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[guitardude] Saturday, June 28, 2008 5:07:48 PM 
Very well put Tim!!
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by TIMBONI from Friday, June 27, 2008 7:44:11 PM)
[_strat_] Saturday, June 28, 2008 7:33:49 AM 
Aha, so basicly if Im playing a certain scale with a root in (for example) G, then Im playing in the key of G. Well, that isnt all that complicated.

Not that I want to know all about music theory (which is as shitty as it is boring). Its just that the "keys" stuff is mentioned a lot in tabs, and I wanted to know whats it all about.

Thanks guys.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by TIMBONI from Friday, June 27, 2008 7:44:11 PM)
[TIMBONI] Friday, June 27, 2008 7:44:11 PM 
Think of keys as families of notes.  Keys are a group of notes that work well together.  Around this scales are created.  Of course there are always exceptions to the rule.  In many fusion / jazz applications the players will intentionally use notes that are technically "out of key" to create the effect of tension in the music or to lead the listener's ear to an intended "key change".  It sounds really technical, but it's not.  If you forget everything I just said and just play what you think sounds good, there is probably some place in music theory to justify it.  Music theory is almost as full of shit as psychology.  Just learn the scales and try them.  If it sounds good, go with it.  If it sounds like shit, move on.
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[guitardude] Friday, June 27, 2008 7:34:37 PM 
Theory is a little above my head,but the key is the root that a riff or passage is based on.
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[_strat_] Friday, June 27, 2008 4:47:11 PM 
Ive got a question for those who know music theory a bit.

What does it mean that something is in a certain "key"? I hear a lot of time how certain songs or parts of songs are in the key of E, E minor, A, ect. What is that all about?
[guitardude] Saturday, June 21, 2008 10:47:57 PM 
Got my boys Mini-V really set-up well. Great action for a tiny little guitar.The kid has been playing for hours everyday since I give it to him.
[Redman] Friday, June 13, 2008 5:48:41 AM 
Ah, I want Kahler 2200 to my Flying V... want it so bad. Would really make the guitar perfect.
[guitardude] Thursday, June 12, 2008 4:43:42 PM 
I have the Seymour Duncan Distortion in the bridge and the Vintage Staggered in the neck of my BC Rich.I just rewired the guitar on Tuesday ,had a ground hum. All is good now.I love those ADA preamps,they are so versatile!!
Good choice on the power amp also. A tube is a tube,but the wiring in the chasuis is what makes the difference. Peavey has some grat stuff.i`m constantly watching E-bay for an older Script model 5150 head.
You mentioned the Classic 50, alot of older players seem to like that amp, Never played thru one that I can remember. The newer Valve Kings do have a good vintage tone ,but with a modern edge when using that A/B control on the power amp.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by K2M from Wednesday, June 11, 2008 7:28:43 PM)
[K2M] Wednesday, June 11, 2008 7:28:43 PM 
Cool links Guitardude. Yes, that is why i love tubes. THey have a ramp or sag when they are sounding on and off.  I am using An ADA mp1 And a PEAVEY CLASSIC 60/60 or 120. I never got into the MESA BOOGIE. I went with Marshalls. I like the passive pickups I use THhe screamimhg dempn on a couple of my axes. It is
a mid output pickup. I dig a lower input voltage concept, then boost it in the Amp. 
Edited at: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 7:32:53 PM
[guitardude] Wednesday, June 11, 2008 5:42:37 PM 
K2M
Check this out    www.tubedepot.com      they have some great info on all different types of tubes.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by K2M from Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:33:21 PM)
[guitardude] Wednesday, June 11, 2008 5:18:46 PM 
Rectifier tubes do just that ,they rectify (controlling voltage) They change AC to DC and feed the power tubes their operating voltage. Now when you dig in hard to play,the tubes will "sag" due to the rectifier tube not completely keeping up the voltage to the tubes. This gives kind of a natural compression. EVH would drive his tubes above and beyond with output power,but would limit his input voltage to the amp with a variac. This was very much the "key" to his brown sound back then.
Now amps that use a "silicon diode" chip to supply the voltage are much more consistent with their output. Go to
www.mesaboogie.com  and look at the Road King head,it gives you a choice between the recifier tube or the silicon diode.
The rectifier tubes are really an old school way of doing things(but damn it sounds good!!)
Some classic Marshall Reissues have a recifier tube,like the Jemi hendrix model and I`m not sure about anymore.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by K2M from Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:33:21 PM)
[K2M] Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:33:21 PM 
Yes it lloks like the 5AR4. is a rectifer tube.  Is that like a voltage multiplier. I wonder if that thing blows as Hot 
as the price tag. I just wouldnt try. Everything else is compelling except the size.  I guess for moderate volumes this unit would excell.
[guitardude] Tuesday, June 10, 2008 6:52:40 PM 
K2M
I`m not sure of the exact model I played thru at a little shop.I believe it was the Seville(?).I know that it had the 6L6`s as they were large tubes.The 6V6`s are not as small in relation to the6L6`s as the 84`s are to the 34`s.The EL-34`s are not that big anyway.
I believe the 5AR4 is the rectifier tube in this case,rather than the 12at7. But I could be wrong here...?
But that amp I played had one 12 that was off center , there was enough room for two 12`s in there though.

