|[Head banger] Monday, September 07, 2009 8:14:08 PM|| |
|the issue I have with canada (not that the US or any other place has a perfect system) is this|
we claim that all are equal. now we know that the true big wheels of govt and industry are more equal. the super rich do beter. I am fine with that. but if your gonna pretend that its 1 tier and money or industry is no advantage and cant be used to buy an advantage then it should be so. lets say I slip in my driveway and tear my MCL. (some ligament in the knee). I will limp around for 6 months before I see a specialist and get an apointment for surgery.
if I slip at work then I am on WCB and get seen in about 10 days. if I was a pro hockey player I get seen tomorow and operated on the day the swelling goes down enough to do it. thats treating everyone the same? bullshit.
we focus so much on fixing, rather than prevention. I work with a woman who needs a knee replacement. she cant get an apointment because she has 10% cartilage left. so she gets told she cant walk till her leg is worn out. well if you cant walk its screwed, but leave her in pain for years tilll she can get on the list.
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|[Dime/UNDER BLOOD RED SKIES!!!!] Monday, September 07, 2009 7:51:12 PM|| |
|AAAAAaaaaaaaah gotcha, i thought you meant like everytime you go to any doctor. Honestly i don't understand the great hatred for the canadian way of medicine. I've been to the the hospital 3 times in my life for serious shit, once for a day surgery on my ribs, once for a teenage drug overdose( oh those stupid teen years) and the last for some pretty extreme surgery on my arm. Each and everytime i had no problem with anything. I may have waited a couple of hours but that was about it. I guess the complaints come more from seniors with cancer who have to wait a long time or seek medical attention in the states. I'd say our system needs a few fixes but overall id give it an 8 out of ten. Im very happy with our system.|
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|[Head banger] Monday, September 07, 2009 7:45:05 PM|| |
|private clinics are ilegal. and if you want a different treatment you have to go to the states and pay for it yourself. which is technicaly not permited. |
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|[Dime/UNDER BLOOD RED SKIES!!!!] Monday, September 07, 2009 7:38:17 PM|| |
| i do believe alot of this is hype and rumor, probably started up by racist assholes who dont like the colour of his skin. What really grabbed me and made me think something different about him( until then i thought he was a perfect guy for pres, clear voice, head on his shoulders and america's best interests in mind) was i heard he was continuing the use of the patriot act. |
By the way HB what are you talking about illegal to seek medical attention unless o.k.ed by the government?
|[ron h] Monday, September 07, 2009 7:16:13 PM|| |
|Okay Dime, I'm posting after reading your entry w/o reading other posts so I'm not influenced in my opine...I think back to when Clinton was first elected (I did not vote for him) and all the so called "promises" he made. When he arrived on Capitol Hill, he was taken aside by several incumbents from both parties and in so many words was told that they didn't care what he "promised to get here", but things worked a certain way and no one man was going to change that. Well, it took awhile, but he was eventually able to do a lot of what he "promised"...for better or worse. Nothing's different with Obama...same sh*t, different day!!|
As far as church, birth certificate, free speech zones and the "leave America now" crap...it's all just that. Anyone can start a rumor and have it quickly spread, thanks in no small part to the Internet!! DON'T BELIEVE THE HYPE!!!!
Americas problems run deep and change is not gonna happen over night or even in one or two terms...but there has to be a start. Time will tell, not the short term. Most (not all) of the crap being shoveled is being done by anti-dems/anti-Obama folk, it happens after every election. Only folks with nothing better to do (or jobless folks for $20 a day) are shoveling this stuff and should be thought of accordingly.
Again, ONLY time will tell...and nothing else!!!
This is from a man who's proud to be an American and who's NOT running scared or is leaving this great country...EVER!!!
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||Dime/UNDER BLOOD RED SKIES!!!! wrote:
Ok ive been hearing about this stuff so often lately and talking about it that i was really curious about the metal community thoughts about this. I'm Canadian so i can't really have that much of an opinion on the guy, but from what i can tell he's been giving alot of false promises, and it seems as much as he said we was going to change the mess Bush left, that he is flip flopping on many of those promises.
The controversies about his birth certificate to to the lies about his church, its crazy because ive seen so much different opinions on the guy from him being the greatest man in recorded history to some going as far as saying that he is the Anti-christ. Many americans i talk to are sure of some kind of revolution or civil war is in the near future.
I know this could have been left to the political thread, but i think this deserves a little more light than that. Rumors are getting crazier everytime i hear them. A friend showed me a video of supposed "death camps" being built in cities across the country. The video ends with a really big message "LEAVE AMERICA NOW!" I cant help but think this is just nuts trying to scare the crap out of gulible people, but at the same time certain things going on i can honestly say are kinda freaky. All citizens are going to have to go through military training for 3 months, mandatory? Free speech being limited to free speech "Zones" I really would like to know what some people think on this subject.
