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[mgdman] Tuesday, December 02, 2008 5:01:42 AM 
Well said guido! I have only been a member a short time
but, I do "talk" with some here and enjoy keeping up with 
everyone and their happenings!   

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Tuesday, December 02, 2008 1:08:42 AM)
[guidogodoy] Tuesday, December 02, 2008 1:08:42 AM 
I'll jump in with and answer, if I may, as it matters a great deal to me if JP is up or down.

Most know me as one very much into tech. I am a programmer, set up computer networks, just finished building three computers in as many days and can (sadly?) tell you how the next quad-core "Nehalem" Intel chip will fare against the nanosecond "future" of computing. That said, I am one of the only people I know who does not own a cellphone! I have NEVER been one for chat even in the beginnings (yeah, I know FORTRAN and can change tubes on the ENIAC! LOL!). Quite frankly, I feel no need nor do I have anything so important to say as to be in contact with someone so constantly. 

Email, to me, is a task. A chore. How I deal with people on a day-to-day basis at work. WORK being the key word. They demand a response. IM conversations? To me, they are like cellphones (and chat, for that matter). They are "non-substantive," IMO. Perhaps a laugh or two on the good days but, again, a chore to me.

I may come across as a troglodyte (anyone who knows me knows that I am cutting edge on most everything) or perhaps an anomaly of the traditional tech-nerd. Still, for as much as tech marches on, I appreciate the human contact all the more. Wanna know the saddest thing I saw last Ozzfest? The masses who were there speaking on the phone. I am almost ashamed to have taken so many pictures at the last Priest concert. Probably what led to my injury. First time I got a camera into a show while trying to headbang.

"Don't you email your friends" you ask? IM? IRC? Nope. I might email a friend from time to time but no IM nor IRC. I just don't have the time to be on the same schedule as them. HERE, however, I can be writing at 1am, post pictures, make friends both here at home and ESPECIALLY abroad. Necro sending recipes to us, for example? How would I have found such a thing otherwise?

I cherish the noticeboard for it doesn't "demand" my time. I give it freely and whenever I am able. I very much appreciate the opportunity to have that choice.   [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Where AmI from Tuesday, December 02, 2008 12:24:48 AM)
Edited at: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 1:12:41 AM
[.] Tuesday, December 02, 2008 12:24:48 AM 

Don't you email your friends and have IM conversations or use IRC? Honestly, there is no reason why you should stop talking to your friends now that you have them. It shouldn't matter that jp.com is up or down.
Where there is an ending, there may be a new begining. A far better, sharper, improved begining. A slick, shiny - and technologically advanced - begining to reflect the changing times.
If for that to happen, jp.com has to be sacrificed, so be it. I'll be the first one to hammer the nails on the cross.


  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Head banger from Monday, December 01, 2008 6:49:24 PM)
[guidogodoy] Monday, December 01, 2008 10:59:35 PM 
I couldn't agree more, HB. I initially came to this site to get to know the fans that meant so much to me at the Priest shows. Not just the casual fans but, rather, the TRUE fanatics. Those special people with whom I had spent a couple of hours of REAL headbanging at the shows. You know who you are...at every show there are quite a number who know every song, every chord, every change. Somehow we always seem to gravitate to one another at the shows. Without this NOTICEBOARD (not just the ability to post messages), such friendships would be lost or, worse, never have happened in the first place.

To illustrate the point, I present this maniac who felt the need to take a picture of ME at the last show. I laughed and snapped one right back. Any of you him? I wanna see how my pic turned out! Thanks to the Noticeboard, I just might! LOL!!!

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Head banger from Monday, December 01, 2008 6:49:24 PM)
[scorpion01] Monday, December 01, 2008 10:49:56 PM 

MY FATHER ALSO PASSED AWAY FROM CANCER OVER 30 YEARS AGO. I STILL GET TEARY EYEY WHEN I THINK OF CERTIAN MEMORIES. TIME HEALS AND YOU LEARN TO DEAL WITH IT BETTER, BUT FACTS ARE FACTS AND HE IS NO LONGER HERE. 

