| [Becks] Thursday, October 03, 2013 7:29:38 PM | |
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Those prices seem totally absurd to me. I don't know what your tax rates are, but here about 1/3 of your income (depending how much you earn, it's on a scale) goes to tax (PAYE system so it's money you never see). It ensures that our public health system is funded, and while it has it's problems (long waiting lists in some areas) I'm glad that I didn't have to fork out anything for Craigs surgery last year, or for my pre and postnatal care, and my c-section (from figures I've seen that would be nearly a years wages for some people in the US). Ada sees the doctor for free (meaning fully funded) until she's 6, her vaccinations that are on the schedule are funded and her dental care until she is 18 is funded. I have never had to pay for a prescription for her yet (so many nappy rash creams, argh lol). I don't understand why the USA, who see's itself as the bastion of all that is good in the world (as flawed as that view may be), cannot provide something similar for it's people??? I don't like political talk either, cos it can step on so many toes, but man that all seems so fucked up to me.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Thursday, October 03, 2013 5:20:47 PM)| |  | guidogodoy wrote: | | Not to get too much into politics (never a discussion I openly embraced on this site), you have both arguments pretty-well laid out right below. Our healthcare system is absolutely absurd. Affordable? HA! Good example is what I just experienced. I have a local hospital two blocks away. I get health insurance as part of my job. However, the local hospital just flipped to another insurance company meaning that they no longer accept my insurance. "Out of Network" prices mean that I pay 40% vs. the insurance paying 60%. That is on TOP of basic co-pays. In any calendar year, whether a hospital or doctor accepts my insurance or not, I have an immediate base doctor copay of $450 + $1500 = $2000. That is out of pocket expense. Now, a procedure or any exam easily surpasses that in the USA. So, I am also forced to pay 40% ON TOP of the $2000. A procedure that costs $7000 - easy to rack that up with one day in a hospital - and you can do the math. If I travel to a hospital that now does take my insurance, I still have to pay the $2000 per calendar year + 10% for an "in network" procedure. Still, $2700. That does not include visits to a regular doc (about $30 per visit copay) or a specialist ($45 copay). Of course, a doc usually wants to see you both before and after any sickness or procedure so there is more $ as a doc usually refers you to a specialist for anything they can't handle. $30 for the regular doc to refer you to a specialist (who wants to see you both before and after) + meds and you get the picture.
Healthcare is a broken system in the USA and one if not THE #1 way people go into deep debt. Break an arm WITHOUT insurance? Good luck. Most lose an entire paycheck + WITH insurance.
Oh yes. All (perhaps save for Politicians) all have "healthcare insurance" taken out of their paycheck every month as well. I don't even see that $ and it is not considered a tax. It is a deduction from gross salary. Taxes are quite another thing. After all, the country runs the biggest debt in the world and government spending is out of control. Someone would have to pay for healthcare for those who are too poor, don't qualify or can't get health insurance through their jobs for one reason or another. Thus, greater insight on both Bud and Guitardude's comments.
Screw the 2 party system! Both sides have their heads up their asses.
(Quoting Message by Becks from Thursday, October 03, 2013 1:30:40 AM)
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Why don't they want it? I thought better access to affordable health care would be a good thing, like most other countries have.
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Democrats and Republicans (our only two main political parties) disagree about Obama's new health plan: Republicans don't want it and Obama won't negotiate.
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| [guidogodoy] Thursday, October 03, 2013 5:20:47 PM | |
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Not to get too much into politics (never a discussion I openly embraced on this site), you have both arguments pretty-well laid out right below. Our healthcare system is absolutely absurd. Affordable? HA! Good example is what I just experienced. I have a local hospital two blocks away. I get health insurance as part of my job. However, the local hospital just flipped to another insurance company meaning that they no longer accept my insurance. "Out of Network" prices mean that I pay 40% vs. the insurance paying 60%. That is on TOP of basic co-pays. In any calendar year, whether a hospital or doctor accepts my insurance or not, I have an immediate base doctor copay of $450 + $1500 = $2000. That is out of pocket expense. Now, a procedure or any exam easily surpasses that in the USA. So, I am also forced to pay 40% ON TOP of the $2000. A procedure that costs $7000 - easy to rack that up with one day in a hospital - and you can do the math. If I travel to a hospital that now does take my insurance, I still have to pay the $2000 per calendar year + 10% for an "in network" procedure. Still, $2700. That does not include visits to a regular doc (about $30 per visit copay) or a specialist ($45 copay). Of course, a doc usually wants to see you both before and after any sickness or procedure so there is more $ as a doc usually refers you to a specialist for anything they can't handle. $30 for the regular doc to refer you to a specialist (who wants to see you both before and after) + meds and you get the picture.
