[Nupe The Ripper] Wednesday, May 12, 2021 10:29:19 AM
Gave the new K. K. track a spin. Not only is it very generic, it sounds very familiar. And I figured out why: the main riff is exactly the same as that from the title track of Nostradamus. Seriously, just compare these:
Main riff starts from 15 seconds onwards.
Main riff starts from 54 seconds onwards.
If this is K. K.'s idea of making "new" music, yeah I'm going to pass on that.
[Nupe The Ripper] Friday, March 19, 2021 12:24:57 PM
Since everyone else knows it by now, I see no reason to to not tell it here as well (I already came out on Facebook and some of you are my friends there, so ehh). I'm keeping it brief because the Noticeboard system likes to log me out if I try to write a long post.
But yeah, early last year I finally came to a conclusion that years upon years of thinking and dreaming were a bit more than that. They were my true identity. The identity of a woman.
So yeah, I'm a transgender woman. Physical transition hasn't started yet, but I'm well along in the psychiatric evaluations so it shouldn't be long before I start that. Socially I've already transitioned (even changed my legal name) and so far everything has gone very smoothly.
That's the "big thing" I was referring to earlier. Even though things have gone well for me so far, it does take a lot of mental energy which is why I've decided to shut down The Priest's Boot for now.
[Nupe The Ripper] Thursday, March 4, 2021 1:15:48 PM
Hi everyone, just a quick update.
Unfortunately I have to announce that my website, The Priest's Boot, is going permanently offline at the end of this month. There are more details in the last two news posts there, but basically there are much bigger and more important things going on in my life right now and I can't spare the time and energy to migrate the website to another host, nor manage a "new" site with the attention it would deserve.
So if there's something interesting for you which you haven't downloaded yet, go grab it before it's too late. Maybe in the future I have the chance to start a new site.
Hey, it was online for a bit over 10 years, that was an achievement in itself!
[Nupe The Ripper] Friday, October 11, 2019 1:28:48 PM
So the European tour is postponed AGAIN because of Ozzy. And obviously greedy Sharon has Priest locked in such a deal that they can't do their own tour in the meantime.
Seriously considering to refund my tickets right now.
I've got tix for the Helsinki show which is four weeks away. Hopefully he'll be fine by then, even though I'm mostly going there to watch Priest.
Head banger wrote:
Trying to find more details but OzZY might be down sick again on the first date of his tour, does not bode well, I was lucky enough to see him in 2010 with Halford and he was absolutely amazing, ithen seen him with Black Sabbath in 2013 and he was not so good,Ailing badly, even said "I'm doing the best I can vancouver" good luck to all who bought tix in the coming months-Acolyte
Trying to find more details but OzZY might be down sick again on the first date of his tour, does not bode well, I was lucky enough to see him in 2010 with Halford and he was absolutely amazing, ithen seen him with Black Sabbath in 2013 and he was not so good,Ailing badly, even said "I'm doing the best I can vancouver" good luck to all who bought tix in the coming months-Acolyte
[Nupe The Ripper] Friday, March 09, 2018 11:14:56 AM
Turns out the "deluxe" version of Firepower is in fact a digipak. Despite the expanded booklet, there unfortunately is no liner notes, just the song lyrics, album credits and some additional artwork. This is the scene in my room right now:
[Nupe The Ripper] Saturday, January 13, 2018 9:49:14 AM
At another vendor's site it's listed as "Deluxe Hardcover Edition", so very likely the "Deluxe" version of Europe and "Hardcover" version of the US are the same. I'll likely do a review of it once I get it, so there'll definitely be photos then!
Also couldn't get TS's Club Daze Vol. 1 from the record store after all, they sent me an email saying that it had been removed from their wholesaler's inventory. So I'm getting Rainbow's Rising instead, it was the exact same price (they asked if I either wanted to replace the missing item with another, get a voucher or a full refund, so I picked the first option). Then I went to Amazon and got both Club Daze Volumes 1 and 2 for a mere 14 euros. Vol. 1 was laughably cheap, less than three GBP.
Fine call on the Maiden, Nupe. From start to finish. EXACTLY where I finished...although I honestly bought more, I don't really listen to Fear. That was the stopping point for me.
Just was gonna write that my latest was to compare what Nupe called the "Deluxe CD" and the US site calls the "Hardcover CD." They APPEAR to be one and the same but who knows as the US gives absolutely NO info about it. Wouldn't have even known to look had it not been for Nupe's post. Lots more stuff on the US site which I would have missed entirely so thanks for that, folks.
Sadly, I missed the autographed red / orange / black swirled autographed LPs so grabbed the clear / black autographed ones. Also just bought the hardcover CD. Was gonna get the "Deluxe CD" from overseas as it is pretty close in price and it IS often different but, what the heck, eh? Got the Nostradamus LP package well after the album came out waiting for shipment so why not do the same this time around, right? Like to match up photos / descriptions with you when they arrive, Nupe. Let's see if they are, in fact, identical. I'd be curious.
Now, about those two Glenn SG guitars that are left..hmmmm.
Nupe The Ripper wrote:
Just preordered Firepower from my local record store. I picked the "deluxe" CD version, which was two euros more expensive although the tracklist seems to be the same. Perhaps the packaging is a bit nicer.
Also went to the used CDs section and found the somewhat rare two-disc (CD + DVD) version of Angel of Retribution - I've been meaning to get it for a long time to supplement my standard single CD edition and finish my collection of all officially released live material. For just 12€ I think it was a bargain, especially as it counted towards my regular customer points.
To round up the order to a number which gave me a few stamps to my customer card, I also got Rainbow's debut album, Twisted Sister's Club Daze Vol. 1 and Uriah Heep's Look at Yourself (2 CD deluxe version).
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Since my previous update in this thread I ordered quite a number of CDs during last spring as the record store had a number of good deals going. In order of artist, not date of purchase:
Diamond Head: Lightning to the Nations (2 CD deluxe)
Dio: The Last In Line and Sacred Heart (both 2 CD deluxe)
Iron Maiden: all studio albums from the self-titled debut to Fear of the Dark, plus Live After Death (all standard CDs)
W.A.S.P.: first four studio albums (all deluxe versions)
Yup, finally decided to break my semi-boycott of Maiden and got all the classics in one huge order (they were on a 50% discount after all).
[Nupe The Ripper] Monday, January 08, 2018 12:18:45 PM
Just preordered Firepower from my local record store. I picked the "deluxe" CD version, which was two euros more expensive although the tracklist seems to be the same. Perhaps the packaging is a bit nicer.
Also went to the used CDs section and found the somewhat rare two-disc (CD + DVD) version of Angel of Retribution - I've been meaning to get it for a long time to supplement my standard single CD edition and finish my collection of all officially released live material. For just 12€ I think it was a bargain, especially as it counted towards my regular customer points.
To round up the order to a number which gave me a few stamps to my customer card, I also got Rainbow's debut album, Twisted Sister's Club Daze Vol. 1 and Uriah Heep's Look at Yourself (2 CD deluxe version).
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Since my previous update in this thread I ordered quite a number of CDs during last spring as the record store had a number of good deals going. In order of artist, not date of purchase:
Diamond Head: Lightning to the Nations (2 CD deluxe)
Dio: The Last In Line and Sacred Heart (both 2 CD deluxe)
Iron Maiden: all studio albums from the self-titled debut to Fear of the Dark, plus Live After Death (all standard CDs)
W.A.S.P.: first four studio albums (all deluxe versions)
Yup, finally decided to break my semi-boycott of Maiden and got all the classics in one huge order (they were on a 50% discount after all).
[Nupe The Ripper] Friday, January 05, 2018 10:11:36 AM
Oh, situation report regarding next summer. I decided to eventually go to the festival for two days to see both Ozzy Osbourne and Judas Priest. Two-day ticket plus bus travels from the train station to the airfield (where the festival is held) cost me a total of 139€. Haven't checked train ticket prices yet, but shouldn't be much as Hyvinkää is not that far away.
I reckoned paying 40€ "extra" to see another great heavy metal artist on his last world tour is well worth it.
[Nupe The Ripper] Wednesday, December 06, 2017 6:48:50 AM
I think that's just the number of times each performer has been put on the shortlist of nominees. Not the amount of votes they already have at the moment.
[Nupe The Ripper] Sunday, December 03, 2017 10:44:54 AM
Actually, I just checked hotel prices. Because Hyvinkää is a fairly small town most of the hotels in the city and near it are already fully booked (much of them probably by the artists and their crews). The few rooms that are still available cost 300 euros. For one night. Normal prices are like 70-80 euros for a night!
I really need to figure out some way of making this work. I'd hate to miss the show.
[Nupe The Ripper] Friday, December 01, 2017 11:08:03 AM
Regarding the ticket prices... for the first time I'm actually really having to consider whether or not I'm going to see them. Their only concert in Finland is at the Hyvinkää Rockfest, and one-day tickets cost 89 euros. Add to that travelling to the location and a possible hotel room and I'm looking at a potential 150-170 euro bill at least. On the other hand, two-day tickets cost a "mere" 119 euros, so I could max out the entertainment factor and go see Ozzy Osbourne on Wednesday (none of the other bands in the festival are interesting to me). Although that could mean another expensive night at the hotel...
In comparison: in 2011 I saw them at Sauna Open Air in Tampere, and only went to watch them. A one-day ticket there cost 58 euros, plus train tickets there and back which were 29 euros. That's 87 euros in total, still less than just the ticket to the Hyvinkää festival. Granted, I was a student at the time so I got a 50% discount on train tickets; with normal prices the whole trip would've cost me 106 euros. Meanwhile their indoor concerts at the Helsinki Icehall have always been 50-60 euros, and travel there has been almost free because I've been able to use local public transport.
On the other hand, I have far more disposable income now. During the previous years I've either been a student or unemployed, but now I'm in my first full year of a properly paid job and it looks very likely I'll be continuing for at least much of the next year as well. So the idea of splashing upwards to 200 euros to see two great heavy metal acts, one of whom is definitely retiring and another which might follow suit quite soon as well, is certainly tempting.
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As for the new album, it certainly looks and sounds like another masterpiece! Will definitely preorder it ASAP.
[Nupe The Ripper] Wednesday, April 05, 2017 12:06:30 PM
Forgot one album from my list: AC/DC's Fly on the Wall. Got it for cheap at a flea market some years ago.
I can't really explain why I've completely avoided buying Iron Maiden. Their music is alright (although not as good as Priest imo), but maybe it's because they're so popular that I hear enough of them anyway.
I found out about Keel when I watched Men In Black II and "Speed Demon" was played in one scene. Went on YouTube to check out the rest of the album and liked what I heard. It's a very glammy album (as could be expected from something produced by Gene Simmons) but a bit of glam every now and then balances out the more serious stuff in my collection. Speaking of glam, there's a couple of bands whose CDs I should buy to replace my current downloaded versions: the one-hit wonder Autograph (Turn Up the Radio) and Paganini (80s Swiss hard rock/glam metal, very interesting!). Edited at: Wednesday, April 05, 2017 12:08:25 PM
[Nupe The Ripper] Monday, April 03, 2017 11:57:32 AM
I have the following besides all Judas Priest albums:
Accept (from the self-titled debut up to Metal Heart, minus Breaker)
Black Sabbath (from the self-titled debut up to Born Again, plus Past Lives)
Dio (Holy Diver, Last in Line and Magica)
Manowar (from Battle Hyms up to Kings of Metal)
Ozzy Osbourne (from Blizzard of Ozz to The Ultimate Sin, plus Speak of the Devil and Tribute)
Quiet Riot (Metal Health and Condition Critical)
Railway (from the self-titled debut up to Climax)
Raven (Life's a Bitch only)
Saxon (from the self-titled debut up to Rock the Nations, plus The Eagle Has Landed)
Scorpions (from Fly to the Rainbow up to Love at First Sting)
Twisted Sister (all five studio albums)
W.A.S.P. (self-titled debut and Inside the Electric Circus)
And the following from bands that I consider more hard rock or glam metal rather than heavy metal:
AC/DC (Highway to Hell and Back in Black)
Deep Purple (Shades of Deep Purple, The Book of Taliesyn, Deep Purple, In Rock, Burn, Slaves and Masters, The Battle Rages On, Purple Hits, Classic Deep Purple: The Universal Masters Collection)
Def Leppard (High 'n' Dry)
Dokken (Tooth and Nail, Under Lock and Key)
Europe (The Final Countdown)
Keel (The Right to Rock)
Kiss (from the self-titled debut up to Love Gun, plus Alive! and Creatures of the Night)
Led Zeppelin (II and III)
Tesla (Mechanical Resonance)
Uriah Heep (Very 'eavy...Very 'umble, Salisbury, Demons and Wizards, Live January 1973, Innocent Victim, Sea of Light, The Ultimate Collection)
Van Halen (first six studio albums)
Once in a while I wonder what is in other heavy metal fan's cd collections...Sabbath,Priest,Maiden...but what else is there that is still heavy metal with no thrash,death metal influences... My collection consists of these bands... Some bands I have multiple cds by,others I may have 1 album by the artist but that album is of superior quality that it has to be in my collection....
Black Sabbath Judas Priest Iron Maiden Saxon Accept ( Restless And Wild & Balls To The Wall albums only) Pentagram ("Pentagram - Relentless"debut full length,Day Of Reckoning,Be Forwarned albums only) Mercyful Fate (Mellissa & Don't Break The Oath cds) Manilla Road Cirith Ungol (Frost And Fire & One Foot In Hell albums only) Ozzy Osbourne(up to Bark At The Moon) Exciter (first 3 albums only) Grave Digger ("Ballads Of A Hangman" album only) Virgin Steele Queensryche (first EP only) Dio Running Wild Helloween(first album only 1985 Walls Of Jericho) Destiny (Atomic Winter album only) King Diamond Candlemass Blind Guardian Scanner ("Ball Of The Damned" album only Axel Rudi Pell(Between The Walls & Magic albums only) Gamma Ray Iced Earth (Night Of The Stormrider) Iron Savior (Unification) Hammerfall Ghost
Motorhead is not heavy metal,I have my Motorhead collection of albums ect...but some do consider them heavy metal when they are not.
[Nupe The Ripper] Friday, March 10, 2017 2:57:39 PM
Does anyone remember James Durbin? The guy who sang Judas Priest on American Idol in 2011 which led to the first public appearance of Richie Faulkner as a member of Priest?
Well, he was just recently signed as the lead singer of Quiet Riot (yeah they're still going, led by drummer Frankie Banali).
[Nupe The Ripper] Sunday, February 12, 2017 7:29:02 AM
I got the 2011 Deluxe Edition of Holy Diver. It features all the B-sides from the Holy Diver and Rainbow in the Dark singles, as well as a (partial?) KBFH radio broadcast. A very good package, but quite expensive compared to the normal version.
So that CD was released in 2005, huh? Universal UK? Yeah, doubt I'll find it easily here in good ol' Trumplandia - I mean, uh, the US of A.
guidogodoy wrote:
Agree about Turbo 30! LOVIN' IT! Concert is why I bought it and I do NOT regret my purchase for a second!
I can answer the question, Vail, as I also have the Holy Diver CD. It has a bunch of interiews with Ronnie at the end. I just pulled it to find out the year (2005...so released about 5 before his death) and find it stamped "Universal UK" - contradition in terms, eh? I got it in Spain leading me to think it wasn't released in the USA. Dunno, really.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Cool, Nupe!
Question, though, about that Holy Diver purchase. What's in that bonus CD?
Nupe The Ripper wrote:
I've bought a bucketload in the past few weeks:
Black Sabbath: Heaven and Hell, Mob Rules, Born Again, Past Lives
Dio: Holy Diver (Deluxe version with bonus CD)
Judas Priest: Turbo 30 (fuckin' awesome!)
Kiss: Alive!
Manowar: Battle Hymns, Hail to England, Fighting the World, Kings of Metal
Ozzy Osbourne: Speak of the Devil, The Ultimate Sin, Tribute to Randy Rhoads
[Nupe The Ripper] Saturday, February 11, 2017 5:31:25 AM
I've bought a bucketload in the past few weeks:
Black Sabbath: Heaven and Hell, Mob Rules, Born Again, Past Lives
Dio: Holy Diver (Deluxe version with bonus CD)
Judas Priest: Turbo 30 (fuckin' awesome!)
Kiss: Alive!
Manowar: Battle Hymns, Hail to England, Fighting the World, Kings of Metal
Ozzy Osbourne: Speak of the Devil, The Ultimate Sin, Tribute to Randy Rhoads
Slightly surprised that they're actually doing this, considering that it's among their more controversial albums and the band is seemingly willing to forget the whole thing ever existed (bar Turbo Lover).
The choice for bonus content also threw me off - following the example of Long Beach 1984, the St. Louis 1986 radio show would've been logical as it has been used for a number of b-sides and bonus tracks over the years. Instead, they're using the Kansas City show which was recorded a day earlier as a backup (and was later broadcast partially).
Oh well, one more bootleg I have to remove from my site because it's getting an official release!
[Nupe The Ripper] Monday, August 01, 2016 10:41:18 AM
The VHS single usually contained 2-3 music videos, much like a vinyl single with its A- and B-sides. The VHS format was just a bit too clumsy and expensive for this purpose, so VHS singles sold much less than music video compilations and concert videos. Some VHS singles sold pretty well though, usually if the video in question was banned or only had restricted airplay due to explicit content.
[Nupe The Ripper] Sunday, July 31, 2016 6:09:56 AM
While I personally don't remember much from the VHS era (I was only born in 1991!), I've read about the so-called VHS single. It never was a major success due to the relatively high retail cost, and the VHS format was more suitable for music video compilations or concert videos as even the shortest commercial tapes were usually 60 minutes long.
As for VCRs, my father bought one in the very early 80s and it pretty much cost the entire month's salary for a blue-collar worker. A decade later they were so cheap that it was not unusual for a working-class family to have a couple of them (one for the parents, one for the kids).
[Nupe The Ripper] Thursday, July 30, 2015 4:37:36 PM
Hi guys, I was recently approached by a fan who managed to download another clip from the SAW session track You Are Everything before it was taken down from YouTube, and kindly gave it to me via email. I combined it with the other clip I already had and uploaded the end result here: https://mega.co.nz/#!SMVgBJLK!KI1J079jU--FXTuuLR46y2FbwSOk6XqxJTw5GMC3WrM
Sorry I was a day off (well, two if you count that it is after midnight here) but I had good reason. In celebration of your big day, I went to see PRIEST!!!!
Hope that justifies it a bit (12 hour drive home...ugh!) but I hope your day was as happy as mine! Cheers and all the best, my friend! Vids / pix to come ASAP but I leave for Brazil on Tues so it might be a bit delayed as well. Heck, I cheered on the mighty Priest extra loud just for you!!
[Nupe The Ripper] Saturday, July 04, 2015 5:15:55 AM
All of these recent bullshit posts by a certain group of idiots make me want to start a new Judas Priest forum. Something where dickwads like those would immediatedly get banhammered to all eternity. Something where fans of the band could engage in a proper discussion without these dickwads throwing their verbal turds all around the place.
[Nupe The Ripper] Sunday, June 14, 2015 12:58:37 PM
Indeed. Three years ago, I don't recall having anyone on my ignore list. Now there's seven names on it, and unfortunately it's likely to grow even further. I honestly can't be bothered reading the "contributions" of these people: posting non-functional links to music videos, calling anyone who dares to criticise the band even slightly as "not a true fan", writing filthy love letters to each other out in the wide open and swearing and arguing when someone asks them to tone it down. And yes, all that crap is likely to cause many new members who could actually be good posters to run away from the forum in terror.
Oddly enough, I seem to be ignored by two members despite not recalling ever getting into an argument with anyone. Could just be some of those whose behavior I just criticised...
[Nupe The Ripper] Sunday, June 07, 2015 7:57:21 PM
On Thursday, I saw Judas Priest live for the fourth time in my life, and for the third time on the same venue (only in 2011 they played elsewhere) - Helsinki Icehall. I promised to write a review from the show when I had the time, so here goes nothing!
The ticket, bought on 10th November 2014.
Advertisement from Ilta-Sanomat 3.6.2015.
After an agonising wait of two hours, one outside and one inside the icehall (where I managed to get almost right next to the fence on the right side of the stage), support band Five Finger Death Punch blasted on the stage at 20:00. While I'm not really fond of their musical style, they sure put up an energetic show that did it's job of warming up the crowd well during the 45 minutes they had been allocated. As I don't really know about the band much, I'll refrain from commentating from any further. You can look at photos from their gig here: http://www.inferno.fi/live/kuvagalleria-five-finger-death-punch-lakaisi-lavan-puhtaaksi-judas-priestia-varten/
Once their part of the show had ended, a huge Judas Priest curtain was dropped to cover the entire stage where the crew was frantically setting up things (due to the lightning it was possible to see a bit through the curtain). They were ready after about half an hour, after which the PA started playing War Pigs (which has been Priest's "entry tune" for a few years now). Unlike in 2012 when they almost played the entire song, it was now cut off after just a couple of minutes as the intro of Battle Cry took over. At 21:20 the curtain was dropped and Priest started blasting Dragonaut in our ears!
And man what a show it was! Rob is really at the top of his game right now, reaching the high registers easily and holding those notes for quite long as well. In fact at times the stage PA couldn't handle the power of his vocals and started crackling! While he wasn't exactly running wild he almost constantly kept himself in motion, allowing the crowd all around the stage to get a good look at him. This also applied to Glenn, although he refrained from getting any further than the center of the stage. There was a small platform set up on Glenn's side of the stage which was frequently used both by him and Rob to get a better look at the audience. In fact, besides Scott and Ian of course, Richie seemed surprisingly stationary in comparison, only getting to the center a couple of times.
The band seemed to have a really great time, and us in the crowd made sure to make them feel welcome. As seems to be customary in their concerts here, the chorus of Turbo Lover was sang so loudly by us that it drowned out Rob completely! For whatever reason we're always louder during that song than the actual crowd singalongs.
The stage setup was simpler than in 2012, with three platforms forming Scott's "throne" while the rest was left rather barren. The three platforms had displays on them, which were used to show footage fitting to each song's theme along with a huge display behing Scott (partial list of the themes shown during each song further down this review). There was no smoke or pyro this time either, so the other effects were done solely by lightning; for example at the start of Love Bites they moved small spotlights very similarly to what is seen in the original music video for the song.
I really liked the setlist - the songs from the new album formed a quarter of the entire set, but they blended in well with the usual classics. I also liked that they brought in songs from Defenders of the Faith that they haven't played since the mid-80s, although it's a bit unfortunate they've now dropped the title track from the setlist which was played earlier in the tour (it would've made for a fine last singalong).
Here's the stuff they showed on the displays during some of the songs:
Dragonaut - a dragon, of course
Metal Gods - CGI footage of a marching robot army, which was poorly looped
Halls of Valhalla - Viking imagery (helmets, swords, drawings of viking ships) and a hall in flames
Love Bites - footage from the 1920s Nosferatu film, with the chorus lyrics shown as silent film captions
March of the Damned - CGI zombies waving around
Jawbreaker - footage of a shadowy man which looked like a boxer, a viper and lots of destruction
Breaking the Law - news articles and old footage of crimes
Hell Bent for Leather - Harley-Davidsons and logos of various motorcycle clubs
Living After Midnight - a clock which was aptly showing a time after midnight
So all in all the show lasted 1h 40 mins and consisted of 17 songs in total, which in my opinion is quite perfect for a metal concert. As the show ended and Beginning of the End started playing on the PA, I began my own March of the Damned to the bus stop... I usually don't have a lot of physical exercise so every muscle in my body was sore, and in fact I'm still feeling a bit of pain three days after the concert! But it was definitely all worth it, best Priest show I've been to so far.
I took a few photos on my phone, but unfortunately most of the turned out garbage. The ones below are those that I deemed the best shots I got:
[Nupe The Ripper] Thursday, June 04, 2015 11:28:02 PM
Yeah. the show yesterday was awesome! I'll write a proper review over the weekend and post it on both forums. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Thursday, June 04, 2015 8:01:25 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
BTW, saw the end of your chat over on the XQ, glad you had a good show and LOVED your comment with regard to said track:
"I now understand why they've kept a tight lid on these tracks for all those years... "
[Nupe The Ripper] Wednesday, May 20, 2015 4:06:51 PM
Damn. I applied to three polytechnics this year, and just found out that the entrance exam to one of them clashes with Priest's concert in Finland. Oh well, entrance exams are every year while Priest is touring only once every three-four years it's not hard to decide where I'm going that day.
I just need to hope I can get a good result either of the two other exams...
I remember, Nupe. May "fluffy" rest in peace (yeah, not the name but they are all fluffy, no?)
Where is the pic, man? I, for one, want to see a rockin' rabbit! Outstanding album, where is the animal rocking along?
Nupe The Ripper wrote:
Some of you may remember me posting about my sister's rabbit which enjoyed rock and metal music. Well sadly, he passed away about a year ago, but my sister has already gotten a new one, a female this time. And she's loving the same type of music as her predecessor. She's currently here on my desk right next to me, enjoying Scorpions' Love at First Sting and looking as happy as ever. :)
[Nupe The Ripper] Thursday, April 02, 2015 10:27:03 AM
Some of you may remember me posting about my sister's rabbit which enjoyed rock and metal music. Well sadly, he passed away about a year ago, but my sister has already gotten a new one, a female this time. And she's loving the same type of music as her predecessor. She's currently here on my desk right next to me, enjoying Scorpions' Love at First Sting and looking as happy as ever. :)
[Nupe The Ripper] Sunday, March 22, 2015 11:58:03 AM
It's still there, right after Jawbreaker ends. I think the only stage banter cut out is the introduction for Night Comes Down and a bit from the intro to Victim of Changes.
*sniff* They should've left Rob saying "Long Beach, CA!" in Grinder (yes, thinking about that live bonus track off the remastered BS album). I guess it makes sense to even out the speeches in between songs, but still!!!
Yup, listening to this right now. I like your word for this so far: GLORIOUS!!! Currently on Breaking the Law.
guidogodoy wrote:
Oh, this is damn glorious. "Jawbreaker" brings tears to my eyes!
Post ed. Rob is a GOD!! JAWBREAKAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!
[Nupe The Ripper] Wednesday, December 10, 2014 9:20:27 PM
Hell yeah! After three decades of being distributed as bootleg recordings of various quality while only a few songs have been officially released as bonus tracks, the Long Beach '84 show is finally getting the treatment it deserves! If you haven't heard the full show by now (as a bootleg) you're gonna love this!
[Nupe The Ripper] Thursday, November 13, 2014 2:27:49 AM
I see the LP version features the same typo as the CD one: "Dragonaught". The packaging on some of the latest Priest releases hasn't been top notch (Single Cuts was riddled with factual errors, for example) but that's just hilarious.
[Nupe The Ripper] Saturday, October 04, 2014 7:49:26 AM
Maybe this setlist is their way of celebrating the 30th anniversary of DOTF... man, there's some great live songs there! Can't wait for when they confirm European dates (they've visited Finland on every major tour since 2005 so I don't see why they wouldn't come here again).
[Nupe The Ripper] Friday, July 11, 2014 3:32:31 AM
As I said earlier RoS' Finnish release date is today which just happens to also be my 23rd birthday. My local record shop kept their promise and sent the album in time for it to have just arrived in mail - and because I was early in preordering the album they threw in a 50cm x 50cm album cover poster as well! See pic below:
My review will have to wait for some time: I already unhooked my Hi-Fi amplifier as I'm taking it to the countryside for the weekend as part of my birthday celebrations (FINALLY a proper chance to use its full power, can't really do that in an apartment block).
Hello and Happy Birthday to all July Metal-Babies!!! As always, may you have a good one, and don't have too much fun with the fireworks, my crazy fellow 'muricans!
[Nupe The Ripper] Monday, April 28, 2014 9:46:01 AM
Hmm, on my headphones the production sounded quite beefy (which I like), and overall the song is quite good (though maybe it would work better if it was a bit shorter). Of course, we'll have to wait until the release to hear how it really sounds like. As Head Banger said the version here is probably quite heavily compressed to reduce the appeal to pirate it.
[Nupe The Ripper] Tuesday, September 10, 2013 2:19:39 AM
Unfortunately it is like that throughout the DVD... a real shame because the concert itself is good, but the jump-cut editing makes the DVD not that desirable to watch.
Finally bought the "Epitaph" DVD on Saturday. Put it on yesterday and only made it through one song. The editing was driving me nuts. Every half a second they were changing camera's and camera angles and none of it was smooth at all. Too jumpy for me and annoying. Someone please tell me the whole DVD isn't like this. I would rather have kept my twenty bucks if so.
[Nupe The Ripper] Friday, July 05, 2013 10:19:10 AM
Yeah I put her back on my ignore list this morning, I had removed her from there because I hoped she had taken note of my message. But it was obviously way too optimistic to hope that, and actually it seems to have worked the opposite as I think that she made a new record in the amount of posts per hour.
hit that ignore button. then you log in and just dont see them. which is perfect to me. sure the messages since last visit shows 200 something, but I only saw your post and JD's
Nupe The Ripper wrote:
247 messages, of which five were by others than Trixi. Looks like she is planning to post every photo from the "judas priest biggest photo library" page on Facebook.
[Nupe The Ripper] Friday, July 05, 2013 4:33:19 AM
247 messages, of which five were by others than Trixi. Looks like she is planning to post every photo from the "judas priest biggest photo library" page on Facebook.
[Nupe The Ripper] Wednesday, July 03, 2013 5:47:09 PM
The hell? I logged on here this morning (about 10 AM) and checked all messages (well mostly just skipping through all of the "this message is from a user you have ignored" stuff). I come back here just before I hit the bed (1:30 AM), and there's 211 new messages! Two hundred and eleven posts in 21 and a half hours! And about 195 of them are by Trixi!
Trixi, if you're still reading these, that's one of the main reasons people dislike you: you post way too much. Many of your posts are double- or triple-posts where you first post a photo, then create a new post for a caption to that photo, and maybe even make a third post to tell Boogers to check that out. And then repeat this process over and over again. Same with videos. If you could just combine all of these elements into one post, it'd make reading the forums so much easier. I seriously doubt that you are in such a "fan rush" that you cannot think what you post for more than one second. Perhaps by simply reducing the amount of posts you make, people would be nicer to you and remove you from their ignore lists. But first you need to change.
