| [guidogodoy] Tuesday, November 23, 2010 3:21:20 PM | |
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I've never been to Ben Gurion Airport in Israel either but I know a lot of people who have both from this country and others. As I understand, Israel isn't exactly gun-shy there either. Their airport security isn't made up of a great number of ill-trained, minimum wage employees. From all accounts, you best show up 3 hours early to the airport and be prepared to have any electronic device taken away or even destroyed based on the slightest suspicion. A friend who worked with the Spanish Embassy and is used to such treatment even described Tel Aviv as both "polite" yet "unpleasant." Either you know and are travelling with an Israeli, ARE one or are in a tour group. All others are highly suspect.
450 airports in the USA vs. 1 in Israel hardly makes this a viable option, though. Puffer technology or, better yet, just freeze everyone and treat 'em like freight. No bomb threats, no bad food, not even the problem of getting sick from a fellow passenger if they use enough Saran Wrap. [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Head banger from Tuesday, November 23, 2010 2:54:49 PM)
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they also have people with guns present all over the place, but there are no lines. I dont know, have never been there.
I will say this for having people armed at every counter. when I was in cuba and I saw the guys delivering to a bank or filling a bank machine and 5 guys with AK47s staring down everyone who was near, I crossed the street to avoid them. still a 1 hour lineup is bullshit. that bothers me more than the pat down or the guy eyballing my junk on a screen.
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The Israeli airport security system is less physically intrusive but is based on racial profiling. Such a system would never be authorized here in the US as, unlike Israel, minorities have strong anti-discrimination rights. More importantly, they have stronger financial and political backing in terms of lobby groups to protect those rights whereas the "common" US citizen does not.
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| I guess it doesnt bother me, but I am sure there are better ways. Isreal doesnt have planes hijacked or bombed, or lineups, patdowns etc. |
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| [Head banger] Tuesday, November 23, 2010 2:54:49 PM | |
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they also have people with guns present all over the place, but there are no lines. I dont know, have never been there.
I will say this for having people armed at every counter. when I was in cuba and I saw the guys delivering to a bank or filling a bank machine and 5 guys with AK47s staring down everyone who was near, I crossed the street to avoid them. still a 1 hour lineup is bullshit. that bothers me more than the pat down or the guy eyballing my junk on a screen.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Tuesday, November 23, 2010 2:17:05 PM)| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | The Israeli airport security system is less physically intrusive but is based on racial profiling. Such a system would never be authorized here in the US as, unlike Israel, minorities have strong anti-discrimination rights. More importantly, they have stronger financial and political backing in terms of lobby groups to protect those rights whereas the "common" US citizen does not.
| | | Head banger wrote: | | | I guess it doesnt bother me, but I am sure there are better ways. Isreal doesnt have planes hijacked or bombed, or lineups, patdowns etc. |
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| [guidogodoy] Tuesday, November 23, 2010 2:17:05 PM | |
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The Israeli airport security system is less physically intrusive but is based on racial profiling. Such a system would never be authorized here in the US as, unlike Israel, minorities have strong anti-discrimination rights. More importantly, they have stronger financial and political backing in terms of lobby groups to protect those rights whereas the "common" US citizen does not.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Head banger from Tuesday, November 23, 2010 1:48:27 PM)| | | Head banger wrote: | | | I guess it doesnt bother me, but I am sure there are better ways. Isreal doesnt have planes hijacked or bombed, or lineups, patdowns etc. |
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| [Head banger] Tuesday, November 23, 2010 1:48:27 PM | |
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| I guess it doesnt bother me, but I am sure there are better ways. Isreal doesnt have planes hijacked or bombed, or lineups, patdowns etc. |
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| [guidogodoy] Tuesday, November 23, 2010 12:34:07 PM | |
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Only if you are lucky. 80% still go through regular metal detectors. 
I love the argument I have seen about "don't like it, don't fly." Keep that in mind when you need to get home. Remember, the backscatters are here, not there. Hey, you can always opt to take a boat home.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Becks from Tuesday, November 23, 2010 12:07:51 PM)| | | Becks wrote: | | I'm sure I will find out how bad this 'pat down' is around April - hoping to travel to the States then, lol.
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Has anyone actually flown in the US lately? At least been keeping up with the "don't touch my junk, bro" issue? It is certainly a more invasive patdown. The TSA has been a disaster since it took over (surprise surprise) and can't even keep their own ranks safe having given numerous screening jobs and even pilot lessons to illegals. Even better, they have yet to catch a soul.
Everyone is for safety, but this is a complete joke in the guise of "protection." I hope that opt-out day does something tomorrow. |
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| [Becks] Tuesday, November 23, 2010 12:07:51 PM | |
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I'm sure I will find out how bad this 'pat down' is around April - hoping to travel to the States then, lol.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Tuesday, November 23, 2010 11:42:41 AM)| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Has anyone actually flown in the US lately? At least been keeping up with the "don't touch my junk, bro" issue? It is certainly a more invasive patdown. The TSA has been a disaster since it took over (surprise surprise) and can't even keep their own ranks safe having given numerous screening jobs and even pilot lessons to illegals. Even better, they have yet to catch a soul.
