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[hellrider 31038] Monday, January 09, 2012 7:07:17 PM
REPENT AND PREACH THE FAITH.EDUCATE OTHERS. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Budred from Monday, January 09, 2012 6:26:49 PM)
Budred wrote:
I used to do the same thing with casettes when I was a kid and no one called that stealing.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
BUT IT IS
YOUR GETTING FREE COPIES OF ALBUMS.THE BAND MAKE THAT MUSIC FOR A LIVING . .NOT TO GIVE AWAY FOR FREE.
KEEP THE FAITH ( METAL ALIVE)
SUPPORT THE METAL
Budred wrote:
Val, consider this.
I have a home audio CD recorder but you can use the computer also. I assume you
have a library system in California. Between 200 and 300 of my cd's are copies of cd's from the library.
In Ohio you can go to the library and access a database that list every cd that every library in the state has.
Just key in what you're looking for and it will show you what library it's at. You can then have it sent to your
library. Take it home and burn it. My recorder makes true copies so it sounds the same as a bought disc.
I don't believe there are any laws against this so it shouldn't be considered stealing.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Ah. Well then.
In the US: share at your own risk.
Head banger wrote:
actualy the only place I know its against the law is the usa. canada does not curently prohibit file sharing.
YOUR GETTING FREE COPIES OF ALBUMS.THE BAND MAKE THAT MUSIC FOR A LIVING . .NOT TO GIVE AWAY FOR FREE.
KEEP THE FAITH ( METAL ALIVE)
SUPPORT THE METAL
Budred wrote:
Val, consider this.
I have a home audio CD recorder but you can use the computer also. I assume you
have a library system in California. Between 200 and 300 of my cd's are copies of cd's from the library.
In Ohio you can go to the library and access a database that list every cd that every library in the state has.
Just key in what you're looking for and it will show you what library it's at. You can then have it sent to your
library. Take it home and burn it. My recorder makes true copies so it sounds the same as a bought disc.
I don't believe there are any laws against this so it shouldn't be considered stealing.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Ah. Well then.
In the US: share at your own risk.
Head banger wrote:
actualy the only place I know its against the law is the usa. canada does not curently prohibit file sharing.
Val, consider this.
I have a home audio CD recorder but you can use the computer also. I assume you
have a library system in California. Between 200 and 300 of my cd's are copies of cd's from the library.
In Ohio you can go to the library and access a database that list every cd that every library in the state has.
Just key in what you're looking for and it will show you what library it's at. You can then have it sent to your
library. Take it home and burn it. My recorder makes true copies so it sounds the same as a bought disc.
I don't believe there are any laws against this so it shouldn't be considered stealing.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Ah. Well then.
In the US: share at your own risk.
Head banger wrote:
actualy the only place I know its against the law is the usa. canada does not curently prohibit file sharing.
Val, consider this.
I have a home audio CD recorder but you can use the computer also. I assume you
have a library system in California. Between 200 and 300 of my cd's are copies of cd's from the library.
In Ohio you can go to the library and access a database that list every cd that every library in the state has.
Just key in what you're looking for and it will show you what library it's at. You can then have it sent to your
library. Take it home and burn it. My recorder makes true copies so it sounds the same as a bought disc.
I don't believe there are any laws against this so it shouldn't be considered stealing. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Sunday, January 08, 2012 11:29:07 AM)
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Ah. Well then.
In the US: share at your own risk.
Head banger wrote:
actualy the only place I know its against the law is the usa. canada does not curently prohibit file sharing.
HELLO CREATURE
I AM IMAGINING WE ARE FISTING EACH OTHER AND SAYING TO EACH OTHER AT THE SAME TIME
HEEEAVVVYYYYYYYYYYY MEEEEETTTTTTTTTT TTTAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
INNNNTTTTEEEENNNNNNSSSSSSSSEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
[Head banger] Sunday, January 08, 2012 9:25:22 AM
actualy the only place I know its against the law is the usa. canada does not curently prohibit file sharing.
HELLO CREATURE
I AM IMAGINING WE ARE FISTING EACH OTHER AND SAYING TO EACH OTHER AT THE SAME TIME
HEEEAVVVYYYYYYYYYYY MEEEEETTTTTTTTTT TTTAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
INNNNTTTTEEEENNNNNNSSSSSSSSEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
[Head banger] Saturday, January 07, 2012 6:57:42 AM
[Head banger] Saturday, January 07, 2012 6:56:11 AM
based on currency conversion becks thats about the same price. 19.99=about 15.65usd
canada costs a little more than the states, but it varies.
england, when I went there everything looked cheap, do the actual math and it was all a rip off.
CD's were expensive when they first came out, like everything paying for the technology costs and production runs were smaller then. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Becks from Friday, January 06, 2012 10:52:43 PM)
Becks wrote:
Is $19.99 expensive for a CD there? That's pretty standard here, and not unusual to see CDs for more.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
$19.99 for a CD?!? Dayum!
