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Point Of Entry & Turbo..Classics or Crap ?
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What does everyone think of these two albums?






   

[soccer star] Sunday, July 17, 2011 2:43:38 PM 
I agree...
[You Don't Know What It's Like!] Sunday, July 17, 2011 11:58:47 AM 
And in my opinion, & I would suggest the band's also, POE has the stronger songs - "Heading Out To The Highway", "Hot Rockin'", "Desert Plains" & "Solar Angels" - all of which have been included in various sets since the album came out, where as all of TURBO's with the exception of the classic title track have been long since dropped.

Sure, there is an argument to be made for "Out In the Cold" & "Reckless", but I fear the latter will never see the light of day live as Rob can no longer sing that high.   [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by parky-priest from Thursday, March 10, 2011 2:21:25 PM)
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[Zorlon] Sunday, July 17, 2011 6:21:04 AM 
all Priest recordings are classic
[soccer star] Sunday, July 17, 2011 5:30:04 AM 
I think Desert Plains and Out In The Cold should have been included in the the latest Priest set list..
[parky-priest] Thursday, March 10, 2011 2:21:25 PM 
In my opinion Turbo has some strong songs on it. I think Reckless is an excellent song as is Out in the Cold, Hot for Love and Locked In (The guitar solos on these songs are superb!). Wild Nights.... is a great feelgood factor song whilst Rock you all around the world starts off promising but degenerates quickly. Yes, the Album lacks heavyness but it would be very interesting to hear Reckless on the forthcoming Epitaph tour. The rest of the Album in my opinion is weaker.
[K2M] Thursday, March 10, 2011 2:12:52 PM 
Dont Go Rules.
[Head banger] Thursday, March 10, 2011 12:24:40 PM 
well, I had no perm, no mullet.  I do cringe when my daughter quotes it to me.
other than that I dont mind it.  not great writing, but not the worst for sure.

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Thursday, March 10, 2011 10:34:34 AM)
[jimmyjames] Thursday, March 10, 2011 10:34:34 AM 
All sorts of crap resonates with the permed mullet brigade. I bet they all cringe every time they hear it now.
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[Head banger] Thursday, March 10, 2011 7:54:05 AM 
it may not have been age appropriate for them, but it resonated with their target audience.  at the time everyone I know played that song at home
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[electriceye69] Wednesday, March 09, 2011 11:08:34 PM 
Agree they were good in there time people ,dont realize bands have to go with the flow to stay in the times. Like Nostrdomaus,it got them on prime time T.V.. Its hard to change one minded people Like Ripper Owens he dont get his due he had some good tunes its hard to follow a legend, Halford left ,he was thrown into the fire And some Tracks like BuLLLLet train,One on one, Feed on me to name a few really Rock! Listen to Rapid Fire on live 98 Halford never did it that good ever!
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[guidogodoy] Wednesday, March 09, 2011 11:07:26 PM 
HAAAAAAAAA!!!!! While it is public knowledge that I actually like "Don't Go," that is just too damn funny.

Almost matches the level of pure disgust I have always felt for Stryper. Almost...

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Wednesday, March 09, 2011 9:17:44 PM)
[jimmyjames] Wednesday, March 09, 2011 9:17:44 PM 
Just because you've listened to them four times in the past two weeks doesn't mean you know what your talking about. Parental Guidance is utterly stupid especially coming from a bunch of guys in their mid to late 30s, as Priest were at the time. Also I wouldn't say Don't Go was one of Point Of Entry's "moments". Unless of course at that moment you were hit with an instance of projectile vomiting and explosive diarrhea at the same time whilst listening to it.   [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by NupeTheJawbreaker from Wednesday, March 09, 2011 4:33:21 PM)
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[Nupe The Ripper] Wednesday, March 09, 2011 4:33:21 PM 
Neither of them are crap. I have both of these on CD and vinyl and have listened to them about three to four times during the past two weeks (just like every other Priest album I own), so I know what I'm talking about.

PoE has it's moments with Heading Out to the Highway, Hot Rockin', Don't Go and Desert Plains, although it does also have not-so-good tracks like You Say Yes and Turning Circles. The album is much lighter than most other Priest albums but that's why I love the band; they've got so much variety, and this album in particular is for the feel-good moments.

