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Metallica V's Maiden
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[Budred] Wednesday, January 27, 2010 10:13:22 AM 
Just curious, when did Metallica become Saxon? The topic is Metallica vs. Maiden.
[J.D. DIAMOND] Wednesday, January 27, 2010 5:09:08 AM 
Also,lets forget about Saxon....lets bring in Motorhead...Lemmy isn't supposed to have a voice as good as Bruce,but yet Motorhead's albums the last 15 years are excellent and consistant for "Motorhead fans"and Maiden's last 7 albums are not consistant at all.I know its all opinions but from the fan base I've read and with what I have personally heard from fans here the last 20 years of Iron Maiden's songs are really not  consistant at all.They only give you a couple of worthy tracks on each record and the rest are b-side worthy tracks at best. 

Like the Brave New World album...the tracks The Wicker Man,Ghoast Of The Navigator,The Nomad,Out Of The Silent Planet and The Thin Line...those tracks are great Maiden tracks but the tracks Brave New World,Blood Brothers,Dream Of Mirrors,The Mercenary,Fallen Angel...those 5 tracks are really not that great,I know they don't have to be as good as the other 5 tracks but to me they are hard to listen to,they don't come close to making up the rest of the album to make a great record.Thats how I see it,or hear it if you will.

And I'm an Iron Maiden fan and have been since 1982 man,I am extreamly picky but not being ridiculous with a negative opinion,I am closely listening for classic quality songs by this band and the old school fan base craves material as good as Piece Of Mind and Powersalve and earlier of course,but they come up short with thier song writting .

Is 1990's No Prayer For The Dying that great to you? It wasn't for me.There were 10 tracks on it and only maybe 4 of them were cool...Tailgunner,Run Silent Run Deep,Assassin and Mother Russia....the other 6 songs are shit and anoying and they spank of band song writting choices. Same goes with Fear Of The Dark....was that areally that great of an album? I mean I love the track Be Quick Or Be Dead...fuckin awsome,and maybe The Fugitive and the track "Fear Of The Dark...maybe one more but thats only 4 good songs and that album has 12 songs on it so there are the other 8 songs that are totally lame and it baffles me that they write a great track in Be Quick Or Be Dead and then botch the rest of the album with crappy songs? Its lazy.
And you along with I don't like either album by Blaze Baily(yuk) and that Dance Of Death album...really,there is only maybe 2 or 3 songs on it that are cool(I don't like any of that album)and is the rest really that good it can compare to other tracks on Piece Of Mind or Powerslave or even Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son? Really there isn't.So I can't see other Iron Maiden fans passing the band's last 7 albums off as if they were just as good as The Number Of The Beast album,because they are nowhere close,where as other bands such as Saxon and Motorhead are writting the best albums of their career.I'm not trying to get you to like Saxon or Motorhead better than you like Maiden,I'm just comparing my opinions to yours because again,I'm an Iron Maiden fan too.   [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Brian_Evans from Wednesday, January 27, 2010 12:08:43 AM)
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[J.D. DIAMOND] Wednesday, January 27, 2010 3:27:51 AM 
HAHAHA!! Whatever floats yer boat dude.In my opinion Iron Maiden are "overrated" while Saxon is big time "underrated". And Biff Byford in my opinion is better than Dickinson.Bruce goes off on this caterwalling "pavaroti wannabe" type of singing live while Biff keeps it real,

Bruce is the most irritating live singer in the history of metal.I love his studio work but his live irritating vocals I can't stand.Some live tracks are ok but others are plain right out "over-done" by the vocalist.  Maiden doesn't come close in "destroying" Saxon at all dude.

like I said...if you think Maiden's songs and albums from 1990 - till now are better than Saxon good for you but they are not.I can't say that everyone says that Maiden from 1990 -till now are better than Saxon but I have heard that at least 90% of fans think that Maiden's material of song writting from the 1990 No Prayer For The Dying album till now sucks big time. 

Like I keep saying,the last 7 studio album from Iron Maiden are extreamly "poor" quality albums with the only exception of thier last album and even thats not as good as anything from the last 7 studio albums by Saxon.I suppose your just one of the "fan-boy" Maiden fans...anything they do is A+ material...well good for you.

I actually have a valid opinion of both bands.You just drool over anything Maiden does apparently.So really,your opinion from a "fan-boy" is irrelevant to me.Saxon crushes the crap out of Iron Maiden and they have now for the last 15 years!!!  

 [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Brian_Evans from Wednesday, January 27, 2010 12:08:43 AM)
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[Brian_Evans] Wednesday, January 27, 2010 12:08:43 AM 
Looks like I win! Ha! Can't beliveve you think that guy in Saxon is even in the same league as Bruce Dickinson. Maiden basically destroys Saxon!
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Tuesday, January 26, 2010 3:35:12 AM)
[hellrider 31038] Tuesday, January 26, 2010 5:48:32 PM 
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[J.D. DIAMOND] Tuesday, January 26, 2010 4:08:37 PM 
LOL! Well,I'm just so sick and tired of everybody ranting and raving whoo hooo about "Iron Maiden" how they are the best metal band in the freaking world,they have no shitty songs,every one of thier albums are a+ quality material,no matter what...whatever they write MUST BE BETTER THAN PRIEST,MOTORHEAD,SABBATH,DIO,SAXON,ect....its a freakin "joke"jimmy to say the least man.I'm not saying Saxon are better than Judas Priest,oh hell no...Priest are my #1 favorite band in the world.But I'm going "against the grain"....against the norm,I'm sticking up for Saxon because "I'm givin credit where credit is due". 

