| [Soylentgreen4u] Friday, June 27, 2008 4:35:50 PM | |
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| [Deep Freeze] Friday, June 27, 2008 4:29:08 PM | |
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BWWWAAAHAHAHAHAAA!!! Thanks, soylent. I took the "blue" one..eyes getting heavy.....Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh....
Betrayer, not that I expect you to understand my position but, I have no problem with "freedom of speech". It is also not my intention to control anyone. I suppose MY right to complain about the REDUNDANCY of Threads is is a violation of said freedom? Or perhaps it is not important that I have an opinion? I don't know.
I do not wish to make more of this than already has been made. In the past two or three years, I have griped about the creation of useless Threads and they continue to pop up, so it is rather obvious that what I say is not very effective. I do not believe that I will change my opinion anytime soon and I am certain that morons will keep creating Threads regardless of the abundancy we enjoy.
I will do my very best to "lighten up". I do not want to make anyone feel oppressed.
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| [Eternal Betrayer] Friday, June 27, 2008 4:08:04 PM | |
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 I don't get the big deal about "too many" threads.
Are we having to pay for each one? Or are we being forced to visit every one of them?
The answer appears to be no. So, why do some people feel they have the right to say what others should & shouldn't do, or can & cannot say!?
Oh yes, I remember.... freedom of speech!
Lighten up! 
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| [Soylentgreen4u] Friday, June 27, 2008 4:02:58 PM | |
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| [Alli] Friday, June 27, 2008 3:55:23 PM | |
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LOL Sorry I do know where u r coming from with the number of threads but I also had to vent as well lol! I've got it out my system now ........I think!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Friday, June 27, 2008 3:40:54 PM)| |  | Deep Freeze wrote: | | AAAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGHHH!!!! You guys are KILLING me!!!! This is NOT ABOUT FREE FRIGGIN' SPEECH or having an OPINON!!!!! Alli, JD you guys know I love you dearly but I CAN'T STAND IT ANYMORE!!!!! This has NOTHING to do with liking or disliking the new album!!!! This is about creating A MILLION FRIGGIN' THREADS for the SAME FRIGGIN' SUBJECT!!!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh MAN!! I am going straight over the freaking cliff!!! Hello WALL! How are YOU today?? Do YOU have an opinion?? GREAT !! Let me hear it!! Oh? You don't like the new album? really? WOW!! THANK YOU, WALL!!!
Sorry you guys, but I had to let that out! HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| [(THE REAL)fatman_rick] Friday, June 27, 2008 3:52:59 PM | |
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LET IT ALL OUT FREEZE ILL BE YOUR SHOULDER TO CRY ON. HAHA
GOOD MAN. |
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| [Deep Freeze] Friday, June 27, 2008 3:40:54 PM | |
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AAAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGHHH!!!! You guys are KILLING me!!!! This is NOT ABOUT FREE FRIGGIN' SPEECH or having an OPINON!!!!! Alli, JD you guys know I love you dearly but I CAN'T STAND IT ANYMORE!!!!! This has NOTHING to do with liking or disliking the new album!!!! This is about creating A MILLION FRIGGIN' THREADS for the SAME FRIGGIN' SUBJECT!!!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh MAN!! I am going straight over the freaking cliff!!! Hello WALL! How are YOU today?? Do YOU have an opinion?? GREAT !! Let me hear it!! Oh? You don't like the new album? really? WOW!! THANK YOU, WALL!!!
Sorry you guys, but I had to let that out! HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| [J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, June 27, 2008 3:23:21 PM | |
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Alli !! I fully agree with you here. I'm sure that Judas Priest were aware that taking on such a project there would be risks. I'm just not sure why the band wanted to take these risks ....especially after missing Rob for almost 15 years....and only cranking out Angel Of Retribution before they drift off in obscurity......
Who's to say that Judas Priest will never recover from this? Maybe this new album is and will be the new sound and style for the band till the bands final day? Nobody knows for sure. If this is the new style and "sound" for the band for the rest of thier career.....then maybe Nostradamus "is" the downfall of Judas Priest after all,only the members of Judas Priest knows for sure.
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I disagree that this thread should not be allowed. For one thing I don't think Priest do visit this site and for another if somebody doesn't like something why shouldn't they be able to say that? They are only voicing their opinion! So what your saying is if we don't like the album we shouldn't bother saying anything? Well I disagree I mean everybody is entitled to their opinion. I think saying the album is the downfall of Priest is a bit harsh but if you don;t like the album or have something negative to say about it then you should be allowed to say it! There are far too many fan boys prepared to just clap like a set of seals and go..........Oh Priest wonderful well sorry I don't think so! I don't think it's being disrespectful to say you don;t like the album if you don;t think it;s any good you should be just as entitled to say it as if you thought it was fantastic..........It;s called free speech!