[Nupe The Ripper] Sunday, June 23, 2013 1:39:48 PM
*Comes in after being away since Thursday. Sees 300+ new messages, most of which are the typical "Rob is a god who never makes an error realize rock opera Nostradamus KK back in the band pls" posts from the well-known trio.*
Seriously? I like it when people have opinions, and argue about them with the discussion sometimes heating up a bit. But this is way off the scale.
Trixi, Boogerman, Tania. We already know what your opinions are, thank you very much. We don't need to hear them for the 6859th time, so could you please contain your posts in the "higher feelings" thread you created to continue your discussion? And as for the other members, just ignore this trio completely. Don't reply to any of their posts, and they should leave you alone once they find out they cannot argue with you anymore.
Hey, I was at High Voltage festival in London Victoria Park in2011 to see Priest. They played a really awesome show...from what I remember.
I've been trying to find a download for the entire show (audio or video) but can't seem to find it anywhere. I know the whole show was pro shot and you can watch the individual songs on youtube. I have also seen a scan of the cover of a bootleg dvd of it so I'm sure its out there somewhere.
I dont mind if its dvd or cd but I just want to listen to the whole show again.
If you can help in anyway it'd be much appreciated.
Cheers
[Nupe The Ripper] Monday, June 03, 2013 2:59:47 AM
I really hate using the ignore button, but yesterday I had had enough of certain thick-headed people and had to hit it a couple of times. Made the "new posts" list much cleaner!
[Nupe The Ripper] Saturday, May 25, 2013 3:06:55 AM
As far as I know On Through the Night is a song and album by Def Leppard, yet your link points out to some Spanish band that I admit to have never heard of (which doesn't sound half bad BTW).
And Def Leppard is a VERY famous band, I was born in 1991 and still have known them for as long as I remember.
Anyway, here's a couple of my lesser-known favorites:
Oh, I see. Well then I'm not surprised of the results. I wouldn't call it an accurate poll though, because there's so many people who don't use last.fm (including yours truly).
Their greatest albums? Looks like songs to me, and half of them aren't even visible because they're in the same color as the forum's background, have to drag the mouse on them to actually see what songs there are.
And where was this survey conducted? Looks awfully biased towards their more well-known songs (which are not necessarily their best IMO) and even one cover tune, yet classics like Beyond the Realms of Death, The Sentinel, Exciter etc. are missing completely...
Trixi wrote:
Judas Priest their greatest albums of all time, this is a statistic worldwide!
Hi Boogie, you are right, we must just ignore them, but they disturb our dicussions, you are just a wonderful guy, never say die!
All of the world there are a lot of Judas Priest fans and only 4 "fans" writing all the time the same awful messages and drag the official website of Judas Priest through the mire!
Yeah, we are high with Judas Priest, we a rockers, ooooohh, and no one can take this away......!
i flick my boogers wrote:
Right now I'm going with ------------->>Point of entry
[Nupe The Ripper] Thursday, May 23, 2013 1:06:55 PM
What's pissing me off? Logging on here every day, noticing that there's 90+ new messages, most of them regarding the same topic. People arguing who is a "true fan" and who isn't: the other side claims only those who love everything the band has done with Rob have the right to call themselves that, while others claim that "true fans" have the right to criticise the band whenever they feel that they've taken a turn in the wrong direction, while also praising them for all the good stuff they've done. Truth is, no-one has the right to judge that - it's a very individual and personal thing. I'm leaning more towards the latter option, and admit that Priest has made some very poor decisions in their career and not every song by them is a masterpiece (some of them are hideously bad), but I also respect the opinion at the other end of the spectrum.
Arguing about this matter is even more stupider than the more common arguments among metal fans - that of the purpoted superiority of a certain subgenre or band. At least in those cases it's the fans of different bands that are arguing, but here we have fans of the same band attacking each other, claiming their view is correct. And when the argument slows down a bit, instead of trying to settle either one of the sides will start flogging the proverbial dead horse again and spark up the same discussion. This furthers nothing but the declination of this site's importance.
I don't care who started all of this, but it's really making the site feel inhospitable. So could you all please put an end to it? Stop replying to each others' messages, and if it's too hard to do it on your own, use the ignore button so you won't see the messages of whomever you think is offending your own views too much.
[Nupe The Ripper] Thursday, May 23, 2013 10:29:16 AM
Their greatest albums? Looks like songs to me, and half of them aren't even visible because they're in the same color as the forum's background, have to drag the mouse on them to actually see what songs there are.
And where was this survey conducted? Looks awfully biased towards their more well-known songs (which are not necessarily their best IMO) and even one cover tune, yet classics like Beyond the Realms of Death, The Sentinel, Exciter etc. are missing completely...
Hi Boogie, you are right, we must just ignore them, but they disturb our dicussions, you are just a wonderful guy, never say die!
All of the world there are a lot of Judas Priest fans and only 4 "fans" writing all the time the same awful messages and drag the official website of Judas Priest through the mire!
Yeah, we are high with Judas Priest, we a rockers, ooooohh, and no one can take this away......!
i flick my boogers wrote:
Right now I'm going with ------------->>Point of entry
[Nupe The Ripper] Wednesday, February 20, 2013 10:16:46 AM
Oh, I see. I've heard two versions of Budokan '84: Metal Jaw, which you have, and Fast & Furious, which is a bit better in my opinion. And both are better than the version of Osaka '84 I've got (Defending the Eastern Faith). So when it read "soundboard quality" on the "Metallian in the East" cover, I thought it could be from Tokyo.
Now you are making me dredge up the dead. Sept 13, 1984 is the second: Metal Jaw. All are silver but Metal Jaw was released by "Tiger Hook." Made in Korea, double-cd too but no issue number.
Front:
and as long as I am so far back into my picytures, back:
[Nupe The Ripper] Tuesday, January 22, 2013 3:15:29 AM
Shame there aren't any proper metal festivals near where I live. Tuska Open Air Festival is the closest, but it caters for the much heavier sort, you know thrash, death and black metal. If I went there I would feel exactly like the name of the event ("tuska" is Finnish for "agony" and "severe pain").
I guess if Priest comes to Finland at all, it'll be again at the Sauna Open Air Festival in Tampere, which is about 170km from where I live. Which is not too bad, as I can still get home during the same night. Any farther than that and I most likely have to skip it though - hotels are too expensive for my budget.
yep. no festivals this way, but I would be stoked for a new priest album.
Becks wrote:
Oooh hopefully his sources tell the truth!
Head banger wrote:
Heard on Eddie Trunk tonight that he has heard that Priest will be at some festivals this summer, and he believes that they will get a new album done, along with possibly a new halford album, but nothing halford solo related till the lawsuit is resolved.
[Nupe The Ripper] Sunday, January 20, 2013 8:22:51 AM
The Painkiller music video posted by Brian_Evans in last June automatically starts playing when you open the thread. Didn't start here though, I only got a message saying that "the content you are trying to view is only available in certain areas" and was redirected to some crappy punk song.
OK...it's Sunday morning (2:30am) and I'm not completely awake yet so maybe I'll figure it out later
but what the hell is going on in this thread. I started reading the posts and radio started playing "Painkiller".
I thought I accidentally clicked something so I went out and came back in and didn't click anything and it
started again. Cool but I never had it happen before. Anyone???
[Nupe The Ripper] Monday, January 07, 2013 4:09:09 AM
I got the Stained Class and Point of Entry remasters in a X2 cardboard box, and they were in separate jewelcases with correct remaster series artwork and spine textures. It looked like this:
I've been picking up the JP remasters and I was wondering if the X2 Hell Bent For Leather / Defenders Of The Faith box contains the 2 albums in the remaster gray border seperate jewel boxes or are they combined in a single digi-pak or a single tray 2 hub jewel box. I want to finish getting all of the CDs for my collection to make the Judas Priest spine graphic. I'm hoping it's just a way of selling the two CDs at a lower price, so I can pick them up cheap. Can anyone answer my question. Thanks in advance.
[Nupe The Ripper] Saturday, January 05, 2013 10:00:33 AM
I can't get into Halford's solo material at all. Even though his current band is supposed to be "traditional" metal, there's just something missing and it still sounds too modern. The less said about 2wo the better, and Fight's "groove metal" style doesn't appeal to me either. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Head banger from Friday, January 04, 2013 7:47:36 AM)
Head banger wrote:
I dont know why but I just cant get into the Halford band. I dont like most of the songs, and live they were like a poor priest cover, when they played priest stuff. I cant remember which song, but it was a priest song, less popular the dude behind me yelled out play some priest.
that was funny, but overall ozzy was a way better set I thought, and I am not a huge fan of his.
Fight, now that I liked. in fact I think they played into the pit or nailed to the gun at the halford show, and that might have been the highlite.
[Nupe The Ripper] Thursday, December 06, 2012 6:14:24 PM
Accept: Restless and Wild
Accept: Russian Roulette
Black Sabbath: Black Sabbath
Black Sabbath: Paranoid
Black Sabbath: Master of Reality
Black Sabbath: Vol. 4
KISS: KISS
KISS: Hotter Than Hell
KISS: Dressed to Kill
KISS: Destroyer
Quiet Riot: Metal Health
[Nupe The Ripper] Wednesday, October 03, 2012 2:18:48 AM
You can already see him leaning forwards in the Priest...Live! DVD from 1986 (particularly during Love Bites), so I guess it helps him reach high notes better, especially nowadays when his voice isn't that strong anymore.
Rob's vocal peak was relatively short, he was doing well in the late 70s but then the heavy drinking took the best edge out of his voice by the mid-80s (although he was still extremely good). But after he went sober in early 1986, he seemed pretty much from another planet on the Turbo and especially Ram It Down tour. However, by then he was nearing his forties so he started to lose a bit of his voice because of age from then on, you can already hear him struggle a bit in the Painkiller shows. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Pepe2 from Tuesday, October 02, 2012 11:10:01 PM)
Pepe2 wrote:
I was watching the Judas Priest DVD Live vengeance 82 and if you're reading this you already know it's a good, high energy level performance, BUT... watching it made me think about Rob Halford's current singing style. His voice is still the same, but his singing posture isn't. On Live vengeance DVD you can see Rob singing chin up and shoulders back, chest held high, and nowadays it seems he likes to sing in a leaning forwards posture. I'm not a singer myself and was wondering is there any "secret" in that. Rob of course is an unusual singer, so, an unusual singing posture kind of makes sense, but... could somebody who knows more about singing tell me a bit more about this...?
Close but it is actually: "login again and hit the BACK arrow twice" to recover the original text for posting.
Works most (not all) of the time.
Budred wrote:
If that happens again try the back arrow (upper left). Log in again and then hit the forward arrow.
That may be wrong but I think that's how I did it. (It's happened to me a few times.)
Nupe The Ripper wrote:
I wrote a lenghty post but then the bloody thing had me automatically logged out because of inactivity and I lost it.
Anyway, this show won't be released officially because it was not professionally recorded. The audio and video are extremely good considering the timeframe but it's also very obscured with hands and heads.
A more likely candidate for an official DVD would be the Irvine Meadows show from July 1991 (professionally recorded and partly broadcast by ABC) that also includes two songs not found on the usual Painkiller setlist: Turbo Lover and Diamonds & Rust (which hadn't been performed after 1983). Other proshots from the main Painkiller tour include Detroit 1990 (although given that it was recorded by a fan from the hotel's TV live feed, there might not be any master tapes) and Rock in Rio 1991 (Globo TV is known to have the master tapes in it's possession: Grinder is available on the DVD for the British Steel DVD released in 2001). Zagreb 1991 is unlikely as it was shot just a month before the Croatian war broke out, so chances are that it's permanently lost (only a short version is in circulation).
Screamin' Demon wrote:
We've had a lot of DVD's from various tours but this still seems like one key tour in Priest history that has not yet been represented in form of DVD. While the Operation Rock N' Roll Tour shows were short on the setlist, the tremendously powerful live sound they had on this last stretch of the Painkiller tour was just bone crushing. One of the shows that clearly stands out on this leg was the Middletown 08.16 show which still surprises me that it hasn't come out on DVD, despite many fans' praises and claims of it being the best Painkiller Tour show. If Priest are reading this we could really go with one of these, with an all-teeth-bared style Priest.
[Nupe The Ripper] Tuesday, September 25, 2012 2:26:28 PM
I wrote a lenghty post but then the bloody thing had me automatically logged out because of inactivity and I lost it.
Anyway, this show won't be released officially because it was not professionally recorded. The audio and video are extremely good considering the timeframe but it's also very obscured with hands and heads.
A more likely candidate for an official DVD would be the Irvine Meadows show from July 1991 (professionally recorded and partly broadcast by ABC) that also includes two songs not found on the usual Painkiller setlist: Turbo Lover and Diamonds & Rust (which hadn't been performed after 1983). Other proshots from the main Painkiller tour include Detroit 1990 (although given that it was recorded by a fan from the hotel's TV live feed, there might not be any master tapes) and Rock in Rio 1991 (Globo TV is known to have the master tapes in it's possession: Grinder is available on the DVD for the British Steel DVD released in 2001). Zagreb 1991 is unlikely as it was shot just a month before the Croatian war broke out, so chances are that it's permanently lost (only a short version is in circulation).
We've had a lot of DVD's from various tours but this still seems like one key tour in Priest history that has not yet been represented in form of DVD. While the Operation Rock N' Roll Tour shows were short on the setlist, the tremendously powerful live sound they had on this last stretch of the Painkiller tour was just bone crushing. One of the shows that clearly stands out on this leg was the Middletown 08.16 show which still surprises me that it hasn't come out on DVD, despite many fans' praises and claims of it being the best Painkiller Tour show. If Priest are reading this we could really go with one of these, with an all-teeth-bared style Priest.
[Nupe The Ripper] Monday, September 17, 2012 4:01:21 AM
It was a bit badly worded - by "reproductions" I meant re-releases - you know, albums like the first "Best of Judas Priest", "Hero, Hero", "Genocide" etc., all of which consist entirely of material recorded with Gull. Not forgetting the hundreds of re-releases of Rocka Rolla and SWoD on dozens of different labels.
You are correct in that if Priest would re-record both albums with Sony, then they could freel use those Sony recordings as much as they pleased. As Guido mentioned, they don't have to pay Gull a single buck for the sales of Unleashed in the East (or any other live albums/DVDs with RR/SWoD material, for that matter), because they are entirely different recordings of the songs and the composers (i.e. Halford/Tipton/Downing/Atkins) still hold the rights to the compositions.
And as I said previously, it might be that the rights to the original recordings have transferred to Priest as well, given that they were included in the Complete Albums Collection. I doubt Sony would've payed so much just for licensing the albums for that release only.
Seems to me they could have re-recorded both albums in the studio with a different label and sold those. I believe other bands have done that. Nupe, you say "any reproductions of the LPs", doesn't that mean the original recordings for those albums? Why can't they re-record any songs they want? Just wondering.
guidogodoy wrote:
I've asked you to quit reading my mind before. You may not like what you find.
Wondering the same. I would guess it would come down to the songwriter (and if they sold the copyright?). "Unleashed" didn't have to mention Gull at all. As described below, as long as they didn't use that Gull recording itself, they are good.
Head banger wrote:
what if you sell a live album?
tasnam1 wrote:
Nupe is quite correct.
When you play a song "live" you do not have to pay royalties as you are simple playing your "interpretation" of the original song, but alas not that actual song recording itself.
Once you play the actual recording, then people want their share because you are broadcasting the original recording.
(It gets complicated and I am by no means an expert in the industry, I just know some people who have written and recorded their own material and explained it to me)
Nupe The Ripper wrote:
They wouldn't have to pay Gull Records a single buck even if their setlist consisted entirely of RR and SWoD material. The rights to the songs themselves still reside with the Priest members (and ex-members) involved in the original compositions. However, the rights to the LPs (and any reproductions of them) reside with Gull Records, along with any demo recordings made during that era. It's a somewhat complicated legal matter and I don't know how to explain it better.
I wish Gull Records would some day be actually useful and release other demos as well besides the early version of Diamonds and Rust you can find on pretty much every reissue of Rocka Rolla.
Now I don't know what they did to get RR and SWoD included on the Complete Albums Collection; did Sony Music just license them (like they did for a couple of songs on Metalogy) or are the rights permenently transferred to Judas Priest?
[Nupe The Ripper] Saturday, September 15, 2012 4:04:58 AM
They wouldn't have to pay Gull Records a single buck even if their setlist consisted entirely of RR and SWoD material. The rights to the songs themselves still reside with the Priest members (and ex-members) involved in the original compositions. However, the rights to the LPs (and any reproductions of them) reside with Gull Records, along with any demo recordings made during that era. It's a somewhat complicated legal matter and I don't know how to explain it better.
I wish Gull Records would some day be actually useful and release other demos as well besides the early version of Diamonds and Rust you can find on pretty much every reissue of Rocka Rolla.
Now I don't know what they did to get RR and SWoD included on the Complete Albums Collection; did Sony Music just license them (like they did for a couple of songs on Metalogy) or are the rights permenently transferred to Judas Priest?
[Nupe The Ripper] Tuesday, September 11, 2012 12:08:15 PM
It's been redirected to EMAS Merchandise, which I believe is John Baxter's company that now profits from selling Halford merchandise without Rob's consent...
I've just noticed that Quorum is down, I looked there for some news just a few hours ago and it was still working...
Well, working... Though you couldn't really register and post...
I wonder what will happen to the Rob's website now.
[Nupe The Ripper] Tuesday, September 11, 2012 10:59:57 AM
Yeah, just noticed that as well. It now redirects to EMAS Merchandise, which is likely John Baxter's company making profit from selling Halford stuff without his consent...
Seriously, what on earth did Halford have in mind when he gave Baxter all the rights for Metal God Records and Apparel?
[Nupe The Ripper] Sunday, September 02, 2012 12:16:35 PM
So, as I said previously, I was promised by the record shop that I would be getting my SFV 30th Anniversary Edition on 31st August. Which I did, and I instantly listened through the album and watched the DVD! But I had to go elsewhere shortly after that so I couldn't post my review earlier.
First off, the packaging is neat, the revised artwork looks really cool and the booklet is filled with photos and a lenghty note written by Eddie Trunk. However, for some it might be a bit of a letdown that once again (just like the BS 30th Anniversary) the DVD is housed in the same CD box as the abum, so you'll have to work out some DVD covers and a DVD box yourself if you want to keep it in line with other Priest DVDs.
I think the CD audio quality is just slightly better than on the original 2001 remaster, although I could've perceived it so simply as I knew even better was to come when I got to watch the DVD. The bonus tracks from San Antonio are a nice addition, and to avoid annoying fade-outs and fade-ins, the Devil's Child live track has been moved ahead of Prisoner of Your Eyes and mixed to continue straight from the SA tracks without fade-outs and -ins. The album itself has been reviewed so many times over that I'm not bothering with it now.
Now, onto the main reason why most of you would buy this: the US Festival '83 DVD! The band are really on fire and extremely energetic on stage, in fact they move so wildly that KK Downing has to fix his guitar strap as it had ripped off his guitar during Victim of Changes! The picture quality isn't perfect, but I wasn't expecting it to be so as the show was originally filmed only for TV purposes and not with high-end equipment. However, the soundtrack is really great, the mix is far better than on any of the previous releases from the same show (three live b-sides and the bonus track on the Killing Machine remaster, to be exact). The show lasts bit over an hour but it feels like five minutes due to the intense energy displayed!
So if you haven't yet ordered this, what are you waiting for? Go get it!
[Nupe The Ripper] Monday, August 13, 2012 4:50:38 PM
For some reason I can't post anything on this board at home (which is why I've stayed quiet for the past few weeks), but on a mobile connection from our cottage this seems to be working fine.
Anyway, here's my latest purchases from about a week ago:
Scorpions: Fly to the Rainbow
Saxon: Saxon (remastered with a ton of bonus tracks!)
Accept: Balls to the Wall
Accept: Metal Heart
[Nupe The Ripper] Tuesday, July 24, 2012 8:05:01 AM
I just got a weird idea. Next year, there could be a 35th Anniversary release of Stained Class. And it's bonus material could be a full, remastered version of the Tokyo '78 video you can only find as a relatively poor-quality bootleg at the moment.
It's certainly quite the long shot, but hey if they just managed to release a DVD no-one even knew was available for a release in the first place, we can always hope, yes?
The bonus DVD boasts the first ever commercial release of the band’s awesome 1983 US Festival show. It’s a storming set of 12 songs and showcases a band at the top of their game.
[Nupe The Ripper] Monday, June 18, 2012 2:39:34 AM
Well here's a list of all the Riding on the Winds I listened to last night:
1982-12-12 Mid-South Coliseum, Memphis, TN (Live Vengeance '82 DVD-audio rip)
1983-05-29 US Festival, Glen Helen Park, San Bernardino, CA (Killing Machine remaster)
1983-02-01 Convention Center, Tucson, AZ (soundboard)
1983-12-18 Rock Pop Festival, Westfalenhalle, Dortmund, Germany (FM)
1983-01-30 DECC, Duluth, MN (audience)
1984-01-21 Johanneshovs Isstadion, Stockholm, Sweden (audience)
1984-01-30 Maison des Sports, Clermont-Ferrand, France (audience)
1982-09-21 International Amphitheatre, Chicago, IL (audience)
1982-09-10 HemisFair Arena Convention Center, San Antonio, TX (FM)
Hard to say which one of them was the best, although maybe the last one was. Best part is, I've still got a few ones left from the same era to listen to today!
Another live version of Riding on the Wind - currently the fifth one in a row this night, and I've still got a few bootlegs of it left!
It's definitely one of the best live songs they've ever played, shame they never played it on the Ram It Down tour when Rob's vocals were insane. It's also one of the few songs that Dave Holland actually plays better than Scott Travis! Edited at: Sunday, June 17, 2012 5:28:52 PM
[Nupe The Ripper] Sunday, June 17, 2012 5:23:43 PM
Another live version of Riding on the Wind - currently the fifth one in a row this night, and I've still got a few bootlegs of it left!
It's definitely one of the best live songs they've ever played, shame they never played it on the Ram It Down tour when Rob's vocals were insane. It's also one of the few songs that Dave Holland actually plays better than Scott Travis! Edited at: Sunday, June 17, 2012 5:28:52 PM
[Nupe The Ripper] Saturday, June 16, 2012 6:48:11 AM
That means a lossless audio rip. MP3, WMA etc. are "lossy" formats, i.e. some of the audio data (usually high frequencies, which are harder to hear) is lost when the tracks are compressed to those formats. WAV, which is essentially what is found on commercial CDs, has no loss of data ("lossless") but is huge in size: a typical music track can easily take over 40MB of space. The DVD equivalent for this is LPCM, which is also the format found on Live Vengeance '82.
FLAC, then, is a compression format which reduces the size of WAV tracks without causing any loss of audio data, and when decompressed the audio quality is just as good as in the original lossless source. Of course, the size is still much bigger than lossy compresed tracks, but it's only about 60-70% of the uncompressed source.
You could compare this to different image formats. WAV would be the equivalent to BMP: no loss of data and looks good (if used as the original format), but huge in file size. MP3/WMA would be the equivalent of JPG: doesn't look as good as the original but the file size is small. And FLAC would be the equivalent of PNG: looks just as good as the original BMP, but the file size is smaller (but still bigger than the equivalent JPG).
Oooh sounds nifty, and like it was a real labour of love! One question, what is a 'flac' rip?
guidogodoy wrote:
YEAH! After a number of days trying to get a perfect "flac" rip of the JP DVD 1982 Live Vengeance, I got it! Perfect audio gapless rip. A big thanks to the person who got me started on the project. Long hours but I couldn't be happier with the final product. I'll share with friends. Send me a PM.
In my ears as I type!
[Nupe The Ripper] Sunday, April 01, 2012 11:47:37 AM
Yeah, I just read about it as well. This is getting terrible, first K.K Leaving, then the Baxter lawsuit, now Tipton leaving. Not exactly a gracious retirement for the band, hmm? April fools, everyone! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Budred from Sunday, April 01, 2012 5:26:40 AM)
Budred wrote:
Man, I can't believe Glenn Tipton is leaving Priest also. First K.K. and now Glenn.
He said it was time to step aside and allow some new blood to take over. He said
Priest will still carry on, he just can't be a part of it. Wow, this sucks
[Nupe The Ripper] Thursday, March 22, 2012 9:53:31 AM
Hellrider, I used to like you. About half a year ago, you were still OK in my book. So, your posts were in all Caps, but at least you had something sensible to say for most of the time. But now your posts are mostly what I consider spam because you repeat them over and over again: "KK BACK THREE AXE ATTACK BEFORE THE NEW ALBUM IS RECORDED WITHOUT HIM FOREVER", "BUY SINGLE CUTS BUY COMPLETE ALBUMS COLLECTION SUPPORT THE PRIEST BUY EVERYTHING YOU CAN ALREADY HAVE IT BUY ANOTHER", "PRIEST LOSE SO MUCH MONEY BECAUSE OF METAL BETRAYER ILLEGAL DOWNLOADS". Oh, and my favorite: "DEMAND KK BACK CLICK THE WIDGET NEW ALBUM WILL BE ONLY PARTIAL WITHOUT HIM". Basically, those few phrases in different forms are the only things you've said over the last few months.
And when you're criticized, even in the most friendly ways, you say that you're "PREACHING AND KEEPING THE METAL ALIVE SHOWING TRUE METAL SPIRIT" and call the ones who criticize you to be "aliens" or "metal hijackers". Alright, so I understand that you want to preach and spread the word of metal, and still believe that there's a slight chance that KK would return (which I don't beleive myself, but let's not go there). But let's get the facts straight. Others have estimated that there's about 100 members that are actually active and read the forums at least once a week or so. And of that 100 probably only one quarter post there regularly. Those who read these forums already have most, if not every Priest item they can buy.
So, instead of trying to tell us to buy more Priest records etc., why don't you go on some other forum or out in the public to tell people who aren't familiar with Priest how great the band is? That would be a far more effective way to increase Judas Priest's popularity and record sales than preaching the same things over and over again on a forum where people are already well familiar with the band.
ITS CALLED KEEPING THE METAL ALIVE AND SHOWING SOME METAL SPIRIT.
AND YOU BETTER LOOK OUT CAUSE THERE IS GONNA BE MORE WHERE THAT CAME FROM
BRING IT ON HALFORD BAND AND JUDAS PRIEST
I LIVE FOR THIS
HEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAVVVVVYYYYYYYYYYYYY MEEEEEEEEEETTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT TTTTTTAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
guidogodoy wrote:
Let me get this straight. Now WE are all aliens and hijackers (we could spend hours on your spelling and lack of internet courtesy). WE, the true faithful "download illegally" yet we show pictures and all talk about how much we have purchased. The Q, then? I notice that you don't post there as much but do see that nobody posts after your nonsense there either "Leather Rebel." You have been called out here by most of the actual "faithful," had spammed messages actually banned and, when scorned by those who once held you in high esteem, you respond by slapping them down with illiterate nonsense?
Personally, I feel sad for what you have become - a true spammer. Look at this thread alone and all the comments by those who once (and hope to again) call you a heavy metal "friend." I now imagine you walking around with a tin foil hat on your head to ward off the evil beings from beyond who are trying to sap your metal fervor to power their spaceships.
Sanity, quite obviously, doesn't become you now. Perhaps someday I'll raise a coke in honor of a friend I once knew and liked. Until then, enjoy talking to yourself and Bwian, the troll. For the love of Priest, go to YouTube.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
THIS PLACE IS TOTALLY INFESTED WITH ALIENS AND METAL HYJACKERS.
JUDAS PRIEST GET RIPED OFF MILLIONS WITH PREVIOUS STUDIO ALBUM AND WITH ALL
THE ILLEGAL DOWNLOADING GOING ON THESE DAYS WITH MUSIC AND METAL.AND INSTEAD OF JUST SHUTTING YOUR HOLE YOU TRY TO RAM THE
FAITH INTO PEOPLES BRAINS AND FOR THEM TO PREACH IT TO OTHERS SUPPORT
THE METAL BUY THE ALBUMS AND YOUR TOLD TO SHUT UP.
WELL THEN INSTEAD WHY DONT WE TRY TO GUESS HOW MANY ILLEGAL DOWNLOADS
WILL BE WITH THE NEXT NEW ALBUM.
YOU CAN COUNT ME OUT
[Nupe The Ripper] Monday, March 19, 2012 5:04:27 AM
Video is from Dallas (with some bits, such as pyro effects from San Antonio), but the audio on the album and the video are different, so I belive that the album itself was recorded mostly or completely in Atlanta (which is mentioned as the other recording location on the back cover of the album). [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by tasnam1 from Sunday, March 18, 2012 9:09:56 PM)
tasnam1 wrote:
Nupe,
I thought Priest....Live was from Dallas in 1986 or is it just the VIDEO from the Dallas show?
Nupe The Ripper wrote:
So, as I posted earlier, I finally got my Single Cuts limited edition boxset. And. after some listening and generally going through the contents, I felt that a short review would be in order.
There's a lot of good sides in this boxset. Most importantly, many of the B-sides featured have never been released on a CD, or were only released on the out-of print release Priest, Live and Rare, which is not endorsed by the band. Also, the audio quality seems to be somewhat better than on the 2001 remasters. And I also like the idea to have the singles in sleeves that mimick the original single artworks, although it means that there is a whopping 20 CDs with only 2-4 tracks each. But it wasn't too much trouble for me to copy the CDs on my computer (both in WAV and mp3, mind you) and burn three CDs of my own that contain all of the tracks, except the duplicate versions of Evening Star, Starbreaker (live), United and Better by You Better Than Me.
However, there's also quite a few errors that decrease the overall score I'm going to give for this:
Liner notes/track listing:
Sin After Sin is named as the band's fourth album in the notes for the Better By You Better Than Me and Evening Star 7" singles, and BBYBTM and Invader are claimed to come from SAS as well.
Starbreaker, the B-side for Evening Star 7", is erroneusly claimed to be the studio version in the liner notes (the track list has it down correctly), however it's actually the same live version that also appears on the Take on the World 12".
The liner notes for the Take on the World 12" have Starbreaker and White Heat, Red Hot in the wrong order, and they also claim that the live version of White Heat is over seven minutes long (which is correct for Starbreaker, instead). The actual track listing has the correct order, though.
