| [Becks] Sunday, April 24, 2011 4:27:24 PM | |
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Just because we're not crucifying the band the way you are doesn't mean we're not taking it seriously you twit. As for being lied to, if you have read Rob Halfords statement, they had waiting so long in the hope that KK would COME BACK. They finally realised the clock had ticked too long. It has been poorly handled by Priest MANAGEMENT, but I for one refuse to shit all over the band and treat them like crap because of this.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Daniela P from Sunday, April 24, 2011 4:19:26 PM)| |  | Daniela P wrote: | | It's funny... either people are totally lobotomized or they haven't been following this at all. It's amazing how lightly people are taking the situation- all I see is comments about how "it will be good and I will support the band".
How can it be "good" when you've been lied to for 6 months you suckers.... Unbelievable.
And to think that some no-name dude is going to make the show better...? The best he can do is stay the hell out of the spotlight as much as he can and let Ian step out for a change. But it still won't change much. If I was in Priest, I wouldn't have been able to even walk out on a stage and look the fans in the eyes. I would have been too ashamed of what's being done in the name of Judas Priest.
| | | spapad wrote: | | I don't want to pour salt into wounds, but what would a show be like with a guitar player almost 30 years their junior on stage? I hate to say it, but I think he is going to step the pace up! This might be the most energetic we have seen Priest in years. Don't get me wrong, you know how much I love KK and if you don't just read my profile quote. But the prospect of new blood does pose the opportunity of more action, and a hard driven show?
Just putting the idea out there. A new way to look at things. Instead of demise, what about rebirth? Could happen.
KK, you know I will always love you! Would beg you on my knees to come back! But if no, I must look forward to something positive coming from this.
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| [Daniela P] Sunday, April 24, 2011 4:19:26 PM | |
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It's funny... either people are totally lobotomized or they haven't been following this at all. It's amazing how lightly people are taking the situation- all I see is comments about how "it will be good and I will support the band".
How can it be "good" when you've been lied to for 6 months you suckers.... Unbelievable.
And to think that some no-name dude is going to make the show better...? The best he can do is stay the hell out of the spotlight as much as he can and let Ian step out for a change. But it still won't change much. If I was in Priest, I wouldn't have been able to even walk out on a stage and look the fans in the eyes. I would have been too ashamed of what's being done in the name of Judas Priest.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Sunday, April 24, 2011 3:29:02 PM)| | | spapad wrote: | | I don't want to pour salt into wounds, but what would a show be like with a guitar player almost 30 years their junior on stage? I hate to say it, but I think he is going to step the pace up! This might be the most energetic we have seen Priest in years. Don't get me wrong, you know how much I love KK and if you don't just read my profile quote. But the prospect of new blood does pose the opportunity of more action, and a hard driven show?
Just putting the idea out there. A new way to look at things. Instead of demise, what about rebirth? Could happen.
KK, you know I will always love you! Would beg you on my knees to come back! But if no, I must look forward to something positive coming from this.
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| [spapad] Sunday, April 24, 2011 3:29:02 PM | |
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I don't want to pour salt into wounds, but what would a show be like with a guitar player almost 30 years their junior on stage? I hate to say it, but I think he is going to step the pace up! This might be the most energetic we have seen Priest in years. Don't get me wrong, you know how much I love KK and if you don't just read my profile quote. But the prospect of new blood does pose the opportunity of more action, and a hard driven show?
Just putting the idea out there. A new way to look at things. Instead of demise, what about rebirth? Could happen.
KK, you know I will always love you! Would beg you on my knees to come back! But if no, I must look forward to something positive coming from this.
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| [spapad] Sunday, April 24, 2011 2:18:30 PM | |
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Then give us a new pic of you Freeze, just to prove that minimalization of girth. lol
You do look like you dropped a few lbs. these days. 
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Sunday, April 24, 2011 2:12:55 PM)| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!! GREAT pic, guids!! If you look closely, THAT pic of me is AWFUL ( as are so many of them). That was about 30 lbs ago!! Seriously! This "rock star" crap has been rather demanding on my girth.... HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wish we had a few shots from the the DTE CENTER!!!! BWAAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| [Deep Freeze] Sunday, April 24, 2011 2:12:55 PM | |
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!! GREAT pic, guids!! If you look closely, THAT pic of me is AWFUL ( as are so many of them). That was about 30 lbs ago!! Seriously! This "rock star" crap has been rather demanding on my girth.... HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wish we had a few shots from the the DTE CENTER!!!! BWAAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, April 23, 2011 6:26:33 PM)| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Heh....
