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Maiden or Saxon ...Metal Showdown
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[J.D. DIAMOND] Saturday, April 23, 2011 10:47:56 AM 
LOL! Here is a worse one than that Brian, check out this pile of fuck...."I Can't Wait anymore" 1988 Destiny shit album....

You know whats sad? Is that 16 members voted for this shit over your 5 members sticking up for Iron Maiden ...HA! lMFAO!!!!!  Dude your Maiden can't beat this shit man! lol!
Now that is some funny Saturday morning shit!! lol!!

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[Brian_Evans] Saturday, April 23, 2011 10:30:18 AM 
 You've been right all along man, a band that could do a cover like this has to be better than Maiden. They set the standard for classic metal with this one.  

I love Cross's version but this ... wow ... the guitar and the harmonies ... geez ... knocks me off my feet.!!!!  


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[J.D. DIAMOND] Saturday, April 23, 2011 3:07:42 AM 
16 members says it is better than Maiden,5 members says its not. You do the math...wait.....I'm sorry,this is too difficult for you to do. (lol) Fucking dork lol

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Brian_Evans from Saturday, April 23, 2011 12:08:05 AM)
[Brian_Evans] Saturday, April 23, 2011 12:08:05 AM 
That track is not even in Maidens league.  

Nostradamus is better than that



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[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, April 22, 2011 3:28:49 PM 
Saxon - Hammer Of The Gods - 2011 Call To Arms

Yes The Final Frontier sucks big balls Rik,its flat and boring to say the least. Lets face it,Saxon nowadays DESTROYS Maiden,and writes better songs for british heavy metal while Maiden is writting long boring flat dull folk/rock.

Edited at: Friday, April 22, 2011 3:30:37 PM
[Rik_] Friday, April 22, 2011 12:48:55 PM 
As you say priest & particularly saxon kept it going. All this talk had me playing Final frontier in the car today. I've only played it once before since I bought it, and seeing a we have tickets for the tour this summer I thought i'd give it anoher go but apart from maybe  a couple of tracks I cant get into it. too long winded. A bit like the lst one.

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Friday, April 22, 2011 7:40:15 AM)
[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, April 22, 2011 7:40:15 AM 
Well ya know I don't really think thats the case with Maiden,I mean look at Priest after Turbo the same year as Somewhere In Time 1986...they at least had Ram It Down which was better than 1990's No Prayer album,and of course we have Painkiller 1990 same year as No Prayer...even Jugulator was better than ANYTHING Maiden did in the 1990's. And of course Angel Of Retribution totally smokes anything Maiden has done since Powerslave,thats for sure.

Look at Saxon...thier first 5 studio albums (1979 - 1983) were good (not as good as 80's Maiden though) then from 1984 to 1992 they wrote 6 shit albums in a row. But they snapped out of it starting in 1995 with Dogs Of War and changed thier image to a normal rock/heavy metal band like they should be instead of thier silly 1980's image and the song writting from that album....up to now 2011 Call To Arms the last 8 studio albums Saxon has written has been the best material they have ever done in my opinion(and many others too).

Why can't Maiden do this? Priest and Saxon at least recovered from thier shitty albums but Maiden keeps writting these boring lame dull albums.Brave New World to me is only half good just like Point Of Entry,sure half of it is cool but the other half sucks balls. Dance Of Death I hate the entire album,AMOLAD I do like minus the two shit singles  & videos and The Final Frontier is all SHIT. 

Steve Harris is the reason Maiden sucks,he is also the reason the old Maiden albums(1980 - 1984) is so good. He just forgot how to write killer albums. Maiden should of returned Eddie back to the streets like he was in Killers,and numberous drawings ect...and harken thier sound back to Piece Of Mind/Number Of The Beast....

Thats what formula they should of gone with because I think it would of sparked the quality of the song writting. This progressive shit like The Final Frontier is so much further progressed than A Matter Of Life And Death its not even funny,its like a "folk/rock album" not a british heavy metal album.  Saxon just stays within thier bounderies and uses the same formula and thier fans love them for it.

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[Rik_] Friday, April 22, 2011 6:33:56 AM 
Maybe we're just old stick in the muds JD "caught some where in time" !! , but I agree to some extent with what you say, I've not really bought much Metallica since master of puppets and likes Def Leppard appeal to a totally different audience to what they did in their first couple of albums.
Must be hard for likes of maiden & metallica though to follow up early successes and keep it going for years If they don't do something a bit different they get accused of every album being the same like AC/DC or Status Quo, they'll not win many new fans but at least you know what you're getting. I think some bands just get too big if that's possible?

