURCHASED FOUR OF THEM AND KEPT ONE AS A SOUVENIR...
Rust In Peace destroys anything Metallica ever have done. But I do agree the Cliff era Metallica was awsome. After Cliff died it was like Game Over. Listen to the eraly Megadeth albums, they are great. IDK if Killing is my Buissness is better than Kill em All. Peace Sells overall is better than Ride the Lightning, to me. Ride the Lightning is still a great album, but Peace Sells is mind blowing. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Sunday, March 08, 2009 5:04:52 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
METALLICA 1984 when they still supported denim & leather!!!
Metallica's "Master Of Puppets" album blows away any Megadeth recording by soooooooooo far its not even funny to mention. Metallica's first 3 albums "Kill "Em All"..........."Ride The Lightning"......and "Master Of Puppets" are classic metal albums and excellent song writting. "And Justice For All" the band's 4th LP was no where near these first 3 albums by Metallica but it still blows away any record by the overrated Megadeth.
Now if you want to talk about starting from "The Black Album" and up till' now...then "Megadeth" is far better than Metallica of course,but I still can't stand Megadeth and own none of thier recordings.Thats just my opinion and I know yours is different but just giving you my perspective on my taste in quality metal.
Cobras-Aura wrote:
I find Metallica to be totally monotone and uncreative. The only time I ever spent any money on them was buying Master Of Puppets, and I gave that away to my house mate because I hated it. Metallica is the most overrated band. Dave Mustaine is fine where he is, Megadeth at least is cool and has some creativitiy to them. Couldn't see Metallica being invited to play with 'Priest
Well thats your opinion and mine personally is the direct opposite. I love Demolition, it is another great Priest album. But everyone has different Ideas and opinions and that is what makes music so great. 10 people can listen to a song and get 10 different opinions about it.
I would like to see more of a classic metal album from Priest. Fast, not too thrashy with duel guitar solos. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Wednesday, March 04, 2009 5:10:03 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
I think Reckless is the only worthy Judas Priest song on Turbo. Out In The Cold and Wild Nights I hear people that like these tracks and I guess I can see why but the other 6 songs on this LP totally suck. The entire side one of this album sucks.This is Judas Priest at thier worst. They were selfish for creating this burdon.Demolition was a tiny bit better but not much. Turbo,Demolition and Nostradamus are JP's 3 worst albums in the band's career by far in my opinion.
I was 16 when Turbo was released and I about cried!! For 2 years after this album was released Priest were the laughing stock of heavy metal sellin out for MTV untill they released the mediocre Ram It Down which was at least better than turbo. I hate Turbo,it brings back bad memories for me and pisses me off each time I hear it which thankfully is not that often!
(Quoting Message by icecreamman from Tuesday, February 17, 2009 4:40:38 PM)
icecreamman wrote:
I have to admit it is not my favorite Priest album, but I am 17 and most of JP's music was made before I excisted, and Turbo to me is a good album. I think a lot of Priest fans were alienated during that time period, to alienated to appreciate the album. Its like Nosrtadomus, you have to excpect something different. Both are great albums. Its a funny story that the 1st JP album I ever heard was British Steel, it was one of my Dads old records, and then I found Turbo which was on Cassette. I loved British Steel, and still do; but when I put in Turbo I remember thinking WTF? I just did not know what to think. I think that most Priest fans felt that way, and I understand. I just wish the critics would actually admire that Priest are a band who are constantly changing thier sound. I also wish JP would play Reckless live, it is a great song.
By the way, I own all the Priest albums now, and I love them all.
[icecreamman] Thursday, February 26, 2009 6:56:01 PM
I might be one of the few people who really like both singers. Halford though is the superior singer and frontman, but Tim is very talented and is a great vocalist. Personally, I like Priest better with Halford, but I loved the Beyoned Fear album and I look forward to purchasing the new Tim Owens solo album. So everyone quit bashing Rob or Tim, they are both great singers. Rob though will ALWAYS be THE METAL GOD.
