[Eternal Betrayer] Monday, July 30, 2012 5:33:33 PM
I'm presuming that people may now have seen these already, and I apologise too, if they've already been posted elsewhere... but, just in case... here are clips of "Electric Eye" & "Screaming For Vengeance" from the US Festival '83.
[Eternal Betrayer] Friday, January 20, 2012 3:17:17 AM
IMO, your opinion is correct HRMG - that was an excellent performance by the whole band, not just by Rob who showed no sign of struggling (even more so when you consider he's 60 now).
All hail the mighty Priest!!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS from Friday, January 20, 2012 12:28:56 AM)
HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote:
I wasn't going to put this on YouTube because I flipped the camera just before Glenn's solo, but then I decided to anyway. This is Beyond The Realms Of Death in Cleveland, OH. Rob IS NOT struggling, IMO.
[Eternal Betrayer] Monday, October 03, 2011 6:36:54 AM
Yes, I know what you mean & I agree. I was disappointed to hear Rob struggling with that high-pitched intro, and everytime he attempted it I was wishing him to nail it, but sadly on every occasion it seemed to be beyond him.
It's a pity that the band never played Blood Red Skies on the actual Ram It Down tour, as then we'd be able to compare his ability on it (who knows maybe he'd have struggled on it live even then, although I doubt it).
I'm just glad that he's found a decent compromise, that to my ears at least, has added rather than detracted from the song.
Now, if he was failing to reach some of the high-pitched screaming on Victim Of Changes etc, then there might be proper reason to worry, but from what I've seen, heard & witnessed personally the Metal God's voice is still in pretty good shape.
I will admit that "squawking" can be a little nerv-racking at times. When you think Priest though, the first thing that enters your mind is Rob halford screams.
Eternal Betrayer wrote:
I think it's a bit unrealistic to expect Rob to be able to sing exactly how he used to be able to in the 70's, 80's & early 90's. However, he does have a right good stab at it & some of his vocal performances on this Epitaph tour have been breathtaking - just check out "Victim Of Changes" for some excellent screaming. Even this clip of "Blood Red Skies" has him going for it too.
The falsetto part of the intro though, does seem to be beyond him now, and would probably give most vocalists a serious challange (in a live setting especially).
Personally, I would rather see or hear him save his fantastic voice for those notes he can reach, and where the song really needs it.
From what I can see, nothing is lost from him singing in a lower key, and it saves everyone cringing as he struggles to reach the unattainable.
It's always nice to see common sense prevail.
(Quoting Message by Ears from Outer Space from Wednesday, September 21, 2011 6:47:44 PM)
Ears from Outer Space wrote:
Doesn't this ruin the whole Judas Priest effect though, Halfords high notes are 50% to 70% of the expierence.
[Eternal Betrayer] Sunday, October 02, 2011 7:32:40 AM
Apologies if this has been discussed previously, or is common knowledge, but...
Has anyone else noticed on the "official" release version of "Breaking The Law" from the US Festival in 1983, that it features (for the first time, I think) K.K.'s added guitar solo, and yet if you check out the bootleg album or video footage from the concert the guitar solo doesn't feature... sooo, therefore; it's been added afterwards as a studio overdub presumably!?
[Eternal Betrayer] Thursday, September 22, 2011 8:48:10 AM
I think it's a bit unrealistic to expect Rob to be able to sing exactly how he used to be able to in the 70's, 80's & early 90's. However, he does have a right good stab at it & some of his vocal performances on this Epitaph tour have been breathtaking - just check out "Victim Of Changes" for some excellent screaming. Even this clip of "Blood Red Skies" has him going for it too.
The falsetto part of the intro though, does seem to be beyond him now, and would probably give most vocalists a serious challange (in a live setting especially).
Personally, I would rather see or hear him save his fantastic voice for those notes he can reach, and where the song really needs it.
From what I can see, nothing is lost from him singing in a lower key, and it saves everyone cringing as he struggles to reach the unattainable.
[Eternal Betrayer] Sunday, September 11, 2011 2:21:03 AM
I'd definately be interested in your account guidogodoy, if you wanted to let me have it. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Sunday, September 11, 2011 12:53:53 AM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Do any of you want my acct? I don't post there anyway! Like the people. Met a bunch of them but, as HB said, I am a fan of the BAND. As such, JP.com is my home.
