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Just wondered how many of the global family here is eco-friendly & how...


[adrianaec_88] Monday, January 26, 2009 9:29:19 PM 
the mistery has been revealed.. this is how the skull in the beard was discovered
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[guidogodoy] Monday, January 26, 2009 9:18:15 PM 
You are a bit off there, DF. "Downtown" Detroit is absolutely beautiful. Great neighborhoods. Mostly upscale and costs a MINT the closer you get to the Detroit River. Perfectly safe. TRUE problems actually happen in "no man's land" in the outskirts. THOSE folks couldn't get Downtown if they tried. They were really cast into poverty once the expressways were built. Made once thriving neighborhoods into places of abject poverty because they basically ran the roads from the sprawling mansions of the suburbs (where the rich set up shop)  to the factories and downtown without making offramps. The poor factory workers were forced to live all around the factories as there is only one main road / bus route. THOSE are the places you don't want to go unless you know the area / someone.

Still, all pale in comparison to a city like Rio de Janeiro. Largest slums in the world there. You have not seen "poor" or "violent" until you have been there. Go rent "Cidade de Deus" (City of God) or "Tropa de elite" (Elite squad) to get the SLIGHTEST idea.

As you say, though, common sense in any major city adds to the "safety" level no matter the country.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Monday, January 26, 2009 4:17:00 PM)
[devils_child] Monday, January 26, 2009 7:19:37 PM 

That's my act of Green.... it doesn't hurt mother earth maaaan..... haahaha
[devils_child] Monday, January 26, 2009 7:11:47 PM 

Hey I'm Aussie and i know the only robotic cop is in Detroit.... ..

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[ron h] Monday, January 26, 2009 6:55:59 PM 
Well, I don't know how much of what I do is 'green' or 'convieniant', but I do recycle cans as they take up too much space in the trash can, hence more frquent trips to the alley...I carpool to and from work and chip in a few bucks for gas, much less expensive and I don't have to be responsible for anything other than walking out the front door...and because my sis-in-law only lives a few blocks away, we usually go to the grocery store (or whever) I think what I do is to benefit me, but it does help out a little as well..., we have some of the cleanest, best tasting water in the world, straight out of Lake Michigan!!!  Has anyone ever tried well water??  ugh...
[hellrider 31038] Monday, January 26, 2009 4:52:17 PM 
i dont drive i am a hard core cyclist
Edited at: Monday, January 26, 2009 4:52:57 PM
[_strat_] Monday, January 26, 2009 4:27:32 PM 
Aha... So if I happen to drop by in LA, I wont see any robotic cops?
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[Deep Freeze] Monday, January 26, 2009 4:17:00 PM 
HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Darth, if you take shame in my lack of interest in recycling there is not much more I can say. I have a feeling you will get over it. I am!  (By the way, I do not believe in "god", either!) HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Strat, yes! Here we pay to go to school unless we get a scholarship. I did not. I was very fortunate to have well-to-do family. That is they way it is here.  As for the dangers of California, it is no different than any other large city. I think it gets an over abundance of exposure because of Hollywood and whatnot but it is no big deal. Nothing like downtown Philly or Detroit!! HA!!!!!!!!!! Ask Darth or guido! I lived south of LA in the Orange county area (yes, the same as that silly TV show!). It was more "upscale" than many places. In fact, there were maybe five blacks in my entire high school! (not that blacks are not upscale! Save that!)  Anyway, we had a very nice home and all the normal facts of life. No drugs. No dad beating mom. No going without dinner.  In fact, my dad is retired career law enforcement (Sheriff dept). VERY conservative upbringing , mine!....

Oh, and we did NOT recycle then either! HAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
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[_strat_] Monday, January 26, 2009 3:47:06 PM 
Paid to go to the university?!?!? Holy shit... You guys really need Obama...

Anyway, Arnieland seems nice (on google earth, at least)... Just wondering, is it really all that dangerous there? I mean, not like in the movies, but I heard that there are some areas there, where you dont go, if you want to live.
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  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by ladiesman from Monday, January 26, 2009 12:49:51 PM)
[Return_of_Darth_Painkiller_0870] Monday, January 26, 2009 3:03:43 PM 
DF, I am ashamed that you do not do your part for the environment and recycle.   Personally, I recycle...hell, everyone I know recycles!  How could you NOT recycle?  That makes no sense man!

My parents bought me my first car, and the next two after that (2 wrecks and the other one just died).  Mind you, I was 17 when I got my first car....a 1977 Chevrolet Impala "The Tank" if you will.  It had NO steering and you HAD TO HAVE both hands on the steering wheel at all times. The first new car I ever owned was my 98 Honda Civic.  265,000+ miles and not a problem.  I miss that car almost as much I miss my dog.

Taking the bus, the EL (elevated train) and the subway are necessities in big cities like Philadelphia, NYC. Young and old take them.  Show this to your stepson, Freeze!

Ok, I'm out.  Be back around 7:30pm EST or so.  Ciao!!!!!

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[Deep Freeze] Monday, January 26, 2009 1:48:24 PM 

I lived in California, near the beach. My grandmother owned a small cafe right there on the coast. It was a GREAT place. I think your father was a wise man, my friend.  My grandparents bought me the car. They paid for me to go to university as well. I was very lucky.