[icecreamman] Thursday, February 26, 2009 1:33:35 PM
I was not talking about you dissing Ram It Down, I was just saying Priest fans in general. Anyway this is an interview from Blabbermouth with Rob from Jan 2008. It makes me wonder, what happened?
Metal-Rules.com: When JUDAS PRIEST does get out on the road again, is there any chance that any material from the two albums that you weren't on — "Jugulator" and "Demolition" — will be performed live?
Halford: Yeah and I've said this before that those two records are as important in the PRIEST world as everything else. Glenn, K.K. and I have talked about this and I'd welcome it. I think it would be an exciting moment for me to cover the tracks that my mate Tim ["Ripper" Owens] worked on while he was with the band. So again, anything is possible. Each time when we put a set list together, it gets increasingly difficult because we've got so many songs from so many records that we just have to look at the set list and figure out what the favorites are and go from there. Again, PRIEST fans around the world are always putting ideas upon what they'd like to hear us do, but I think it would be kind of fresh to pick maybe one or two tracks from both of those records and just give it the Metal God touch. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by JT_Small_Deadly_Space from Wednesday, February 25, 2009 7:06:25 AM)
JT_Small_Deadly_Space wrote:
I agree mate i always wanted to know why they never played any Ripper Material with Halford i mean after all tracks like, One on One, Hell is Home, Burn in Hell, Cathedral Spires and Bullet Train are fantastic tracks it aint as if he wrote the songs lol. I know what you mean about experimentation, KK should go back to the solo's like Sinner and Victim of Changes and Glenn could stick to his beautifully written melodic solo's like Beyond the Realms of Death and Touch of Evil. As for Turbo, i love the album, the first half is a fantastic array of tracks i mean Out in the Cold is an absolute masterpiece in my opinion and Locked in is one of my all time favourites. If you can't headbang to Private property there is something wrong with you lol and Rock you all around the world has some killer riffage! As for Ram it Down i think people would love it more if it was Holland playing all of the tracks. they even played the title track live on the RID tour and yet on the album they used a drum machine cause you can tell by the sound. Hard as Iron remains one of my favourite tracks to this day definately the best on the album. I think Love Zone and Blood Red Skies are awesome too but the solos in the title track i have to agree can't be any better, some of the best guitar work i have ever heard them do and Halford's screams literally perforate your ear drums absolute class. I wasn't dissing RID i was just merely stating that was when i was born and stating that unfortunately i never saw them live in the 80's. I love the two Ripper albums dearly and Sin after Sin, POE has 5 great tracks on which are, Heading out to the Highway, Hot Rockin', Desert Plains, Solar Angels and You Say Yes. The rest are ok but those tracks i love. I do need to listen to Sin after Sin more though i reckon!
icecreamman wrote:
Yeah the Ripper albums do not get the respcet they deserve, oh well. Scott is the best drummer hands down. Holland does not even compare.
I would like to see some "experimentation" on the next album. In other words, I want KK to whip out the wah-wah pedal, He used in the 70's and on the Ripper albums. I am just sayin it would be cool.
I would love to see some of the Tim Owens material performed live also, a Halford style Bullett Train could not be that bad. I think it would be Great.