[Eternal Betrayer] Friday, August 12, 2011 7:09:33 AM
I think one of the main problems of the poor attendances at UK shows was the fact that Iron Maiden were touring at the same time. They played the day after Priest in Glasgow, and a few days after them in Newcastle too.
It pains me to say it, but for the majority of metal fans Iron Maiden are going to come first.
However, there were apparently 25,000 fans at the High Voltage festival in London, which isn't so bad, and certainly backs up the idea that the band are thinking about carrying on with mainly festival appearences after the Epitaph tour is concluded. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by supernaut1968 from Monday, July 25, 2011 12:54:53 PM)
supernaut1968 wrote:
I read the review and it sounds great. However, I didn't say the band were poor, in fact they got a good review in the local press. My post was concerned with the poor attendance.
1700 tickets sold for a venue that holds 12,000 is not good. Wolverhampton Civic holds around 3,000 so we're talking about a venue that is a quarter of the size of Newcastle Arena. If JP had played a similar sized venue in Newcastle, it would have been just over half full.
Maybe the promoter should be asked a few questions as Newcastle has a long history of supporting rock bands. I saw Rush at the arena in May and it was full, despite no new album.
Maiden played on Saturday and again, it was full, so tickets can be sold.
I also heard that the attendance for Glasgow was poor...perhaps they were booked into the wrong venues.
[Eternal Betrayer] Friday, July 29, 2011 3:39:02 PM
Too late for me as well - saw them at Wolverhampton, High Voltage & Bournemouth & each was better than the last. Best bits, for me, was Rob saying about sitting in the audience to see David Bowie as Ziggy Stardust at the Civic Hall in his home town of Wolverhampton. Glenn's out of tune guitar messing up the start of "Victim Of Changes" at High Voltage, much to Richie's amusement & lastly Rob putting his everything into "Victim..." at Bournemouth - might not have been the biggest crowd, but he certainly blew them away!
(Rob did say there was 25,000 at High Voltage though).
Thought I saw / heard Glenn suggest, not so long ago that they may change one or two songs for the US tour... in which case:
[Eternal Betrayer] Friday, July 29, 2011 3:20:48 PM
Prefer "Blood Stained" myself, but know what you mean. Saw Priest with Ripper four times (at the Astoria Theatre, London in 1998 & 2001, Portsmouth Guildhall 2001 & Brixton Academy 2001) and all were excellent shows, especially that first Astoria show which I'd rate as one of the best JP concerts I've ever seen... from 17 times since 1983. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by electriceye69 from Friday, July 29, 2011 1:27:56 PM) Edited at: Friday, July 29, 2011 3:28:12 PM
I am going to see the Judas Priest last World Tour on Saturday and after 32 years of seeing the band live I signed onto this site in the vain hope of suggesting a track for the playlist but alas I do not have enough respect points. I think I have shown enough respect over the years and will continue to do so.
Evil Fantasies has never been on the playlist, could someone with enough respect points please suggest this in case Judas Priest never visit Manchester (UK) again.
[Eternal Betrayer] Saturday, June 25, 2011 10:04:37 AM
"Believe it, or believe it not!": The latest comments from the band - Metal Hammer, July 2011:
(on KK's announcement)
IAN -"Disagreements between members of the band? That never happened before with us - ha! To Be honest, when you're in a band as long as we've been this sort of thing always happens. In the past, though, we've always got over such issues."
ROB -"We had no clue beforehand that KK felt this way. I recall exactly how I felt when he broke the news. It was as if the floor had opened & swallowed me. My mind was going off like a box of fireworks."
IAN -"We'd all agreed this was the way it should be (the last tour). But (it was) his voice that was loudest. I wouldn't say he was behind the plan, but he seemed keener than the rest of us."
GLENN - "I think part of the problem was that he'd had a few injury problems, with his wrist in particular. But it was still something that none of us expected."
ROB - "None of us understood why he was doing this. We were all stunned. I remember lying awake that night, wondering what had happened, why things were going so wrong. But I think Glenn, Ian & I all felt that it would blow over, KK would change his mind & we'd get back on track."