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[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, April 22, 2011 5:58:31 AM 
Whatever it may be,Iron Maiden has "SUCKED" for the last 25 years now(1986 Somewhere In Shit album) with only one decent album(2006).  The Final Frontier is utterly a gross display of shit,its boring,and spanks of shit song writting.

This band used to crank out cult classics like Where Eagles Dare,Flash Of The Blade,The Prisoner,To tame A Land,Aces High,Wrathchild,Phantom Of The Opera...and then came the Somewhere In Shit album....sure Seventh Son was ok,and then 2006's A Matter Of Life And Death was "ok" but everything else is shit.

After Powerslave and since they wrote the Somewhere In Crap album they have "NEVER RECOVERED".  There are a small percentage of fan..(a small) that like the newer Maiden just as much as the old,but not many. Thats like saying there are a small percentage of fans that like the shit Turbo album too. Same thing.  Iron Maiden are the 2nd biggest disappointment in metal history with Shitallica at number one.

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Rik_ from Friday, April 22, 2011 3:11:02 AM)
[Rik_] Friday, April 22, 2011 3:11:02 AM 
Speaking in general, I reckon what sometimes happens is bands develop as musicians from the early days and want to showcase this in their albums. You often hear them saying it in interviews. This  seems in many cases, to result in songs becoming technical magnum opuses, or concept albums. Sometimes though it's the rawness of the earlier music which attracted a lot of people to them, many of who are not accomplished musicians ourselves and don't appreciate the "improved" direction of the newer stuff. Probably this is why after a while you get a back to their roots album.

I remember that documentary a few years ago featuring Saxon where Harvey Goldsmith the PR man was trying to basically commercialise the band sound to appeal to a new audience. The band didn't like what he had planned for them and told him it was great  to get  new fans, but they had fans who'd been following them for nearly 30 years to consider too.

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[J.D. DIAMOND] Thursday, April 21, 2011 4:22:56 PM 
Yes,Saxon are much better song writters these days than Maiden is. Maiden's albums after Seventh Son are shit besides a few songs and one album I like "A Matter Of Life And Death" besides the 2 shit songs on the album Different World and Benjamin Bragg(yuk) the album's 8 other songs are decent for what Iron maiden is these days but the album is nowhere near Seventh Son...which Seventh Son is nowhere near Powerslave...which is nowhere near Piece Of Mind,Number Of The Beast,Killers or Iron Maiden debut album.

So in general the last 21 years of Maiden is crap,just because I like one album doesn't mean I like post 1988 Iron Maiden.  Saxon on the other hand have 8 studio albums in a row that are top notch 1995's Dogs Of War up to thier new album Call To Arms,the band is amazing and keep putting out classic albums with only 1 or sometimes 2 lame songs on an album but they give you 9 or 10 tracks that are totally awsome. Saxon has totally wiped up Maiden these last 16 years but don't get enough credit for it. 

Iron Maiden are living off thier early 80's albums,while writting shitty albums and Eddie's marketing,album covers,merchandise ect... Saxon are giving thier fans kick ass british styled heavy metal.

Saxon leads 16 votes to Maiden's measly 5 votes.

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[Rik_] Thursday, April 21, 2011 2:12:21 PM 
I agree JD about the earlier albums but Saxon have a lot of individual tracks which still go down well at live shows now and are classics. They always seem to have had to work harder to get the recognition they deserve too , which has resulted in them touring extensively playing a lot of smaller venues and has probably helped them keep on  improving by staying in touch with the fan base. They are always avilable to talk to fans at gigs and pose for photos etc.

The Iron Maiden brand seemed to take on a life of it's own and sold it's self during the 80s and up to present. Although I like the latest stuff I find it harder to listen to than the earlier work, & it doesn't have the live crowd pleasers in my opinion.
[J.D. DIAMOND] Thursday, April 21, 2011 12:45:04 PM 
With your post, Saxon is up 16 votes to Maiden's 5 votes in this thread,but lets be honest...its because of Saxon's last 16 years and thier last 8 studio albums.