I have more mixed feelings about Turbo. My other musical passion along with metal & rock is 80s pop (a weird combination, I know). So at the first glance, a combination of two of my favorite styles doesn't sound bad. I've always liked Turbo Lover - it was one of the songs that hooked me with the band. Out in the Cold is one of the best power ballads I've heard (I have a soft spot to power ballads, to be honest) and Reckless is a great hard rocker - although a bit out of it's place among the other, more synth-driven tracks. Again, there's some feel-good songs like Locked In, Parental Guidance, Rock You All Around the World and Wild Nights, Hot & Crazy Days, all of them great party songs. Private Property and Hot for Love try to be more serious but can't quite get there with all the synths, and are probably the weakest tracks on the album (although I love the solo in Hot for Love). Conclusion: I like the album, but it's not so much Priest as other albums. But I still listen to it regularly.

Edited at: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 4:39:27 PM
[K2M] Wednesday, March 09, 2011 2:49:47 PM 
Point of Entry is a Killer Desert off Road Fest of all things Dirt Invaders breath for Record. I am Going there, Where the Solar Angels Rule. I will be Turning Circles.   LOUD!
[soul stealer] Wednesday, March 09, 2011 2:08:13 PM 
i think that these 2 were a little too influenced by the glam of that time. true they are not the best but i wouldnt say crap. i just accept them as a part of priest.
[Becks] Tuesday, March 08, 2011 10:10:22 PM 
Sounds like me metalgodess. I like POE more than Turbo, but both albums unfortunately have a fair few bad songs. Turbo more so I believe, POE is underrated more often than not in my book.

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[metalgodess] Tuesday, March 08, 2011 5:02:41 PM 
anytime is tea-time!!!
[EdgarV72] Tuesday, March 08, 2011 5:01:21 PM 
let's get some green tea... it's tea-time here, you know
[metalgodess] Tuesday, March 08, 2011 4:53:08 PM 
now how do you know I didn't mean green tea?
[J.D. DIAMOND] Tuesday, March 08, 2011 4:52:22 PM 

I'm as "relaxed" as one can be,I don't drink and haven't had a drink in over 3 years now and I've already listened to some Priest today,I'm fine....how about you?

 


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[metalgodess] Tuesday, March 08, 2011 4:50:47 PM 
J.D.  - reeeeelaaaaax, have a drink, listen to some Priest!!!!!! LOL
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[EdgarV72] Tuesday, March 08, 2011 4:50:13 PM 
you really hate Stryper, huh? LOL
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[J.D. DIAMOND] Tuesday, March 08, 2011 4:45:08 PM 
To you in your opinion they are better than "that nordic black metal shit" but to me they are not,I'd take old Darkthrone over Stryper "ANYDAY".    That progressive symphonic music for nerds or that "metal-for-gangsters" nu "metal" american bands of today I fucking HATE too,I hate them just about as much as I hate Stryper. Wrong thread opps!


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[metalgodess] Tuesday, March 08, 2011 4:37:09 PM 
Both albums generated my fewest favourite songs, so when I posted my Epitaph tour setlist requests, I had no problem sticking to only 1 song from those 2 albums.  Truthfully I'd forsake any songs from Jug, POE, Demo & Turbo just to get extra tunes off DOTF, Painkiller, or the earlier albums.
[EdgarV72] Tuesday, March 08, 2011 4:30:50 PM 
Man, they are gone, you know?? but still they are much better than that nordic black "metal" shit or those progressive/symphonic music for nerds or that "metal-for-gangsters" nu "metal" american bands of today
[J.D. DIAMOND] Tuesday, March 08, 2011 4:21:18 PM 
Cause they are a bunch of posers that look like fucking whimps and that infects the music,I hate watered down heavy metal and I hate and never liked glam rock like Motley Crue. I hate the watered down sound of modern day Iron Maiden but would listen to that before a band like Stryper,sorry lol!


