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Nosrtadamus = metal?






   

[~ MG_Metalgoddess~] Monday, April 20, 2009 7:46:26 PM 

LOL..  I Know I understand......  exactly how you feel.... You are a passionate person.




 

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[hellrider 31038] Monday, April 20, 2009 7:04:01 PM 
[J.D. DIAMOND] Monday, April 20, 2009 5:51:47 PM 
I will not be "disrespected" by some smart ass loser who thinks he is tough. Fucking geeks.
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[J.D. DIAMOND] Monday, April 20, 2009 5:50:10 PM 
It has nothing to do with "trying to talk tough" on an internet site,it is about posting in a respectful mannor,which obviously "you" have no fucking clue how to do that by the smart ass post you just left.

The only real "losers" here are SadWingsRaging and "jimmyjames" for thier smart ass comments. Why don't you pack up your shit and leave here,you woul'nt be missed by anyone asshole from New Zealand. Think about what you say before you open up your fucking mouth.
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[Cooper Ryback] Monday, April 20, 2009 5:36:25 PM 
Man you are 100% exactly right about Nostradamus. Its an opera album with just a little bit of metal thrown in. I only like about 3 or 4 songs on that cd. It eems llike there are a 100 songs on that thing and it goes on and on and on with just a few good metal moments here and there. I just don't care for the orchestra stuff. If they go out and do Nostradamus with an orchestra like Metallica did it would be pretty sad.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Sunday, April 19, 2009 4:55:17 PM)
[jimmyjames] Monday, April 20, 2009 4:48:15 PM 
You know what cracks me up? Guys trying to talk tough on an internet site. Losers.
[Head banger] Monday, April 20, 2009 4:36:37 PM 
if you take away all JD's discs I will store them for you.  just cleaned out an area in the garage.  I know it must be a large space required.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by MG_Metalgoddess from Monday, April 20, 2009 4:20:13 PM)
[~ MG_Metalgoddess~] Monday, April 20, 2009 4:20:13 PM 
Okay Okay J.D.   Youre grounded,   Sad W.  your grounded also..LOL   I understand the ridicule that went along with comments,  And I agree its not fair to castersize, one another...  We can give opinions with-out all the rederic.  

ANd I will say Yes Priest are still metal.     SO Until further notice,,,  No talking to each other on any topic. for at least a week!  Or I will have to take your Metal Cd's away for a week!!     Along with both of your Nostradamus cd's included!    ...


J.D.  You Know I luv ya man...  Between the 2 of us we have been snuffed alot out here...  I understand.

Hugs MG~
[Necroticist] Monday, April 20, 2009 3:28:33 PM 
Soz to butt in - but i just made a comment on Nostradamus too - other thread - is no secret i'm not a fan of that CD - but plz don't drag me into this one, i been away a few days and have no clue...but remember ppl - if we all had the same opinions...the world would be a boring place. Try keep 'board harmony' tho. Peace   \m/
[J.D. DIAMOND] Monday, April 20, 2009 3:21:31 PM 
To Darth & MG...I don't care about the fucking "album" thats not the point here,its his "RUDE" behavior and his "smart ass way of posting" being a smart ass with his rude fucking comments.That jack ass does it again,and he will get the same response. I never said anything 'rude" to him to begin with,so he needs to step the fuck back,sit the fuck down and shut the fuck up.
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[Return_of_Darth_Painkiller_0870] Monday, April 20, 2009 2:39:03 PM 
MG's right....c'mon guys, there's no need for this type of sad commentary.   J.D. and SadWings, you guys have differing opinions on "Nostradamus".   Leave it and let it be.  It's not worth arguing over is it?   I don't think either of you meant to insult each other to begin with....so just forgive and forget.
[~ MG_Metalgoddess~] Monday, April 20, 2009 10:15:57 AM 

Guys,,,   Please dont argue .. about the album,,   There are so many dif perspectivies on the album,   To some its not Metal enough,  to others its different style of priest and they like/ accept it..   It is what it is... 

No-one is right/wrong.   In deciding how they feel...