Healthcare is a broken system in the USA and one if not THE #1 way people go into deep debt. Break an arm WITHOUT insurance? Good luck. Most lose an entire paycheck + WITH insurance.
Oh yes. All (perhaps save for Politicians) all have "healthcare insurance" taken out of their paycheck every month as well. I don't even see that $ and it is not considered a tax. It is a deduction from gross salary. Taxes are quite another thing. After all, the country runs the biggest debt in the world and government spending is out of control. Someone would have to pay for healthcare for those who are too poor, don't qualify or can't get health insurance through their jobs for one reason or another. Thus, greater insight on both Bud and Guitardude's comments.
Screw the 2 party system! Both sides have their heads up their asses.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Becks from Thursday, October 03, 2013 1:30:40 AM)
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Why don't they want it? I thought better access to affordable health care would be a good thing, like most other countries have.
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Democrats and Republicans (our only two main political parties) disagree about Obama's new health plan: Republicans don't want it and Obama won't negotiate.
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| [guitardude] Thursday, October 03, 2013 4:57:25 PM | |
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Fuck`em both is the best analogy. The Obmamacare bill is outrageous and really isn`t anymore affordable than what has been in place .Except for the poor , maybe it`s better. But he`s doing his best to make us all poor. His agenda against this country becomes more apparent everyday.
Republicans support big business because they put people to work. Dem`s just want us all to depend on them for everything. Of course you are right about funding and supporting wars. Just part of their conflicting ideals. Save money and defend our country, not everyone else`s! |
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| [Budred] Thursday, October 03, 2013 2:55:55 AM | |
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Republicans don't want anything that helps people that can't help themselves. If you are a billion dollar corporation they will give whatever you need (for political contributions of course). Democrats on the other hand (even though still accepting contributions from billionaire corporations)(for favors) try to help the poor in this country also. This is one reason for our class wars and why the two sides can't get along. Republicans will spend hundreds of billions on unnecessary wars but do not want to help anyone with healthcare. It's an entitlement.
The shutdown isn't really a shutdown. The government is still functioning they just won't fund anything deemed non essential. I'm not completely convinced that's a bad thing. No matter who's side you're on the spending has to be cut. That's why these idiots have to work together. We need compromise from both sides. Neither side can have everything their way but neither side will budge. How can a citizen support this kind of government? Fuck em' both!
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| [Becks] Thursday, October 03, 2013 1:30:40 AM | |
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Why don't they want it? I thought better access to affordable health care would be a good thing, like most other countries have.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Wednesday, October 02, 2013 9:48:55 PM)| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Democrats and Republicans (our only two main political parties) disagree about Obama's new health plan: Republicans don't want it and Obama won't negotiate.
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| [guidogodoy] Wednesday, October 02, 2013 9:48:55 PM | |
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Democrats and Republicans (our only two main political parties) disagree about Obama's new health plan: Republicans don't want it and Obama won't negotiate.
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| [Becks] Wednesday, October 02, 2013 8:47:30 PM | |
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Ok so someone explain in ONE SENTENCE why the US Government has shut down? I don't get it, to me it's just supremely stupid.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Budred from Tuesday, October 01, 2013 2:56:23 PM)| | | Budred wrote: | | ![(M) Sorry for the language, but it's appropriate right now.
Thanks to @[131247023568988:274:Liberal And Proud Of It] for sharing this.](https://scontent-a-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/p280x280/1374958_10151701562441275_1777040234_n.png)
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| [Budred] Wednesday, October 02, 2013 1:06:28 AM | |
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@Headbanger. I agree. That's why I'm not too concerned about what's going on. Maybe (even though logic defy's it) the two sides will actually work together to figure this shit out. I'm so distrusting of our government that I don't even know who's side to take. Both sides lie out the ass and the GOP is waging such a fear campaign against "anything" Obama that it's impossible to make judgemet or decisions as to what's right. I hate our goverrnment right now. I hated republicans after G.W. but now it's just goverment period. I never thought highly of our government but right now it's just hatred and distrust.
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| [Head banger] Tuesday, October 01, 2013 11:11:55 PM | |
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will they all sing the same song, yes, but never at the same time
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Tuesday, October 01, 2013 10:10:19 PM)| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Willl they sing "Green Eggs and Ham?" Yes, they'll sing it, Sam I am. Will they sing it in a box? Will they sing it with a fox?
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | HA! And the bonus track would be a song called "The Filibuster of Ted Cruz", lasting 21 hours.
But, yeah. A concept album about goverment budgeting would a bit...strange.
(Quoting Message by Head banger from Tuesday, October 01, 2013 7:40:37 AM)
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Just hope they dont do a concept album about government budgeting next.
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Who cares about any of that now. Our government has shutdown!!! 
How will this affect the new Priest album?!