Now that I look back, I did that exact same thing when I first discovered 'Priest: illegaly downloaded their songs, bought the CD format when I had the money and erased the other ones. Once I downloaded all of JP's songs (and found out that it was illegal to do so), that was it.
Hmmm...
Budred wrote:
I wasn't into to it at first either but I couldn't help but think of how many times I overpaid for CD's
because of greedy record companies. You may not remember but when CD's first came out
it was hard to find one under $19.99. I bought many of those. Then I think about how many times
I overpaid for concerts and concert tee's and now it doesn't bother me to take music. For me it's
like revenge.
Sometimes downloads help bands.
(Ex.)I downloaded the MRH catalog and now
I love those guys. I've bought all their CD's except the first one and I've seen them 9 times. The
downloads led to me spending money on them. So without downloads alot of bands wouldn't be
heard at all. Except for the rich no one can afford everything out there so downloads lead to
discovery and that sometimes leads to money in the form of concerts, tee's, or other band merchandise.
I haven't downloaded anything Priest except one video that I don't think is for sale anyway. If you
want it and it's out there take it. Eventually they will figure out a way to stop it so take it while you can.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Don't really like illegal downloading and am broke at the moment, so for now I only buy CDs when I can. I don't really look hard for bands/artists, so there's also that. 11,000 songs just sounds like a sh*tload to me. If I had that many I would probably feel bad for leaving some songs/albums to gather cyber-dust. (Quoting Message by Budred from Thursday, January 05, 2012 3:44:14 AM)
Budred wrote:
If I'm correct you must be in your early twenties. With the internet you can get there in no time.
It took me twenty five years. I've only had the aid of a computer for a little more than two years.
What sucks for me is trying to find stuff I don't have. I wish Jimmy's "Check This Out" thread would
have taken off. That was such an awesome idea and could turn all of us on to new stuff if more
would have contributed. Take care!
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
That is still alot of music!! I don't think I'll even reach half of that in my lifetime! I have about 670 songs in my library...my entire CD collection, as well.
Budred wrote:
(Not purposely) but I exaggerated that a little. I thought I had around 11,800 and rounded up.
I saw your post so I checked and I have 11, 200. Pretty much my entire cd collection is on it.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
12,000 songs?!?
Budred wrote:
You make a good point, I didn't even consider that.
I couldn't tell you how many in Cleveland watched Thin Lizzy. I made it a point not to.
I said before that I hated them but I use that term loosely sometimes. I never have cared
for them though and I don't have a single song of theirs on my iPod out of nearly 12,000.
I never thought they were heavy and I didn't like Phil Lynott's voice at all. (I probably spelled
his name wrong). Anyway, take care man.
Head banger wrote:
perhaps the sheer number of priest vids on youtube slows them down?
3000 at your show? did anyone see thin lizzy? here they went on at 6 to less than 100 people est watching. by sets end there were less than a thousand from a crowd of almost 9000 total.
I watched their whole set.... never again.
Budred wrote:
I was checking out my page on youtube and noticed something interesting about my video views.
Before I post anything let me stress that I do not consider Mushroomhead to be better than Judas Priest.
I was checking total views. I'm not going to list song titles just numbers. These videos were put up two
weeks apart.
Total counts for Priest- Total counts for Mushroomhead-
90 491
131 775
96 450
232 699
164 1212
1425
1095
Does this mean anything? (No) but it is pretty interesting. Mushroomhead isn't even big outside of Cleveland
yet their numbers crush Priest. Actually, I find this a little disturbing. Outside of this site Priest is losing their fanbase.
People aren't interested in them anymore it seems. Gund Arena holds 25,000 people yet Priest only had about 3000
people there. Even though I got ripped for saying it maybe they are picking the right time to do a final tour. This tour
had to lose money, at least for the promoters, so I don't think anyone would be all that eager to promote them in the future.
I'm so glad (and grateful) for their longevity but I'm not noticing a future for them. I hope the new album kicks ass, my
guess is that it may be the final one. Just an opinion, only matters to me.
Edited at: Thursday, January 05, 2012 8:56:29 PM
[Budred] Saturday, January 07, 2012 3:07:39 AM
Everyone is entitled to their opinions but I seriously doubt downloads are the reason for the ridiculous prices.
I remember the $6.50 concerts also. I also remember the prices going up year after year before there were downloads.
Inflation, GREED, and much higher costs, (fuel, venue costs, higher promoter fees, entertainment taxes, etc, etc.). I'm sure
downloads now figure into the equation but it's much more than just that. Because of their greed I have no problem taking
what I do and it doesn't bother me how people feel about it. Fans have been getting screwed for decades, why not screw back?