Recently I have been listening to some Priest albums that get pushed to the side most of the time. Turbo, Point of Entry, Jugalator, Demolition, Sin after Sin, and Ram It Down. They are all great albums, but the most under rated album has to be Ram it Down. I know that Ram It Down is regarded as one of the worst Priest albums, but thats being compared to other Priest albums. That is some stiff competition if you ask me. Ram it Down is truly a hidden treasure. Yeah it has a drum machine, yes some of the lyrics arent that great, BUT Rob's vocals are perfect here, the guitar work could not get any better. Listen to the song Ram It Down, the solo is just killer. Hard as Iron is another great. I am just saying that those who diss Ram it Down need to take another listen, (Quoting Message by JT_Small_Deadly_Space from Tuesday, February 24, 2009 5:27:22 AM)
JT_Small_Deadly_Space wrote:
On the topic of the next studio album, something with the ferocity of Jugulator and Painkiller please maybe some death metal growls in their Sir Halford as i heard him doing them at Priest Feast along with some trademark screams. Something with some awesome heavy-ass drumming but back to more melodic solo's, more memorable occasions such as, Beyond the Realms of Death, Rock Hard Ride Free, Touch of Evil and Demonizer. I know its hard to put them all together but thats what i need from Priest right now. Maybe some cool bass fills from Ian too let him ring out more like on Abductors, One on One and Metal Messiah!
Edited at: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 4:52:28 PM
Edited at: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 7:06:48 AM
[icecreamman] Tuesday, February 24, 2009 7:17:38 PM
Ah, I think it was in 1980 on the British Steel tour. I have no clue where it happened. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Tuesday, February 24, 2009 7:13:13 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
I say that this one is answered.
Where and when did Rob pull a "Jim Morrison" and expose himself onstage? Edited at: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 7:14:38 PM
[icecreamman] Tuesday, February 24, 2009 7:14:22 PM
Correct. They actually had a recored deal before they split up.
It is also interesting that Al Atkins is writing a book about the early dats of Priest [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Phantom A6 from Tuesday, February 24, 2009 7:06:36 PM)
Phantom A6 wrote:
Alan Atkins - lead vocals
John Perry - lead guitar
Bruno Stapenhill - bass
John 'Fezza' Partridge - drums
icecreamman wrote:
Has the last question been corectly answerd. If so can anyone name the origanal JP line up?
[icecreamman] Tuesday, February 24, 2009 6:48:52 PM
Correct, that one was really to easy. Can anyone come up with one that is extremely difficult? [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Tuesday, February 24, 2009 6:47:37 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Chick couldn't pronounce his real name.
Phantom A6 wrote:
From his Danish (ex) girlfriend.
icecreamman wrote:
Okay Guys this should be very simple. Were did Kenneth get the nickname KK from?
[icecreamman] Tuesday, February 24, 2009 4:47:58 PM
Yeah the Ripper albums do not get the respcet they deserve, oh well. Scott is the best drummer hands down. Holland does not even compare.
I would like to see some "experimentation" on the next album. In other words, I want KK to whip out the wah-wah pedal, He used in the 70's and on the Ripper albums. I am just sayin it would be cool.
I would love to see some of the Tim Owens material performed live also, a Halford style Bullett Train could not be that bad. I think it would be Great.
Recently I have been listening to some Priest albums that get pushed to the side most of the time. Turbo, Point of Entry, Jugalator, Demolition, Sin after Sin, and Ram It Down. They are all great albums, but the most under rated album has to be Ram it Down. I know that Ram It Down is regarded as one of the worst Priest albums, but thats being compared to other Priest albums. That is some stiff competition if you ask me. Ram it Down is truly a hidden treasure. Yeah it has a drum machine, yes some of the lyrics arent that great, BUT Rob's vocals are perfect here, the guitar work could not get any better. Listen to the song Ram It Down, the solo is just killer. Hard as Iron is another great. I am just saying that those who diss Ram it Down need to take another listen, [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by JT_Small_Deadly_Space from Tuesday, February 24, 2009 5:27:22 AM)
JT_Small_Deadly_Space wrote:
On the topic of the next studio album, something with the ferocity of Jugulator and Painkiller please maybe some death metal growls in their Sir Halford as i heard him doing them at Priest Feast along with some trademark screams. Something with some awesome heavy-ass drumming but back to more melodic solo's, more memorable occasions such as, Beyond the Realms of Death, Rock Hard Ride Free, Touch of Evil and Demonizer. I know its hard to put them all together but thats what i need from Priest right now. Maybe some cool bass fills from Ian too let him ring out more like on Abductors, One on One and Metal Messiah!
