I do not think it will ever cease to amaze me how one member can make an off-handed comment and our entire group goes into a state of semi-hysteria!  Additionally, while I do not know who our imposter friend actually is, I can concur with his/her repeated posts; Murray is NOT closing the Board! HA!!!!!!!!!!!! Come now, folks! We all know what rumors can do. Ye GODS!!!

How many of you remember the "Shut-Down Rumor of '05"?? Or the "Site will Close Rumor" of '06?  HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! COME ON!! Until Murray himself actually posts such a statement ON HIS WEBMASTER Thread, I can guarantee you there is NO one particular member with the power to close this site, REGARDLESS of their distaste for it or what we say on a daily basis!

Over the last few years, we have had complaints about non-Priest related conversation. We have had complaints about idiots that come here solely to cause trouble. We have had complaints about imposters. We have had complaints about stalkers. The list goes on and on. NONE of this has given Murray a reason to close the site. Why? Because this Board belongs to JUDAS PRIEST. It is a business vehicle in that they use it to keep fans updated on their shows, latest news, CDs, etc.  It is part of doing business as a professional music group.

We have endured so much here and always come out stronger. We have had our fair share of morons and we even have members that disagree with others. Geee whiz!  A difference of opinion!?!?! WOW!!  I fear that is part of life, my friends. Deal with it. Let's place the panic button back in our drawer and enjoy the holidays! We have a whole new year ahead with MORE excellent Priest music to come!  2009 is going to ROCK!!!!!!

DP - I HAD A FRIEND IN MY BASEBALL PLAYING DAYS. HE WAS A HOCKEY PLAYER AND WAS THE CATCHER OF OUR COLLEGE BASEBALL TEAM. WE COULD BE LOSING PRETTY BAD OR BE IN A TOUGH SITUATION IN A GAME, BUT HE WOULD COME FORWARD AND RELAX EVERYONE. CALM EVERYONE DOWN AND REFOCUS US. WHEN HE SAID EVERYTHING WAS GOING TO BE OK WE BELIEVED IT AND IT WAS.

YOU REMIND ME OF HIM.

		Deep Freeze wrote:
		I do not think it will ever cease to amaze me how one member can make an off-handed comment and our entire group goes into a state of semi-hysteria!  Additionally, while I do not know who our imposter friend actually is, I can concur with his/her repeated posts; Murray is NOT closing the Board! HA!!!!!!!!!!!! Come now, folks! We all know what rumors can do. Ye GODS!!! How many of you remember the "Shut-Down Rumor of '05"?? Or the "Site will Close Rumor" of '06?  HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! COME ON!! Until Murray himself actually posts such a statement ON HIS WEBMASTER Thread, I can guarantee you there is NO one particular member with the power to close this site, REGARDLESS of their distaste for it or what we say on a daily basis! Over the last few years, we have had complaints about non-Priest related conversation. We have had complaints about idiots that come here solely to cause trouble. We have had complaints about imposters. We have had complaints about stalkers. The list goes on and on. NONE of this has given Murray a reason to close the site. Why? Because this Board belongs to JUDAS PRIEST. It is a business vehicle in that they use it to keep fans updated on their shows, latest news, CDs, etc.  It is part of doing business as a professional music group. We have endured so much here and always come out stronger. We have had our fair share of morons and we even have members that disagree with others. Geee whiz!  A difference of opinion!?!?! WOW!!  I fear that is part of life, my friends. Deal with it. Let's place the panic button back in our drawer and enjoy the holidays! We have a whole new year ahead with MORE excellent Priest music to come!  2009 is going to ROCK!!!!!!   Edited at: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 9:14:19 AM

DP - I HAD A FRIEND IN MY BASEBALL PLAYING DAYS. HE WAS A HOCKEY PLAYER AND WAS THE CATCHER OF OUR COLLEGE BASEBALL TEAM. WE COULD BE LOSING PRETTY BAD OR BE IN A TOUGH SITUATION IN A GAME, BUT HE WOULD COME FORWARD AND RELAX EVERYONE. CALM EVERYONE DOWN AND REFOCUS US. WHEN HE SAID EVERYTHING WAS GOING TO BE OK WE BELIEVED IT AND IT WAS.