[Judas Priest / One For The Road] Saturday, January 07, 2012 2:18:25 AM
I remember when concerts were 6.50 and you could go to a ton of them, those were the days. Then when the illegal downloading started taking place tickets jumped like mad for live shows. So if you ever here anyone say wow 60 dollars for Priest or 149 dollars for Van Halen and Kool & The Gang, minga they are killing me with that!! Anyways when people complain about ticket prices, that's how acts get there money nowadays besides merchandise. So people shouldn't be wiener's if there stealing from the band. Have a nice day!!
[Vaillant 3.0] Saturday, January 07, 2012 12:34:40 AM
I've never seen a CD in a store priced at more than $15.99 (yet). $19.99 for a CD? That sucks!!
Is $19.99 expensive for a CD there? That's pretty standard here, and not unusual to see CDs for more.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
$19.99 for a CD?!? Dayum!
Now that I look back, I did that exact same thing when I first discovered 'Priest: illegaly downloaded their songs, bought the CD format when I had the money and erased the other ones. Once I downloaded all of JP's songs (and found out that it was illegal to do so), that was it.
Hmmm...
Budred wrote:
I wasn't into to it at first either but I couldn't help but think of how many times I overpaid for CD's
because of greedy record companies. You may not remember but when CD's first came out
it was hard to find one under $19.99. I bought many of those. Then I think about how many times
I overpaid for concerts and concert tee's and now it doesn't bother me to take music. For me it's
like revenge.
Sometimes downloads help bands.
(Ex.)I downloaded the MRH catalog and now
I love those guys. I've bought all their CD's except the first one and I've seen them 9 times. The
downloads led to me spending money on them. So without downloads alot of bands wouldn't be
heard at all. Except for the rich no one can afford everything out there so downloads lead to
discovery and that sometimes leads to money in the form of concerts, tee's, or other band merchandise.
I haven't downloaded anything Priest except one video that I don't think is for sale anyway. If you
want it and it's out there take it. Eventually they will figure out a way to stop it so take it while you can.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Don't really like illegal downloading and am broke at the moment, so for now I only buy CDs when I can. I don't really look hard for bands/artists, so there's also that. 11,000 songs just sounds like a sh*tload to me. If I had that many I would probably feel bad for leaving some songs/albums to gather cyber-dust. (Quoting Message by Budred from Thursday, January 05, 2012 3:44:14 AM)
Budred wrote:
If I'm correct you must be in your early twenties. With the internet you can get there in no time.
It took me twenty five years. I've only had the aid of a computer for a little more than two years.
What sucks for me is trying to find stuff I don't have. I wish Jimmy's "Check This Out" thread would
have taken off. That was such an awesome idea and could turn all of us on to new stuff if more
would have contributed. Take care!
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
That is still alot of music!! I don't think I'll even reach half of that in my lifetime! I have about 670 songs in my library...my entire CD collection, as well.
Budred wrote:
(Not purposely) but I exaggerated that a little. I thought I had around 11,800 and rounded up.
I saw your post so I checked and I have 11, 200. Pretty much my entire cd collection is on it.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
12,000 songs?!?
Budred wrote:
You make a good point, I didn't even consider that.
I couldn't tell you how many in Cleveland watched Thin Lizzy. I made it a point not to.
I said before that I hated them but I use that term loosely sometimes. I never have cared
for them though and I don't have a single song of theirs on my iPod out of nearly 12,000.
I never thought they were heavy and I didn't like Phil Lynott's voice at all. (I probably spelled
his name wrong). Anyway, take care man.
Head banger wrote:
perhaps the sheer number of priest vids on youtube slows them down?
3000 at your show? did anyone see thin lizzy? here they went on at 6 to less than 100 people est watching. by sets end there were less than a thousand from a crowd of almost 9000 total.
I watched their whole set.... never again.
Budred wrote:
I was checking out my page on youtube and noticed something interesting about my video views.
Before I post anything let me stress that I do not consider Mushroomhead to be better than Judas Priest.
I was checking total views. I'm not going to list song titles just numbers. These videos were put up two
weeks apart.
Total counts for Priest- Total counts for Mushroomhead-
90 491
131 775
96 450
232 699
164 1212
1425
1095
Does this mean anything? (No) but it is pretty interesting. Mushroomhead isn't even big outside of Cleveland
yet their numbers crush Priest. Actually, I find this a little disturbing. Outside of this site Priest is losing their fanbase.
People aren't interested in them anymore it seems. Gund Arena holds 25,000 people yet Priest only had about 3000
people there. Even though I got ripped for saying it maybe they are picking the right time to do a final tour. This tour
had to lose money, at least for the promoters, so I don't think anyone would be all that eager to promote them in the future.
I'm so glad (and grateful) for their longevity but I'm not noticing a future for them. I hope the new album kicks ass, my
guess is that it may be the final one. Just an opinion, only matters to me.