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[_strat_] Monday, January 26, 2009 1:44:03 PM 
LOL... Auch. And it was I who always said that they should teach sarcasm in schools.

Where did you live then? I mean, I can hardly imagine taking a bus from Nevada to the nearest coast for the weekend. Wish I could do that, tho. The curse of the Adriatic sea - little wind, and what there is is not strong enough to make waves big enough to surf on.

Oh, and looking down upon people who take buses is just damn retarded... IDK, over here they are the prefered transport for moneyless teenagers and pensioners, while others drive cars... But we dont get looked down upon, thats for sure.

Oh, and car for birthday... When I turned 18 (which meant that I could drive - not like you guys that allow 16 year old lunatics behind the steering wheel) I started hinting to my dad, that "I sure could use something of my own to get me around". The response: "Son, get a job, save some money... And buy your own goddamned car". And that was it.
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[Deep Freeze] Monday, January 26, 2009 1:34:41 PM 

HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I was also kidding about the water's safety value. Actually, I was using sarcasm and over-exaggeration in an illustrative prose...but I digress.

The "machine" we call woman?? HA!!!!!!!!!!!!! I like that, actually! Good one. With the Princess, it is quite simple; Do as you are told and no one gets hurt..HAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!

When I was a young man, we rode the bus every weekend to the beach to go surfing. During summer vacation, we were on the bus just about everyday. It was a different time then. Not so many lunatics to deal with and the bus was not a big deal. Nowadays (at least here in the US) kids look down upon those that would ride the bus. The Princess has an older son (about 20) that would rather drive a shard of glass through his neck than step on the bus. It is disgusting, really. But, I am old and I know nothing of being a "cool" kid, right?  
I received my first car as a birthday present when I turned 16. I have owned my own car ever since.

As for recycling...well, see my previous umpteen posts regarding the subject. I don't do it. That's that.


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[_strat_] Monday, January 26, 2009 1:25:17 PM 
Well, I know you have tap water. I am shocked, tho, that it isnt safe to drink. I really cant imagine drinking bottled water every day. IDK, maybe its just a habbit - beer, coke, juice, milk ect. come from bottles or cartons - but water comes from the plumming. IDK, but I wouldnt have it your way, no thanks.

Oh, and I also know that you werent kidding about the princess stuff. Young I may be, but I know how the machine we call "woman" functions.

As for public transport, the math is simple really. If I was to buy a car, I would have to spend at least 2 to 3 thousand € just for the car (used car, at least 10 years old, probably French or Italian). Plus some 500€ on registration, and a fortune on gas (which is almost twice as expensive here than at your end). On the other hand, the bus pass costs me 17€ per month. What am I going to choose? And I dont even have to drive the damn thing.

Recycling... Well, it is a good idea. But I guess were just not used to it. There is always the potential fine-if-I-get-caught-not-recycling thingy to consider. Unlikely, but possible.
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[ladiesman] Monday, January 26, 2009 12:49:51 PM 

I don't have many oportunities of spending many natural resources 'cause I'm very poor but I'm always trying to save water,I know I live in one of the most polluted cities around the world so I try to separate my garbage in organic and unorganic wastes.

[Soylentgreen4u] Monday, January 26, 2009 11:30:21 AM 
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[Vaillant 3.0] Monday, January 26, 2009 10:03:53 AM 
I ride my bike to school and ride the bus when it rains. I don't own a car either for the same reason Strat doesn't have one: too expensive to maintain one, too expensive to put in gas, and all that. My mom gives me grief because I don't own a car, and can't drive for that matter...hey, at least I'm saving money, right? I have small recycle bins where I can throw away plastic bottles and newspaper...and that's about it. I still buy bottled water, though. The tap water here tastes really bad.
[Deep Freeze] Monday, January 26, 2009 9:58:17 AM 
HA!!!!!!!!!!!! I have been described in many ways strat, but that is a new one. Accurate as well!! HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!

Yes, we have tap water. The Princess will not drink it! (And you thought I was kidding about that "princess" stuff!! HA!!) She expects bottled water in the 'fridge at all times. If there are but two or three remaining, I am sent to the store immediately. NO excuses. Quite frankly, the morons that run this city are barely capable of taking a crap on their own, much less seeing to it that my water is safe. I will go with the bottles, thank you.

I agree with the previous post about mass transit. I am not interested so long as I can afford my own car. Period. I have no problem using it when I am somewhere on vacation. It is quaint and I like to "people watch". It is actually fun. Cable cars in 'Frisco, subway in New York. Horse-drawn carriage in Toronto. But as far as my day to day life, I choose to drive. 

Recycling is not a bad idea. I just do not take the time to do it. By nature, I am rather lazy and simply do not care that much. Terribly rude, I know but as you mentioned, I am being honest. And I am serious about the people that pick through my refuse. They do a much better job than I would.
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[_strat_] Monday, January 26, 2009 9:37:50 AM 

Freeze, youre a right bastard. But at least youre an honest bastard.

Anyway... I dont know what the quality of tap water is over there, but wouldnt it be cheaper and more practical just to use tap water?

As for the recycling part, I actualy agree. Its fucking reccesion! People get fired on a daily basis! What better way to create some new jobs, than by employing a couple of them to sort out the garbage?

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