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| [guidogodoy] Tuesday, October 01, 2013 10:10:19 PM | |
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Willl they sing "Green Eggs and Ham?" Yes, they'll sing it, Sam I am. Will they sing it in a box? Will they sing it with a fox?
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Tuesday, October 01, 2013 8:06:27 PM)| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | HA! And the bonus track would be a song called "The Filibuster of Ted Cruz", lasting 21 hours.
But, yeah. A concept album about goverment budgeting would a bit...strange.
(Quoting Message by Head banger from Tuesday, October 01, 2013 7:40:37 AM)
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Just hope they dont do a concept album about government budgeting next.
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Who cares about any of that now. Our government has shutdown!!!
How will this affect the new Priest album?!
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| [Head banger] Tuesday, October 01, 2013 9:56:16 PM | |
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in all seriousness, your government, just like mine is so fucked up that frankly a total shutdown might improve things
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Budred from Tuesday, October 01, 2013 2:56:23 PM)| | | Budred wrote: | |
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| [Vaillant 3.0] Tuesday, October 01, 2013 8:06:27 PM | |
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HA! And the bonus track would be a song called "The Filibuster of Ted Cruz", lasting 21 hours.
But, yeah. A concept album about goverment budgeting would a bit...strange.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Head banger from Tuesday, October 01, 2013 7:40:37 AM)
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Just hope they dont do a concept album about government budgeting next.
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Who cares about any of that now. Our government has shutdown!!!
How will this affect the new Priest album?!
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| [Budred] Tuesday, October 01, 2013 2:56:23 PM | |
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| [Budred] Tuesday, October 01, 2013 2:48:03 PM | |
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| [Head banger] Tuesday, October 01, 2013 7:40:37 AM | |
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Just hope they dont do a concept album about government budgeting next.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Monday, September 30, 2013 11:21:32 PM)| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Who cares about any of that now. Our government has shutdown!!!
How will this affect the new Priest album?!
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| [guidogodoy] Monday, September 30, 2013 11:21:32 PM | |
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Who cares about any of that now. Our government has shutdown!!!
How will this affect the new Priest album?!
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| [Brian_Evans] Monday, September 30, 2013 8:48:40 PM | |
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I remember you and jimmyjames talking about that. I don't care how many times they rehash stuff because I won't buy it anyway. lol
I will buy the new cd if there ever is one.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Budred from Monday, September 30, 2013 1:52:53 PM)| | | Budred wrote: | | … I see companies that are repackaging and rehashing and that started happening to us and that was not a pretty thing to be a part of. It’s kind of duping the fans a bit because there are fans around the world that have got to have everything to complete their collection so even if there are only a few thousand of them if you put out a box collection it might be $100, which is a lot of dollars, and so for me that is something that I didn’t get into music for.”
...one of my biggest complaints about Priest. I've bitched about it a few times here. Now to hear one of them say it proves I wasn't bitching for nothing.
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| [Head banger] Monday, September 30, 2013 8:03:14 PM | |
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pissed me off when I was a kid. sitting in the record store reading the songs off an album to see what I owned and what was new shit. that was all Gull. now, who knows
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Budred from Monday, September 30, 2013 1:52:53 PM)| | | Budred wrote: | | … I see companies that are repackaging and rehashing and that started happening to us and that was not a pretty thing to be a part of. It’s kind of duping the fans a bit because there are fans around the world that have got to have everything to complete their collection so even if there are only a few thousand of them if you put out a box collection it might be $100, which is a lot of dollars, and so for me that is something that I didn’t get into music for.”
...one of my biggest complaints about Priest. I've bitched about it a few times here. Now to hear one of them say it proves I wasn't bitching for nothing.
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| [Budred] Monday, September 30, 2013 1:52:53 PM | |
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… I see companies that are repackaging and rehashing and that started happening to us and that was not a pretty thing to be a part of. It’s kind of duping the fans a bit because there are fans around the world that have got to have everything to complete their collection so even if there are only a few thousand of them if you put out a box collection it might be $100, which is a lot of dollars, and so for me that is something that I didn’t get into music for.”
...one of my biggest complaints about Priest. I've bitched about it a few times here. Now to hear one of them say it proves I wasn't bitching for nothing.
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| [acolyte55] Monday, September 30, 2013 1:18:51 PM | |
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| no problem everyone , and thanks for the re-post Guido !!! and F**K Baxter!!! thanks for that post HRMG! |
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| [HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Saturday, September 28, 2013 10:21:28 PM | |
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| [Becks] Saturday, September 28, 2013 9:16:17 PM | |
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| [Head banger] Friday, September 27, 2013 8:58:11 PM | |
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| thanks for posting it. the last paragraph makes me think that he didnt retire, and that his departure wasnt a shock to the other members. but who knows |
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| [Vaillant 3.0] Friday, September 27, 2013 8:05:10 PM | |
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That was a nice read. 