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i am actually surprised that the web site allowed jp4e to actually post this thread.how can he /she go and say that this album is the downfall of priest.it should not be allowed in the first place.if you dont like it then this is not the place to express about it.so i wish whoever is in charge of this website will hopefully delete this post as it is causing to much bitching.i dont think if rob or the boys came on here and read this,i dont think they would be too impressed with some of the comments.so just leave it be.priest have made an album which might not be to everyones taste.so what.if only 1 person likes that album,then thats the way it is.i for one absolutely love it and i think it is a classic already.now i am going off now to listen to it for the 50th time.
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| [J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, June 27, 2008 3:15:43 PM | |
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Sue........I agree with some of"JudasPriest4Ever" ,I'm not bashing the band in any way,but he does have some valid points here. I personally think that the new album "robbed the band's crunchy metal riffs,and the band's intensity"...same as Turbo did in 1986......same as Demolition did in 2001...
I think this album was not done the correct way the band should of done it. The closest I can come to a perfect example to compare what the band should of done here would be Ronnie James Dio's "MAGICA" (Year 2000). That is a perfect example of an epic adventure with lots of instraments,a different approach but not over-doingt it and still have some heavy riffs and so on that Dios known for.....
And if "Rob" and the boys log on here and read that some people do not like the album...well,they are over 30 year veterens...don't you think that they are well used to criticism by now? They ought to be. Glad you love the new album though...I wish I did........
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by sue.daglish from Friday, June 27, 2008 6:13:47 AM)| | | sue.daglish wrote: | | i am actually surprised that the web site allowed jp4e to actually post this thread.how can he /she go and say that this album is the downfall of priest.it should not be allowed in the first place.if you dont like it then this is not the place to express about it.so i wish whoever is in charge of this website will hopefully delete this post as it is causing to much bitching.i dont think if rob or the boys came on here and read this,i dont think they would be too impressed with some of the comments.so just leave it be.priest have made an album which might not be to everyones taste.so what.if only 1 person likes that album,then thats the way it is.i for one absolutely love it and i think it is a classic already.now i am going off now to listen to it for the 50th time. |
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| [Alli] Friday, June 27, 2008 3:08:25 PM | |
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I disagree that this thread should not be allowed. For one thing I don't think Priest do visit this site and for another if somebody doesn't like something why shouldn't they be able to say that? They are only voicing their opinion! So what your saying is if we don't like the album we shouldn't bother saying anything? Well I disagree I mean everybody is entitled to their opinion. I think saying the album is the downfall of Priest is a bit harsh but if you don;t like the album or have something negative to say about it then you should be allowed to say it! There are far too many fan boys prepared to just clap like a set of seals and go..........Oh Priest wonderful well sorry I don't think so! I don't think it's being disrespectful to say you don;t like the album if you don;t think it;s any good you should be just as entitled to say it as if you thought it was fantastic..........It;s called free speech!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by sue.daglish from Friday, June 27, 2008 6:13:47 AM)| | | sue.daglish wrote: | | i am actually surprised that the web site allowed jp4e to actually post this thread.how can he /she go and say that this album is the downfall of priest.it should not be allowed in the first place.if you dont like it then this is not the place to express about it.so i wish whoever is in charge of this website will hopefully delete this post as it is causing to much bitching.i dont think if rob or the boys came on here and read this,i dont think they would be too impressed with some of the comments.so just leave it be.priest have made an album which might not be to everyones taste.so what.if only 1 person likes that album,then thats the way it is.i for one absolutely love it and i think it is a classic already.now i am going off now to listen to it for the 50th time. |
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| [Eternal Betrayer] Friday, June 27, 2008 10:56:58 AM | |
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I believe it's called freedom of speech. I think the thing here is not to take it too seriously - the Nostradamus album, or the negative responses to it.
Obviously, Priest themselves have found the solution, and just ignore it all, as much as possible.
Although, having said that; the fact they are playing different songs at the moment (Between The Hammer & The Anvil, Hell Patrol, Dissident Aggressor, Sinner, Eat Me Alive, Rock Hard Ride Free & Devil's Child etc) does show that someone is taking notice to what's been said here.
It's all good, anyway.
I don't think the new album is amazing, but I don't think it's rubbish either.
Long live the Metal Gods!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by sue.daglish from Friday, June 27, 2008 6:13:47 AM)| | | sue.daglish wrote: | | i am actually surprised that the web site allowed jp4e to actually post this thread.how can he /she go and say that this album is the downfall of priest.it should not be allowed in the first place.if you dont like it then this is not the place to express about it.so i wish whoever is in charge of this website will hopefully delete this post as it is causing to much bitching.i dont think if rob or the boys came on here and read this,i dont think they would be too impressed with some of the comments.so just leave it be.priest have made an album which might not be to everyones taste.so what.if only 1 person likes that album,then thats the way it is.i for one absolutely love it and i think it is a classic already.now i am going off now to listen to it for the 50th time. |
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| [Return_of_Darth_Painkiller_0870] Friday, June 27, 2008 6:42:42 AM | |
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Well put Sue! Mine is on continuous play when I drive.