I liked Metallica plenty until about 1990....and while I still enjoy a lot of what they did from "Kill 'Em All" to "And Justice...." when I first heard Megadeth, that did it for me. "Peace Sells...." was my formal introduction to them, and I looked far more forward to their newer releases than I ever did Metallica's.
[icecreamman] Monday, February 23, 2009 4:30:12 PM
I was listening today while driving. It is a fantastic driving album. Solar Angles and driving go better than oreos and milk!!!
Okay okay, that went a little too far.
Also White heat, red hot is awsome. I have not heard it in forever. Today I have listened to several Priest albums ( As you can tell ) and I have no fricken clue what they will do next.
I agree Piont of Entry is much greater than it is given credit for. I really do like all the albums. Ram it Down is another hidden treasure too, it is one of Robs best vocal performances, despite the less than stellar lyrics.
I have never seen JP live. I had tickets to see them in VA, but I had some helth issues at the time and was unable to attend. I would kill to see them live.
Heres a story for you, my girlfriend hated metal. Let me repeat HATED METAL. I let her borrow Angel of Retribution and Demolition and now she loves metal, mostly Priest and Megadeth. It is sad that my generations idea of metal is bands like Slipknot and Korn. People do not know what they are missing out on. Maybe I am just strange, I really do not like many "newer" bands. I mean my favorite four bands are as listed-
1. Judas Priest
2. The Rolling Stones
3. AC/DC
4. Megadeth
I think it is very sad though when people can not name a single member from the Rolling Stones, worst of all some kids think they are a clothing line. I wear a JP shirt to school and people think Judas Priest is a person!!! I do not claim my generation.
As you can tell I am ADD,I can not stay on one topic.
spapad wrote:
Kudos for you! I have bought most of the Priest Catalog about 3 times now. Once on LP, then again on Cassette when I got my car, then again when my record player died and I could not longer play them on the old stereo.
I think Point of Entry, except for one song, is an excellent album. I love all their stuff but there are songs on that record I really liked when I was young and still do!
icecreamman wrote:
I have to admit it is not my favorite Priest album, but I am 17 and most of JP's music was made before I excisted, and Turbo to me is a good album. I think a lot of Priest fans were alienated during that time period, to alienated to appreciate the album. Its like Nosrtadomus, you have to excpect something different. Both are great albums. Its a funny story that the 1st JP album I ever heard was British Steel, it was one of my Dads old records, and then I found Turbo which was on Cassette. I loved British Steel, and still do; but when I put in Turbo I remember thinking WTF? I just did not know what to think. I think that most Priest fans felt that way, and I understand. I just wish the critics would actually admire that Priest are a band who are constantly changing thier sound. I also wish JP would play Reckless live, it is a great song.
By the way, I own all the Priest albums now, and I love them all.
Right on about the band members Moving further in line with this topic, I think Priest should do something very ballsy, an album chocful of pure bone crunching metal, with a bit of a medieval and fantasy beast land feel to itself, much like Saxon nowadays. Into The Labyrinth (their new, ass-kicking album) would be a great inspiration for Priest. (Quoting Message by icecreamman from Monday, February 16, 2009 5:48:15 PM)
icecreamman wrote:
Rob Halford- Greatest Metal Singer
KK Downing- One of the two greatest guitarist
Glenn Tipton- One of the two greatest guitarist
Ian Hill- Bass Monster
Scott Travis- God of Drums
I think anything they put out will blow us away!!!
I heard there may be a live album out soon with Exciter on it. Does anyone know anything about it?
Also, I know this is random, is there any NASCAR fans on here?
One more thing I think Goats Head Soup is the most under rated Stones album there is. Critics bash it but to me it is great. Does anyone agree?.....
[icecreamman] Tuesday, February 17, 2009 6:14:25 PM
I agree Piont of Entry is much greater than it is given credit for. I really do like all the albums. Ram it Down is another hidden treasure too, it is one of Robs best vocal performances, despite the less than stellar lyrics.