 

MG~

[J.D. DIAMOND] Monday, April 20, 2009 3:23:14 AM 

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[SadWingsRaging] Monday, April 20, 2009 2:44:05 AM 
[J.D. DIAMOND] Monday, April 20, 2009 2:27:51 AM 
SadWingsRaging wrote:   "I think I can speak for most of us on this. Please do not try to push metal into whatever limited box you wish to define it in. Personaly I do not give a fart in a tornado for most black metal/death metal but whatever floats your boat dude, just stay off of mine."


I never said any rude inconsiderate shit like that to you and ...Yes,you did "insult me"  you inconsiderate hillbilly - Who the "fuck" are "you"(of all people) to waltz on in here and be rude to me,huh asshole? 

Watch what the fuck you say to people around here,got it?  

 [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by SadWingsRaging from Monday, April 20, 2009 2:17:58 AM)
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[SadWingsRaging] Monday, April 20, 2009 2:17:58 AM 
First off, I at no point insulted you or anyone else in my post did I? Second, punk, your opinion is exactly that, your opinion & we ALL know the old saying about opinions do we not. I have been to almost every state in the union & ya know what? Jerks from washington are exactly like jerks from mississippi or ohio or florida or montana ect. ect.. There is not a nickels worth of difference. Resorting to insults or better yet 'percieved insults' from some twirp in seattle is a great way to argue your point on a subject that is purely opinion based says a lot about you & your opinions. Have a great night.
[J.D. DIAMOND] Monday, April 20, 2009 1:04:20 AM 
I could'nt "dis-agree" with you more here. "Nostradamus" is hardly a "metal album",does it have "any" heavy metal in it? Yes.Does it have enough of it in it to be considered a "heavy metal album"? No,"obviously". 

SadWingsRaging wrote:  "Please do not try to push metal into whatever limited box you wish to define it in."I'm not "pushing metal into a limited box"....if you think so after reading my last post, than your more of an idiot than I thought you were(if that is possible). 

Shake the "dumb" off of your  fuckin "brain" , go back and learn from what you read asshole from none other than(rolling my eyes)Mississippi.


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[Return_of_Darth_Painkiller_0870] Sunday, April 19, 2009 7:55:20 PM 
LMFAO!!!!!   "A fart in a tornado" has to be the single most funniest comment I've heard!  

However, I do agree with you.  Nostradamus is Metal.   And most importantly, PRIEST IS METAL!!!!!!
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[~ MG_Metalgoddess~] Sunday, April 19, 2009 7:09:04 PM 
a fart in a tornado.....  LMAO ... ROFL....  thats a good one..
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[SadWingsRaging] Sunday, April 19, 2009 7:05:14 PM 
Are Priest metal?

Is darkness nothing more than the absence of light?

Nostradamus is, in my opinion, 'heraldic bardery' performed with a flying V instead of a lyre. I can not wait for them to do the Greek pantheon in an album along these lines IF that is what they choose to do. Is it my favorite Priest album? Not really. Do I like it, you freaking bet. Is it "metal"? Obviously.

I think I can speak for most of us on this. Please do not try to push metal into whatever limited box you wish to define it in. Personaly I do not give a fart in a tornado for most black metal/death metal but whatever floats your boat dude, just stay off of mine.
[J.D. DIAMOND] Sunday, April 19, 2009 4:55:17 PM 

I agree with Numero Uno,with the Shitallica and Symphony clip that he has given as an example here.  Another example is the terrible album of "Nostradamus".Sorry people but Nostradamus is not a heavy metal album sprinkled with a little "opera". 

It is an "Opera album" sprinkled with a little heavy metal....a little.  

On Angel Of Retribution...they did the track "Elegy" which has atmosphere with the instraments such as keyboards and piano..ect..but that is a small part to the album which is used the right way.

It is not a long boring song,just a song that leaves you no option but to like it.   If it were 10 minutes long...it would be the worst part on the album...even worse than the only bad track on the album in "Lochness" which is tough to get any worse(lol!) 