The reason there are such threads on the site is because there are NO MODS. Hence, b.s. threads like this sometimes occur. Also, it's been pointed out a million times over, there are far too many Nostradamus threads and it's completely unnecessary to have 10 (give or take a couple I didn't count them all) threads regarding the same general topic. If people want to post an opinion on the CD, due it in the Review of Nostradamus thread for Christ's sake! I believe someone else here put it best when they said that (I'm paraphrasing here) it's getting out of control. I agree with that. It's gotten to the point of being absolutely ridiculous!
Sorry, I don't mean to yell...I'm just terribly annoyed at all of the negativity. I think that if people don't have anything nice to say, they ought to not say anything at all. NO, I fully realize that I am not perfect, nor do I think I'm better than anyone else. I have simply come to realize that certain people are more correct than I previously thought, and I am voicing my agreement with their sentiments.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by sue.daglish from Friday, June 27, 2008 6:13:47 AM)| | | sue.daglish wrote: | | i am actually surprised that the web site allowed jp4e to actually post this thread.how can he /she go and say that this album is the downfall of priest.it should not be allowed in the first place.if you dont like it then this is not the place to express about it.so i wish whoever is in charge of this website will hopefully delete this post as it is causing to much bitching.i dont think if rob or the boys came on here and read this,i dont think they would be too impressed with some of the comments.so just leave it be.priest have made an album which might not be to everyones taste.so what.if only 1 person likes that album,then thats the way it is.i for one absolutely love it and i think it is a classic already.now i am going off now to listen to it for the 50th time. |
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| [sue.daglish] Friday, June 27, 2008 6:13:47 AM | |
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i am actually surprised that the web site allowed jp4e to actually post this thread.how can he /she go and say that this album is the downfall of priest.it should not be allowed in the first place.if you dont like it then this is not the place to express about it.so i wish whoever is in charge of this website will hopefully delete this post as it is causing to much bitching.i dont think if rob or the boys came on here and read this,i dont think they would be too impressed with some of the comments.so just leave it be.priest have made an album which might not be to everyones taste.so what.if only 1 person likes that album,then thats the way it is.i for one absolutely love it and i think it is a classic already.now i am going off now to listen to it for the 50th time. |
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| [Return_of_Darth_Painkiller_0870] Friday, June 27, 2008 4:42:52 AM | |
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I belong to the Iron Maiden Fan Club and there's no such b.s....I think it's because they have mods and the troublemakers and whiners are shutdown. There are no mods on this site, and the band doesn't visit it either due to nonsense that has gone on here in years past.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Turbo Lover from Thursday, June 26, 2008 7:44:50 PM)| | | Turbo Lover wrote: | | This is the only group's website that I read and/or post on the noticeboard. Is it normal for fans to bitch, complain and adress negitively about the music and band they are a fan of or is it just on this site? Of course we are worse than the person/people who start this crap....we spend time replying to them. Maybe if we didn't acknowledge them, they will take thier copy of Nostradus and go home. An opinion is one thing and we are all entitled to them, but to diss the group about growing musical or not playing every city in every country is simply pathetic!!!
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| [Turbo Lover] Thursday, June 26, 2008 7:44:50 PM | |
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This is the only group's website that I read and/or post on the noticeboard. Is it normal for fans to bitch, complain and adress negitively about the music and band they are a fan of or is it just on this site? Of course we are worse than the person/people who start this crap....we spend time replying to them. Maybe if we didn't acknowledge them, they will take thier copy of Nostradus and go home. An opinion is one thing and we are all entitled to them, but to diss the group about growing musical or not playing every city in every country is simply pathetic!!!
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| [Brent 27744] Thursday, June 26, 2008 6:19:00 PM | |
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Well, at #11 on the Billboard 200 (as of June 26-2008), I doubt the album will be the downfall of Priest!!
I think it's a very good album. Look folks, they can't ALWAYS make songs like Painkiller and Freewheel Burning. Enjoy some slower tempo stuff. You just have to alter your expectations a little.
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| [guitardude] Thursday, June 26, 2008 6:08:31 PM | |
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| Oh...Goddamn! JP4E,looks like you`ll be needing a name change. If you don`t like it,tough dude,they didn`t make it especially for you. Sell your copy,somebody will pick it up. |
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| [SkyRideR] Thursday, June 26, 2008 6:01:49 PM | |
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| golly gee whizz, this thread sucks... |
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| [Return_of_Darth_Painkiller_0870] Thursday, June 26, 2008 9:04:38 AM | |
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No one is going to disagree with you that JudasPriest4Ever is entitled to his opinion, but if you're going to blast the band (or anyone else for that matter), you need to have all of your facts straight first.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Redman from Thursday, June 26, 2008 8:49:56 AM)| | | Redman wrote: | | Please, people.. its just his opinion.. starting a whole new thread however was not such a good idea though.
| | | JudasPriest4Ever wrote: | | Let me list the things I am disgusted with:
1) that Judas Priest is only playing a select amount of concerts in the U.S.