"Burnin' Up" is erroneusly listed as being part of the "Judas Priest Audio File".
Locked In 12" is listed as being released in May 1986 in both the liner notes and track listing, however this is impossible because the live tracks come from the May 23rd St. Louis concert (Desert Plains, ie. it's the same version as on the Point of Entry remaster) and June 20th (Freewheel Burning, recorded at The Omni, Atlanta and released on Priest...Live). Either the date is wrong or then they have wrong live tracks.
Artwork:
Take on the World and Living After Midnight are missing their distinctive artworks. Evening Star 12" could've used the picture LP artwork.
All of the 12" singles with artwork actually use the 7" artworks (Hot Rockin', Freewheel Burning, Some Heads Are Gonna Roll, Locked In, Painkiller, A Touch of Evil, Night Crawler).
Single contents:
The Freewheel Burning 12" is an oddity. Instead of having a version of Freewheel Burning with an extended intro and live versions of Breaking the Law and You've Got Another Thing Comin' (both from US Festival 1983) as it should have, it has the ordinary 7"/album version of Freewheel Burning, the live version of BTL from US Fest, and the studio album version of YGATC.
Live songs (not so much of an error by the producer, just some nit-picking):
The live tracks on the Hot Rockin' 12" (Breaking the Law and Living After Midnight) were recorded at Jaap Edenhal, Amsterdam, Holland on 14th February 1981 .
Exciter's live version, the B-side for YGATC, comes from Unleashed In the East.
As stated before, the Locked In 12" live tracks come from Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO, 23rd May 1986 (Desert Plains, also featured on the Point of Entry remaster) and The Omni, Atlanta, GA, 20th June 1986 (Freewheel Burning, also featured on Priest...Live!).
The live version of You've Got Another Thing Comin' featured on the A Touch of Evil 12" comes from Priest...Live! and was recorded on 20th June 1986 at the Omni, Atlanta, GA.
The live versions of Breaking the Law and Living After Midnight featured on the Night Crawler 12" come from Priest...Live! and were recorded on 20th June 1986 at the Omni, Atlanta, GA.
All in all, despite of being much use to any Priest collector who doesn't want to collect all singles on vinyl, the rather amateurish errors reduce the overall score. I'm going to give it 3 out of 5. Edited at: Saturday, March 17, 2012 4:30:47 PM
[Nupe The Ripper] Saturday, March 17, 2012 4:22:56 PM
So, as I posted earlier, I finally got my Single Cuts limited edition boxset. And. after some listening and generally going through the contents, I felt that a short review would be in order.
There's a lot of good sides in this boxset. Most importantly, many of the B-sides featured have never been released on a CD, or were only released on the out-of print release Priest, Live and Rare, which is not endorsed by the band. Also, the audio quality seems to be somewhat better than on the 2001 remasters. And I also like the idea to have the singles in sleeves that mimick the original single artworks, although it means that there is a whopping 20 CDs with only 2-4 tracks each. But it wasn't too much trouble for me to copy the CDs on my computer (both in WAV and mp3, mind you) and burn three CDs of my own that contain all of the tracks, except the duplicate versions of Evening Star, Starbreaker (live), United and Better by You Better Than Me.
However, there's also quite a few errors that decrease the overall score I'm going to give for this:
Liner notes/track listing:
Sin After Sin is named as the band's fourth album in the notes for the Better By You Better Than Me and Evening Star 7" singles, and BBYBTM and Invader are claimed to come from SAS as well.
Starbreaker, the B-side for Evening Star 7", is erroneusly claimed to be the studio version in the liner notes (the track list has it down correctly), however it's actually the same live version that also appears on the Take on the World 12".
The liner notes for the Take on the World 12" have Starbreaker and White Heat, Red Hot in the wrong order, and they also claim that the live version of White Heat is over seven minutes long (which is correct for Starbreaker, instead). The actual track listing has the correct order, though.
"Burnin' Up" is erroneusly listed as being part of the "Judas Priest Audio File".
Locked In 12" is listed as being released in May 1986 in both the liner notes and track listing, however this is impossible because the live tracks come from the May 23rd St. Louis concert (Desert Plains, ie. it's the same version as on the Point of Entry remaster) and June 20th (Freewheel Burning, recorded at The Omni, Atlanta and released on Priest...Live). Either the date is wrong or then they have wrong live tracks.
Artwork:
Take on the World and Living After Midnight are missing their distinctive artworks. Evening Star 12" could've used the picture LP artwork.
All of the 12" singles with artwork actually use the 7" artworks (Hot Rockin', Freewheel Burning, Some Heads Are Gonna Roll, Locked In, Painkiller, A Touch of Evil, Night Crawler).
Single contents:
The Freewheel Burning 12" is an oddity. Instead of having a version of Freewheel Burning with an extended intro and live versions of Breaking the Law and You've Got Another Thing Comin' (both from US Festival 1983) as it should have, it has the ordinary 7"/album version of Freewheel Burning, the live version of BTL from US Fest, and the studio album version of YGATC.
Live songs (not so much of an error by the producer, just some nit-picking):
The live tracks on the Hot Rockin' 12" (Breaking the Law and Living After Midnight) were recorded at Jaap Edenhal, Amsterdam, Holland on 14th February 1981 .
Exciter's live version, the B-side for YGATC, comes from Unleashed In the East.
As stated before, the Locked In 12" live tracks come from Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO, 23rd May 1986 (Desert Plains, also featured on the Point of Entry remaster) and The Omni, Atlanta, GA, 20th June 1986 (Freewheel Burning, also featured on Priest...Live!).
The live version of You've Got Another Thing Comin' featured on the A Touch of Evil 12" comes from Priest...Live! and was recorded on 20th June 1986 at the Omni, Atlanta, GA.
The live versions of Breaking the Law and Living After Midnight featured on the Night Crawler 12" come from Priest...Live! and were recorded on 20th June 1986 at the Omni, Atlanta, GA.
All in all, despite of being much use to any Priest collector who doesn't want to collect all singles on vinyl, the rather amateurish errors reduce the overall score. I'm going to give it 3 out of 5. Edited at: Saturday, March 17, 2012 4:30:47 PM
[Nupe The Ripper] Friday, March 16, 2012 12:43:59 PM
This is making me really happy:
After all this waiting I got the Single Cuts boxset today (or technically yesterday, but I only picked it up from the post office today)! Despite there being very little protective materials, the box has no damage on it. And as you can see, I also received the magnets! No errors in the singles themselves, got everything that was listed.
[Nupe The Ripper] Friday, March 16, 2012 9:59:21 AM
Even without listening to the tracks (I can't because they're blocked in my country), the mention of Colorado and LAM being the newest single likely means that they're from the Denver 1980 soundboard bootleg (which has been sold even at Amazon every now and then, but completely without consent from the band).
You can find an mp3 copy of the whole concert on my site. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Mr. Dave Genocide from Friday, March 16, 2012 12:42:42 AM)
Mr. Dave Genocide wrote:
Alright.. T'was on Playlist.com to look at sum Priest songs on there.. And came across live verisons / concert... Someone please, for the love of God, tell me this concert:
So with 'Genocide', I still want to say '70s Priest, but I found out once finding ' Living', it deff. was Holland on drums cos Halford announces their 1) in Colorado; and 2) It's their new single. So now that I've wasted time on here, I hope you enjoy these songs hahaha.
[Nupe The Ripper] Monday, February 06, 2012 4:05:43 PM
I think the reason why they haven't changed the setlist is because they haven't been in Asia on this tour yet, and they want to give the Asian fans the same show what the Europeans and Americans got last year.
However, I really hope that they'll change the setlist for the next European leg - after all, last year they visited most of the countries listed for the next leg as well, so most of Europe has already experienced the setlist.
[Nupe The Ripper] Friday, February 03, 2012 9:22:48 AM
Got home from school a little less than hour ago - after spending three and a half hours in various traffic jams! In comparison, it usually doesn't take more than half an hour for me to get home. The road conditions are very slippery, and visibility is very bad because of snowfall.
[Nupe The Ripper] Monday, January 30, 2012 5:35:46 PM
Maybe because there really isn't much to release in the first place. There's Tokyo '78, a couple of Japanese lip-syncs, the '78 Killing Machine promos (concert film overdubbed with studio track) and the rare "Rock Forever" TV performance. That's pretty much what there is from the 70s, except for some 8mm camshots that I have never seen. Of course, if they still had the full Tokyo '78 concert or the Brighton '78 concert used for the promo videos, then there'd be quite a nice amount of material. However I don't have high hopes regarding those given that even the master tapes for Live Vengeance '82 were reportedly lost and eventually found in quite bad condition.
Not counting short TV appearances, the only unreleased pro-shots from the 80s known to exist are US Festival and Dortmund Festival '83, and one that may be in existence is New Haven '88 - and even then it's just a rumor. Of course there's also whatever leftover clips they have from the filming of Priest...Live (San Antonio being reported as the other filming location besides Dallas), but there's little point in releasing those. From the Painkiller tour ,however, we have the famous Detroit 1990 live feed, Rock in Rio 1991 (almost-full concert) and the Irvine Meadows 1991 gig filmed by ABC, all of which could be used for a Painkiller-era DVD.
They're not exactly KISS who have a dozen or so pro-shot shows from the 70s. Curiously though, most of them weren't filmed by the band's management, but by the arenas themselves to be shown on the big screen live feed, the tapes being kept in the archives afterwards. While Priest never played big arenas with such capabilities in the 70s, perhaps there still is a slight chance that there's something in the vaults. At least that's what KK replied when I asked him about it... [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Maple Syrup from Sunday, January 29, 2012 9:27:48 PM)
Maple Syrup wrote:
Will there ever be any unreleased video footage from any early tours? Why doesnt Priest "grasp the past" rather than dismiss the early years?..MpleSyrp
Got a couple of updates from Freeze, Becks is having a baby, Guido went on vacation about 9 times,
Vail went to Mexico. Spa checks in, Brian left, then came back, Headbanger disagree's with everything I post,
Accolyte(?) checked in, everyone loves the new Priest tour, me not so much, yes I've been told about it
and JD told me to go fuck myself. I think that's about it.
Anyone?
Peace
(had to edit)
Nupe shows up from time time along wiyh a few newbies. There's more, I just can't remember everything.(Quoting Message by joedraper from Sunday, January 22, 2012 5:29:21 AM)
joedraper wrote:
I'm still alive!! I mean.. hello, how are y'all? lol
So what's going on as of late? miss anything interesting etc who can give me a nice consice summary??
Well I have an announcement to make everyone! For those of you not on facebook, where I just officially announced this news lol.
As of today I am 12 weeks and 6 days pregnant! I had my scan today and bubs looks healthy and bouncy, thank goodness. A new Judas Priest fan is entering the world at the end of July!!!! Craig and I are both stoked. Yes the pic has my name on it, I wasn't sure how to crop it lol.
[Nupe The Ripper] Friday, January 06, 2012 11:13:53 AM
I agree. Without illegal downloading, I wouldn't have found out about most of my favorite bands. The only bands of which I've bought CDs but haven't illegally downloaded their music first have been Uriah Heep and Deep Purple, because I got to know threm through my father. But Priest, Saxon, Scorpions (only a bit heard on radio), Accept, Railway; all of them I've first pirated, then at a later time I've started to buy their stuff to clear my conscience. And I most definitely wouldn't have gotten into them in the first place if it weren't for pirating.
By the way, I've 1 137 songs in my music library, of which probably about 85% are legally bought or bootlegs.
I wasn't into to it at first either but I couldn't help but think of how many times I overpaid for CD's
because of greedy record companies. You may not remember but when CD's first came out
it was hard to find one under $19.99. I bought many of those. Then I think about how many times
I overpaid for concerts and concert tee's and now it doesn't bother me to take music. For me it's
like revenge.
Sometimes downloads help bands.
(Ex.)I downloaded the MRH catalog and now
I love those guys. I've bought all their CD's except the first one and I've seen them 9 times. The
downloads led to me spending money on them. So without downloads alot of bands wouldn't be
heard at all. Except for the rich no one can afford everything out there so downloads lead to
discovery and that sometimes leads to money in the form of concerts, tee's, or other band merchandise.
I haven't downloaded anything Priest except one video that I don't think is for sale anyway. If you
want it and it's out there take it. Eventually they will figure out a way to stop it so take it while you can.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Don't really like illegal downloading and am broke at the moment, so for now I only buy CDs when I can. I don't really look hard for bands/artists, so there's also that. 11,000 songs just sounds like a sh*tload to me. If I had that many I would probably feel bad for leaving some songs/albums to gather cyber-dust. (Quoting Message by Budred from Thursday, January 05, 2012 3:44:14 AM)
Budred wrote:
If I'm correct you must be in your early twenties. With the internet you can get there in no time.
It took me twenty five years. I've only had the aid of a computer for a little more than two years.
What sucks for me is trying to find stuff I don't have. I wish Jimmy's "Check This Out" thread would
have taken off. That was such an awesome idea and could turn all of us on to new stuff if more
would have contributed. Take care!
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
That is still alot of music!! I don't think I'll even reach half of that in my lifetime! I have about 670 songs in my library...my entire CD collection, as well.
Budred wrote:
(Not purposely) but I exaggerated that a little. I thought I had around 11,800 and rounded up.
I saw your post so I checked and I have 11, 200. Pretty much my entire cd collection is on it.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
12,000 songs?!?
Budred wrote:
You make a good point, I didn't even consider that.
I couldn't tell you how many in Cleveland watched Thin Lizzy. I made it a point not to.
I said before that I hated them but I use that term loosely sometimes. I never have cared
for them though and I don't have a single song of theirs on my iPod out of nearly 12,000.
I never thought they were heavy and I didn't like Phil Lynott's voice at all. (I probably spelled
his name wrong). Anyway, take care man.
Head banger wrote:
perhaps the sheer number of priest vids on youtube slows them down?
3000 at your show? did anyone see thin lizzy? here they went on at 6 to less than 100 people est watching. by sets end there were less than a thousand from a crowd of almost 9000 total.
I watched their whole set.... never again.
Budred wrote:
I was checking out my page on youtube and noticed something interesting about my video views.
Before I post anything let me stress that I do not consider Mushroomhead to be better than Judas Priest.
I was checking total views. I'm not going to list song titles just numbers. These videos were put up two
weeks apart.
Total counts for Priest- Total counts for Mushroomhead-
90 491
131 775
96 450
232 699
164 1212
1425
1095
Does this mean anything? (No) but it is pretty interesting. Mushroomhead isn't even big outside of Cleveland
yet their numbers crush Priest. Actually, I find this a little disturbing. Outside of this site Priest is losing their fanbase.
People aren't interested in them anymore it seems. Gund Arena holds 25,000 people yet Priest only had about 3000
people there. Even though I got ripped for saying it maybe they are picking the right time to do a final tour. This tour
had to lose money, at least for the promoters, so I don't think anyone would be all that eager to promote them in the future.
I'm so glad (and grateful) for their longevity but I'm not noticing a future for them. I hope the new album kicks ass, my
guess is that it may be the final one. Just an opinion, only matters to me.
[Nupe The Ripper] Thursday, January 05, 2012 2:47:03 PM
I completely agree with you. I, too, happen to be quite young (20 and a half - will turn 21 in July - to be exact), but I've preferred older music for about a half of my life. When I first got into Priest only a little more than five years ago, I could've never guessed that one day they'd be my number one band. But now I've got their full discography, and I've hunted for bootlegs in search of more material for almost one year. While those times sound very short, I guarantee that I'm an absolute die-hard fan. Nothing I would've believed five years ago!
But I also have to side with Budred in that I do prefer older Priest over the current one. Maybe I wouldn't be so interested in them if it were only for their newer material. But I know that there's (sadly) no way to get back in time, so I respect what they're still doing, over 40 years after the beginning of their career. And even when they will eventually end their career, we can still always have the great memories from the past! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Netanyah99RobH8 from Wednesday, January 04, 2012 8:55:54 PM)
Netanyah99RobH8 wrote:
Well, I am young, quite young and I actually haven't listened to all the Priest songs yet. Judas Priest has made a lot of songs and some people (in my generation) haven't listened to all their songs either. So it might take a some time as they get addicted to a song listen to it over and over then move on to the next song. They will eventually grow out of Priest and moved on but also might have passed it down to family and friends who are young. And all the young people that are new to Priest and Priest's songs will listen to their music that they've made in the past. Priest loses fans but also gets fans right there. I know its past music but it will seem new to the youngsters.
Judas Priest's history they've had members come and go. That might be the case when Priest members we have now leave or something. I really don't want Priest to die out and if that's where their heading I just wanted to say something positive to kinda say that Priest still has fans that are young and will hopefully carry on with the Faith even if its past music.
Personally I think the past is better because there was better artists. I don't know about other people, agree, don't agree, this is just my opinion..
Budred wrote:
I'm going to assume that you must be young and your enthusiasm towards the Priest has to be commended.
If you are young then you probably don't understand the concept of age yet. These guys are not getting any younger
and they definitely don't have the drawing power of years gone by. People are not patient for new music and they
will be passed by if they continue to draw this out so long in between records. I'm afraid that you and your generation
are only going to have the past to enjoy when it comes to Priest. Since Rob's return I've been stuck in the past. I call them
my favorite band but if the only thing I heard from them was what they've done since Demolition then I probably wouldn't be
much of a fan at all. I can't stay in the past when it comes to music, I choose to move forward.
Netanyah99RobH8 wrote:
Aw man. Well I think Priest will have a future with my generation. I've got my whole class addicted to them. Some of my friends have bought albums like single cuts. I've got my younger cousins addicted and they're telling their friends about Priest. Even got some teachers addicted and they pass Priests' awesome music along. No matter what we all know Judas Priest is da beast
Budred wrote:
I was checking out my page on youtube and noticed something interesting about my video views.
Before I post anything let me stress that I do not consider Mushroomhead to be better than Judas Priest.
I was checking total views. I'm not going to list song titles just numbers. These videos were put up two
weeks apart.
Total counts for Priest- Total counts for Mushroomhead-
90 491
131 775
96 450
232 699
164 1212
1425
1095
Does this mean anything? (No) but it is pretty interesting. Mushroomhead isn't even big outside of Cleveland
yet their numbers crush Priest. Actually, I find this a little disturbing. Outside of this site Priest is losing their fanbase.
People aren't interested in them anymore it seems. Gund Arena holds 25,000 people yet Priest only had about 3000
people there. Even though I got ripped for saying it maybe they are picking the right time to do a final tour. This tour
had to lose money, at least for the promoters, so I don't think anyone would be all that eager to promote them in the future.
I'm so glad (and grateful) for their longevity but I'm not noticing a future for them. I hope the new album kicks ass, my
guess is that it may be the final one. Just an opinion, only matters to me.
[Nupe The Ripper] Monday, December 26, 2011 6:46:36 PM
Ordered more Saxon a couple of days before I left to our cottage on Christmas, and two of them arrived just in time before Christmas. The albums I bought were Power & the Glory, Crusader and Rock the Nations, of which Crusader is still in backorder.
[Nupe The Ripper] Wednesday, December 21, 2011 12:14:51 PM
Just listening to the Saxon albums which I've already got (everything else except the Scorp's Love at First Sting, which arrived today, went into backorder), and boy could Priest take lesson from these boys when bonus tracks on remastered albums are considered! Every remaster has a hefty load of bonus tracks, sometimes more than the original album tracks (for example, the eponymous debut album has a whopping 14 bonus tracks). They range from rare B-sides to unreleased live tracks to extremely rare demo tracks. And the remastering has been done much better than with the Priest remasters. Not to mention I payed only 5,90€ from each CD, as they were on a special discount. Highly recommended to anyone who likes Saxon! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Nupe The Ripper from Monday, December 19, 2011 11:47:02 AM)
Nupe The Ripper wrote:
I decided to put my tax returns into good use, and bough a heck of a lot of CDs.
Here's the list:
Scorpions : Animal Magnetism
Scorpions : Love at First Sting
Scorpions : Lovedrive
Scorpions : Blackout
Scorpions : Original Album Classics (In Trance / Virgin Killer / Taken by Force)
Judas Priest : Metalogy
Saxon : Wheels of Steel
Saxon : Strong Arm of the Law
Saxon : Denim And Leather
Saxon : Innocence Is No Excuse
Railway : Climax
Railway : II
Railway : Railway
Total: 187,70€, got a discount of 34 euros because I bought so much!
Edited at: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 12:18:02 PM Edited at: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 12:21:53 PM
[Nupe The Ripper] Tuesday, December 20, 2011 11:07:37 AM
I'm pissed off because of the weather right now. Seriously, it's only four days until Christmas (in Finland, the main celebration takes place during the 24th), but I'm feeling Christmas-y perhaps the least ever. And that's because after two very snowy (perhaps a bit too snowy) winters, we're having a damn climate-change winter at the moment. In other words, there's not a single bit of snow here in the southern parts of the country. And the weather reports don't give any hope that we'd get snow in time, so it'll be a black Christmas, then.
[Nupe The Ripper] Wednesday, December 07, 2011 10:27:50 AM
No I haven't got it yet, I sent them a rather angry e-mail a couple of weeks ago and they said that it's backordered and will ship when they get it in stock. If they ever will...
Hey, all I want to know is if you got your boxset yet? I might have missed the post but inquiring minds want to know!
Nupe The Ripper wrote:
Well you probably know that it doesn't feature "Ripper" in it.
guidogodoy wrote:
Can I guess your name on Dime? lol !!
Nupe The Ripper wrote:
You're very velcome (yeah, I'm The Finnish Ripper on Q, and the uploader of this song)!
As for what I'm listening myself, it's the Flying Hat Band demos in their entirety (with two much rarer songs as well). (Quoting Message by Becks from Tuesday, December 06, 2011 12:06:26 PM)
Becks wrote:
Found this on the Q, never heard this tune live!!!!
[Nupe The Ripper] Wednesday, December 07, 2011 12:59:25 AM
Well you probably know that it doesn't feature "Ripper" in it. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Tuesday, December 06, 2011 8:02:32 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Can I guess your name on Dime? lol !!
Nupe The Ripper wrote:
You're very velcome (yeah, I'm The Finnish Ripper on Q, and the uploader of this song)!
As for what I'm listening myself, it's the Flying Hat Band demos in their entirety (with two much rarer songs as well). (Quoting Message by Becks from Tuesday, December 06, 2011 12:06:26 PM)
Becks wrote:
Found this on the Q, never heard this tune live!!!!
[Nupe The Ripper] Tuesday, December 06, 2011 5:44:39 PM
You're very velcome (yeah, I'm The Finnish Ripper on Q, and the uploader of this song)!
As for what I'm listening myself, it's the Flying Hat Band demos in their entirety (with two much rarer songs as well). [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Becks from Tuesday, December 06, 2011 12:06:26 PM)
Becks wrote:
Found this on the Q, never heard this tune live!!!!
[Nupe The Ripper] Friday, November 04, 2011 5:28:07 AM
It is getting serious now; according to a copy of the law documents (linked on the Q), John Baxter is the sole owner of Metal God Entertainment, Metal God Records & Metal God Apparel. So if the shit really hits the fan here, most of Rob's solo material & merchandise could potentially have the same fate as Priest's Gull-era records.
What is serious? That a manager decided to sue because he was fired? I don't believe for one moment that that dude didn't know he wasn't getting paid...for years.
What a dijk. And 50 mil?
Serious is little children dying of hunger in Africa. This guy sueing Priest has as much of a case as that ex-girlfriend of KK's had when she sued him for his estate.
Was it a "random fact" that your some / all of your copies of "Single Cuts" arrived with some of the corners of the box bashed in due to the lack of bubble wrap when shipped?
I was glad to see that some of the hardcore fans over at the Q mentioned it. Here I thought I was the only one.
Hey Nupe, did yours ever arrive?
hellrider 31038 wrote:
I AM DEFINATLY GOING TO BUY MY CHOSEN FEW ON THE WEEKEND
I HAVE A FEELING I WILL PROBABLY FIND IT VERY INTERESTING AFTER SPINNING MY UK A SIDES SINGLE UM UMMMM UM CUTS CD LOL
AND THAT IS A RANDOM FACT
I HAVE NOT PLAYED THE ONES IN THE CASE YET
I AM IMAGINING WWWWWWWWWWWTTTTTTTTTTTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF.LOL
IF YOU ARE WONDERING WHY
LIKE I SAID BEFORE THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY TO FIND OUT
BUY IT
THAT IS ALSO ANOTHER RANDOM FACT
[Nupe The Ripper] Wednesday, October 26, 2011 4:45:52 PM
I'm pissed off because even after almost two weeks I have no info whether or not Sony is going to send me the Single Cuts box. The only thing that is keeping me sure that the order isn't cancelled is the one euro temporary reservation by them on my debit card.
[Nupe The Ripper] Tuesday, October 18, 2011 9:51:59 AM
I will comment on it when I get it... WTF is taking so long with it, especially when it was pointed out on the Q that the distribution center is almost right next door in Sweden! Or is it another problem with my credit card like with the previous order.
[Nupe The Ripper] Thursday, October 13, 2011 7:01:16 PM
Geez, I was expecting to get mine soon as well, but today I got e-mail stating there was a problem with the credit card checkout. Perhaps it was just the long delay between the order and shipping, so I reordered it. I hope to get it next week.
Here's a full 3D modelled version of the Screaming for Vengeance album cover that I put together in my spare time (I'm an artist working in the games industry). I was a big fan of airbrush art back in the 80s and loved Doug Johnson's work. So, Screaming's 30th Anniversary is coming up. What do you reckon to this being used for the cover if they re-release it? :)
[Nupe The Ripper] Friday, October 07, 2011 2:21:56 AM
I hope that this is the last time they need to move the release date. I mean, of course you can't help if there really is some technical difficulties, but this is starting to get a bit ridiculous. But, I'm a patient man and won't mind waiting for another week.
Help required/request from my fellow JP fans. After Fight broke up, I heard he did another music project/album. Can anyone tell me the name of his band, and albums? Any help would be greatful! TY in advance.
Ohhh, and Fight only had 2 albums right? Fight, and Fight 2?
[Nupe The Ripper] Sunday, October 02, 2011 6:37:02 PM
Thanks, that was an interesting read. For once someone wrote about the matter in a neutral way, instead of accusing either side.
Thanks also for reminding me about the correct technological terms - for a non-native speaker it's not always easy to figure out the correct ones. From now on I won't use "rip" when talking about simple digitizing of analog material.
The addition of this "anti-piracy" system to ISP EULAs is just another example of corporations trampling on human rights to further extend their status and generate even more money to themselves. By doing this they're only making themselves look ridiculous again. Instead of combating the actual crime (the ones who share the files; like I said earlier you can find numerous sources with even a simple Google search), they're attacking the downloaders by severely limiting their privacy. In fact, while in Finland the ISPs aren't (yet) allowed to do that, a recently-passed law now allows for the police to remotelycrack into your computer, bypassing/deactivating any security features on it, if you're even suspected of any sort of crime. Previously that was only allowed in serious crimes and only with a special permission by the attorney.
NTSC v. PAL made sense back in the day when the appliances could only use one format, but nowadays most of them can use both formats. It's current purpose is, like the DVD region codes, only to increase sales.
I also don't believe that piracy is a key factor in Priest releasing compilations. Maybe they have a contrast clause that says "release X amount of albums", and because they're unlikely to release more than a couple of albums worth of new material anymore, they use compilations to fill in. Or then Sony noticed that "hey Judas Priest is getting popular again, why not capitalize on it?".
[Nupe The Ripper] Saturday, October 01, 2011 4:39:25 PM
I originally took that digital copy only for myself as well, but then I thought "it's been out of print for 17 years, the band and the record label are no longer receiving any money from it's sales, and no DVD reissue is in sight (and probably never will)". So, I then decided to upload it. I had previously shared a few out-of-print single B-sides on my site, but when the Single Cuts boxset was announced, I immediately removed them as an official CD release was to be soon available. I would do exactly the same if the Metal Works VHS received a reissue in any form. And no, the Finnish copyright laws aren't any more relaxed than in the USA, but so far I've avoided any trouble.
I love the band and am usually against sharing official material over the internet. If someone puts their whole official discography/videography (that you can easily buy legally from anywhere) on the net (just Google search and you get tons of results), I loathe it. If someone sells bootlegs, I loathe it as well. But if someone shares a release that's been out-of print for over a decade, the band no longer receives any money from it (as all the copies on the market are second-hand) and it isn't receiving a reissue anytime soon, let's just say that I won't feel too bad about it. I did think about putting the VHS-rip on the web for quite a while, but if it offends the other fans too much, I can still remove it. Would only take a couple of minutes, it's a pretty crappy rip anyway...
Oh and J.D. Diamond, I'm not going to buy the Chosen Few, even though I bought the Single Cuts boxset. That compilation offers nothing new to me, unlike the boxset which at least has single B-sides I couldn't have gotten before because of my young age (and lack of funds - old vinyl singles are pretty expensive these days).That's why I haven't bought any Judas Priest compilations at all - I could always make the exact same compilation from the albums I've already bought.
Like I said, I am with you about the dubious reason as to why Priest is releasing these new "Best of" albums. Certainly isn't because of illegal downloading, to be sure.
The rule that is has been the norm (in both the US and Canada) is that you can legally "transcode" a video / music you legally own. It has always been the case and a major reason as to why the digital media rights mafia hasn't been able to go all that far in either country (they do not just govern one country, they claim to "protect" all intellectual property worldwide). Big problem was CSS - the original "scramble" protection code. THAT was made illegal. They shut down many an international site that either sold or gave away a DE-CSS program (i.e. rip). Odd rule. You could, in theory, own a copy of the same movie or album for personal use on various devices (iPhone, PSP, backup) but it was / is illegal to circumvent the CSS code. Go figger. Look at the debate over Pirate Bay for a good discussion of the subject.
Exactly why a great many movies, albums and games have gone "protection-free." Canada is just now making a show about a law that is already on the books.
Nupe's comment about "ripping" JP's "Metal Works" is a misnomer. He transcoded it from one format to another. I own the NTSC version of it and digitized it years ago. It never had protection, thus, perfectly legal for me to make a backup. NOT legal (in the US...Finland is another case) to share it openly as it is copyrighted material. In certain countries, though. That is why many servers have moved to more "share friendly" countries that are out of reach of current international law.