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| [Jeanine] Saturday, April 23, 2011 8:43:53 PM | |
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| [Becks] Saturday, April 23, 2011 7:25:46 PM | |
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| [guidogodoy] Saturday, April 23, 2011 6:26:33 PM | |
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| [HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Saturday, April 23, 2011 6:17:39 PM | |
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I sure do remember!!! GREAT times..... great times! Even now, I always enjoy watching the drunks stumble down the hill, looking backwards as if someone pushed them or something! HAAAHAHAHA!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, April 23, 2011 6:09:15 PM)| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | "Man purse"
Had we lawn seats, I would have KICKED him down the hill at PINE KNOB!
Speaking of which, remember when they didn't have the bar dividing the lawn from pavillion? Back then, when you went down on the hill, you went DOWN!
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| [guidogodoy] Saturday, April 23, 2011 6:09:15 PM | |
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"Man purse"
Had we lawn seats, I would have KICKED him down the hill at PINE KNOB!
Speaking of which, remember when they didn't have the bar dividing the lawn from pavillion? Back then, when you went down on the hill, you went DOWN!
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| [HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Saturday, April 23, 2011 4:32:10 PM | |
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It will always be PINE KNOB damn it!!! I only wish you could have seen all the drunk people sliding down the muddy hill! I really hope you know that I was just teasing you - I just couldn't resist it. I never actually saw you with it, just heard the stories. I will miss you being there with us. We had a great time together in Detroit and I will never ever forget it! But, as you said, you will be there in spirit and we will have a toast in your honor as well as a toast to the greatest metal band of all time!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Saturday, April 23, 2011 3:40:19 PM)| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | | HAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!! That's HILARIOUS, Pam!! Yes, I will always remember the "man purse"! The GREAT, GREAT times we had in Detroit (at the DTE CENTER) HAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAA!! It was awesome! I do not hold any "ill will" towards the band. I am far too old for that. I am saddened. But I know that we all will move on and some of you will continue to carry the Metal torch for the guys! I sincerely hope you have a wonderful time together! I am always with you in "spirit"! Even here! Take care, all!!!! |
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| [Deep Freeze] Saturday, April 23, 2011 3:40:19 PM | |
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| HAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!! That's HILARIOUS, Pam!! Yes, I will always remember the "man purse"! The GREAT, GREAT times we had in Detroit (at the DTE CENTER) HAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAA!! It was awesome! I do not hold any "ill will" towards the band. I am far too old for that. I am saddened. But I know that we all will move on and some of you will continue to carry the Metal torch for the guys! I sincerely hope you have a wonderful time together! I am always with you in "spirit"! Even here! Take care, all!!!! |
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| [Vaillant 3.0] Saturday, April 23, 2011 1:34:14 PM | |
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Yawning while playing in front of a large audience?? How unprofessional! 
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS from Saturday, April 23, 2011 1:29:08 PM)| | | HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote: | | Seriously, I will never get that image out of my mind. He rarely looked into the audience, just down at his feet or over to the side, inbetween yawns that is. And I refuse to go see them headline ever again! I know that no one in Priest would ever do that, no matter how bad things were.
| | | Head banger wrote: | | better a new guy than a guy yawning thats for sure
| | | HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote: | | All I can think of is when we went to see Queensryche play a couple years ago and Eddie Jackson the bass player was standing in the back, bored out of his mind and YAWNING MANY times on stage! His heart was not in that performance and you could clearly see it! It dragged the audience down as you can imagine. It makes you feel like you aren't important to them, only their paycheck is important.
I'm not saying KK would behave that way. Far from it I'm sure, because he is a gentleman. But I think that those of us that know him and how he performs would definitely notice that things were "off". He is bowing out now instead of letting his resentment show on stage. That is the professional thing to do if you know that you can't keep it from showing and your heart is no longer in it. It definitely wasn't easy for KK. As I'm sure it isn't easy for Glenn, Rob, Ian or Scott. I'm not sure how the sequence of events happened. Maybe KK was on board for the tour but then Glenn and Rob wanted to do an album and he just didn't want to and that's when he decided to leave? We may never really know. But I wish KK all the best. I will give Faulkner a chance and I will give the new album a chance as well. Change isn't always a bad thing. I will miss KK dearly though and it will be hard to look at the left side of the stage and not see him there.
| | | joedraper wrote: | | Yep, and thing to bare in mind is (like Ripper) The new guy was not hanging around like a shark trying to oust KK out of the band. He just happened to be the guy that the band deemed fit enough to play with them. Faulkner is not the enemy here. There are no enemies. Just crappy circumstances that leaves no winners in this situation.
