| [Eternal Betrayer] Friday, June 27, 2008 10:56:58 AM | |
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I believe it's called freedom of speech. I think the thing here is not to take it too seriously - the Nostradamus album, or the negative responses to it.
Obviously, Priest themselves have found the solution, and just ignore it all, as much as possible.
Although, having said that; the fact they are playing different songs at the moment (Between The Hammer & The Anvil, Hell Patrol, Dissident Aggressor, Sinner, Eat Me Alive, Rock Hard Ride Free & Devil's Child etc) does show that someone is taking notice to what's been said here.
It's all good, anyway.
I don't think the new album is amazing, but I don't think it's rubbish either.
Long live the Metal Gods!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by sue.daglish from Friday, June 27, 2008 6:13:47 AM)| |  | sue.daglish wrote: | | i am actually surprised that the web site allowed jp4e to actually post this thread.how can he /she go and say that this album is the downfall of priest.it should not be allowed in the first place.if you dont like it then this is not the place to express about it.so i wish whoever is in charge of this website will hopefully delete this post as it is causing to much bitching.i dont think if rob or the boys came on here and read this,i dont think they would be too impressed with some of the comments.so just leave it be.priest have made an album which might not be to everyones taste.so what.if only 1 person likes that album,then thats the way it is.i for one absolutely love it and i think it is a classic already.now i am going off now to listen to it for the 50th time. |
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| [Return_of_Darth_Painkiller_0870] Friday, June 27, 2008 6:42:42 AM | |
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Well put Sue! Mine is on continuous play when I drive.
The reason there are such threads on the site is because there are NO MODS. Hence, b.s. threads like this sometimes occur. Also, it's been pointed out a million times over, there are far too many Nostradamus threads and it's completely unnecessary to have 10 (give or take a couple I didn't count them all) threads regarding the same general topic. If people want to post an opinion on the CD, due it in the Review of Nostradamus thread for Christ's sake! I believe someone else here put it best when they said that (I'm paraphrasing here) it's getting out of control. I agree with that. It's gotten to the point of being absolutely ridiculous!
Sorry, I don't mean to yell...I'm just terribly annoyed at all of the negativity. I think that if people don't have anything nice to say, they ought to not say anything at all. NO, I fully realize that I am not perfect, nor do I think I'm better than anyone else. I have simply come to realize that certain people are more correct than I previously thought, and I am voicing my agreement with their sentiments.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by sue.daglish from Friday, June 27, 2008 6:13:47 AM)| | | sue.daglish wrote: | | i am actually surprised that the web site allowed jp4e to actually post this thread.how can he /she go and say that this album is the downfall of priest.it should not be allowed in the first place.if you dont like it then this is not the place to express about it.so i wish whoever is in charge of this website will hopefully delete this post as it is causing to much bitching.i dont think if rob or the boys came on here and read this,i dont think they would be too impressed with some of the comments.so just leave it be.priest have made an album which might not be to everyones taste.so what.if only 1 person likes that album,then thats the way it is.i for one absolutely love it and i think it is a classic already.now i am going off now to listen to it for the 50th time. |
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| [sue.daglish] Friday, June 27, 2008 6:13:47 AM | |
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i am actually surprised that the web site allowed jp4e to actually post this thread.how can he /she go and say that this album is the downfall of priest.it should not be allowed in the first place.if you dont like it then this is not the place to express about it.so i wish whoever is in charge of this website will hopefully delete this post as it is causing to much bitching.i dont think if rob or the boys came on here and read this,i dont think they would be too impressed with some of the comments.so just leave it be.priest have made an album which might not be to everyones taste.so what.if only 1 person likes that album,then thats the way it is.i for one absolutely love it and i think it is a classic already.now i am going off now to listen to it for the 50th time. |
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| [Return_of_Darth_Painkiller_0870] Friday, June 27, 2008 4:42:52 AM | |
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I belong to the Iron Maiden Fan Club and there's no such b.s....I think it's because they have mods and the troublemakers and whiners are shutdown. There are no mods on this site, and the band doesn't visit it either due to nonsense that has gone on here in years past.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Turbo Lover from Thursday, June 26, 2008 7:44:50 PM)| | | Turbo Lover wrote: | | This is the only group's website that I read and/or post on the noticeboard. Is it normal for fans to bitch, complain and adress negitively about the music and band they are a fan of or is it just on this site? Of course we are worse than the person/people who start this crap....we spend time replying to them. Maybe if we didn't acknowledge them, they will take thier copy of Nostradus and go home. An opinion is one thing and we are all entitled to them, but to diss the group about growing musical or not playing every city in every country is simply pathetic!!!