YOU REMIND ME OF HIM.

		Deep Freeze wrote:
		I do not think it will ever cease to amaze me how one member can make an off-handed comment and our entire group goes into a state of semi-hysteria!  Additionally, while I do not know who our imposter friend actually is, I can concur with his/her repeated posts; Murray is NOT closing the Board! HA!!!!!!!!!!!! Come now, folks! We all know what rumors can do. Ye GODS!!! How many of you remember the "Shut-Down Rumor of '05"?? Or the "Site will Close Rumor" of '06?  HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! COME ON!! Until Murray himself actually posts such a statement ON HIS WEBMASTER Thread, I can guarantee you there is NO one particular member with the power to close this site, REGARDLESS of their distaste for it or what we say on a daily basis! Over the last few years, we have had complaints about non-Priest related conversation. We have had complaints about idiots that come here solely to cause trouble. We have had complaints about imposters. We have had complaints about stalkers. The list goes on and on. NONE of this has given Murray a reason to close the site. Why? Because this Board belongs to JUDAS PRIEST. It is a business vehicle in that they use it to keep fans updated on their shows, latest news, CDs, etc.  It is part of doing business as a professional music group. We have endured so much here and always come out stronger. We have had our fair share of morons and we even have members that disagree with others. Geee whiz!  A difference of opinion!?!?! WOW!!  I fear that is part of life, my friends. Deal with it. Let's place the panic button back in our drawer and enjoy the holidays! We have a whole new year ahead with MORE excellent Priest music to come!  2009 is going to ROCK!!!!!!   Edited at: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 9:14:19 AM

I do not think it will ever cease to amaze me how one member can make an off-handed comment and our entire group goes into a state of semi-hysteria!  Additionally, while I do not know who our imposter friend actually is, I can concur with his/her repeated posts; Murray is NOT closing the Board! HA!!!!!!!!!!!! Come now, folks! We all know what rumors can do. Ye GODS!!!

How many of you remember the "Shut-Down Rumor of '05"?? Or the "Site will Close Rumor" of '06?  HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! COME ON!! Until Murray himself actually posts such a statement ON HIS WEBMASTER Thread, I can guarantee you there is NO one particular member with the power to close this site, REGARDLESS of their distaste for it or what we say on a daily basis!

Over the last few years, we have had complaints about non-Priest related conversation. We have had complaints about idiots that come here solely to cause trouble. We have had complaints about imposters. We have had complaints about stalkers. The list goes on and on. NONE of this has given Murray a reason to close the site. Why? Because this Board belongs to JUDAS PRIEST. It is a business vehicle in that they use it to keep fans updated on their shows, latest news, CDs, etc.  It is part of doing business as a professional music group.

We have endured so much here and always come out stronger. We have had our fair share of morons and we even have members that disagree with others. Geee whiz!  A difference of opinion!?!?! WOW!!  I fear that is part of life, my friends. Deal with it. Let's place the panic button back in our drawer and enjoy the holidays! We have a whole new year ahead with MORE excellent Priest music to come!  2009 is going to ROCK!!!!!!

I'll throw in my two cents to the subject as a member of the other side of the age spectrum: young, stupid and still figuring out how the world works. 

