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Cheapening? Well, Im not such a great expert in English to judge that, but I will stay with my opinion - language for me is merely a mean for communication, nothing less, nothing more. And therefore, cheapening (or expesnifying, or whatever the fuck would the opposite of cheapening be) is imo completely irrelevant. The only thing that is relevant is that the person youre talking to can understand you, and vice versa.
Oh, and you will have to remind me which outburst was that. Izs kinda hard for me to keep track of them all. [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Friday, November 28, 2008 7:52:12 AM) |  | Deep Freeze wrote: | | You are in no "trouble", my dear. Neither was strat when he jabbed me with his "outburst". All in good fun, I assure you! I think an intellectual discussion every now and again is a good idea. I am pleased to see there is interest!
The thing is, profanity is a part of our language. For better or worse. I have always considered it a form of cheapening the language which we speak, however, I am one of the few. The majority of people seem to believe it is a perfectly acceptable form of communication. Certainly it is to be expected on a "rock band's website", no? I am not the least bit surprised that it is quite popular here among our group. Does not mean that we are any less human. Nor does it mean one is less important or whatever. Nonesense.
I have used foul language. I do so even to this very day. I do NOT use it in front of my mother, grandmother, granchildren or strangers! To me, this is just not done. I also eschew profanity in a public forum, but that is simply because you just never know who may be reading what you write and I would be rather ashamed for certain people to read something like that from me. That is just how I feel. This is a public forum. I do not walk downtown, swearing in front of strangers and I will not do it in a public place. When I am with intimate friends, I might let one or two foul words slip, but that is rare.
I am not attempting to define righteousness through speech. What is "acceptable" to some may not be so to others and so, while in a public forum, I choose to use language that I believe is acceptable to all at all times. |  | WhiskeyWoman wrote: | | Hey there Strat... oh, he knows I'm a smart-ass! 
Gosh, d'ya think I was hard on Freeze? No, no, no!
Well, shit. It certainly wasn't meant that way!
I really do wonder where swearing to loosen people up, falls into! I'm hoping Freeze understands it to be intellectual banter, is all...
Freeze... I have my pencil out, ready to take notes... eagerly waiting for our next class. Albeit with some trepidation now! Am I in trouble?
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[Deep Freeze] Friday, November 28, 2008 8:10:49 AM | |
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Umm..'Child, I do believe I mentioned "intimate" in my previous post. And thank you for what will surely be a most treasured mental image for some time to come....HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HB, you're killing me. [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by devils_child from Friday, November 28, 2008 8:03:33 AM) |  | devils_child wrote: | | **Raised Hand**....... Hey Freeze if I swore in a fit of passion would you have any problems with that??...... hehehehe  |  | Head banger wrote: | | all those who have seen DF drop a F bomb, raise your hand!! |  | Deep Freeze wrote: | | You are in no "trouble", my dear. Neither was strat when he jabbed me with his "outburst". All in good fun, I assure you! I think an intellectual discussion every now and again is a good idea. I am pleased to see there is interest!
The thing is, profanity is a part of our language. For better or worse. I have always considered it a form of cheapening the language which we speak, however, I am one of the few. The majority of people seem to believe it is a perfectly acceptable form of communication. Certainly it is to be expected on a "rock band's website", no? I am not the least bit surprised that it is quite popular here among our group. Does not mean that we are any less human. Nor does it mean one is less important or whatever. Nonesense.
I have used foul language. I do so even to this very day. I do NOT use it in front of my mother, grandmother, granchildren or strangers! To me, this is just not done. I also eschew profanity in a public forum, but that is simply because you just never know who may be reading what you write and I would be rather ashamed for certain people to read something like that from me. That is just how I feel. This is a public forum. I do not walk downtown, swearing in front of strangers and I will not do it in a public place. When I am with intimate friends, I might let one or two foul words slip, but that is rare.
I am not attempting to define righteousness through speech. What is "acceptable" to some may not be so to others and so, while in a public forum, I choose to use language that I believe is acceptable to all at all times. |  | WhiskeyWoman wrote: | | Hey there Strat... oh, he knows I'm a smart-ass! 
Gosh, d'ya think I was hard on Freeze? No, no, no!
Well, shit. It certainly wasn't meant that way!
I really do wonder where swearing to loosen people up, falls into! I'm hoping Freeze understands it to be intellectual banter, is all...
Freeze... I have my pencil out, ready to take notes... eagerly waiting for our next class. Albeit with some trepidation now! Am I in trouble?
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[devils_child] Friday, November 28, 2008 8:03:33 AM | |
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**Raised Hand**....... Hey Freeze if I swore in a fit of passion would you have any problems with that??...... hehehehe  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Head banger from Friday, November 28, 2008 7:57:10 AM) |  | Head banger wrote: | | all those who have seen DF drop a F bomb, raise your hand!! |  | Deep Freeze wrote: | | You are in no "trouble", my dear. Neither was strat when he jabbed me with his "outburst". All in good fun, I assure you! I think an intellectual discussion every now and again is a good idea. I am pleased to see there is interest!
