anything conspiracy theory to just plain Hmmmm....
[Head banger] Saturday, January 30, 2010 11:11:18 AM
the style and such was different, but without hiring a singer, the band would have died. Priest could not have been dead for 10+ years and mounted any kind of comeback. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Saturday, January 30, 2010 11:03:04 AM)
Deep Freeze wrote:
Well said, indeed...HOWEVER, I beg to differ. Allow me;
While I do understand that the Band wanted to continue, play, compose, make a living, etc.....I do not agree that the music was "true" or "classic" Priest. Now, I don't blame Owens for that. I mean, as you said, he was just an employee. A singer-for-hire, if you will (as far as WE know). My problem lies with the musical direction. As I have said before, I do not think it was anything like the classic, melodic Priest which we all so know and love.
Yes, the sound was "heavy". In fact, it was far TOO heavy for me. Much more like a contemporary Metal sound than an "old school" sound. As for seeing them live, my wife (at the time) worked security for a show here at the Hard Rock in Vegas and she said that it was like "watching a Priest Cover Band." It did not have the same look, feel or sound of Priest.
I do not like Jugulator or Demolition. I have a few of the songs (through the Metalogy set) and I do not care for them at all. I have heard all the others and I feel the same way. Are they well done? Sure. Are they "heavy"? Absolutely. Are they true Priest? I do not think so. They lack the classic melody that I look for in a Priest song. I have nothing against Owens. He is a great vocalist and has done well for himself since. I do not "criticize" him, as he was just singing. I was not there when he was hired, nor was I involved with the Band on an intimate level so I have NO idea what they said to him or made him do. I believe all of that is conjecture.
When I compare AoR to Demolition or Jugulator, there is no comparison..for me. None. There is no comparison to ANY Priest album and those two. They were a completely different band, as far as I am concerned and AoR proves my point. All it took was bringing Rob back to find what was missing. How that was done is not important to me. Only that it happened.
Budred wrote:
Ripper bashing makes me go hmmmm...
Do Priest fans not realize that there was an 8 year gap between albums. They were going nowhere.
Then (THEY) discovered Ripper. Rob wasn't coming back and for us and them they had to do something.
Some seem to think Ripper tried too hard to copy Rob but Priest actually dictated that. They chose his wardrobe,
his singing style and so on. Ripper was an employee of Priest. As far as the musical direction Priest has
always evolved their sound so as not to sound the same each time out. In my mind the only problem with Jugulator
was the production more so than the music. I think they corrected that with Demolition. To me there are some
very heavy songs on that record. Lastly if anyone saw Priest on the Demolition tour(I did 4 times) they were as tight and great
sounding as ever. Ripper kept the Priest going. Praise him don't criticize him. Just my opinion, only matters to me.
PEACE!
[Deep Freeze] Saturday, January 30, 2010 11:03:04 AM
Well said, indeed...HOWEVER, I beg to differ. Allow me;
While I do understand that the Band wanted to continue, play, compose, make a living, etc.....I do not agree that the music was "true" or "classic" Priest. Now, I don't blame Owens for that. I mean, as you said, he was just an employee. A singer-for-hire, if you will (as far as WE know). My problem lies with the musical direction. As I have said before, I do not think it was anything like the classic, melodic Priest which we all so know and love.
Yes, the sound was "heavy". In fact, it was far TOO heavy for me. Much more like a contemporary Metal sound than an "old school" sound. As for seeing them live, my wife (at the time) worked security for a show here at the Hard Rock in Vegas and she said that it was like "watching a Priest Cover Band." It did not have the same look, feel or sound of Priest.
I do not like Jugulator or Demolition. I have a few of the songs (through the Metalogy set) and I do not care for them at all. I have heard all the others and I feel the same way. Are they well done? Sure. Are they "heavy"? Absolutely. Are they true Priest? I do not think so. They lack the classic melody that I look for in a Priest song. I have nothing against Owens. He is a great vocalist and has done well for himself since. I do not "criticize" him, as he was just singing. I was not there when he was hired, nor was I involved with the Band on an intimate level so I have NO idea what they said to him or made him do. I believe all of that is conjecture.