IAN - "That's the reason we never announced this in the first place. We all went round to see him, all phoned him & did our best to persuade him to come back."
GLENN - "We wanted to give him as much time as we could. In the end we came close to messing everything up, because we gave him too much time. There was never the slightest indication from KK that he might come back, but we held on to the notion that he must return. It couldn't all end like this."
ROB - "My initial reaction was that it was over for Priest. It surely was the end, as we couldn't go on without KK. But then it dawned on me that this band is a lot bigger than any one member; we had to carry on."
GLENN -"We had a meeting & a choice to make. Either we stopped Judas Priest right now, or we looked for a new guitarist. Thankfully, all of us agreed that we owed it to ourselves & the fans to carry on."
(& on KK returning)
IAN -"He's not coming back. I've talked to him a lot recently & I know he has no interest in doing anything in music again. This won't come up. It's over."
GLENN -"The door will never be shut on him. If KK says he's up for a reunion, then we'll never dismiss it."
ROB - "I would welcome him with open arms. I know it would be difficult for Richie, but... when I returned [in 2003], Ripper graciously handed me the microphone & bowed out."
[Eternal Betrayer] Saturday, June 25, 2011 9:01:10 AM
"Finding Richie Faulkner" - more from Metal Hammer, July 2011:
ROB -"I went through something similar to him (KK) in quitting the band. I believe that he would want us to continue. It's the way I felt about Priest when I departed - I felt they should replace me & I'm certain that's how KK will now be feeling."
GLENN - "There are so many pals we could have called to do this. But that would have been the wrong move."
IAN -"You can just imagine what people would have said if we'd have gotten someone like Tony Iommi to help us out. 'Oh, it's Judas Sabbath now. How many Black Sabbath songs will be in the set?' We had to go for someone who'd be part of this band & not merely a guest helping us out."
RICHIE -"The first I knew of it was when I got a call out of the blue from Priest's management, inviting me to come & meet the guys. I thought it was a joke & told them to f..k off!"
GLENN -"We started by emailing him, but he ignored that. However, as soon as we met Richie, we knew this was the man for us. It was important he got on with all four members, as people as well as being a really good guitarist - & it worked on every level. I said to him that any time he needed some help musically, just give me a call. But he's ended up showing me thing!"
RICHIE -"I was nine or ten when that (Painkiller) came out & it immediately made me a fan of the band. I worked back from there. When I got this job, I went straight to reacquaint myself with their albums. What I want to make sure I do is keep the essence of what KK did, but not just mimic him. that would be daft. You know, I still can't believe I've been given this opportunity. I am determined not to let anyone down."
IAN -"We lived with this (scepticism) when Ripper was in the band. Things started off with a lot of fans chanting for Rob, but slowly Ripper won them over. I think the same thing will happen here. Once people see how good he is they'll accept Richie."
GLENN -"He's the right age for this job. If he were ten years younger, then he'd be a little too inexperienced to cope. If he were ten years older, then the fear would be he'd be too set in his ways. Right now, I can't wait to get onstage & show what we can do. He's given Judas Priest a real shot in the arm."
[Eternal Betrayer] Friday, June 24, 2011 5:09:11 PM
"Believe it, or believe it not!": The latest comments from the band - Metal Hammer, July 2011:
(on KK's announcement)
IAN -"Disagreements between members of the band? That never happened before with us - ha! To Be honest, when you're in a band as long as we've been this sort of thing always happens. In the past, though, we've always got over such issues."
ROB -"We had no clue beforehand that KK felt this way. I recall exactly how I felt when he broke the news. It was as if the floor had opened & swallowed me. My mind was going off like a box of fireworks."
IAN -"We'd all agreed this was the way it should be (the last tour). But (it was) his voice that was loudest. I wouldn't say he was behind the plan, but he seemed keener than the rest of us."
GLENN - "I think part of the problem was that he'd had a few injury problems, with his wrist in particular. But it was still something that none of us expected."
ROB - "None of us understood why he was doing this. We were all stunned. I remember lying awake that night, wondering what had happened, why things were going so wrong. But I think Glenn, Ian & I all felt that it would blow over, KK would change his mind & we'd get back on track."
IAN - "That's the reason we never announced this in the first place. We all went round to see him, all phoned him & did our best to persuade him to come back."