LOOK AT THE THREAD FOR SONGS THAT MEAN THE MOST. WE'LL BURN THE SKY BY THE SCORPIONS MAKES  ME THINK OF HIM AND I GET A LITTLE CHOKED UP EVERY TIME I HEAR THE SONG. 

HOPEFULLY THINGS WILL TURN OUT MUCH BETTER FOR MG'S MOM. I'M SURE THEY WILL.

BUT HEY WE ARE ALL JUDAS PRIEST FANS AND THAT IS WHAT BROUGHT US TOGETHER. BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T DISCUSS OTHER THINGS WE HAVE IN COMMON AND HELP EACHOTHER. 

TO ME THE SITE IS A LOT OF FUN, BUT IF SOMEONE IS GOING THROUGH HARD TIMES, LENDING AND OPEN EAR AND SHOWING A LITTLE RESPECT ISN'T MUCH TO ASK.

[TIMBONI] Monday, December 01, 2008 9:36:48 PM 
Very true.   My father died of cancer back in Sept. 2005.   Although I never really made it a public subject, they really helped me deal with the situation.  Sometimes it was just the fact that I had some place to act like a fool in the Kmac area or make jokes with old 70's show references ( thanks to those who know who you are ).  If you've got things to handle then handle them, but don't feel guilty about living and/or being happy.  It took me a while to learn that and much of it was thanks to the people here. 
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by scorpion01 from Monday, December 01, 2008 9:24:33 PM)
[scorpion01] Monday, December 01, 2008 9:24:33 PM 

MG - I'LL BET MOST PEOPLE ON THIS SITE HAVE BEEN THROUGH HAVING A LOVE ONE HAVING CANCER. I HAVE! I'M SURE WITH TODAYS TECHNOLOGY YOUR MOM IS GETTING THE BEST TREATMENT POSSIBLE. 

DON'T STOP COMING TO THIS SITE! IT'S AT TIMES LIKE THIS THAT YOU WILL NEED FRIENDS LIKE YOU HAVE HERE TO TALK TO. CHATTING WITH US CAN HELP RELEIVE SOME OF YOUR STRESS AND THAT WILL BETTER ENABLE YOU TO HELP YOUR MOM. 

WE ARE YOUR FRIENDS WE CAN HELP.


  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by MG_Metalgoddess from Monday, December 01, 2008 10:46:38 AM)
[spapad] Monday, December 01, 2008 7:07:04 PM 
Mutual respect is all that is required to be a member of the Metal Family. It is required though!
[Head banger] Monday, December 01, 2008 6:49:24 PM 
I think that to let the actions of one spoil the fun and friendships that hundreds have forged here would be a great loss. 
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Where AmI from Monday, December 01, 2008 5:49:58 PM)
[.] Monday, December 01, 2008 5:49:58 PM 
I don't know if it's because of people posting here that the website may shut down. It's fine by me if it does, even if I have been coming here for years. If the noticeboard itself shuts down but not the website, I rather ask if it's possible to leave only two threads available for visitors:
Messages To Judas Priest and Messages By Judas Priest and management.
All else can dissappear. 
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by MG_Metalgoddess from Monday, December 01, 2008 10:46:38 AM)
[Deep Freeze] Monday, December 01, 2008 4:48:09 PM 
Well said, Metallark. We do take care of our own here, I assure you. The comments that cretin made were a deliberate attempt to hurt. It was a disgusting, malicious and vile action that deserves every response we have given it.  When Murray reviews it tonight, he will see that.  This hideously poor excuse for a human being will get exactly what is coming to him. In the meantime, we as a membership have done exactly what we should. We have stood up and said, "NO"! We take care of our family. That is our way.
[Metallark] Monday, December 01, 2008 4:15:18 PM 
Amen Freeze!
MG, please don't let the ramblings of others that have less of a human component influence your feelings toward this site. There are many of us here that can empathsize and offer compassion to members given what you are dealing with internally at this moment.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Monday, December 01, 2008 11:20:56 AM)
[~ MG_Metalgoddess~] Monday, December 01, 2008 4:02:48 PM 
[Head banger] Monday, December 01, 2008 12:54:22 PM 
I havent gone back to look at the rest of what he wrote, but in 4 years he managed a total of 30 posts.  I am sure the total contribution of them is squat.  begone with him.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Monday, December 01, 2008 11:20:56 AM)
[guidogodoy] Monday, December 01, 2008 12:44:05 PM 
What a flippin' IDIOT!! Asesine comments like that have no business here or anywhere in my opinion. Add another to those that choose a more positive role here in ignoring that fool.

