[Deep Freeze] Friday, January 08, 2010 10:35:05 AM
Ah. Very well said. I can certainly understand that. It appears that we are distinctly different in that area, which is just fine. For me, the very essence of a Priest song is the melodic value each one brings. The vocal melodies are equally well done and that adds to what has always been Priest's great attraction for me. The melody within the driving, pounding Metal vibe. With the "Ripper" songs, it seems to me that much of the melodic value was lost in favor of a more "contemporary" sound. As you said, Priest evolved with what was popular at the time, just as they did with Turbo. The difference being Rob, of course. He always injected that melodic sense to the songs and gave Priest a very distinct sound.
In all honesty, I was not really following Priest at the time anyway. The last album I had purchased was Painkiller which, for me, signaled a "re-birth" for Priest and a return to a more "classic sound" after all the mid-eighties stuff. When Rob left the band, I was pretty much onto other things and paid little attention until just prior to his return. When I heard the Ripper stuff, I was covinced I would not follow them ever again and then, Rob returned. AoR really sealed it for me. I love that album. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by kiamat from Friday, January 08, 2010 8:39:06 AM)
Thats a fair comment, as it is probably just that which attracts me to these albums- I grew up right in the middle of nu-metal and hardcore, and although it is desperately uncool these days to admit that you ever liked any of it (most of my peers would much rather pretend they were listening to Black Sabbath and Van Halen in the late 90s/early 00s) but it was a more fertile time for metal than people claim- the genre moved forwards a lot and Priest were right in the thick of it without selling out- it is very distinctively them and they took the brutuality of Painkiller and put in a new dimension with some creepy keys and synths work. The lyrics are perhaps not up to their 80s standards- I guess that's another opinion thing.
Deep Freeze wrote:
Oh dear! I just could not disagree with you more. I mean, I am not "anti-Ripper" but those albums simply are NOT Priest, for me. The music style is just nothing like "classic" Priest. Far too "hardcore" for me. More like a Nu-Metal sound than a classic Heavy Metal. Of course, its all opinion and we all have our own. I just do not care for Jugulator, Demolition, etc.
I agree- and it was much better than Crack the Skye. Although I'll be frank, I went off Mastodon after their thoroughly mediocre performance supporting Slayer in October 08.
As to Priest albums, I think that Point of Entry and Ram It Down are 'completist only' albums (but feel free to disagree) but generally most of their albums are worth it, and don't neglect the Ripper era- Demolition is very, very good.