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[EdgarV72] Tuesday, March 08, 2011 4:16:57 PM 
Man, why do you hate so much American Hair Bands??
[J.D. DIAMOND] Tuesday, March 08, 2011 3:58:22 PM 
Oh bullshit in my opinion,"Turbo" is 100% "CRAP".  Judas Priest sunk mighty low in 1986 when they sold out to the American market of hair bands,that album I hate with a passion,even though Reckless is "ok" I still can't stand to listen to it because it is a "Turbo" memory and that sucks armpit hair to begin with!  And how can you call this atrocity a iconic 80's metal masterpiece?

Demolition is absolutely worse than Turbo is,I can't fathom in a million years what Budred sees in this terrible LP,YUK Budred lol!  Jugulator isn't much better but it still isn't Judas Priest in my eyes.    Point Of Entry is half good and half crap,just like Ram It Down is.     Turbo,Jugulator,Demolition and Nostradamus I will never own in my collection because I would never listen to them and I would HATE seeing them next to "classic" Priest albums.

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by EdgarV72 from Tuesday, March 08, 2011 3:44:21 PM)
[EdgarV72] Tuesday, March 08, 2011 3:44:21 PM 
No Judas Priest album is crap, man, don't blaspheme... Point Of Entry is a good sounding classic album and Turbo is an iconic 80's metal masterpiece... Jugulator & Demolition are the closer thing to crap that J.P. has done but just some songs....
[Juda SveŠenik] Tuesday, March 08, 2011 2:30:11 PM 

Point Of Entry is a classic, one of my favourite. Most of the songs are great, and it's the only album featuring 3 music videos, if I'm not wrong. I'm not a fan of Turbo album, but Out In The Cold is a brilliant song.

[JudasPriest #1 Chilean Fan] Thursday, February 24, 2011 4:40:37 PM 
Call Crap Point of Entry is Blasphemy!!!.... Point of entry is a great album, songs like heading out the highway, solar angels, hot rockin, desert plains are classics songs! are great songs. But we must recognize that exist another songs, not as good as those mentioned above. For example: All the way, You say yes (I hate this song in particularly) and Troubleshooter. The same thing occurs with Turbo. This record have amazing songs! like Turbo lover, a classic!, Locked In, Private Property, Rock you All Around the world, Out in the Cold, Wild Nights....etc. But the things here are a little different because Judas Priest didn´t sound like anything they have been done before, is a new sound...but not a crap!!
[JudasPriest #1 Chilean Fan] Thursday, February 24, 2011 4:39:56 PM 
Call Crap Point of Entry is Blasphemy!!!.... Point of entry is a great album, songs like heading out the highway, solar angels, hot rockin, desert plains are classics songs! are great songs. But we must recognize that exist another songs, not as good as those mentioned above. For example: All the way, You say yes (I hate this song in particularly) and Troubleshooter. The same thing occurs with Turbo. This record have amazing songs! like Turbo lover, a classic!, Locked In, Private Property, Rock you All Around the world, Out in the Cold, Wild Nights....etc. But the things here are a little different because Judas Priest didn´t sound like anything they have been done before, is a new sound...but not a crap!!
[Mizz.MyKillzzz] Wednesday, February 16, 2011 12:24:32 PM 
I just loveeeee the album Turbo!!!i love it nuff said.Point of Entry in my opion s good,but a bit boring....i never listen to the whole album,i sometimes do when im laying in bed...other than that i rarely listen to it.but Turbo is one of my faves.
[sentinel84] Saturday, January 08, 2011 9:59:35 AM 
both albums are classics I don't care what anybody says. The only reason people do not approve of these albums is because priest tried to experiment with them and they were not as heavy, not as easy to headbang to as an album such as British steel or defenders of the faith. But still both are great
[soccer star] Thursday, January 06, 2011 2:21:03 PM 
Well....i would take an album like either of these rather than no Priest album at all...

Now that Priest (and the Scorpions) are calling it a day and DIO no longer with us, who's next to retire? Maiden? Sabbath? 