You have the TRUE defenders behind you, MG. Very sorry to hear about your mother and all my best as well.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by brian dawe from Monday, December 01, 2008 9:49:38 AM)
[Justin Kenny] Monday, December 01, 2008 12:21:01 PM 
Given how soured my mood had become after what had been an otherwise enjoyable holiday....I'll take this opportunity to add the following:

Brian Dawe....consider your days SERIOUSLY NUMBERED as a user here.    See if I'm not kidding.
[Justin Kenny] Monday, December 01, 2008 12:12:29 PM 
In all honesty,  I didn't take part in the initial  'Black Friday'  rush as my wife and eldest daughter opted...they were up at 3:30 that morning and arrived at the Wal-Mart by us just in time for the 4am opening.     It was (by all description) very quick and busy...but the most out of hand region of the store seemed to be reserved to the electronics department  (thank Christ).     Her only M.O. for going there at all was because of the 75%+ off savings that were going on with some of the young miss/adult ladies'  clothing....jeans, tops...shit like that.     The girls have been needing some new clothing for some time now, and my wife managed to capitalize on the sales quotients...picking up said items for both of our daughters,  a quick peruse through toys for some of the younger children in the family,  hopped upon a line that was quite  small and quickly moving..and got the hell outta there.      I later joined my wife to set up the lay-away business we had to take care of at K-Mart...which went surprisingly smooth...but it's some of what I witnessed there, and the things I heard about later that day that really got me to thinking.      I just can't excuse or rationalize such Cro-Mag behaviors as I learned about in Valley Stream (and anywhere else this had happened).     It was a stark reminder of the madness that took place back when the  'Cabbage Patch Kids,'    'Tickle Me Elmo,'    'iPods,'   and other high-demand items that emerged in the last 25 years to better tempt the consumer dollar.       I'm sorry....but when something like that deduces the  "..most advanced race"   of this planet to   mindless, careless, heartless frenzies....it behooves the ENTIRETY of those of us left with SOME semblance of decency and respect to set a new example and tell these retailers/manufacturers to take their  'must-have' items and shove 'em clean up their chocolate wizz-ways.      Yes...I know how ironic that just sounded....LOL!!!

....it's a lot less harmful than hearing about store employees who won't be able to join their own families for the holidays because they DIED in the name of trying to make OTHER people's holiday  "....happy and prosperous."
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Monday, December 01, 2008 11:53:48 AM)
[Deep Freeze] Monday, December 01, 2008 11:53:48 AM 
So very well said (as usual) Justin. I can imagine that you see more than your fair share of public nimrods.
[LORD of TEXAS] Monday, December 01, 2008 11:48:32 AM 
there are people but more sheeple..........mobs are bad....
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Justin Kenny from Monday, December 01, 2008 11:41:34 AM)
[Justin Kenny] Monday, December 01, 2008 11:41:34 AM 
Lord...it never ceases to amaze me what can transpire in a matter of 4 days or so....seems once again this site is in danger of losing otherwise GOOD people because more of the proverbial shit has begun to needlessly annihilate the 'fan'  for which it invariably targets.     