2) the Nostradamus double cd is the most disappointing Judas Priest album I have ever heard
3) that Priest plans to perform the entire album from start to finish when they tour
4) that Priest let their manager decide for them what their new album should be about and steer it as far away from the Judas Priest sound as he could; which is why the Priest logo is NOWHERE to be found on the album, nor are any pics of the band on or in the cd at all (I guess they realized what a mistake the album was but it was too late to go in and record real Judas Priest music)
5) that after such a triumphant reunion album, Angel Of Retribution and the successful tour, they follow that up with a whimper of a neo-classical, pseudo-opera disaster
Did I leave anything out ???
Oh yeah, Priest is jumping on the prog-rock, concept album craze.
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| [Redman] Thursday, June 26, 2008 8:49:56 AM | |
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Please, people.. its just his opinion.. starting a whole new thread however was not such a good idea though.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by JudasPriest4Ever from Wednesday, June 25, 2008 1:31:49 AM)| | | JudasPriest4Ever wrote: | | Let me list the things I am disgusted with:
1) that Judas Priest is only playing a select amount of concerts in the U.S.
2) the Nostradamus double cd is the most disappointing Judas Priest album I have ever heard
3) that Priest plans to perform the entire album from start to finish when they tour
4) that Priest let their manager decide for them what their new album should be about and steer it as far away from the Judas Priest sound as he could; which is why the Priest logo is NOWHERE to be found on the album, nor are any pics of the band on or in the cd at all (I guess they realized what a mistake the album was but it was too late to go in and record real Judas Priest music)
5) that after such a triumphant reunion album, Angel Of Retribution and the successful tour, they follow that up with a whimper of a neo-classical, pseudo-opera disaster
Did I leave anything out ???
Oh yeah, Priest is jumping on the prog-rock, concept album craze.
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| [GRINDER *] Thursday, June 26, 2008 7:04:34 AM | |
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It's the same old story, when an heavy metal gruop, let me tell THE metal gruop, try something different there are lot's of people ready to say that they are"daed", that they have no more balls and things like that.The truth is that this is a Judas Priest album as the other and it's an high quality album,that's all. |
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| [doodah] Thursday, June 26, 2008 5:07:36 AM | |
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Nostradamus is the fall of the Priest. Pffffff........yeah right |
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| [J.D. DIAMOND] Thursday, June 26, 2008 4:46:37 AM | |
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If there "is" a next album??? Who knows....maybe this is the last studio album by the band??? I'd like to think otherwise,but who knows???? That would suck big time.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by soylentgreen4u from Thursday, June 26, 2008 12:09:47 AM)| | | soylentgreen4u wrote: | | MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY...I'M SURE THEY'LL HEAD BACK TOWARDS THE DIRECTION OF THE STYLE OF MUSIC THAT MADE THEM WHAT MOST OF US KNOW THEM AS....AT LEAST BACK IN THE DIRECTION OF AOR...I REMEMBER THE GRUMBLING BY FANS ABOUT POINT OF ENTRY,
ALTHOUGH I REALLY LIKE THAT RELEASE...THEY CAME ROARING BACK WITH SFV,BINGO!!!...
WHEN TURBO HAPPENED,MORE GRUMBLING...THEN,PAINKILLER (YES,I KNOW THERE WAS THE LIVE IN BETWEEN) BANG ON AGAIN!!!...SO I GUESS WE'LL WAIT AND SEE, BUT IT WILL BE OF NO SURPRISE TO ME IF THE PATTERN STAYS INTACT...PLUS THEY HAD STATED AT THE CONCLUSION OF AOR,THERE WAS ENOUGH MATERIAL FOR TWO ALBUMS. Hmmmmmm. BUT I'M IN TOTAL AGREEMENT WITH YOU ON THIS,ASSUMING OF COURSE THERE IS ANOTHER CREATION...LET'S HOPE THERE'S MORE TO COME. 
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| [Soylentgreen4u] Thursday, June 26, 2008 12:09:47 AM | |
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MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY...I'M SURE THEY'LL HEAD BACK TOWARDS THE DIRECTION OF THE STYLE OF MUSIC THAT MADE THEM WHAT MOST OF US KNOW THEM AS....AT LEAST BACK IN THE DIRECTION OF AOR...I REMEMBER THE GRUMBLING BY FANS ABOUT POINT OF ENTRY,
ALTHOUGH I REALLY LIKE THAT RELEASE...THEY CAME ROARING BACK WITH SFV,BINGO!!!...