Edited at: Thursday, January 05, 2012 8:56:29 PM
[Becks] Friday, January 06, 2012 10:52:43 PM
Is $19.99 expensive for a CD there? That's pretty standard here, and not unusual to see CDs for more.
Now that I look back, I did that exact same thing when I first discovered 'Priest: illegaly downloaded their songs, bought the CD format when I had the money and erased the other ones. Once I downloaded all of JP's songs (and found out that it was illegal to do so), that was it.
Hmmm...
Budred wrote:
I wasn't into to it at first either but I couldn't help but think of how many times I overpaid for CD's
because of greedy record companies. You may not remember but when CD's first came out
it was hard to find one under $19.99. I bought many of those. Then I think about how many times
I overpaid for concerts and concert tee's and now it doesn't bother me to take music. For me it's
like revenge.
Sometimes downloads help bands.
(Ex.)I downloaded the MRH catalog and now
I love those guys. I've bought all their CD's except the first one and I've seen them 9 times. The
downloads led to me spending money on them. So without downloads alot of bands wouldn't be
heard at all. Except for the rich no one can afford everything out there so downloads lead to
discovery and that sometimes leads to money in the form of concerts, tee's, or other band merchandise.
I haven't downloaded anything Priest except one video that I don't think is for sale anyway. If you
want it and it's out there take it. Eventually they will figure out a way to stop it so take it while you can.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Don't really like illegal downloading and am broke at the moment, so for now I only buy CDs when I can. I don't really look hard for bands/artists, so there's also that. 11,000 songs just sounds like a sh*tload to me. If I had that many I would probably feel bad for leaving some songs/albums to gather cyber-dust. (Quoting Message by Budred from Thursday, January 05, 2012 3:44:14 AM)
Budred wrote:
If I'm correct you must be in your early twenties. With the internet you can get there in no time.
It took me twenty five years. I've only had the aid of a computer for a little more than two years.
What sucks for me is trying to find stuff I don't have. I wish Jimmy's "Check This Out" thread would
have taken off. That was such an awesome idea and could turn all of us on to new stuff if more
would have contributed. Take care!
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
That is still alot of music!! I don't think I'll even reach half of that in my lifetime! I have about 670 songs in my library...my entire CD collection, as well.
Budred wrote:
(Not purposely) but I exaggerated that a little. I thought I had around 11,800 and rounded up.
I saw your post so I checked and I have 11, 200. Pretty much my entire cd collection is on it.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
12,000 songs?!?
Budred wrote:
You make a good point, I didn't even consider that.
I couldn't tell you how many in Cleveland watched Thin Lizzy. I made it a point not to.
I said before that I hated them but I use that term loosely sometimes. I never have cared
for them though and I don't have a single song of theirs on my iPod out of nearly 12,000.
I never thought they were heavy and I didn't like Phil Lynott's voice at all. (I probably spelled
his name wrong). Anyway, take care man.
Head banger wrote:
perhaps the sheer number of priest vids on youtube slows them down?
3000 at your show? did anyone see thin lizzy? here they went on at 6 to less than 100 people est watching. by sets end there were less than a thousand from a crowd of almost 9000 total.
I watched their whole set.... never again.
Budred wrote:
I was checking out my page on youtube and noticed something interesting about my video views.
Before I post anything let me stress that I do not consider Mushroomhead to be better than Judas Priest.
I was checking total views. I'm not going to list song titles just numbers. These videos were put up two
weeks apart.
Total counts for Priest- Total counts for Mushroomhead-
90 491
131 775
96 450
232 699
164 1212
1425
1095
Does this mean anything? (No) but it is pretty interesting. Mushroomhead isn't even big outside of Cleveland
yet their numbers crush Priest. Actually, I find this a little disturbing. Outside of this site Priest is losing their fanbase.
People aren't interested in them anymore it seems. Gund Arena holds 25,000 people yet Priest only had about 3000
people there. Even though I got ripped for saying it maybe they are picking the right time to do a final tour. This tour
had to lose money, at least for the promoters, so I don't think anyone would be all that eager to promote them in the future.
I'm so glad (and grateful) for their longevity but I'm not noticing a future for them. I hope the new album kicks ass, my
guess is that it may be the final one. Just an opinion, only matters to me.
Edited at: Thursday, January 05, 2012 8:56:29 PM
[Vaillant 3.0] Friday, January 06, 2012 7:45:29 PM
$19.99 for a CD?!? Dayum!
Now that I look back, I did that exact same thing when I first discovered 'Priest: illegaly downloaded their songs, bought the CD format when I had the money and erased the other ones. Once I downloaded all of JP's songs (and found out that it was illegal to do so), that was it.