Not great days for heavy metal.
[the highway terror] Tuesday, December 21, 2010 9:44:41 PM 
Both Albums were great ! I persoally favor Point of Entry  but Turbo was great too.
   I suspect that many fans just did'nt understand or expect Albums like these from Priest .
   I also think that time has proven the point that these albums were good , the Band still performs tracks from these albums to this day.
[K2M] Tuesday, December 21, 2010 5:18:13 PM 
And when are in the Desert Plains. That album kicks ass. Riding bikes, its hot , It Cranks.
[SpiralDrift] Tuesday, December 21, 2010 4:59:49 AM 
Both of them have really grown on me over time. For a while, Point of Entry was even my favorite Priest album. I've been playing Turbo pretty often lately. I'd always preferred the Priest...Live! versions of the songs, but I've warmed up to the studio versions.

The first half of Point of Entry is amazing. It may not be fast or heavy like their prior albums, but it's really unique and perfect for those days when you just want to relax. :)
[YngwiePriestRule!!] Friday, December 17, 2010 10:13:13 PM 
Both classics, without a doubt. I was one of those late eighties teens, for whom Turbo was my introduction to Priest. The song "Turbo" was a major staple on the local hard rock/metal station. This song catching my attention was what got me interested in Priest.  However.....

Once I knew that "Breakin' the Law" was also a Priest song, and which album Breakin' the Law was on, I was much more eager to buy British Steel on cassette than I was Turbo. 23 years after buying my first cassette copies of both albums, I love both albums more than ever, and never grow tired of either. My favorite of the two, though, has always been, and always will be, British Steel. 

And Point of Entry?? Classic. Period. naaahhhh. Exclamation point!!!!!!!! Love this album!!! While I love all Priest albums, I enjoy Point of Entry even more than British Steel. Nothing beats this album when driving on the open road, IMO. A long drive should always include: 1) Point of Entry 2) British Steel 3) Unleashed in the East 4) Saxon- Wheels of Steel 5) M.S.G.-Assault Attack

  
[black country boy] Thursday, December 16, 2010 6:06:29 AM 
Hey Soccer star,wot yow on about yam yam, Only joking, i know what yow mean mush.
[soccer star] Wednesday, December 15, 2010 12:28:51 PM 
Well said!! spoken like a true yam yam ( i should know)  though i think if i had to take one of these albums on a desert  island it would Turbo..i think.
[black country boy] Wednesday, December 15, 2010 5:33:25 AM 
I think most people miss the point of these two albums, Metal was changing at this point.And has since gone through a lot of changes,So they are both relevant to the time they were released. Turbo has aged worse than point of entry (maybe only in my opinion),But both are still classic priest. Metal after british steel in the uk had to be radio friendly,And i think at this point priest realised this. Turbo era, hair(glam) metal was at the forefront,Again priest realised this. What a great band.
[acolyte55] Wednesday, November 10, 2010 7:20:15 PM 
i like coolers earlier   post and holds true for me also  , memories are a great way to enjoy the music that you love !
[DARTH MAUL] Wednesday, November 10, 2010 3:48:42 PM 
Clasic... I dont know of  A PRIEST album that is crap.
[K2M] Monday, November 08, 2010 1:05:10 PM 
The Judas Priest show, was the best show. Ultra energy. Heavy Songs. With great variety.
[scthree05] Monday, November 08, 2010 10:24:33 AM 
I think ron h had a great point about point of entry following british steel. In that context i can certainly see why POE didn't hit alot of peoples expectations. Now that i have said that though i personally love POE, and Turbo has grown on me over the years. POE gave us many classics like, heading out, desert plains and my favorite solar angels. Turbo had a different sound, it wsn't as raw. But listen to the leads, some of my favorite leads come from Turbo. Rock you all around the world in particular.
                         sam
                     so to answer the qustion .....classic, they have never done bad album in my mind
 

Edited at: Monday, November 08, 2010 10:25:29 AM
[K2M] Thursday, November 04, 2010 5:16:35 PM 
Yeah 100% classic.
[cristi cri] Thursday, November 04, 2010 1:09:13 PM 
100% Classic
[K2M] Thursday, August 12, 2010 2:19:40 PM 
CLASSICS
[Cooler] Tuesday, August 10, 2010 4:36:55 PM 
Both albums are classics in my books. Not only for great songs in them, but the memories they bring with them.
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