Its ok to use some classical elements into the album if its done the right way. Take Ronnie James Dio's "Magica" for example...that is the correct way to add classical elements into a real "Heavy Metal" album.Magica is definately a "heavy metal " album,even though it has loads of instraments in it that Nostradamus has....you never look at Magica as being "over-done" or an "overkill of opera/classical elements" like Nostradamus is.

Nostradamus leaves you with the sensation that you did not just hear a heavy metal album.There is far not enough heavy metal in Nostradamus,not near enough.


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[hellrider 31038] Sunday, April 19, 2009 2:14:16 PM 

wwoooooooo  man thats butal.yuuukkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk.if you please excuse me i think i need to throw up.


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[Tseirp Saduj] Saturday, April 18, 2009 5:39:25 PM 
They are.
[Cooper Ryback] Saturday, April 18, 2009 1:49:45 PM 
Get over it dude. I never said metal music didn't have classical elements. I said I didn't care for the orchestration. You seem to like orchestration mixed in with the metal you listen to. Fine with me. I like real hardcore metal without that stuff. Here's a good reason orchestra doesn't belong in metal music. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziThYl6B2vw  lol!!!!!!

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[Phantom A6] Friday, April 17, 2009 6:21:51 PM 
 Scooooooteeeeeer!!!!!!  
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[Priestnut [Banned]] Friday, April 17, 2009 1:35:12 PM 
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[Bazookajoe_666] Monday, April 06, 2009 11:13:14 AM 
Alright I forgot about this thread, and the fact that I said I said I'd stay out. Oh well, too late now.

So how am I a piece of work though? You didn't read a single one of my posts, that was pretty obvious right from the start, and you can't even come up with decent arguements for what you were saying. So again I'll ask...

How are Priest not classically influenced and why is anything classical/orchestral/opera NOT a part of metal? I already explained all this, but you haven't come up with 1 excuse (not even a bad one). You just say "it's gay, orchestra music sucks". Seriously dude, I would love to actually see you at least TRY to participate in this arguement.

Here are some facts:

- Glenn Tipton himself will tell you Priest's music and his guitar playing is heavily influenced by classical playing. That doesn't mean Just Nostradamus. That means his guitar playing, and Priest's music, NOT album.

-It's a well know FACT that Metal is indeed heavily influenced in classical music. Like I said, look up Iron Maiden's music. There is nothing sad about it, your just extremely closed minded and can't understand that "Metal" ISN'T just one sound and feeling. 

-Metal draws it's roots from deep in the blues, rock n roll, and classical music.
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[CountessErzebethBathory9] Monday, April 06, 2009 6:17:00 AM 
YOU SAID IT ALL!! THE PRIEST
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[DelivererofEvil] Monday, April 06, 2009 4:59:32 AM 
Rock Hard with a purpose
Got a mind that won't bend
Die hard resolution
That is true to the end!

They will ALWAYS! be Metal, they bloody created the style, along with Sabbath!
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by ShadowVT from Monday, April 06, 2009 4:49:47 AM)
[ShadowVT] Monday, April 06, 2009 4:49:47 AM 

The Priest is THE METAL BAND in their own Way
have and always will be

ROCK HARD RIDE FREE

[Ellieke] Monday, April 06, 2009 4:44:37 AM 
Offcours !!! 
Even our children are headbaning to the music ( they are 1.5, 5,6,11 and 18 years old ) and they love it asmuch as we do
[Judas Lover***] Thursday, April 02, 2009 9:59:42 AM 
[Judas Lover***] Thursday, April 02, 2009 9:58:31 AM 
priest they are the metal gods
[Tigress] Thursday, April 02, 2009 9:43:34 AM 
Ummm, are we made of carbon?
[Head banger] Thursday, March 19, 2009 10:30:22 PM 
and a fuck of a lot of them!!!
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[adrianaec_88] Thursday, March 19, 2009 9:50:14 PM 
she was so right....
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[devils_child] Thursday, March 19, 2009 9:48:02 PM 
.. My geography teacher used to say that!
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[adrianaec_88] Thursday, March 19, 2009 9:21:47 PM 
lmao...
[flowerchild] Thursday, March 19, 2009 9:20:17 PM 
hell yeah they are!! they are the epitome of heavy metal if you ask me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