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| [Turbo Lover] Thursday, June 26, 2008 7:44:50 PM | |
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This is the only group's website that I read and/or post on the noticeboard. Is it normal for fans to bitch, complain and adress negitively about the music and band they are a fan of or is it just on this site? Of course we are worse than the person/people who start this crap....we spend time replying to them. Maybe if we didn't acknowledge them, they will take thier copy of Nostradus and go home. An opinion is one thing and we are all entitled to them, but to diss the group about growing musical or not playing every city in every country is simply pathetic!!!
Edited at: Thursday, June 26, 2008 7:45:32 PM |
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| [Brent 27744] Thursday, June 26, 2008 6:19:00 PM | |
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Well, at #11 on the Billboard 200 (as of June 26-2008), I doubt the album will be the downfall of Priest!!
I think it's a very good album. Look folks, they can't ALWAYS make songs like Painkiller and Freewheel Burning. Enjoy some slower tempo stuff. You just have to alter your expectations a little.
For me...some songs work and some don't...but who cares. Give them credit for trying something new. |
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| [guitardude] Thursday, June 26, 2008 6:08:31 PM | |
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| Oh...Goddamn! JP4E,looks like you`ll be needing a name change. If you don`t like it,tough dude,they didn`t make it especially for you. Sell your copy,somebody will pick it up. |
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| [SkyRideR] Thursday, June 26, 2008 6:01:49 PM | |
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| golly gee whizz, this thread sucks... |
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| [Return_of_Darth_Painkiller_0870] Thursday, June 26, 2008 9:04:38 AM | |
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No one is going to disagree with you that JudasPriest4Ever is entitled to his opinion, but if you're going to blast the band (or anyone else for that matter), you need to have all of your facts straight first.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Redman from Thursday, June 26, 2008 8:49:56 AM)| | | Redman wrote: | | Please, people.. its just his opinion.. starting a whole new thread however was not such a good idea though.
| | | JudasPriest4Ever wrote: | | Let me list the things I am disgusted with:
1) that Judas Priest is only playing a select amount of concerts in the U.S.
2) the Nostradamus double cd is the most disappointing Judas Priest album I have ever heard
3) that Priest plans to perform the entire album from start to finish when they tour
4) that Priest let their manager decide for them what their new album should be about and steer it as far away from the Judas Priest sound as he could; which is why the Priest logo is NOWHERE to be found on the album, nor are any pics of the band on or in the cd at all (I guess they realized what a mistake the album was but it was too late to go in and record real Judas Priest music)
5) that after such a triumphant reunion album, Angel Of Retribution and the successful tour, they follow that up with a whimper of a neo-classical, pseudo-opera disaster
Did I leave anything out ???
Oh yeah, Priest is jumping on the prog-rock, concept album craze.
Instead of setting the trend, they are following one. |
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| [Redman] Thursday, June 26, 2008 8:49:56 AM | |
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Please, people.. its just his opinion.. starting a whole new thread however was not such a good idea though.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by JudasPriest4Ever from Wednesday, June 25, 2008 1:31:49 AM)| | | JudasPriest4Ever wrote: | | Let me list the things I am disgusted with:
1) that Judas Priest is only playing a select amount of concerts in the U.S.
2) the Nostradamus double cd is the most disappointing Judas Priest album I have ever heard
3) that Priest plans to perform the entire album from start to finish when they tour
4) that Priest let their manager decide for them what their new album should be about and steer it as far away from the Judas Priest sound as he could; which is why the Priest logo is NOWHERE to be found on the album, nor are any pics of the band on or in the cd at all (I guess they realized what a mistake the album was but it was too late to go in and record real Judas Priest music)
5) that after such a triumphant reunion album, Angel Of Retribution and the successful tour, they follow that up with a whimper of a neo-classical, pseudo-opera disaster
Did I leave anything out ???