I have never seen JP live. I had tickets to see them in VA, but I had some helth issues at the time and was unable to attend. I would kill to see them live.
Heres a story for you, my girlfriend hated metal. Let me repeat HATED METAL. I let her borrow Angel of Retribution and Demolition and now she loves metal, mostly Priest and Megadeth. It is sad that my generations idea of metal is bands like Slipknot and Korn. People do not know what they are missing out on. Maybe I am just strange, I really do not like many "newer" bands. I mean my favorite four bands are as listed-
1. Judas Priest
2. The Rolling Stones
3. AC/DC
4. Megadeth
I think it is very sad though when people can not name a single member from the Rolling Stones, worst of all some kids think they are a clothing line. I wear a JP shirt to school and people think Judas Priest is a person!!! I do not claim my generation.
As you can tell I am ADD,I can not stay on one topic. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by spapad from Tuesday, February 17, 2009 4:45:44 PM)
spapad wrote:
Kudos for you! I have bought most of the Priest Catalog about 3 times now. Once on LP, then again on Cassette when I got my car, then again when my record player died and I could not longer play them on the old stereo.
I think Point of Entry, except for one song, is an excellent album. I love all their stuff but there are songs on that record I really liked when I was young and still do!
icecreamman wrote:
I have to admit it is not my favorite Priest album, but I am 17 and most of JP's music was made before I excisted, and Turbo to me is a good album. I think a lot of Priest fans were alienated during that time period, to alienated to appreciate the album. Its like Nosrtadomus, you have to excpect something different. Both are great albums. Its a funny story that the 1st JP album I ever heard was British Steel, it was one of my Dads old records, and then I found Turbo which was on Cassette. I loved British Steel, and still do; but when I put in Turbo I remember thinking WTF? I just did not know what to think. I think that most Priest fans felt that way, and I understand. I just wish the critics would actually admire that Priest are a band who are constantly changing thier sound. I also wish JP would play Reckless live, it is a great song.
By the way, I own all the Priest albums now, and I love them all.
[icecreamman] Tuesday, February 17, 2009 4:40:38 PM
I have to admit it is not my favorite Priest album, but I am 17 and most of JP's music was made before I excisted, and Turbo to me is a good album. I think a lot of Priest fans were alienated during that time period, to alienated to appreciate the album. Its like Nosrtadomus, you have to excpect something different. Both are great albums. Its a funny story that the 1st JP album I ever heard was British Steel, it was one of my Dads old records, and then I found Turbo which was on Cassette. I loved British Steel, and still do; but when I put in Turbo I remember thinking WTF? I just did not know what to think. I think that most Priest fans felt that way, and I understand. I just wish the critics would actually admire that Priest are a band who are constantly changing thier sound. I also wish JP would play Reckless live, it is a great song.
By the way, I own all the Priest albums now, and I love them all.
[icecreamman] Monday, February 16, 2009 7:14:56 PM
Well it seems as though you are a "stock car" racing fan too. I watched Daytona as well. I was very upset that it was rained out.
I am a Kasey Kahne fan, who do you pull for ? [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Sunday, February 15, 2009 2:26:38 PM)
Deep Freeze wrote:
OK..I am almost certain that I am the only one getting ready to watch Daytona but, ...TIM!!!!! Who the hell sang the National Anthem?? The guy was terrible!!! HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ah well, almost race time!
[icecreamman] Monday, February 16, 2009 5:48:15 PM
Rob Halford- Greatest Metal Singer
KK Downing- One of the two greatest guitarist
Glenn Tipton- One of the two greatest guitarist
Ian Hill- Bass Monster
Scott Travis- God of Drums
I think anything they put out will blow us away!!!
I heard there may be a live album out soon with Exciter on it. Does anyone know anything about it?