The thing is, profanity is a part of our language. For better or worse. I have always considered it a form of cheapening the language which we speak, however, I am one of the few. The majority of people seem to believe it is a perfectly acceptable form of communication. Certainly it is to be expected on a "rock band's website", no? I am not the least bit surprised that it is quite popular here among our group. Does not mean that we are any less human. Nor does it mean one is less important or whatever. Nonesense.
I have used foul language. I do so even to this very day. I do NOT use it in front of my mother, grandmother, granchildren or strangers! To me, this is just not done. I also eschew profanity in a public forum, but that is simply because you just never know who may be reading what you write and I would be rather ashamed for certain people to read something like that from me. That is just how I feel. This is a public forum. I do not walk downtown, swearing in front of strangers and I will not do it in a public place. When I am with intimate friends, I might let one or two foul words slip, but that is rare.
I am not attempting to define righteousness through speech. What is "acceptable" to some may not be so to others and so, while in a public forum, I choose to use language that I believe is acceptable to all at all times. |  | WhiskeyWoman wrote: | | Hey there Strat... oh, he knows I'm a smart-ass! 
Gosh, d'ya think I was hard on Freeze? No, no, no!
Well, shit. It certainly wasn't meant that way!
I really do wonder where swearing to loosen people up, falls into! I'm hoping Freeze understands it to be intellectual banter, is all...
Freeze... I have my pencil out, ready to take notes... eagerly waiting for our next class. Albeit with some trepidation now! Am I in trouble?
(Well, that didn't take long.) |
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[Head banger] Friday, November 28, 2008 7:57:10 AM | |
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all those who have seen DF drop a F bomb, raise your hand!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Friday, November 28, 2008 7:52:12 AM) |  | Deep Freeze wrote: | | You are in no "trouble", my dear. Neither was strat when he jabbed me with his "outburst". All in good fun, I assure you! I think an intellectual discussion every now and again is a good idea. I am pleased to see there is interest!
The thing is, profanity is a part of our language. For better or worse. I have always considered it a form of cheapening the language which we speak, however, I am one of the few. The majority of people seem to believe it is a perfectly acceptable form of communication. Certainly it is to be expected on a "rock band's website", no? I am not the least bit surprised that it is quite popular here among our group. Does not mean that we are any less human. Nor does it mean one is less important or whatever. Nonesense.
I have used foul language. I do so even to this very day. I do NOT use it in front of my mother, grandmother, granchildren or strangers! To me, this is just not done. I also eschew profanity in a public forum, but that is simply because you just never know who may be reading what you write and I would be rather ashamed for certain people to read something like that from me. That is just how I feel. This is a public forum. I do not walk downtown, swearing in front of strangers and I will not do it in a public place. When I am with intimate friends, I might let one or two foul words slip, but that is rare.
I am not attempting to define righteousness through speech. What is "acceptable" to some may not be so to others and so, while in a public forum, I choose to use language that I believe is acceptable to all at all times. |  | WhiskeyWoman wrote: | | Hey there Strat... oh, he knows I'm a smart-ass! 
Gosh, d'ya think I was hard on Freeze? No, no, no!
Well, shit. It certainly wasn't meant that way!
I really do wonder where swearing to loosen people up, falls into! I'm hoping Freeze understands it to be intellectual banter, is all...
Freeze... I have my pencil out, ready to take notes... eagerly waiting for our next class. Albeit with some trepidation now! Am I in trouble?
(Well, that didn't take long.) |
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[Deep Freeze] Friday, November 28, 2008 7:52:12 AM | |
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You are in no "trouble", my dear. Neither was strat when he jabbed me with his "outburst". All in good fun, I assure you! I think an intellectual discussion every now and again is a good idea. I am pleased to see there is interest!
The thing is, profanity is a part of our language. For better or worse. I have always considered it a form of cheapening the language which we speak, however, I am one of the few. The majority of people seem to believe it is a perfectly acceptable form of communication. Certainly it is to be expected on a "rock band's website", no? I am not the least bit surprised that it is quite popular here among our group. Does not mean that we are any less human. Nor does it mean one is less important or whatever. Nonesense.
I have used foul language. I do so even to this very day. I do NOT use it in front of my mother, grandmother, granchildren or strangers! To me, this is just not done. I also eschew profanity in a public forum, but that is simply because you just never know who may be reading what you write and I would be rather ashamed for certain people to read something like that from me. That is just how I feel. This is a public forum. I do not walk downtown, swearing in front of strangers and I will not do it in a public place. When I am with intimate friends, I might let one or two foul words slip, but that is rare.