Oh yeah, Priest is jumping on the prog-rock, concept album craze.
Instead of setting the trend, they are following one. |
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| [GRINDER *] Thursday, June 26, 2008 7:04:34 AM | |
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It's the same old story, when an heavy metal gruop, let me tell THE metal gruop, try something different there are lot's of people ready to say that they are"daed", that they have no more balls and things like that.The truth is that this is a Judas Priest album as the other and it's an high quality album,that's all. |
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| [doodah] Thursday, June 26, 2008 5:07:36 AM | |
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Nostradamus is the fall of the Priest. Pffffff........yeah right |
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| [J.D. DIAMOND] Thursday, June 26, 2008 4:46:37 AM | |
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If there "is" a next album??? Who knows....maybe this is the last studio album by the band??? I'd like to think otherwise,but who knows???? That would suck big time.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by soylentgreen4u from Thursday, June 26, 2008 12:09:47 AM)| | | soylentgreen4u wrote: | | MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY...I'M SURE THEY'LL HEAD BACK TOWARDS THE DIRECTION OF THE STYLE OF MUSIC THAT MADE THEM WHAT MOST OF US KNOW THEM AS....AT LEAST BACK IN THE DIRECTION OF AOR...I REMEMBER THE GRUMBLING BY FANS ABOUT POINT OF ENTRY,
ALTHOUGH I REALLY LIKE THAT RELEASE...THEY CAME ROARING BACK WITH SFV,BINGO!!!...
WHEN TURBO HAPPENED,MORE GRUMBLING...THEN,PAINKILLER (YES,I KNOW THERE WAS THE LIVE IN BETWEEN) BANG ON AGAIN!!!...SO I GUESS WE'LL WAIT AND SEE, BUT IT WILL BE OF NO SURPRISE TO ME IF THE PATTERN STAYS INTACT...PLUS THEY HAD STATED AT THE CONCLUSION OF AOR,THERE WAS ENOUGH MATERIAL FOR TWO ALBUMS. Hmmmmmm. BUT I'M IN TOTAL AGREEMENT WITH YOU ON THIS,ASSUMING OF COURSE THERE IS ANOTHER CREATION...LET'S HOPE THERE'S MORE TO COME. 
| | | hellrider 31038 wrote: | | | .just wait till the next album. TOTAL RUSH OF POWER, FAST HARD CORE IN YOUR FACE SCREAMING HEAVY METAL. |
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| " You should employ methods familiar to your own times, otherwise you will not be understood, nor will you survive. The methods of another age, used to speak to the men of your own day, will always be artificial, and when later generations compare this assumed manner with the works done when it alone was known and understood, and was therefore superlatively well applied, they will condemn you to inferiority, as you yourself have done. " |
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| [Soylentgreen4u] Thursday, June 26, 2008 12:09:47 AM | |
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MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY...I'M SURE THEY'LL HEAD BACK TOWARDS THE DIRECTION OF THE STYLE OF MUSIC THAT MADE THEM WHAT MOST OF US KNOW THEM AS....AT LEAST BACK IN THE DIRECTION OF AOR...I REMEMBER THE GRUMBLING BY FANS ABOUT POINT OF ENTRY,
ALTHOUGH I REALLY LIKE THAT RELEASE...THEY CAME ROARING BACK WITH SFV,BINGO!!!...
