To all of our wonderful friends in Japan, my thoughts and prayers are with you during this tragedy. Please let us know that you are well when you can. Doll
Priest on American Idol? I understand from a fellow "Sinful" chick that one of the contestants sang "You've Got Another Thing Coming" and I missed it. :( Hope they show it again. I'd like to see it. Hope everyone is doing well.
Hugs,
Doll
[HalfordsDoll] Thursday, February 17, 2011 6:01:15 PM
You're kidding...just one! This will be difficult but I'll give it a try.
1. Rocka Rolla
2. Victim of Changes
3. Last Rose of Summer or Here Come The Tears
4. Stained Class
5. Evil Fantasies
6. Steeler
7. Desert Plains
8. Pain and Pleasure
9. Love Bites
10. Out In The Cold
11. Blood Red Skies
12. Night Crawler
13. Worth Fighting For
14. Anything from Nostro
[HalfordsDoll] Sunday, December 19, 2010 5:20:06 PM
Haven't been here in such a long time. Hope you all are well. Went to see Halford twice this year. Would have gone to the San Diego show if it would have been scheduled sooner. I know we will ALL be going to see Priest next year. I need dates! Have to start planning vacation. Time off from work doesn't come too easy for me. Take care and hugs! Doll
[HalfordsDoll] Wednesday, August 25, 2010 6:06:49 PM
Lovely photo Healer!
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO THE METAL GOD! Hope it was fabulous! Love you! Doll [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Healer from Wednesday, August 25, 2010 4:05:29 PM)
[HalfordsDoll] Thursday, September 03, 2009 5:41:04 PM
Oh my...I haven't been here in ages. I am sorry I have neglected to drop in. I wanted to say hi to everyone. I know you are all excited about the upcoming tour. I wish you all the best and hope you are all well. Hugs, Doll Edited at: Thursday, September 03, 2009 5:41:27 PM
[HalfordsDoll] Saturday, August 29, 2009 6:56:10 PM
OMG! You all are lifesavers. Gals AND Guys!!! Thank you ever so much. I think I actually have this book, but I haven't looked at it in ages! I had no idea it was in there. Big hugs and kisses!!! You guys and gals rock! Doll [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by spapad from Friday, August 28, 2009 9:00:31 PM)
Hi Joe! I hope you feel better soon. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by joedraper from Friday, August 28, 2009 3:41:14 AM)
joedraper wrote:
Oh my dear, precious friends! Thank you for giving me a reason to smile this morning!
I managed to drag myself out of bed and check out the noticeboard and wow! Sinful was definitely a reason to do so lol. No way can a girl bypass this thread lol.
With this crappy flu I'm in a very irritable mood but this here thread takes care of all those crappy feelings.. Any chance of mustering up some pics of a certain drummer to get me through the day? Might just kick start my immune into doing what its supposed to be doing lol. Haven't been to the gym in a week or gotten on my bike and I'm going mental! Even had to cancel my drumming lesson so I need cheering up lol.
Okay all you "sinful" gals. I need your assistance...where can I find the actual sheet music for "The Last Rose of Summer"? I need it by next Tuesday. I'm getting my tattoo and want the musical notes, not the lyrics, but the notes to the melody. All help is appreciated. Hugs and hope you all are having a beautiful Friday! Doll
[HalfordsDoll] Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:33:44 PM
I need help. I am getting my FIRST tattoo next week. I need the musical NOTES to Priest's "Last Rose of Summer". Does anyone know where I can find the sheet music? I have looked everywhere. Since that song is a deeper cut, it has been difficult locating it. Thanks! Doll
[HalfordsDoll] Tuesday, August 25, 2009 7:37:19 PM
Hey! I think that's the photo I took in either San Antonio or Las Vegas last year. LOL! I remember specifically telling Judas Priestess that I need a nice a$$ and balls shot.