I wasn't into to it at first either but I couldn't help but think of how many times I overpaid for CD's
because of greedy record companies. You may not remember but when CD's first came out
it was hard to find one under $19.99. I bought many of those. Then I think about how many times
I overpaid for concerts and concert tee's and now it doesn't bother me to take music. For me it's
like revenge.
Sometimes downloads help bands.
(Ex.)I downloaded the MRH catalog and now
I love those guys. I've bought all their CD's except the first one and I've seen them 9 times. The
downloads led to me spending money on them. So without downloads alot of bands wouldn't be
heard at all. Except for the rich no one can afford everything out there so downloads lead to
discovery and that sometimes leads to money in the form of concerts, tee's, or other band merchandise.
I haven't downloaded anything Priest except one video that I don't think is for sale anyway. If you
want it and it's out there take it. Eventually they will figure out a way to stop it so take it while you can.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Don't really like illegal downloading and am broke at the moment, so for now I only buy CDs when I can. I don't really look hard for bands/artists, so there's also that. 11,000 songs just sounds like a sh*tload to me. If I had that many I would probably feel bad for leaving some songs/albums to gather cyber-dust. (Quoting Message by Budred from Thursday, January 05, 2012 3:44:14 AM)
Budred wrote:
If I'm correct you must be in your early twenties. With the internet you can get there in no time.
It took me twenty five years. I've only had the aid of a computer for a little more than two years.
What sucks for me is trying to find stuff I don't have. I wish Jimmy's "Check This Out" thread would
have taken off. That was such an awesome idea and could turn all of us on to new stuff if more
would have contributed. Take care!
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
That is still alot of music!! I don't think I'll even reach half of that in my lifetime! I have about 670 songs in my library...my entire CD collection, as well.
Budred wrote:
(Not purposely) but I exaggerated that a little. I thought I had around 11,800 and rounded up.
I saw your post so I checked and I have 11, 200. Pretty much my entire cd collection is on it.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
12,000 songs?!?
Budred wrote:
You make a good point, I didn't even consider that.
I couldn't tell you how many in Cleveland watched Thin Lizzy. I made it a point not to.
I said before that I hated them but I use that term loosely sometimes. I never have cared
for them though and I don't have a single song of theirs on my iPod out of nearly 12,000.
I never thought they were heavy and I didn't like Phil Lynott's voice at all. (I probably spelled
his name wrong). Anyway, take care man.
Head banger wrote:
perhaps the sheer number of priest vids on youtube slows them down?
3000 at your show? did anyone see thin lizzy? here they went on at 6 to less than 100 people est watching. by sets end there were less than a thousand from a crowd of almost 9000 total.
I watched their whole set.... never again.
Budred wrote:
I was checking out my page on youtube and noticed something interesting about my video views.
Before I post anything let me stress that I do not consider Mushroomhead to be better than Judas Priest.
I was checking total views. I'm not going to list song titles just numbers. These videos were put up two
weeks apart.
Total counts for Priest- Total counts for Mushroomhead-
90 491
131 775
96 450
232 699
164 1212
1425
1095
Does this mean anything? (No) but it is pretty interesting. Mushroomhead isn't even big outside of Cleveland
yet their numbers crush Priest. Actually, I find this a little disturbing. Outside of this site Priest is losing their fanbase.
People aren't interested in them anymore it seems. Gund Arena holds 25,000 people yet Priest only had about 3000
people there. Even though I got ripped for saying it maybe they are picking the right time to do a final tour. This tour
had to lose money, at least for the promoters, so I don't think anyone would be all that eager to promote them in the future.
I'm so glad (and grateful) for their longevity but I'm not noticing a future for them. I hope the new album kicks ass, my
guess is that it may be the final one. Just an opinion, only matters to me.
Edited at: Thursday, January 05, 2012 8:56:29 PM
[Nupe The Ripper] Friday, January 06, 2012 11:13:53 AM
I agree. Without illegal downloading, I wouldn't have found out about most of my favorite bands. The only bands of which I've bought CDs but haven't illegally downloaded their music first have been Uriah Heep and Deep Purple, because I got to know threm through my father. But Priest, Saxon, Scorpions (only a bit heard on radio), Accept, Railway; all of them I've first pirated, then at a later time I've started to buy their stuff to clear my conscience. And I most definitely wouldn't have gotten into them in the first place if it weren't for pirating.
By the way, I've 1 137 songs in my music library, of which probably about 85% are legally bought or bootlegs.
I wasn't into to it at first either but I couldn't help but think of how many times I overpaid for CD's
because of greedy record companies. You may not remember but when CD's first came out
it was hard to find one under $19.99. I bought many of those. Then I think about how many times
I overpaid for concerts and concert tee's and now it doesn't bother me to take music. For me it's
like revenge.
Sometimes downloads help bands.