WHEN TURBO HAPPENED,MORE GRUMBLING...THEN,PAINKILLER (YES,I KNOW THERE WAS THE LIVE IN BETWEEN) BANG ON AGAIN!!!...SO I GUESS WE'LL WAIT AND SEE, BUT IT WILL BE OF NO SURPRISE TO ME IF THE PATTERN STAYS INTACT...PLUS THEY HAD STATED AT THE CONCLUSION OF AOR,THERE WAS ENOUGH MATERIAL FOR TWO ALBUMS. Hmmmmmm. BUT I'M IN TOTAL AGREEMENT WITH YOU ON THIS,ASSUMING OF COURSE THERE IS ANOTHER CREATION...LET'S HOPE THERE'S MORE TO COME.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by hellrider 31038 from Wednesday, June 25, 2008 11:37:48 PM)| | | hellrider 31038 wrote: | | | .just wait till the next album. TOTAL RUSH OF POWER, FAST HARD CORE IN YOUR FACE SCREAMING HEAVY METAL. |
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| [hellrider 31038] Wednesday, June 25, 2008 11:37:48 PM | |
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| [Scott Gavin] Wednesday, June 25, 2008 11:11:50 PM | |
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| Odd, odd topic. But I'll throw my 10 cents in if you'll accept New Zealand currency! Just got the album yesterday [ both copies - deluxe and standard] and just listened to it this afternoon. Love it, no cheese so far at all. Delighted that this is 'my ' band, they're back, top of the charts, doing something different, and that its a challenging listen. Its fun, brooding, dark and powerful. Just cos there isn't another ' another thing comin'' doesn't make it suck. It has artistic merit, and in the future may well be regarded as one of their best. I'm still recovering from the fact Rob came back, followed by AOR, followed with this new Album, and now they're playing in New Zealand for the first time ever! Priest feast indeed, ya gotta love these guys. Honestly if it all stopped after this tour, it would have been the best ride ever. Fantastic |
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| [The Metallian] Wednesday, June 25, 2008 11:08:11 PM | |
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What a silly thread!
Anyways the downfall of Priest not at all!
This album is awesome and it shows what great musicians Priest are and that they got the balls to do something different!
I remember 1986 when Turbo came out,man talk about a kick in the nuts!We just got Defenders 2 yrs prior to it and then bang!Along came Turbo,it was like a kick in the head with a frozen steel toe boot!
It took a while to get over the shock,i eventually liked it but not like Defenders!I really could not get into the image they had in the Turbo era! At least they are still looking cool on this album!
This album to me is different but they really are showing their talents here and i am glad that they did this instead of another Painkiller or either one of their early releases!
As time goes by people are going to realize what a great piece of work this is.
I remember the bickering when AOR came out cause people complained cause they did another song on a certain topic etc etc etc!
Anyways gotta go and finish listenin to Nostradamus!
Rock Hard Ride Free!
Take Care!
The Metallian
The Master Of All Kinds Of Music! |
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| [\m/ Metal Maniac \m/] Wednesday, June 25, 2008 10:46:27 PM | |
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| I personally think there is no space for a thread like this. All this bickering and arguing when we should rejoice in what makes us Judas Priest fans! You don't have to like this album, in fact I can find flaws in their previous efforts but I choose to keep that to myself and don't see a need to write threads about it. But the bottom line is this: Priest gave it their all. Like every album they've written this was an honest attempt at a solid album and even the naysayers can agree to that if they gave this album a chance; whether or not you believe it was solid is up to you but I give the band a lot of credit for taking on this great feat, and rightfully so. Writing concept albums is not an easy feat, and the two years that took them to write it is testament to that fact. They deserve a little more respect than the arguing taking place here. Again, if you don't like Nostradamus then pop in some British Steel or Painkiller, and soak in what makes you the Judas Priest fan that you are! After all, you should appreciate what they put out because this may very well be their last. |
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| [Dead_Reckoning [Banned]] Wednesday, June 25, 2008 4:48:36 PM | |
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Wake up and let people have an opinion - just cos i dont like it doesn't mean you can't..but there's no need to diss me for it...and if you can't take it - fuck you and don't speak to me/about me again...thank you very much
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Metal Jesus from Wednesday, June 25, 2008 4:06:44 PM)| | | Metal Jesus wrote: | | Who cares man? Do you think many people know that? No, they know Nostradamus as the seer of the future.
And why are you believing Wikipedia haha, it's known to be wrong half the time.
Anyway, again as the band stated, the concept is about the events in his life, NOTHING ELSE. Not his jobs, nothing.
| | | Dead_Reckoning wrote: | | | Priest could.t even get Nostradamus' life story right - try wikipedia for a write up. He was more a healer than a bloody visionary. Gonnae miss ya Necro.... |
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| [J.D. DIAMOND] Wednesday, June 25, 2008 4:28:27 PM | |
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I think that fans should restrain from bashing out at the band with these threads about the new album.For some,including myself...this album is definately a well thought out concept,a well recorded production and a very smart story line but will not settle in and feel at home with the elite JP recordings. I as well think that the band is headed in the wrong direction and is simply to far up in thier career to mold into an album that is more of an opera sprinkled with a touch of heavy metal...instead of a heavy metal album sprinkled with a touch of opera.
