HEY RON, GET YOURSELF A PAIR OF VERY TIGHT UNDER AMOUR COLD GEAR PANTS AND TOP.  PUT A PAIR OF SWEAT PANTS ON ( THE PANTS DO LOOK A LITTLE SILLY ON GUYS), A FLEECE OR COTTON SWEAT SHIRT AND A HOODIE. I BOX IN THE YARD OR GO TO THE PARK IN 20 -25 DEGREES LIKE THIS AND DO MY CALESTENICS, SKATE AND RUN. IT WILL KEEP YOU WARM.

		ronhartsell wrote:
		I need some heated thermos...too cold for too long...listening to Priest in the morning does get the heart pumping and the blood moving, though...have a great day everyone!!! Good for you, Bev!!!

Good morning, my fellow Metallians!!!

Rant of the day: Someone needs to come up with a way to make self-heating clothing.  It's too damn cold out!!!  

LOL  Still dreamin' 'bout trucks?

		LORD of TEXAS wrote:

I'm actually impressed with the way posters handled the situation.  Papering over the moron's spree of idiocy with pictures of the band was brilliant!

Had to actually go back several pages to find out what the complaints and words were referring to.  In the end, this is a blip on the site, easily buried, and admirably dealt with.  The disgusting part is the fact that this person actually dragged the people he was degrading out on this site...  What a worthless person.  I feel bad for those people involved, for them this is an issue that goes beyond internet idiocy...

And hello to you Deep Freeze, and all the metallians and denizens of our wonderful planet!

		Deep Freeze wrote:
		I just spent over twenty minutes "back reading"in the Moment Please Thread. As I really have very little patience at this moment, my first thought was to simply turn the damn computer off for the weekend but, as I read post after post, my stomach began to knot up and I could actually feel the bile rise! I felt genuine anger and was about to unleash in that Thread , when a wave of common sense grabbed me and I stopped. I decided it would be better that I came here and said something. How in the name of all that is decent have we come to this??? People! Are we friggin MAD????? I am so completely disgusted with what I saw that I am very near logging off of this site for the indefinite future! What kind of person is this guy?? What kind of power (yes, power) does he hold that would turn our family so upside- down and leave us in such a state?? There should NEVER be ANYONE that can do this to us. I commend our dear guido for his acts of chivalry! Obviously, if there is a man among us, he is that man. There is no greater cause than the defense of a loved friend. Having said this, I am sick to my stomach over how the whole event degraded into a personal and very private war. This is a public forum seen ALL OVER THE WORLD! What kind of idiot brings his family into this war and stays??? I should think he would have simply logged off when guido fired the first devastating salvo?!?! But no, he decided to stand and fight and at what cost? At what gain?? To attempt to further humiliate and already spent ex-girlfriend? Is THAT worth one's family and privacy??  In our world , the idea of a man and a father have been degraded to such a level as to have little meaning. Any male human with a sperm count can sire offspring. That is now the definition of fatherhood. What we have is simply a condition of more children that have NO idea what a father really is. Apparently, that word has just lost all meaning. Father...big friggin deal! Where is the dignity and grace? Where is the responsibility?  *ugh* I am so utterly disgusted by the things I have read today that I find myself feeling ill. I am literally sick to my stomach. If this person is an example of the state of fatherhood in the US, we as a country.., as a RACE, are doomed and I am NOT saying this for some kind of emotional effect. PLEASE tell me there is a man among us! PLEASE tell me there is a father. I can assure you Murray will see this garbage and he will be FAR less than pleased. And, before any of you friggin dumbasses bother to say it, NO I am NOT "pals" with Murray Francis. I do not "have him over for dinner". I do know he will be as disgusted as I am and God help this site. And now, having said all of this, I have one final comment; Can any of you tell me what YOU think the guys in the Band would say is they actually read that exchange? Think about that for a moment. What kind of a reflection is it on the Band and its fans? If Rob were to take a peek, just by happenstance. What would he think? If JAYNE were to see that? As a woman, I think she would probably have FAR more to say than me and it would not be nearly as reserved! It has been a terribly emotional couple days for me. I have seen things and thought of things that no one should have to endure. This place is a sanctuary. It is a place of friendship and love. I come here for the solace and comfort that my family has here for me. That has been defiled this morning and I am hurt. I am truly hurt. I going now. PLEASE find some time to consider my words. PLEASE find a moment to come together. I love you all. Good Bye. Edited at: Saturday, January 17, 2009 8:50:15 AM

I just spent over twenty minutes "back reading"in the Moment Please Thread. As I really have very little patience at this moment, my first thought was to simply turn the damn computer off for the weekend but, as I read post after post, my stomach began to knot up and I could actually feel the bile rise! I felt genuine anger and was about to unleash in that Thread , when a wave of common sense grabbed me and I stopped. I decided it would be better that I came here and said something.

How in the name of all that is decent have we come to this??? People! Are we friggin MAD????? I am so completely disgusted with what I saw that I am very near logging off of this site for the indefinite future! What kind of person is this guy?? What kind of power (yes, power) does he hold that would turn our family so upside- down and leave us in such a state?? There should NEVER be ANYONE that can do this to us.

I commend our dear guido for his acts of chivalry! Obviously, if there is a man among us, he is that man. There is no greater cause than the defense of a loved friend. Having said this, I am sick to my stomach over how the whole event degraded into a personal and very private war. This is a public forum seen ALL OVER THE WORLD! What kind of idiot brings his family into this war and stays??? I should think he would have simply logged off when guido fired the first devastating salvo?!?! But no, he decided to stand and fight and at what cost? At what gain?? To attempt to further humiliate and already spent ex-girlfriend? Is THAT worth one's family and privacy?? 

In our world , the idea of a man and a father have been degraded to such a level as to have little meaning. Any male human with a sperm count can sire offspring. That is now the definition of fatherhood. What we have is simply a condition of more children that have NO idea what a father really is. Apparently, that word has just lost all meaning. Father...big friggin deal! Where is the dignity and grace? Where is the responsibility?  *ugh*

I am so utterly disgusted by the things I have read today that I find myself feeling ill. I am literally sick to my stomach. If this person is an example of the state of fatherhood in the US, we as a country.., as a RACE, are doomed and I am NOT saying this for some kind of emotional effect. PLEASE tell me there is a man among us! PLEASE tell me there is a father.

I can assure you Murray will see this garbage and he will be FAR less than pleased. And, before any of you friggin dumbasses bother to say it, NO I am NOT "pals" with Murray Francis. I do not "have him over for dinner". I do know he will be as disgusted as I am and God help this site. And now, having said all of this, I have one final comment;

Can any of you tell me what YOU think the guys in the Band would say is they actually read that exchange? Think about that for a moment. What kind of a reflection is it on the Band and its fans? If Rob were to take a peek, just by happenstance. What would he think? If JAYNE were to see that? As a woman, I think she would probably have FAR more to say than me and it would not be nearly as reserved!

It has been a terribly emotional couple days for me. I have seen things and thought of things that no one should have to endure. This place is a sanctuary. It is a place of friendship and love. I come here for the solace and comfort that my family has here for me. That has been defiled this morning and I am hurt. I am truly hurt. I going now. PLEASE find some time to consider my words. PLEASE find a moment to come together. I love you all. Good Bye.