Head banger wrote:
canada just changed or is planning to change the copyright act to permit any use of a song, as long as you dont have to break a digital lock. interesting, all this downloading crap is a pain.
I dont see how priest is making money to replace downloading with more stuff that could easily be downloaded. we have all these songs, rip them in the right order
guidogodoy wrote:
Sorry. Don't buy that argument at all. While there is no doubt that downloading (both legal and illegal) has changed the old school music economic model, you don't exactly go and buy a golf course because you are poor.
It completely flew under the radar of most in the US but there was a recent "major win" by those groups that not only try to stop but actually persecute those who violate the many acts and laws that are out to protect Digital Media Rights.
The freelance writer and consumer advocate for a "fair use" policy, Quinn Norton, recently released a bombshell in the trade rags such as "Wired" and MaxPC magazines. It slipped by in the form of an EULA (end user license agreement) that the big 5 internet providers formed. Basically, with no laws, most have now signed away their rights without knowing it simply by using their internet provider. They track you with even the suspicion of an illegal download and your company "dings" you. A few "dings" and you are forced to go through an online class before you are granted full internet access again. Your acct flagged a second time? Possible ban from use and lawsuits.
This is now going worldwide. Write your Congressman? Nope. No laws have been passed. Just your own ISP's EULA. Good luck to the tech neophytes and, oh yes, the idiot here recently boasting about "Limewire" (Gnutella), Frostwire (same access, dope), and even the torrent clients.
Nope. As you can tell, I don't buy that argument at all. It died with the Shitallica round of lawsuits back in 2006.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
PERHAPS THEY ARE TRYING TO GET BACK IN A HONEST WAY THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FUUUCCC??????EEEEENNNNNNNNNN RIPED OFF FROM THEM AND (OUR METAL FAITH) WITH ILLEGAL DOWNLOADING J.D DIAMOND THE COMMANDER.
(Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Friday, September 30, 2011 5:03:03 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
People who bought the single cuts are probably going to buy "The Chosen Few" which turns my stomach just typing this...."The Chosen Few"....oohhhh "other metal artists chose these same old tracks we've heard a trillion times" so we are supposed to get excited because of the new packaging with liner notes from these artists ect......its a huge rip off and I think it hurts the band putting out all these crappy "best of" bullshit. I agree with you Head Banger.
And I don't want K.K. back in the band....ever,if he decided to join again he would probably bring in more poison watering the next LP down as much as he can with experimental BULLSHIT. Stay retired,we don't want you back! I need one more studio album from Judas Priest and I don't want it fucked up by Mr. K.K. Nostradamus.
I wouldn't mind seeing the band quit playing live shows altogether and just make studio LPs from here on out.
Head banger wrote:
no and no
I have everything from single cuts already, why drop a bunch of cash on something for the shelf only? makes more sense to buy concert tix, so I did.
I dont care if kk comes back, I dont want 3 guitars. kk back and wanting to play great but he doesnt want it so he should stay retired and if you got a hundred thousand people to click the widgit you think kk cares about that? not a chance
hellrider 31038 wrote:
DID YOU BUY SINGLE CUTS AND DID YOU CLICK ON THE KK WIDGET.
Head banger wrote:
ok, no telling. how about begging...
hellrider 31038 wrote:
DONT TELL ME WHAT TO DO.LOL
Head banger wrote:
could they reform you to confine your posts to one thread. create one....
[Nupe The Ripper] Friday, September 30, 2011 1:41:38 PM
Hi folks, another major update on my site: a DVD section! The first ones to be included are: VH1 Behind the Music (2010 Remastered edition), a mega-rare rip of the Metal Works VHS from 1993 (courtesy of myself!), the Dream Deceivers documentary about the Reno suicides and the court case that followed, the Visual Metalogy pro-shot compilation (a must-have for any serious fan!), and finally the already-featured Rock in Rio 1991 concert.
awe you had my hopes up.... a whole set of the final countdown.... then I think they did a song called carie.... then shit... where is google? did europe do enough albums to make one set list, no matter how crappy?
jimmyjames wrote:
Yeah thought about doing that sort of thing, a whole show of 70s, whole show of 80's, 90s, 00s would make a good month. Also thought of doing a show that was all British then one that was all Europe (the continent not the band JD, don't get your hopes up), then one that was all the US and one that was the rest of the world. My next "special" show is coming up in a few weeks, all cover versions.
Brian_Evans wrote:
Yeah 70's and 80's stuff .....Priest, Maiden, Black Sabbath, Accept, Dio, Ozzy with Rhoads, Motorhead, Queensryche, early Def Leppard and Scorpoins ect.
(Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Friday, September 16, 2011 5:35:19 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
Yeah could do? What do you mean by classic though? Stuff over 20 years old?
Brian_Evans wrote:
Hey Jimmy, ever done a show that was just all classic metal?
[Nupe The Ripper] Wednesday, September 14, 2011 5:13:46 PM
Hi folks, you might be delighted to hear that I just added a lossless FLAC version of Long Beach 1984 on my site. Even better, it's not the commonly circulated FM recording, but instead the Pre-FM master. In fact, it now sounds as good as any official release!
Edited at: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 5:27:53 PM
[Nupe The Ripper] Friday, September 02, 2011 1:23:25 AM
Priest...Live should be your next purchase. After that, British Steel 30th Anniversary and then A Touch of Evil:Live. Only get the Ripper-era live albums if you want a full collection.
[Nupe The Ripper] Friday, September 02, 2011 1:19:26 AM
I'd suggest getting the Electric Eye DVD. It has some BBC performances from 1975 to 1980, all music videos from 1980 to 1990, and most importantly the Dallas '86 concert (aka Priest...Live VHS) in remastered form. If you're not too irritated by the Turbo-era songs and stage clothes, it's a nice concert to see.
If you're in for a more classic performance, get Live Vengeance '82. As the name suggests, it's from the time they peaked in America, and has a much different setlist to Dallas '86. It's currently the earliest full concert video that has been officially released.
Those two are the most essential ones for any Priest fan.
[Nupe The Ripper] Thursday, September 01, 2011 3:37:09 PM
Am I the only one here who owns all four Ripper-era albums (and the DVD as well)?
Not to say that they're any good, I only got them to complete my collection. I rarely listen to them at all. I completely understand if someone wants to ignore them.
[Nupe The Ripper] Wednesday, August 31, 2011 2:03:38 AM
I don't have the original CDs, but I do have most of them as original vinyls...
A lot of the remasters suffer from the so-called "loudness war", i.e. the dynamic range (difference between the loud and silent parts) has been compressed to make the CD sound louder. Which is utterly stupid, because AFAIK everyone still has a volume knob or slider in their CD player. It also tends to make the albums sound more "piercing" (i.e. the higher frequencies are louder). In fact, if you listen to the CDs loud enough you can hear the distortion this practice causes. Also, sometimes there's an over-application of noise reduction, making the records sound somewhat muffled at points. The only good reason to keep the Remasters is the bonus tracks.
So yeah, if you can afford and find the original CDs, get them if you want better sound quality (in my opinion). But you should do just fine with the Remasters as well, it's your call. I wouldn't suggest replacing the whole catalog, you could buy one original CD that you also have as a remaster, and then compare yourself. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by metal12 from Tuesday, August 30, 2011 10:38:43 PM)
metal12 wrote:
You guys probably has the original CD release from 80s ??? do you think its worth replacing them to re-master version thats are now out ??
I have pretty much all the new remaster versions, but I was wondering if original release were better ?
[Nupe The Ripper] Wednesday, August 31, 2011 1:45:52 AM
Slight correction there: Spapad was right that Gull Records owns the rights to he first two albums and any demo recordings they made during that era. However, as the original writers of the songs, they kept the full rights to perform (and re-record if they wanted to) any of the RR/SWoD songs. That's why a few SWoD tracks (Victim of Changes, The Ripper, Tyrant and Genocide) remained in the setlist throughout the 70s, although Rocka Rolla was completely ignored after 1976 (before Never Satisfied was played this year). Tyrant and Genocide were permanently dropped in '82 to renew the setlist, but VoC and The Ripper have remained to present day.
An example: a couple of RR and SWoD tracks were featured on Metalogy, and Sony had to pay licensing fees to Gull for those. If they had re-recorded them, or used live versions of them (if they would exist), they wouldn't have had to pay anything. That's why all Sony/Columbia compilations usually use the Unleashed in the East versions of SWoD tracks and completely ignore RR.
I do wonder though, that how they have settled things with Gull regarding the upcoming Studio Albums boxset, as it also includes RR and SWoD, supposedly in remastered format as well. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Tuesday, August 30, 2011 10:32:11 PM) Edited at: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 1:48:35 AM
[Nupe The Ripper] Tuesday, August 30, 2011 11:52:40 AM
I just spotted a two-CD Single Cuts release at a local department store. At a closer look, it contained only the A-sides of all the 1977-1992 singles. It had all Sony/Columbia markings on it so I presume it's an official release.
What bothers me more about this is that there's not a single word about a 2CD release in this site's news...
E: Yup, it's on Sony Music's "New Releases: Week 34". Released on 24th August, a day before the Box was originally supposed to come out.
[Nupe The Ripper] Monday, August 29, 2011 2:02:48 AM
Well I'm not giving them up easily, they're both original-issue LPs and cost a fortune actually 22 euros combined. And they were hard enough to get in Finland in the first place!
HEY NUPE THE RIPPER COOL SHOT MY FRIEND
AND NICE ALBUMS GOT THEM BUT I WANT YOURS TO
GIIIVVVEEE THHHEEMMM TOOO MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
(Quoting Message by Nupe The Ripper from Friday, August 26, 2011 4:06:29 PM)
Nupe The Ripper wrote:
All right, here's the newest picture of me. Took it on a timer with a Coke bottle acting as a temporary camera tripod, lol! It's a bit grainy, but my camera is quite old and is only good at eating up batteries at an astonishing rate...
Also, if you feel like it, don't hesitate to add me on Facebook. I just put the link in my profile here.
[Nupe The Ripper] Saturday, August 27, 2011 6:58:05 AM
Oh yeah, that's highly annoying! I remember a few years back, my first eyeglasses got bent badly in an accident. The optician did eventually manage to straighten them up, but it had the nasty side effect that the screw which held the other lens in place was permanently loosened up. So every now and then the lens would pop off, and it was especially nasty if it happened in the middle of the schoolday. Luckily we had precision screwdrivers at home, so it I didn't need to go to the optician every time. I eventually got new glasses as it was noticed that my eyesight had improved in an ordinary checkup, although since then it has again worsened so I'm currently having my 4th glasses.
[Nupe The Ripper] Friday, August 26, 2011 4:06:29 PM
All right, here's the newest picture of me. Took it on a timer with a Coke bottle acting as a temporary camera tripod, lol! It's a bit grainy, but my camera is quite old and is only good at eating up batteries at an astonishing rate...
Also, if you feel like it, don't hesitate to add me on Facebook. I just put the link in my profile here.
[Nupe The Ripper] Monday, August 01, 2011 5:00:32 PM
I had my sister (who is older than me) with me at the Tampere gig in June, mostly as a camerawoman because I couldn't take a lot of pictures because of my excitement, fist-shaking and headbanging. Now, after she heard "Turbo Lover" from the CD a few weeks after that concert, she kindly asked "could you please put that song on my PC, I like it". A new metalhead in the making? Who knows...
why post in the Q? second how. accounts are never aproved there.
Eternal Servant wrote:
What I meant "natural" is to think the message from JB was deleted because he didn't want it there.
Soap opera = drama = JB message-gate
Meanwhile I'll work on my English, you'll keep updating on that pendant situation.
Marathon man, not just lurk on the Q, post in the Q. How about that?
guidogodoy wrote:
While the scenario you describe is, indeed, "natural" at the Q it has certainly not always been the case. You could certainly give as many examples as I could.
As for the rest of your message to me, I frankly don't understand what you are trying to say (save for forget the uhhh .... "soap" .... drama)? An English problem, to be sure. Believe me, though, I keep my soap on a rope so there is nothing to drop. LOL!
Board members: heads-up! The "Tipton pendant" is stil unavailable! (that help?!?)
Eternal Servant wrote:
In the Q, if someone else uses the account of another person, that action results in banning according to the past posts by those who were banned for that reason.
If it showed that the message was from JB, it's natural to think he himself decided not to show it in public.
Marathon man, forget this soap drama and tell the board members update on Tipton pendant and tour diary on his site.
guidogodoy wrote:
Not to stir shit, but how does anyone know JB himself deleted the post?
[Nupe The Ripper] Saturday, July 30, 2011 12:25:18 PM
Well the problem with Madison Square Garden is that Priest has been banned from playing there ever since the 1984 concert, when the audience went wild and started ripping seats off etc., causing a quarter of million in damages.
I too have a question regarding tour dates. IZOD Center is a pretty far location for concerts. If anybody from the band or their management reads this, that would be great. My question is in addtition to playing all the dates announced, why are you not playing in New York City itself at Madison Aqwuare Garden or in Connecticut? It is one thing if this another tour or something, than that is understandable. But if this is going to be you very last world tour, than it would be only fair if you could please play at MSG in NYC or at one of the three Connecticut arenas (XL Center in Hartford, Harbor Yard arena in Bridgeport or at Mohegan Sun). I realize Connecticut is a small market, but if this is going to be your last big tour, than I think it is only fair that you give the fans in Connecticut a chance to say good bye. The same goes for the fans in New York City itself and to play one last gig at MSG would be very great moment for heavy metal music! - Best to you you on the Epitaph tour!
Eeeeehhhhh??? Seen as that post has been removed, who knows if it was a real thing or some random stirring shit. Weird though.
Nupe The Ripper wrote:
This in on the Halford Quorum:
Dear Visitors of RH.com:
Metal God Entertainment, Metal God Records and its affiliated companies and web properties will begin removing Judas Priest related topics from its web sites in protest of Glenn Tipton (decision maker), Jayne Andrews (amateur thug for Glenn, can't trust, leach), Bill Curbishley (apathetic leach) and John McBride (Unlicensed, Unregistered Accountant, leach) for lack of Professional and Ethical conduct as it relates to Rob Halford's business matters for much of the last six (6) years.
Rob will publicly deny the above, so we will take a seat next to K.K. Downing and watch how the Glenn and Jayne show plays out.
I’m sure you’ll read about the details of this matter more in future.
Metal God Entertainment, Metal God Records and its affiliated companies and web properties will begin removing Judas Priest related topics from its web sites in protest of Glenn Tipton (decision maker), Jayne Andrews (amateur thug for Glenn, can't trust, leach), Bill Curbishley (apathetic leach) and John McBride (Unlicensed, Unregistered Accountant, leach) for lack of Professional and Ethical conduct as it relates to Rob Halford's business matters for much of the last six (6) years.
Rob will publicly deny the above, so we will take a seat next to K.K. Downing and watch how the Glenn and Jayne show plays out.
I’m sure you’ll read about the details of this matter more in future.
[Nupe The Ripper] Friday, July 29, 2011 2:45:08 PM
This in on the Halford Quorum:
Dear Visitors of RH.com:
Metal God Entertainment, Metal God Records and its affiliated companies and web properties will begin removing Judas Priest related topics from its web sites in protest of Glenn Tipton (decision maker), Jayne Andrews (amateur thug for Glenn, can't trust, leach), Bill Curbishley (apathetic leach) and John McBride (Unlicensed, Unregistered Accountant, leach) for lack of Professional and Ethical conduct as it relates to Rob Halford's business matters for much of the last six (6) years.
Rob will publicly deny the above, so we will take a seat next to K.K. Downing and watch how the Glenn and Jayne show plays out.
I’m sure you’ll read about the details of this matter more in future.
[Nupe The Ripper] Wednesday, July 27, 2011 1:46:27 PM
Nope, no mention on who took it. That's the only bigger-size version I found. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Wednesday, July 27, 2011 1:35:49 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Nice. Any credits as to who took it?
Man, it would have been a simply awesome shot had it just focused on Glenn and had gotten the entire headstock of the guitar in it. Still, I'd like to have a high res of this one.
Nupe The Ripper wrote:
Well here's a slightly bigger version of it:
guidogodoy wrote:
Claro que sí. I don't know who took it but it is one of the few action shots of Glenn just firing metal from his fingers. I contacted Ross Halfin a while ago, got a response but his prices are just absurd.
Not sure he took that photo at all, though. Help me find it!
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
If you do get it, send me a copy. Pretty please? Por favor? S'il vous plait? Bitte?
guidogodoy wrote:
I want the picture of Glenn here. Freakin' awesome (both song and photo).
[Nupe The Ripper] Wednesday, July 27, 2011 4:14:51 AM
Well after all these months, I finally found this bootleg in lossless FLAC format. Unfortunately it's only the files, and I don't have the artwork either (although I probably could make some in a matter of few hours). Are you still interested in it?
I'd love to have a copy of that one Maple! That is a unique line up of songs.
Maple Syrup wrote:
This is a good sounding boot. Amazing Priest was still playing White Heat Red Hot up until early 1980..wow. BTW does anybody remember the EXCITER PAGE? That guy (Armin) had the best JP boots period and I was so glad to get some of them, back in the day. MpleSyrp
[Nupe The Ripper] Wednesday, July 27, 2011 4:09:43 AM
I've got six tracks of The Flying Hat Band demos in mp3 format on my site: the four ones that are widely available, including on Glenn's own website, and then two much more rarer ones. They're at the very bottom of the downloads page (being the oldest tracks currently included there). [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Priestfan2010 from Wednesday, July 27, 2011 2:43:14 AM)
Priestfan2010 wrote:
Nupe: Yes I have visited the site and I like what you've done with it!
And speaking of Glenn, does anyone know where I can get any of the Flying Hat Band's demos?
Claro que sí. I don't know who took it but it is one of the few action shots of Glenn just firing metal from his fingers. I contacted Ross Halfin a while ago, got a response but his prices are just absurd.
Not sure he took that photo at all, though. Help me find it!
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
If you do get it, send me a copy. Pretty please? Por favor? S'il vous plait? Bitte?
guidogodoy wrote:
I want the picture of Glenn here. Freakin' awesome (both song and photo).
Rocka Rolla - Run Of The Mill is too long at times,not a favorite but I still like the track
Sad Wings Of Destiny - Epitaph I still like but I like the other tracks better
Sin After Sin - Here Come The Tears - Hate thgis song and Nupe,the rest of Sin After Sin isn't all heavy besides Last Rose Of Summer lol
Stained Class - Saints In Hell - something about it that I just don't like
Hell Bent For Leather - Burnin' Up - I hate this song
British Steel - The Rage - still like it but least favorite
Point Of Entry -Don't Go - ridiculous,video makes it worse
Screaming For Vengeance - Take These Chains- never like it
Defenders Of The Faith - Night Comes Down -crappy song
Turbo - Parental Guidance- Priest's worst song ever!
Ram It Down - Johnny B.Goode -total shit cover song & I'm A Rocker - worst original track on R.I.D. just stupid
Painkiller - One Shot At Glory - always hated the pre-chorus: This Day Will Last Forever..ect...lame
Jugulator - Death Row - fucking irritating chorus
Demolition- Lost And Found - lame song
Angel Of Retribution - Lochness - Totally boring and lame
Nostradamus- Exiled - This song sucks
[Nupe The Ripper] Monday, July 25, 2011 12:29:26 PM
Yep, Priest are in a really good form this tour, saw them myself in Tampere. Definitely a tour not to be missed.
By the way, nice to see you after a long break! Have you been to my site recently? I've added a lot of stuff there, I still update the site regularly but stopped putting regular news updates on this forum after it seemed that no-one really cared.
[Nupe The Ripper] Monday, July 25, 2011 9:07:54 AM
Ok, so there's all sorts of "rate albums/songs" topics around here, but I haven't yet seen one with this question: what are your least favorite tracks off each studio album the band has released? Try to name only one song from each album, but if you really can't decide then you can always name other ones as well.
My list:
Rocka Rolla: Caviar and Meths. Sorry, but if you couldn't use the full song because of time constraints, then why bother with this rather pointless instrumental? Sad Wings of Destiny: Epitaph. Just doesn't fit well to the dramatic feel of the rest of the album. Sin After Sin: Last Rose of Summer. The rest of the album is hard'n'heavy, and then there's this oddity. It's a beatiful song, but again doesn't fit with the other songs. Stained Class: Hard to choose a least favorite from here, but I'd say Invader. Killing Machine/Hell Bent for Leather: Evening Star. Way too poppy and commercial to my taste. British Steel: You Don't Have to Be Old to Be Wise. For some reason I don't find it as good as the other songs. Point of Entry: You Say Yes. One of the most idotic choruses the band has ever written. Screaming for Vengeance: Pain and Pleasure. Plods around and never really creates interest in me. Defenders of the Faith: the "title track". While it's nice when performed live, it's just stupid as a studio version. Turbo: Wild Nights, Hot & Crazy Days. While it's a nice summer song, again that's not what you expect from Priest. Ram It Down: Love You to Death. Too much synth and too repetitive. Painkiller: All Guns Blazing. It's a fast one, but that doesn't always guarantee a good song. Jugulator: Decapitate. Another song that's way too much repetitive. Demolition: One on One. Way too long and repetitive. Angel of Retribution: Eulogy. While it mentions a lot of Priest's history, musically it's just boring. Nostradamus: Future of Mankind. Too long.
[Nupe The Ripper] Saturday, July 16, 2011 4:46:18 PM
Well I went to the pub with two of my very good friends today. While at there, we chose a table near the karaoke stage, because the other one of my friends wanted to sing. Between the karaoke performances, some random songs were played; everything from Dio to MC Hammer to the newest Finnish schlager-star. But at one point, a very familiar synth-guitar intro started playing. It was bloody Turbo Lover, being played in my local pub! It was the first time I heard Judas Priest being played in a public place (except for the concerts or on a jukebox, of course). Even if it was "just" Turbo Lover, it felt pretty awesome. Sadly, the song was cut when someone wanted to sing a really bad version of Hurriganes' "Get On".
[Nupe The Ripper] Thursday, July 14, 2011 7:21:18 PM
Let me envision that... during the last show, the band ends the set with Metal Gods. During the slamming intro, the lights are dimmed, but they'll soon get brighter so that the crowd can see Ian taking steps in rhythm with the slams of the intro. The intro is extended long enough that Ian can make it to the front of the stage, after which the rest of the band will join up and start playing, Ian still up close to the front.
HRMG, do you think that surprise step forward will truely be just ONE step? I do. LOL
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Thanks for finding the interview HRMG!
Ian Hill on the upcomming new studio album - "Its gonna be a great album and its gonna carry on from where Angel Of Retribution left off. We got Nostradamus out of our systems and now we are heading towards classic Priest metal."
This is freaking AWSOME!!!!!!!!! 2 AXE ATTACK WITH K.K. IN GOLF HAT! LOFL!!!
(Quoting Message by HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS from Tuesday, July 12, 2011 11:12:04 AM)
Ian Hill is waiting patiently at the backstage area, just a couple of hours before Judas Priest unleash an unbelievable show to the Greek fans that have gathered that night to witness the legendary band on their so called “Epitaph World Tour”. Hill is a genuinely kind man that has absolutely no problem in answering in an immediate manner to all our questions (including the topic of K.K. Downing’s recent departure). “Is there anything left for you to achieve with the band”, we ask him. The answer comes straight and without any hesitation: “I don’t really think so...we are Priest”!
Interview: Sakis Nikas
Rockpages.gr: Well, Ian, here you are for the “Epitaph World Tour” but this is not the end for Judas Priest as you have stated...
Ian Hill: No, it’s not the end of Judas Priest…we’ve never intended to “kill” the band. We just need to slow down a little bit as we’ve touring and doing albums almost constantly for 40 years now. It really takes a large chunk of your life; so, we have to be…well…not choosey of where we will play in the future but how many shows we can do in a specific time. The European Festivals will always be a good option but we can’t do anymore the big touring thing…leave here, go to South America, then straight to USA, Japan, Australia…you know. Not that we don’t enjoy it; we love it! We love to travel, we love to visit places and do a little bit of sightseeing, especially when we have a day off. Bear in mind that we’ve been doing this for 40 years. After 6 months not being on the road, you get a little bit itchy because you need to be on stage again (laughs)! But, unfortunately, you don’t get any younger. Of course, we will continue to record as well…we have already written an album’s worth of material. Three songs are properly recorded and roughly mixed. I think that the record company might put out something, just a bit of something so as to let the fans know of what’s coming along. It’s gonna be a great album and it’s gonna carry on from where “Angel of Retribution” left off. We got “Nostradamus” out of our system and now we are heading towards classic Priest metal….the screams, the fast, the slow and the heavy! A little bit of everything. A big “thank you” for all that we are doing goes out to the fans.
Rockpages.gr: How does it feel to be reaching the end of your career? I mean, not only as a musician but as a person...
Ian Hill: It’s gonna be very sad, I suppose…luckily we are in the middle of a long tour and we are taking it from gig to gigreally. We will worry about it when the last show comes.
Rockpages.gr: I suppose you will get emotional on your last show?
Ian Hill: Quite possibly…well, the thing is that it won’t be the last show…I am talking about this tour.
Rockpages.gr: You have also a new member in the band...Richie Faulkner.
Ian Hill: Yes, we do.
Rockpages.gr: How important is his contribution to Judas Priest in regards with the live show?
Ian Hill: Richie is great, as you will see tonight. He is a great talent, a great guitarist, a great bloke and a great performer on stage. If we wouldn’t have found him, it would have been a struggle for us really. He came along and we couldn’t be luckier.
Rockpages.gr: Was it awkward for the band and you personally to be performing without K.K.?
Ian Hill: Not really! I mean…Ken decided to retire; he’s having trouble with his wrist; I think that was probably the main reason. We gave him a lot of time to change his mind…I tried to persuade him to change his mind but he seemed adamant…he wanted to retire. We had to move on as a band. Richie was a gift to us and being a Priest fan himself, he knew almost all the songs that we were planning for this tour. The important thing is that Richie has kept the essence of what Ken was doing…with his lead breaks, his solos…although, he still leaves his own stamp in the music.
Rockpages.gr: How does it feel to be the only original member?
Ian Hill: (laughs) Oh yeah…(laughs)
Rockpages.gr: Is it 1970…? Early 1970?
Ian Hill: 1969 really…that was when we started.
Rockpages.gr: That makes you now something like a father figure to the other guys…
Ian Hill: (laughs) No! Well, maybe for Scott (Travis) and Richie. They are the young ones. But, the rest of us have been together for so many years…Glenn, Rob and myself…we are grateful to have had the luck to enjoy a good life together and continue in one way or another.
Rockpages.gr: Why don’t you get to compose more songs for Judas Priest?
Ian Hill: Well, Ken, Glenn and Rob had formed a great writing team. I am perfectly happy to get along with it. And how can you argue with all those great songs that Priest had delivered through the years (laughs)?
Rockpages.gr: Ian, when will we see playing in the very front of the stage? I mean all these years you are standing by the drum kit.
Ian Hill: Maybe in the last show I will make a surprise step forward (laughs)!
Rockpages.gr: Ian, after all these years is there anything left that you haven’t achieved?
Ian Hill: I think that we have achieved everything that we’d set out to achieve…I don’t really think so…we are Priest, you know! I am sure that none of the other guys would have thought back in the day that we will still be doing that after 40 years. We even got a Grammy award which was nice.
Rockpages.gr: Flash forward 20 years from now…you are sitting on the porch and a kid with a metal t-shirt stops by and asks: “Mr. Hill, which is the quintessential Judas Priest record that I should listen to? Which is the cornerstone record of your career”?
Ian Hill: Oh, the cornerstone record…it’s probably the first one.
Rockpages.gr: Really?
Ian Hill: Yeah, I mean…it wasn’t well recorded; actually it sounded fucking awful (laughs)! But, after all these years of working hard and trying to make it…one day you go into a record store and you see your record on the shelves…it was the time when “Rocka Rolla” was among all my favorite records…Cream, The Stones, Animals, The Beatles…all those great bands. When I saw our album in the record store, I instantly knew that we have arrived! But, I guess that every band considers their debut as a really important first step on the ladder. Then, it’s up to you to improve or blow it! Fortunately, we were able to improve and we kept building our sound from album to album.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
I COULD NOT FIND THE INTERVIEW.
HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote:
It’s gonna be a great album and it’s gonna carry on from where “Angel of Retribution” left off. We got “Nostradamus” out of our system and now we are heading towards classic Priest metal….the screams, the fast, the slow and the heavy! A little bit of everything. A big “thank you” for all that we are doing goes out to the fans.
HELL YEAH!!!
Thanks for the link Rockpages - that was a great interview!!
Rockpages wrote:
Hey guys,
Ian Hill talked a week ago to Greece's Rockpages Web Magazine about the band's new written material and K.K. Downing's recent departure...here's the link of that very interesting interview: http://www.rockpages.gr/detailspage.aspx?id=5854&type=1&lang=EN
[Nupe The Ripper] Thursday, July 14, 2011 5:55:30 PM
My list changes every now and then, but here's the current one, with ratings to show what exactly is the difference between the albums to me:
1. Screaming for Vengeance (10/10)
2. Defenders of the Faith (10/10)
3. Stained Class (9½/10)
4. British Steel (9/10)
5. Sad Wings of Destiny (9/10)
6. Killing Machine (8½/10)
7. Ram It Down (8/10)
8. Turbo (8/10)
9. Sin After Sin (8/10)
10. Painkiller (7½/10)
11. Angel of Retribution (7½/10)
12. Nostradamus (7/10)
13. Point of Entry (6½/10)
14. Rocka Rolla (6/10)
15. Jugulator (4/10)
16. Demolition (2/10)
You might wonder why I positioned Painkiller, a record almost every freaking Priest fan seems to love, behind two of the more hated albums, Turbo and RID. Well, here's an explanation. When I first started to listen to heavy metal more seriously, i.e. started looking for Judas Priest, Saxon, Accept etc. , I liked the faster-tempo songs, so obviously Painkiller and the more recent Saxon albums. But over the years I've more and more liked the more melodic, classic metal songs, and nowadays Painkiller gets fewer spins in my CD player than many other Priest albums. Oh yeas, I can find some melody in Turbo and Ram It Down, even if most hate them. I 'm not saying that I dislike Painkiller; I like all the albums with Rob, but there's just huge differences on how much I listen to them, and often the older albums find their way in my CD player or turntable, rather than Painkiller, AoR or Nostradamus, not even counting the Ripper-era albums.