I know my posts tend to be nothing but sinful pics of the band, word games, chatting, "spur of the moment" stuff and what I'm listening to at the moment, but I still remember the main reason why I came here in the first place: the fact that none of my friends have heard, or are into, Judas Priest. I come here in order to be at home with the people who love Judas Priest as much as I do. Finding Judas Priest fans whom I could talk to face-to-face is pretty rare in my part of the world, so this site is a helpful tool in finding such fans. In other words, it would really kill me if the Noticeboard closes down. Where AmI, I'm pretty sure that your idea of having only threads containing messages from JP and to JP is how the Noticeboard first began, but it just grew into the complex, close-knit, chatty community that exists today. There just isn't enough Judas Priest fanatics out there, dang it!! This is the place where friendships begin and frequently stay, because our love for the band is what keeps us here, random talk and everything. Granted, I'm not the person who broke a bone or two during a Priest concert, but the need for Judas Priest in my life is alive and kicking. Heck, I listen to them everyday!! 

		Where AmI wrote:
		I see your point and respect it: those are your choices to make as to how you contact friends. Everybody has their own preferences though I fail to see how this website is any more personal than the cellphone texting, email and instant messaging and I also fail to see how a different jp.com would change what you have going on with your friends and your lifestyle. I understand you and at the same time I don't get it. I would assume that people don't adapt themselves to my preferences, so I don't expect them to. I really do think that many times this place is just talking to increase post count, and that is all. Unfortunately it seems a respect issue is directly related to how many worthless posts someone has under their belt too. My deal is: In November Judas Priest toured South America. How many south american heavy metal solid fans have decided to say hello here? Few, and how many really attended the concerts? Bunches. Where are the photos? The reviews? The active engagement of Judas Priest members here. KK Downing at least is making an effort but he is only one-fifth of JP and he's got his own website that he controls better. The other one is Rob Halford. Same thing. They don't seem to take the internet as their prime means to connect to people. They use it but it's by no means the only way. Thankfully, in that respect they're somewhat normal. I really appreciated some feedback from Rob Halford a few months ago here. It felt for a moment like a good effort to please computer addicted morons like me. My point is, though you are a very agreeable, thankfully intelligent and witty individual to whom is a pleasure to reply and whose posts I enjoy reading, guido, I still come here for news, photos, artwork by fans and overall fandom stuff and not to read through loads of small petty talk, nude pics of women, rude posts and such that the ignore button doesn't seem to keep me from reading through. I really don't like to feel an outsider to someone's conversations in a public forum where it's supposed to be for all. If only Messages From Jp and Messages to Jp were the only features available, I think there would be a clearer ideal behind this place, and the overall personality disorders that shine through like a beacon in the night around here (guilty) would not be so visible. The personal messaging in the website allows you to contact your friends in prety much the same way you are doing now publicly. It simply avoids everybody who isn't interested to read it too.  As you can see, popularity isn't my main concern I can't stop from speaking my mind. Edited at: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 7:10:37 PM

ok people....
ITS BEEN BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION THAT THE CHIEF WEBMASTER
HAS TAKEN CARE OF THE SITUATION!!!!
THE DRAMA IS OVER !!!!
COMMENCE TO POSTING!!!!

Well FIRST: that is NOT strat! (Not OUR strat)
Second: I was in a state of sheer and utter despair and cannot be held accountable for my spelling faux pas!
Third:  GO FEED YOUR BIRD!!!
HAAAAAAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!  

  (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Tuesday, December 02, 2008 12:25:59 PM)