I am not attempting to define righteousness through speech. What is "acceptable" to some may not be so to others and so, while in a public forum, I choose to use language that I believe is acceptable to all at all times. [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by WhiskeyWoman from Friday, November 28, 2008 1:42:44 AM) |  | WhiskeyWoman wrote: | | Hey there Strat... oh, he knows I'm a smart-ass! 
Gosh, d'ya think I was hard on Freeze? No, no, no!
Well, shit. It certainly wasn't meant that way!
I really do wonder where swearing to loosen people up, falls into! I'm hoping Freeze understands it to be intellectual banter, is all...
Freeze... I have my pencil out, ready to take notes... eagerly waiting for our next class. Albeit with some trepidation now! Am I in trouble?
(Well, that didn't take long.) |
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[WhiskeyWoman] Friday, November 28, 2008 1:42:44 AM | |
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Hey there Strat... oh, he knows I'm a smart-ass! 
Gosh, d'ya think I was hard on Freeze? No, no, no!
Well, shit. It certainly wasn't meant that way!
I really do wonder where swearing to loosen people up, falls into! I'm hoping Freeze understands it to be intellectual banter, is all...
Freeze... I have my pencil out, ready to take notes... eagerly waiting for our next class. Albeit with some trepidation now! Am I in trouble?
(Well, that didn't take long.) |
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[_strat_] Friday, November 28, 2008 1:21:13 AM | |
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Come on now, dont be so hard on him. According to Metal Meltdown, Freeze called me a smart ASS at least once. Looks like hes softening up!
But in any case, I agree with you. Swearing is a part of every language, and its really not something to be so upset over, as some people are. [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by WhiskeyWoman from Friday, November 28, 2008 12:49:26 AM) |  | WhiskeyWoman wrote: | | (LOL, stratlover!)
Holy crap, is there a test on this shit!?
That's so good Freeze... I love Insomniac Theatre!
Then, I seriously have to question the orgins of 'profanity' in the first place. "Socially acceptable'" is subjective to a degree, and it is ever-changing. Thank-goodness. Some people would think socially acceptable does not include rock 'n roll, never mind metal.
Are these the same people/hypoocrites who censor swearing out of movies where hundreds of people get killed or maimed from beginning to end? All of that violence is okay, but a fucking word isn't?
Lol...
I like to think of those naughty little words as simply part of our language -- just nouns, adjectives and verbs. They come in quite handy.
Where does swearing to set people at ease, fall into? To, you know, let people know they don't have to be so stuffy and can let their guard down? Seriously, it seems to work -- so maybe it is 'cathartic' for them to respond in context?
I just fuckin' love this intellectual shit. Thanks Freeze! (What's next...?)
 |  | Deep Freeze wrote: | | Good Morning, boys and girls. Welcome to Insomniac Theater! Today we will be discussing profanity. That's right! Profanity. Naughty words. Please take out a pencil and paper, take copious notes and be prepared to particpate in the after-class review. Ready? Let's begin:
The origin of the word profane actually stems from a Latin adjective which basically meant "things that do not belong to the church". It was utilized mostly to describe things outside of the church or things such as buildings that were not churches. As a result, the word has come to be used to describe things which are not socially acceptable or vulgar. What was once considered blasphemous has morphed into a more general definition regarding obscene or irreverent language.
Profanity, or swearing, has been categorized in five types:
Dysphemistic: which forces the listener to think in a negative manner
Abusive: used to intimidate or insult
Cathartic: meant to describe a personal, negative emotion
Emphatic: used to emphasize a point
Idiomatic: cursing without referring to a matter
Some profanity has original meaning while others carry implied meaning. The actual degree of profanity is really determined by its effect on the listener. Depending on the group or individual being addressed, the actual meaning or its implication will be processed and the listener will decide if it is appropriate for polite conversation or the particular moment in which the word in employed. Many people use profanity as a way of seeking acceptance among peers. Others seek to use it for "shock value", or the aforementioned intimidation. Most often, the religious connotations are most recognized and, therefore, most understood.
Over time, the effectiveness of certain words changes. Racial slurs and epithets tend to be the most offensive in modern speech, as do words that refer to gender, creed and sexual orientation. Words that disparage a particular group are often considered highly offensive. Words describing certain parts of the body appear to remain the most popular, again as a result of the religious connection and the "blasphemous" nature of such words.
In closing, polite and decent society have yet to agree on just which words, if any, are completely profane in all circumstances. It is generally understood that language, as with behavior, is subject to interpretation but should most often be tempered by the group that make up the "listening body". One could argue that the user should consider his audience and choose appropriate speech, while still others will say that profanity cheapens the message and is disparaging to the user. In any case, there is clearly a line which must be drawn when conducting an open forum and the rules of decency should always prevail.