Also, I know this is random, is there any NASCAR fans on here?
One more thing I think Goats Head Soup is the most under rated Stones album there is. Critics bash it but to me it is great. Does anyone agree?.....
[icecreamman] Tuesday, February 10, 2009 9:12:58 PM
I wish that the recording process was as fast as it was in the old days. I am just happy it does not take priest 5 ( Metallica) or eight years ( AC/DC) to recored an album. Nostradamus was done in just three and it is a monsterous masterpiece. I would just love to see how they follow it up. The Halford led Priest have been on a "hot streak".
Another concept album would be a little too much, but a great heavy metal album like Defenders of the Faith would be cool. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Before The Rage from Tuesday, February 10, 2009 7:51:50 PM)
Before The Rage wrote:
It would be amazing if Priest released a new studio album this year, or next year. I understand they're still busy with their Nostradamus plans, but back in the day they'd be touring and still have a new album out every year...
A live album would be alright, but I'm not too big on DVD's...
[icecreamman] Tuesday, February 10, 2009 6:23:48 PM
At the time I created this thread, I felt it was appropriate. Maybe I could have just brought it up on another thread, maybe I should have. I certainly did not want to offened anyone.
The fact is I own all the Metallica studio albums, and I own mostly all of Megadeths studio albums ( I am having a hard time finding The System Has Failed ) . The truth is I used to like Metallica, nowhere near as much as Priest, but I listened to them from time to time. Over a period of time, I got sick of listening to thier music. On the other hand Megadeth to me is only 2nd to JP.
I was just curious to see if anyone out there shared my opinion. I really hope you understand Deep Freeze. I can understand where you came from and I did not mean to offened you in any way. Thank you for a response to the question.
ICM, I do hope you will forgive me for what may sound rude but, perhaps no one has "weighed in" because it is really not something that required an entire Thread?? I mean, you could have certainly asked one of the other members what they thought of these bands in almost ANY of the multitude of existing Threads, no? My distaste for multiple threads is well known, so I am probably not the one to help you out but I really think you would have gotten a better response to your inquiry had you simply joined a conversation and asked your question.
Having said this, I am more of a Megadeth fan than I am Metallica, although I do like them both. I have old Metallica records but nothing new. I find that Megadeth is great but I am not a fan of "speed" for speed's sake, if you know what I mean? Anyway, I am a bigger fan of Megadeth. There. Question answered.
[icecreamman] Tuesday, February 10, 2009 12:56:46 PM
Mple Syrup,
I do not think that Dave Holland played drums for JP on the Sad Wings of Destiny album, or the 70's at all.
All I am saying is that it would be cool to hear. It is certanly true that Holland could pound away on the drums, but he lacks the complexity of Scott's drumming. I also believe that Scott played excellent on ALL of the live albums he has been featured in, and on ALL the songs that are featured on them. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Maple Syrup from Friday, February 06, 2009 2:36:38 PM)
Maple Syrup wrote:
ICM: Slow down on the what Priest could have been with Travis in the 80's thing. Holland was much more fluid and detailed than Travis. Listen to Travis play any of the Pre-Painkiller stuff and he does not have the thump nor does he play the parts with the same intensity as Holland. The Ripper, Desert Plains etc.. I'll take Holland anyday on the old stuff. Travis is all dry run sounding without the parts. Even when they did Devils Child on this past tour, Travis played it with no emotion like he has somewhere to go.. Do not compare the ERA's please!
MpleSyrp
icecreamman wrote:
You have to admit, if Scott was in Priest in the 80's some of their music would have been mind blowing!!!
[icecreamman] Monday, February 09, 2009 7:02:18 PM
I am a HUGE Megadeth fan, and on the other hand I can not stand Metallica. So I am completely biased. I would just like to hear from some JP fans who they prefer.