Everyone is for safety, but this is a complete joke in the guise of "protection." I hope that opt-out day does something tomorrow. |
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| [guidogodoy] Tuesday, November 23, 2010 11:42:41 AM | |
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Has anyone actually flown in the US lately? At least been keeping up with the "don't touch my junk, bro" issue? It is certainly a more invasive patdown. The TSA has been a disaster since it took over (surprise surprise) and can't even keep their own ranks safe having given numerous screening jobs and even pilot lessons to illegals. Even better, they have yet to catch a soul.
Everyone is for safety, but this is a complete joke in the guise of "protection." I hope that opt-out day does something tomorrow. |
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| [Head banger] Tuesday, November 23, 2010 11:00:58 AM | |
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| beter nude and/or felt up than dead |
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| [guitardude] Tuesday, November 23, 2010 10:48:57 AM | |
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| I know this whole screening procedure is a pain in the ass, but let`s not forget why it`s being done. |
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| [Head banger] Tuesday, November 23, 2010 8:24:56 AM | |
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I am sure its no more invasive than the patdown that I got going to the system of a down concert. the good news there was that women could only be searched by female screeners, but since there were no girls in line I got felt up by a fairly atractive girl, not the guy who looked like he never bathed. good fun. they checked you close enough to know your religion....
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Monday, November 22, 2010 10:25:06 PM)| | | spapad wrote: | | As Thankgiving approaches, for those who shall be flying, are you looking forward to the body scan or the complete "pat down"?
Nothing like being felt up at the airport by strange people wearing latex gloves.
I'm thinking I would go for full body scan. Afterall, if you look at enough naked bodies, like in art class, they all just look like nothing but objects. |
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| [guidogodoy] Monday, November 22, 2010 10:27:32 PM | |
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Nothing better than a good dose of "backscatter" radiation, I say! 
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Monday, November 22, 2010 10:25:06 PM)| | | spapad wrote: | | As Thankgiving approaches, for those who shall be flying, are you looking forward to the body scan or the complete "pat down"?
Nothing like being felt up at the airport by strange people wearing latex gloves.
I'm thinking I would go for full body scan. Afterall, if you look at enough naked bodies, like in art class, they all just look like nothing but objects. |
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| [spapad] Monday, November 22, 2010 10:25:06 PM | |
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As Thankgiving approaches, for those who shall be flying, are you looking forward to the body scan or the complete "pat down"?
Nothing like being felt up at the airport by strange people wearing latex gloves.
I'm thinking I would go for full body scan. Afterall, if you look at enough naked bodies, like in art class, they all just look like nothing but objects. |
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| [Necroticist] Monday, November 22, 2010 7:39:22 PM | |
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No - ain't got the greeting....am guessing is no loss tho
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Monday, November 22, 2010 5:31:03 PM)| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Hope she sent the Metal God's xmas greeting too...if not, Merry Metal Xmas!
| | | Necroticist wrote: | | Save yaself the bother...lol -Lady Erzebeth sent me a link...it's actually good!!! Rob hits some good highs...
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Never mind...see you got it.
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| Um...just an observation...apparently Fight did a single called 'Christmas Ride' - despite all attempts i can NOT find it online...does anyone know more?? |
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| [Vaillant 3.0] Monday, November 22, 2010 7:00:19 PM | |
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Where'm I at? I'm on the Internets, watching silly videos and checking out all the loverly ladies and gents here. 
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by zomby from Monday, November 22, 2010 2:56:05 AM)| | | zomby wrote: | | | hey vailient where you at |
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| [spapad] Monday, November 22, 2010 6:33:17 PM | |
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Let's hope it was a metal x-mas greeting and not something small, fury, and boiled.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Monday, November 22, 2010 5:31:03 PM)| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Hope she sent the Metal God's xmas greeting too...if not, Merry Metal Xmas!
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| Um...just an observation...apparently Fight did a single called 'Christmas Ride' - despite all attempts i can NOT find it online...does anyone know more?? |
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| [guidogodoy] Monday, November 22, 2010 5:31:03 PM | |
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Hope she sent the Metal God's xmas greeting too...if not, Merry Metal Xmas!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Necroticist from Monday, November 22, 2010 5:29:25 PM)| | | Necroticist wrote: | | Save yaself the bother...lol -Lady Erzebeth sent me a link...it's actually good!!! Rob hits some good highs...
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| Um...just an observation...apparently Fight did a single called 'Christmas Ride' - despite all attempts i can NOT find it online...does anyone know more?? |
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| [Necroticist] Monday, November 22, 2010 5:29:25 PM | |
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Save yaself the bother...lol -Lady Erzebeth sent me a link...it's actually good!!! Rob hits some good highs...
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Monday, November 22, 2010 5:25:30 PM)| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Never mind...see you got it.
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| Um...just an observation...apparently Fight did a single called 'Christmas Ride' - despite all attempts i can NOT find it online...does anyone know more?? |
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| [guidogodoy] Monday, November 22, 2010 5:25:30 PM | |
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Never mind...see you got it.
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| Um...just an observation...apparently Fight did a single called 'Christmas Ride' - despite all attempts i can NOT find it online...does anyone know more?? |
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| [Necroticist] Monday, November 22, 2010 11:37:53 AM | |
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| Um...just an observation...apparently Fight did a single called 'Christmas Ride' - despite all attempts i can NOT find it online...does anyone know more?? |
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| [Zomby] Monday, November 22, 2010 2:56:37 AM | |
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