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[WhiskeyWoman] Friday, November 28, 2008 12:49:26 AM | |
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(LOL, stratlover!)
Holy crap, is there a test on this shit!?
That's so good Freeze... I love Insomniac Theatre!
Then, I seriously have to question the orgins of 'profanity' in the first place. "Socially acceptable'" is subjective to a degree, and it is ever-changing. Thank-goodness. Some people would think socially acceptable does not include rock 'n roll, never mind metal.
Are these the same people/hypoocrites who censor swearing out of movies where hundreds of people get killed or maimed from beginning to end? All of that violence is okay, but a fucking word isn't?
Lol...
I like to think of those naughty little words as simply part of our language -- just nouns, adjectives and verbs. They come in quite handy.
Where does swearing to set people at ease, fall into? To, you know, let people know they don't have to be so stuffy and can let their guard down? Seriously, it seems to work -- so maybe it is 'cathartic' for them to respond in context?
I just fuckin' love this intellectual shit. Thanks Freeze! (What's next...?)
 [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Wednesday, November 26, 2008 7:30:35 AM) |  | Deep Freeze wrote: | | Good Morning, boys and girls. Welcome to Insomniac Theater! Today we will be discussing profanity. That's right! Profanity. Naughty words. Please take out a pencil and paper, take copious notes and be prepared to particpate in the after-class review. Ready? Let's begin:
The origin of the word profane actually stems from a Latin adjective which basically meant "things that do not belong to the church". It was utilized mostly to describe things outside of the church or things such as buildings that were not churches. As a result, the word has come to be used to describe things which are not socially acceptable or vulgar. What was once considered blasphemous has morphed into a more general definition regarding obscene or irreverent language.
Profanity, or swearing, has been categorized in five types:
Dysphemistic: which forces the listener to think in a negative manner
Abusive: used to intimidate or insult
Cathartic: meant to describe a personal, negative emotion
Emphatic: used to emphasize a point
Idiomatic: cursing without referring to a matter
Some profanity has original meaning while others carry implied meaning. The actual degree of profanity is really determined by its effect on the listener. Depending on the group or individual being addressed, the actual meaning or its implication will be processed and the listener will decide if it is appropriate for polite conversation or the particular moment in which the word in employed. Many people use profanity as a way of seeking acceptance among peers. Others seek to use it for "shock value", or the aforementioned intimidation. Most often, the religious connotations are most recognized and, therefore, most understood.
Over time, the effectiveness of certain words changes. Racial slurs and epithets tend to be the most offensive in modern speech, as do words that refer to gender, creed and sexual orientation. Words that disparage a particular group are often considered highly offensive. Words describing certain parts of the body appear to remain the most popular, again as a result of the religious connection and the "blasphemous" nature of such words.
In closing, polite and decent society have yet to agree on just which words, if any, are completely profane in all circumstances. It is generally understood that language, as with behavior, is subject to interpretation but should most often be tempered by the group that make up the "listening body". One could argue that the user should consider his audience and choose appropriate speech, while still others will say that profanity cheapens the message and is disparaging to the user. In any case, there is clearly a line which must be drawn when conducting an open forum and the rules of decency should always prevail.
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[Return_of_Darth_Painkiller_0870] Wednesday, November 26, 2008 7:44:22 PM | |
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I'm pretty certain I've used all 5 fucking forms of bullshit profanity motherfuckers! LOL I need sleep...Nite all! To my fellow Americans, Happy Thanksgiving!!!!!!!!!! |
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[devils_child] Wednesday, November 26, 2008 5:35:57 PM | |
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These are the three I like /use the most..... Cathartic, Emphatic and Idiomatic. I really enjoyed class with you Freeze... What's my homework?.... perhaps create some sentences using the different forms of cursing?..... hehehe....  |
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[Deep Freeze] Wednesday, November 26, 2008 7:51:13 AM | |
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Always a pleasure, my friend. Good day. [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by stratlover from Wednesday, November 26, 2008 7:50:02 AM) |  | stratlover wrote: | | Maybe you remeber how you were? Or maybe I told before...
In any case, Id love to stay and chat, but I will be going home in a few minutes, so I guess ill be around again in the evening (thats when its evening over here, anyway). |  | Deep Freeze wrote: | | Why doesn't that surprise me???? |  | stratlover wrote: | | Well, in that case, you will be very disappointed to hear that teachers could never keep me in school after class... Or during class. |  | Deep Freeze wrote: | | Oh strat! Don't make me keep you after class.......HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |  | stratlover wrote: | | Fucking wow, I mean, dude, thats fucking complicated, I mean fuckedy-fuck-fuck in an asshole and shit, do we really use so many fucking profane shit in our fucking shitty-shit-shit conver-fucking-sations?