Add to this, the events of the last three days on a more grand scale.     I simply cannot get over the non-sensical bull-rush ethic I heard about this past weekend once 'Black Friday'  hit.      I mean...my God...an older, part-time employee of a Wal-Mart branch in Valley Stream, NY (which is about 40 minutes from where I used to live on Long Island) gets trampled to death just  trying to open the feckin' store!!!??      Then I hear about two employees of another store that were shot (whether or not it had anything to do with the shopping rush has yet to be determined at this time)??      

WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE!!!???  
Alright...I know...it's the biggest shopping day that gets the holiday shopping kicked off in earnest.   It's a pathetic time economically, and a lotta retailers are trying in vain to compete for whatever spending dollar consumers are willing to shell out...I get it...honestly, I do.     But fer Chrissakes...does it REALLY gotta be about life and death??     Must this reduce otherwise rational, sane (I think?) people to regress some 10,000 years in order to obtain one or two coveted items??      I sure hope those who espouse the beliefs of the  'big-bang/evolutionary'  theories  have re-tooled their thinking as to just how advanced a race we humans have evolved into...because some of what I saw and heard would make me wonder like a sonuvabitch were I of the same order of thinking/belief...lemme tell ya!     The only things missing were the overtly hairy bodies, a few mace clubs, and some added grunts and other guttural noises as a means of communicating  (and while I think about it, I did see some of that too)!!!       Know what gets my goat too??   The fact that once the Valley Stream police got the Wal-Mart evacuated, people had the nerve to complain.....you believe this!??    COMPLAIN....even after they heard about what had happened!!!      Then, my wife tells me she overheard that there was a fight in the electronics department in the Wal-Mart by us because someone had the nerve to swipe a TV clean out of the shopping cart  right in front of the person who had it in there in the first place!!!    

Unreal....I mean that....absolutely UNreal.      And people wonder why there are some of this world who have this abject hatred when it comes to holidays.   I don't...I know what it's supposed to represent and what it's supposed to mean, and it will always be that way...but there are a vast number of people who really need a goddamn clue and in a bigger goddamn hurry.
[LORD of TEXAS] Monday, December 01, 2008 11:27:01 AM 
I hope the best for your mom...... MG  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by MG_Metalgoddess from Sunday, November 30, 2008 3:54:36 PM)
Edited at: Monday, December 01, 2008 11:34:45 AM
[Deep Freeze] Monday, December 01, 2008 11:20:56 AM 

Well said, HB. Twice. You see, we cannot allow idiots and losers to undermine all we have built here on this Board. That is all he could have hoped to gain from his comments. As I mentioned, he has but ONE friend in FOUR years on this site. There is a reason for that. He is a loser in life as well.  It is obvious. There is nothing we can do about their appearance, but we can do something about their tenure. We must stand together. We must not allow anyone to tear at us. We ARE family.  MG, you know we are with you. You know that.



Edited at: Monday, December 01, 2008 11:22:07 AM
[Head banger] Monday, December 01, 2008 11:03:03 AM 
the good outnumber the bad.  keep the faith
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by MG_Metalgoddess from Monday, December 01, 2008 10:46:38 AM)
[~ MG_Metalgoddess~] Monday, December 01, 2008 10:46:38 AM 
Yep.. this is exactly what Iam talking about..  Its too bad that these people really have no clue.. 
For reasons such as this and others Its no-wonder this site may shut down..
[Head banger] Monday, December 01, 2008 10:34:00 AM 
assholes, the universal constant.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by _strat_ from Monday, December 01, 2008 10:14:09 AM)
[Deep Freeze] Monday, December 01, 2008 10:26:07 AM 
More than that, strat! Far more.  You know, I think the fact that he has been a "member" for FOUR years and only has ONE friend says it all. And that "one" is probably himself.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by _strat_ from Monday, December 01, 2008 10:14:09 AM)
[_strat_] Monday, December 01, 2008 10:14:09 AM 
Make that two (reports).