		guidogodoy wrote:
		Haa! Good edit. You would now have owed Strat a kidney had you not fixed it!      Deep Freeze wrote:   There are so many, my dear. So many. Umm, guido. Go feed your bird.....       HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!      WhiskeyWoman wrote:   Okay, Freeze...  Get up off your knees!  Considering your fragile condition (cadaver bone fusions and all...) it's going to be nothing less than painful and awkward, if not impossible, getting back up to standing!  Can you even move?  (Omg, what have you done!?) Rest easy, my friend...  I have been avoiding it, just because there is nothing I can say that will come close to expressing what a loser I think the guy is.  Well, not without offending you with profuse profanity!  lol...  Has he nothing better to do?  Poor fellow.  I am glad, however, that some people gave him a run for his money.  But, you're right.  It should die it's inevitable death. Just what the world needs... another idiot.       Deep Freeze wrote:   You know, this may not be the proper Thread in which to make this comment but I have to say something!!!!   To ALL of you that have or continue to post in the moronic, idiotic, ridiculous, inane, stupid, unworthy, assinine, dumb, mindless, foolish and wasteful Thread regarding Rob Halford being a "thief", PLEASE, PLEASE , PLEASE just STOP!  Do not de-value yourselves and lend credence to this waste of human flesh!!!  I am BEGGING you! Literally, on my feeble and very painful knees, begging you to STOP!!  Let him and his attempt at gaining attention die the horrible death it so richly deserves!!!!!!!! Thank you.  Edited at: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 11:52:36 AM

Already did.................. HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   
Good Day, my dear!!

(Quoting Message by WhiskeyWoman from Tuesday, December 02, 2008 12:37:10 PM)

		WhiskeyWoman wrote:
		My dear Freeze, Apparently, you're still a bit flustered by yet another 'faux pas'... ahem... (... there's still time for an edit!)      Deep Freeze wrote:   Well FIRST: that is NOT strat! (Not OUR strat) Second: I was in a state of sheer and utter despair and cannot be held accountable for my spelling faux paux! Third:  GO FEED YOUR BIRD!!! HAAAAAAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!      guidogodoy wrote:   Haa! Good edit. You would now have owed Strat a kidney had you not fixed it!      Deep Freeze wrote:   There are so many, my dear. So many. Umm, guido. Go feed your bird.....       HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!      WhiskeyWoman wrote:   Okay, Freeze...  Get up off your knees!  Considering your fragile condition (cadaver bone fusions and all...) it's going to be nothing less than painful and awkward, if not impossible, getting back up to standing!  Can you even move?  (Omg, what have you done!?) Rest easy, my friend...  I have been avoiding it, just because there is nothing I can say that will come close to expressing what a loser I think the guy is.  Well, not without offending you with profuse profanity!  lol...  Has he nothing better to do?  Poor fellow.  I am glad, however, that some people gave him a run for his money.  But, you're right.  It should die it's inevitable death. Just what the world needs... another idiot.       Deep Freeze wrote:   You know, this may not be the proper Thread in which to make this comment but I have to say something!!!!   To ALL of you that have or continue to post in the moronic, idiotic, ridiculous, inane, stupid, unworthy, assinine, dumb, mindless, foolish and wasteful Thread regarding Rob Halford being a "thief", PLEASE, PLEASE , PLEASE just STOP!  Do not de-value yourselves and lend credence to this waste of human flesh!!!  I am BEGGING you! Literally, on my feeble and very painful knees, begging you to STOP!!  Let him and his attempt at gaining attention die the horrible death it so richly deserves!!!!!!!! Thank you.  Edited at: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 11:52:36 AM

Okay, Freeze... 

Get up off your knees!  Considering your fragile condition (cadaver bone fusions and all...) it's going to be nothing less than painful and awkward, if not impossible, getting back up to standing!  Can you even move?  (Omg, what have you done!?)

Rest easy, my friend...  I have been avoiding it, just because there is nothing I can say that will come close to expressing what a loser I think the guy is.  Well, not without offending you with profuse profanity!  lol...  Has he nothing better to do?  Poor fellow.  I am glad, however, that some people gave him a run for his money.  But, you're right.  It should die it's inevitable death.

Just what the world needs... another idiot. 