Thats just my personal opinion.I as well think the album is far to long and way to slow...and to many ballads....but there is still one thing here....I still love judas Priest and I hail them for putting in such dedication and I am far from dissappointed in the bands effort in Nostradamus,......there is no need to bash the band here....but it is ok to express ones opinion in a respectable manner and have respect for other fans here whos opinion is of that Nostradamus is Priest's best work to date.......we all have something in common here....we all love Judas Priest!!!!!!! |
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| [Bazookajoe_666] Wednesday, June 25, 2008 4:06:44 PM | |
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Who cares man? Do you think many people know that? No, they know Nostradamus as the seer of the future.
And why are you believing Wikipedia haha, it's known to be wrong half the time.
Anyway, again as the band stated, the concept is about the events in his life, NOTHING ELSE. Not his jobs, nothing.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Dead_Reckoning from Wednesday, June 25, 2008 12:20:28 PM)| | | Dead_Reckoning wrote: | | | Priest could.t even get Nostradamus' life story right - try wikipedia for a write up. He was more a healer than a bloody visionary. Gonnae miss ya Necro.... |
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| [Bazookajoe_666] Wednesday, June 25, 2008 3:52:25 PM | |
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Let explain your points.
1. They are only playing select dates because of the METAL MASTERS TOUR! It's only 16 dates long (I think, might be 15). Wait for the full blown tour and mulitple legs to kick in. THEN we'll get a full on Priest tour, just be patient.
2. Fine, your opinion.
3. They do plan to, and it's going to be nothing short of amazing live, they said they have a lot of really cool stage ideas to put in. Such as the thrown Rob sits on when they play Death, and comes out dressed in a robe covered with studs on the first song, dressed like Nostradamus. It's cheesy as hell yes but it's fucking awesome too haha.
4. It wasn't forced on them. Just suggested and they took the idea. They've been wanting to do a concept album for decades.
5. I don't really know what to say to this but..... NOOOOOOOOOSSTRADAMMMUSSS!!!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by JudasPriest4Ever from Wednesday, June 25, 2008 1:31:49 AM)| | | JudasPriest4Ever wrote: | | Let me list the things I am disgusted with:
1) that Judas Priest is only playing a select amount of concerts in the U.S.
2) the Nostradamus double cd is the most disappointing Judas Priest album I have ever heard
3) that Priest plans to perform the entire album from start to finish when they tour
4) that Priest let their manager decide for them what their new album should be about and steer it as far away from the Judas Priest sound as he could; which is why the Priest logo is NOWHERE to be found on the album, nor are any pics of the band on or in the cd at all (I guess they realized what a mistake the album was but it was too late to go in and record real Judas Priest music)
5) that after such a triumphant reunion album, Angel Of Retribution and the successful tour, they follow that up with a whimper of a neo-classical, pseudo-opera disaster
Did I leave anything out ???
Oh yeah, Priest is jumping on the prog-rock, concept album craze.
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| [Painkiller87] Wednesday, June 25, 2008 2:52:10 PM | |
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IMHO, I think Priest needs a new direction in music and this was perfect. It is probably one of the best albums I have ever heard in a long time, and I have listened to so many different styles of metal and all sorts of music. To say this is Priest's downfall is a very ignorant statement. Those points you made, JudasPriest4Ever, are not really valid because they are either opinions or false statements or just plain whining statements. I don't wish to say too much, but I will say that Priest will last for a considerable amount of time longer than anyone can guess. They always think up something really cool for everyone to listen to and will always give out great performances. Now lets just think of all the positive things about this album and these tours and just be ready for when they come to a venue near you. BTW everyone hopefully I will get platinum passes around early July for the Phoenix show in August and be able to bring my two roomates in on the fun. Everyone have a great day and keep on being faithful to the Metal Gods!  |
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| [screaming_4_priest] Wednesday, June 25, 2008 2:26:46 PM | |
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Thanx friend.
Im from the UK. & yes i was very upset that we only had one date for the year, but i saved up the money & went to Download fest anyway to see well just Judas Priest really & a few others. but it was worth it.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by soylentgreen4u from Wednesday, June 25, 2008 1:27:40 PM)| | | soylentgreen4u wrote: | | I MUST SAY YOU REALLY STUCK YOUR HEAD IN THE FIRE WITH THIS ONE!!! ...ESPECIALLY ADDING THE 'DOWNFALL' THING...OH WELL...GOOD LUCK...I'LL JUST ADD,NEVERMIND THE SELECT U.S. DATES,THE COUNTRY GETS IT SHARE...IF THERE'S A COUNTRY THAT SHOULD BE TICKED OFF, AT PRESENT ANYWAY,IT'S THE U.K.,PRIEST IS FROM THERE AND LOOK WHAT THEY'VE RECEIVED SO FAR....PRETTY SAD!  ...(IN SUPPORT FOR MY BRITISH FRIENDS AND PRIEST FANS OVER THERE.) 
| | | JudasPriest4Ever wrote: | | Let me list the things I am disgusted with:
1) that Judas Priest is only playing a select amount of concerts in the U.S.