MG
No worries at cutting in, more input and opinions are always welcome. I`ve jumped in on a many of conversations myself.   [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by K2M from Tuesday, June 10, 2008 4:17:02 PM)
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[~ MG_Metalgoddess~] Tuesday, June 10, 2008 5:31:32 PM 
LOL Iam glad you laughed I  was worried you guys would be mad I cut into your guitar conversation,.....LOL  sorry..LMAO I really couldnt resisit!!
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by K2M from Tuesday, June 10, 2008 4:22:25 PM)
[K2M] Tuesday, June 10, 2008 4:22:25 PM 
That is cute. momma. kinda made my day here at work.
[~ MG_Metalgoddess~] Tuesday, June 10, 2008 4:19:17 PM 
(+1) is the negative square root of the 12 equaling 6.5..  lol   Just kidding you guys I couldnt resist..............
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by K2M from Tuesday, June 10, 2008 4:17:02 PM)
[K2M] Tuesday, June 10, 2008 4:17:02 PM 
Thanks Guitar Dude. have you had any expirience with them. I stayed away from the peavey classic 50 because it was loaded with the EL84's. I like the Bigger tubes. And yes on the Rectifier tube the 12 AT, I indicated it as the (+1).
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guitardude from Tuesday, June 10, 2008 3:30:45 PM)
[guitardude] Tuesday, June 10, 2008 3:30:45 PM 
The 6V6`s are similiar to the 6L6`s,the way a EL-84 is to a EL-34.
Plus did you notice the rectifier tube listed in there?
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by K2M from Tuesday, June 10, 2008 1:05:38 PM)
[K2M] Tuesday, June 10, 2008 1:05:38 PM 
Wow!!!! All them tubes. 3+1 in the pre. nad 2 6V6's. Prob a nice and bubly amp.
I have'nt heard of a 6V6. I guess the 6L6 is a bigger power tube. The prise is steep. 15watt, 10'speaker
The jensen is probably a good choice there. A cone with more of the high end freq. focus
[guitardude] Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:45:03 AM 
An amp like that is for the purists among us that only true tube tone will do.I have played thru a similiar amp that Fender has and it`s a very good little amp. 
Modifying Fender amps is how Randall Smith got his start ,and now look where Mesa Boogie is at. It all has to start somewhere,and a small amp like this is a good place to start,now if it weren`t so expensive!!
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by MEDALGODDESS from Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:51:00 AM)
[~ MG_Metalgoddess~] Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:51:00 AM 
LOL... Now some-one wants to order one of these........   

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/PrinceRev65/

Its not a Marshall!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[guitardude] Sunday, June 08, 2008 8:37:30 PM 
SDB,no worries about that pick. I must admit that I got a grin out of the "DreamState" comment,though I know it`s totally un-related.
Good luck getting all your affairs in order.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by SDBinNY from Sunday, June 08, 2008 7:07:16 PM)
[~ MG_Metalgoddess~] Sunday, June 08, 2008 7:14:48 PM 

Hello SDB in NY..  Good luck to you and you're wife with youre new Buisness Venture..  I wish you both the best.  I completley understand about having lots to sort out. Iam having a house built in Canada from the US. and am trying to stay sane in the mean time.. Hopefully It will all work out. and I will get to move to Canada soon.   

Hugs to you

M

 


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[SDBinNY] Sunday, June 08, 2008 7:07:16 PM 
Thanks everyone, they are my "other kids"..