Or, in normal English, do we really swear so much that lines have to be drawn? |  | Deep Freeze wrote: | | Good Morning, boys and girls. Welcome to Insomniac Theater! Today we will be discussing profanity. That's right! Profanity. Naughty words. Please take out a pencil and paper, take copious notes and be prepared to particpate in the after-class review. Ready? Let's begin:
The origin of the word profane actually stems from a Latin adjective which basically meant "things that do not belong to the church". It was utilized mostly to describe things outside of the church or things such as buildings that were not churches. As a result, the word has come to be used to describe things which are not socially acceptable or vulgar. What was once considered blasphemous has morphed into a more general definition regarding obscene or irreverent language.
Profanity, or swearing, has been categorized in five types:
Dysphemistic: which forces the listener to think in a negative manner
Abusive: used to intimidate or insult
Cathartic: meant to describe a personal, negative emotion
Emphatic: used to emphasize a point
Idiomatic: cursing without referring to a matter
Some profanity has original meaning while others carry implied meaning. The actual degree of profanity is really determined by its effect on the listener. Depending on the group or individual being addressed, the actual meaning or its implication will be processed and the listener will decide if it is appropriate for polite conversation or the particular moment in which the word in employed. Many people use profanity as a way of seeking acceptance among peers. Others seek to use it for "shock value", or the aforementioned intimidation. Most often, the religious connotations are most recognized and, therefore, most understood.
Over time, the effectiveness of certain words changes. Racial slurs and epithets tend to be the most offensive in modern speech, as do words that refer to gender, creed and sexual orientation. Words that disparage a particular group are often considered highly offensive. Words describing certain parts of the body appear to remain the most popular, again as a result of the religious connection and the "blasphemous" nature of such words.
In closing, polite and decent society have yet to agree on just which words, if any, are completely profane in all circumstances. It is generally understood that language, as with behavior, is subject to interpretation but should most often be tempered by the group that make up the "listening body". One could argue that the user should consider his audience and choose appropriate speech, while still others will say that profanity cheapens the message and is disparaging to the user. In any case, there is clearly a line which must be drawn when conducting an open forum and the rules of decency should always prevail.
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[_strat_] Wednesday, November 26, 2008 7:50:02 AM | |
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Maybe you remeber how you were? Or maybe I told before...
In any case, Id love to stay and chat, but I will be going home in a few minutes, so I guess ill be around again in the evening (thats when its evening over here, anyway). [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Wednesday, November 26, 2008 7:46:32 AM) |  | Deep Freeze wrote: | | Why doesn't that surprise me???? |  | stratlover wrote: | | Well, in that case, you will be very disappointed to hear that teachers could never keep me in school after class... Or during class. |  | Deep Freeze wrote: | | Oh strat! Don't make me keep you after class.......HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |  | stratlover wrote: | | Fucking wow, I mean, dude, thats fucking complicated, I mean fuckedy-fuck-fuck in an asshole and shit, do we really use so many fucking profane shit in our fucking shitty-shit-shit conver-fucking-sations?
Or, in normal English, do we really swear so much that lines have to be drawn? |  | Deep Freeze wrote: | | Good Morning, boys and girls. Welcome to Insomniac Theater! Today we will be discussing profanity. That's right! Profanity. Naughty words. Please take out a pencil and paper, take copious notes and be prepared to particpate in the after-class review. Ready? Let's begin:
The origin of the word profane actually stems from a Latin adjective which basically meant "things that do not belong to the church". It was utilized mostly to describe things outside of the church or things such as buildings that were not churches. As a result, the word has come to be used to describe things which are not socially acceptable or vulgar. What was once considered blasphemous has morphed into a more general definition regarding obscene or irreverent language.
Profanity, or swearing, has been categorized in five types:
Dysphemistic: which forces the listener to think in a negative manner
Abusive: used to intimidate or insult
Cathartic: meant to describe a personal, negative emotion
Emphatic: used to emphasize a point
Idiomatic: cursing without referring to a matter
Some profanity has original meaning while others carry implied meaning. The actual degree of profanity is really determined by its effect on the listener. Depending on the group or individual being addressed, the actual meaning or its implication will be processed and the listener will decide if it is appropriate for polite conversation or the particular moment in which the word in employed. Many people use profanity as a way of seeking acceptance among peers. Others seek to use it for "shock value", or the aforementioned intimidation. Most often, the religious connotations are most recognized and, therefore, most understood.
Over time, the effectiveness of certain words changes. Racial slurs and epithets tend to be the most offensive in modern speech, as do words that refer to gender, creed and sexual orientation. Words that disparage a particular group are often considered highly offensive. Words describing certain parts of the body appear to remain the most popular, again as a result of the religious connection and the "blasphemous" nature of such words.