Here is a photo from my hometown last year. He decided to smash cake all over his face in San Antonio. It was a beautiful scene. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by momo from Tuesday, August 25, 2009 7:33:11 PM)
[HalfordsDoll] Thursday, August 20, 2009 10:08:07 PM
He gives fabulous hugs. Nice and cozy. His beard tickled my shoulder. What a sweety. Well, I'm off to Bedfordshire. Nighty night ladies and sweet dreams and thanks for all the wonderful pics. Hugs! Dolly [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Becks from Thursday, August 20, 2009 10:01:28 PM)
Becks wrote:
Meeeee! hehehe. I bet he gives awesome hugs
I will never, EVER, get sick of the Halford pout! OMG yum.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Gotta love Rob's big arms... who wants a hug from Mr. Halford??
[HalfordsDoll] Thursday, August 20, 2009 10:06:11 PM
i really have to hit the sack. I have to do some presentations tomorrow morning. I won't be able to sleep as it is from viewing all of these glorious photos!
[HalfordsDoll] Thursday, August 20, 2009 9:59:23 PM
Yikes! Why can't we be her? I'd be a step stool for him. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Thursday, August 20, 2009 9:54:37 PM)
[HalfordsDoll] Thursday, August 20, 2009 9:54:27 PM
Quite right. As a matter of fact, I can't resist any of them. However, Mr. H. takes precedence. Tee hee. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Thursday, August 20, 2009 9:53:21 PM)
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Not to worry. No one can resist the Metal God!!
HalfordsDoll wrote:
I wish I were the microphone cord...ugh...I'm unbelievably silly tonight. Sorry about that ladies.
[HalfordsDoll] Thursday, August 20, 2009 9:53:11 PM
Ha ha! I haven't logged in for a while, I don't want to offend anyone. I suppose I should watch what I think, uh type, uh feel...you get what I mean. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Becks from Thursday, August 20, 2009 9:51:43 PM)
Becks wrote:
Hahaha! You're just saying what I'm already thinking, I wish I were the microphone cord too! LOL!
HalfordsDoll wrote:
I wish I were the microphone cord...ugh...I'm unbelievably silly tonight. Sorry about that ladies.
[HalfordsDoll] Thursday, August 20, 2009 9:50:54 PM
I wish I were the microphone cord...ugh...I'm unbelievably silly tonight. Sorry about that ladies. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Thursday, August 20, 2009 9:49:54 PM)
[HalfordsDoll] Thursday, August 20, 2009 9:48:54 PM
Oh yeah! Nice nightmarish dreams from this one. He seems so naughty here. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Thursday, August 20, 2009 9:47:37 PM)
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Haha...make sure you have him strapped down...quick! Before he gets away!!!!!
Becks wrote:
Ooooh he looks cheeky, he needs a good spanking!! I would gladly oblige in this undertaking
[HalfordsDoll] Thursday, August 20, 2009 9:47:51 PM
OMG! I won't be able to sleep tonight dreaming about this one. He certainly looked good. I love him. Thanks Vail!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Thursday, August 20, 2009 9:44:39 PM)
[HalfordsDoll] Thursday, August 20, 2009 9:41:15 PM
Hoo baby! Glenn and those red pants! I will miss them too. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Maple Syrup from Thursday, August 20, 2009 9:40:18 PM)
[HalfordsDoll] Thursday, August 20, 2009 9:40:35 PM
It's vintage. Just look at the hairstyles...especially the guy sitting in the background. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Thursday, August 20, 2009 9:36:28 PM)
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Really? Don't think I've ever seen it before. Good to know, though. Thanks, Maple!!
How are you doing?
Maple Syrup wrote:
Hi Vail! That shirt Ian is wearing is from Point of Entry. You can tell by the block letters of the Priest logo and the crossed guitars. MpleSyrp
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Here we have Ian drinking some beer and having a good time!!!!!! I wonder...what kind of Priest shirt is he wearing in this pic?