I for one would find it worse to watch a band where one of the dearest members was looking like an animal trapped in a cage... hang on aren't there some lyrics to that effect somewhere on the circut? (lol) But you know what I'm getting at. Rather let him walk away on his terms than go forward with a heavy heart. This can't be easy for KK to have to do. And I don't think it's something he chose. When you feel you cannot go on... You cannot go on.
| | | HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote: | | Yes Joe, I completely agree. Last time Priest "divorced", I took Priests side and was completely pissed off at Rob until he came back to his metal roots in Halford and then I could let it go. This time around, I'm not really taking sides, I'm just so sad about how all this happened. I will be there supporting Priest, because they have been my ALL TIME FAVORITE band since '82. Seeing someone in KK's place does not "ruin" the memory of Priest for me like it apparently does for others. Yes, it will be different and it will not be "Priest" for me either. But things change and people move on. I want to be there, hopefully with all my Priest friends in the US and say goodbye. I have my memories of KK that I will cherish forever. Now it's time to make some new memories. Just like in a marriage or relationship, you can't force someone to stay when they are so unhappy. I just wish it wasn't the case, but it is so we have to go on the best way that we can.
| | | joedraper wrote: | | And who suffers the most in the 'divorce' or the untimely 'death' Freeze? Why it's us the children (fan for those of you who don't understand my euphamisms lol)
We're the ones who will always hold out hope of mom and dad putting their differences aside and making the family unit whole again. Or we're standing by the cold, grey corpse refusing to let go of the stiff frozen hand and let what's done be done.
Instead of hating and being full of rage, I'm choosing to support the rest of the band who are still here for us, trying to hold us together. It's the least we can do for them. This can't be easy for them, left holding all the broken pieces trying frantically to put things back together again and hope the missing pieces can be hidden by their love for us. And the love for their band and what they have put their lives into for the last 40 odd years.
| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | Its good to see such great discourse regarding the band and all that has occurred. I used a different anaolgy when talking to MM about it earlier. For ME, it's like watching a loved one go through divorce. Of course you support them but it still hurts and it will never be "the same". I will always cherish the memories I have of the band and all the great shows. The thing is, for me, it will not be PRIEST. It will be the remaining members playing as Priest. They will be awesome. It will be epic. They never fail to deliver. All of this is true.
The thing is, I want to remember them as they were way back when I first saw them in the 70's. When I first was drawn to their magic. I want to remember them as they were on that summer's day in Detroit just a couple years ago, when I was only feet from them. Without KK, it will not be the same and, for me, that says it all. I am truly glad that so many of you will go and will say your "good byes", or whatever you wish to call it, in your own ways. That is a good thing. For me, it is over. I will always love the band and I support whatever they do, just as I would any loved one. I still love Judas Priest. That doesn't change.
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| [HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Saturday, April 23, 2011 1:29:08 PM | |
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Seriously, I will never get that image out of my mind. He rarely looked into the audience, just down at his feet or over to the side, inbetween yawns that is. And I refuse to go see them headline ever again! I know that no one in Priest would ever do that, no matter how bad things were.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Head banger from Saturday, April 23, 2011 1:05:18 PM)| | | Head banger wrote: | | better a new guy than a guy yawning thats for sure
| | | HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote: | | All I can think of is when we went to see Queensryche play a couple years ago and Eddie Jackson the bass player was standing in the back, bored out of his mind and YAWNING MANY times on stage! His heart was not in that performance and you could clearly see it! It dragged the audience down as you can imagine. It makes you feel like you aren't important to them, only their paycheck is important.
I'm not saying KK would behave that way. Far from it I'm sure, because he is a gentleman. But I think that those of us that know him and how he performs would definitely notice that things were "off". He is bowing out now instead of letting his resentment show on stage. That is the professional thing to do if you know that you can't keep it from showing and your heart is no longer in it. It definitely wasn't easy for KK. As I'm sure it isn't easy for Glenn, Rob, Ian or Scott. I'm not sure how the sequence of events happened. Maybe KK was on board for the tour but then Glenn and Rob wanted to do an album and he just didn't want to and that's when he decided to leave? We may never really know. But I wish KK all the best. I will give Faulkner a chance and I will give the new album a chance as well. Change isn't always a bad thing. I will miss KK dearly though and it will be hard to look at the left side of the stage and not see him there.
| | | joedraper wrote: | | Yep, and thing to bare in mind is (like Ripper) The new guy was not hanging around like a shark trying to oust KK out of the band. He just happened to be the guy that the band deemed fit enough to play with them. Faulkner is not the enemy here. There are no enemies. Just crappy circumstances that leaves no winners in this situation.