(Ex.)I downloaded the MRH catalog and now
I love those guys. I've bought all their CD's except the first one and I've seen them 9 times. The
downloads led to me spending money on them. So without downloads alot of bands wouldn't be
heard at all. Except for the rich no one can afford everything out there so downloads lead to
discovery and that sometimes leads to money in the form of concerts, tee's, or other band merchandise.
I haven't downloaded anything Priest except one video that I don't think is for sale anyway. If you
want it and it's out there take it. Eventually they will figure out a way to stop it so take it while you can.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Don't really like illegal downloading and am broke at the moment, so for now I only buy CDs when I can. I don't really look hard for bands/artists, so there's also that. 11,000 songs just sounds like a sh*tload to me. If I had that many I would probably feel bad for leaving some songs/albums to gather cyber-dust. (Quoting Message by Budred from Thursday, January 05, 2012 3:44:14 AM)
Budred wrote:
If I'm correct you must be in your early twenties. With the internet you can get there in no time.
It took me twenty five years. I've only had the aid of a computer for a little more than two years.
What sucks for me is trying to find stuff I don't have. I wish Jimmy's "Check This Out" thread would
have taken off. That was such an awesome idea and could turn all of us on to new stuff if more
would have contributed. Take care!
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
That is still alot of music!! I don't think I'll even reach half of that in my lifetime! I have about 670 songs in my library...my entire CD collection, as well.
Budred wrote:
(Not purposely) but I exaggerated that a little. I thought I had around 11,800 and rounded up.
I saw your post so I checked and I have 11, 200. Pretty much my entire cd collection is on it.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
12,000 songs?!?
Budred wrote:
You make a good point, I didn't even consider that.
I couldn't tell you how many in Cleveland watched Thin Lizzy. I made it a point not to.
I said before that I hated them but I use that term loosely sometimes. I never have cared
for them though and I don't have a single song of theirs on my iPod out of nearly 12,000.
I never thought they were heavy and I didn't like Phil Lynott's voice at all. (I probably spelled
his name wrong). Anyway, take care man.
Head banger wrote:
perhaps the sheer number of priest vids on youtube slows them down?
3000 at your show? did anyone see thin lizzy? here they went on at 6 to less than 100 people est watching. by sets end there were less than a thousand from a crowd of almost 9000 total.
I watched their whole set.... never again.
Budred wrote:
I was checking out my page on youtube and noticed something interesting about my video views.
Before I post anything let me stress that I do not consider Mushroomhead to be better than Judas Priest.
I was checking total views. I'm not going to list song titles just numbers. These videos were put up two
weeks apart.
Total counts for Priest- Total counts for Mushroomhead-
90 491
131 775
96 450
232 699
164 1212
1425
1095
Does this mean anything? (No) but it is pretty interesting. Mushroomhead isn't even big outside of Cleveland
yet their numbers crush Priest. Actually, I find this a little disturbing. Outside of this site Priest is losing their fanbase.
People aren't interested in them anymore it seems. Gund Arena holds 25,000 people yet Priest only had about 3000
people there. Even though I got ripped for saying it maybe they are picking the right time to do a final tour. This tour
had to lose money, at least for the promoters, so I don't think anyone would be all that eager to promote them in the future.
I'm so glad (and grateful) for their longevity but I'm not noticing a future for them. I hope the new album kicks ass, my
guess is that it may be the final one. Just an opinion, only matters to me.
Edited at: Thursday, January 05, 2012 8:56:29 PM
Edited at: Friday, January 06, 2012 11:16:48 AM
[Budred] Friday, January 06, 2012 4:06:57 AM
I wasn't into to it at first either but I couldn't help but think of how many times I overpaid for CD's
because of greedy record companies. You may not remember but when CD's first came out
it was hard to find one under $19.99. I bought many of those. Then I think about how many times
I overpaid for concerts and concert tee's and now it doesn't bother me to take music. For me it's
like revenge.
Sometimes downloads help bands.
(Ex.)I downloaded the MRH catalog and now
I love those guys. I've bought all their CD's except the first one and I've seen them 9 times. The
downloads led to me spending money on them. So without downloads alot of bands wouldn't be
heard at all. Except for the rich no one can afford everything out there so downloads lead to
discovery and that sometimes leads to money in the form of concerts, tee's, or other band merchandise.
I haven't downloaded anything Priest except one video that I don't think is for sale anyway. If you
want it and it's out there take it. Eventually they will figure out a way to stop it so take it while you can.
Don't really like illegal downloading and am broke at the moment, so for now I only buy CDs when I can. I don't really look hard for bands/artists, so there's also that. 11,000 songs just sounds like a sh*tload to me. If I had that many I would probably feel bad for leaving some songs/albums to gather cyber-dust. (Quoting Message by Budred from Thursday, January 05, 2012 3:44:14 AM)
Budred wrote:
If I'm correct you must be in your early twenties. With the internet you can get there in no time.
It took me twenty five years. I've only had the aid of a computer for a little more than two years.