[HalfordsDoll] Thursday, August 20, 2009 9:39:16 PM
All I can say is DAAAYYYUUUMMM!!! Nice Nice crotch shot! LOL! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Thursday, August 20, 2009 9:15:42 PM)
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
...and here we have Rob and Glenn!
Awwww...I'm gonna miss those red pants when this tour is over.
[HalfordsDoll] Thursday, August 20, 2009 7:46:58 PM
This is a fabulous shot!!!! Thanks for sharing QT...I wish we could have met up in S.A. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by QT from Thursday, August 20, 2009 10:07:12 AM)
QT wrote:
My favorite picutre from Corpus Christi. Seems like it was ages ago....
yes. Need to get back in here more than once every three months. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Bev from Monday, August 17, 2009 9:41:24 PM)
Bev wrote:
Kinda like old times, eh? ((hugs)) from Bevy!
(Quoting Message by HalfordsDoll from Monday, August 17, 2009 9:39:53 PM)
HalfordsDoll wrote:
Nighty night all! Have a great week! That was fun! Hugs from Doll!
Now that's what I'm talking about!!! Liquid leather! What a nice way to end the day.You rock Bev! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Bev from Monday, August 17, 2009 9:37:14 PM)
hee hee! Oh no. It isn't anything bad. It was interesting to say the least, and the photo you posted of him on the bike reminded me. Very bizarre. I need to get some sleep too. This is busy time at work for me. UGH! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Bev from Monday, August 17, 2009 9:32:16 PM)
Bev wrote:
Here? Now? send it along via e, k?! ; ) It's been a long day for me, and I think I'm needin' to shut 'er down .... goin for that one last gem, brb.
HalfordsDoll wrote:
I surely do my dear. Oh that reminds me...I'll have to share my dream with you that inspired the poem.
Bev wrote:
Here ya go 'Doll! Your knight on a steel horse he rides ... oops, wrong band?! lol You get the meaning though, I'm sure
I still haven't recieved my tee shirt. Isn't there a Monday night Rob or Scotty or something like that on here now? I hope I'm not intruding with all the Halford photos. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Bev from Monday, August 17, 2009 9:29:26 PM)
I surely do my dear. Oh that reminds me...I'll have to share my dream with you that inspired the poem. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Bev from Monday, August 17, 2009 9:26:24 PM)
Bev wrote:
Here ya go 'Doll! Your knight on a steel horse he rides ... oops, wrong band?! lol You get the meaning though, I'm sure
Oh...thanks a lot Bev! Now I'll never sleep! Whew! I used to have blonde hair like that...tee hee! I guess I can use my imagination eh? [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Bev from Monday, August 17, 2009 9:18:45 PM)
Bev wrote:
I know ... I know Here's another treat to tempt you! Think it goes down in the Sinfully Delicious realm as legendary
HalfordsDoll wrote:
Oopsies...I think I hit the wrong frame. Well, you know which one I was aiming for.
LOL! I went with him into an adult video store which had lots of fun things...we found one that was just right. Yeah...for John Holmes! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Bev from Monday, August 17, 2009 9:15:47 PM)
Bev wrote:
I'm gettin' a visual!!! Thanks for sparing us!
HalfordsDoll wrote:
I didn't want to scare anyone with the lovely "appendage" that he was carrying around. You can just imagine. How are you this evening?
Bev wrote:
Look at 'Bobbit ... Your Man is too, too, funny 'Doll!!!
HalfordsDoll wrote:
A few pics from the Bob Party last Saturday night...
My friends impersonation of Robert Smith from the Cure and Bob Marley...oh look...Rob is in the background.
My hubby (you can figure out which famous BOB he is) and I...I do hope Rob forgives me for doing a very bad impersonation...