When I compare AoR to Demolition or Jugulator, there is no comparison..for me. None. There is no comparison to ANY Priest album and those two. They were a completely different band, as far as I am concerned and AoR proves my point. All it took was bringing Rob back to find what was missing. How that was done is not important to me. Only that it happened. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Budred from Saturday, January 30, 2010 9:31:57 AM)
Budred wrote:
Ripper bashing makes me go hmmmm...
Do Priest fans not realize that there was an 8 year gap between albums. They were going nowhere.
Then (THEY) discovered Ripper. Rob wasn't coming back and for us and them they had to do something.
Some seem to think Ripper tried too hard to copy Rob but Priest actually dictated that. They chose his wardrobe,
his singing style and so on. Ripper was an employee of Priest. As far as the musical direction Priest has
always evolved their sound so as not to sound the same each time out. In my mind the only problem with Jugulator
was the production more so than the music. I think they corrected that with Demolition. To me there are some
very heavy songs on that record. Lastly if anyone saw Priest on the Demolition tour(I did 4 times) they were as tight and great
sounding as ever. Ripper kept the Priest going. Praise him don't criticize him. Just my opinion, only matters to me.
PEACE!
[guidogodoy] Saturday, January 30, 2010 10:54:59 AM
Didn't follow 'em. Don't know. All I remember is the first post-Rob album was on a sample station at the local record store (anyone remember those?). I was horrified. Boycotted 'em for 8 years out of respect for the dead.
Ripper bashing makes me go hmmmm...
Do Priest fans not realize that there was an 8 year gap between albums. They were going nowhere.
Then (THEY) discovered Ripper. Rob wasn't coming back and for us and them they had to do something.
Some seem to think Ripper tried too hard to copy Rob but Priest actually dictated that. They chose his wardrobe,
his singing style and so on. Ripper was an employee of Priest. As far as the musical direction Priest has
always evolved their sound so as not to sound the same each time out. In my mind the only problem with Jugulator
was the production more so than the music. I think they corrected that with Demolition. To me there are some
very heavy songs on that record. Lastly if anyone saw Priest on the Demolition tour(I did 4 times) they were as tight and great
sounding as ever. Ripper kept the Priest going. Praise him don't criticize him. Just my opinion, only matters to me.
PEACE!
[Head banger] Saturday, January 30, 2010 10:24:40 AM
yeah, and without him do you think they would have managed to reunite and put out AOR? no chance! well said [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Budred from Saturday, January 30, 2010 9:31:57 AM)
Budred wrote:
Ripper bashing makes me go hmmmm...
Do Priest fans not realize that there was an 8 year gap between albums. They were going nowhere.
Then (THEY) discovered Ripper. Rob wasn't coming back and for us and them they had to do something.
Some seem to think Ripper tried too hard to copy Rob but Priest actually dictated that. They chose his wardrobe,
his singing style and so on. Ripper was an employee of Priest. As far as the musical direction Priest has
always evolved their sound so as not to sound the same each time out. In my mind the only problem with Jugulator
was the production more so than the music. I think they corrected that with Demolition. To me there are some
very heavy songs on that record. Lastly if anyone saw Priest on the Demolition tour(I did 4 times) they were as tight and great
sounding as ever. Ripper kept the Priest going. Praise him don't criticize him. Just my opinion, only matters to me.
PEACE!
[Budred] Saturday, January 30, 2010 9:31:57 AM
Ripper bashing makes me go hmmmm...
Do Priest fans not realize that there was an 8 year gap between albums. They were going nowhere.
Then (THEY) discovered Ripper. Rob wasn't coming back and for us and them they had to do something.
Some seem to think Ripper tried too hard to copy Rob but Priest actually dictated that. They chose his wardrobe,
his singing style and so on. Ripper was an employee of Priest. As far as the musical direction Priest has
always evolved their sound so as not to sound the same each time out. In my mind the only problem with Jugulator
was the production more so than the music. I think they corrected that with Demolition. To me there are some
very heavy songs on that record. Lastly if anyone saw Priest on the Demolition tour(I did 4 times) they were as tight and great
sounding as ever. Ripper kept the Priest going. Praise him don't criticize him. Just my opinion, only matters to me.