I for one would find it worse to watch a band where one of the dearest members was looking like an animal trapped in a cage... hang on aren't there some lyrics to that effect somewhere on the circut? (lol) But you know what I'm getting at. Rather let him walk away on his terms than go forward with a heavy heart. This can't be easy for KK to have to do. And I don't think it's something he chose. When you feel you cannot go on... You cannot go on.
| | | HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote: | | Yes Joe, I completely agree. Last time Priest "divorced", I took Priests side and was completely pissed off at Rob until he came back to his metal roots in Halford and then I could let it go. This time around, I'm not really taking sides, I'm just so sad about how all this happened. I will be there supporting Priest, because they have been my ALL TIME FAVORITE band since '82. Seeing someone in KK's place does not "ruin" the memory of Priest for me like it apparently does for others. Yes, it will be different and it will not be "Priest" for me either. But things change and people move on. I want to be there, hopefully with all my Priest friends in the US and say goodbye. I have my memories of KK that I will cherish forever. Now it's time to make some new memories. Just like in a marriage or relationship, you can't force someone to stay when they are so unhappy. I just wish it wasn't the case, but it is so we have to go on the best way that we can.
| | | joedraper wrote: | | And who suffers the most in the 'divorce' or the untimely 'death' Freeze? Why it's us the children (fan for those of you who don't understand my euphamisms lol)
We're the ones who will always hold out hope of mom and dad putting their differences aside and making the family unit whole again. Or we're standing by the cold, grey corpse refusing to let go of the stiff frozen hand and let what's done be done.
Instead of hating and being full of rage, I'm choosing to support the rest of the band who are still here for us, trying to hold us together. It's the least we can do for them. This can't be easy for them, left holding all the broken pieces trying frantically to put things back together again and hope the missing pieces can be hidden by their love for us. And the love for their band and what they have put their lives into for the last 40 odd years.
| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | Its good to see such great discourse regarding the band and all that has occurred. I used a different anaolgy when talking to MM about it earlier. For ME, it's like watching a loved one go through divorce. Of course you support them but it still hurts and it will never be "the same". I will always cherish the memories I have of the band and all the great shows. The thing is, for me, it will not be PRIEST. It will be the remaining members playing as Priest. They will be awesome. It will be epic. They never fail to deliver. All of this is true.
The thing is, I want to remember them as they were way back when I first saw them in the 70's. When I first was drawn to their magic. I want to remember them as they were on that summer's day in Detroit just a couple years ago, when I was only feet from them. Without KK, it will not be the same and, for me, that says it all. I am truly glad that so many of you will go and will say your "good byes", or whatever you wish to call it, in your own ways. That is a good thing. For me, it is over. I will always love the band and I support whatever they do, just as I would any loved one. I still love Judas Priest. That doesn't change.
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| [Head banger] Saturday, April 23, 2011 1:05:18 PM | |
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better a new guy than a guy yawning thats for sure
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS from Saturday, April 23, 2011 12:54:59 PM)| | | HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote: | | All I can think of is when we went to see Queensryche play a couple years ago and Eddie Jackson the bass player was standing in the back, bored out of his mind and YAWNING MANY times on stage! His heart was not in that performance and you could clearly see it! It dragged the audience down as you can imagine. It makes you feel like you aren't important to them, only their paycheck is important.
I'm not saying KK would behave that way. Far from it I'm sure, because he is a gentleman. But I think that those of us that know him and how he performs would definitely notice that things were "off". He is bowing out now instead of letting his resentment show on stage. That is the professional thing to do if you know that you can't keep it from showing and your heart is no longer in it. It definitely wasn't easy for KK. As I'm sure it isn't easy for Glenn, Rob, Ian or Scott. I'm not sure how the sequence of events happened. Maybe KK was on board for the tour but then Glenn and Rob wanted to do an album and he just didn't want to and that's when he decided to leave? We may never really know. But I wish KK all the best. I will give Faulkner a chance and I will give the new album a chance as well. Change isn't always a bad thing. I will miss KK dearly though and it will be hard to look at the left side of the stage and not see him there.
| | | joedraper wrote: | | Yep, and thing to bare in mind is (like Ripper) The new guy was not hanging around like a shark trying to oust KK out of the band. He just happened to be the guy that the band deemed fit enough to play with them. Faulkner is not the enemy here. There are no enemies. Just crappy circumstances that leaves no winners in this situation.