(i hope i said that correctly....)
[robrey] Thursday, March 19, 2009 12:48:14 PM 
OF COURSE THEY ARE !!!!!!AND I`M SURE THEY´LL  ALLWAYS BE!!!!!!!!!!!.
[Sentinel14] Thursday, March 05, 2009 8:14:32 AM 
Priest are old school metal - in my humble opinion more listenable to than the death metal and thrsah metal that we get so much today.
Give me Priest anyday.
[icecreamman] Tuesday, January 27, 2009 6:19:42 PM 

Priest not Metal? Are you serious!!!

 

PRIEST ARE METAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




[_strat_] Saturday, January 17, 2009 11:11:50 AM 



This thread needs some peacekeepers...
[Vaillant 3.0] Saturday, January 17, 2009 11:04:15 AM 
Can I stay in it?
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Numero Uno from Saturday, January 17, 2009 11:00:34 AM)
[Cooper Ryback] Saturday, January 17, 2009 11:00:34 AM 
Stick that where the sun don't shine! You can stay out of the thread too.
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[Cooper Ryback] Saturday, January 17, 2009 10:59:27 AM 
Unbelievable. What a piece of work you are.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Bazooka Joe from Friday, January 16, 2009 12:51:03 PM)
[metalmaz] Saturday, January 17, 2009 8:58:46 AM 
The last album is one of their least heavy, but overall yes they are.
[<<<< x >>>>] Saturday, January 17, 2009 8:37:12 AM 
Numero Uno , Why have you even asked the question ? - MUPPETT. 
You have probably insulted every Priest fan Alive or Dead and more so every British metal fan!!!!!You can obviously see that Priest have just evolved with time and come into the Naughty's!!!!!Nostadamus is not about thrashing everything out at 100mph!!!! It's all about the story!!!!!
[Head banger] Friday, January 16, 2009 12:58:36 PM 
dont hold back, tell us how you realy feel!!!
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Bazooka Joe from Friday, January 16, 2009 12:51:03 PM)
[Bazookajoe_666] Friday, January 16, 2009 12:51:03 PM 
I'll stay out of this thread sure, but not because you said so, but because you too much a fuckin idiot to even hold a respectful conversation that isn't ignorant as shit, like you are, so I'll be off now.
[Bazookajoe_666] Friday, January 16, 2009 12:43:52 PM 
Oh my god...... are you seriously that stupid?

I KNOW you didn't say any of that, I!!! said that, not you. I only said it BECAUSE you were doing the exact same fucking thing to ME. JEsus Christ buddy, do you really have that much trouble following a conversation? READ THE FUCKING WORDS.

And no Iron Maiden on piano isn't pathetic, your just a closed minded ignorant fuck that doesn't even understand or appreciate music in general.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Numero Uno from Friday, January 16, 2009 10:37:50 AM)
[K2M] Friday, January 16, 2009 12:38:41 PM 
I am
[Cooper Ryback] Friday, January 16, 2009 10:37:50 AM 
Nope, never said any of that. Never said a thing about homophobia. Never said metal didn't have classical elements. All I said was that orchestra music is not metal. Read. And yes ,Iron Maiden on piano is sad. Maybe you should just stay out of this thread.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Bazooka Joe from Thursday, January 15, 2009 10:41:36 AM)
[Bazookajoe_666] Thursday, January 15, 2009 10:46:27 AM 
I understand that you have your own opinions and I respect them, BUT to deny simple and well known facts like metal having a good size of classical/orchestral influence is completely ignorant and close minded. Just being the guitars aren't crunch crunch doesn't mean its not metal. Things were metal because crunch was even brought into metal.
[Bazookajoe_666] Thursday, January 15, 2009 10:41:36 AM 
I only said you were or thought those things because you were doing the exact same thing to me. Assuming, so are you gonna stop doing that or what? As soon as you do, I will too.