In closing, polite and decent society have yet to agree on just which words, if any, are completely profane in all circumstances. It is generally understood that language, as with behavior, is subject to interpretation but should most often be tempered by the group that make up the "listening body". One could argue that the user should consider his audience and choose appropriate speech, while still others will say that profanity cheapens the message and is disparaging to the user. In any case, there is clearly a line which must be drawn when conducting an open forum and the rules of decency should always prevail.
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[Deep Freeze] Wednesday, November 26, 2008 7:46:32 AM | |
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Why doesn't that surprise me???? [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by stratlover from Wednesday, November 26, 2008 7:45:28 AM) |  | stratlover wrote: | | Well, in that case, you will be very disappointed to hear that teachers could never keep me in school after class... Or during class. |  | Deep Freeze wrote: | | Oh strat! Don't make me keep you after class.......HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |  | stratlover wrote: | | Fucking wow, I mean, dude, thats fucking complicated, I mean fuckedy-fuck-fuck in an asshole and shit, do we really use so many fucking profane shit in our fucking shitty-shit-shit conver-fucking-sations?
Or, in normal English, do we really swear so much that lines have to be drawn? |  | Deep Freeze wrote: | | Good Morning, boys and girls. Welcome to Insomniac Theater! Today we will be discussing profanity. That's right! Profanity. Naughty words. Please take out a pencil and paper, take copious notes and be prepared to particpate in the after-class review. Ready? Let's begin:
The origin of the word profane actually stems from a Latin adjective which basically meant "things that do not belong to the church". It was utilized mostly to describe things outside of the church or things such as buildings that were not churches. As a result, the word has come to be used to describe things which are not socially acceptable or vulgar. What was once considered blasphemous has morphed into a more general definition regarding obscene or irreverent language.
Profanity, or swearing, has been categorized in five types:
Dysphemistic: which forces the listener to think in a negative manner
Abusive: used to intimidate or insult
Cathartic: meant to describe a personal, negative emotion
Emphatic: used to emphasize a point
Idiomatic: cursing without referring to a matter
Some profanity has original meaning while others carry implied meaning. The actual degree of profanity is really determined by its effect on the listener. Depending on the group or individual being addressed, the actual meaning or its implication will be processed and the listener will decide if it is appropriate for polite conversation or the particular moment in which the word in employed. Many people use profanity as a way of seeking acceptance among peers. Others seek to use it for "shock value", or the aforementioned intimidation. Most often, the religious connotations are most recognized and, therefore, most understood.
Over time, the effectiveness of certain words changes. Racial slurs and epithets tend to be the most offensive in modern speech, as do words that refer to gender, creed and sexual orientation. Words that disparage a particular group are often considered highly offensive. Words describing certain parts of the body appear to remain the most popular, again as a result of the religious connection and the "blasphemous" nature of such words.
In closing, polite and decent society have yet to agree on just which words, if any, are completely profane in all circumstances. It is generally understood that language, as with behavior, is subject to interpretation but should most often be tempered by the group that make up the "listening body". One could argue that the user should consider his audience and choose appropriate speech, while still others will say that profanity cheapens the message and is disparaging to the user. In any case, there is clearly a line which must be drawn when conducting an open forum and the rules of decency should always prevail.
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[_strat_] Wednesday, November 26, 2008 7:45:28 AM | |
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Well, in that case, you will be very disappointed to hear that teachers could never keep me in school after class... Or during class. [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Wednesday, November 26, 2008 7:43:03 AM) |  | Deep Freeze wrote: | | Oh strat! Don't make me keep you after class.......HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |  | stratlover wrote: | | Fucking wow, I mean, dude, thats fucking complicated, I mean fuckedy-fuck-fuck in an asshole and shit, do we really use so many fucking profane shit in our fucking shitty-shit-shit conver-fucking-sations?
Or, in normal English, do we really swear so much that lines have to be drawn? |  | Deep Freeze wrote: | | Good Morning, boys and girls. Welcome to Insomniac Theater! Today we will be discussing profanity. That's right! Profanity. Naughty words. Please take out a pencil and paper, take copious notes and be prepared to particpate in the after-class review. Ready? Let's begin:
The origin of the word profane actually stems from a Latin adjective which basically meant "things that do not belong to the church". It was utilized mostly to describe things outside of the church or things such as buildings that were not churches. As a result, the word has come to be used to describe things which are not socially acceptable or vulgar. What was once considered blasphemous has morphed into a more general definition regarding obscene or irreverent language.