Hey, everyone's entitled to an opinion. If someone says that Demolition is the best thing ever, I won't start arguing. It's just another opinion.
[Nupe The Ripper] Monday, July 04, 2011 4:58:59 PM
Well I decided to get it because I haven't been fortunate enough to live back in the day when those singles were issued, and instead of going up and down different record stores to find them on vinyl, I prefer getting one nice box. Won't cost any more than buying all of them separatedly, and at least in this way the band gets a little out of it, unlike with buying used vinyls. I'm a bit of a collector so I wanted to get all of those b-sides never before put on CD. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Monday, July 04, 2011 4:48:40 PM) Edited at: Monday, July 04, 2011 5:01:23 PM
[Nupe The Ripper] Sunday, July 03, 2011 4:32:15 PM
Yeah, saw that question as well. "Curse of the nation" doesn't sound like the correct answer either. Personally I think it sounds something like "assasination".
Really? It certainly doesn't sound like it. I asked KK the same question as KK Danny did a few months ago (via his Q & A thing on his website), and he said something completely different, especially in regards to the first one (although he does state that he is not 100% sure).
I'm not 100% sure of it, but the Fuel of the Furnace special on KK's Steel Mill points out that the words are "desegregation" during the first chorus and "is this obligation" in the second chorus.
[Nupe The Ripper] Sunday, July 03, 2011 3:57:41 PM
I'm not 100% sure of it, but the Fuel of the Furnace special on KK's Steel Mill points out that the words are "desegregation" during the first chorus and "is this obligation" in the second chorus.
[Nupe The Ripper] Friday, July 01, 2011 6:55:25 AM
Well at the moment you should listen to Turbo and Ram It Down back-to-back and there's your Twin Turbos...
Until the band releases the remaining Turbo sessions tracks and the original 1985 demos for a few Ram It Down tracks, we can't get anything near the original Twin Turbos idea.
I think I better run for cover . . .
Has anyone tried to re-assemble the Twin Turbos double album they were gonna put out but the record company wouldn't let them - is it better?
K2M wrote:
Turbo is a Good record. It has the energy derived from turbos. It is the Lover like no other.
[Nupe The Ripper] Friday, July 01, 2011 6:49:08 AM
Well yeah, with 250 000 illegal downloads, and with the average price of a CD being around 15 to 25 dollars, the total loss would be about four to five million dollars.
But then you have to remember how much of the CD's price goes to the band itself. With a major label, such as Sony which is Priest's label at the moment, even the biggest bands would be lucky to get ten percent of the profits. The rest goest to the label (about half), management, marketing and other costs, not to mention the reseller's own profit margin. So all in all the band itself has lost about three to five hundred thousand dollars - it's still a big sum, but nothing as near what the total sales price would be. So when record companies and copyright organizations speak loudly that "illegal downloading makes the artists lose money", they're lying quite much in that as they're only worrying about their own profits. Touring and merchandising is what really gives the bands a lot of profit these days.
That is not to say that I condone illegal downloading myself. I've downloaded many bands myself, including Priest, but I've always bought the albums afterwards. I still wan't to give the artist something from making such great music, even when it's just ten percent of the actual purchase price.
WHO KNOWS MAYBE HE JUST HAD ENOUGH LIKE I SAID BEFORE I HEARD THERE WERE APPROXIMATLY 250000 ILEGAL METAL BETRAYER DOWNLOADS WITH THE LAST JUDAS PRIEST STUDIO ALBUM ACORDING TO MY CALCULATIONS I NEARLY FAILED BASIC MATH SO YOU MIGHT WANT TO RECALCULATE THEY WERE RIPED OFF 4 MILLION DOLLARS HOOOOLLLLLYYYYY FUUC????????????????????? CAN YOU IMAGINE .AND I HEARD BANDS DONT MAKE MONEY ANYMORE WITH NEW ALBUMS THE PRESSURE OF ALL THAT MONEY INVESTED TIED UP IN A NEW ALBUM AND WORRIED CONSTANTLY ABOUT LOOSING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.AT HIS AGE HE SHOULD HAVE A PEACEFULL MIND AND NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT TOOOTTTAAALLLL FUUUCCCC???ENNNNNNNN BUULLLLLLLSSSHHIIIIITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT WHO KNOWS MAYBE HE JUST SAID FUC?? THIS I DONT NEED THIS PRESSURE I HAVE MY GOLF COARSE.
KK IF YOU ARE OUT THERE
US DEEEEFFFFEEEENNNNDDDEEERRRRSSSS OF THE FAITH ARE GONNA PUT A END TO THAT TOTAL FUC?EN BULLSHI?
WE DISPISE IT
THEY ( METAL BETRAYERS)( ILLEGAL DOWNLOADERS) ARE OUR ENEMY WHO WE DISPISE WHO WE FIGHT AGAINST TO KEEP THE METAL ALIVE
NOW COME BACK TO PRIEST
WITH RICHIE
A 3 AXE ATTTTTAAAACCCCKKKKKKKK Edited at: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 9:16:24 PM Edited at: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 9:33:27 PM
[Nupe The Ripper] Monday, June 20, 2011 3:39:14 PM
The Ripper Years are quite modern-sounding compared to the classic Priest albums. They sound quite trashy, and Demolition even has a few industrial metal influences in it, lol. I don't like the more modern sound (if I did I'd be listening to Metallica) and quality-wise they're pretty much crap; they're really missing the songwriting ability of Rob. And, of course Tim uses a slightly lower range than what Rob has ever had so hat also makes it feel different.
Try before you buy, if you're asking me.
Oh, and my reply to this topic is pretty obvious. I've never ever gotten into Maiden, there's just something in their sound that I don't like. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by badactress from Monday, June 20, 2011 2:31:23 PM)
badactress wrote:
Love them both, but Priest is definitely the more challenging and intelligent musically of the two. Maiden are purely bombastic and chest beating one dimensional metal. Which is great! However Painkiller blows every other band away on that front, and then Priest will hit you with a crushing ballad that tears at your heartstrings.. or they'll do something crazy and uplifting that just fills you with joy. Haha ok I'm going to stop before I get carried away! I vote Priest! :)
You know what though.. I've never heard a single song.. not even one note from anything that they did with Ripper. If anyone is still reading my ramling.. Are "the ripper years" worth trying? Do they come close to classic priest? I just can't imagine Priest without Rob. My ears close up at the thought of it!!
[Nupe The Ripper] Tuesday, June 14, 2011 6:40:12 PM
Or as Rob put it in the Tampere interview: "We don't visit countries that are a little difficult to access anymore...but for example Finland is quite near England, we'd love to play again in Finland" -- "...festivals are great, we'll probably still play in festivals in Europe".
We would like to clarify a situation that seems to be confusing a few people out there.
When we issued our press release to announce the farewell tour - we stated that it was the last major world tour for Judas Priest - nothing has changed - we didn't say it was the end of the band or that we were going to retire or the band was going to break up........... Just that it would be the last major world tour we would be doing which is still the case.
We have plans for a new album (which we have already announced in an earlier press release) plus possible future releases and we would still consider doing the odd live show - if it is something special or for a great cause - but no more world tours.
In other words. No more world tours, just limited engagements in festivals and perhaps some lightweight touring, but no more two year long world tours.
acolyte55 wrote:
i dont get the concept? can someone dumb it down for me ? lol
[Nupe The Ripper] Sunday, June 12, 2011 7:40:15 AM
The weather was beatiful, sunny and not a single cloud in sight - and hot on Finnish standards, around 26 degrees Celsius! I had my sister with me, mainly because she rarely goes out and wanted to experience at least one festival this year (the festival where she usually went in the summers doesn't exist anymore). I was on Glenn's side, about 15 meters from the stage, so unfortunately I didn't get to see Richie as much as I wanted to, and the pics I took (or more like my sister took) didn't come out so good. But here's an individual review of each member of the band (+audience). Setlist was identical to previous shows, but with Living After Midnight being played as an extra encore. Lots of smoke, fire and flames, but not much lasers.
The entrance was great, they first put out Battle Hymn through the speakers, after which Glenn and Richie started playing Rapid Fire, still behind the Epitaph curtain, and as soon as Rob sang "pounding the world..." the curtain was ripped down and the show kicked off!
Rob:
He was absolutely on fire. Some of the best vocals he has sung during the 2000s. Of course my only previous concert was the 2008 tour start where his voice was absolutely shot and my seat was quite far from the stage, which might affect my review a bit. But he was still top notch yesterday! "But she won't find a newAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRR RRRRRRRRRRRR!" I really thought the PA (and my ear drums!) couldn't take it much longer! Stage banter was pretty much the obligatory stuff we can hear from the Netherlands and Sweden concerts, with "Finland" being added in there every now and then, of course. But he moved quite actively on the stage, so everyone got to see him properly.
Glenn:
Bloody hell, is this guy really 63 years old? He was jumping around like a teenager! You could easily see that he really enjoyed himself and how the audience responded. His guitar work was flawless, and every time he had the chance he was really active with the crowd. And on the stage too; like I wrote a bit earlier he literally jumped around the stage at times.
Richie:
He's really started to accustom himself with the band. Any sort of nervousness he had in Holland was gone, and more than once he and Glenn could smile at each other after they had both nailed the tricky sections of the songs. And his nearly two-minute solo during HBFL was simply awesome. Of course it was a little strange to see such a young guy among these 60-year olds, but Glenn really was correct when he said that no-one else could have been a better replacement to KK.
Ian:
Well what can you say? Stood in his place as usual, doing his job and swinging his bass around like a maniac. Nothing out of the ordinary, a solid performance like he has done the past 40 years.
Scott:
Much like Ian, he didn't get much of the limelight. But when he did, he really took the crowd as his own. This time he didn't lose his drumsticks like in Holland, haha. Although he nearly forgot to change to the rock version of Diamonds and Rust!
Audience:
Man we were crazy! Everyone was putting their hands in the air and shouting like maniacs! We sang some of the choruses so loudly that you could barely hear Rob at all! I'm usually a calm person, but the athmosphere was so great that I swung my arms and shouted so much that currently my shoulders hurt like hell and I can barely speak! But it was well worth it.
All in all it was a great gig and the athmosphere was just phenomenal - no wonder, considering that probably 70% of all band-related shirts I saw in the festival were Judas Priest-related. The band gave us everything they got and they seemed to have really enjoyed themselves, as did the crowd.
Here's some pics (taken on two cell phone cameras, low quality sorry)
[Nupe The Ripper] Friday, June 10, 2011 4:16:43 PM
Alright then, better only upload the FLAC files. Although a quick look at the frequency graph shows that the recording itself is already quite lossy (very little data beyond 13 kHz). But I prefer not to have any trouble so I'm only using FLAC this time.
[Nupe The Ripper] Friday, June 10, 2011 1:42:03 PM
A bootleg of the Tilburg show hit DIME a few hours ago. I'll add it on my site as soon as possible, so that you no longer have to listen to YT videos only! Edited at: Friday, June 10, 2011 1:42:25 PM
thats cool, except the acoustic D+R has run its course.
and its a farewell tour, close with YGATC? I thought the point of farewell was that we dont?
Nupe The Ripper wrote:
Thanks to Maniee and his friend over at the Quorum, we now know the setlist of the first gig of the Epitaph tour.
Rapid Fire
Metal Gods
Heading Out to the Highway
Judas Rising Starbreaker
Victim of Changes Never Satisfied
Diamonds and Rust (acoustic)
Prophecy
Night Crawler
Turbo Lover
Beyond the Realms of Death
The Sentinel Blood Red Skies
The Green Manalishi
Breaking the Law
Painkiller
The Hellion / Electric Eye
Hell Bent for Leather
You've Got Another Thing Comin'
[Nupe The Ripper] Tuesday, June 07, 2011 7:31:41 PM
Considering the amount of videos from the concert that have been upped to YouTube in the past few hours, I don't think it'll be long until someone uploads BRS!
HOLY SHIT! THANK YOU SO MUCH NUPE!! YOU ARE AWESOME! They sounded FANTASTIC! I am soooooooo excited now. I can't wait until they hit the States! I hope someone taped Blood Red Skies
Nupe The Ripper wrote:
Video from last night's concert:
F... yeah! Edited at: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 6:47:21 PM
[Nupe The Ripper] Tuesday, June 07, 2011 4:03:09 PM
Thanks to Maniee and his friend over at the Quorum, we now know the setlist of the first gig of the Epitaph tour.
Rapid Fire
Metal Gods
Heading Out to the Highway
Judas Rising Starbreaker
Victim of Changes Never Satisfied
Diamonds and Rust (acoustic)
Prophecy
Night Crawler
Turbo Lover
Beyond the Realms of Death
The Sentinel Blood Red Skies
The Green Manalishi
Breaking the Law
Painkiller
The Hellion / Electric Eye
Hell Bent for Leather
You've Got Another Thing Comin'
[Nupe The Ripper] Wednesday, May 25, 2011 11:16:57 PM
Holy crap, Priest on U.S. national TV (and a lot of others as well). I'm expecting to see a lot of new members on this site soon...
That solo by Richie was quite neat, but at the same time it felt a little too... modern. Maybe a little too fast. His stage performance looked quite, OK although he was given very little camera time. I'll still wait until June 11th, when I see the band on stage, before I give a full opinioin about him.
All five members of JUDAS PRIEST — Rob Halford, Glenn Tipton, Ian Hill, Scott Travis, and the band's latest addition, 31-year-old guitarist Richie Faulkner (LAUREN HARRIS, DIRTY DEEDS) — took part in a press conference this afternoon (Tuesday, May 24) at the Renaissance Hotel at Highland and Hollywood in Los Angeles to answer questions about the upcoming "Epitaph" U.S. tour and to formally introduce Faulkner. During the event, it was revealed that JUDAS PRIEST will release the "Single Cuts" CD-singles box set and the "Classic Albums Collection" later this year containing the following material:
1. "Single Cuts" CD-singles box set:
* The complete U.K. CBS/Columbia singles from 1977-2008 featuring all 7" and 12" tracks.
* All singles will carry original artwork.
* This box will only be available online and sold through the official JUDAS PRIEST web site.
* Fans can pre-order the box starting in June; the product will ship later in the summer.
2. The "Classic Albums Collection":
* Timed for the start of the U.S. tour
* Box set featuring all the albums from the classic lineup years, including first two Gull records
* Includes 17 albums (19 discs in total)
* All remastered albums with original artwork
Hopefully they'll release the complete singles and not just the lead tracks, because then we'd get a live version of Evil Fantasies, full version of Freewheel Burning (with extended intro) and a lot of other rarities!
I also wonder how much they had to pay to Gull for those first two albums...
[Nupe The Ripper] Tuesday, May 24, 2011 4:27:37 PM
Hot off the press (and the Q): US Tour Dates!
JUDAS PRIEST will embark on a U.S. tour in the fall with support from THIN LIZZY and BLACK LABEL SOCIETY. The trek will kick off on October 12 in San Antonio, Texas and conclude on November 18 in East Rutherford, New Jersey.
The complete list of dates (courtesy of Aniruddh "Andrew" Bansal of Metal Assault):
Oct. 12 - San Antonio, TX - AT&T Center
Oct. 14 - Corpus Christi, TX - Concrete Street Ampitheater
Oct. 15 - Houston, TX - Cynthia Woods Mitchell Pavilion
Oct. 16 - Dallas, TX - Allen Event Center
Oct. 18 - Tucson, AZ - Ava Ampitheater
Oct. 19 - San Diego, CA - Cricket Wireless Ampitheater
Oct. 21 - Phoenix, AZ - AZ State Fair
Oct. 22 - San Bernardino, CA - San Manuel Ampitheater
Oct. 23 - Las Vegas, NV - Hard Rock
Oct. 25 - Los Angeles, CA - Gibson Ampitheater
Oct. 26 - Oakland, CA - Oracle Arena
Oct. 29 - Seattle, WA - WaMu Theater
Oct. 30 - Vancouver, BC - Rogers Arena
Nov. 01 - Edmonton, AB - Shaw Conference Center
Nov. 02 - Calgary, AB - Scotiabank Saddledome
Nov. 04 - Salt Lake City, UT - Maverik Center
Nov. 05 - Denver, CO - 1st Bank Center
Nov. 12 - Chicago, IL - The Venue At Horeshoe Casino
Nov. 13 - Detroit, MI - Joe Louis Arena
Nov. 18 - East Rutherford, NJ - Izod Center
Gull Records owns all the rights to any recordings Priest made while they were under that label. That includes all studio albums, demos etc. but not the songs themselves. The copyright of those still reside with the writers (a reason why most of the Priest compilations use live versions of the older tracks to avoid having to pay licensing fees to Gull). Meanwhile, Gull can license those two albums however they please, which has led to the abundance of reissues and -packagings of them. In fact, because the band members and management wanted Metalogy to contain songs from every studio album, they had to license a couple of old tracks from Gull because no recordings of those songs recorded after Priest broke with Gull exist. Although why they didn't use a live version of Tyrant instead of the studio track on the compilation is a bit of a mystery...
Sorry for the misunderstanding, let me rephrase, replace own with controlled. To me, if someone has that much power and control over what you do, they "own" you. So, when I say "own", I mean that the record company controlled what Rob did as well as everything that Priest did. They had control over what Rob did, including his solo career if he stayed in Priest while doing it. He didn't want them to be able to dictate what his solo album would sound like or whether he could tour, etc., so he quit Priest to break the contract. It pisses me off that record labels have that much control over the artists, but they do. I don't mean that Priest and Rob don't own the rights to their own material, they do own them (except for the first two albums on Gull). But the record label decides what they can and can't do and what they must do to fulfill their contract. It is in that sense that the record company "owns" them, by dictating what they have to do to fulfill the terms of the contract and Priest really doesn't have a lot of say in it. As for Gull, I do believe that Gull actually owns the rights to those songs like you said and I do think they have to pay them to use them, but I'm not sure either. I always thought that they should re-record those two albums and then release them and screw Gull over, but I bet they can't if Gull actually owns the rights to those songs. (Quoting Message by Head banger from Monday, May 16, 2011 1:42:48 PM)
Head banger wrote:
Rob had to leave the band to release solo material, but I dont think that the record lable owned the work he did with the band. I could be wrong though.
HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote:
What I meant was, we'll see how involved with the album KK was when it comes out based on the writing credits. Seems to me he was very involved considering the album is almost finished according to Rob. I have a feeling this had more to do with the record company telling them that if the new album is released, they were required to tour that album for x amount of time. Then things snowballed from there.
Rob had stated many times that the record company "owned" whatever he wrote when he was in Priest, whether it was solo or with Priest. They controlled what he would do in his solo career and he wanted to get his own contract and not be bound to the Priest record label. That is why he said he had to leave Priest, in order to break that contract and be able to do what he wanted, which was the purpose of the solo career in the first place. Very sad that he had to do that. So I think the record label has screwed Priest since day one! It doesn't matter which label they are with either, all of them have caused problems.
I'm also holding out hope that KK will make a few appearances at selected shows. Afterall, how long can he resist the allure of the Sinful Gals??
\~AuntieB~/ wrote:
I cannot say if writing credits would factor in. Ken is intelligent enough to protect intellectual property. With him it would be more the perceived deception (and I know this from previous experience, which I will NOT discuss in this forum). The going behind his back to arrange auditions, etc. The only motive mgmt has in order to keep things moving following Epitaph. The band thinking, he's not onboard to tour after the album is released so we have to get on with it. There was another time in 'Priest history where they transitioned a player in the midst of a tour > album release > tour. He's known by most now as the best thing to happen to JP. Others know him only as Scott Travis. Still, finding out a replacement has been found is the proverbial kick in the gut! I'm sure, after reality sinks in, logic will prevail. They will remain friends. The band plays on. Perhaps a few appearances by Ken at selected venues (shrugs). All speculative, wishful thinking ... but very possible. I'm relatively certain ticket sales began with KK onboard for the entirety of Epitaph!
HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote:
Yes, that totally makes sense to me because he is definitely onboard in this interview. I'm not sure how the album fits in and I guess we won't know until it comes out, whether KK has writing credit and is playing on it or not? It seems like he must have been writing it with Rob and Glenn and now Rob says that the album is almost finished.... I think you are right about KK finding out that they were looking to replace him and that they intended to keep Priest going and maybe he just thought, well if they are going to replace me anyway, why not retire now? Of course, that's just my own ideas swirling around in my head. I don't know if there was a big blow out or not. Everyone in the band that has spoken, including KK, just seems very sad about the entire thing. They appear to still be friends and I really hope that is true.
But the main point here is that many people were claiming that the tickets to the Epitaph tour were sold under false pretenses, with the band knowing that KK had retired but chose to not release that info until April 20th, and this interview PROVES that is NOT THE CASE!
\~AuntieB~/ wrote:
After watching this video again, methinks, and this is pure speculation, that he'd made his mind up to retire following Epitaph. Likely was not onboard to tour in support of another album. Upon letting the band / mgmt know of this decision wheels were put in motion to look for another axeman to record the new album. Ken didn't know they were looking. Then he found out. IMO he was onboard to record the new album. Just not for subsequent touring.
HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote:
I posted this video before but didn't know the date it was from. It is from MARCH 10, 2011!! KK is talking about the upcoming Epitaph tour and is obviously ONBOARD for it!!! So what the hell happened between March 10 and April 20???? Seems to me KK didn't like how the writing of the new album was going and some management decisions, so he decided to leave the band sometime AFTER March 10th. So many of those tickets were not sold under false pretenses as we believed (unless KK isn't telling us here that he had already made up his mind to leave the band).
On K.K. Downing's statement that his departure from JUDAS PRIEST was brought on in part by "an ongoing breakdown in [the] working relationship between [him], elements of the band, and the band's management":
Halford: "Well, I'm sure you've been around a lot of bands in your life as a journalist and I'm sure you've heard a lot of stories about the creative differences that happen in a group, and you always overcome them. It's not easy being in a band; it's a very difficult, temperamental machine, because you're dealing with very emotional people, very talented people, and so you have your ups and your downs. I think that in the light of all of the excitement and the confusion over the last few weeks, a lot of the things have been kind of distorted out of the fact. I don't really know why K.K. said what he said in his press release. I think maybe K.K. himself was feeling very emotional and very kind of… I don't know… maybe retrospective about all of the things that have been going on in PRIEST for the last few years. . . If you go onto his web site today, he put up a new press release and he says, you know, he's had a great time and he's not feeling bitter, he's not feeling in any other way than feeling just very satisfied and complete that he's done all the things that he wants to do. And I think that's great. I think K.K.'s really answered a lot of questions for a lot of people. But I think it was unfair to single out the bandmembers and I think it was unfair to single out management as the reason why he left, because it was more than that. And so there you go. We're all separate, individual people that all have lives to live and all have different needs and choices to be made, and this is the one that K.K.'s gone with. And we love him dearly; he'll always be in the spirit of JUDAS PRIEST. We wish things were different, but they're not, so we have to look forward and be positive and be excited about the shows that we're gonna do and a great new guitar player, Richie. JUDAS PRIEST is not just one person, JUDAS PRIEST is the whole experience, and we've always felt that way. Even when I was away from the band, JUDAS PRIEST carried on. So this is what we're gonna do — we're gonna be strong and we're gonna put on some powerful shows and we're gonna celebrate and have some great metal experiences together again."
On why K.K. couldn't wait until after the "Epitaph" tour to leave the band:
Halford: "It's a great question. I can't answer it. You have to get in touch with K.K. and ask him that question, 'cause I can't answer it. I think we've tried to be as honest and as straightforward as we can be on both sides of the discussion, and it is very emotional. I mean, you could just as easily [have asked] that same question — which you may have done — when I was away from the band, and Ripper, my good friend Ripper, was holding the mic for me. You just have to carry on. I think more than anything, it's just kind of difficult, 'cause it's a farewell tour. Why is it happening now? Well, you've got no control over life, have you? [Laughs] You can't control life and these things happen. So you just have to accept them and see what your options are. So that's the way it is. Of course, it will never be the same without K.K., like I'm sure a lot of people said it was never the same without me. But you can't just grind to a halt, you can't just stop everything — that would be ridiculous. We have obligations to our fans and to promoters and to everybody else, and to our record company, and we wanna fulfill them and be professional and do the right thing, which is what I think we are doing."
On how he feels personally about K.K.'s departure from the band:
Halford: "I just feel very sad that this whole episode has taken place at the time that it has. I think that we're all dealing with it differently. I love Ken like a brother; we've been in each other's lives for over 40 years. And we're all still good friends; that's the important thing. It doesn't matter about the breakdown in the communication or the creative differences; that's just part of being in a band. The friendship and the caring for each other, that doesn't go away. It should never go away. Because we've been through too much together and you can't let differences of opinion over different incidents and different moments, you can't let that affect your long-term-standing relationship, business-wise and personal-wise, you can't let that get destroyed; that would be a terrible thing to do. So you just respect each other, you respect each other's choices and you respect each other's decisions. And I'm sure that at some point K.K. will probably want to be a little bit more open about his reasons for departing PRIEST; that's entirely up to K.K. We've made it clear that we're not speaking for K.K.; we can only speak for ourselves and what we need to do. So there you go — that's about as much as we can really offer to the press and to our fans at this point."
[Nupe The Ripper] Wednesday, May 11, 2011 8:49:44 AM
I haven't studied guitar playing at all. When I started last December, I just googled for Judas Priest tabs (as well as looked though this sites tab section) and started playing. My friend who was played a guitar for like ten years has taught me a little bit about how to improve my finger dexterity, but nothing else. When I study a new song, I just look at the tabs from the 'net and listen to the song inquestion to get the rhythm correct. Then I'll just go through one structure over and over again until I can play it at least with the same tempo as the original. Then I'll move on to the next part, until I get the whole song nailed.
Mind you though, I can't play any solos at all, as my fingers aren't that fast yet.
I haven't posted about KK's departure in more than two weeks. Why? Because the discussion is over for me. KK out: fine, Richie in: fine. KK and the band have probably thought about this for months, so there ain't no way he's going to make a surprise return. A reason that causes someone to retire from his very own band after forty years is not something he'll forget about in a couple of weeks and say "hey guys, mind if I join back?". Of course I, like every other fan, have that little hope that one day he'd come back, but that's something I know to be as likely as winning millions in a national lottery. Unlike some I'm not pointing out any fingers to whom should be held responsible for this turn of events: maybe it was the management, maybe they did argue about Nostradamus or money or some other shit, or maybe KK just doesn't want to do it anymore. But who the fuck knows? Knowing the true reason wouldn't make the situation any better than it is now.
Yeah, it could have been handled better and they could have announced the thing earlier, but I certainly wouldn't have wanted to hear in February just after I bought the tickets that "yeah so KK ain't coming along and we might not tour at all because we still aren't sure about a replacement, sorry for the inconvenience and leaving you in doubt for the next few months". At least now we know what the band is going to do, even if it was slapped on our faces. Yeah, it sucks with the farewell tour and all, but it's not the end of the world. There's still four old members you can say goodbye to, and KK is so exceptionally easy to contact that you can easily say your goodbye to him as well. Maybe you can't give him a goodbye in a concert but the idea is still the same, it might lack some feeling but that's life, it's not good all the time.
Those who think that the band's over for them when one member is replaced, especially when it's a key member, fine. Move on, listen to the old albums and watch the old DVDs, don't buy the new album and don't buy tickets for the new tour. But don't start bitching about it to us who still wan't to support the band. And especially don't say that everything Priest will do in the future will be crap if you haven't yet heard a single song where Richie plays with Priest. Who knows, it might turn a lot better than people are expecting.
Believe me I was just as much shocked about the news as everyone else, in fact I mourned all the way through 20th April when I heard this. KK was probably my most favourite member of the band and I still like him, largely due to the fact that he's so positive, easy to contact, and has kept his feet on the ground. Not saying that the other members are the opposite, but there's a little percent of something in KK that makes him my favorite slightly more than other members. I'm still supporting both the band and KK, there's no way even a serious matter like this would change that. If life gives you lemons, eat them of at least make some fucking juice out of them, don't just throw them away and let them rot.
I'm sure that many will disagree with the above text. But hey, everyone's entitled to opinion, and I don't think I attacked anyone in my post. In fact I think that I'll ignore this thread just to make sure I don't start arguing with someone, because there is not one correct opinion about this one.
"Dinosaur Band". Doesn't actually sound that pointless after giving it a thought. I mean, Priest and their management haven't really woken up to this new Internet-era, where people want information about their favourite subjects in an instant. Just look at this website. Where do you find some of the recent releases, like Live Vengeance '82 (released bloody five years ago!), A Touch of Evil: Live or British Steel 30th Anniversary on this site? Discography and DVD library? Nuh-uh, you'll actually have to look through the News and Press Releases sections to find out about them! Ok, so you might notice the latter two of them on the sidebar, but still not listing at least A Touch of Evil as part of their official discography is something that I just don't understand. And what's the point of having a separate section for "The Ripper Years"? It's nothing more than just the cover photos for their 1997-2002 releases!
Although it could be worse, I mean I just visited Van Halen's official site today: there's practically no info about the band, and the latest news item was the band wishing a good 2010 to everyone...
Having been very active with bootlegs for the past few months, I couldn't agree more with Maple Syrup about the unreleased material. I mean, there's a load of pro-shot performances that simply don't have a proper substitute in official releases: Tokyo 1978, Dortmund 1983, Detroit 1990, Rock in Rio 1991 just to name a few. I'm not even going to list the amount of professionally-recorded audio they've done over the years: there's a load of radio broadcast bootlegs from just about every tour they've done after 1977. Although KK did say that they had some "extra footage" they might release when I asked about it...
[Nupe The Ripper] Thursday, May 05, 2011 10:26:03 AM
I'm actually listening to the original 1986 Turbo vinyl right at this moment.
It's a party album. Great when you have friends over at your house and know that they don't really care for typical heavy metal. It might not be so hard-edged than other Priest albums, but there's Priest's greatest strength as well: they sound very different on each album. Definitely not the worst that Priest has put out over the years.