I know I haven't been around much, but my wife and I are trying to get our own business out of dreamstate and into reality. We have been eyeball deep in classes and government requirements. It hasn't manifested into anything physical as of yet, but there are many more factors involved than anticipated. In the midst of getting all this crap sorted out, we had to replace the roof on the house...

Guitardude.. I haven't forgotten about the pick, I just haven't been able to get there while the place is open. My Cat parts guy has one waiting for me the next time I have to run over there...
[~ MG_Metalgoddess~] Sunday, June 08, 2008 5:31:54 PM 
SDBinNY.... you ROCK!!!!!!!!!  I remember when you sent me this pic not that long ago,, of all youre guitars.. I love the blue jackson 2nd to youre left.. my fav.. 

Yes every wife girlfriend..ect.. that lives with any musician should be allowed to have as many shoes boots purses she want..lol   .. Iam spoiled in that way myself...  

Iam glad to see you hear.. I wondered what happend to ya for a while..  Stay close my friend..  Hugs to you and you're family.. MG
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[guitardude] Sunday, June 08, 2008 12:33:13 PM 
Man ,now that`s a family outing I would love to attend!! I`d be a babbling idiot around all that hardware!!
Damn SDB,those are awesome!!
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[guidogodoy] Sunday, June 08, 2008 1:39:08 AM 
Thanks. I love to see them as well. Awesome.
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[SDBinNY] Saturday, June 07, 2008 9:52:02 PM 
Here you go Guitardude... Had all the C/J's out today and snapped a family portrait...  






By the way... Goddess... My wife can have ALLLLL the purses she wants....
Edited at: Saturday, June 07, 2008 9:53:05 PM
[Head banger] Saturday, June 07, 2008 10:49:08 AM 
lol
thanks, but no thanks.
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[~ MG_Metalgoddess~] Saturday, June 07, 2008 8:28:52 AM 
LOL @ HB..  I love guitars myself.. tried to learn to play... I just dont have the dexterity in my hands.. plus I dislocated my thumb 2 times.. On my Left hand.. 

P.S.  If you need a purse I have plenty..LOL  I would be happy to send you one..  I have a black leather metal studded one I think you would like....lol
I Missed You my Canadian friend.. Glad to see you again....
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[guitardude] Friday, June 06, 2008 7:02:38 PM 
MG
I am also a guy that had only two guitars over my gigging years,made me appreciate what I had!! I had 5 at one time as a teenager,but they were all copiesof various models ,not the real deal. Now I have only one and i am perfectly content with it,but am always on the lookout for that next big "deal of the day"
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[guitardude] Friday, June 06, 2008 6:59:16 PM 
Hey J.D.! I`m a BC Rich guy myself,the Virgin is a damn cool guitar.In that pic there are some rings at the end of the tremelo arm.....greatest invention since baked bread!! used to have to tape mine as sweating made it hard to hangon sometimes!!
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Friday, June 06, 2008 4:54:47 PM)
[Head banger] Friday, June 06, 2008 5:59:18 PM 
I own none.  and 2 pairs of shoes and one pair of boots

next?
I dont own a single purse either
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by MEDALGODDESS from Friday, June 06, 2008 5:08:47 PM)
[~ MG_Metalgoddess~] Friday, June 06, 2008 5:36:23 PM 
Iam logging out for a little while.. going to give the puter to someone else to use......... for a while.. ( i hog it all the time)..lol