I didn't say classical was my favorite style of music, or metal with classical elements, I love it all the same though.

I agree that Rush aren't metal, there just prog rock, still a good band though.

But I don't see how Iron Maiden songs done on piano is sad though. They sound amazing. Like I said, they sound as if they were written on piano's originally. Not all bands music can do that, but some do. And there's nothing sad about being able to play an instrument other then guitar and drums. If anything, piano is more challanging then guitar simple because your playing the guitar oriented parts and the bass parts all at the same time. And controlling different effects with your foot too, like making notes sustain and whatnot.

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Numero Uno from Tuesday, January 13, 2009 11:47:11 PM)
[devils_child] Wednesday, January 14, 2009 6:56:24 AM 
Are Priest still Metal?.... First answer this.... Define Metal as a genre...
Most importantly - Does it really matter? I think not...
[Cooper Ryback] Tuesday, January 13, 2009 11:47:11 PM 

Homophobe? Iron Maiden not metal?  Lets get the record straight here kid, I never said any of that, ok. You really know how to read things in don't you.  Like I said before, I have a mind of my own and form my opinions without watching some tv show or youtube. My advice to you would be to stick with the orchestra type music thing that you like to go on and on and on about so much. That type of music seems to suit you best. lol 

"Iron Maiden songs done on piano on youtube" Sad.

   [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Bazooka Joe from Tuesday, January 13, 2009 10:59:33 AM)
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[Cooper Ryback] Tuesday, January 13, 2009 10:17:13 PM 

And look what happened to Rush. Not metal.


  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by METALMANJP from Tuesday, January 13, 2009 11:16:50 AM)
[K2M] Tuesday, January 13, 2009 11:46:14 AM 
Yes. Joe.   Accurate, complete, Intelligent.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Bazooka Joe from Tuesday, January 13, 2009 10:59:33 AM)
[METALMANJP] Tuesday, January 13, 2009 11:16:50 AM 

By joe I think you got it.

Look how Maiden incorporates the classical in Phantom of the opera. Also Triumph's   midsummer's daydream and Rush La villa Strangato.  I think ? I'm not actually a muscian ,but it sounds classical.

[Bazookajoe_666] Tuesday, January 13, 2009 10:59:33 AM 
Really? Wow I didn't know that haha. There is a reason Ripper is not considered one of the top 4 metal singers, and Rob. But if he likes Tim over Rob, fair enough, but to say Ripper is a better singer, that's just retarded haha.

But again, he's pretty ignorant to facts of things and how things are. Probably not even aware that there is a difference between Singers and Vocalists. 

Singers:
Rob Halford
Bruce Dickinson
Goeff Tate
Ronnie James Dio can also sing when he chooses.

Vocalists:
Ripper
James Hetfield
Tom Araya
Axl Rose for the most part. He ain't much of a singer.

Also for Numero Uno on the arguement of metal and classical/orchestra whatever arguement:

Look up some Iron Maiden songs done on Piano on youtube. You might be surprised how "classical" they are. And if you actually argue that Maiden aren't a metal band, I'm gonna have to assume you have something wrong with you.
This is the arguement I've been saying. METAL HAS CLASSICAL elements that work amazingly well with orchestras and whatnot. NOT all of it is or can, but for the most part, most of it does work well. Whether you want to admit it or not. But then again I wouldn't expect you to know that really because all you listen to is screaming heavy metal 24/7. Open your mind man, I don't want to argue with you over what you think isn't a fact, but actually is.

Back to Maiden songs on Piano. If you put an orchestra behind that, it'd sound amazing and exactly like those old composers hundreds of years ago, EXACTLY. Listen to Sanitarium done on the piano (the not thrash parts), it sounds like it was written for piano. 

Now bands like Slayer and what not don't work well, because that would sound like shit on a piano. 

Look at all the bands that have used orchestras in there music and it turned out great.

Priest.
Metallica.
Maiden.
Scorpions.
Nightwish.
etc.