I for one would find it worse to watch a band where one of the dearest members was looking like an animal trapped in a cage... hang on aren't there some lyrics to that effect somewhere on the circut? (lol) But you know what I'm getting at. Rather let him walk away on his terms than go forward with a heavy heart. This can't be easy for KK to have to do. And I don't think it's something he chose. When you feel you cannot go on... You cannot go on.
| | | HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote: | | Yes Joe, I completely agree. Last time Priest "divorced", I took Priests side and was completely pissed off at Rob until he came back to his metal roots in Halford and then I could let it go. This time around, I'm not really taking sides, I'm just so sad about how all this happened. I will be there supporting Priest, because they have been my ALL TIME FAVORITE band since '82. Seeing someone in KK's place does not "ruin" the memory of Priest for me like it apparently does for others. Yes, it will be different and it will not be "Priest" for me either. But things change and people move on. I want to be there, hopefully with all my Priest friends in the US and say goodbye. I have my memories of KK that I will cherish forever. Now it's time to make some new memories. Just like in a marriage or relationship, you can't force someone to stay when they are so unhappy. I just wish it wasn't the case, but it is so we have to go on the best way that we can.
| | | joedraper wrote: | | And who suffers the most in the 'divorce' or the untimely 'death' Freeze? Why it's us the children (fan for those of you who don't understand my euphamisms lol)
We're the ones who will always hold out hope of mom and dad putting their differences aside and making the family unit whole again. Or we're standing by the cold, grey corpse refusing to let go of the stiff frozen hand and let what's done be done.
Instead of hating and being full of rage, I'm choosing to support the rest of the band who are still here for us, trying to hold us together. It's the least we can do for them. This can't be easy for them, left holding all the broken pieces trying frantically to put things back together again and hope the missing pieces can be hidden by their love for us. And the love for their band and what they have put their lives into for the last 40 odd years.
| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | Its good to see such great discourse regarding the band and all that has occurred. I used a different anaolgy when talking to MM about it earlier. For ME, it's like watching a loved one go through divorce. Of course you support them but it still hurts and it will never be "the same". I will always cherish the memories I have of the band and all the great shows. The thing is, for me, it will not be PRIEST. It will be the remaining members playing as Priest. They will be awesome. It will be epic. They never fail to deliver. All of this is true.
The thing is, I want to remember them as they were way back when I first saw them in the 70's. When I first was drawn to their magic. I want to remember them as they were on that summer's day in Detroit just a couple years ago, when I was only feet from them. Without KK, it will not be the same and, for me, that says it all. I am truly glad that so many of you will go and will say your "good byes", or whatever you wish to call it, in your own ways. That is a good thing. For me, it is over. I will always love the band and I support whatever they do, just as I would any loved one. I still love Judas Priest. That doesn't change.
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| [joedraper] Saturday, April 23, 2011 1:02:35 PM | |
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As hard as it will be to not see him there, you are so right. It would be worse to see him there knowing that he did not want to be there. If there is bad vibes within the band, it will flow over to their performance. I believe in his own way, he is thinking of us by walking away.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS from Saturday, April 23, 2011 12:54:59 PM)| | | HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote: | | All I can think of is when we went to see Queensryche play a couple years ago and Eddie Jackson the bass player was standing in the back, bored out of his mind and YAWNING MANY times on stage! His heart was not in that performance and you could clearly see it! It dragged the audience down as you can imagine. It makes you feel like you aren't important to them, only their paycheck is important.
I'm not saying KK would behave that way. Far from it I'm sure, because he is a gentleman. But I think that those of us that know him and how he performs would definitely notice that things were "off". He is bowing out now instead of letting his resentment show on stage. That is the professional thing to do if you know that you can't keep it from showing and your heart is no longer in it. It definitely wasn't easy for KK. As I'm sure it isn't easy for Glenn, Rob, Ian or Scott. I'm not sure how the sequence of events happened. Maybe KK was on board for the tour but then Glenn and Rob wanted to do an album and he just didn't want to and that's when he decided to leave? We may never really know. But I wish KK all the best. I will give Faulkner a chance and I will give the new album a chance as well. Change isn't always a bad thing. I will miss KK dearly though and it will be hard to look at the left side of the stage and not see him there.
| | | joedraper wrote: | | Yep, and thing to bare in mind is (like Ripper) The new guy was not hanging around like a shark trying to oust KK out of the band. He just happened to be the guy that the band deemed fit enough to play with them. Faulkner is not the enemy here. There are no enemies. Just crappy circumstances that leaves no winners in this situation.
I for one would find it worse to watch a band where one of the dearest members was looking like an animal trapped in a cage... hang on aren't there some lyrics to that effect somewhere on the circut? (lol) But you know what I'm getting at. Rather let him walk away on his terms than go forward with a heavy heart. This can't be easy for KK to have to do. And I don't think it's something he chose. When you feel you cannot go on... You cannot go on.
| | | HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote: | | Yes Joe, I completely agree. Last time Priest "divorced", I took Priests side and was completely pissed off at Rob until he came back to his metal roots in Halford and then I could let it go. This time around, I'm not really taking sides, I'm just so sad about how all this happened. I will be there supporting Priest, because they have been my ALL TIME FAVORITE band since '82. Seeing someone in KK's place does not "ruin" the memory of Priest for me like it apparently does for others. Yes, it will be different and it will not be "Priest" for me either. But things change and people move on. I want to be there, hopefully with all my Priest friends in the US and say goodbye. I have my memories of KK that I will cherish forever. Now it's time to make some new memories. Just like in a marriage or relationship, you can't force someone to stay when they are so unhappy. I just wish it wasn't the case, but it is so we have to go on the best way that we can.
