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[Bazookajoe_666] Saturday, November 07, 2009 4:48:12 PM 
The Vetta is like 2 or 3 times the price of MKII. And from the specs and stuff I read, it just seems like it has a tone of stuff you'd never use or need.  Although the footswitch that you can get for it to control all the built in pedals sounds fuckin sweet.

Can the MKII do the pedal thing too?
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guitardude from Saturday, November 07, 2009 4:34:12 PM)
[guitardude] Saturday, November 07, 2009 4:34:12 PM 
The Vetta is awesome. It`s a digital amp. It has tons of power , no matter the load you put on it (4,8or 16ohms) . Tubeamps require that you match the load by a switch on back, no big deal though. With the Vetta, you can have doing a emulation of any Marshall on the left channel and a emulation of a Mesa Boogie on the right , or vice-versa!! Any combination you can think up, it`ll do. It has all kinds of "pedals" stored internally andwith the foot controller you can get for it. That`s really all you will ever need. It would be like having a rackful of gear on your backline.
Just get two cabs for it so you can explore in stereo.
I tested one out a few years back and ended up staying several hours trying all the diferent things it can do. And I still didn`t get close to exploring it all.
The Mk II`s are tube, and that is my favorite for tone. But if you want the Vetta, go for it, you won`t be sorry.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Bazooka Joe from Friday, November 06, 2009 8:40:30 PM)
[Bazookajoe_666] Friday, November 06, 2009 8:40:30 PM 

Still my Spider 3.

I've been kind of interested in getting a new amp for a while and then I saw you guys talking about the Spider Valke MkII amp.1,500$ isn't a half bad price.

What do you guys think of the Spider valve MkII COMPARED to the Vetta? There both Line 6.


  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guitardude from Friday, November 06, 2009 6:47:32 PM)
[guitardude] Friday, November 06, 2009 6:47:32 PM 

Joe
 If your first amp was a Line6, what are you playing thru now?


  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Bazooka Joe from Friday, November 06, 2009 2:26:13 PM)
[guitardude] Friday, November 06, 2009 6:46:40 PM 
K2M
I have looked at the Line6 amps and I like them, I had a couple of the Line6 PODS that were good. The first I sold due to it`s complexity, I wanted to do changes on the fly and diging into a menu wasn`t what I wanted. I then went with another lesser POD but it broke. 
I now have that Behringer and love it. I `ve found it easy to dial in the tones on the Behringer to work well with the EMG`s in my guitar.
Check out the new Marshall combos, The Haze and the Class5, affordable and all tube.
The class5 only has a volume, bass, mid and treble  that`s it!! I think with my DS-1 or my Silver Dragon in front of it , it`ll scream!!
Right now, an amp is a definite after christmas purchase, that is unless I get cold feet again, as usual.

When I was using the BBE,. I used it to enhance my signal after all that processing dulled it up. My EQ was set to boost the upper frequenicies and the level for solo`s.
[K2M] Friday, November 06, 2009 2:46:37 PM 
I like the Id of setting the EQ flat. and getting a level boost. I would use one or the other to color the sound. I would use the bbe.
See if the signal boost from the eq sounds good. Maybe for solo's.
The Cry baby is something i dont use much. It is great for trippy soloing or funking riffs. but i never liked the way it colored my sound. they are fun to play with. But just for a while. IMO the wah wah takes over.
The wah was used as a "filter" when it was left half open/closed to give use a mid range cut/boost. to cut through. I like to go for the tone without the cry baby. It is good to have around sometimes. I never start from there.
Edited at: Friday, November 06, 2009 2:47:14 PM
[Bazookajoe_666] Friday, November 06, 2009 2:26:13 PM 
My first amp WAS my Line 6 Spider 3. It can do anything I want to basically. There great amps.