About the Metal: A Headbanger's Journey, because I know your too ignorant to even read my post:

I didn't form any of my opinions or even pretty much learned anything from the movie that I don't already know. It's just a very well done documentry on metal, and most of it's genres in general. Have you seen it? If you did, you'll know the thing I'm talking about at the first of it when he explains the connection to classical music. 

And like I said IN MY OTHER POST. I didn't learn that from the DVD, I've been saying that for years because I realized the connection by myself, because I have an open mind to ALL types of music. Not saying that's better, it just helps a lot forming opinions and respecting music.

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Tuesday, January 13, 2009 10:40:32 AM)
[Vaillant 3.0] Tuesday, January 13, 2009 10:40:32 AM 
"Fuck buddy, I bet your even a homophobe haha."

Maybe that explains his preference of Ripper over Rob.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Bazooka Joe from Tuesday, January 13, 2009 10:37:48 AM)
[Bazookajoe_666] Tuesday, January 13, 2009 10:37:48 AM 
Oh for fuck's sake buddy, it's not hard to tell your an ignorant shit that really NEEDS top open his mind. 

READ MY POST, it's not hard to tell you haven't dont that either. I don't need a goddamn film to tell me what is and isn't. I form my own opinions from what i see and hear. How fucking old are you buddy? You sure as hell don't come off as an adult, at all.

If you seriously think ONE genre of music is good for you, fair enough, but it's a FACT your missing out on an awful lot of good music. Even try different SUB-genres if really feel like you can't branch out and open your mind. Fuck buddy, I bet your even a homophobe haha.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Numero Uno from Monday, January 12, 2009 1:22:55 PM)
[Cooper Ryback] Monday, January 12, 2009 1:22:55 PM 
Hey I don't have to go watch some TV show to tell if somethig is metal or not. I listen to the music and make my own decision. Are you capable of doing that? You don't seem to be.

Screaming metal 24/7 is good for me.
Edited at: Monday, January 12, 2009 1:31:30 PM
[Bazookajoe_666] Monday, January 12, 2009 7:18:49 AM 
Well if you actually READ my post, you wouldn't have even said that buddy, learn to read before you try top argue... seriously man. How far did you get into my post? Like the first sentence?....... 

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Numero Uno from Friday, January 09, 2009 9:32:28 AM)
[Bazookajoe_666] Monday, January 12, 2009 7:17:46 AM 
And you need to open your mind to something other then screaming heavy metal 24/7.
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[Cooper Ryback] Sunday, January 11, 2009 4:06:03 PM 
Well they better start thinking about changing their sound back because Nostradamus is pretty boring. Too nuch slow stuff. Not enough pure metal.
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[MetalBark666] Saturday, January 10, 2009 2:13:33 PM 

I think that priest are still heavy metal. Nostradamus is a heavy metal opera as said and i think that its pretty cool, not as the older priest tough but they had to change their sound a little because doing the same music all the time gets boring. my opinion about this

[Head banger] Saturday, January 10, 2009 11:47:47 AM 
see also metalica S&M.  look at all the instrumental recordings of metalica stuff.
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[ron h] Friday, January 09, 2009 1:24:50 PM 
Couldn't agree with you more Bazooka Joe!!!  I've seen the show you're referring to a number of times.  Really though, the similarities between Classical and Metal have been understood and documented numerous times over the years.  I think if Mozart, Bethoven or Pachabel had in their day what we have, then Metal would have been around for centuries (though Pachabel is more modern than the others)!!!  Some of that music is just as intense and heartpounding as any music ever created.

In Numero Unos' defense, Orchestrational music isn't metal, I agree with that.  But I don't think Bazooka Joe disagrees on that either, just that there are a lot of similarities, and there are.

This is just my opinion, but if I had lived in that era I would be front row center every time Bethoven came to town!!  Fortunately, I don't have to make that choice now.

If Metal and Rap can meld, why can't Metal and Classical music?

If one doesn't like it, fine, but I think Nostradamus is brilliant amalgamation of the two and I really like it!!