GLENN - "We wanted to give him as much time as we could. In the end we came close to messing everything up, because we gave him too much time. There was never the slightest indication from KK that he might come back, but we held on to the notion that he must return. It couldn't all end like this."
ROB - "My initial reaction was that it was over for Priest. It surely was the end, as we couldn't go on without KK. But then it dawned on me that this band is a lot bigger than any one member; we had to carry on."
GLENN -"We had a meeting & a choice to make. Either we stopped Judas Priest right now, or we looked for a new guitarist. Thankfully, all of us agreed that we owed it to ourselves & the fans to carry on."
(& on KK returning)
IAN -"He's not coming back. I've talked to him a lot recently & I know he has no interest in doing anything in music again. This won't come up. It's over."
GLENN -"The door will never be shut on him. If KK says he's up for a reunion, then we'll never dismiss it."
ROB - "I would welcome him with open arms. I know it would be difficult for Richie, but... when I returned [in 2003], Ripper graciously handed me the microphone & bowed out."
[Eternal Betrayer] Friday, June 24, 2011 5:08:38 PM
"Believe it, or believe it not!": The latest comments from the band - Metal Hammer, July 2011:
(on KK's announcement)
IAN -"Disagreements between members of the band? That never happened before with us - ha! To Be honest, when you're in a band as long as we've been this sort of thing always happens. In the past, though, we've always got over such issues."
ROB -"We had no clue beforehand that KK felt this way. I recall exactly how I felt when he broke the news. It was as if the floor had opened & swallowed me. My mind was going off like a box of fireworks."
IAN -"We'd all agreed this was the way it should be (the last tour). But (it was) his voice that was loudest. I wouldn't say he was behind the plan, but he seemed keener than the rest of us."
GLENN - "I think part of the problem was that he'd had a few injury problems, with his wrist in particular. But it was still something that none of us expected."
ROB - "None of us understood why he was doing this. We were all stunned. I remember lying awake that night, wondering what had happened, why things were going so wrong. But I think Glenn, Ian & I all felt that it would blow over, KK would change his mind & we'd get back on track."
IAN - "That's the reason we never announced this in the first place. We all went round to see him, all phoned him & did our best to persuade him to come back."
GLENN - "We wanted to give him as much time as we could. In the end we came close to messing everything up, because we gave him too much time. There was never the slightest indication from KK that he might come back, but we held on to the notion that he must return. It couldn't all end like this."
ROB - "My initial reaction was that it was over for Priest. It surely was the end, as we couldn't go on without KK. But then it dawned on me that this band is a lot bigger than any one member; we had to carry on."
GLENN -"We had a meeting & a choice to make. Either we stopped Judas Priest right now, or we looked for a new guitarist. Thankfully, all of us agreed that we owed it to ourselves & the fans to carry on."
(& on KK returning)
IAN -"He's not coming back. I've talked to him a lot recently & I know he has no interest in doing anything in music again. This won't come up. It's over."
GLENN -"The door will never be shut on him. If KK says he's up for a reunion, then we'll never dismiss it."
ROB - "I would welcome him with open arms. I know it would be difficult for Richie, but... when I returned [in 2003], Ripper graciously handed me the microphone & bowed out."
[Eternal Betrayer] Friday, June 24, 2011 11:35:14 AM
"Believe it, or believe it not!": The latest comments from the band - Metal Hammer, July 2011:
(on KK's announcement)
IAN -"Disagreements between members of the band? That never happened before with us - ha! To Be honest, when you're in a band as long as we've been this sort of thing always happens. In the past, though, we've always got over such issues."
ROB -"We had no clue beforehand that KK felt this way. I recall exactly how I felt when he broke the news. It was as if the floor had opened & swallowed me. My mind was going off like a box of fireworks."
IAN -"We'd all agreed this was the way it should be (the last tour). But (it was) his voice that was loudest. I wouldn't say he was behind the plan, but he seemed keener than the rest of us."
GLENN - "I think part of the problem was that he'd had a few injury problems, with his wrist in particular. But it was still something that none of us expected."
ROB - "None of us understood why he was doing this. We were all stunned. I remember lying awake that night, wondering what had happened, why things were going so wrong. But I think Glenn, Ian & I all felt that it would blow over, KK would change his mind & we'd get back on track."