Profanity, or swearing, has been categorized in five types:
Dysphemistic: which forces the listener to think in a negative manner
Abusive: used to intimidate or insult
Cathartic: meant to describe a personal, negative emotion
Emphatic: used to emphasize a point
Idiomatic: cursing without referring to a matter
Some profanity has original meaning while others carry implied meaning. The actual degree of profanity is really determined by its effect on the listener. Depending on the group or individual being addressed, the actual meaning or its implication will be processed and the listener will decide if it is appropriate for polite conversation or the particular moment in which the word in employed. Many people use profanity as a way of seeking acceptance among peers. Others seek to use it for "shock value", or the aforementioned intimidation. Most often, the religious connotations are most recognized and, therefore, most understood.
Over time, the effectiveness of certain words changes. Racial slurs and epithets tend to be the most offensive in modern speech, as do words that refer to gender, creed and sexual orientation. Words that disparage a particular group are often considered highly offensive. Words describing certain parts of the body appear to remain the most popular, again as a result of the religious connection and the "blasphemous" nature of such words.
In closing, polite and decent society have yet to agree on just which words, if any, are completely profane in all circumstances. It is generally understood that language, as with behavior, is subject to interpretation but should most often be tempered by the group that make up the "listening body". One could argue that the user should consider his audience and choose appropriate speech, while still others will say that profanity cheapens the message and is disparaging to the user. In any case, there is clearly a line which must be drawn when conducting an open forum and the rules of decency should always prevail.
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[Deep Freeze] Wednesday, November 26, 2008 7:43:03 AM | |
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Oh strat! Don't make me keep you after class.......HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by stratlover from Wednesday, November 26, 2008 7:41:37 AM) |  | stratlover wrote: | | Fucking wow, I mean, dude, thats fucking complicated, I mean fuckedy-fuck-fuck in an asshole and shit, do we really use so many fucking profane shit in our fucking shitty-shit-shit conver-fucking-sations?
Or, in normal English, do we really swear so much that lines have to be drawn? |  | Deep Freeze wrote: | | Good Morning, boys and girls. Welcome to Insomniac Theater! Today we will be discussing profanity. That's right! Profanity. Naughty words. Please take out a pencil and paper, take copious notes and be prepared to particpate in the after-class review. Ready? Let's begin:
The origin of the word profane actually stems from a Latin adjective which basically meant "things that do not belong to the church". It was utilized mostly to describe things outside of the church or things such as buildings that were not churches. As a result, the word has come to be used to describe things which are not socially acceptable or vulgar. What was once considered blasphemous has morphed into a more general definition regarding obscene or irreverent language.
Profanity, or swearing, has been categorized in five types:
Dysphemistic: which forces the listener to think in a negative manner
Abusive: used to intimidate or insult
Cathartic: meant to describe a personal, negative emotion
Emphatic: used to emphasize a point
Idiomatic: cursing without referring to a matter
Some profanity has original meaning while others carry implied meaning. The actual degree of profanity is really determined by its effect on the listener. Depending on the group or individual being addressed, the actual meaning or its implication will be processed and the listener will decide if it is appropriate for polite conversation or the particular moment in which the word in employed. Many people use profanity as a way of seeking acceptance among peers. Others seek to use it for "shock value", or the aforementioned intimidation. Most often, the religious connotations are most recognized and, therefore, most understood.
Over time, the effectiveness of certain words changes. Racial slurs and epithets tend to be the most offensive in modern speech, as do words that refer to gender, creed and sexual orientation. Words that disparage a particular group are often considered highly offensive. Words describing certain parts of the body appear to remain the most popular, again as a result of the religious connection and the "blasphemous" nature of such words.
In closing, polite and decent society have yet to agree on just which words, if any, are completely profane in all circumstances. It is generally understood that language, as with behavior, is subject to interpretation but should most often be tempered by the group that make up the "listening body". One could argue that the user should consider his audience and choose appropriate speech, while still others will say that profanity cheapens the message and is disparaging to the user. In any case, there is clearly a line which must be drawn when conducting an open forum and the rules of decency should always prevail.
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[_strat_] Wednesday, November 26, 2008 7:41:37 AM | |
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Fucking wow, I mean, dude, thats fucking complicated, I mean fuckedy-fuck-fuck in an asshole and shit, do we really use so many fucking profane shit in our fucking shitty-shit-shit conver-fucking-sations?
Or, in normal English, do we really swear so much that lines have to be drawn? [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Wednesday, November 26, 2008 7:30:35 AM) |  | Deep Freeze wrote: | | Good Morning, boys and girls. Welcome to Insomniac Theater! Today we will be discussing profanity. That's right! Profanity. Naughty words. Please take out a pencil and paper, take copious notes and be prepared to particpate in the after-class review. Ready? Let's begin:
The origin of the word profane actually stems from a Latin adjective which basically meant "things that do not belong to the church". It was utilized mostly to describe things outside of the church or things such as buildings that were not churches. As a result, the word has come to be used to describe things which are not socially acceptable or vulgar. What was once considered blasphemous has morphed into a more general definition regarding obscene or irreverent language.