What sucks for me is trying to find stuff I don't have. I wish Jimmy's "Check This Out" thread would
have taken off. That was such an awesome idea and could turn all of us on to new stuff if more
would have contributed. Take care!
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
That is still alot of music!! I don't think I'll even reach half of that in my lifetime! I have about 670 songs in my library...my entire CD collection, as well.
Budred wrote:
(Not purposely) but I exaggerated that a little. I thought I had around 11,800 and rounded up.
I saw your post so I checked and I have 11, 200. Pretty much my entire cd collection is on it.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
12,000 songs?!?
Budred wrote:
You make a good point, I didn't even consider that.
I couldn't tell you how many in Cleveland watched Thin Lizzy. I made it a point not to.
I said before that I hated them but I use that term loosely sometimes. I never have cared
for them though and I don't have a single song of theirs on my iPod out of nearly 12,000.
I never thought they were heavy and I didn't like Phil Lynott's voice at all. (I probably spelled
his name wrong). Anyway, take care man.
Head banger wrote:
perhaps the sheer number of priest vids on youtube slows them down?
3000 at your show? did anyone see thin lizzy? here they went on at 6 to less than 100 people est watching. by sets end there were less than a thousand from a crowd of almost 9000 total.
I watched their whole set.... never again.
Budred wrote:
I was checking out my page on youtube and noticed something interesting about my video views.
Before I post anything let me stress that I do not consider Mushroomhead to be better than Judas Priest.
I was checking total views. I'm not going to list song titles just numbers. These videos were put up two
weeks apart.
Total counts for Priest- Total counts for Mushroomhead-
90 491
131 775
96 450
232 699
164 1212
1425
1095
Does this mean anything? (No) but it is pretty interesting. Mushroomhead isn't even big outside of Cleveland
yet their numbers crush Priest. Actually, I find this a little disturbing. Outside of this site Priest is losing their fanbase.
People aren't interested in them anymore it seems. Gund Arena holds 25,000 people yet Priest only had about 3000
people there. Even though I got ripped for saying it maybe they are picking the right time to do a final tour. This tour
had to lose money, at least for the promoters, so I don't think anyone would be all that eager to promote them in the future.
I'm so glad (and grateful) for their longevity but I'm not noticing a future for them. I hope the new album kicks ass, my
guess is that it may be the final one. Just an opinion, only matters to me.
Edited at: Thursday, January 05, 2012 8:56:29 PM
[Vaillant 3.0] Thursday, January 05, 2012 8:56:11 PM
Don't really like illegal downloading and am broke at the moment, so for now I only buy CDs when I can. I don't really look hard for bands/artists, so there's also that. 11,000 songs just sounds like a sh*tload to me. If I had that many I would probably feel bad for leaving some songs/albums to gather cyber-dust. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Budred from Thursday, January 05, 2012 3:44:14 AM)
Budred wrote:
If I'm correct you must be in your early twenties. With the internet you can get there in no time.
It took me twenty five years. I've only had the aid of a computer for a little more than two years.
What sucks for me is trying to find stuff I don't have. I wish Jimmy's "Check This Out" thread would
have taken off. That was such an awesome idea and could turn all of us on to new stuff if more
would have contributed. Take care!
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
That is still alot of music!! I don't think I'll even reach half of that in my lifetime! I have about 670 songs in my library...my entire CD collection, as well.
Budred wrote:
(Not purposely) but I exaggerated that a little. I thought I had around 11,800 and rounded up.
I saw your post so I checked and I have 11, 200. Pretty much my entire cd collection is on it.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
12,000 songs?!?
Budred wrote:
You make a good point, I didn't even consider that.
I couldn't tell you how many in Cleveland watched Thin Lizzy. I made it a point not to.
I said before that I hated them but I use that term loosely sometimes. I never have cared
for them though and I don't have a single song of theirs on my iPod out of nearly 12,000.
I never thought they were heavy and I didn't like Phil Lynott's voice at all. (I probably spelled
his name wrong). Anyway, take care man.
Head banger wrote:
perhaps the sheer number of priest vids on youtube slows them down?
3000 at your show? did anyone see thin lizzy? here they went on at 6 to less than 100 people est watching. by sets end there were less than a thousand from a crowd of almost 9000 total.
I watched their whole set.... never again.
Budred wrote:
I was checking out my page on youtube and noticed something interesting about my video views.
Before I post anything let me stress that I do not consider Mushroomhead to be better than Judas Priest.
I was checking total views. I'm not going to list song titles just numbers. These videos were put up two
weeks apart.
Total counts for Priest- Total counts for Mushroomhead-
90 491
131 775
96 450
232 699
164 1212
1425
1095
Does this mean anything? (No) but it is pretty interesting. Mushroomhead isn't even big outside of Cleveland
yet their numbers crush Priest. Actually, I find this a little disturbing. Outside of this site Priest is losing their fanbase.
