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[Tyrant] Sunday, July 29, 2012 8:39:22 AM 



Edited at: Sunday, July 29, 2012 8:41:51 AM
[Tyrant] Sunday, July 29, 2012 8:38:02 AM 
In Australia , politics has hit a new low, nobody has the balls to do anything, most of us id say, are just board to death !

Tyrant ..

Never turn your back, on the Ripper ! T.O.
[Budred] Wednesday, November 09, 2011 8:59:36 AM 
Whoa man, were not all douche-bags.
I'm with you man, I voted yes on that shit.
 
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by METALMANJP from Wednesday, November 09, 2011 8:28:53 AM)
[METALMANJP] Wednesday, November 09, 2011 8:28:53 AM 
Ohioans- what a bunch of douchebags ! Voting down Issue 2 "collective Bargaining" How many people in the world accrue sick days, have taxes fund there retirement plan and don't have to make a profit to get paid ? My city is broke and the police chief retired and has a full year of sick days we have to pay him for WTF !!! THINK PEOPLE!!!
Edited at: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 8:29:30 AM
[metallo] Wednesday, October 20, 2010 2:22:32 PM 
What to say. Only one name: BERLUSCONI. What a pity !!!!! Poor Italy, but Italians once did it better, now do it worst. COME ON, WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Budred] Tuesday, September 28, 2010 7:00:38 AM 
No but I may look it up. I love that guy. They took him out of our paper over a year ago and I've kind of forgotten about him. 
In my (personal) opinion I think this man makes alot of sense. I never considered him a Democrat or Republican because
he just speaks the truth. F/Glenn Beck, Billo the clown, or MSNBC or anyone else(media) taking a side one way or the other. 
We're being destoyed by our government and our corporations period. Neither side is doing anything but causing division in 
this country.(Rember: Divided We Fall!!!) There is an article out today talking about  the gap between rich and poor is greater 
than it's ever been. (REALLY!!!)(How could that be?) (Not because of corporations?) Charley Reese points out what's wrong 
and provides good arguments as to why he's right. Pay attention to this man. Read some of his articles and you'll see what I mean.
Was that a rant? I haven't done that for awhile.
I'll stop now.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by METALMANJP from Tuesday, September 28, 2010 6:39:09 AM)
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[METALMANJP] Tuesday, September 28, 2010 6:39:09 AM 
Has anyone read the article "545 PEOPLE" by Charlie Reese. If you live in the US you should. It's time to clean house.
[guitardude] Saturday, August 28, 2010 3:57:44 PM 
If BP was one of the boycotting companies, you can breathe a sigh of relief. They would find a way to contaminate that beautiful country  you have there.
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[RIFFY] Saturday, August 28, 2010 12:57:48 PM 

YUP ITS PRETTY MUCH STILL THE SAME HERE,,LOL

[Soylentgreen4u a.k.a. theWOLFMAN] Saturday, August 28, 2010 8:27:49 AM 
OH ABSOLUTELY... BUNCH OF HYPOCRITES AND LIARS RUNNING THE SHOW... BUT THEY BOTH SEVERELY DAMAGED THE ENVIRONMENT...BUT UNTIL THE BASTARDS CAN RING OUT EVERY PENNY,
THEY'LL KEEP SCREWING THINGS UP...THE WAY OF THE HUMAN RACE IT SEEMS...GREED,GREED,
GREED.

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Head banger from Friday, August 27, 2010 6:20:44 AM)
[Head banger] Friday, August 27, 2010 6:20:44 AM 
wonder how many will boycott offshore drilling?  in just 90 days created more polution than the oilsands have managed in 30 years.
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[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, August 27, 2010 1:15:19 AM 
"soybean"......."HAHA"!!!
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Thursday, August 26, 2010 8:56:29 PM)
[spapad] Thursday, August 26, 2010 8:56:29 PM 
That's nice to know soybean.
[Soylentgreen4u a.k.a. theWOLFMAN] Thursday, August 26, 2010 8:28:01 PM 
4 MORE U.S. COMPANIES JOIN BOYCOTT OF ALBERTA OIL SANDS FUEL. 
[guitardude] Sunday, August 15, 2010 5:00:47 PM 
Funny you mention Clinton in that manner, the man had the fastest zipper in the west!! 
I understand the issue was much bigger, I just didn`t want to type all afternoon.
 I can`t imagine what the economic impact has been after all these years with essentially civil war lurking around the corner. My curiosity has been peaked by all this and I must read more about it.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by _strat_ from Sunday, August 15, 2010 1:41:29 PM)
[_strat_] Sunday, August 15, 2010 1:41:29 PM 
Ah well... Lets not try to make this into a flame war...

Now, the issue is much more complicated than that. 

First of all, a bit of a correction: when we say "former Yugoslavian" we usualy (at least here, in former Yugoslavia) refer to the period before 1991, when the country was still whole. What was around in 1999 was called Yugoslavia, but actualy it was only a small remnant of it, comprising only two out of former six republics and less than half of the population of the original state. Thats why we refer to it as Serbia and Montenegro, or just Serbia. 

Now to the conflict. Kosovo was not invaded, not in the usual meaning of the word - it was an autonomous province within Serbia, and the federal government in Belgrade had full jurisdiction over it. Federal military was always stationed there.

So much for terminology. As for the rest, yes, it did end quickly - at least the military part of it. The problem is that Kosovo is now a frozen conflict, that doesnt look like it will be properly resolved any time soon. And it certainly is creating new tensions between Russia and the West (since Russians and Serbs are traditional allies). Not to mention new hatred towards Albanians (which were always the least popular nationality in our former state; now even more so).

Now, as far as the intervention goes... Shit, I still say that a certain horny bastard from a certain house that as it happens is painted white... Should pay for it. Preferably with his head.


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[guitardude] Sunday, August 15, 2010 1:23:49 PM 
Strat
Just in case you did drift over here, I read up on the Nato attacks. It was only after lenghty negotiations that were obviously doomed that Nato acted to stop the former Yugoslavian military from attacking Kosovo, they had a  massive troop and equipment build up around Kosovo, action had to be taken. Now should it have came to that, no way!  But unfortunately, the powers that be have these great arsenal`s at their disposal`s and feel the need to prove themselves. Surprisingly , even the French backed the Nato troops.
Though Russia`s stance could have very well started the cold war all over again. Luckily it ended quickly. And at least all the major world powers are still friends. Theorectically anyway.
[Palmer Griffiths] Sunday, May 23, 2010 9:26:05 AM 
 I thought this would be a pretty good link for this thread. Some Commentary from the Late Great George Carlin. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWiBt-pqp0E&feature=related
[Head banger] Wednesday, April 14, 2010 7:23:17 PM 
well, here banks make more than oil companies, but.... what to do about it.  the real thing would be to eliminate all the tax dodges and make the tax code one page long.  but that wont happen.
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[spapad] Wednesday, April 14, 2010 6:59:06 PM 
You can't see the vid? Well, essentially it said that we can't tax the rich, we are just supposed to wait until their trousers grow so heavy from money that some coins fall out and the rat hunting little guys might grab a few coins, and we cant tax the middle class because they are the ones who get things done in this country, but we should go after the poor who earn less than 30,000 per year and if for tax deductions and excetera, they actually end up getting a refund then they are the ones who should be serving in the military. I only earn 24,000 a year and support a child and manage. So by the conservatives standards I would be going to Iraq. Good idea!
BTW Exxon made more than any company last year, and because of off shore contracts paid not one penny of tax to the U.S.
Bout summs it up.

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