2) the Nostradamus double cd is the most disappointing Judas Priest album I have ever heard
3) that Priest plans to perform the entire album from start to finish when they tour
4) that Priest let their manager decide for them what their new album should be about and steer it as far away from the Judas Priest sound as he could; which is why the Priest logo is NOWHERE to be found on the album, nor are any pics of the band on or in the cd at all (I guess they realized what a mistake the album was but it was too late to go in and record real Judas Priest music)
5) that after such a triumphant reunion album, Angel Of Retribution and the successful tour, they follow that up with a whimper of a neo-classical, pseudo-opera disaster
Did I leave anything out ???
Oh yeah, Priest is jumping on the prog-rock, concept album craze.
Instead of setting the trend, they are following one. |
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| [Soylentgreen4u] Wednesday, June 25, 2008 1:27:40 PM | |
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I MUST SAY YOU REALLY STUCK YOUR HEAD IN THE FIRE WITH THIS ONE!!!...ESPECIALLY ADDING THE 'DOWNFALL' THING...OH WELL...GOOD LUCK...I'LL JUST ADD,NEVERMIND THE SELECT U.S. DATES,THE COUNTRY GETS IT SHARE...IF THERE'S A COUNTRY THAT SHOULD BE TICKED OFF, AT PRESENT ANYWAY,IT'S THE U.K.,PRIEST IS FROM THERE AND LOOK WHAT THEY'VE RECEIVED SO FAR....PRETTY SAD! ...(IN SUPPORT FOR MY BRITISH FRIENDS AND PRIEST FANS OVER THERE.)
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by JudasPriest4Ever from Wednesday, June 25, 2008 1:31:49 AM)| | | JudasPriest4Ever wrote: | | Let me list the things I am disgusted with:
1) that Judas Priest is only playing a select amount of concerts in the U.S.
2) the Nostradamus double cd is the most disappointing Judas Priest album I have ever heard
3) that Priest plans to perform the entire album from start to finish when they tour
4) that Priest let their manager decide for them what their new album should be about and steer it as far away from the Judas Priest sound as he could; which is why the Priest logo is NOWHERE to be found on the album, nor are any pics of the band on or in the cd at all (I guess they realized what a mistake the album was but it was too late to go in and record real Judas Priest music)
5) that after such a triumphant reunion album, Angel Of Retribution and the successful tour, they follow that up with a whimper of a neo-classical, pseudo-opera disaster
Did I leave anything out ???
Oh yeah, Priest is jumping on the prog-rock, concept album craze.
Instead of setting the trend, they are following one. |
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| [DemonCat] Wednesday, June 25, 2008 1:27:12 PM | |
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I believe you meant DF. He's made the quite appropriate complaint about too many Nostradamus threads. This one included...which very well may be the downfall of it's creator.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Wednesday, June 25, 2008 12:48:42 PM)| | | spapad wrote: | | | WTF! DC, I now see what your comment about too many Nos. discussions being posted was about. I feel unclean just posting my objection to this page. GET ME OUT OF HERE |
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| [spapad] Wednesday, June 25, 2008 12:48:42 PM | |
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| WTF! DC, I now see what your comment about too many Nos. discussions being posted was about. I feel unclean just posting my objection to this page. GET ME OUT OF HERE |
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| [Diamond Jim] Wednesday, June 25, 2008 12:40:48 PM | |
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WEBMASTER MURRAY...PLEASE SHUT THIS THREAD DOWN!!!!! IT DOESN'T BELONG HERE!!!!!
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| [Dead_Reckoning [Banned]] Wednesday, June 25, 2008 12:20:28 PM | |
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| Priest could.t even get Nostradamus' life story right - try wikipedia for a write up. He was more a healer than a bloody visionary. Gonnae miss ya Necro.... |
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| [Eternal Betrayer] Wednesday, June 25, 2008 11:54:46 AM | |
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You're already converted - you don't count.
This is for all the sinners!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by screaming_4_priest from Wednesday, June 25, 2008 11:42:17 AM)| | | screaming_4_priest wrote: | | I see what your trying to do, BUt its a concept album & doing that just complety underminds the plot & what the band have worked hard to get across.
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| [screaming_4_priest] Wednesday, June 25, 2008 11:42:17 AM | |
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I see what your trying to do, BUt its a concept album & doing that just complety underminds the plot & what the band have worked hard to get across.