		Deep Freeze wrote:
		You know, this may not be the proper Thread in which to make this comment but I have to say something!!!!   To ALL of you that have or continue to post in the moronic, idiotic, ridiculous, inane, stupid, unworthy, assinine, dumb, mindless, foolish and wasteful Thread regarding Rob Halford being a "thief", PLEASE, PLEASE , PLEASE just STOP!  Do not de-value yourselves and lend credence to this waste of human flesh!!!  I am BEGGING you! Literally, on my feeble and very painful knees, begging you to STOP!!  Let him and his attempt at gaining attention die the horrible death it so richly deserves!!!!!!!! Thank you.  Edited at: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 11:52:36 AM

ok people....enough of the noticeboard is closing drama....the board is not being shut down...
I'VE BEEN IN CLOSE CONTACT WITH THE CHIEF WEBMASTER
WE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING THE SITUATION!!!
WE HAVE COME TO THE AGREEMENT
THATTHE NOTICEBOARD IS NOT CLOSING!!!
I REPEAT !!!
THE NOTICBOARD IS NOT CLOSING!!!
thanks for your attention!!!

ok people....enough of the noticeboard is closing drama....the board is not being shut down...
I'VE BEEN IN CLOSE CONTACT WITH THE CHIEF WEBMASTER
WE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING THE SITUATION!!!
WE HAVE COME TO THE AGREEMENT
THATTHE NOTICEBOARD IS NOT CLOSING!!!
I REPEAT !!!
THE NOTICBOARD IS NOT CLOSING!!!
thanks for your attention!!!

Well first and foremost I would like to say Hello, and say that I missed talking to you all...

My mother made it through the surgery, her cancer had spread.. and they ended up taking 17 additional lymph nodes from her under arm area.. and will be biopsy-ing them, and I wont know the results until this Friday.. And Depending on what type of cancer it is will depend on her treatment... 

I see alot has gone on since I was gone...  And unfortunatly. I see I will not be coming back out here  for a very long time.  I do not want to go through what I went through before on this site.. 

Anywase.. thank you all and e-mail me if you want my hot mail is listed..

Love and the best to all...

MG~

I do not think I could I have said it any better, guido. What wonderful words and remarkable sentiment. And how true your words! I know there are members that would just as soon see this site closed. Many of these same people would prefer to see my mouth closed as well. Such is their  position and I will respect it. I recall a very dear friend of mine, Shawn in Canada, that expressed the desire to see the site closed. His thought was that this place had become a big "chatroom" and had lost its appeal as a Priest site. He lamented the daily babble about all things "Un-Priest". He ended up leaving this site.  I respected his opinion then, and I respect those today. But I do not agree. This is one of the great beauties of friendship; we need not always agree.I believe many more will come and go. The choice is theirs. (I use e-mail. I have a cell phone, by the way!  These are all tools for work more than they are anything else.) 

This place is more than just a band's website to me. It is through this site that I have met, face to face, some of the most wonderful and dear friends I have ever known. I have met, electronically, many others.  There is just no way that I can place a value on that.  I think a certain element among us have forgotten the importance of friendship. Perhaps their lives have become so hectic with the many other responsibilities we face that they are no longer able to remember the joy of seeing a dear friend? Of having someone to talk to when you need them? Of sharing a laugh? Of knowing what friends and being a friend really means?

The day I came here, I met some great people. Some of them are gone now. Some of them are still here.  A couple are very close to me. Phil (Metal Meltdown) is as close to a "best friend" as I have had in twenty years. We are very close and that friendship means SO much to me. Without this Board, I would have never met him. I would have never had the opportunity to do the wonderful music we have created! I won't even get into all the other tremendous aspects of happiness that has brought along!