But out of all the 400+ present tones, they all suck ass except like 4 of them.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by K2M from Friday, November 06, 2009 1:54:45 PM)
[K2M] Friday, November 06, 2009 1:54:45 PM 
GuitarDude
Checkout the Line 6Spider amp series. THey are fantastic at simulating the great tube amp voicings.
they are cheap. THey sound great. Tubes rule. Check out line 6 as an affordable option. I has brought me desired results
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guitardude from Thursday, November 05, 2009 5:33:28 PM)
[K2M] Friday, November 06, 2009 1:42:48 PM 
I am making an assessment based on what i like.
JD the Eq in you signal chain is adding that desired extra crunchness.
THe BBE will do the same thing. IMO The BBE will Make your sound Sizzle. Kind of a pro mod additive.
Gives you a modernized crunch.  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Thursday, November 05, 2009 5:33:11 PM) Edited at: Friday, November 06, 2009 1:43:05 PM
Edited at: Friday, November 06, 2009 1:45:04 PM
[guitardude] Friday, November 06, 2009 1:01:20 PM 
JD
 That is the question of the ages!!
Here is a simple rule for what pedal in what order... process your distortion, don`t distort your processing.
The HM-2 should be first the your EQ .
EQ`s are notorious for being noisy whitenoise (hiss), if you put it in front of the HM-2 then your are distorting your noise!!
If you were to have a setup like I once had, .... this is the order you could consider 
Compresser, distortion, wah pedal,eq,phaser or flanger, delay, chorus, noise gate BBE or any other type of signal enhancer.
Now that is not something that is set in stone, experiment and see what  you like. That was the order of what I had when I was gigging. The wah pedal would find itself after the eq from time to time, not sure why I would change it, just did.
Also, use a regulated power supply, not the batteries. As the battery dies, then even in the off position, the pedal will affect your signal by not allowing it to pass thru properly.
Now, with that said, there are some pedals that offer a true bypass feature when off and then the bad battery shouldn`t mess with your signal.
KK and Glenn both once said that they had pedals in their boards (interview was from the 80`s) that they never used anymore, but didn`t remove them because it may affect their tone .
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Thursday, November 05, 2009 5:38:35 PM)
[Bazookajoe_666] Thursday, November 05, 2009 9:38:09 PM 

All of that shit is so confusing haha.

So many different combinations of EVERYTHING. Ever little detail fucks with your tone, its insane.

[SDBinNY] Thursday, November 05, 2009 7:20:12 PM 
Guitar~HM2~BBE~Amp.

If you are happy with your tone, put the eq in the effects loop and set it flat with a slightly higher output level for the boost. If you are using it to shape your tone, play with the set up and see where it fits best. Most likely the BBE will be at the end of the chain.

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[J.D. DIAMOND] Thursday, November 05, 2009 5:38:35 PM 
Hey guitardude,so should I have first my boss Heavy Metal2 pedal,then a BBE and take out the GE-7 or use all 3? Id also like to get a cry baby too so would I use all 4? What should I do here,I like hearing ideas...
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guitardude from Thursday, November 05, 2009 5:33:28 PM)
[guitardude] Thursday, November 05, 2009 5:33:28 PM 
 Sadly, I don`t have either of my Marshalls anymore, priorities changed so they had to go. I have been in the market for something smaller for a long time now, all tubes preferably, but without breaking the bank.
K2M is right on the BBE, I had one and they make such a difference, really livens things up. I also had the GE-7 that I used to mainly boost my top end for solos.
The HM-2 you have is good, you don`t have to run it WFO, they can be used as an Overdrive . with good results.
At one point I had nearly an all Boss setup consisting of a 
Compressor, EQ, Digital Delay, Chorus. I also had a Dunlop Dimebag model Crybaby, Rocktron Silver Dragon Distortion and a Hush  pedal.
I still have the Silver Dragon, and I also have a Boss DS-1 that was given to me by a member of the board here. Occasionally I plug into my son`s little Fender amp and use the DS-1. Otherwise I use my newly attained Behringer V-amp 2 with headphones. I can plug in the Mp3 and wail away.
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[J.D. DIAMOND] Thursday, November 05, 2009 5:33:11 PM 
Oh yeah? Alright I'll check that out.Thanks K2M.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by K2M from Thursday, November 05, 2009 4:56:59 PM)
[K2M] Thursday, November 05, 2009 4:56:59 PM 
Try the BBE sonic maximizer pedal. place it after the distrotion pedal.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Thursday, November 05, 2009 3:54:45 PM)
[J.D. DIAMOND] Thursday, November 05, 2009 3:54:45 PM 
What kind of pedals tdo you use with your Marshall guitardude? I have a MG 100 HDFX half stack that my roomate got for me last June and I have an old 1984 boss Heavy Metal 2 pedal and a boss equalizer GE-7 pedal that I use,this gives me an extra metalic crunch thats clear ect... what would you recomend me getting or using?
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[guitardude] Thursday, November 05, 2009 2:20:08 PM 
Back when I was doing gigs, I would set the volume on my Marshall (JCM 800 2205 model)at 4 and that was plenty. Occasionally, when we played a larger venue , I would do 4.5 , but that was mainly for my own sound and being able to hear myself adequately.
The JCM 900 that I had briefly a couple of years ago, was about the same as it was a 50 watter also. That one only saw action at a friends shop building where we (old band mates from several bands would get together and play) and never needed to be cranked up much.
[SDBinNY] Wednesday, November 04, 2009 7:26:05 PM 
You say bleeding as if it is a bad thing. Keeps the bone marrow busy and healthy....lol

Actually, have never been in a situation where "10" was neccessary, but blowin the dust off the china isn't a bad thing once in a while....
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Bazooka Joe from Tuesday, November 03, 2009 8:50:20 PM)
[guitardude] Wednesday, November 04, 2009 5:52:48 PM 
There is a point while playing  that you can get your speakers to resonate and really breathe, that`s when your in the sweet spot and nothing sounds or feels quite like it!!!
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