Oopsies...I think I hit the wrong frame. Well, you know which one I was aiming for. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Bev from Monday, August 17, 2009 9:12:45 PM)
OMG!!! That is so very lovely!!! Thank you for posting that...now I won't be able to go to sleep because I'll be dreaming about this picture all night long!!! He's close enough for me to plant my lips on that photo. Woo hoo! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Bev from Monday, August 17, 2009 9:08:42 PM)
Bev wrote:
Look at 'Bobbit ... Your Man is too, too, funny 'Doll!!!
HalfordsDoll wrote:
A few pics from the Bob Party last Saturday night...
My friends impersonation of Robert Smith from the Cure and Bob Marley...oh look...Rob is in the background.
My hubby (you can figure out which famous BOB he is) and I...I do hope Rob forgives me for doing a very bad impersonation...
I didn't want to scare anyone with the lovely "appendage" that he was carrying around. You can just imagine. How are you this evening? [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Bev from Monday, August 17, 2009 9:08:42 PM)
Bev wrote:
Look at 'Bobbit ... Your Man is too, too, funny 'Doll!!!
HalfordsDoll wrote:
A few pics from the Bob Party last Saturday night...
My friends impersonation of Robert Smith from the Cure and Bob Marley...oh look...Rob is in the background.
My hubby (you can figure out which famous BOB he is) and I...I do hope Rob forgives me for doing a very bad impersonation...
A few pics from the Bob Party last Saturday night...
My friends impersonation of Robert Smith from the Cure and Bob Marley...oh look...Rob is in the background.
My hubby (you can figure out which famous BOB he is) and I...I do hope Rob forgives me for doing a very bad impersonation...
I LOVE this pic! This is HOT!!! I wish I were KK!!! Woo hoo! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by momo from Monday, August 17, 2009 9:20:36 AM)
LOL! Thanks Bev. I WISH I looked as good as that model in the pics from the 70s and 80s! It's always fun. Robert Smith from The Cure was there as well as Kid Rock. I didn't know his first name is Robert. Robert Plant was a no show, but Bob Marley was there. I will post pics when my friend gets them to me. Thanks again! Hugs! Doll
The San Antonio show was a blast! It was definitely a night to remember. I will definitely NEVER forget it. The only downfall was that I forgot my cell phone at home so it was difficult for me to reach those that I needed to. However, Rob made up for it by remembering me ("Come here Doll"), giving me the BEST hug I've EVER had, and by being so gracious and sweet to my daughter and my good friend Melissa.
Watching Whitesnake with Bobby Jarzombek (drummer for Halford).
Lovely! Tonight's the night kiddos! Mara, Laurie, SueVicious, Doll, and Texas Priest all in the same city at once. YIKES! Crazy San Antonio fans! It's going to be a night to remember. Have a great day everyone! Hugs from Texas and Doll. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Friday, July 24, 2009 8:22:28 PM)
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
And now for some new pics!!! These ones were taken during the Cincinnati gig. Here's the link:
San Antonio roll call! Anyone here going to be there? Mara and Laurie...I'll see you tonight and tomorrow. It's going to be something special!
Sue...see you tomorrow!
Anyone else? You know you are all always welcome to come and stay here with me. LOL! We may have to camp out in the yard.
Hugs!
Doll
Yippee! They are coming to San Antonio! I was stressing for a while, but I knew they wouldn't pass us by! Thanks guys! Hope all are well in the "Sinful" thread. Take care and I'll chat with you later. Hugs! Doll
Very cool pics! Have been doing research to see where the boys will play when they come here. Especially since the Verizon Amphitheatre was sold to a church. GAG! I suppose they will have to play in my back yard! Woo hoo!
OMG! I love this interview! I totally remember this! He was pretty...uhm...er...lit? Is that the word? I watched this live and I have this DVD. It was actually a great performance by them. Check it out if you can. Live Aid 1985.
Hi "Becks" this is Becca. Very nice indeed. Thanks for posting that. I need to pull out all my Priest DVDs and check out all the scrumdillyumptiousness! Have a great evening everyone!
Hugs!