IAN - "That's the reason we never announced this in the first place. We all went round to see him, all phoned him & did our best to persuade him to come back."
GLENN - "We wanted to give him as much time as we could. In the end we came close to messing everything up, because we gave him too much time. There was never the slightest indication from KK that he might come back, but we held on to the notion that he must return. It couldn't all end like this."
ROB - "My initial reaction was that it was over for Priest. It surely was the end, as we couldn't go on without KK. But then it dawned on me that this band is a lot bigger than any one member; we had to carry on."
GLENN -"We had a meeting & a choice to make. Either we stopped Judas Priest right now, or we looked for a new guitarist. Thankfully, all of us agreed that we owed it to ourselves & the fans to carry on."
(& on KK returning)
IAN -"He's not coming back. I've talked to him a lot recently & I know he has no interest in doing anything in music again. This won't come up. It's over."
GLENN -"The door will never be shut on him. If KK says he's up for a reunion, then we'll never dismiss it."
ROB - "I would welcome him with open arms. I know it would be difficult for Richie, but... when I returned [in 2003], Ripper graciously handed me the microphone & bowed out."
[Eternal Betrayer] Friday, June 24, 2011 11:29:43 AM
"Believe it, or believe it not!": The latest comments from the band - Metal Hammer, July 2011:
(on KK's announcement)
IAN -"Disagreements between members of the band? That never happened before with us - ha! To Be honest, when you're in a band as long as we've been this sort of thing always happens. In the past, though, we've always got over such issues."
ROB -"We had no clue beforehand that KK felt this way. I recall exactly how I felt when he broke the news. It was as if the floor had opened & swallowed me. My mind was going off like a box of fireworks."
IAN -"We'd all agreed this was the way it should be (the last tour). But (it was) his voice that was loudest. I wouldn't say he was behind the plan, but he seemed keener than the rest of us."
GLENN - "I think part of the problem was that he'd had a few injury problems, with his wrist in particular. But it was still something that none of us expected."
ROB - "None of us understood why he was doing this. We were all stunned. I remember lying awake that night, wondering what had happened, why things were going so wrong. But I think Glenn, Ian & I all felt that it would blow over, KK would change his mind & we'd get back on track."
IAN - "That's the reason we never announced this in the first place. We all went round to see him, all phoned him & did our best to persuade him to come back."
GLENN - "We wanted to give him as much time as we could. In the end we came close to messing everything up, because we gave him too much time. There was never the slightest indication from KK that he might come back, but we held on to the notion that he must return. It couldn't all end like this."
ROB - "My initial reaction was that it was over for Priest. It surely was the end, as we couldn't go on without KK. But then it dawned on me that this band is a lot bigger than any one member; we had to carry on."
GLENN -"We had a meeting & a choice to make. Either we stopped Judas Priest right now, or we looked for a new guitarist. Thankfully, all of us agreed that we owed it to ourselves & the fans to carry on."
(& on KK returning)
IAN -"He's not coming back. I've talked to him a lot recently & I know he has no interest in doing anything in music again. This won't come up. It's over."
GLENN -"The door will never be shut on him. If KK says he's up for a reunion, then we'll never dismiss it."
ROB - "I would welcome him with open arms. I know it would be difficult for Richie, but... when I returned [in 2003], Ripper graciously handed me the microphone & bowed out."
[Eternal Betrayer] Sunday, June 12, 2011 4:07:10 PM
From what I've seen & heard Rob does indeed seem in fine form & back to his best with a bit of jovial & rambling between song banter just like the old days, rather than some of the more recent tours where he'd just bark out the name of the next song (if you were lucky).
Richie too, seems to be fitting in very well (obviously his KK-like appearence helps) and his solos are similar enough for the over all change in style & presentation to be minimal.
It's a thumbs up from me! Edited at: Sunday, June 12, 2011 4:09:23 PM
[Eternal Betrayer] Thursday, June 09, 2011 3:21:10 PM
Can't remember the exact interview (might've been the recent one in Kerrang! or perhaps the LA press conference), but there was mention of them having rehearsed quite a few extra songs so they could take out, and put in different ones to shake things up a bit on different nights. Good idea if it happens. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Maple Syrup from Thursday, June 09, 2011 11:53:22 AM)
Maple Syrup wrote:
Couple of quick observations on the setlist from Tilburg:
Diamonds & Rust acoustic is back - Always loved the electric version. Last year when the played this electric, it was by far the best song of the show.