| | | joedraper wrote: | | And who suffers the most in the 'divorce' or the untimely 'death' Freeze? Why it's us the children (fan for those of you who don't understand my euphamisms lol)
We're the ones who will always hold out hope of mom and dad putting their differences aside and making the family unit whole again. Or we're standing by the cold, grey corpse refusing to let go of the stiff frozen hand and let what's done be done.
Instead of hating and being full of rage, I'm choosing to support the rest of the band who are still here for us, trying to hold us together. It's the least we can do for them. This can't be easy for them, left holding all the broken pieces trying frantically to put things back together again and hope the missing pieces can be hidden by their love for us. And the love for their band and what they have put their lives into for the last 40 odd years.
| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | Its good to see such great discourse regarding the band and all that has occurred. I used a different anaolgy when talking to MM about it earlier. For ME, it's like watching a loved one go through divorce. Of course you support them but it still hurts and it will never be "the same". I will always cherish the memories I have of the band and all the great shows. The thing is, for me, it will not be PRIEST. It will be the remaining members playing as Priest. They will be awesome. It will be epic. They never fail to deliver. All of this is true.
The thing is, I want to remember them as they were way back when I first saw them in the 70's. When I first was drawn to their magic. I want to remember them as they were on that summer's day in Detroit just a couple years ago, when I was only feet from them. Without KK, it will not be the same and, for me, that says it all. I am truly glad that so many of you will go and will say your "good byes", or whatever you wish to call it, in your own ways. That is a good thing. For me, it is over. I will always love the band and I support whatever they do, just as I would any loved one. I still love Judas Priest. That doesn't change.
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| [HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Saturday, April 23, 2011 12:54:59 PM | |
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All I can think of is when we went to see Queensryche play a couple years ago and Eddie Jackson the bass player was standing in the back, bored out of his mind and YAWNING MANY times on stage! His heart was not in that performance and you could clearly see it! It dragged the audience down as you can imagine. It makes you feel like you aren't important to them, only their paycheck is important.
I'm not saying KK would behave that way. Far from it I'm sure, because he is a gentleman. But I think that those of us that know him and how he performs would definitely notice that things were "off". He is bowing out now instead of letting his resentment show on stage. That is the professional thing to do if you know that you can't keep it from showing and your heart is no longer in it. It definitely wasn't easy for KK. As I'm sure it isn't easy for Glenn, Rob, Ian or Scott. I'm not sure how the sequence of events happened. Maybe KK was on board for the tour but then Glenn and Rob wanted to do an album and he just didn't want to and that's when he decided to leave? We may never really know. But I wish KK all the best. I will give Faulkner a chance and I will give the new album a chance as well. Change isn't always a bad thing. I will miss KK dearly though and it will be hard to look at the left side of the stage and not see him there.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by joedraper from Saturday, April 23, 2011 12:03:03 PM)| | | joedraper wrote: | | Yep, and thing to bare in mind is (like Ripper) The new guy was not hanging around like a shark trying to oust KK out of the band. He just happened to be the guy that the band deemed fit enough to play with them. Faulkner is not the enemy here. There are no enemies. Just crappy circumstances that leaves no winners in this situation.
I for one would find it worse to watch a band where one of the dearest members was looking like an animal trapped in a cage... hang on aren't there some lyrics to that effect somewhere on the circut? (lol) But you know what I'm getting at. Rather let him walk away on his terms than go forward with a heavy heart. This can't be easy for KK to have to do. And I don't think it's something he chose. When you feel you cannot go on... You cannot go on.
| | | HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote: | | Yes Joe, I completely agree. Last time Priest "divorced", I took Priests side and was completely pissed off at Rob until he came back to his metal roots in Halford and then I could let it go. This time around, I'm not really taking sides, I'm just so sad about how all this happened. I will be there supporting Priest, because they have been my ALL TIME FAVORITE band since '82. Seeing someone in KK's place does not "ruin" the memory of Priest for me like it apparently does for others. Yes, it will be different and it will not be "Priest" for me either. But things change and people move on. I want to be there, hopefully with all my Priest friends in the US and say goodbye. I have my memories of KK that I will cherish forever. Now it's time to make some new memories. Just like in a marriage or relationship, you can't force someone to stay when they are so unhappy. I just wish it wasn't the case, but it is so we have to go on the best way that we can.
| | | joedraper wrote: | | And who suffers the most in the 'divorce' or the untimely 'death' Freeze? Why it's us the children (fan for those of you who don't understand my euphamisms lol)
We're the ones who will always hold out hope of mom and dad putting their differences aside and making the family unit whole again. Or we're standing by the cold, grey corpse refusing to let go of the stiff frozen hand and let what's done be done.