Doll [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Becks from Monday, March 30, 2009 1:25:43 AM)
Becks wrote:
I've never seen this video before LOL, the boys especially Rob look HOT! It's worth it for what you see at about the 3min52 second mark alone Edited at: Monday, March 30, 2009 1:36:06 AM
[HalfordsDoll] Thursday, March 12, 2009 1:12:47 PM
Hello everyone! I finally am able to use the computer after my illness. Just came in to see all the lovely photos. Funny, but this is one of mine. I took this in either San Antonio or the Vegas show. I remember specifically that Glenn was in the background. Nice. Good to see you Joe! Hope you are all well and will take care celebrating St. Patty's Day. Don't drink too many Guinness! Hugs! Doll [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by joedraper from Tuesday, March 10, 2009 2:34:47 PM)
[HalfordsDoll] Monday, February 09, 2009 5:26:32 PM
HE'S LOOKING FOR YOU! "WHERE IS SHE?" "OH! THERE SHE IS IN THE FRONT ROW!" [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Mara from Monday, February 09, 2009 9:47:15 AM)
[HalfordsDoll] Tuesday, January 13, 2009 9:45:12 PM
Okay, okay...one more...this is Naughty! Me like it! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by MG_Metalgoddess from Tuesday, January 13, 2009 6:07:44 PM)
[HalfordsDoll] Tuesday, January 13, 2009 9:43:54 PM
Oops! I missed this one. That is a sort of "X-rated" photo eh? [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by paperflowers from Tuesday, January 13, 2009 8:40:54 PM)
[HalfordsDoll] Thursday, December 04, 2008 9:57:26 PM
This is always a favorite! I loved the long slicked back look on him. That was a fantastic show! Thanks paperflowers! And the BLUE LIGHT! Yikes! Vaillant, you're awesome! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by paperflowers from Thursday, December 04, 2008 9:11:48 PM)
paperflowers wrote:
I like that one...he looks so regal.
Does that blue light special come with free UNH, delivery?
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Well, I gotta get off and do some homework, but before I go...here's one more pic of Rob!!!
[HalfordsDoll] Thursday, December 04, 2008 9:55:28 PM
To all Halford's ladies...this photo is just so F*CKING HOT! Don't you wish? UGH! He is so damn sexy in these photos. Thanks to Simon and Jerseys Halford Fanatic from the "Q".
[HalfordsDoll] Sunday, November 30, 2008 4:18:54 PM
I love him in that photo at the bottom. So young! That was when they opened up for Led Zeppelin I believe. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Sunday, November 30, 2008 1:50:05 PM)
[HalfordsDoll] Sunday, November 30, 2008 3:40:55 PM
Hee hee! So I got my answer from KK.
Rebecca Roberts, San Antonio:
Hi K.K.
I just wanted to let you know that I enjoyed your shows in San Antonio and Las Vegas. They were just fabulous! Your solo of "Sinner" was the best I have ever witnessed and I have seen Priest since...oh let me think...I guess it was "British Steel" back in 1980 at the Arena (no longer around) here in San Antonio. I also had the honour and privilege to meet the rest of the band this year. You were all so gracious. That was a wonderful thing to do...the VIP Meet and Greet.
My question has probably been asked before, but, don't you need an extra person on the tours? LOL! An "assistant to the assistant"? I could be the "towel girl" or the "leather polisher". Who wants all those men around?In all honesty and sincerity, after these shows, I have come away with such a wonderful feeling. It is this band which makes me happy and being able to still enjoy it after all these years, well, it is truly spectacular. Thank you for who you are and all that you do.
Hugs & much love.
Hi Rebecca. Thank you for your kind words and for your support over the years. I am sure that you would make the most efficient assistant but you know how it goes, anyway i am sure you are capable of much more prestigious duty's. We are hoping to return to the States next year so we will see you then.