People aren't interested in them anymore it seems. Gund Arena holds 25,000 people yet Priest only had about 3000
people there. Even though I got ripped for saying it maybe they are picking the right time to do a final tour. This tour
had to lose money, at least for the promoters, so I don't think anyone would be all that eager to promote them in the future.
I'm so glad (and grateful) for their longevity but I'm not noticing a future for them. I hope the new album kicks ass, my
guess is that it may be the final one. Just an opinion, only matters to me.
Edited at: Thursday, January 05, 2012 8:56:29 PM
[Stratovarius217] Thursday, January 05, 2012 7:51:42 PM
I think in the past Priest has been a Classic Metal band and as they got older I believe that when they went to preform maybe in 2000 to 2012 or made new albums like Angel of Retribution and Nostradamus to me they sounded Heavier. I'm guessing some people stick with Priest's Classic side and some might like Priest's Heavier side. But I respect every ones opinion and just hope that Judas Priest will have a future. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Budred from Thursday, January 05, 2012 3:37:32 AM)
Budred wrote:
I love your attitude and i'm glad there are people like you out there. You guys/gals will help
keep the legacy alive. I only feel the way I do because I've been listening to them for over 31
years but the last 10 have been a bit of a disappointment for me. I know what they were once
capable of doing. Now with K.K. gone and them sounding different it's harder and harder for me
to get into them like I once did. Due to age the tempo of their music has slowed a little also.
There is a video of them from 1983 (Dortmund Festival). Search this out and watch and listen.
You'll see why it's hard for me now. I still love them if for no other reason than longevity and I
tell people all the time that I'm glad I picked Priest as a favorite band. I can think of only one band
from my youth that still sounds great and that's Megadeth. I just got their new disc and other than
the first track it sounds as good as the early stuff. Anyway, keep the faith. Peace!
Netanyah99RobH8 wrote:
Well, I am young, quite young and I actually haven't listened to all the Priest songs yet. Judas Priest has made a lot of songs and some people (in my generation) haven't listened to all their songs either. So it might take a some time as they get addicted to a song listen to it over and over then move on to the next song. They will eventually grow out of Priest and moved on but also might have passed it down to family and friends who are young. And all the young people that are new to Priest and Priest's songs will listen to their music that they've made in the past. Priest loses fans but also gets fans right there. I know its past music but it will seem new to the youngsters.
Judas Priest's history they've had members come and go. That might be the case when Priest members we have now leave or something. I really don't want Priest to die out and if that's where their heading I just wanted to say something positive to kinda say that Priest still has fans that are young and will hopefully carry on with the Faith even if its past music.
Personally I think the past is better because there was better artists. I don't know about other people, agree, don't agree, this is just my opinion..
Budred wrote:
I'm going to assume that you must be young and your enthusiasm towards the Priest has to be commended.
If you are young then you probably don't understand the concept of age yet. These guys are not getting any younger
and they definitely don't have the drawing power of years gone by. People are not patient for new music and they
will be passed by if they continue to draw this out so long in between records. I'm afraid that you and your generation
are only going to have the past to enjoy when it comes to Priest. Since Rob's return I've been stuck in the past. I call them
my favorite band but if the only thing I heard from them was what they've done since Demolition then I probably wouldn't be
much of a fan at all. I can't stay in the past when it comes to music, I choose to move forward.
Netanyah99RobH8 wrote:
Aw man. Well I think Priest will have a future with my generation. I've got my whole class addicted to them. Some of my friends have bought albums like single cuts. I've got my younger cousins addicted and they're telling their friends about Priest. Even got some teachers addicted and they pass Priests' awesome music along. No matter what we all know Judas Priest is da beast
Budred wrote:
I was checking out my page on youtube and noticed something interesting about my video views.
Before I post anything let me stress that I do not consider Mushroomhead to be better than Judas Priest.
I was checking total views. I'm not going to list song titles just numbers. These videos were put up two
weeks apart.
Total counts for Priest- Total counts for Mushroomhead-
90 491
131 775
96 450
232 699
164 1212
1425
1095
Does this mean anything? (No) but it is pretty interesting. Mushroomhead isn't even big outside of Cleveland
yet their numbers crush Priest. Actually, I find this a little disturbing. Outside of this site Priest is losing their fanbase.
People aren't interested in them anymore it seems. Gund Arena holds 25,000 people yet Priest only had about 3000
people there. Even though I got ripped for saying it maybe they are picking the right time to do a final tour. This tour
had to lose money, at least for the promoters, so I don't think anyone would be all that eager to promote them in the future.
I'm so glad (and grateful) for their longevity but I'm not noticing a future for them. I hope the new album kicks ass, my
guess is that it may be the final one. Just an opinion, only matters to me.