WHEN TURBO HAPPENED,MORE GRUMBLING...THEN,PAINKILLER (YES,I KNOW THERE WAS THE LIVE IN BETWEEN) BANG ON AGAIN!!!...SO I GUESS WE'LL WAIT AND SEE, BUT IT WILL BE OF NO SURPRISE TO ME IF THE PATTERN STAYS INTACT...PLUS THEY HAD STATED AT THE CONCLUSION OF AOR,THERE WAS ENOUGH MATERIAL FOR TWO ALBUMS. Hmmmmmm. BUT I'M IN TOTAL AGREEMENT WITH YOU ON THIS,ASSUMING OF COURSE THERE IS ANOTHER CREATION...LET'S HOPE THERE'S MORE TO COME.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by hellrider 31038 from Wednesday, June 25, 2008 11:37:48 PM)| | | hellrider 31038 wrote: | | | .just wait till the next album. TOTAL RUSH OF POWER, FAST HARD CORE IN YOUR FACE SCREAMING HEAVY METAL. |
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| [hellrider 31038] Wednesday, June 25, 2008 11:37:48 PM | |
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| .just wait till the next album. TOTAL RUSH OF POWER, FAST HARD CORE IN YOUR FACE SCREAMING HEAVY METAL. |
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| [Scott Gavin] Wednesday, June 25, 2008 11:11:50 PM | |
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| Odd, odd topic. But I'll throw my 10 cents in if you'll accept New Zealand currency! Just got the album yesterday [ both copies - deluxe and standard] and just listened to it this afternoon. Love it, no cheese so far at all. Delighted that this is 'my ' band, they're back, top of the charts, doing something different, and that its a challenging listen. Its fun, brooding, dark and powerful. Just cos there isn't another ' another thing comin'' doesn't make it suck. It has artistic merit, and in the future may well be regarded as one of their best. I'm still recovering from the fact Rob came back, followed by AOR, followed with this new Album, and now they're playing in New Zealand for the first time ever! Priest feast indeed, ya gotta love these guys. Honestly if it all stopped after this tour, it would have been the best ride ever. Fantastic |
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| [The Metallian] Wednesday, June 25, 2008 11:08:11 PM | |
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What a silly thread!
Anyways the downfall of Priest not at all!
This album is awesome and it shows what great musicians Priest are and that they got the balls to do something different!
I remember 1986 when Turbo came out,man talk about a kick in the nuts!We just got Defenders 2 yrs prior to it and then bang!Along came Turbo,it was like a kick in the head with a frozen steel toe boot!
It took a while to get over the shock,i eventually liked it but not like Defenders!I really could not get into the image they had in the Turbo era! At least they are still looking cool on this album!
This album to me is different but they really are showing their talents here and i am glad that they did this instead of another Painkiller or either one of their early releases!
As time goes by people are going to realize what a great piece of work this is.
I remember the bickering when AOR came out cause people complained cause they did another song on a certain topic etc etc etc!
Anyways gotta go and finish listenin to Nostradamus!
Rock Hard Ride Free!
Take Care!
The Metallian
The Master Of All Kinds Of Music! |
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| [\m/ Metal Maniac \m/] Wednesday, June 25, 2008 10:46:27 PM | |
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| I personally think there is no space for a thread like this. All this bickering and arguing when we should rejoice in what makes us Judas Priest fans! You don't have to like this album, in fact I can find flaws in their previous efforts but I choose to keep that to myself and don't see a need to write threads about it. But the bottom line is this: Priest gave it their all. Like every album they've written this was an honest attempt at a solid album and even the naysayers can agree to that if they gave this album a chance; whether or not you believe it was solid is up to you but I give the band a lot of credit for taking on this great feat, and rightfully so. Writing concept albums is not an easy feat, and the two years that took them to write it is testament to that fact. They deserve a little more respect than the arguing taking place here. Again, if you don't like Nostradamus then pop in some British Steel or Painkiller, and soak in what makes you the Judas Priest fan that you are! After all, you should appreciate what they put out because this may very well be their last. |
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| [Dead_Reckoning [Banned]] Wednesday, June 25, 2008 4:48:36 PM | |
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Wake up and let people have an opinion - just cos i dont like it doesn't mean you can't..but there's no need to diss me for it...and if you can't take it - fuck you and don't speak to me/about me again...thank you very much
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Metal Jesus from Wednesday, June 25, 2008 4:06:44 PM)| | | Metal Jesus wrote: | | Who cares man? Do you think many people know that? No, they know Nostradamus as the seer of the future.
And why are you believing Wikipedia haha, it's known to be wrong half the time.
Anyway, again as the band stated, the concept is about the events in his life, NOTHING ELSE. Not his jobs, nothing.
| | | Dead_Reckoning wrote: | | | Priest could.t even get Nostradamus' life story right - try wikipedia for a write up. He was more a healer than a bloody visionary. Gonnae miss ya Necro.... |
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