Well here's a short tutorial on how to add pictures here.
First off you need to click on the add/edit image button on the toolbar (my menus are in Finnish but you'll get the hang of it without understanding the text):
After you click on it a menu like this should appear:
There's a whole lot of options to edit the image, but if you're already fine with it then just paste the image address to the Address option, click "OK" and you're all set!
[Nupe The Ripper] Saturday, April 30, 2011 5:38:53 PM
I actually took out the DVD and looked for when exactly he took the shirt off. Unfortunately he's barechested only during Hell Bent for Leather, here's another still I took off it:
And another one from 1981 that I found on Imageshack:
I have that DVD, and yes he's barechested for the last couple of songs. Showing off those muscles and waxed chest.
Nupe The Ripper wrote:
Well, he does perform shirtless on the Live in London DVD, and that pic you've got there could very well be a still photo from it. Can't remember which song it was, but it was near the end, so probably United or Living After Midnight. (Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Saturday, April 30, 2011 4:18:02 PM)
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
I've collected these pics from the Internet over the years, and from tons of places. All you have to do is look around and you just might find something that's drool-inducing.
Pictures of shirtless KK are, believe it of not, very hard to find. Methinks he is more shy about being shirtless than Glenn.
velvet_liselle wrote:
Thanks, Vaillant.
So my "theory" about being played is kind of correct, and I'm completely normal to react the way I do.
Shirtless Glenn is absolutely delicious <mrrrrr>
Where do you take all these pics from?
Can I get shirtless KK too?
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Great questions! I like to think of it this way: we may be moved to insanity through their music and solos, but since they are the masters of their music, they are even more moved into insanity, borderline ecstasy. The result comes out in the way they show it (through their face and their body movements) and in the way they play their guitars...with alot of love. It's enough to make their guitars scream and shout. It makes us gals wish we were the guitars...
Now then...here's a shirtless Glenn for your sinful dreams, liselle. Enjoy!
velvet_liselle wrote:
Wow.
What is it with guitarists that they usually provoke so much lust in women? Is it something about playing the guitar in a virtuoso way that we start to imagine what such a guy can do with a woman's body? Could they play us as masterfully as their guitars?
My God, such thoughts really turn me on. Imagining Glenn or KK (I wouldnt refuse him either) doing this kind of stuff to me... gets me all too excited <an icon wiht a bucket of cold water on my head now>
Btw, does anybody know why Glenn deosn't appear shirltless anymore? KK does show a bit more of himself on those hot leather vests (it's such a pity he gave up:((( )
[Nupe The Ripper] Saturday, April 30, 2011 5:10:29 PM
Well, he does perform shirtless on the Live in London DVD, and that pic you've got there could very well be a still photo from it. Can't remember which song it was, but it was near the end, so probably United or Living After Midnight. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Saturday, April 30, 2011 4:18:02 PM)
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
I've collected these pics from the Internet over the years, and from tons of places. All you have to do is look around and you just might find something that's drool-inducing.
Pictures of shirtless KK are, believe it of not, very hard to find. Methinks he is more shy about being shirtless than Glenn.
velvet_liselle wrote:
Thanks, Vaillant.
So my "theory" about being played is kind of correct, and I'm completely normal to react the way I do.
Shirtless Glenn is absolutely delicious <mrrrrr>
Where do you take all these pics from?
Can I get shirtless KK too?
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Great questions! I like to think of it this way: we may be moved to insanity through their music and solos, but since they are the masters of their music, they are even more moved into insanity, borderline ecstasy. The result comes out in the way they show it (through their face and their body movements) and in the way they play their guitars...with alot of love. It's enough to make their guitars scream and shout. It makes us gals wish we were the guitars...
Now then...here's a shirtless Glenn for your sinful dreams, liselle. Enjoy!
velvet_liselle wrote:
Wow.
What is it with guitarists that they usually provoke so much lust in women? Is it something about playing the guitar in a virtuoso way that we start to imagine what such a guy can do with a woman's body? Could they play us as masterfully as their guitars?
My God, such thoughts really turn me on. Imagining Glenn or KK (I wouldnt refuse him either) doing this kind of stuff to me... gets me all too excited <an icon wiht a bucket of cold water on my head now>
Btw, does anybody know why Glenn deosn't appear shirltless anymore? KK does show a bit more of himself on those hot leather vests (it's such a pity he gave up:((( )
One I believe you've posted before MS. The early days ... daze What were they thinkin'? I know. Let's go roller skating! Someone else can take it from here \m/ Cheers!
[Nupe The Ripper] Tuesday, April 26, 2011 3:08:36 AM
Well, I thought that the dream was weird enough that I'd like to tell about it to others as well. But if people just decide to ignore this thread, I'm fine with that as well.
[Nupe The Ripper] Monday, April 25, 2011 5:07:27 PM
Last night, I had a weird dream. It took place in a fairly strange rendition of Helsinki. I was going to school, and just missed a strange type of a tram - strange in that instead of going on the ground, the tracks we're laid out on the sides of the buildings...
Anyway, I then went inside a cafe that was next to the tram stop. I went in there to see if the timetables for the tram line were there. They weren't, but instead there was a huge poster advertising Judas Priest's Epitaph tour! But there were a few strange things about it. First off, it'd be really strange if JP was advertised so much in Finland - unfortunately, for some reason the band isn't as popular here as other metal bands are. Secondly, there were multiple tour dates on the poster, as if they would have more than just one concert here (the only time Priest has been here more than once on a single tour was on the Retribution tour, with three gigs). And thirdly, a couple of the band members looked weird. I could recognize Glenn, Ian and Scott easily, but the other guitarist was a complete stranger (I guess it was my mind's rendition of Richie Faulkner, although it only remotely looked like him). And the vocalist, who was pictured much bigger than the others and standing away from them, was sort of a weird hybrid of Rob and Ripper - imagine a bald Ripper Owens with Rob's sunglasses and you're pretty close. The dream went on from that but that was the most interesting part. I was really like "WTF?" the next morning.
[Nupe The Ripper] Friday, April 22, 2011 9:23:38 AM
Props to KK for making an announcement. Although I'm still shocked about this, at least we now (roughly) know the reason and know that KK is OK with his health.
[Nupe The Ripper] Friday, April 22, 2011 9:19:51 AM
I probably still would have bought the ticket even if this were announced already in December (as Rob's interview pointed out, KK made his decision around Christmas time). Maybe I wouldn't have bought the ticket immediately after it was possible to do so, but I still would want to see Rob, Glenn, Ian and Scott.
I will go, if they decide to come this way. its 80%. better than nothing
Nupe The Ripper wrote:
Yeah, I'm still going. Partly because I already bought the ticket in February, and partly because it's still 4/5 Priest, although it's not going to be same, of course.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Now then. Time for some Metal Blah.
In light of the recent bad news, the big question now is:
Who will go see Judas Priest (without KK) perform live in their last ever world tour? Would anyone be willing to? As crappy as this question sounds, apparently the rest of the band wants to go on ahead with "all guns blazing" and with the new guy in tow. At least one thing is certain--a new album will come out next year. Here's hoping that KK helped in creating at least some of it (one SONG, at least).
Personally, I will go see them, at least to say goodbye to Glenn, Rob, Ian, and Scott, and give the new guy a chance. At least he won't be a permanent fixture, considering the rest of the band will be done soon. Still...this all blows. An explanation is needed, and fast.
[Nupe The Ripper] Thursday, April 21, 2011 3:06:10 AM
Yeah, I'm still going. Partly because I already bought the ticket in February, and partly because it's still 4/5 Priest, although it's not going to be same, of course.
In light of the recent bad news, the big question now is:
Who will go see Judas Priest (without KK) perform live in their last ever world tour? Would anyone be willing to? As crappy as this question sounds, apparently the rest of the band wants to go on ahead with "all guns blazing" and with the new guy in tow. At least one thing is certain--a new album will come out next year. Here's hoping that KK helped in creating at least some of it (one SONG, at least).
Personally, I will go see them, at least to say goodbye to Glenn, Rob, Ian, and Scott, and give the new guy a chance. At least he won't be a permanent fixture, considering the rest of the band will be done soon. Still...this all blows. An explanation is needed, and fast.
KK was and still is probably my favorite member in the band (of course they're all great, but I like KK even more), so it would be an understatement to say that I'm shocked. I just can't comprehend it all right now, I need some time to accept this as the sad thruth.
Moreover, like others have said, I can't think of any other reason but health issues. I seriously hope that he'll get through whatever it is. Whatever the reason it must've been really sudden, because nothing referring to this could be seen from his site's latest updates a couple of weeks ago.
I'm still going to see the show next June, but I'm not so excited about it anymore. Just like the Ripper Years feel strange to me, I'm feeling even stranger if KK is not around...
[Nupe The Ripper] Sunday, April 17, 2011 11:19:10 AM
Yeah, I wasn't saying that Sabbath weren't crucial in the development of metal music, just said that the weren't the only one.
Nvm, I'll stick my Paranoid vinyl in the stereo and hear the masters of metal.
[Nupe The Ripper] Saturday, April 16, 2011 7:03:22 PM
While I usually try to avoid arguments over the internet (as I like being a diplomatic person, who supports neither side of some issues), I'd also like to add my two cents here. I'm particularly irritated by someone saying that Sabbath "started it all" and were "creators of metal". Yes, Sabbath was definitely one of the heaviest, if not the heaviest band in '70-'71, with a large credit going to Iommi's downtuned guitar.
But there were also others that put out similarly heavy stuff in the same era, like Deep Purple or Uriah Heep. While most, including me, would nowadays agree that they're both more hard rock than metal (with Heep more on the progressive side), imagine being in 1970 and start playing In Rock or Very 'eavy, Very 'umble. Both have blistering first tracks in Speed King and Gypsy, and the whole Purple album is very heavy indeed (can't say the same for Heep's first effort: although the US version did have Bird of Prey in it as well, overall the songs are less heavier). Come '71, Sabbath would already have three very heavy albums under it's belt, while the title tracks to Purple's Fireball and Heep's Look at Yourself (Salisbury, released earlier that year was more progressive and only Bird of Prey and Time to Live could be considered "heavy") were blisteringly heavy at the time. After that, more and more heavy bands started to pop up, with the Priest lurking at the back as well...
Very,very well said Jimmy. What you've said is ABSOLUTELY 100% correct. Everything you've posted here is "true". Also he should of created a Dio's Sabbath thread only because of his disliking for early Sabbath. He has every right to dislike the Ozzy years but creating a thread named The Creators of Metal and leaving out the Ozzy years is misleading. On another note,I absolutely can't stand the album 'The Devil You Know",it spanks of poor song writting. A very big letdown for myself when I heard the LP and knew I wasn't going to buy it. I don't even like one song on it.
jimmyjames wrote:
Well I must say that I don't know why you've created this thread then. Why didn't you just start a Ronnie James Dio thread and talk about his music in that? You've literally called the thread The Creators Of Metal - Black Sabbath and you are avoiding the line up of the band that actually did what you are talking about. The RJD era of Sabbath did not create metal. As I said before, by the time Ronnie joined the band in 1979 or 80 metal was already going strong. Priest had released five or six albums, Maiden had just begun, UFO had been going for ages, AC/DC were at their peak, The Scorpions had a few albums out, the list goes on. The albums that created metal were the first three Sabbath albums, self titled, Paranoid and Master Of Reality in 1970 and 71. Honestly, Black Sabbath is only Black Sabbath with Ozzy. With Dio the name is the same but the band and the music is completely different. Awesome heavy metal music but it's a completely different sound to the original Sabbath that created metal. I think the band realised this when they got back together with Dio and changed the name to Heaven And Hell. They understood that if they called it Black Sabbath people would be expecting to hear War Pigs, Sweet Leaf and Paranoid etc, because that's what Sabbath is.
[Nupe The Ripper] Saturday, April 16, 2011 12:01:10 PM
The more cores you have in the processor, the easier it is to run multiple programs at once, as each core is responsible for a specific program only. For the operating system, I'd suggest that you stick with XP Pro if you're only going to get a dual-core processor, as any of the features added by Win7 are rather heavy on the processor. But if you get a quad core, Win7 is my suggestion, especially if you don't play a lot of games (as most of the older games have difficulties running with Win7).
When exploring the different types of processors available, I was told that for my needs a dual core is really all I need and that a quad core would be overkill as I don't really do any on-line gaming. Can you tell me what the benefit of going quad over dual is for me? Also, these barebone kits don't come with an OS, so I'm debating between sticking with XP Pro and Windows 7. What do you suggest?
J.D., Don't feel like your alone, all this is a lot easier than it appears (or so it seems). You just need to decide on what it is you want from your system, investigate what will give it to you and let everything else fall into place.
guidogodoy wrote:
You want a dual core in the age of hexa cores?
Go quad core at least, Ron. You'll be obsolete out of the box with a dual.
Now who wants a webcam! LOL!
ron h wrote:
lol I don't have one either. I have a 19" flatscreen without a built in camera and it's less than a year old. Had a webcam many years ago. Looking at barebone kits now to built a new PC. Learning as I go, there's a lot of info out there to wrap my wee lil mind around. I DO know I want a dual core processor a lot more memory than I have now. Taking on a new challenge!!
guidogodoy wrote:
HAAA! Can't be all that difficult. I bet I could walk you through any software / driver installation typing with my toes.
Funny you should say the "no camera" bit. I just gave one of my old ones to a buddy with the same problem. No WEBCAM though? Not even built into the computer itself? What kind of dinosaur are you typing on, man? Even Hellrider has a webcam. Like my old digital cameras, you can't even give them away. I have a number of those too. Just say the word and I'll make a charitable contribution. Too bad I already got reamed on my taxes...
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Thanks Hellrider,Guido and Becks I'd post pictures but I don't have a scanner,same reason I couldn't post pictures of my tattoos. I'll look into getting one soon though. When I do I'll post pictures of him. Hell I'll look into that this weekend. I take that back,Victoria now just looked and I have my old one but I lost the software and don't know shit how to operate it or how to get anything going. God I wish I lived near Guido!!! lol!! I do have a computer orienated friend I can call.
Hellrider...he is a chocolate colored pure breed Lab,and now I found out he is not 10 weeks old,he is just over 6 weeks old,damn is he small!!! lol!
(Quoting Message by Becks from Friday, April 15, 2011 12:32:19 AM)
Becks wrote:
Awesome JD, hope to see pics soon!
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Thanks Hellrider and Budred. Today we've got our new puppie named Linus,I'm excited! We've planned getting him for weeks now and today we've finally got him,he is 10 weeks old.
[Nupe The Ripper] Thursday, April 14, 2011 4:18:39 PM
Because it's nothing more than yet another reissue of Rocka Rolla and Sad Wings of Destiny produced by Priest's former label, Gull Records. The Rocka Rolla tracks were remixed for this compilation, but in my opinion the remixes sound poorer than the original.
wild_as_ozzy wrote:
why isn't hero, hero listed as one the bands cd's?
[Nupe The Ripper] Tuesday, April 12, 2011 6:26:13 AM
I know how you must feel right now, as my family's dog died in late November last year. It was a true shock after having her around for 13 years... suddenly there isn't a small, furry friend to greet you when you get home.
It's very awful to lose a pet after a long time.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Hey, HRMG,Guido and Spa....thanks alot guys. Yeah it freaking "SUCKS" to lose an animal. I'm so glad I put him down today,as I mentioned today was the very first sign of him starting to suffer,after today he wouldn't of had any quality of life and for me to hang onto him for another 3 weeks would of been selfish as he would of been suffering. The hard part is missing an animal you've had for 14 years. Truley lame.
As with all my animals in the past I was holding him when he passed and it was peaceful. I buried him in my back yard next to my other animal I had to put down in December. It was hard digging another hole. "SIGH".
But life must go on. Its funny that a little animal holds so much importance to your life ect... the irony of it all is that we are getting our puppie Friday or Saturday as we had planned for a long time,but we couldn't take him home because he was too young but now will be 10 or 11 weeks old. Yeah losing an animal really freaking sucks man. Thanks again for your kind words my friends.
[Nupe The Ripper] Friday, April 08, 2011 5:25:50 AM
Great to know that I'm not the only one here who enjoys 80s music! In my opinion the best pop songs ever were made during that period, and who wouldn't love all of those lovely power ballads? :D
Hi Nupe! Me too...disco, all the 80's stuff...Thomas Dolby, Prefab Sprout...I felt like a knob telling people I liked Journey and Foreigner and stuff like that. Oh well, one of the perks of getting old is not giving a sh*t about impressing other people or embarrassing yourself!
[Nupe The Ripper] Wednesday, April 06, 2011 4:14:36 PM
Am I the only one here who is hoping more for a Stained Class type album rather than another Painkiller? Raw, crispy old-school metal with killer riffs, highly technical drumming and guitar solos that blow your mind, that's what I'd like to hear. I do agree that Painkiller is a magnificent album as well, but I've always liked the more classic Priest a slight bit more.
[Nupe The Ripper] Tuesday, April 05, 2011 3:27:47 PM
Yeah, it truly does! When I originally sent out that e-mail, I was thinking that he probably replies in pretty much the same way that he did now. But after I read on the Judas Priest Shrine that it's administrator had to remove bootleg MP3's from his site after Rob's attorney demanded so, I do admit having been a little scared that it could've been the fate of my site, too. But all's well now, and it does give me little more energy to work on the site when I know that KK himself is aware of it.
Of course, being reassured that new material is being worked on also made me very happy!
[Nupe The Ripper] Tuesday, April 05, 2011 9:25:32 AM
Gah! Had three hours of "advanced" studies about MS Excel today. However, the teacher's idea of "advanced" was copying the same three-four formulas over nine spreadsheets...I haven't been so bored in a long while!
Back home now, and listening to Stained Class to make myself feel better. Ah, Beyond the Realms...
[Nupe The Ripper] Monday, April 04, 2011 3:28:38 PM
Woooo, got my questions answered by KK! I had been waiting for this day ever since I sent that e-mail. Of course I asked about bootlegs, being fairly active on that scene, and was pleased to see that he isn't against them (or at least that's the way I interpreted it): if he would've been against them, I probably would've quit my bootleg site immediately because I don't want to take part in something that my idols dislike.
I also asked him about any officially recorded material that's never been released, and he said that there might be some extra footage in a vault somewhere, although it's still very uncertain if they'll ever release it.
Also, K.K. confirms the same thing that Glenn already did: they are working on new material!
[Nupe The Ripper] Monday, April 04, 2011 1:31:52 PM
Well, we're about the same age then! I'm turning 20 this July, finished high school last year but now I'm studying IT in hopes of getting an actual job. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by hellrazerjazz from Monday, April 04, 2011 12:47:39 PM)
hellrazerjazz wrote:
19 years of headbanging mischefe under my belt! 2nd year in college. for the VETERAN fans, its BAD ASS you still have the same admiration for the metal gods and go to shows as a family! Younger ones, keep the fire in your blood boiling!
[Nupe The Ripper] Sunday, April 03, 2011 2:43:33 PM
Heard them for the first time in GTA Vice City back in 2003. At the time I had just gotten into hard rock with Uriah Heep and Deep Purple, so it was an obvious choice for me to listen to V-Rock in that game. Although the song featured in the game (You've Got Another Thing Comin') didn't yet make a huge impact on me back then.
Anyway, three years later I was looking for new bands as Heep & Purple started to sound a little too "soft". Because I knew fairly little about traditional heavy metal (modern metal bands sound like s**t if you ask me), I decided to use the playlist of V-Rock as a base on finding new bands. I admit that I resorted to pirating songs (back then I didn't think about the negative effects of it much). So I downloaded a couple of songs from each of the bands featured in Vice City, and Judas Priest really stood out of the rest. The first songs I heard from them (besides YGATC) were Painkiller, Jawbreaker, Hellrider, Revolution and I think Turbo Lover was there as well. And the more songs I heard from Priest, the more I started to think that "this is it, this is the band I want to start following". In a couple of months later I bought my first Priest CD - Killing Machine - and I consider having been a real fan ever since.
So, around four and a half years of defending the faith. And did I already say that I was born in 1991?
[Nupe The Ripper] Tuesday, March 22, 2011 1:50:22 PM
Another one to the admirer's row! While I usually dislike posts written with Caps Lock all the way, Hellrider manages to do it in such a way that it isn't irritating, but more like inspiring to everyone else!
[Nupe The Ripper] Tuesday, March 15, 2011 5:15:07 PM
Whatever happened to www.judaspriestworld.com? I admit that I wasn't following Judas Priest web pages much in 2009 and 2010, so I've pretty much missed out on the site. The launch of the site seems to have gotten into many music news sources, so you'd think it'd have had a lot of support. But nowadays if I input that address in the browser I find myself on one of those many "placeholder" scam sites. Did someone just forget to pay for the hosting, or is there something more morbid behind this?
[Nupe The Ripper] Monday, March 14, 2011 3:37:30 PM
Greetings from my website, again. During the past eight days I've added six completely new shows: Cambridge '78 (incl. Savage, Stained Class and Let Us Prey/Call for the Priest), Live Aid '85, Los Angeles '86 (incl. Hot for Love), Copenhagen '88 (incl. Johnny B. Goode), Rock In Rio '91 (incl. All Guns Blazing and Painkiller) and Idaho '04. I've also done a major quality upgrade on the Palladium '77 bootleg, found professional-quality covers for Essen '86 and added an alternative version of Mother Sun to the Slough College bootleg. I've still got a few shows just waiting for me to start editing them, so keep checking the site!
[Nupe The Ripper] Friday, March 11, 2011 6:50:00 AM
Hi there, welcome to the forums & I hope you have a good time in the wondeful world of Priest!
Do you want a compilation first or go straight for the studio albums? Best compilations (material-wise) are Metal Works '73-'93, The Essential or, if you can afford it and can locate a copy, Metalogy. Best studio albums for starters are prolly British Steel (buy the 30th Anniversary edition while it's still in stock!), Screaming for Vengeance or Defenders of the Faith. From there on you can start getting the other albums.
[Nupe The Ripper] Friday, March 11, 2011 5:18:55 AM
Yeah, I wasn't criticizing the whole Painkiller track as a live version, just Rob's voice in it. But for a guy in his sixties, he makes a respectable effort to sing it like he did twenty years ago. Year idea of letting the guitars do the screaming is actually quite good.
Nupe & Metallian,actually the entire Painkiller track live these days is actually decent its just that we all love and crave that signature "scream" that Rob does which really makes the song and he seems to struggle with it live,I keep saying I think it would be better if he just let Glenn or K.K. do that scream on thier guitars,it would do Painkiller justice these days,that way the entire track live would be much more enjoyable,no?
NupeTheJawbreaker wrote:
Maybe it's meant to increase the sales of painkiller medication?
On a more serious note, I agree that Rob has never managed to do a proper job with Painkiller when it's performed live. He did an OK job in 1991 (Rock In Rio bootleg) but can't do it at all nowadays.
The Metallian wrote:
Breakin the Law! I agree with u 100% J.D.! It is painfull to listen to painkiller live nowadays! Which makes no sense cause,if it is suppose to kill pain,why then does it cause so much pain to listen to it!
[Nupe The Ripper] Friday, March 11, 2011 12:17:03 AM
Maybe it's meant to increase the sales of painkiller medication?
On a more serious note, I agree that Rob has never managed to do a proper job with Painkiller when it's performed live. He did an OK job in 1991 (Rock In Rio bootleg) but can't do it at all nowadays.
The Metallian wrote:
Breakin the Law! I agree with u 100% J.D.! It is painfull to listen to painkiller live nowadays! Which makes no sense cause,if it is suppose to kill pain,why then does it cause so much pain to listen to it!
[Nupe The Ripper] Wednesday, March 09, 2011 4:33:21 PM
Neither of them are crap. I have both of these on CD and vinyl and have listened to them about three to four times during the past two weeks (just like every other Priest album I own), so I know what I'm talking about.
PoE has it's moments with Heading Out to the Highway, Hot Rockin', Don't Go and Desert Plains, although it does also have not-so-good tracks like You Say Yes and Turning Circles. The album is much lighter than most other Priest albums but that's why I love the band; they've got so much variety, and this album in particular is for the feel-good moments.
I have more mixed feelings about Turbo. My other musical passion along with metal & rock is 80s pop (a weird combination, I know). So at the first glance, a combination of two of my favorite styles doesn't sound bad. I've always liked Turbo Lover - it was one of the songs that hooked me with the band. Out in the Cold is one of the best power ballads I've heard (I have a soft spot to power ballads, to be honest) and Reckless is a great hard rocker - although a bit out of it's place among the other, more synth-driven tracks. Again, there's some feel-good songs like Locked In, Parental Guidance, Rock You All Around the World and Wild Nights, Hot & Crazy Days, all of them great party songs. Private Property and Hot for Love try to be more serious but can't quite get there with all the synths, and are probably the weakest tracks on the album (although I love the solo in Hot for Love). Conclusion: I like the album, but it's not so much Priest as other albums. But I still listen to it regularly.
[Nupe The Ripper] Wednesday, March 09, 2011 2:09:52 AM
First song I heard was You've Got Another Thing Comin'. After listening to a few more songs, I bought the Killing Machine CD in early 2007 and have been hooked ever since.
[Nupe The Ripper] Tuesday, March 08, 2011 3:16:57 AM
Sorry, only audio here, but videos from this era are scarce as a hen's teeth. Why this was never properly recorded is beyond my understanding - an epic song!
[Nupe The Ripper] Monday, March 07, 2011 9:38:14 AM
I just wrote an e-mail to no other than K. K. Downing himself (through the Q&A section of his website), and believe me I was extremely tense as I couldn't stop thinking about the fact that it might very well be read by one of my biggest idols, or even be published for everyone to see. it was also very difficult to keep it as short as possible, but I think I managed it well enough.
Dammit, I'm now reading my local copy of it and of course I forgot a typo in there!
[Nupe The Ripper] Sunday, March 06, 2011 4:06:12 PM
Pictures and/or track listing would help recognize it. It's probably one of the many, many Gull Records re-issues of Priest's earlier material, but sounds interesting nevertheless.
[Nupe The Ripper] Saturday, March 05, 2011 5:14:10 PM
Here's another kickass song never played live after the 1988 tour. Quality isn't all that great but I've got a great-sounding audio bootleg from the same tour which also has this one in it.
[Nupe The Ripper] Saturday, March 05, 2011 4:53:09 PM
I loved Biker Mice from Mars too! Hard rock, kickass characters and great dialogue with double meanings (which I've only now understood), and for once a good dubbing job in Finnish. It doesn't get any better than that.
I have a four-hour VHS full of Biker Mice (plus some lovely 90's TV-shop adverts!) recorded from the TV, and when I watched it with a couple of friends we couldn't stop laughing, because only now we could understand all of those cheesy double meanings in the dialogue.
[Nupe The Ripper] Thursday, March 03, 2011 12:46:03 PM
I normally shun at artists who come from the Idol shows, but I seriously hope this guy can make it big. Traditional style heavy metal should be represented in the media much more than what it is now. If the Idol format can finally produce a good heavy metal singer, it's a great thing.
I hope he won't be like the "heavy metal" guy we had in our local Idols a few years back. He didn't sound too bad, but he looked like a 12-year old metal-wannabe and both of his albums were more like watered-down hard rock than actual heavy metal. While they did sell a lot, most of the buyers were actually the kind of people who usually don't listen to metal. I mean, his fanbase consisted largely of schoolkids (mostly girls) and their mothers. Moreover, he was very arrogant and proud of himself and pissed off more than a few old Finnish rock musicians.
Since then he has joined a rather unknown band and faded into obscurity pretty much. Thank goodness for that.
[Nupe The Ripper] Thursday, March 03, 2011 12:00:43 PM
Jugulator, Live Meltdown '98, Live in London, Angel of Retribution Deluxe Edition and British Steel 30th Anniversary Deluxe Edition. Also, Live In London as DVD.
Total cost was about 110 euros, but now my collection is pretty much complete. I ordered them now but I'll have to wait before they are in stock again, so it might take a month before I have all of them.
[Nupe The Ripper] Wednesday, March 02, 2011 6:09:36 AM
I just love that record shop...
Got myself Screaming for Vengeance, Defenders of the Faith and Turbo as original vinyls today. I checked my e-mail at school and had a notification from there that they had received new Judas Priest stuff. So I got there straight from school at got my self these gems for as low as 36 euros!
Only four more to go: Sad Wings, Stained Class, Killing Machine and Painkiller!
[Nupe The Ripper] Tuesday, March 01, 2011 4:43:02 PM
I happen to do that, too! But I generally don't buy anything because I've usually planned ahead on what Priest stuff I'm going to buy next.
I also host a Priest bootleg site which has taken a good couple of weeks of my spare time, all without knowing if someone actually visits it...nevertheless I still keep on updating it. The link is in my profile.
[Nupe The Ripper] Tuesday, March 01, 2011 4:18:59 PM
Got some new stuff there, including a couple of rarities but also another great concert, from New York 1981.
You also might be delighted to hear that I finally got myself the St. Louis 1986 boot, sourced from the FM master no less! It's too late for me to work on it today but I'll promise you I'll have it up there tomorrow.
[Nupe The Ripper] Wednesday, February 23, 2011 10:07:59 AM
And as an added bonus, I actually get to hear what the records have originally sounded like, unlike the remasters which have been "improved" afterwards. That's why I'm hunting for original used vinyls instead of buying the new Back on Black reissues.
Still looking for Sad Wings, Stained Class, Killing Machine, Screaming, Defenders, Turbo and Painkiller as original vinyls. I'm sure they'll eventually surface somewhere as well. Seven down, seven to go! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Budred from Wednesday, February 23, 2011 9:57:10 AM) Edited at: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 10:09:17 AM
[Nupe The Ripper] Wednesday, February 23, 2011 9:30:58 AM
Finally got those used vinyls I talked about here earlier, and I gotta say I'm very satisfied with the quality. Even better, all of them are as original issues as they can get. Currently playing Sin After Sin, and it doesn't lose out to the CD at all. I'll keep on monitoring that record store's website as they seem to be the most reliable source for quality used vinyls. Edited at: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 9:33:21 AM
[Nupe The Ripper] Sunday, February 20, 2011 6:38:08 AM
Guess who's going downtown tomorrow to fetch some vinyls...