Talk to you later JD..  Have a great weekend...
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by MEDALGODDESS from Friday, June 06, 2008 5:34:36 PM)
[~ MG_Metalgoddess~] Friday, June 06, 2008 5:34:36 PM 
This Economic status of the US is terrible.. I was watching the stock market today.. I couldnt believe it.. Well I guess I can.. Look who's running the country.. A hillbilly in the whitehouse.......... lol   My brother estimated it cost him 350.00-400.00 a month for gas just to get to work.. Its taking a huge chunk out of everyones pocket.. I think Its soo sad.. How are people supposed to help their children with school, and Food.. ect....   My nephew is suppose to start college.. And his parents dont know what they are going to do...    Iam just happy to be going to see the priest ..  It really made my summer..  I have had nothing to look forward to.. In a long time.
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[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, June 06, 2008 5:27:57 PM 
LOL!! Yeah, I hear ya!!  Shit I make only $21 bucks an hour and thats simply not enough!! 15 years ago that was a lot of money but in 2008...its peanuts.....especially with gas prices up over $4 bucks a gallon!!!  I guess the more ya make,the more ya spend. Today,it would take $40.00 bucks an hours to just be comfortable and getting buy.But 21 bucks an hour just doesn't cut it,not at all. Sadly!
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by MEDALGODDESS from Friday, June 06, 2008 5:20:08 PM)
[~ MG_Metalgoddess~] Friday, June 06, 2008 5:20:08 PM 
Yeah .. Thats why I try and keep my brother off the internet... He sees this stuff out there and wants it all and wants it now..  LOL He doesnt have the money for it either.      But What the HELL do I know..lol   Iam not one to tell anyone what to do..  So long as people are happy.. Is all that matters.. Broke.. but happy.. lol
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[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, June 06, 2008 5:15:05 PM 
LOL!!! Yes but If I had the $ money.....I would have 30 guitars even if I don't need that many...or even would play that many....I don't know why I would have that many if I did have the cash,but somehow I just know that I would find myself buying lods of guitars if I did have the cash....kinda like people with a lot of cars!!!
I get your point though......but guitars are so awsome!!!! Now I want to buy one today!!! I won't becasue if I did I would be broke for the rest of the year!! LOL!
It would take me a full year to recover from this!! LOL!! I know better though!!
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by MEDALGODDESS from Friday, June 06, 2008 5:08:47 PM)
[~ MG_Metalgoddess~] Friday, June 06, 2008 5:08:47 PM 
ah yes AC/DC  another of my fav bands..  Just 2 guitars.. well I must say you are the first man I have met with only 2..  Good for you!!  everyone else I know has a least 5-20..lol    which I believe you dont  need that many...   

( and if anyone starts on me about how many pairs of boots/shoes, or purses I own   ehem!!!!   LMAO) My Brother hasnt recieved the guitar yet.. They are in the process of building it...   [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Friday, June 06, 2008 5:05:13 PM)
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[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, June 06, 2008 5:05:13 PM 
Yeah,I'm not a big fan of Flying Vs either,just don't like the feel of them,awkward to me but to others like Ken,they fit them perfectly.Just never been to hip on those ..I agree.
I bet the Sunburst is excellent!!  

I have a Gibson SG red with black plate,like Angus Young of AC/DC has..kinda! Great guitar...thats the only guitars that I own,sadly!! LOL!
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by MEDALGODDESS from Friday, June 06, 2008 5:00:33 PM)
[~ MG_Metalgoddess~] Friday, June 06, 2008 5:00:33 PM 
Not bad.. for the price..  My brother just ordered the sunburst strat.. like Kens..  That is my fav guitar of his... I am not to hip on the flying V series.. ( hopefully ken didnt  hear me say that)  although I do like the new white one he just got.   shit I cant type anymore..lol  I had to g oin and correct this .. lol

Youre guitar is very nice.  Do you own just one?  lol   [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Friday, June 06, 2008 4:58:31 PM)
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[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, June 06, 2008 4:58:31 PM 
It costs about  $800.00 to $900.00 bucks,but I got mine for $300.00 dollars back in in 2001!!!!!!!!! Lucked out!!
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[~ MG_Metalgoddess~] Friday, June 06, 2008 4:57:04 PM 
How many pretty pennies did that cost..lol  if you dont me asking?
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[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, June 06, 2008 4:56:12 PM 
Hey Metal Goddess.......B.C.RICH VIRGIN SERIES is what I play the most except the neck is total black on mine.Fucking awsome guitar though!!   [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Friday, June 06, 2008 4:54:47 PM)
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[~ MG_Metalgoddess~] Friday, June 06, 2008 4:56:08 PM 
Is that the guitar you have J.D?
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[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, June 06, 2008 4:54:47 PM 
[Redman] Monday, June 02, 2008 5:36:06 AM 
Phantom would be an awesome guitar. It is definitely a guitar that I would buy if I wanted a new guitar AND had a chance to buy one. GT or A5, doesn't really matter. Original A5 might be quite interesting actually...
[guitardude] Sunday, June 01, 2008 7:33:39 PM 
Add the word "miss" between the and good,for that to make sense!!
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[guitardude] Sunday, June 01, 2008 4:39:47 PM 
Damn these scout campouts!!! Always make me the good stuff!!!!! That Phantom would have been the score of the year!!
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