[icecreamman] Thursday, February 05, 2009 5:56:10 PM
Rocka Rolla- Rocka Rolla
Sad Wings of Destiny- Victim Of Changes
Sin After Sin- Let Us Prey / Call For The Priest
Stained Class- Stained Class
Killing Machine- Hell Bent For Leather
Unleashed in the East- Exciter
British Steel- You Don't Have to Be Old To Be Wise
Point of Entry- Solar Angels
Screaming For Vengeance- Electric Eye
Defenders of the Faith- Eat Me Alive
Turbo- Turbo Lover
Priest... Live!- Freewheel Burning
Ram it Down- Hard As Iron
Painkiller- One Shot At Glory
Jugulator- Cathedral Spires
'98 Meltdown- Rapid Fire
Demolition- Metal Messiah
Live in London- Grinder
Angel of Retribution- Hell Rider
Nostradamus- Future of Mankind
[icecreamman] Thursday, February 05, 2009 5:47:38 PM
Take that back, I was on a Nostradomus high. I personally think that Defenders of the Faith is their best Album overall. Their most overrated albums are - Screaming for Vengeance, British Steel, Painkiller. I love those albums, but people forget that Priest made other great albums too. The Most underrated albums are - Turbo, Ram It Down, Demolition. Just my opinion. I am sure everyone else has one.
[icecreamman] Thursday, February 05, 2009 1:10:52 PM
Dawn Of Creation / Prophecy
Metal Gods
Eat Me Alive
Demonizer
Devil's Child
Breaking The Law
Death
Battle Hymn / One Shot At Glory
Metal Meltdown
The Hellion / Electric Eye
Dissident Aggressor
You Don't Have To Be Old To Be Wise
Rock Hard, Ride Free
The Green Manalishi (With The Two-Pronged Crown)
You've Got Another Thing Comin'
Nostradomus
Sinner
Hell Bent For Leather
I know you guys are going to hate me for this, but Painkiller has never really sounded that great live. I think it should be replaced by Metal Meltdown (Including the incredible intro) which I think would be an acceptable substitute. Hell Bent for Leather is a way better show closer than You've Got Another Thing Comin'. Also You Don't Have To Be Old To Be Wise hasn't been played since the British Steel Tour
(I think) and is one of my favorite songs off that album. Also Angel is a great song and I hated cutting it from the setlist, but I did that to make room for Nostradomus. Please do not kill me for this.......
[icecreamman] Wednesday, January 28, 2009 6:29:37 PM
TURBO is a very under rated JP album. Musically it is great, it leans more towards the glam metal thing but still great. Turbo was just a change in sound and look, Painkiller was also but, everyone worships that one. I have to admit though, I love everything JP has put out over the years; even the Tim Owens era. I think the Turbo album really showed that Priest is capable of anything.
[icecreamman] Wednesday, January 28, 2009 6:05:22 PM
Master of Puppets is a great thrash album, but in my opinion it was not as good as the two previous albums. In And Justice for all.... the bass is almost inaudible.
lol!
Suddenly great bands have been visiting the forgotten land 
This is an older one..............
Saxon is kicking your lame band's ass these last 16 years and counting HAHA!!! Keep living in the 80's haha!!!
I however won't be counting down the days till the next album comes out like I was before any of this happened but I'll sure as hell be interested in it the day it comes out so I can listen to it before I decide to buy it. If the album is top notch with quality songs we might all be suprised.
Edited at: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 5:25:39 PM
4:55:01 
R.I.P. RJD
It was also very awesome to see my 2 favourite Priest members up on that stage if not all the band. 
,HAVE A BIT OF THEIR STUFF ON VINYL...YEARS AGO PURCHASED THEIR
...TICKETS WERE AN UNBELIEVABLE $21 EA.!!!...I PURCHASED FOUR OF THEM AND KEPT ONE AS A SOUVENIR...
I agree Piont of Entry is much greater than it is given credit for. I really do like all the albums. Ram it Down is another hidden treasure too, it is one of Robs best vocal performances, despite the less than stellar lyrics.