Short Finnish-to-English translation: käytetty LP = used LP, toimituspäivä = delivery date, i.e. the day when the store gets the stuff, kuvapussit = picture sleeves, osta = buy, i.e. I could order them to my home right now but I want to make sure that these aren't the Back in Black reissues. Edited at: Sunday, February 20, 2011 6:38:26 AM
[Nupe The Ripper] Sunday, February 20, 2011 6:13:37 AM
I'd be happy to have anything like 30 degrees Fahrenheit here right now, as it would be merely -1 in Celsius. We currently have a pleasant -11 degrees Celsius, or 12 degrees Fahrenheit here. And it's a lot warmer that a couple of days ago when we had -20 C/ -11 F.
But, I guess we're just used to it. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Darth_Painkiller_0870 from Saturday, February 19, 2011 9:20:28 PM)
Darth_Painkiller_0870 wrote:
Ugh...I just checked the weather for the week...40 tomorrow and in the 30s Monday. Good thing I left the third blanket on my bed!
That's awesome that your daughter wants to go see the mighty JP so badly! \m/ \m/
spapad wrote:
Ah!!! The babies!! They are so cute!
Seriously that cold up there eh? Funny as it has been loads warm down here for about a week and even NYC got this weather so I just guess the atlantic states got it.
Flora can not wait to go see Priest, she was mad to find out that the tour would start on the opposite side of the world. lol But she is ready and willing to go and jump around and sing her heart out! lol
Darth_Painkiller_0870 wrote:
Spa, today was 46 degrees with 25 mph winds that caused power outages everywhere. We're supposed to get some colder weather tomorrow through Tuesday before it warms up again up here.
I want to take my baby brother. He likes Priest but has never seen them live.
My little boy turns 5 in May and starts Kindergarden in Sept! My daughter is 3.
spapad wrote:
So, you have had those nice temps lately too. It worries me as I remember the blizzard hit 8 days before spring. lol
Yeppers, Priest next year..............I want to go a couple times. Flora is going with me.
What's your babies ages now? They are so cute.
Darth_Painkiller_0870 wrote:
We had temps of 67 Thursday and Friday and then this cold front from hell is coming in now and they say Philadelphia might get a bit of snow or rain on Tuesday. This shit needs to go!!!!!!!
I think Priest is going to warm up and do Europe first, but where they're taking it from there, only they know. I would love for them to hit the States after Europe! Keep your fingers crossed I guess.
Definitely busy in a good way.
guidogodoy wrote:
Same ol' same ol', my friend. Holding my breath for warmer weather AND the new US Priest dates.
Not much luck with either right now. Family is doing well, I hope? Busy sounds like a good thing.
Darth_Painkiller_0870 wrote:
Hey guido! Not much going on. Just a lot of stuff with work, kids and whatnot. How are things?
[Nupe The Ripper] Saturday, February 19, 2011 9:30:45 AM
Well I don't have a pet of my own, but my sister has a rabbit, and whenever she's at our house (usually during the weekends), I often take the rabbit in my room. Sitting or laying on my desk right next to the computer mouse, he can spend up to two and a half hours here. He's actually here right now as I'm posting this.
What's more interesting about him is that he actually enjoys listening to Judas Priest! If I don't have a Priest record playing from my stereo, he looks a little anxious and moves around. But if I put a CD or LP in, he starts lying down and looks like he's really enjoying himself...
[Nupe The Ripper] Friday, February 18, 2011 3:31:04 PM
All righty then, just ordered the ticket for the last day of the Sauna Open Air Metal Festival, where Priest will be giving their (supposedly) last gig in Finland.
Great thing that I ordered it as a PDF file, so I actually have the ticket on my hands right now!
Edit: Hell yeah, Accept performs on the same day! Too bad that Saxon performs on the day before it and there's no other good bands, else I probably had bought the full three-day ticket. Edited at: Friday, February 18, 2011 3:34:52 PM
[Nupe The Ripper] Friday, February 18, 2011 1:42:46 PM
Hi guys, how's things? Been listening to a lot of bootlegs lately? Well I certainly have, most of my free time during the past couple of weeks has been spent doing that...
I recently launched a website which lists all of the quality bootlegs I've found in a single place, with full ID3 tag information, and on file hosting services that don't impose any limitations on downloading. You're welcome to add any new suggestions there. This is simply a project I put up after I got bored of have little-to-no information on most of the bootlegs.
Here it is: Priest's Boot Edited at: Friday, February 18, 2011 1:45:15 PM
[Nupe The Ripper] Thursday, February 17, 2011 12:43:18 AM
Well, back when I created this account I still used my older online name "Nupe The Nuke" a lot. I simply modified it to sound more Priest-like, so at first I went by the name "NupeTheRipper". I later changed it to my current name, because I thought it would fit my personality better, without knowing what the song was actually about...haven't changed it anymore though.
"Nupe" was my nick name during junior high, and it's based on that I happen to share the same surname with a former Finnish ice hockey goaltender, whose nick name happens to be that. "Nuke" simply rhymed with "Nupe".
[Nupe The Ripper] Wednesday, February 16, 2011 7:34:39 AM
It can't just be the Facbook thingy on the right sidebar that's making this many people come here. Sure, it has probably helped the official Facebook site to gain about 4000 new fans during the past 24 hours, but how have people found this site in the first place? Surely not all of them have simply looked at what their friends like on Facebook and followed suit. Besides, there's a huge amount of people who have joined the site simply to post their favourite setlist. Are they long-term fans who have only found the noticeboard now or do they just want to have their word in this topic as well?
[Nupe The Ripper] Tuesday, February 15, 2011 11:09:24 PM
Checked back on the board when I woke up (yes, it's morning here already!): "There are 140 new messages". About a hundred from the Epitaph setlist thread alone. Rapid fire of messages, indeed!
[Nupe The Ripper] Tuesday, February 15, 2011 3:52:34 PM
Anyone else noticed that a lot of new members have joined both here (much more than usually, and most of them are posting) and on the Facebook page (at least a thousand more!) today?
Edit: most of the "new" members actually seem to be older ones who have only now gone active.
[Nupe The Ripper] Tuesday, February 15, 2011 3:46:51 PM
Updated list, I think that 22 songs is pretty much the maximum for one concert, although 25 would be even better. Nevertheless this list is much longer, but I hope that some of these make it to the setlist.
First, the timeline-stuff:
Rocka Rolla (hasn't been performed after the mid-70s)
Tyrant (a great-show-ender dropped after 1981, should be played again)
Starbreaker (hasn't been played after 1979)
Savage (only played a couple of times in 1978)
Running Wild (with the exception of a couple Ripper performances, last heard in 1980)
Steeler (with the exception of the anniversary tour, last time was in 1980)
Hot Rockin' (little-played great rocker)
Screaming for Vengeance (last heard in 1986, a great track)
Jawbreaker (not played after the accompanying tour, this is one of the songs that introduced me to the band so it means a lot to me)
Reckless (never played before, although one of the better tracks on Turbo IMO)
Blood Red Skies (a great epic also never heard live)
Leather Rebel (only played in 1990, a great track that deserves another go)
Close to You (if you play any Ripper-era stuff, then please play this)
Deal With the Devil (of course you have to include your "biography" song!)
Persecution (one of the Nostradamus greats)
Then, the classics:
Victim of Changes
Sinner
Beyond the Realms of Death
The Green Manalishi
Breaking the Law
Living After Midnight
The Hellion/Electric Eye
Freewheel Burning
The Sentinel
Ram It Down
Painkiller
A Touch of Evil
Encore:
Hell Bent for Leather
You've Got Another Thing Comin'
Metal Gods
All in all it's 30 songs long, but if at least half of my less-played suggestions make it to the setlist, I'm very happy!
[Nupe The Ripper] Monday, February 14, 2011 4:50:43 AM
I wrote nothing about Ram It Down in that post! I only wrote about Sin After Sin in general.
I've never thought RID to be a bad album, it's got those killer cuts like the title track, Hard as Iron and Blood Red Skies, just as you wrote there. The intro for Heavy Metal is also great, a precursor to Metal Meltdown, and the song is not that bad, although it would be lot better without the synths. I've always had a liking for Come and Get It, I'm a Rocker and Monsters of Rock as well. Johnny B. Goode might not do justice to the original but it's a decent one, and it's perfect in my MP3 player when I don't concentrate on the music much. Pretty much the only bad songs are Love Zone and Love You to Death.
Music-wise, it's a decent album, although some of the songs tend to be a bit unimaginative. Certainly not the worst the band has spilled out. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by JudasRyan777 from Sunday, February 13, 2011 9:53:12 PM)
JudasRyan777 wrote:
are you nuts??? Ram it down is fucking killer with great tracks like " Ram it down " " Blood read skies" and of course the great Hard as Iron... although the Chuck Berry cover does ruing the record to be honest
NupeTheJawbreaker wrote:
Tuffv: Well, there's always the Judas Priest Info Pages that have much insight in all of the albums and the band's history in general: maddrakket.com/SINAFTERSIN.html
Maple Syrup: thanks for adding that up, never read the facts about Bink's resignation that thoroughly.
Personally, I think that Sin After Sin is very underrated as an album, just like the follow-up Stained Class. For me, this era was Judas Priest-style heavy metal at its purest, before the almost-pop sounding Killing Machine. With the first double-bass drummer ever in the band (instead of the jazz drummers before), the tempos were getting up (listen to Call for the Priest/Let Us Prey and you know what I mean), there was much less progressive rock influence than on the first two LPs, and Glenn and K.K. started to create some really great riffs. Sinner, Starbreaker, the excellent cover of Diamonds and Rust, Call for the Priest/Let Us Prey, Dissident Aggressor, all heavy songs indeed. Dissident Aggressor has that memorable extremely-high piched scream by Rob, probably the highest that has been put on a studio album. Here Come the Tears starts up slow but ends in full power, kind of a proto-power ballad. Raw Deal has some good guitarwork but is still mid-paced and quite long, a remnant from the earlier progressive-influenced days. And then there's one of the few actual Priest ballads (not a power ballad), Last Rose of Summer, making you calm down before the blistering drums of Let Us Prey kick in. All in all an excellent record that has been unjustifiably forgotten because most of the tracks aren't played live often, just like Stained Class.
[Nupe The Ripper] Sunday, February 13, 2011 12:08:35 PM
Yeah, that's what I think myself, and so does my friend who has played guitar for around 10 years. If I'm just playing for fun then there's no matter how cheap the guitar is.
Unlike some people I've seen on some forums who think that a guitar under the price of 300 euros is no guitar at all. If someone who hasn't played a guitar before would buy a guitar for 400 euros and then decide that it's not his/her thing after a few weeks, he/she would lose a great deal of money when selling it to someone else. But if he/she would buy a guitar for 100 euros and then decided it's not his/her thing, then he/she would lose only a little money when re-selling it. That's why I bought the cheap guitar: I was unsure of if I wanted to play for a long time.
Unfortunately though I'm not having any fun with the guitar at the moment: the D string of it thought that it had heard "Grinder" too many times and decided to break. I do have the replacement string but it seems very hard to put it in place. Any guides I've found on the internet don't seem to apply with this particular guitar.
Wait a minute...it seems that the small remaining bit of the string was stuck. I finally managed to remove it, let's see if I can re-string it now... Edited at: Sunday, February 13, 2011 12:18:43 PM
[Nupe The Ripper] Sunday, February 13, 2011 5:30:09 AM
I only have a Williams E-400 Stratocaster look-a-like and the amplifier that came with it, a Williams GF-15. However, before you start posting about how bad it is, I'm reminding you of that a) I'm a student and have very little money to spare and b) I'm only playing for fun, so personally I don't think that I need a quality guitar to do that. Besides, I've played it through a proper Marshall amp at my friend's training place, and it sounded pretty good considering the guitar cost me about 70 euros. I live in an apartment block so I certainly cannot play it that loud at home anyway. The guitar and amp take up quite a little room, which is important because I don't have much extra space to spare.
[Nupe The Ripper] Friday, February 11, 2011 7:34:56 AM
Now Glenn is down to 5%, sharing the score with the much-overrated James Hetfield.
Stupid Finnish tabloids making huge headlines because of Alexi Laiho and giving him much publicity, yesterday his score was at 10% and now he's suddenly at 17%...
"Us Finns are proud to see that Alexi Laiho is listed as the very first candidate". Well excuse me, Iltalehti, but the list is in alphabetical order, so it doesn't make him special in any way... Edited at: Friday, February 11, 2011 7:50:53 AM
[Nupe The Ripper] Saturday, February 05, 2011 11:46:26 AM
I made a trip today to the specialist record stores in downtown with a good friend of mine and managed to find two used Priest vinyls: Priest...Live! and Rocka Rolla. Even better, they're almost as original as they can get; Live is the original 1987 Holland/European issue, and Rocka Rolla is the 1978 US reissue by Visa Records - a good find in Finland, especially. Both cost me 15 euros each, which is pretty cheap if you ask me. Rocka Rolla has some slight distortion in it, but for a 33-year-old LP it sounds great (not to mention the actual music of course). I've so far listened to the side 1 of the Live album and it sounds perfect. There were of course the Back In Black re-issues for sale as well, but I prefer getting them as originals because I can always listen to the Remasters on CD. Overall these two second-hand LPs have been some of the best 30 euros I've ever spent on records.
In the same store there were also Accept's Balls to the Wall (not sure of the issue), Scorpions' Breakout (Spanish issue with Spanish song titles...) and Uriah Heep's Very 'eavy, Very 'umble (Bronze Records re-issue, not sure of they year) and a helluva lot of other hard rock/metal vinyls, but sadly I had to leave them to the shelf until I get more cash (they're probably gone by then)... Edited at: Saturday, February 05, 2011 11:47:43 AM
[Nupe The Ripper] Friday, February 04, 2011 3:42:38 PM
Tuffv: Well, there's always the Judas Priest Info Pages that have much insight in all of the albums and the band's history in general: maddrakket.com/SINAFTERSIN.html
Maple Syrup: thanks for adding that up, never read the facts about Bink's resignation that thoroughly.
Personally, I think that Sin After Sin is very underrated as an album, just like the follow-up Stained Class. For me, this era was Judas Priest-style heavy metal at its purest, before the almost-pop sounding Killing Machine. With the first double-bass drummer ever in the band (instead of the jazz drummers before), the tempos were getting up (listen to Call for the Priest/Let Us Prey and you know what I mean), there was much less progressive rock influence than on the first two LPs, and Glenn and K.K. started to create some really great riffs. Sinner, Starbreaker, the excellent cover of Diamonds and Rust, Call for the Priest/Let Us Prey, Dissident Aggressor, all heavy songs indeed. Dissident Aggressor has that memorable extremely-high piched scream by Rob, probably the highest that has been put on a studio album. Here Come the Tears starts up slow but ends in full power, kind of a proto-power ballad. Raw Deal has some good guitarwork but is still mid-paced and quite long, a remnant from the earlier progressive-influenced days. And then there's one of the few actual Priest ballads (not a power ballad), Last Rose of Summer, making you calm down before the blistering drums of Let Us Prey kick in. All in all an excellent record that has been unjustifiably forgotten because most of the tracks aren't played live often, just like Stained Class.
[Nupe The Ripper] Friday, February 04, 2011 9:17:41 AM
"Simon was a great drummer. Why they didn't keep him I don'know. But I also like their latest drummer that's been with them since after Sin After Sin."
Actually, the band would have wanted to keep Simon Phillips as their drummer, but he declined because of other commitments. They eventually had Les Binks with them for the next two years, until the band decided that they needed a more straight-forward drummer. In came Dave Holland, who lasted through the whole 80s, before he quit because of health and personal reasons. Since then Scott Travis has been the band's drummer. Edited at: Friday, February 04, 2011 9:24:29 AM
[Nupe The Ripper] Thursday, February 03, 2011 2:51:47 PM
Has anyone else had problems with Judas Priest videos on YouTube? At least in here, most of the videos on the official Judas Priest YouTube channel are blocked (only the teasers/trailers are viewable), and the Judas Priest Vevo channel has "Love Bites" and "Freewheel Burning" blocked, although the other music videos can still be viewed (for now, at least). Edited at: Thursday, February 03, 2011 2:59:45 PM
[Nupe The Ripper] Thursday, February 03, 2011 8:08:41 AM
Probably the best book you can get at the moment is Defenders of the Faith by Neil Daniels. It's unauthorized, but also the most definitive biography book about the band at the moment.
[Nupe The Ripper] Thursday, February 03, 2011 6:30:54 AM
Thanks, I'll keep those in mind once I've got the possibility to buy more records again. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Budred from Thursday, February 03, 2011 6:28:01 AM)
Budred wrote:
If you want to check out the Scorpions get "Virgin Killers", "Love Drive", "Animal Magnetism", and/or their first two "Best of's".
You'll find alot of good music there. Oh' and "Blackout".(How can I forget that one?)
NupeTheJawbreaker wrote:
1. Judas Priest
2. Saxon (first four albums)
3. Accept
4. AC/DC
5. Scorpions
6. Deep Purple
7. Van Halen
8. Def Leppard (High 'n' Dry is one of my favorite albums)
9. Uriah Heep (first four-five albums)
10. Ozzy Osbourne/Black Sabbath (can't really decide which)
I have to get some more Scorpions when the opportunity arises, just listened to some stuff on Spotify and it's amazing! I only knew them of their softer stuff played on the radio so I haven't payed much attention until now...
[Nupe The Ripper] Thursday, February 03, 2011 6:21:37 AM
1. Judas Priest (unsurprisingly)
2. Saxon (first four albums)
3. Accept (up to and including Russian Roulette)
4. AC/DC (at leas the albums I've already got)
5. Scorpions (have to get more of this)
6. Deep Purple (before the first breakup)
7. Van Halen (70s and 80s stuff)
8. Uriah Heep (first four-five albums)
9. Def Leppard (High 'n' Dry is one of my favorite albums)
10. UFO (sounds pretty good, another new acquaintance)
I have to get some more Scorpions when the opportunity arises, just listened to some stuff on Spotify and it's amazing! I only knew them of their softer stuff played on the radio so I haven't payed much attention until now... Edited at: Thursday, February 03, 2011 6:51:27 AM
[Nupe The Ripper] Tuesday, February 01, 2011 6:41:55 PM
Found a couple more bootleg sites, but unfortunately two out of the three also had links to illegal downloads for the official releases, like studio albums. I'm posting here the only one that was "legit": onlybootleghere.blogspot.com/search/label/Judas%20Priest
All of the sites had some unique bits in them, like the King Biscuit 1984 broadcast and some easy-to access downloads for ABC Defenders and Essen '86, plus some harder-to-find boots like Saints & Sinners. But the two others do indeed contain official stuff as well, so I'm not linking them here, but I'll give links in a PM t anyone interested.
[Nupe The Ripper] Tuesday, February 01, 2011 12:34:06 PM
The very first line on the first song, One for the Road, on the first album, Rocka Rolla: Where would you be without music? I think that symbolises the band and it's fans well. The rest of the song fits the band as well. Besides, that song set forth a new era in music when people first heard it in August-September 1974.
[Nupe The Ripper] Tuesday, February 01, 2011 12:27:58 PM
Haha, I had it in my previous phone. With the current phone I've always got another thing comin' when someone calls me [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Mr. Dave Genocide from Tuesday, February 01, 2011 12:21:27 PM)
Mr. Dave Genocide wrote:
Hey... Whenever someone calls me, this is my ringtone, mwahahahahah!
[Nupe The Ripper] Tuesday, February 01, 2011 12:24:40 PM
I just finished listening to the interview. I don't see why the band is calling it rubbish: John Hinch isn't exactly ranting about the band in any way (unlike in the unofficial biography book "Defenders of the Faith" where he's more aggressive towards the band), and while I can't be sure of the facts, he doesn't seem to be lying either. Although I do agree that it doesn't offer any new information and is definitely not a reason to purchase a record with it.
The Sad Wings/Rocka Rolla bundle-pack I got looks like this (without the black sticker).
It's a pretty good remastering of the original albums and eliminates any hiss that supposedly exists in earlier re-releases. It also uses the original mixes instead of the remixes on Hero, Hero (which are pretty atrocious, if you ask me). The bonuses, then are a different thing. There's the 1975 version of Diamonds and Rust found on just about every reissue of Rocka Rolla, which is nice to have but nothing ground-breaking. Then there's the Old Grey Whistle performances in Video CD format, which are claimed to be rare but have been already released in much better quality on the official Electric Eye DVD in 2003, while this is from 2006 (not 2000 as I originally remembered). The Sad Wings side also sounds good and has been faithfully remastered, but there's no extras to speak about. There's only the John Hinch interview which, as I said earlier in this post, really doesn't offer anything new.
If you can find one and still don't own the original two albums, this is a good choice. But if you already have the first two albums in some format, then this is just as valuable as any of the other re-releases and -packings: zero.
[Nupe The Ripper] Tuesday, February 01, 2011 11:09:00 AM
The one found on this site (under "Tour Info") is the official listing, and contains all of the shows announced so far. You can't get a more accurate one because they simply haven't yet announced any more concerts (but they surely will). Don't worry, I'm sure they'll announce the US dates early enough so that people can plan well ahead. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by JudasRyan777 from Tuesday, February 01, 2011 10:33:45 AM)
JudasRyan777 wrote:
Well, I was wondering about the current epitaph tour dates, I'm trying to see them as much as possible during their last tour and I don't have an accurate tour plan + the tour dates for USA are not even listed
[Nupe The Ripper] Tuesday, February 01, 2011 1:01:27 AM
The same interview is also included as a "bonus" on the Sad Wings of Destiny album in the bundle-pack of Rocka Rolla and Sad Wings I bought from a department store a couple of years ago. It's pretty frustrating that it's simply put in after the original music tracks, so if I don't want to listen to it (which is the case almost all the time), I'll have to pay attention and stop the play after Island of Domination has faded out (like any other SWoD re-releases, this too has had it A and B sides flipped). But I think I'll listen to the interview again once I get home from school today (as you can see, I'm really paying attention to my IT studies).
The booklet that comes with the CDs also gives a short, but good insight on the early history of Priest, with the important facts from 1968 all the way to 1974 (or '76, can't remember it right now). Other bonuses on the same package included the mandatory Gull Records-version of Diamonds and Rust and "rare" TV performances from 1975 (The Old Grey Whistle ones) on Video CD format (!). Although the "rare" moniker might be correct because, if I recall correctly, the package was originally from 2000, three years before they got their "official" release on the Electric Eye DVD.
About that bootleg trade site: whoa, someone really thinks he's got a good business there. 9-15 euros each from bootlegs I've gotten for free from other sites, often in lossless FLAC or high-quality MP3 format. They even dare to have the Memphis '82 show there, listed as "rare" and costs 20 euros! I bet that it's not the official release, the going rate for it is around 12 euros nowadays... Although I've seen worse prices; I remember seeing the 1986 Kiel Auditorium CD for sale at 60 dollars somewhere . Anyone who buys stuff from there is wasting his money on stuff that can be either gotten for free or much cheaper in other places.
[Nupe The Ripper] Tuesday, February 01, 2011 12:26:07 AM
Sad to hear, didn't know the full story behind the site. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Monday, January 31, 2011 6:38:15 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Um...probably because Madrakket passed on. The site was simply uploaded and left untouched by his friends years ago.
Click on each of the (studio) album covers and you can see all the tour dates for that particular album. Doesn't contain info about the Nostradamus or British Steel 30th Anniversary tours, though.
JudasRyan777 wrote:
Can anyone help me with the Tour dates of Judas Priest.
[Nupe The Ripper] Monday, January 31, 2011 1:49:20 PM
Beyond the Realms of Death, definitely. Although it's quite powerful for a ballad.
Other great ones are Turn on Your Light, Prisoner of Your Eyes, Night Comes Down, Out in the Cold and Angel (did I miss any ballads at all? ). Of these, perhaps Night Comes Down.
Click on each of the (studio) album covers and you can see all the tour dates for that particular album. Doesn't contain info about the Nostradamus or British Steel 30th Anniversary tours, though. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by JudasRyan777 from Monday, January 31, 2011 1:15:35 PM)
JudasRyan777 wrote:
Can anyone help me with the Tour dates of Judas Priest.
[Nupe The Ripper] Monday, January 31, 2011 1:31:12 PM
Well, it depends on who's speaking, but I'm about 1,9 meters tall (around 6' 3" in American measurements), and currently weigh in about 150kg (330 lbs), so there's still plenty to get rid of. Some doctors could even call me obese, but I personally hate the term as it reminds me of the 300kg tanks who can barely move at all, which I see in the TV documents every once in a while. Years of excessive computer usage have certainly left their mark, let alone the stuff I've put down my mouth. But I finally got tired of always being the fat guy. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Monday, January 31, 2011 12:23:55 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Coming from (one of?) the most overweight nations in the world, I'd be curious to know what someone from Finland considers "overweight." I often go to the store and find all the electric carts are out on the floor because people are so large that they can't walk.
Good luck on that diet. Great goal - fit in a SFV shirt. We can call it the Priest diet and set a new trend. No longer will it be the açai berry.
[Nupe The Ripper] Monday, January 31, 2011 9:37:43 AM
Nah, couldn't find a better topic for this, and felt that starting a new one wasn't necessary either.
I'm currently in the process of losing some weight so that I can wear the Priest t-shirt I've got when they hit Finland perhaps for the final time in June. The shirt looks like this:
I tried it on me on the 8th Jan, and I certainly didn't like what I saw. So I started a healthier diet, not only because of the shirt but because I didn't feel good about being so overweight. I haven't been on the scale for a couple of days but the last time I checked I had shed almost four kilos - and that's only from the start of this month, so it's good I guess. The shirt already fits much better, although it's still a little tight. Good thing I have time up until June to finish this project, and the current results are certainly promising.
EDIT: just noticed how nicely the two pictures of the shirt line up, although that definitely wasn't my purpose! Edited at: Monday, January 31, 2011 9:38:58 AM
[Nupe The Ripper] Sunday, January 30, 2011 6:01:02 PM
Deciding which Priest album is the best or worst is really difficult, because each one of them is unique. Not much of the previous album's sound ever make it to the next one. Unlike some bands which repeat the same formula that has sold them records for years already.
Looking at this topic, or any other similar discussion for that matter, the most popular Priest albums to nominate as their worst are Point of Entry, Turbo and Demolition. I'll give you my own opinion about them.
Point of Entry: OK, so this might not be the raw-sounding British Steel metal or the full-blast Screaming for Vengeance stuff, but with enough time spent listening it, I think it's a decent record after all. At first I generally disliked this album and only liked one or two songs from this, but after a few times spent listening, it has begun to sound better. So, the tracks sound quite commercialized or downright cheesy (You Say Yes and All the Way in particular), and the music videos merely make me laugh these days (although as a Finn, it was nice to see Halford in a sauna during Hot Rockin'!). But these easy-going songs are great when I need to relax, kick back and feel happy about what I've already got. There's still enough Priest sound there to merit the logo on the cover, no doubt about that. Besides, the lighter sound is a good way to introduce people who've never listened metal before to the band. Definitely not the worst the band has put out. But both versions of the cover art are hideous, I give you that.
Turbo: This is where things get messy. I like this album too, having listened to mainly 80s pop (don't laugh!) before I discovered the old heavy bands like Heep and Purple (and with time, Priest). So, the combination of my previous and current favorite genre doesn't sound too bad to me, after all. But I agree that this is an oddity as a Priest album. Though I still think that Turbo Lover, Out in the Cold and Reckless, and sometimes Locked In, are great tracks, even when compared to other Priest songs. This is also a feel-good album, much like Point of Entry, to me. Overall it's a good album, but not necessarily a Priest classic.
Demolition: The first time I heard a song from this album (I think it was One on One), I thought that someone had mislabeled it as Priest. It was so much different from the classic albums I had heard before that. While the more modern approach might appeal to some, this is not the way Priest could've gotten new fans, as I think the main reason behind this was. Ditching the unique traditional style to something that a thousand other bands were doing at the same time just doesn't cut it. Jugulator, while also being very brutal, at least had some imagination in it. Most of the songs here just get in from one ear and out of the other, with nothing happening in between. It's just a large chunk of same-sounding guitars and vocals over and over again, with only a couple of exceptions. Being the longest studio album (apart from the epic Nostradamus) doesn't help either, most of the tracks could have sounded better with a tighter pace, and some could have been dropped altogether. Nine out of the thirteen songs are over five minutes long and usually just repeat the same stuff all over again, which not exactly an ideal combination. Crude language is prominent, something not often heard from Halford-era Priest. But Lost and Found is a good ballad, one of the few tracks here to have a proper melody and to show the actual capability of Owens, and Machine Man is an acceptable piece of straightforward speed metal, although like the other songs on this album, it could have too been a little shorter. Close to You is good as well, hits my weakness for power ballads. Overall this is the least favorite of Priest albums to me, but I'm sure this one has it's fans as well... Edited at: Sunday, January 30, 2011 6:28:26 PM
[Nupe The Ripper] Sunday, January 30, 2011 4:12:07 PM
Oh, and one more thing. If you want a better-quality full-length bootleg for Japan '78 to supplement the shortness of Genocide, I suggest the Nagoya 1978 one. It's a very good audience recording for that era, almost sounds like the soundboard ones found on Genocide. Certainly much better than Red Hot Tokyo.
[Nupe The Ripper] Sunday, January 30, 2011 2:18:59 PM
Priestfan, could you give a working link for that Sweden show? The only ones I found were dead...
I can now proudly say that I have the only bootleg available from the Sin After Sin Tour, The Palladium July 16 1977 show. The quality is quite bad, so it's there more because of the historical value. I also got a Turbo era bootleg, from 17th October 1986 in Essen, Germany. It's very good for an audience recording, I strongly suggest this one until better ones can be found.
I also created a package that contains all of the 11 songs from Obey Their Law in high quality. Basically I took the 10 HQ songs already available, and then fiddled around with the EQ and volume levels of the lower-quality Green Manalishi so it now fits with the rest of the tracks better. There's a minor crack at the start of it, but the rest should be perfect.