Edited at: Monday, September 07, 2009 7:18:21 PM
|[Head banger] Monday, September 07, 2009 7:13:59 PM|| |
|honest politicians exist, they are just a little more scarce than unicorns.|
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|[Head banger] Monday, September 07, 2009 7:13:33 PM|| |
|or you could live in canada where its against the law to seek medical attention without government aproval.|
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|[Dime/UNDER BLOOD RED SKIES!!!!] Monday, September 07, 2009 7:03:16 PM|| |
|hahahaha never heard that one before|
|[Becks] Monday, September 07, 2009 6:58:38 PM|| |
|LOL! That joke is old and used to say President Bush, not Obama.|
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Secesh1864 from Monday, September 07, 2009 6:57:03 PM)
|[Secesh1864] Monday, September 07, 2009 6:57:03 PM|| |
Look up the cold war, the people we put in place/ backed were generally the lesser of two evils, when compaired to those the Soviets backed :)
A joke that sums up Obama:
A man died and went to heaven. As he stood in front of
St. Peter at the Pearly Gates, he saw a huge wall of
clocks behind him.
He asked, 'What are all those clocks?'
St. Peter answered, 'Those are Lie-Clocks.
Everyone on Earth has a Lie-Clock.
Every time you lie the hands on your clock will move.
'Oh,' said the man, 'whose clock is that?'
'That's Mother Teresa's. The hands have
never moved, indicating that she never told a lie.'
'Incredible, ' said the man. 'And whose
clock is that one?'
St. Peter responded, 'That's Abraham
Lincoln 's clock. The hands have
moved twice, telling us that Abe told only two lies
in his entire life.' ( Bullshit)
'Where's President Obama's clock?' asked the man.
Obama's clock is in Jesus' office.
He's using it as a ceiling fan.
Edited at: Monday, September 07, 2009 7:02:27 PM
|[Dime/UNDER BLOOD RED SKIES!!!!] Monday, September 07, 2009 6:52:04 PM|| |
| Well thats honestly what im hoping for, a lot of bad things can be said about america, ironically most of it being in the last 50 years or so. Over throwing governments of foreign nations, instaling dictators and the whole Iraq situation comes to mind. I really think though that most americans are true blue, red and white. Americans have done many, many things to be proud of and to be patrotic about. The greatest in my opinion is your constitution, for being hundreds of years old the founding fathers of yours made a peice of paper that gave people born in that country the freedom to live their lives the way they feel. America was founded on the belief that people, not governments control people's destiny, it may have been a borrowed idea, but it is still one of the greatest to live by.|
|[spapad] Monday, September 07, 2009 6:35:12 PM|| |
|I assure you, the american people will not sit by and let our rights be striped from us. Many of us know what is going on and we will put forth our voice when it comes to infringing on our rights, I just wish, the people would come together for these points that are not so leathal. Voting in a govenerment is our duty, but this president truely came in to a place that was hostile in policy and much in debt, all not his fault, but it is up to him now, to try to turn the tide, and give the country more. He is between a Rock and and a hard Place as the outgoing president raped this country for all it was worth, and all his big corporate friends made Huge money off him, up to and including 9/11.|
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|[Dime/UNDER BLOOD RED SKIES!!!!] Monday, September 07, 2009 6:25:41 PM|| |
|But u see that's what I mean, that should not be allowed to happen, u know
why it happens? Greedy pricks with money, money changes everything, that is the true
BS. It's unnerving also that a country that promotes freedom for 200 years and is now
beginingg to do an about face and is slowly becoming a police state, all over the
guise of terrorism, Hitler did the same thing, historic fact.|
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Monday, September 07, 2009 6:12:05 PM)
|[spapad] Monday, September 07, 2009 6:12:05 PM|| |
|It doesn't matter, We the People has always been a fantasy anyway, as the "Electoral college" dicides the vote. We can vote, but just like what happened when Dubbuh got elected, can happen again. America by vote, chose Gore, but we got Bush. Does that make any sence to you?|
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Dime/UNDER BLOOD RED SKIES!!!! from Monday, September 07, 2009 6:06:53 PM)
|[Dime/UNDER BLOOD RED SKIES!!!!] Monday, September 07, 2009 6:06:53 PM|| |
|BS, I'm talking about elections, politicians should almost be treated
like criminals, make sure bribing and buy offs can't happen, I wasn't talking
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Monday, September 07, 2009 6:04:00 PM)
|[spapad] Monday, September 07, 2009 6:04:00 PM|| |
|Fine, do that, and then you have communism and everyone wearing the same clothes. No thanks.|
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Dime/UNDER BLOOD RED SKIES!!!! from Monday, September 07, 2009 6:01:42 PM)
|[Dime/UNDER BLOOD RED SKIES!!!!] Monday, September 07, 2009 6:01:42 PM|| |
|Democracy needs to be stripped of the banks and money that is raping the
entire system, IMO |
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|[spapad] Monday, September 07, 2009 5:57:55 PM|| |
DIME, I'm with Momo here! Just more bullshit the public at large was sold, and we just had to pick which candidate sucked less! With McCain, we woud have been screwed by carrying on GWB's poliicy, so we sought to change it.
Our quigmire with a new president, may cause problems, might not work, but certainly, could it get ANY WORSE than what Bush did to us? I think not. I hope big business is now out of big government at least. We shall see.
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|[Dime/UNDER BLOOD RED SKIES!!!!] Monday, September 07, 2009 5:56:12 PM|| |
|Well I would imagine that if my freedoms were dissolving and my country
going bankrupt from politicians dragged around by there wallets would
upset me a little more the a politican going against his word|