TGIF, peoples!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by acolyte55 from Friday, September 27, 2013 6:06:44 PM)| | | acolyte55 wrote: | | | http://www.themidlandsrocks.com/defender-of-the-faith-k-k-downing-talks-exclusively-to-the-midlands-rocks/comment-page-1/#comment-57237 |
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| [hellrider 31038] Thursday, September 26, 2013 6:43:37 PM | |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZY3KDPmlLQ
TOTALLY BLAST THE MIGHTY ARTES NEGRAS LINK
AND IF YOU LIKE IT AND WANT IT BUY IT AND
PREACH TO OTHERS TO DO THE SAME
IRON ANGEL ARTES NEGRAS FLAMETHROWER FIST TO YOU |
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| [guidogodoy] Thursday, September 26, 2013 12:58:03 AM | |
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Two all beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, pickles, onions on a sesame seed bun!
Oh, wait....that was the jingle for the Big Mac! LOL!!! NOW I should be moving to the Old Farts thread as I wrote the above by memory.
youtu.be/dK2qBbDn5W0
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| [Vaillant 3.0] Thursday, September 26, 2013 12:44:25 AM | |
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Hmmmm...
I think that you can truly call yourself a non-computer-geek when you look at the word/acronym "WOPR" and think to yourself,"Mmmm...Burger King." That or a shameless 'murican.
A perfect comment for the Blah, indeed.
Peace, Love and Mac n Cheese. 
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Thursday, September 26, 2013 12:07:23 AM)| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Perfect comment for the Blah:
I think that you can truly call yourself a computer geek when you and your coworker have an actual discussion about the WOPR in Wargames and how fast it would be to figure out an alphanumeric 10-length launch code if, as the WOPR, you only had to use a brute force attack and could find every single number/letter individually. Why, just cycle through every single number and uppercase/lowercase letter! If it had to figure out all 10 simultaneously, now THAT would take some time.
Moral of the story? Make strong passwords and always choose Chess over Global Thermonuclear War. 
Oh yeah...and don't give geeks too much free time to think about these sorts of things.
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| [guidogodoy] Thursday, September 26, 2013 12:07:23 AM | |
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Perfect comment for the Blah:
I think that you can truly call yourself a computer geek when you and your coworker have an actual discussion about the WOPR in Wargames and how fast it would be to figure out an alphanumeric 10-length launch code if, as the WOPR, you only had to use a brute force attack and could find every single number/letter individually. Why, just cycle through every single number and uppercase/lowercase letter! If it had to figure out all 10 simultaneously, now THAT would take some time.
Moral of the story? Make strong passwords and always choose Chess over Global Thermonuclear War.
Oh yeah...and don't give geeks too much free time to think about these sorts of things.
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| [METAL MELTDOWN] Tuesday, September 24, 2013 1:04:33 PM | |
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Well I know you are, Sam!!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Head banger from Monday, September 23, 2013 6:30:56 PM)| | | Head banger wrote: | | nope, all dead
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[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Sunday, September 22, 2013 1:35:57 AM)| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | Thanks for the info, HRMG!
Welp, looks like the Dollar Tree is trying to bring Sweetest Day to the West Coast. Don't think it'll work, though. Halloween is just too much fun! A bunch of cards with hearts on them this late in the year isn't going to sell very well. Plus, just like with Valentines Day, any day is good day to let those you care about know how much you appreciate them.
In fact, I'll do it right now.
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You guys and gals are the best. Thank you for being my friends (and, at times, for being my captive audience to the occasional nonsense that I spew). Here's a gift, from me to you. Enjoy!
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| [guidogodoy] Monday, September 23, 2013 11:48:39 PM | |
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This is truly the gift that keep giving.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Sunday, September 22, 2013 1:35:57 AM)| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | Thanks for the info, HRMG!
Welp, looks like the Dollar Tree is trying to bring Sweetest Day to the West Coast. Don't think it'll work, though. Halloween is just too much fun! A bunch of cards with hearts on them this late in the year isn't going to sell very well. Plus, just like with Valentines Day, any day is good day to let those you care about know how much you appreciate them.
In fact, I'll do it right now.
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You guys and gals are the best. Thank you for being my friends (and, at times, for being my captive audience to the occasional nonsense that I spew). Here's a gift, from me to you. Enjoy!
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| [guidogodoy] Monday, September 23, 2013 7:53:24 PM | |
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| [Head banger] Monday, September 23, 2013 6:30:56 PM | |
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nope, all dead
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by METAL MELTDOWN from Monday, September 23, 2013 1:56:52 PM)| | | METAL MELTDOWN wrote: | | you people still alive in here?
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| [METAL MELTDOWN] Monday, September 23, 2013 1:56:52 PM | |
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you people still alive in here?
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