I guess the most important thing I can impart from this post is this; I truly love you all. You really do mean something to me. ALL of you. Whether or not we agree is irrelevant to me. I am grateful for you. I learn from you. Occasionally, I lean on you. You know as much about me as any friends I have ever had. You have been here during some of my most difficult moments. There is a certain theraputic value to that. To be able to tell you things. To share. And all of this has been facilitated by the place we know as Judas Priest.com.

		guidogodoy wrote:
		I'll jump in with and answer, if I may, as it matters a great deal to me if JP is up or down. Most know me as one very much into tech. I am a programmer, set up computer networks, just finished building three computers in as many days and can (sadly?) tell you how the next quad-core "Nehalem" Intel chip will fare against the nanosecond "future" of computing. That said, I am one of the only people I know who does not own a cellphone! I have NEVER been one for chat even in the beginnings (yeah, I know FORTRAN and can change tubes on the ENIAC! LOL!). Quite frankly, I feel no need nor do I have anything so important to say as to be in contact with someone so constantly.  Email, to me, is a task. A chore. How I deal with people on a day-to-day basis at work. WORK being the key word. They demand a response. IM conversations? To me, they are like cellphones (and chat, for that matter). They are "non-substantive," IMO. Perhaps a laugh or two on the good days but, again, a chore to me. I may come across as a troglodyte (anyone who knows me knows that I am cutting edge on most everything) or perhaps an anomaly of the traditional tech-nerd. Still, for as much as tech marches on, I appreciate the human contact all the more. Wanna know the saddest thing I saw last Ozzfest? The masses who were there speaking on the phone. I am almost ashamed to have taken so many pictures at the last Priest concert. Probably what led to my injury. First time I got a camera into a show while trying to headbang. "Don't you email your friends" you ask? IM? IRC? Nope. I might email a friend from time to time but no IM nor IRC. I just don't have the time to be on the same schedule as them. HERE, however, I can be writing at 1am, post pictures, make friends both here at home and ESPECIALLY abroad. Necro sending recipes to us, for example? How would I have found such a thing otherwise? I cherish the noticeboard for it doesn't "demand" my time. I give it freely and whenever I am able. I very much appreciate the opportunity to have that choice.    (Quoting Message by Where AmI from Tuesday, December 02, 2008 12:24:48 AM)   Where AmI wrote:   Don't you email your friends and have IM conversations or use IRC? Honestly, there is no reason why you should stop talking to your friends now that you have them. It shouldn't matter that jp.com is up or down. Where there is an ending, there may be a new begining. A far better, sharper, improved begining. A slick, shiny - and technologically advanced - begining to reflect the changing times. If for that to happen, jp.com has to be sacrificed, so be it. I'll be the first one to hammer the nails on the cross.      Head banger wrote:   I think that to let the actions of one spoil the fun and friendships that hundreds have forged here would be a great loss.       Where AmI wrote:   I don't know if it's because of people posting here that the website may shut down. It's fine by me if it does, even if I have been coming here for years. If the noticeboard itself shuts down but not the website, I rather ask if it's possible to leave only two threads available for visitors: Messages To Judas Priest and Messages By Judas Priest and management. All else can dissappear.       MG_Metalgoddess wrote:   Yep.. this is exactly what Iam talking about..  Its too bad that these people really have no clue..  For reasons such as this and others Its no-wonder this site may shut down.. Edited at: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 1:12:41 AM

Don't you email your friends and have IM conversations or use IRC? Honestly, there is no reason why you should stop talking to your friends now that you have them. It shouldn't matter that jp.com is up or down.
Where there is an ending, there may be a new begining. A far better, sharper, improved begining. A slick, shiny - and technologically advanced - begining to reflect the changing times.
If for that to happen, jp.com has to be sacrificed, so be it. I'll be the first one to hammer the nails on the cross.

		Head banger wrote:
		I think that to let the actions of one spoil the fun and friendships that hundreds have forged here would be a great loss.       Where AmI wrote: I don't know if it's because of people posting here that the website may shut down. It's fine by me if it does, even if I have been coming here for years. If the noticeboard itself shuts down but not the website, I rather ask if it's possible to leave only two threads available for visitors: Messages To Judas Priest and Messages By Judas Priest and management. All else can dissappear.       MG_Metalgoddess wrote: Yep.. this is exactly what Iam talking about..  Its too bad that these people really have no clue..  For reasons such as this and others Its no-wonder this site may shut down..