PEACE!
[acolyte55] Friday, January 29, 2010 11:11:50 PM
its all in the perception , rerecently the price of recycling aluminium went up about .5 cents a can , this had beer companys scrambling to introduce new price measures to keep there beers at 11.99a six pack because if you cant and you reach 12.00 and your competition managed to keep theirs to 11.99 you will lose big time sales because it is perceived to be way cheaper
[Vaillant 3.0] Friday, January 29, 2010 10:45:00 PM
Why is it that the prices of most store items end with .99 cents? For example, I went to the store earlier today to buy some milk. It cost $1.99. Same thing with the box of pancake flour that I bought earlier this week. It cost $2.99. Why not round the price to two or three dollars? You might as well, right? It's not like the extra tax is one cent...
[hellrider 31038] Friday, January 29, 2010 8:27:08 PM
thanks man yeah just one of those things that made me go HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM.computer seems to be working faster now anyways. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Friday, January 29, 2010 8:19:31 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Well, feel free to PM details if you like but a Winbox (Windows) as I assume you run is easy to crack. I still stand by my original statement that you were NOT hacked by anyone. Sharing a public folder without intent is pretty common but what usually turns out to be the case is that the person to whom you gave "permission" never even knew it.
Nothing to sweat over, I say again.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
yeah but the thing that gets me is how did the person get permission for all those files.i sure as hell never gave it .
guidogodoy wrote:
Nothing to do with this website, HR, unless you gave your email addy to a REALLY knowledgeable user. Doubtful that many could do it even if you did.
I wouldn't sweat it. I get a thousand calls a week about hackers, malware, etc. and none turn out to be real. I am speaking of DECADES here.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
Files
can view the files in your FavoriteThingsShare folder.
can view the files in your Shared favorites folder.
can view the files in your Public folder
YEAH my computer has been working kind of screwy for a while now and i was just looking around checking out my homepage and links on email pressed the contacts link and noticed this apparently i gave permission for someone( i deleated the email address as shown above) to view all this.i sure as hell never did.i have since deleated the contact.Hmmmmmmmm.wtf
[guidogodoy] Friday, January 29, 2010 8:19:31 PM
Well, feel free to PM details if you like but a Winbox (Windows) as I assume you run is easy to crack. I still stand by my original statement that you were NOT hacked by anyone. Sharing a public folder without intent is pretty common but what usually turns out to be the case is that the person to whom you gave "permission" never even knew it.
Nothing to sweat over, I say again. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by hellrider 31038 from Friday, January 29, 2010 8:12:32 PM)
hellrider 31038 wrote:
yeah but the thing that gets me is how did the person get permission for all those files.i sure as hell never gave it .
guidogodoy wrote:
Nothing to do with this website, HR, unless you gave your email addy to a REALLY knowledgeable user. Doubtful that many could do it even if you did.
I wouldn't sweat it. I get a thousand calls a week about hackers, malware, etc. and none turn out to be real. I am speaking of DECADES here.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
Files
can view the files in your FavoriteThingsShare folder.
can view the files in your Shared favorites folder.
can view the files in your Public folder
YEAH my computer has been working kind of screwy for a while now and i was just looking around checking out my homepage and links on email pressed the contacts link and noticed this apparently i gave permission for someone( i deleated the email address as shown above) to view all this.i sure as hell never did.i have since deleated the contact.Hmmmmmmmm.wtf
[hellrider 31038] Friday, January 29, 2010 8:12:32 PM
yeah but the thing that gets me is how did the person get permission for all those files.i sure as hell never gave it . [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Friday, January 29, 2010 8:05:28 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Nothing to do with this website, HR, unless you gave your email addy to a REALLY knowledgeable user. Doubtful that many could do it even if you did.