For some reason there's no tracklisting included with the Essen bootleg, and the file names don't tell you anything either. Here's the list I made by listening to the songs:
CD 1
1. Out in the Cold
2. Locked In
3. Heading Out to the Highway
4. Metal Gods
5. Breaking the Law
6. Love Bites
7. Some Heads Are Gonna Roll
8. The Sentinel
9. Private Property
10. Rock You All Around the World
CD 2
1. The Hellion/Electric Eye
2. Turbo Lover
3. Parental Guidance
4. Freewheel Burning
5. Victim of Changes (!)
6. The Green Manalishi
7. Living After Midnight
8. You've Got Another Thing Comin'
9. Hell Bent for Leather
As you can see it's pretty much the basic '86 tour stuff you can get from Priest...Live! and some remasters. The only one to really stand out is Victim of Changes, the first time I've heard it's '86 version. A must-have for any collector. Edited at: Sunday, January 30, 2011 2:21:53 PM
[Nupe The Ripper] Sunday, January 30, 2011 8:20:08 AM
Part 2 of my bootleg suggestions:
Screaming for Vengeance era Obey Their Law (thanks Maple Syrup for pointing this out)
Recorded at the Hemisfair Arena Convention Center, San Antonio, USA on 10.09.1982 (tracks 1-11) (mislabeled as 28th, Rob clearly states that they're in San Antonio and it was on the 10th when they played there) and Mid-South Coliseum, Memphis, USA on 12.12.1982 (tracks 12 and 13) 1. The Hellion/Electric Eye
2. Riding on the Wind
3. Metal Gods
4. Bloodstone
5. Breaking the Law
6. Heading Out to the Highway
7. You've Got Another Thing Comin'
8. Screaming for Vengeance
9. Living After Midnight
10. The Green Manalishi
11. Hell Bent for Leather
12. Diamonds and Rust
13. The Green Manalishi
Pros: Very good to excellent sound quality. An alternative to the Live Vengeance '82 DVD, if you don't want to rip the tracks from it.
Cons: Tracks 12 and 13 can be found as better versions on the Live Vengeance '82 DVD. The Hellion/Electric Eye can be found on Metalogy Disc 2. Also, this has only 11 tracks compared to the 14 usually played during this era. The sound tends to be a bit hollow at some points.
Available formats: 192 and 320 kbps MP3. Can be found as mislabeled as a 1983 recording, with The Green Manalishi and the Memphis tracks missing, but with superior quality.
Defenders of the Faith era Long Beach 1984/Live Long Beach, California 5.5.1984/ABC Defenders/Defenders of Long Beach/California Burning (compilation with other tracks as well)
Recorded at Long Beach Arena, Long Beach, 05.05.1984 in association with ABC Rock Network. As can be seen from above, it's being shared under multiple titles, but all are from the same concert.
1. Interview with Rob Halford
2. Love Bites
3. Jawbreaker
4. Grinder
5. Metal Gods
6. Breaking the Law
7. Sinner
8. Desert Plains
9. Some Heads Are Gonna Roll
10. The Sentinel
11. Rock Hard Ride Free
12. Night Comes Down
13. The Hellion/Electric Eye
14. Heavy Duty/Defenders of the Faith
15. Freewheel Burning
16. Victim of Changes
There's many versions of this track listing available, some omitting the interview, while at least one version (Califonia Burning) is missing the tracks 11 and 12.
Pros: One of the longest bootlegs with 15 different tracks. Almost perfect sound quality if you manage to find a good version.
Cons: Varying sound quality between different versions, some are taken from the FM broadcast and have errors, while some seem to be straight from the soundboard/FM master tape. I'll recommend either the California Burning, or if you want the whole concert, here's a good one as well: http://mp3asi.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=18989, however this one doesn't have the interview in it. Tracks 3, 4, 11, 12 and 14 can be found on the Remasters as well.
Available formats: 160 and 256 kbps MP3
Ram It Down era
Electric Eye: Live in New Haven 1988
Recorded at the New Haven Coliseum, New Haven, USA on 07.08.1988
1. The Hellion/Electric Eye
2. Metal Gods
3. Sinner
4. Breaking the Law
5. Come and Get It
6. I'm a Rocker
7. Some Heads Are Gonna Roll
8. Turbo Lover
9. Ram It Down
10. Heavy Metal
11. Living After Midnight
12. Hell Bent for Leather
13. Victim of Changes
14. The Green Manalishi
Pros: Excellent sound quality with no cracks or distortion. Rare live tracks from the Ram It Down album. Last tour with Dave Holland, I think that deserves a mention.
Cons: The sound volume is a bit silent, so you'll have to crank it up to hear the tracks properly. The sound might be a bit hollow at some points. If you don't like Ram It Down then this is not your record.
Available formats: 320 kbps MP3, lossless FLAC
Painkiller era
The Complete Painkiller Tour
Recorded at the Foundations Forum, Los Angeles, USA on 13.09.1990 (disc 1) and Stadthalle, Offenbach, Germany on 18.02.1991 (disc 2)
Disc 1 1. Riding on the Wind
2. Grinder
3. Heading Out to the Highway
4. Metal Gods
5. Sinner
6. Between the Hammer and the Anvil
7. Bloodstone
8. Better by You, Better Than Me
9. Ram It Down
10. Heavy Metal
11. Victim of Changes
12. The Green Manalishi
13. Leather Rebel
14. Hell Bent for Leather
15. You've Got Another Thing Coming
16. Living After Midnight
Disc 2
1. Hell Bent for Leather
2. Grinder
3. The Hellion/Electric Eye
4. All Guns Blazing
5. The Sentinel
6. Metal Gods
7. Night Crawler
8. The Ripper
9. Beyond the Realms of Death
10. Riding on the Wind
11. Victim of Changes
12. Painkiller
13. The Green Manalishi
14. Breaking the Law
15. Living After Midnight
16. You've Got Another Thing Comin'
Pros: A good compilation of pretty much all the songs Priest played on the Painkiller Tour. Disc 1 is of very good quality, with some distortion at the loudest parts (probably this was recorded with a bit too much volume).
Cons: Disc 1 contains only two tracks from Painkiller, while Disc 2 is an audience recording and suffers from it greatly - if you don't want these German tracks, simply don't download the Part 3 of this package (Part 2 has Living After Midnight from the first disc, the rest being the first half of the German show). Better by You, Better Than Me and Leather Rebel can be found on the Remasters. Disc 1's Metal Gods, Sinner, Ram It Down, Heavy Metal and Victim of Changes are actually from the New Haven '88 bootleg, bringing the total amount of actual 1990 songs to 11. There's quite a bit of distortion at the loudest parts of the tracks.
Available formats: 192 kbps MP3
All of the boots I've mentioned in these two posts can be found at the addressess I mentioned at the bottom of my first review post (except for Red Hot Tokyo and the full, good-quality version of Long Beach '84, for which I gave you the link).
I'm not much interested in bootlegs of the Ripper Years or the second Halford era, so I'm not going to review any of them. There's more than enough official live material from them.
As you can see I haven't found any bootlegs at all for the Sin After Sin or Turbo eras. I know that the Kiel Auditorium show from '86 is recorded and found as bootleg, and there's also some tracks from a '77 New York show, but I haven't found them yet. Any help in finding them would be much appreciated.
[Nupe The Ripper] Saturday, January 29, 2011 8:34:31 PM
Here's a quite comprehensive list of what bootlegs I've found the most appealing, ordered by the year they're from. Split in two posts, the other part will follow up eventually.
Rocka Rolla/Sad Wings of Destiny era:
The Ripper
Recorded at the Reading Festival, UK on 22.08.1975 (tracks 1-7) and Slough College, London, UK on 11.10.1975 (tracks 8-11)
1. Victim of Changes
2. Dreamer Deceiver
3. Deceiver
4. The Ripper
5. Mother Sun (dubbed "Father Mother Son" on the back cover)
6. Island of Domination
7. Rocka Rolla (mislabeled as Genocide because the intro is from it)
8. Victim of Changes
9. Dreamer Deceiver
10. Deceiver
11. The Ripper
Pros: Only full version of Mother Sun available (the Slough College one that's also in circulation is cut short at the end). Longer versions of The Ripper and Rocka Rolla. Long guitar solos by KK (Island of Domination) and Glenn (Rocka Rolla). A good compilation of the earliest known recorded Priest performances.
Cons: Quite poor sound quality, although you can't expect much from a 1975 audience recording, and for most of the time you can still hear the music pretty well. The Slough College recordings have improved quality, the audience being less prominent.
Available formats: 192 kbps MP3
Stained Class era: Genocide
Recorded at the Koseinenkin Hall, Tokyo, Japan on 31.07.1978(tracks 1-5) and Agora Ballroom, Cleveland, USA (tracks 6-8) on 07.05.1978
1. White Heat, Red Hot
2. Victim of Changes
3. Beyond the Realms of Death
4. Genocide
5. Tyrant
6. White Heat, Red Hot
7. Starbreaker
8. Beyond the Realms of Death
Pros: Excellent sound quality, there's very little distortion. The bass is a little more pronounced than on most other records, but it's only makes the tracks sound better. You just can't get a better non-pro record from this era. Genocide has some extra guitar work in it, extending the length to almost 14 minutes!
Cons: Quite short, with only five new tracks (you can hear at the start of the Koseinenkin version of White Heat that they had played at least Exciter before that, but the other tracks don't seem to have gotten on a record). The Cleveland tracks have already been officially released (and sound better) on Priest, Live & Rare (and the singles of which the tracks were taken from), so they're of little value if you already have that compilation.
Available formats: 128 and 320 kbps MP3
The missing tracks can be supplemented with this: Red Hot Tokyo
Possibly a TV recording, so don't expect good quality. It doesn't even contain any tracks that have never been heard live before, other than the short intro that was played at the start of each show. Get this if you want the whole concert, but be warned that the quality isn't very good. Available as both 128 and 320kbps MP3.
Hell Bent for Leather era: New York 1979
Alternative cover: The Palladium 1979
Recorded at the Palladium Theater, New York, USA on 04.11.1979
1. Hell Bent for Leather
2. Delivering the Goods
3. Running Wild
4. The Ripper
5. Beyond the Realms of Death
6. Diamonds and Rust
7. White Heat, Red Hot
8. Sinner
9. Green Manalishi
10. Victim of Changes
11. Genocide
12. Starbreaker
13. Take on the World
14. Tyrant
Pros: Excellent sound quality, with only minor cracks and drops in volume. Live version of Take on the World, at the start of the song Rob claims that 1980 will be the year of heavy metal. How correctly can someone predict things! A great alternative for Unleashed In the East, being 100% live.
Cons: Well, most of the tracks are already available on Unleashed. Rob's vocals also tend to be drowned out at some points.
Available formats: 128 (the first one) and 320 kbps MP3, lossless FLAC (both the latter one).
British Steel era
British Steeler
Recorded at the Calderone Hall, New York, USA on 07.07.1980, incorrectly labeled as July 5th on the back cover, or then this is from the Nassau Coliseum show instead
1. Hell Bent for Leather
2. The Ripper
3. Running Wild
4. Living After Midnight
5. Sinner
6. Beyond the Realms of Death
7. You Don't Have to Be Old to Be Wise
8. The Grinder
9. Victim of Changes
10. Steeler
11. Genocide
12. Tyrant
13. The Green Manalishi
Pros: Sound quality varies from very good to excellent, especially on the FLAC version. The best British Steel-era bootleg freely available (the Denver record has had it's bass guitar boosted too much in my opinion). Contains You Don't Have to Be Old to Be Wise and Steeler, tracks not so often played live.
Cons: The drums tend to drown out occasionally. Also, there's some distortion in the first few songs.
Available formats: 320 kbps MP3, lossless FLAC
Point of Entry era Breaking the Law
Recorded at the Universal Amphitheater, Chicago, USA on 21.06.1981
1. Solar Angels
2. Heading Out to the Highway
3. Diamonds and Rust
4. Troubleshooter
5. Breaking the Law
6. Sinner
7. Beyond the Realms of Death
8. Grinder
9. Hot Rockin'
10. You Don't Have to Be Old to Be Wise
11. Victim of Changes
12. The Green Manalishi
13. Hell Bent for Leather
14. Living After Midnight
Pros: Excellent sound quality, only the occasional little distortion and slight hollowness of the drum sound. You can even hear Glenn clearly shouting at the crowd at some points, and in general his part in the backing vocals is more audible than usual. Rare cuts of Solar Angels and Troubleshooter.
Cons: The same version of Hot Rockin' is part of Priest, Live & Rare and the single where it was taken from, but it has been slightly edited for them (most notably Rob's speeches at the start and end). Other than that, I can't make up any other faults, the sound quality is so great and there's not too much PoE on it.
[Nupe The Ripper] Saturday, January 29, 2011 6:48:15 AM
Yeah, I downloaded it yesterday. It's quite neat for a '75 audience recording, and also contains some epic guitar solos from KK and Glenn. Mother Sun is a great track too, shame that they never recorded it officially. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Priestfan2010 from Friday, January 28, 2011 5:54:06 PM)
Priestfan2010 wrote:
Thanks for correcting me Phantom, I got my facts mixed up.
There's this interesting live bootleg called Live at Reading Festival from 1975. It contains some early versions of tunes from Sad Wings of Destiny and the song Mother Sun. At least that's what i believe the title is, I've never been able to find out for sure. It's pretty neat though, you can find it on Youtube.
[Nupe The Ripper] Friday, January 28, 2011 8:31:35 AM
I personally don't like that bootleg, the audio quality isn't good in my opinion. It sounds like there is a stone wall between the band and the recorder, and most definitely it's not a soundboard recording as it is claimed to be, or then it's been very poorly preserved over the years. In addition, the audience is much too, well, audible. For example, you can hear almost nothing but the crowd clapping their hands at the start of Living After Midnight, and you can hear various random comments made by the crowd in just about every song, often drowning out the music. I'm definitely not burning this on CD, unless there's a much better version available. Even with bootlegs I still want at least decent sound quality, and this one is not that.
My favorite boot from the British Steel era is British Steeler, recorded at Calderone Hall in New York on the 7th July 1980 (the record notes claim its from the 5th of July, but they played at the Nassau Coliseum that day instead. Or then the venue info is wrong) [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Maple Syrup from Friday, January 28, 2011 5:56:33 AM)
Maple Syrup wrote:
Priest fan you need more insight in some boots like this:
[Nupe The Ripper] Wednesday, January 26, 2011 4:22:34 PM
Well, I used to think myself that I'll never download bootlegs, but then I found this:
It has soundboard recordings (ie. excellent sound quality) from Japan and Cleveland '78, and includes rare live versions of "Beoynd the Realms of Death" and "White Heat, Red Hot", tracks not so often found on official albums. The site where I got this has many, many others available as well, probably from every single tour Priest has ever done. I'm currently in the process of looking for some quality bits there, and there seems to be quite many of them. I'm not posting any links here, but I can always hit a PM at you, if you want.
[Nupe The Ripper] Sunday, January 23, 2011 2:30:34 PM
Excellent! I thought that there was something strange about their announcement...just how badly did we misinterpret their message!? ANd even then it took a couple of days to understand that Priest will still keep on going after 2012! It all makes sense now: the guys are already well in their sixties, so they might not have the stamina to tour around excessively anymore, but they've still got the urge to produce some excellent Priest-style heavy metal! While it's a little sad that I might not see them playing in Finland anymore after this year, at least they won't quit permanently yet!
A new album with which we can push our stereo systems to the limit (and beoynd!) in 2012 or 2013! You heard it here first! Edited at: Sunday, January 23, 2011 2:35:23 PM
[Nupe The Ripper] Saturday, January 22, 2011 8:28:41 PM
Yeah it's a great show, got mine on the Live Vengeance '82 DVD. Shows Priest around the time when they were at their best (the early- to mid-Eighties, in my opinion).
[Nupe The Ripper] Saturday, January 22, 2011 8:25:10 PM
Duh! I seem to have missed this topic, despite running wild around the forum for quite some time!
I'm an IT student from Finland who is about to turn 20 this year. I've only listened Priest for around four years, but during that time I've really gotten into the band. In fact, this is the only band I've ever been a real fan of! Currently I own most of the "official" Priest stuff available: all of the Halford-era albums & DVDs (except for the British Steel 30th Anniversary), but only one Ripper-era CD (Demolition). I will eventually get all of the CDs and DVDs available when I've got the money for it, but as I'm a student my resources are very limited. The place where I've purchased most of my stuff (and will purchase the rest of it as well) is actually endorsed by Priest, as can be seen when following the links on the British Steel 30th Anniversary purchase page.
Regarding other merchandise, I have very little of it: only a "Screaming For Vengeance/Keep the Faith" t-shirt I bought from their latest Finnish concert in June 2008 - the only Priest concert I've so far been at, given my rather short time of following the band. It's gotten a little small on me, but I'm currently in process of getting rid of a few kilos so I can wear it next summer when Priest make their last performance in Finland. I've also got posters of the British Steel and Nostradamus album covers and a coffee mug with the Priest logo on it, but they're not official merch and have instead been made by a digital photo company where one can order all kinds of stuff based on photos.
Recently I also bought an electric guitar and an amplifier, as a local department store sold them very cheaply (got the whole package for 100 euros!). While it's a cheap one and doesn't sound nearly as good as a brand-name guitar, it gets the job done for a newbie guitarist like me. Currently I can play, at least to some extent, the following tracks: Grinder, Living After Midnight, Breaking the Law, Metal Gods and Heading Out to the Highway. I've only played the rhythm patterns so far and haven't tried the solos much, apart from Heading Out to the Higway where I can play at least some version of a solo (a simplified one from the original dual guitar solo).
Around these forums I want to share my opinions on Priest and perhaps try to get some new informaion as well!
[Nupe The Ripper] Saturday, January 22, 2011 7:34:43 PM
Well, the nearby department store had a clearance sale, where one could pick any three CDs, movies, or games three for the price of two, with the cheapest one of the three items given free of charge. So, I picked two CDs and a video game. The other one of the CDs was Demolition, which is quite a rare find in a non-specialist store (there was also Metal Works '73-'93 there, but with my current budget, I can't afford purchasing albums where all of the songs I already have on the other Priest albums). In addition, it was the cheapest one of the three products I chose, so I got it for free. Although I personally don't like that album very much, at least I got it for free!
[Nupe The Ripper] Saturday, January 22, 2011 5:13:28 PM
So, what do you think the guys of Priest will do after they've played the final concert of the Epitaph tour? Unless they go to the studio to record one final album, here's what I think will happen:
Halford: This is easy to think of, he'll continue with his solo project for a few years more until he thinks he's too old.
Tipton: Might make a solo album or two and then retire, or he might retire immediately after the tour is finished (after all, he's the oldest member of the band, turning 65 in 2012).
Downing: A hard one to think of. He hasn't released any solo albums, and so far hasn't declared any interest on making one. He could collaborate with Tipton and make an album with him, but most likely he'll just retire.
Hill: Another tricky one. Again, might collaborate with other Priest members, but might as well retire.
Travis: Another easy one, concentrates on Racer X again, the band probably gets more active when Travis is no longer occupied with Priest duties.
[Nupe The Ripper] Saturday, January 22, 2011 5:11:31 AM
Tottakai ollaan, ja liputhan varataan heti kun yhden päivän liput tulevat myyntiin. Opiskelijabudjetilla kun ei ole oikein varaa koko kolmen päivän festareihin.
[Nupe The Ripper] Thursday, January 06, 2011 3:32:03 PM
I first heard a Priest song back in 2003 while playing on a Playstation. As most of you could probably guess, it was GTA Vice City and "You've Got Another Thing Comin'". I only had defined my music taste earlier that year when I discovered Uriah Heep and Deep Purple from my father's CD archive, so I started with some of the pioneers of hard rock and metal. Therefore, it was only natural for me to pick the rock station as my favorite when I played Vice City. While the Priest song definitely stood out of the rest of the songs on the station, I was still too much into UH and DP, and my focus was on acquiring at least a small part of their extensive catalogue.
In fact, it wasn't until 2006 that I started to look for other bands. For the first time in my life, I had gotten myself a computer of my own with Internet capabilities (my previous ones didn't have an Internet connection). This improved my capabilites of finding more music greatly (my taste being limited to the traditional style of hard rock and metal, it was very difficult to find other bands that suited me from other media). Uriah Heep's material was mostly too much progressive rock and Purple's material felt a little "soft", so I started look for other bands to fill the gap. And because I knew only a little about other similar bands (Iron Maiden and Metallica weren't quite what I was looking for), I decided to look for the bands that were featured in Vice City. So I tested each of them out.
I honestly admit that I pirated a couple of tracks from each of the bands, including the songs that were in the game. The Judas Priest songs that I downloaded (in addition to You've Got Another Thing Comin') were Hellrider, Revolution, Painkiller and Jawbreaker. From the bands I had downloaded, Priest definitely felt the best. A few months later (after pirating some more songs, I'm willing to admit that), I started to buy Priest's records. The rest is history.
[Nupe The Ripper] Thursday, January 06, 2011 11:31:40 AM
It's a bit sad that only the second Priest concert I'm about to see myself in Finland will also be their last. It was so great to be at their 2008 Helsinki concert, especially when it was the first concert of that tour!
Unfortunately the Screaming for Vengeance t-shirt I bought from there doesn't fit on me anymore - but hey, what would be a better reason to drop a few pounds than to be able to wear my favorite band's clothing at their very last concert in my home country?
[Nupe The Ripper] Wednesday, January 05, 2011 3:35:49 AM
Yes, I'm aware of that many of the Turbo sessions' bonus tracks were released on the 2001-2002 remasters. I merely mentioned the ones that were listed in the book but haven't been released. A total of 18 songs were recorded in 1985, with six of the discarded songs being named: Red White and Blue, All Fired Up, and Prisoner of your Eyes have been released on the remasters and Heart of a Lion on Metalogy. Hard as Iron and Love You to Death are mentioned as having been originally meant for Turbo, but were re-recorded and put on Ram It Down instead. Fire Burns Below and Thunder Road might originate from the Turbo era as well.
The same biography also mentioned that Priest recorded some material for the upcoming Screaming for Vengeance at Ibiza in September-October '81, but they eventually rejected those recordings and started from scratch. A 1982 Kerrang! interview with Rob Halford is quoted as "We've recorded seven songs and as usual we'll be aiming for a total of 10. The material is varied: some of the songs are as intricate as Sin After Sin and Stained Class, others are as raw and as primitive as British Steel and there are those that are in the style of Point of Entry...It'll pobably be the heaviest thing we've put out...We go back to the studios at the beginning of the year. How much of those eventually rejected Ibiza sessions made it to the final album is unknown.
There's surely at least one or two unreleased songs from each album's sessions - none have been released from the Sin After Sin sessions (Race WIth the Devil having been recorded at the Stained Class sessions), only the aforementioned track from the Stained Class sessions, nothing from the Killing Machine, British Steel or Point of Entry sessions, only Fight for Your Life (aka demo-Rock Hard Ride Free) from the Screaming for Vengeance sessions, nothing from the Defenders of the Faith sessions (despite taking a very long time to record), but then there's a load of stuff from the Turbo and Ram It Down sessions (apart from the songs I mentioned in my previous post). And finally, Painkiller has a bonus track from it's own sessions, so there might or might not be more. Around before Priest...Live! was released, the band actually thought of releasing a double album, with the other disc consisting of unreleased studio material and the other from live stuff, but they eventually made it into a double live album instead. And, as Maple Syrup correctly noted, Priest recorded three tracks in 1987 with pop producers Stock-Aitken-Waterman (who produced Rick Astley among others), but after the harsh criticism they faced after Turbo, they left the tracks unreleased (as Glenn Tipton said in '88: "we can't afford to release anything that's not Priest right now").
Oh, and the Gull Records remark in my previous post was meant for the Mother Sun song, I originally meant to just edit it in.
[Nupe The Ripper] Tuesday, January 04, 2011 5:14:45 PM
I failed to edit my post in time, so if it's okay I'll post another message:
Well, the unofficial Priest biography by Neil Daniels does state quite a few song titles that haven't still seen the daylight, although it is clearly stated that they've been recorded at some point. At least "Fight For Your Love" and "Under the Gun" are mentioned as tracks from the Turbo sessions alone, and there's probably many more given that Turbo was originally meant to be a double album, and not all of the songs on Ram It Down originate from those days. And there's no doubt that the other studio sessions from '77 all the way to the present day have a lot of leftover material as well.
Sadly, the chances of getting one are probably nil because if it was ever recorded in the first place, it has happened during the Gull years. And as far as I know all of the Gull-era demos are still Gull Records' property, and they probably won't give them back to Priest easily. The only Gull-era demo that has so far been officially released is the well-known 1975 studio version of Diamonds & Rust found on practically every reissue of Rocka Rolla. If Gull Records wants to cash in by releasing the same material from the first two JP albums over and over again under different titles, then why couldn't they be useful for a change and release the 1974-76 demos? I'm sure there's plenty of unreleased songs and alternative versions of more familiar ones. It would probably sell quite nicely though.
[Nupe The Ripper] Tuesday, January 04, 2011 4:12:17 PM
I'd love an official version of Mother Sun, if they ever recorded it in studio, that is. Listening to a sub-par bootleg from YouTube makes we wan't to hear a "proper" version of this!
[Nupe The Ripper] Friday, December 31, 2010 8:24:12 PM
While the band might or might not read these messages, I'm still posting this message as if I was writing for them.
So, it seems that the career of the Metal Gods, at least as a band (you probably will still continue with some solo projects), is going to end. I've been a fan for a mere four years - which is an extremely short time given the length of your career - but during that time I've become more and more assured that you've been the No.1 metal band of all time, and, quite frankly, the only band I've really been a fan of (and to have purchased the complete discography!). Without you, there probably wouldn't be Iron Maiden, Metallica or any of the other world-famous metal bands. Metal would probably be a marginal style of music. Instead, it's now generally accepted as one of the main genres, which is undoubtedly a result of your relentless effort and influence on the music style. It's a shame that you never quite reached the top, although when looking at your 80's performances on DVD, I find no reason why you shouldn't have! But, all good things must come to an end, and I fully understand that you want do do something different for a change - especially for Ian and K.K., who have been in the band for 40 years straight (not forgetting Glenn and Rob, of course)! It's a shame that you didn't get to work with Scott Travis for a much longer time, he's proved himself to be more than a good drummer!
I fell in love with your music because you could change it so much between different albums, but still keeping that certain sound that separated you from the other popular metal bands. For example, when I first heard "Nostradamus", I could instantly tell that it was still the old Priest back there, somewhat modernized but still keeping in line with the traditional style of metal. No other band with such a long career has so succesfully managed to adapt to the modern times. That is not to say that I don't like your older records, oh no: I like them even more than the newer ones!
Because of my rather young age (having been born a year after Painkiller was released), and not being a fan of the band before late '06, I have seen you perform live just once, at the 2008 Helsinki concert, something I won't ever forget! I'll definitely do everything in my power (and perhaps a little more) to be at Tampere this year, when you will perform your ninth (unless I've done a serious miscalculation) and, most likely, final concert in Finland. You will undoubtedly deliver the goods, ride on the wind and rock to the dawn.
If possible, as a final effort, you could collect any unreleased songs you still have in your possession (which you undoubtedly do have), and release them in connection with the last world tour or after it. The bonus tracks featured on the remasters were so good that I was only left wondering if there was more of them!
While you might stop touring and releasing new material, your music will rock forever. Farewell, Metal Gods.
[Nupe The Ripper] Thursday, November 25, 2010 8:58:55 AM
Vaikka edellisestä viestistä on kulunut jo yli vuosi, voisin korjata vähän Doctor807:n virhekäsitystä siitä, että japseja olisi lellitty bonusraitojen suhteen A Touch of Evilillä. Kyseiset raidathan voi kuka tahansa kuunnella Rising in the East-DVD:ltä. Toki jos niitä haluaa luukuttaa stereoilla niin sitten on vähän hankalampaa (paitsi jos DVD-soitin on kytketty stereoihin, kuten allekirjoittaneella).
Tänään tuli muuten viimein saatua Priest-kokelma valmiiksi, kun rahatilanne salli eilen koko loppukataloogin tilaamisen. Priest...Live soi juuri nyt stereoista.
Ei voi levykaupan jannuja hitaasta lähetyksestä syyttää, kun tilaukset tulivat näin nopeasti perille. Vielä puuttuu British Steel-DVD, mutta sekin vain koska oli tilapäisesti loppu (saan sen heti kun levykauppa saa varastojaan täytettyä). Edited at: Thursday, November 25, 2010 9:01:24 AM Edited at: Thursday, November 25, 2010 9:01:44 AM
[Nupe The Ripper] Sunday, July 12, 2009 12:13:22 PM
On se hyvä kun on vihjaissut lempibändistään perheelle, nyt sain 18-vuotislahjaksi Judas Priest-kahvimukin ja Nostradamus-julisteen. Sitten ostin vielä itse British Steel- ja Screaming for Vengeance-CD:t
[Nupe The Ripper] Saturday, March 14, 2009 2:50:29 PM
Toisaalta tuo 40 vuotta riippuu täysin siitä, että mistä kohtaa alkaa laskemaan vuosia. Oma laskentani alkaa niinkin myöhään kuin 1974, jolloin Glenn Tipton saapui bändiin ja legendaarinen nelikko saatiin kasaan. Eli minulle bändi on "vasta" 35-vuotias. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by doctor807 from Tuesday, January 06, 2009 11:58:14 PM)
doctor807 wrote:
Hyvää uutta vuotta kaikille Priest faneille. On aika katsoa mitä tuleva vuosi tuo. En ole selvännäkijä mutta kyllä Judas Priest voittaa Grammyn. Mutta kokoelmalevy tulee aivan varmasti koska Priest täyttää 40 vuotta ONNEKSI OLKOON!
Jos sitä kokoelmalevyä ei tule tänä vuonna minä aion syödä piponi.
Tässä taisi mennä pari vuotta etten käynyt täällä ollenkaan, kun osa porukastakin vaikuttaa ihan vierailta... Enpä ole näitä viestejäkään lukenut vähään aikaan.
Olikos moni täältä kattomassa Priestiä viime kesänä?
[Nupe The Ripper] Sunday, June 15, 2008 11:42:19 AM
Scorppareista tulee minulle mieleeni lähinnä albumi Love at First Sting ja sen kappaleet Still Loving You ja Rock you Like a Hurricane. Hienoja biisejä, varsinkin ensimmäinen.