  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Bazooka Joe from Friday, January 09, 2009 8:59:16 AM)
[K2M] Friday, January 09, 2009 12:49:47 PM 
Yes. unless there is a  new name for it.
[Deep Freeze] Friday, January 09, 2009 10:41:35 AM 
Dude! Conway freakin' ROCKS!!!!
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Numero Uno from Friday, January 09, 2009 9:32:28 AM)
[Cooper Ryback] Friday, January 09, 2009 9:32:28 AM 
"Go watch Metal: A Headbanger's Journey."

Is that where you get all your metal information? I guess if "he" said that ConwayTwitty was a metal vocalist you would believe that too. HAHAHA!!!!!

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Bazooka Joe from Friday, January 09, 2009 8:59:16 AM)
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[Bazookajoe_666] Friday, January 09, 2009 8:59:16 AM 
Umm are you a fuckin idiot? 

Seriously, listen to metal, then listen to orchestra music. GOOD orchestra music. Everything they do is so similar it's ridiculous.

Go watch Metal: A Headbanger's Journey.

He explains it perfectly at the very first of the damn movie. And no, I did not get that from that movie, I've been saying that for years now.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Numero Uno from Thursday, January 08, 2009 3:16:59 PM)
[Phantom A6] Friday, January 09, 2009 4:21:01 AM 

Hmm... Orchestra music?

Tell me where on Nostradamus you can hear any orchestra instruments or any orchestra arrangements.

Go into a musical, opera or other classical performances and you know the difference.


  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Numero Uno from Thursday, January 08, 2009 3:16:59 PM)
[Cooper Ryback] Thursday, January 08, 2009 3:16:59 PM 
"we just have distortion nowadays"

Nope, orchestra music is not metal.  

 [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Bazooka Joe from Tuesday, January 06, 2009 12:36:06 PM)
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[kitty12] Wednesday, January 07, 2009 9:00:13 PM 
Of course they are. Always have been always will be.
[adrianaec_88] Wednesday, January 07, 2009 5:52:55 PM 
[adrianaec_88] Wednesday, January 07, 2009 5:46:05 PM 
Is this thread still stupid? YES
[ron h] Wednesday, January 07, 2009 3:19:22 PM 
Priest are as Metal now as they have ever been.  I believe Priest has the 'widest umbrella' of Metal of any Metal band ever.  There are so many different forms of Metal, but if Priest records it rest assure it's Metal!!!
[brewcrew1969] Wednesday, January 07, 2009 3:09:51 PM 

Priest is still metal. Just once in awhile u have to change it up. U still have the heavy metal vibe in slow songs. They know what they r doing obviously. They will never change. I was realy impressed on thier new album. Good writing over all. Just keep the faith guys and girls. Like always, You Got Another Thing Coming.

[Bazookajoe_666] Tuesday, January 06, 2009 12:38:46 PM 
Also just wanted to add...

If anything Priest are back to the style of metal they had in the 70'. Dramatic heavy music. If you notice there aren't exactly a tone of fast songs on Sad Wings of Destiny. With Nostradamus, they've got all the types of songs that are on there, plus some more different styles, and this time around is just has a big orchestral sound.
[Bazookajoe_666] Tuesday, January 06, 2009 12:36:06 PM 
What's your point though? Are you saying that the slower songs aren't metal? Or slow metal songs in general aren't metal? 

You've heard of Sabbath right?...

Obviously you've never made the connection with Heavy Metal and Orchestra music either, so please try to haha. Those fuckers back then were as metal as the guys today, we just have distortion nowadays.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Numero Uno from Monday, December 29, 2008 2:29:24 PM)
[chopper] Tuesday, January 06, 2009 7:40:10 AM 
numero uno dumb question!!!
[Russl] Saturday, January 03, 2009 1:44:04 PM 
does a bear  %$#& in the woods ?
[Phantom A6] Saturday, January 03, 2009 1:35:33 PM 

Are Priest still metal?
Of course they are!

