Oh, I agree that those that like Nostra are in NO WAY trying to convince those that do. See? There is a difference beween us and fanboy fake Brian: when we think something sucks, we say it. It isn't blindly following the blind. Were that true, someone would have convinced me that Lochness was a decent sond LOOOONG ago. I'll even admit to the cheesy topic of Nostra. However, I am into classical music as well as some of you. The phrasings ARE classical in nature. I have heard many an interview where the guys wanted to do this sort of album and I am happy that they have come to a point in their career where it has come to fruition. Just one man's opinion, nothing more.
Say. J.D. (as I know YOU'LL answer as opposed to fanboy Brian), what are your four songs or so off Nostra? I think you might have posted them before but I forget. Please remind me. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Sunday, July 11, 2010 12:20:28 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
With Nostradamus,I don't think that those of us who dislike it are trying to get other people to dislike it. But rather argue that the album in it's entirety is not "Judas Priest's signature sound". Nostradamus,Turbo and Demolition are all the same way,they don't harness the signature sound all the way through and are the only 3 records by the band that astray too far from the bands true sound. Jugulator and Ram It Down are very weak-like and went into left field but at least they didn't go out of the ballpark.
I don't think Ram It Down is a great Priest album,but with 10 songs on it I can handle 5 of them(Ram It Down, Heavy Metal, Come And Get It, Hard As Iron, Blood Red Skies)with the other 5 songs blah,but at least its half the album ....with Nostradamus there are 22 or so tracks and I can only handle 4 of them.
But thats irrelevant,the main point here is that the only thing we can agree on is that the Nostradamus album is the most different "away from Judas Priest" sounding album they have ever done.I just think it was too different sounding to be called a "Judas Priest" album.
Its like the band Emperor with the albums Anthems To The Welkin At Dusk and Equilibrium,they are not "Emperor's signature sound" and too strange to be called an Emperor albums yet to me they are both excellent albums. I would agree that those 2 albums shouldn't of been called "Emperor" and should of changed the band's name but I still like those records.
This is the same senario with Nostradamus,if I did like the Nostradamus album I would still not consider it "Judas Priest".
(Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Sunday, July 11, 2010 10:42:25 AM)
Well, if "people are just wankng over this album because it is Priest," why wouldn't that hold true for ALL Priest albums? Songs too for that matter? Turbo was a Priest album last time I checked and I don't think I even own it. LP or cassette if at all. RID on both just because it is autographed. Nope, the theory doesn't hold water.
Sorry that you don't like Nostra. I do. Part because it is Priest? Certainly could be. I am intrigued by it complexity, sophistication and what marks the musical culmination of a band I have adored all my life.
I guess you ran as fast as possible to get it over as fast as possible. I can't think what's worse, running 8 miles or listening to Nostraboruesus! I agree that the length of a song does not back a good record. It's actually what's in it. Death is 7.34.minutes. 7.34 minutes of crap. The the whole of Nostraborues is over 70 minutes. How the hell they only managed make around 15 minutes of it worth listening to is beyond belief. People are only wanking over this because it's A Priest album. If any other band had done it everyone would say it was complete crap. For the most part Nostra is a fat, lazy, overblown, turgid and tedious. I can't believe how a group who have given us so many great albums could have the audacity to foist this on the public. Of course some of you love it and that's fine. I respect their opinions. But I just can't get into Nostra and it's not for want of trying.
I wholeheartedly disagree. Nostra shows whats it takes to make an epic HM album. It is NOT that Maiden crap, 10 minute songs do not make for a good record. Ran 8 miles to Nosrta last night. Loved every second of it.
Just one man's opinion but I stated it before. Heaven forbid that this be their last album but I would be a happy camper were it so. It is nothing short of maasterpiece.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Nostradamus is anything but "Judas Priest" and is musically not a "heavy metal" album. Dio's "Magica" is a concept album that is a "heavy metal" album that is done the traditional way done right with so many instruments,Judas Priest should of took a class with Dio as the instructor teaching them how to do such an album. Magica is light years ahead of it's time and of course ahead of Nostradamus by far. This is the best concept album of all time. Hail Dio!
(Quoting Message by jackylone from Saturday, July 10, 2010 8:32:33 AM)
Don't let anyone steer you away from listening to Nostradamus. It is a great album about a historical figure....everyone wants Painkiller, can't do the same thing over and over, it would all sound the same! NOSTRADAMUS=MASTERPIECE Edited at: Saturday, July 10, 2010 8:33:09 AM