IDK, maybe we should raise the required number of respect points? The rate at which these assoles appear is unbelievable.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Monday, December 01, 2008 9:56:51 AM)
[brian  dawe] Monday, December 01, 2008 10:03:29 AM 
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[kiamat] Monday, December 01, 2008 10:02:17 AM 
Thank goodness for the ignore button. Much better.

You're in all our thoughts MG, hope you can come back soon.
[Deep Freeze] Monday, December 01, 2008 9:56:51 AM 
What an utterly disgusting and moronic comment. Have another drink, Quigley. You have been reported as Offensive. Been "nice" knowing you.
(My personal apologies to Murray!)
Edited at: Monday, December 01, 2008 10:08:41 AM
[brian  dawe] Monday, December 01, 2008 9:49:38 AM 
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[Metallark] Monday, December 01, 2008 9:26:37 AM 
Sorry to hear about your mom's news. Know you will be in our thoughts.

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by MG_Metalgoddess from Sunday, November 30, 2008 3:54:36 PM)
[.] Monday, December 01, 2008 12:54:28 AM 
Sorry to hear that. Best wishes to your mum.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by MG_Metalgoddess from Sunday, November 30, 2008 3:54:36 PM)
[Jeanine] Sunday, November 30, 2008 9:36:37 PM 
Freeze, congratulations on your sobriety!  I think it is wonderful that you have realized true unconditional love. What is also amazing and wonderful is that you shared this with us all.  Thank you. 
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Friday, November 28, 2008 11:29:00 AM)
[scorpion01] Sunday, November 30, 2008 9:34:42 PM 
BEST WISHES MG! HOPEFULLY ALL WILL TURNOUT ALRIGHT. OUR THOUGHTS WILL BE WITH YOU!   [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by MG_Metalgoddess from Sunday, November 30, 2008 3:54:36 PM)
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[Soylentgreen4u] Sunday, November 30, 2008 7:54:32 PM 
MY MOTHER ACTUALLY HAD LUNCH WITH THE 'SOUP NAZI' 3 OR 4 YEARS AGO I BELIEVE...I KID YOU NOT,AND I THOUGHT,HOW COOL WAS THAT?...SO AFTER SHE TELLS ME THIS,I SAY "WHY IN THE BLOODY HELL DIDN'T YOU GET A PIC OF THE TWO OF YOU SITTING TOGETHER?" 
(LEAVING OUT THE BLOODY HELL PART OF COURSE)....I MEAN EVERYBODY WHO LOVES SEINFELD,LOVED THAT EPISODE...SO WHEN THE SUBJECT COMES UP AND I TELL PEOPLE MY MOM HAD LUNCH WITH THE SOUP NAZI,I COULD HAVE ACTUALLY PROVED IT!......GRRRRRRRRRR
RRRRRRRRRRRR.......OH WELL... I STILL LOVE MY MOM ANYWAY I GUESS........

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by MG_Metalgoddess from Monday, November 24, 2008 8:48:18 PM)
[~ MG_Metalgoddess~] Sunday, November 30, 2008 3:54:36 PM 

Well first and foremost I would like to say Hello, and say that I missed talking to you all...

My mother made it through the surgery, her cancer had spread.. and they ended up taking 17 additional lymph nodes from her under arm area.. and will be biopsy-ing them, and I wont know the results until this Friday.. And Depending on what type of cancer it is will depend on her treatment... 

I see alot has gone on since I was gone...  And unfortunatly. I see I will not be coming back out here  for a very long time.  I do not want to go through what I went through before on this site.. 

Anywase.. thank you all and e-mail me if you want my hot mail is listed..

Love and the best to all...

MG~

[~ MG_Metalgoddess~] Sunday, November 30, 2008 3:50:08 PM 

Congrats Freeze... Its a hard thing in life to go through... and Iam very proud of you...

Hugs to you always..