[croton] Saturday, January 03, 2009 4:57:29 AM 
till Death do us part PRIEST will ALWAYS be HEAVY METAL . wasnt Painkiller heavy enuff for you???????????????. Even Maiden have used synths in their tracks. Geez louise
[Udo Sapper] Friday, January 02, 2009 8:44:41 PM 
[Justin Kenny] Friday, January 02, 2009 5:21:56 AM 
Let's put it this way, people.....metal (as a genre) has evolved and shown more dimension-growth than every other genre  put together.      Case in point....are ANY newer country artists doing anything differently than country artists from 50 years ago?     What about R&B?      Sure, some artists may infuse other genre influences into the music they predominantly make or create....but when you think about the very diversity bands like Judas Priest, Queensryche, hell...even Black Sabbath had a penchant for creating and generating different moods and melodies in the songs they wrote!    

Any musical artist HAS to create music that pleases THEM first before they can feel confident about releasing their work to the public.     Priest have done this over and over again....while they know their fans have varied opinions and feelings about what they've released,  this is par for the course, and as artists, they understand this.     I'm sure there are varied opinions among art critics when it comes to reviewing works by Cezanne, Van Gogh, et, al....if everybody loved what those artists made, they'd have had no reason to keep working.      Criticism (even the blunt kind) helps to shape and drive artists to keep creating, even for as much as they do it for themselves first.

Metal is more than a sound, tempo, or how loud a band can play.    As progenitors of heavy metal music, Judas Priest have amply shown the world many times over just how diverse and magnanimous the genre can be and to GREAT affect.    Hence....HELL yes.....Priest are as metal today as they were 30+ years ago.
[~ MG_Metalgoddess~] Wednesday, December 31, 2008 5:14:17 PM 
[scorpion01] Tuesday, December 30, 2008 10:32:01 PM 
HALFORD HAS ALWAYS SAID METAL IS AN ATTITUDE. PRIEST IS AND ALWAYS WILL BE METAL. THEY JUST KEEP EXPANDING ITS BOUNDRIES.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by paperflowers from Tuesday, December 30, 2008 8:39:07 PM)
[paperflowers] Tuesday, December 30, 2008 8:39:07 PM 

Don't look at me - I'm still trying to figure out what metal is. I grew up banging on the wall because my brother was playing his thrash CDs too loud again. It wasn't until I started hearing classic metal that I realized there was more to it than growl boom boom growl boom boom bang.

[Jeanine] Tuesday, December 30, 2008 7:46:55 PM 
Nostradamus is a masterpiece of Metal.  It is intelligent, melodic, heavy, beautiful, spine tingling, emotionally charged.....need I go on? 
[SkyRideR] Tuesday, December 30, 2008 4:49:42 PM 
to us diehard fans of priest they've always been on top...
[Cooper Ryback] Tuesday, December 30, 2008 12:33:43 PM 
Have they changed their musical direction away from classic metal?
Or will the next cd be metal and put them back on top.
Edited at: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 12:36:59 PM
[blood red skies/dreamer [Banned]] Tuesday, December 30, 2008 12:27:22 PM 
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[Bez] Tuesday, December 30, 2008 12:19:02 PM 
Simple answer...er...HELL YEAH...they are the God Fathers of Metal....and always will be !!!
[SkyRideR] Tuesday, December 30, 2008 12:15:12 PM 
what???
metal???
heavy metal, man...
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[screaming_4_priest] Tuesday, December 30, 2008 3:30:25 AM 
O come on thats just a silly question.

Nostradamus may have alot of slow ones, but  it also has songs that will rip your face off.

& im gunna say you probley havent seen priest on this tour, because if you watched them perform Eat Me Alive, Disstant Aggressor, Sinner ect you would not have made this silly little thread.
[jimmyjames] Tuesday, December 30, 2008 12:35:37 AM 

Lyrically yes, musically it's not that far removed. They've thrown in some keyboards and some operatic style vocals on some of the tracks but overall it's still metal. What else would you call it? Same sort of stuff the likes of Dream Theater and Manowar have been doing for years. It's not their best album by a long stretch but it's definately metal.


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