I wouldn't sweat it. I get a thousand calls a week about hackers, malware, etc. and none turn out to be real. I am speaking of DECADES here.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
Files
can view the files in your FavoriteThingsShare folder.
can view the files in your Shared favorites folder.
can view the files in your Public folder
YEAH my computer has been working kind of screwy for a while now and i was just looking around checking out my homepage and links on email pressed the contacts link and noticed this apparently i gave permission for someone( i deleated the email address as shown above) to view all this.i sure as hell never did.i have since deleated the contact.Hmmmmmmmm.wtf
[guidogodoy] Friday, January 29, 2010 8:05:28 PM
Nothing to do with this website, HR, unless you gave your email addy to a REALLY knowledgeable user. Doubtful that many could do it even if you did.
I wouldn't sweat it. I get a thousand calls a week about hackers, malware, etc. and none turn out to be real. I am speaking of DECADES here. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by hellrider 31038 from Friday, January 29, 2010 7:56:31 PM)
hellrider 31038 wrote:
Files
can view the files in your FavoriteThingsShare folder.
can view the files in your Shared favorites folder.
can view the files in your Public folder
YEAH my computer has been working kind of screwy for a while now and i was just looking around checking out my homepage and links on email pressed the contacts link and noticed this apparently i gave permission for someone( i deleated the email address as shown above) to view all this.i sure as hell never did.i have since deleated the contact.Hmmmmmmmm.wtf
[hellrider 31038] Friday, January 29, 2010 7:56:31 PM
Files
can view the files in your FavoriteThingsShare folder.
can view the files in your Shared favorites folder.
can view the files in your Public folder
YEAH my computer has been working kind of screwy for a while now and i was just looking around checking out my homepage and links on email pressed the contacts link and noticed this apparently i gave permission for someone( i deleated the email address as shown above) to view all this.i sure as hell never did.i have since deleated the contact.Hmmmmmmmm.wtf
[Deep Freeze] Friday, January 22, 2010 1:53:23 PM
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yes, I was although I do not believe alcohol would make that movie better. Sadler was GREAT, you're right! Had me cracking up everytime he spoke! (**Umm.. Dey Melvined me...*) HAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Friday, January 22, 2010 12:55:47 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
Weren't you a heavy drinker back in the day? That could be the reason. William Sadler was awesome as Death the in the Bogus Journey though.
Deep Freeze wrote:
Hmmm... I'm watching "Bill and Ted" on HBO right now. I really cannot figure out why, at some point, I thought this was funny...?
[jimmyjames] Friday, January 22, 2010 12:55:47 PM
Weren't you a heavy drinker back in the day? That could be the reason. William Sadler was awesome as Death the in the Bogus Journey though. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Friday, January 22, 2010 10:44:44 AM)
Deep Freeze wrote:
Hmmm... I'm watching "Bill and Ted" on HBO right now. I really cannot figure out why, at some point, I thought this was funny...?
[Deep Freeze] Friday, January 22, 2010 10:44:44 AM
Hmmm... I'm watching "Bill and Ted" on HBO right now. I really cannot figure out why, at some point, I thought this was funny...?
[Budred] Wednesday, January 20, 2010 9:13:26 AM
My Emu ate my chicken so now I gotta eat my Emu. Man I wish I still had my donkey. }: o
[guidogodoy] Tuesday, January 19, 2010 1:34:14 PM
Pat Robertson of the 700 Club. I don't know why I am still amazed at his idiocy, Talk about someone who flip-flops (oh yes, always in Jebus' name!). Haiti, sure, disaster brought on by the Devil. Now he is pontificating about how much they are doing for them.
[hellrider 31038] Friday, January 15, 2010 8:07:01 PM
HOW MANY MONSTER TRACKS (METAL MASTERPIECES) ON THE NEXT PRIEST ALBUM (METAL MONSTER)
[nancy101] Friday, January 15, 2010 2:19:13 PM
You're welcome Sheba_69 . :)
[Sheba_69] Friday, January 15, 2010 12:36:47 PM
Thank you nancy101,Hellrider31038,Becks,Ron H and JoeDraper for all your comments. That was kind of you. and thank you Joedraper for the lovely picture. Yes,she is better where she is now.God bless you all .