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| [Eternal Betrayer] Wednesday, June 25, 2008 11:36:38 AM | |
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THE ANSWER - for all those still scratching their heads over the latest offering from JP is, I think, perhaps one caused by the pacing on the album.
It is, after all, very very long, with some considerable mid-paced / ballad-y numbers. My advice is to edit it down to a slimmer, meaner & faster 80mins (single disc) version.
Select the following running order on to a CDR, or ipod playlist etc, and hear a much more familiar, agressive & traditional metal-esq sounding release.
1. Dawn of creation
2. Prophecy
3. Awakening
4. Revelations
5. Sands of Time
6. Pestilence & plague
7. Death
8. Peace
9. Conquest
10. Persecution
11. Alone
12. Shadows in the flame
13. Visions
14. Calm before the storm
15. Nostradamus
16. Future of mankind
Now, I know there will be many out there screaming (for vengeance) that this is sacriledge & not how the album is intended to be listened to, but, then they are already the converted, and what we are trying to do here is get as many people on board as possible. I myself, do find the whole double disc a rather flabby affair, I'm sorry to say, and do actually prefer the above edited version which I find is a far pacier & exciting listen - much more what I was hoping for.
I see it as something similar to the cinema release versions of the Lord Of The Rings films, as opposed to their much weightier Director's cut DVDs.
As for the missing tracks, well once you've grown to love the above you can re-incert them later, or visit them individually & see how they shape up having acclimatized yourself to this new world of the metal gods.
Just trying to help.
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| [sue.daglish] Wednesday, June 25, 2008 10:20:13 AM | |
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hey necro
i am beginning to wonder if you actually like priest at all.all i have seen you do is slag off at everything.if you actually read this message then if you do like priest how bout not slagging them off for once.j priest cant please every one all the time every time.but if someone likes the album then you thats up to them.its not your problem.as far as i am concerned priest have not made many rubbish songs if you like to put it that way.i have been a massive fan for nearly 30 years and the only album i am not keen on is turbo.but it still has some great songs on it.now i might not like it a lot but you might think its a great album.so what.so either grow up and start supporting your group or go and moan at some other website,because it seems thats all you are good for,moan moan moan |
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| [\m/ Metal Maniac \m/] Wednesday, June 25, 2008 10:07:06 AM | |
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I'm not here to bash anyone, but I believe this album is as far from a downfall as it can get. It's quite an amazing album, and while it doesn't draw upon songs like "Painkiller" or "Sentinel" it certainly displays Priest's talents as songwriters. It's safe to say that while this is a new direction it's more of a mature direction because no longer do we hear Priest re-hashes of tunes about leather and monsters.
And it's about damn time they use synthesizers correctly (unlike another album we all know)! |
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| [screaming_4_priest] Wednesday, June 25, 2008 8:36:11 AM | |
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C ya laterz.
Dont let the door hit you on the way out!!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Necroticist from Wednesday, June 25, 2008 7:11:18 AM)| | | Necroticist wrote: | | | i'm pissed with u lemmings - u dont HAVE to like a CD just cos it's priest - if it was another band u'd fucking hate it - it is shite and this is the last post u'll ever see from me cos i am leaving the site....Friends know where to find me....jeez.... |
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| [Necroticist] Wednesday, June 25, 2008 7:11:18 AM | |
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| i'm pissed with u lemmings - u dont HAVE to like a CD just cos it's priest - if it was another band u'd fucking hate it - it is shite and this is the last post u'll ever see from me cos i am leaving the site....Friends know where to find me....jeez.... |
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| [Brent 27744] Wednesday, June 25, 2008 6:53:56 AM | |
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Nostradamus is NOT the downfall of Priest.
The album is not one of my favorites from them, but a lot of people seem to like it. Also, Priest has had other albums heavily criticized and they end up surviving in the end. Every band has its ups and downs. A band as established as Priest can weather the criticism. |
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| [sue.daglish] Wednesday, June 25, 2008 6:26:33 AM | |
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your name is judaspriest4ever,then how the hell can you slag off the best metal band in the world.
1st of all this is one of their best albums by far,and bands who just keep on churning the same old shit out all the time end up on the slag heep.so as far as i am concerned that is why judas priest are not on the slag heep.they have made a truly classic album and you should not ever put them down.i have been a fan ever since british steel and all of there albums are brill.what is wrong with a concept album anyway its fresh and different to a o d.now if you just give it another listen too then you might start to appreciate how good this album is.i will never understand fans who slag off thier bands just because the album is not the way you like it.enjoy it for what it is.
there i have said my piece.i feel better now |
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| [Screamin' Demon] Wednesday, June 25, 2008 6:18:02 AM | |
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JP4Eva you make your name so ironic. This album is as 'Priest as it gets. It's heavy, it has fast moments, brutal moments, it's epic, groovy, it's badass and rocks my balls off big time. Judas Priest wanted to move in this direction and Painkiller, Angel Of Retribution, and Nostradamus are what the real 'Priest are about.
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