I'm not Saying that Saxon doesn't do no wrong either...they still write a couple of boring cheesey tunes too but they only write maybe 2 shit songs on an average on each of thier albums and the rest are cool.If Saxon has 10 songs on an album,at least 8 of them are cool (this is from the last 7 studio albums starting from 1995)where as Maiden writes an album and only if your lucky half of thier songs are cool and the other half are total "shit".
Look at the No Prayer For The Dying LP1990...that album has 10 songs on it and really there is only 3 songs on it that are good Maiden tracks...I could be nice and let them get away with 4 songs. Same thing with 1992 "Fear Of The Dark" that album has 12 songs on it and only 3 of them are good Iron Maiden,the rest is fucking garbage man. 

Look at the next 2 albums 1995 The X Factor and 1998 Virtual Eleven both with lame singer Blaze Baily but still all of those fucking songs suck big time...maybe you could get 3 ok tracks between both albums? Maybe if your lucky.Look at the next album year 2000 Brave New World...10 trakcs on the LP and really only 5 of them are good,maybe you could argue a 6th track,but thats still 4 shitty songs on the album.Look at 2003 album Dance Of Death...I hate that entire record and label it as Bruce Dickinson's worst album with Iron Maiden,10 tracks on that album and maybe you could squeeze 2 worthy songs off it,but in my opinion it all sucks. 

Then 2006 album A Matter Of Life And Death....10 songs on this LP and I actually like 8 of them,but the 2 songs that totally fucking suck are the 2 songs that the band put out as videos and as the first 2 singles off the album,not to mention track#1 off the album is one of the songs that sucks "Different World" blows like Benjamin Bragg does(yuk) but at least the rest of the album is good Iron Maiden in my opinion.So I just covered the last 20 years from Iron Maiden wich is the last 7 studio albums and they are mother fucking "overrated" big time jimmy!!!! lol! 

They are a bunch of overrated musicians that thier fans buy anything by them no matter how much the album sucks they buy it for the picture of Eddie on the front cover and they go see Iron Maiden to hear them play "The Number Of The Beast"...thats just about it,that sums up the average Iron Maiden fan.
Again,I'm not saying Saxon doesn't have any flaws because they write some stupid songs too but they are no where near the amount that Maiden writes. 1995 album Dogs Of War...10 songs and only 2 of them suck,1997 Unleash The Beast....11 tracks and only 2 songs suck,1999 Metalhead album...only 2 songs suck,2001 Killing Ground album only 1 song sucks,2004 Lionheart...all the songs are awsome! 2007 The Inner Sanctum...all the songs are awsome!! 2009 Into The Labyrinth...only 2 songs suck out of 13 songs. 

So Saxon the last 7 studio albums are extreamly way more consistant at writting good songs and obviously writting good albums than the unconsistant overrated band Iron Maiden and I'm comparing the 2 bands on the last 7 studio albums approx. the last 20 years by both bands. In The 80's Iron Maiden blows Saxon away with Maiden's first 5 studio album up to Powerslave but not anymore as I've said Saxon kicks Maiden's ass these days man.

Saxon doesn't get enough credit for thier song writting. 2004 album "Lionheart" is Saxon's best LP and it stands up to such albums as "Screaming For Vengeance,Holy Diver,Diary Of A Madman,The Number Of The Beast,Ride The Lightning...easily yet nobody ever hears of them,so I'm just giving credit where credit is due,thats all.Hails to the most underrated heavy metal band in the world...Saxon! lol!

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Tuesday, January 26, 2010 2:57:09 PM) Edited at: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 4:15:16 PM
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[jimmyjames] Tuesday, January 26, 2010 2:57:09 PM 
Seriously, Saxon should put you on the payroll.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Tuesday, January 26, 2010 3:35:12 AM)
[J.D. DIAMOND] Tuesday, January 26, 2010 3:35:12 AM 
LOL! HAHA sure I'll humor you,why not...heres "To lIve By The Sword" off of Lionheart album.The Nomad song is cool too,but the problem is that Brave New World only has 5 songs out of 10 songs that are cool,the other 5 songs suck man. They have 5 killer Maiden tracks: The Wicker Man,Ghost Of The Navigator, The Nomad,Out Of The Silent Planet  and The Thin Line Between Love And Hate .And they have 5 shitty boring mundane overrated tracks like the boring: Brave New World, Blood Brothers,The Mercenary ,Dream Of Mirrors  and The Fallen Angel.