Turbo Lover - Really? again...They couldnt do anything else from Turbo? Serously? Out in the Cold? Could have came up with something better.
Alot of the songs in the setlist IMO they are playing it safe and are from the original Reunion of 2006: Heading Out, Sentinel, Beyond the Realms, Victim of Changes, Green Manalishi, Hell Bent.
Time for them to give YGATC & BTL and Metal Gods a rest..Been there done that for the last 5 tours..
Never Satisfied - Halford and his band have been playing this one, so no real dusted classic there (sorry JD)
The real dusted classics are Blood Red Skies (Never played live B4) & Starbreaker, which was last played live in 1980.
Other than that, not much...Dont get me wrong it is a solid setlist, but too safe IMO. Throw in Living aftre Midnight and it only becomes worse..
Too many missing classics to go on about...running wild, desert plains, tyrant, jawbreaker, etc...
Halford looks and sounds great and is unlikely they will change the setlist up much, considering they rarely do so. Looking frwd to seeing Priest in the states.
[Eternal Betrayer] Thursday, June 09, 2011 10:29:38 AM
For anyone not yet aware Glenn has started to put updates on his website "GlennTipton.co.uk", and this is the most recent one, along with his thoughts on Richie's playing:
"We played our first show last night in Tilburg Holland. Although it was a warm up show, it was just as important to us as the big shows to come and it was jam packed.
The audience was fantastic and it was an amazing debut for Ritchie. I still can`t believe the way he captures the essence of the solos, but does it in his own way. He really is quite special!
It was great to be back on stage again. The set list works well. We are, as we said doing a song from every album and being the farewell tour we have obviously included all the favourites, but songs like "Never Satisfied", "Blood Red Skies", "Starbreaker" and "Nightcrawler", also got a great reaction. The arrangement changes we made in the other songs worked well too.
All in all it was a great night for the band and I'd like to thank our fans, it was quite emotional and great to be back especially as it looked unlikely for a time."
I'm not saying it's good or bad but I am curious to know what some of you think.
I only have Youtube to go by but to me it seems as if Richie is changing some of the guitar work to suit his style.
Some of his solos sound a little flashy or jazzed up.
I'm wondering if anyone is noticing a change in their sound and I wonder, if there is a change, is it Priest's idea
or Richie's. Do they want him to add his own flair to their sound or is it maybe that he can't do KK's parts as well
as KK? Maybe it's me and there is no change. The little differences I'm noticing I'm not really liking because to
me they (Priest) sound different. The poor video quality and me only watching about a half dozen or so of them
tells not to criticize just yet.
[Eternal Betrayer] Monday, June 06, 2011 2:56:35 PM
Short clip of the band rehearsing on stage, posted by Scott Travis on Facebook. Richie says a few words & it sounds like Glenn is playing a bit of Diamonds & Rust in the background. Very nice!!!
[Eternal Betrayer] Wednesday, June 01, 2011 2:58:43 PM
You sound like you have some inside info on this Mr. Luxton. I wasn't aware that KK had wrist injuries or that the other band members were messing around thinking that he would come back etc. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Jon"JudasPriest"Luxton from Wednesday, June 01, 2011 8:13:36 AM)
Jon"JudasPriest"Luxton wrote:
If KK didn't fancy touring the world again then so be it. I was so shocked that he was probably the last member of the band to want to retire. However, if he's had wrist injuries and he can't get the enthusiasm for the tour then this is the best thing. The other guys were messing around cos they couldn't believe he meant it and would come back. Then they had to decide what to do, they would probably have lost a lot of money if they just finished the band there and then and if they really do want to carry on then great. It will depend on how Richie fits into the band because if there too many problems then they will just call it a day. I like the idea of someone like Tony Iommi touring with the band but it probably wouldnt have worked long term and this way the band many be able to carry on for a few more years yet. Lets wish them all the best of luck and look forward to a great tour.