[HalfordsDoll] Saturday, September 20, 2008 12:23:42 PM
Damn this man! HE'S A TEASE! I don't care if I don't have the right equipment (or is it that I lack the proper equipment? LOL!). Is it right for him to tease women? You can't tell me that he isn't flattered when Mara and I and whomever else, drool all over him in here, in person, etc.
Is it fair? NO I SAY! Okay...I'm on a rampage right now. Forgive me. It isn't as if you all haven't heard me say this before. I do love him so...UGH! Why? [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by KKsguitar from Friday, September 19, 2008 7:54:53 PM)
KKsguitar wrote:
I posted this on the Quorum, and it got good response.
~KKsguitar
[HalfordsDoll] Saturday, September 20, 2008 12:13:28 PM
Oh Jeanine! Thank you for posting this. However, it brings back all the wonderful memories. Time with all of you, time with Rob, and just a fantastic summer all around. I miss you all and I miss Rob. It's been difficult to even listen to Priest. I'm slowly coming back down to earth. LOL! Thanks again! HUGS! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Jeanine from Saturday, September 20, 2008 12:08:53 AM)
[HalfordsDoll] Saturday, September 20, 2008 12:10:21 PM
Wow! There are some beautiful photos here! Research pays off. You all have found some rare ones too! I love this! Thanks for posting all of these wonderful photos.
Doll
[HalfordsDoll] Thursday, September 18, 2008 9:08:41 PM
Hello everyone! I know this isn't JP related, but, well, what the hell? They once opened up for Priest back in the day. Today was a wonderful day. My friend Barbara and I went on an excursion to Austin and got to meet Nikki Sixx from Motley Crue. He is a charming and very debonair gentleman. Barbara is a HUGE Crue fan and Nikki just happens to be her fave. Anyway, he was at a radio forum (basically, how can we save radio? conference). He spoke for about an hour, answered questions, and enlightened us about Covenant House, and then he signed our "Heroin Diaries" book and we chatted with him, and got our pics with him. There were only about 75 people at the conference. It was a private gig. Thanks to Barbara, we were invited. Anyway, to make a long story short, WE GOT TO MEET HIM. LOL! He is simply gorgeous. We had to dress the part, so unfortunately, I left straight from work in my suit. UGH! Apparently, the summer isn't quite over. AC/DC are on their way the end of the year too! I am full of JOY my friends! I still miss everyone and can't wait for next year's (I pray) tour of Nostro. Love to you all. Becca
Barbara getting her book signed:
Nikki and Doll...
Barbarella and Nikki... Edited at: Thursday, September 18, 2008 9:10:26 PM
[HalfordsDoll] Tuesday, September 09, 2008 7:13:11 PM
Great times! Too bad they wouldn't let us take in the sign!
Thanks for posting Jeanine!
I hope you are all well here. It's a very boring and depressing time for me. I am happy to be with my daughter, but all the excitement this summer is winding down. I want a job with Priest! Rob, Jayne...can't I be an assistant to the assistant? [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Healer from Tuesday, September 09, 2008 6:16:34 PM)
Healer wrote:
To answere QT's question..
Back row left to right: Bev, Mara, Becky/Halfordsdoll, Dee/Healer, Bren/Judaspriestess, Jeanine, Janet
front row: Darin/DMANN66, and Victoria/Wiskywomen (Her husband Colley took the picture)
Jeanine wrote:
Ask and you shall receive. Now the question is.... do you know who everybody is?
Wow! I have missed a lot! Nice photos. Just dropping in to read the news and say hi. Today is my daughter's 18th birthday! Whew! I feel old.
Hope you are all well.
send it along via e, k?! ; ) It's been a long day for me, and I think I'm needin' to shut 'er down .... goin for that one last gem, brb.
on a steel horse he rides ... oops, wrong band?! 
Thanks for sparing us! 
Just for you Mara, but he is a man after my own heart (in the past anyway since he no longer embibes in the booze). Amstel Light ROCKS!!!
Vaillant, you're awesome!
And one other person.