MG~

 


  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Friday, November 28, 2008 11:29:00 AM)
[Vaillant 3.0] Sunday, November 30, 2008 1:06:48 PM 
Congrats on your fourth year of sobriety, DF!!! You had the guts to stop your addiction and now you are reaping the benefits!!!!! 
Keep up the good work!!!!!!!!
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Friday, November 28, 2008 11:29:00 AM)
[Deep Freeze] Sunday, November 30, 2008 9:25:08 AM 
HA!!!!! When we were recording in New York a week or so ago, we got our fill of snow!!! Nice and sunny here in Vegas! 71 degrees yesterday!! Truly a "brutal" winter! HAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!!!!!!!
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Mara from Sunday, November 30, 2008 9:21:00 AM)
[Everleigh] Sunday, November 30, 2008 9:21:00 AM 
Hi there.! Great to hear from you. We are supposed to get our first measureable snowfall today.2-4 inches.....of course, everyone will suddenly forget how to drive- perfect for tomorrow's rush hr.
[Deep Freeze] Sunday, November 30, 2008 9:13:41 AM 
Thank you so much.  Mara, my dear! ALWAYS good to see you!!
[Everleigh] Sunday, November 30, 2008 9:11:54 AM 
Freeze, you are truly an inspiration to us all. And.... you keep us on our toes, watching our spellling and our grammar:) Love from Chicago, Mara.
[scorpion01] Saturday, November 29, 2008 11:29:04 PM 
CONGRATULATIONS DF! I'VE ONLY BEEN A MEMBER ON THIS SITE FOR 4 MONTHS OR SO AND YOU ARE ALWAYS SO POSITIVE AND ENLIGHTENING. I WOULD HAVE NEVER THOUGH YOU HAD BEEN THROUGH SO MUCH. YOU HAVE TRUELY COME A LONG WAY.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Friday, November 28, 2008 11:29:00 AM)
[Deep Freeze] Friday, November 28, 2008 5:36:50 PM 
Such kind and generous words from dear, dear friends. I would only hope that I am able to live up to such lofty opinions! Honestly, I cannot begin to tell you how much I appreciate all of your wonderful comments. They mean so very much to me.  This truly is an accomplishment, especially given just how low I was way back then. I do not exaggerate when I tell you I was a true low-life.

The gifts I have received from you all today are very special to me. My very, VERY deepest and most sincere thanks to joe. She knows why. I really think this has been a great holiday. I am SO glad I have all of you with whom to share it!
[WhiskeyWoman] Friday, November 28, 2008 4:57:18 PM 

Hey!  Hello Joe...

Thanks, good to be back.  What was wrong with your kitten!??
Congrats on the bike -- do you have snow tires on it?  (Oops, guess you don't 'em in Africa!  lol...)
Silly me...

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by joedraper from Friday, November 28, 2008 4:03:05 PM)
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[guitardude] Friday, November 28, 2008 4:42:52 PM 

Many Kudos to you Deep Freeze, not only have fought the demon and won,you have much to show for it. the love of a child(grown or not) is second to none. You my friend are truly an Icon on this site!!
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Friday, November 28, 2008 11:29:00 AM)
[joedraper] Friday, November 28, 2008 4:03:05 PM 
This truly is a day to be thankful for:

We have Bev and Whisky Woman back with us,
Freeze reaching the most outstanding acomplishment.
My Kitten is recovering nicely and is looking more like he's going to live,
I'm getting a new mountain bike in the morning...

This is a great day indeed!
[Bev] Friday, November 28, 2008 3:10:21 PM 
Extremely proud of, and excited for, you Freeze - Keep taking care of yourself!
(some men can only hope to aspire to that kind of bravery)
[WhiskeyWoman] Friday, November 28, 2008 2:22:01 PM 

Freeze,

You are forever a gentleman & a scholar.

Enjoy the fruits of your labours, as it sounds like you deserve it.

Some fathers are simply content to continue blaming their children for their own offensive actions in the past, and therefore spend many solitary holidays with no daughters around at all...   Not that I know anything about that ... !