That makes only a half an album thats worth a shit,this is all my personal opinions of course but I'm basing this off of feed back from multiple fans who have commented on both Maiden albums and Saxon albums.What I'm saying is that Saxon for what they are supposed to be doing are doing it "better" than what Maiden has been doing the last 20 years thats the last 7 studio albums from them. They are all "half-assed" with the exception of 2006's "A Matter Of Life And Death"...that album has 10 songs on it and in my opinion 8 of them are classic Iron Maiden,thier best album since 1988's Seventh Son album.

But the last 7 studio albums by Maiden are really not that great. Brave New World to me is only half good,Dance Of Death is absolutely terrible in my opinion.Now I know you hate the Blaze era and so do I!!! But lets go 2 albums before tha...1990 "No Prayer For The Dying" and 1992 "Fear Of The Dark"...both those albums are extreamly "poor" song writting and theres only like 2 songs from each album that are worthy,the rest of those 2 albums are throw-away material to the max man,they are fucking garbage. I'm not saying you have to like Saxon better than Maiden,I'm just sticking up for Saxon because they have blown Iron Maiden out of the freaking water with Saxon's last 7 studio albums,they tower over Iron Maiden. 

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Brian_Evans from Monday, January 25, 2010 11:23:45 PM)
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[Brian_Evans] Monday, January 25, 2010 11:23:45 PM 
Bruce dickinson is way better than that guy in Saxon. Do you really think that guy in Saxon could pull off a song like Nomad ,The Tropper, Aces High?? I don't think so. That guy in Saxon is just not at the same level as Bruce.

How about an Iron Maiden-Saxon shootout?

Post a Saxon video as good as the one I posted below and I guarantee you i'll post something by Maiden that is better.
[J.D. DIAMOND] Monday, January 25, 2010 10:23:04 PM 
HAHAHA well to maybe you they are,but no denying that the last 7 studio album by Saxon are far better,really....the last 7 stidio albums by Maiden are really not that good at all.Biff Byford's voice is much better than Bruce's voice in my opinion,its just all opinions but Saxon are way better than Iron Maiden from 1990 till now,maybe Iron Maiden from 1980-1985 were better I agree but from 1990 till now freaking way man,Saxon are far far better song writters,Maiden are the biggest overrated band in the world besides Metallica.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Brian_Evans from Monday, January 25, 2010 7:25:18 PM)
[Brian_Evans] Monday, January 25, 2010 7:31:33 PM 
This is sick!!!
[Brian_Evans] Monday, January 25, 2010 7:25:18 PM 
Well Iron Maiden is still way better than Saxon any day. Except maybe the Blaze Bayly era. And I don't care for that guys voice in Saxon at all. Maiden has a superior singer, better guitarist, bass, drums, ect. Iron Maiden is sick!!
[J.D. DIAMOND] Monday, January 25, 2010 5:33:59 AM 

No way,Maiden can't touch Saxon these days.The last 7 studio albums by Saxon blow away the last 7 studio albums by Iron Maiden by FAR.

Saxon's last 7:

1995 -Dogs Of War
1997-Unleash The Beast
2001-Killing Ground
2007-The Inner Sanctum
2009-Into The Labyrinth

(Out of these 7 studio albums only 7 songs are crappy,where as on Maiden's last 7 studio albums they are filled with shitty b-side throw away tracks  and only have very little amount of worthy tracks in my opinion:)


Iron Maiden's last 7

1990 -No prayer For The Dying(crappy album)
1992 -Fear Of The Dark (crappy album)
1995-The X Factor(fucking horrible,worst Iron Maiden album ever)
1998-Virtual Eleven(absolutely terrible)
2000-Brave New World(half good,haf total crap album)
2003-Dance Of Death(shit album,the worst album with Bruce ever)
2006-A Matter Of Life And Death(finally,a worthy album,not thier best but the best album since 1988 Seventh Son album)

No freakin' way are Iron Maiden better than Saxon the last 7 studio albums,Saxon blows Maiden out of the water in quality song writting.

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[Becks] Sunday, January 24, 2010 11:10:04 PM 
A very succinct description there of Lars Ulrich JJ.
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[jimmyjames] Sunday, January 24, 2010 11:03:15 PM 
I'd have to say Maiden because they aren't a bunch of arrogant, dipshits and they've never compromised their sound. Also they don't have a drummer who is the most irritating little cockhead on the planet.
[Brian_Evans] Sunday, January 24, 2010 10:47:44 PM 
Two outstanding bands but Maiden rules. And Maiden is way better than Saxon.
[Budred] Sunday, January 24, 2010 7:36:45 PM 
I've seen Iron Maiden 6 times since 1981 and Metallica 10 times since 1987.
Metallica destroys Iron Maiden(and I like Maiden).Peace!  }: o 
[J.D. DIAMOND] Saturday, January 23, 2010 11:53:45 PM 
Yes Iron Maiden are better than shitallica,but dude..."that ain't sayin' much at all man!! Its ridiculous to post Judas Priest Vs. whomever because we are on the freakin' Judas Priest forum,but put Maiden up against a real band like "Saxon" vote goes out to Saxon obviously,they kick the livin shit out of Maiden the last 20 years(1990-2010)no contest.
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[Frosty] Saturday, January 23, 2010 11:46:06 PM 
I fuckin hate Metallica, so Maiden every time.
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