Instead of hating and being full of rage, I'm choosing to support the rest of the band who are still here for us, trying to hold us together. It's the least we can do for them. This can't be easy for them, left holding all the broken pieces trying frantically to put things back together again and hope the missing pieces can be hidden by their love for us. And the love for their band and what they have put their lives into for the last 40 odd years.
| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | Its good to see such great discourse regarding the band and all that has occurred. I used a different anaolgy when talking to MM about it earlier. For ME, it's like watching a loved one go through divorce. Of course you support them but it still hurts and it will never be "the same". I will always cherish the memories I have of the band and all the great shows. The thing is, for me, it will not be PRIEST. It will be the remaining members playing as Priest. They will be awesome. It will be epic. They never fail to deliver. All of this is true.
The thing is, I want to remember them as they were way back when I first saw them in the 70's. When I first was drawn to their magic. I want to remember them as they were on that summer's day in Detroit just a couple years ago, when I was only feet from them. Without KK, it will not be the same and, for me, that says it all. I am truly glad that so many of you will go and will say your "good byes", or whatever you wish to call it, in your own ways. That is a good thing. For me, it is over. I will always love the band and I support whatever they do, just as I would any loved one. I still love Judas Priest. That doesn't change.
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| [joedraper] Saturday, April 23, 2011 12:03:03 PM | |
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Yep, and thing to bare in mind is (like Ripper) The new guy was not hanging around like a shark trying to oust KK out of the band. He just happened to be the guy that the band deemed fit enough to play with them. Faulkner is not the enemy here. There are no enemies. Just crappy circumstances that leaves no winners in this situation.
I for one would find it worse to watch a band where one of the dearest members was looking like an animal trapped in a cage... hang on aren't there some lyrics to that effect somewhere on the circut? (lol) But you know what I'm getting at. Rather let him walk away on his terms than go forward with a heavy heart. This can't be easy for KK to have to do. And I don't think it's something he chose. When you feel you cannot go on... You cannot go on.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS from Saturday, April 23, 2011 11:46:47 AM)| | | HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote: | | Yes Joe, I completely agree. Last time Priest "divorced", I took Priests side and was completely pissed off at Rob until he came back to his metal roots in Halford and then I could let it go. This time around, I'm not really taking sides, I'm just so sad about how all this happened. I will be there supporting Priest, because they have been my ALL TIME FAVORITE band since '82. Seeing someone in KK's place does not "ruin" the memory of Priest for me like it apparently does for others. Yes, it will be different and it will not be "Priest" for me either. But things change and people move on. I want to be there, hopefully with all my Priest friends in the US and say goodbye. I have my memories of KK that I will cherish forever. Now it's time to make some new memories. Just like in a marriage or relationship, you can't force someone to stay when they are so unhappy. I just wish it wasn't the case, but it is so we have to go on the best way that we can.
| | | joedraper wrote: | | And who suffers the most in the 'divorce' or the untimely 'death' Freeze? Why it's us the children (fan for those of you who don't understand my euphamisms lol)
We're the ones who will always hold out hope of mom and dad putting their differences aside and making the family unit whole again. Or we're standing by the cold, grey corpse refusing to let go of the stiff frozen hand and let what's done be done.
Instead of hating and being full of rage, I'm choosing to support the rest of the band who are still here for us, trying to hold us together. It's the least we can do for them. This can't be easy for them, left holding all the broken pieces trying frantically to put things back together again and hope the missing pieces can be hidden by their love for us. And the love for their band and what they have put their lives into for the last 40 odd years.
| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | Its good to see such great discourse regarding the band and all that has occurred. I used a different anaolgy when talking to MM about it earlier. For ME, it's like watching a loved one go through divorce. Of course you support them but it still hurts and it will never be "the same". I will always cherish the memories I have of the band and all the great shows. The thing is, for me, it will not be PRIEST. It will be the remaining members playing as Priest. They will be awesome. It will be epic. They never fail to deliver. All of this is true.
The thing is, I want to remember them as they were way back when I first saw them in the 70's. When I first was drawn to their magic. I want to remember them as they were on that summer's day in Detroit just a couple years ago, when I was only feet from them. Without KK, it will not be the same and, for me, that says it all. I am truly glad that so many of you will go and will say your "good byes", or whatever you wish to call it, in your own ways. That is a good thing. For me, it is over. I will always love the band and I support whatever they do, just as I would any loved one. I still love Judas Priest. That doesn't change.