Profanity, or swearing, has been categorized in five types:
Dysphemistic: which forces the listener to think in a negative manner
Abusive: used to intimidate or insult
Cathartic: meant to describe a personal, negative emotion
Emphatic: used to emphasize a point
Idiomatic: cursing without referring to a matter
Some profanity has original meaning while others carry implied meaning. The actual degree of profanity is really determined by its effect on the listener. Depending on the group or individual being addressed, the actual meaning or its implication will be processed and the listener will decide if it is appropriate for polite conversation or the particular moment in which the word in employed. Many people use profanity as a way of seeking acceptance among peers. Others seek to use it for "shock value", or the aforementioned intimidation. Most often, the religious connotations are most recognized and, therefore, most understood.
Over time, the effectiveness of certain words changes. Racial slurs and epithets tend to be the most offensive in modern speech, as do words that refer to gender, creed and sexual orientation. Words that disparage a particular group are often considered highly offensive. Words describing certain parts of the body appear to remain the most popular, again as a result of the religious connection and the "blasphemous" nature of such words.
In closing, polite and decent society have yet to agree on just which words, if any, are completely profane in all circumstances. It is generally understood that language, as with behavior, is subject to interpretation but should most often be tempered by the group that make up the "listening body". One could argue that the user should consider his audience and choose appropriate speech, while still others will say that profanity cheapens the message and is disparaging to the user. In any case, there is clearly a line which must be drawn when conducting an open forum and the rules of decency should always prevail.
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[Deep Freeze] Wednesday, November 26, 2008 7:30:35 AM | |
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Good Morning, boys and girls. Welcome to Insomniac Theater! Today we will be discussing profanity. That's right! Profanity. Naughty words. Please take out a pencil and paper, take copious notes and be prepared to particpate in the after-class review. Ready? Let's begin:
The origin of the word profane actually stems from a Latin adjective which basically meant "things that do not belong to the church". It was utilized mostly to describe things outside of the church or things such as buildings that were not churches. As a result, the word has come to be used to describe things which are not socially acceptable or vulgar. What was once considered blasphemous has morphed into a more general definition regarding obscene or irreverent language.
Profanity, or swearing, has been categorized in five types:
Dysphemistic: which forces the listener to think in a negative manner
Abusive: used to intimidate or insult
Cathartic: meant to describe a personal, negative emotion
Emphatic: used to emphasize a point
Idiomatic: cursing without referring to a matter
Some profanity has original meaning while others carry implied meaning. The actual degree of profanity is really determined by its effect on the listener. Depending on the group or individual being addressed, the actual meaning or its implication will be processed and the listener will decide if it is appropriate for polite conversation or the particular moment in which the word in employed. Many people use profanity as a way of seeking acceptance among peers. Others seek to use it for "shock value", or the aforementioned intimidation. Most often, the religious connotations are most recognized and, therefore, most understood.
Over time, the effectiveness of certain words changes. Racial slurs and epithets tend to be the most offensive in modern speech, as do words that refer to gender, creed and sexual orientation. Words that disparage a particular group are often considered highly offensive. Words describing certain parts of the body appear to remain the most popular, again as a result of the religious connection and the "blasphemous" nature of such words.
In closing, polite and decent society have yet to agree on just which words, if any, are completely profane in all circumstances. It is generally understood that language, as with behavior, is subject to interpretation but should most often be tempered by the group that make up the "listening body". One could argue that the user should consider his audience and choose appropriate speech, while still others will say that profanity cheapens the message and is disparaging to the user. In any case, there is clearly a line which must be drawn when conducting an open forum and the rules of decency should always prevail.
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[_strat_] Tuesday, November 25, 2008 4:32:57 AM | |
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It would have to be "EDUCATION EVERY DAY", the way the trends on this site seem to be going now. [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Monday, November 24, 2008 5:30:01 PM) |  | Deep Freeze wrote: | | Oh how I would hate to see this Thread closed! Perhaps if HB renamed it Education vs. Tim Owens or Educationally Delicious it would receive more attention?? HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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[devils_child] Monday, November 24, 2008 6:06:49 PM | |
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There's no such thing as Educationally Delicious..... Unless you have pictures of the Priest boys teaching class in their underwear or tight pants that your not showing me..  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Monday, November 24, 2008 5:30:01 PM) |  | Deep Freeze wrote: | | Oh how I would hate to see this Thread closed! Perhaps if HB renamed it Education vs. Tim Owens or Educationally Delicious it would receive more attention?? HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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[Deep Freeze] Monday, November 24, 2008 5:30:01 PM | |
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Oh how I would hate to see this Thread closed! Perhaps if HB renamed it Education vs. Tim Owens or Educationally Delicious it would receive more attention?? HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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