It takes a brave person to admit mistakes and learn from them, this is what makes it easy for those they have offended to forgive and move on.  Until that is done, nothing changes.  You were the catalyst that made your present contentment happen.

You should be proud of yourself.  I am.  (Your daughter and grandchildren are lucky, too...)


  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Friday, November 28, 2008 11:29:00 AM)
[Metallark] Friday, November 28, 2008 1:27:16 PM 
Yes. Congrats on becoming the man that you are today. Journeys are often not understood until they are undertaken. You my friend have taken that road far less travelled and for it you are a better man today. You make us all proud.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Head banger from Friday, November 28, 2008 12:26:57 PM)
[Head banger] Friday, November 28, 2008 12:26:57 PM 
DF, congrats on that wonderfull acomplishment
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Friday, November 28, 2008 11:29:00 AM)
[joedraper] Friday, November 28, 2008 12:23:27 PM 
You've just made me cry. 
This world needs so many more people like you in it.

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Friday, November 28, 2008 11:29:00 AM)
[Deep Freeze] Friday, November 28, 2008 11:29:00 AM 

Ah! Nice and quiet in here now! First, I must say how wonderful it is to see old friends return! Tim, Bev, WW!!! Welcome back and please know that you have been missed. It is my sincere hope that you do not make long absences your habit!

The Princess woke up with a bad cold this morning, courtesy of my two grandsons that brought it along with them! *ugh*  My daughter and the rest just left a while ago and I am, once again, sitting quietly in the living room...alone. It is amazing what turbulence children bring with them and how much we miss it when they go... I do not believe I have ever seen two more stressed out cats! HA!!!   It was truly a wonderful Thanksgiving in spite of the dreadful illness that will soon be passed from the Princess to me. A very small price to pay for the joy of seeing my two, beautiful grandchildren smiling and laughing and asking me a million questions! That, my dear friends, is a joy that I do hope each of you can share someday. And now....silence. Just this computer and the TV. Serenity returns.

This holiday was a gentle reminder of what is really important to me. Family. The love of a daughter that had such a terrible father years ago. The cheer of two adorable grandsons that remind me SO much of me and my brothers. The warmth of an evening by the fire, laughing and remembering that no matter what has happened, there is always redemption. There is love. There is family.  

Yesterday, I celebrated something else that is so very important to me. My fourth year of sobriety. To have my daughter here for that milestone was extra special. For you see, she was the one that endured a childhood without a dad. She had to see things a child should never see. And yet, she loves me. We come together on this special day and we are father and daughter. Something we were not, all those years ago. I treasure this time of my life more than anything. Through clear, sober eyes, I see the woman that was once my daughter. I see the mother that was once my daughter. I see the wife that was once my daughter. And now, I can see the man that was not a dad, but has been redeemed, and I am proud. I am thankful.



 

[Head banger] Thursday, November 27, 2008 10:44:13 PM 
I am even further north than I should be.  not white, had a little snow, but its gone, been a nice fall.  work, what fun... not
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by TIMBONI from Thursday, November 27, 2008 9:13:47 PM)
[TIMBONI] Thursday, November 27, 2008 9:13:47 PM 

Busy as usual.  Soccer tourney this weekend.  5 games in 2 days.  Should be interesting to say the least.  As usual, I can't say no to the kids and have "inherited" the assistant coaching job for my son's soccer team.   Having a blast !  I'm actually getting into some real kind of shape again and the kids love seeing the old man out there with them.  They get pissed at me, but they respect the fact that I can walk the walk.  How's life in the Great White North ? 


  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Head banger from Thursday, November 27, 2008 8:39:02 PM)
[Head banger] Thursday, November 27, 2008 8:39:02 PM 
good to see you again, how have you been?
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by TIMBONI from Thursday, November 27, 2008 2:31:25 PM)
[guitardude] Thursday, November 27, 2008 8:37:37 PM 
Happy Thanksgiving everyone!!
Nice to see Bev and Timboni back!!
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