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| [HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Saturday, April 23, 2011 11:55:07 AM | |
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I want as many of us as we can get together at one show, standing shoulder to shoulder, banging our heads and screaming until we have no voices left! I want to send them off with a BANG! I want them to know how loved they are and how much they have meant to us. At the end, I have no doubt most of us, if not all of us, will be crying. Too bad Freeze won't be there, he could bring his "man bag" and cram a couple boxes of tissue in it Sorry Freeze, I just HAD to. I do really wish you would change your mind and be there with us. No, it won't be the same, but that shouldn't make you forget all the fantastic memories you have of Priest. I hope you change your mind, we will save you a spot. But then again, maybe you will want to avoid what is most likely going to be a cryfest at the end.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Friday, April 22, 2011 11:55:03 PM)| | | spapad wrote: | | I hope to be right there with you and Bev, Ron, and Guids when we all a say a goodbye. I will be crying! lol I know I will.
| | | HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote: | | I have supported Priest always since I became a fan in '82. They are my all time favorite band and nothing will ever change that. Even if the new album sucks (and I know it won't!), it still won't change how I feel about Priest. I will be there, hopefully standing right next to you at a show, saying goodbye to my band. I KNOW I'll be crying at the final show that I go to, I'll have to bring tissues! I just wish that KK could be there when that last curtain falls, he deserves to be there after everything that he has given to Priest. I'm just sad that it had to end this way.
| | | spapad wrote: | | I now realize that we fans of Priest have always been a selfish lot. We have good reason to be.
Why mess with lightning in a bottle?
But we must go on. KK wants us to support the band and I'm sure they have found someone more than up to the job and works simpatico with Glenn. We all fell away when Ripper replaced Rob, because the lyrics and voice was not what we wanted, (we are a brutal judging bunch), and it was not a good separation back then. Not that it ever is for us fans.
I'll be out there supporting them. They are still MY band, I will miss KK tremendously, and might even cry, but I'll be there showing my love of my ALL TIME FAVORITE BAND.
I love my Metal Gods. It's hard enough to see a split so late, but I want to see them one last time. With tears in my eyes when the show is over.
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| [HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Saturday, April 23, 2011 11:46:47 AM | |
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Yes Joe, I completely agree. Last time Priest "divorced", I took Priests side and was completely pissed off at Rob until he came back to his metal roots in Halford and then I could let it go. This time around, I'm not really taking sides, I'm just so sad about how all this happened. I will be there supporting Priest, because they have been my ALL TIME FAVORITE band since '82. Seeing someone in KK's place does not "ruin" the memory of Priest for me like it apparently does for others. Yes, it will be different and it will not be "Priest" for me either. But things change and people move on. I want to be there, hopefully with all my Priest friends in the US and say goodbye. I have my memories of KK that I will cherish forever. Now it's time to make some new memories. Just like in a marriage or relationship, you can't force someone to stay when they are so unhappy. I just wish it wasn't the case, but it is so we have to go on the best way that we can.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by joedraper from Saturday, April 23, 2011 10:39:17 AM)| | | joedraper wrote: | | And who suffers the most in the 'divorce' or the untimely 'death' Freeze? Why it's us the children (fan for those of you who don't understand my euphamisms lol)
We're the ones who will always hold out hope of mom and dad putting their differences aside and making the family unit whole again. Or we're standing by the cold, grey corpse refusing to let go of the stiff frozen hand and let what's done be done.
Instead of hating and being full of rage, I'm choosing to support the rest of the band who are still here for us, trying to hold us together. It's the least we can do for them. This can't be easy for them, left holding all the broken pieces trying frantically to put things back together again and hope the missing pieces can be hidden by their love for us. And the love for their band and what they have put their lives into for the last 40 odd years.
| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | Its good to see such great discourse regarding the band and all that has occurred. I used a different anaolgy when talking to MM about it earlier. For ME, it's like watching a loved one go through divorce. Of course you support them but it still hurts and it will never be "the same". I will always cherish the memories I have of the band and all the great shows. The thing is, for me, it will not be PRIEST. It will be the remaining members playing as Priest. They will be awesome. It will be epic. They never fail to deliver. All of this is true.
The thing is, I want to remember them as they were way back when I first saw them in the 70's. When I first was drawn to their magic. I want to remember them as they were on that summer's day in Detroit just a couple years ago, when I was only feet from them. Without KK, it will not be the same and, for me, that says it all. I am truly glad that so many of you will go and will say your "good byes", or whatever you wish to call it, in your own ways. That is a good thing. For me, it is over. I will always love the band and I support whatever they do, just as I would any loved one. I still love Judas Priest. That doesn't change.
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