I agree Saxon is better but again its because of the last 16 years(1995 - 2011) because if the thread were about 1980's Maiden vs.  1980's Saxon I'd vote for Iron Maiden hands down,and so would 95% of us all. 

Maiden's albums in the 80's were much much better than Saxon's albums in the 80's. But give credit where credit is due...Saxon nowadays is writting better heavy metal/rock material than Iron Maiden is and I think this thread shows it.

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[Rik_] Thursday, April 21, 2011 12:04:44 PM 
Have to say I have seen both bands many times since the 80s, but I prefer Saxon. They don't have the mass appeal of Maiden but this means they   tour all the smaller venues on a regular basis which makes for a better atmosphere than these big stadiums in my opinion. As much as I like Iron maiden I find I have to be in the mood to listen to them, particularly the newer stuff which is quite intense, and the tracks are long, whereas I can listen to Saxon most of the time as the music is more accesible.
[GREXUMER] Monday, April 18, 2011 2:02:53 AM 
I like both, but obviously I have more time listening to Maiden, than Saxon. However, both are great bands.
[guidogodoy] Wednesday, April 06, 2011 11:37:35 AM 
"a funin.' "  - You should try to use that phrase more often: "I'ze jest a funin' ya!"

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Head banger from Wednesday, April 06, 2011 7:57:39 AM)
[Head banger] Wednesday, April 06, 2011 7:57:39 AM 
yeah, I am just having fun with you.  fun, on the internet.  who would have thought?

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[J.D. DIAMOND] Wednesday, April 06, 2011 3:12:37 AM 
I couldn't agree more Guido!  For me Somewhere In Time "SUCKS".  When this piece of shit album came out I was pissed off because I bought the god damn thing. I was 100% totally "butt-hurt".  I was aching for a Powerslave follow up and this crap came out of my speakers? Fuckin "LAME"!!!!  And yeah the current Saxon fuckin wastes the current Maiden,no question. Like I said before,the 1980's Iron maiden blows away the 1980's Saxon. Killers,The Number Of The Beast and Piece Of mind are the 3 albums that are hard to beat,however I think Lionheart and The Inner Sanctum can stand up against the 1980 debut album "Iron Maiden" and Powerslave as well.

And can you not like Painkiller anymore?? Arrghhh as much as I get sick of hearing about it,I still LOVE the album hands down.  Victoria and I just listened to this entire LP the other day for the billianth time and it keeps getting better and better!!!    "SIGH" to each his own,except for Brian_Evans  (the shithead).

And to that jerk off loser in the Iron Maiden discussion thread...this is not to Guido............Yes I'm posting it here......yes I do like 'A Matter Of life And Death" but its nowhere near the early 80's albums and nowhere even near the current Saxon albums,no where near!!!  You want me off the fence? Come and try and knock me off of it I dare ya HAHA!!!  I'd break that hand of yours so quick you'd never be able to put on another shitty Iron Maiden album again LOL!!!!  Here is a finger not to Guido but to that little boy who comes here because the Iron Maiden forum charges $60.00 bucks a year to be a forum member? 

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[guidogodoy] Tuesday, April 05, 2011 8:36:53 PM 
Heh. While I think you mean the Island of MISFIT toys, it is a funny to think of "No Prayer" hanging out with ol' "Charlie-in-the-box."

So, to put this thread back on track? Current Saxon pwns current Maiden!

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[The Metallian] Tuesday, April 05, 2011 7:45:13 PM 
 I agree,i remember being saddened by the release of Somewhere in Time too!
After that blow to us metalheads with Turbo ( I bought  it April 3rd 1986),i kept thinking,maybe there is hope with the Maiden release,well, i thought wrong!
1986 was the end of metal as we knew it back then!
It was the big hair and glitter shit,man ol man,what a depressin time that was!
Metallica was the only thing in 86 that feed my metal hunger,but,i could feel there was a turn for the worst comin,and it did!
By the early 90's all my favorite Metal bands went to shit,then came Grunge!UUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHH!FUCK!

Most people got all excited about Painkiller,well,i liked it at first,better than No Prayer by Maiden that is for sure!
But now,i don't really care for Painkiller anymore!
No Prayer,well,that is downstairs in the box of reject cd's,just like the island for reject toys on that christmas show!!
Cheers everybody!
Rock Hard Ride Free!

The Master of all fucking Music!

The Metallian!

Sorry for kind of going off topic!

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