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[J.D. DIAMOND] Wednesday, May 20, 2009 10:25:46 PM 

My friend downloaded it for free just for me to listen to.Besides,youtube has all songs to listen to in its entirety.

And they did not experiment with Jugulator...all the songs run the same formula as Painkiller,Angel Of Retribution..ect......what is experimental about Jugulator? Nothing.

I am against "experimentation".  I would be happy if Judas Priest quit experimenting and focus on "heavy metal"....

I don't want "something different" at all.....I want the same thing year after year......HEAVY METAL ...screaming in your face heavy metal....like hellrider likes!!! LOL!

When Angel Of Retribution was released..you didn't hear anybody complaining that "it wasn't experimental enough"??? No,fans were thrilled to hear a killer JP recording without any B.S.

Nostradamus is boring and flat,and is way to mellow and slow.  


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[chileansteel] Wednesday, May 20, 2009 8:51:42 PM 
That`s right Head banger!
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[Head banger] Wednesday, May 20, 2009 8:44:30 PM 
yep, they have far different experiences, interests and abilities than us.  and they run the show, they produce something different every time out.  this one I didnt get, I dont hold it against them though
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[chileansteel] Wednesday, May 20, 2009 7:48:42 PM 
Nice stated Icecreamman!
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[icecreamman] Wednesday, May 20, 2009 7:43:05 PM 
Actually Priest did experiment with Jugalator.

By the way, I just want to know, How have you heard Nostradomus without buying it?
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[icecreamman] Wednesday, May 20, 2009 7:36:35 PM 

Rock n Roll or Metal would not exist if not for experimentation. We would all be listening to jazz. Every Priest album has  personality, beuase they are all different.
Nostradomus is great, I love it. There is no comparison to it. Nostradomus is not my favorite JP album, but it is the one that captures me.

By the way there is not any generic form of heavy metal. Thrash would not exist if it was.

AC/DC is a great band, they are one of my favorite bands. But every one of their albums sound the same. I listen to them in small portions. I can listen to Priest album after Priest album for months. Becuase they are different. 

I also thought metal was about not being the same. Standing out from the crowd. Why be generic? If you think Priest are going to go generic than "You've got another thing comin' ."


Edited at: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 7:40:19 PM
[spapad] Wednesday, May 20, 2009 7:09:36 PM 
Thank you C.S.!
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[chileansteel] Wednesday, May 20, 2009 7:05:42 PM 

I agree with you Spa! Metal is alive thanks to experimentation! You`ve got another interesting point there. They`re human beings influenced by their personal experiences and the world around.


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[spapad] Wednesday, May 20, 2009 6:30:37 PM 
I think with every album Priest has ever released they have pushed the boundaries and experimented. That's why we have albums like turbo and Point of Entry, which was pretty good, but you'll never hear me say "Man do I wanna hear Troubleshooter live!" NOPE. With experimentation comes so who like and some who don't. There are a couple of songs on Nos, I'm not fond of, but the epic as a whole I enjoy to listen to.  As a matter of fact I can never get to the end of "Alone" and not hit repeat. But experimentation is what they do best and the reason they are still relavent today. If they released another Painkiller, people would say they've gone round the bend, it was a good album, but life progresses forward and so do they.
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[Head banger] Wednesday, May 20, 2009 6:24:41 PM 
yep.  heck I like turbo.
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[Metallark] Wednesday, May 20, 2009 6:20:29 PM 
The first pass I was not impressed but as I listened more closely and focused on the creativeness I was amazed at some of the things this album brought. Is it my favorite?  No. But like most albums there are bright and not so bright moments. It's a far beyond TURBO, Point of Entry, and RAM IT DOWN which also had some bright spots (Blood Red Skies, Out in the Cold, Hot Rockin).

Bottom line....good or bad it's Judas Priest which fuels my metal urges.
Edited at: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 6:21:41 PM
[chileansteel] Wednesday, May 20, 2009 6:18:06 PM 

Of course it`s not. There's no accounting for taste. Don`t you think?


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[chileansteel] Wednesday, May 20, 2009 6:16:48 PM 

I`m with you! It`s difficult to create a concept album and Judas Priest did it wonderfully!


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[chileansteel] Wednesday, May 20, 2009 6:15:52 PM 

The debate goes on and on...

We cannot deny that experimentation is good. It refreshes the bands and gives them new ideas to add colour and dimentions to their music.

Anyway, following your logic, you`ve nothing to worry about.


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[Head banger] Wednesday, May 20, 2009 5:59:33 PM 

I own it, have listened all the way thru, and dont like it.  lots do, in fact I wish more people did like it, but some dont.  its not wrong.

 


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[B Dharma] Wednesday, May 20, 2009 5:46:35 PM 

NOSTRADAMUS IS A SUCCESS, FAR FROM A FAILURE...  VERY EPIC IN FACT..  

Now I understand JD..  You never had the album and had the chance to listen to it straight through with the lyrics and cds..
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[J.D. DIAMOND] Wednesday, May 20, 2009 5:03:53 PM 

I understand your opinion,but don't agree with it and thats alright. 

But to me,Judas Priest did NOT EXPERIMENT with albums like Rocka Rolla being thier first they did not experiment,then with albums like Sad Wings Of Destiny,  Sin After Sin,  Stained Class,  Hell Bent For Leather  

"British Steel", Screaming For Vengeance,  Defenders Of The Faith,  Painkiller,  Jugulator  
and   Angel Of Retribution.....     these 11 albums Judas Priest did not experiment with...they just wrote Priest styled heavy metal...

The albums they did experiment with were "Point Of Entry" with trying different tracks commercial like "Don't Go - You Say Yes-  Trouble Shooter,All The Way - On the run....

Then the horrible album "Turbo,   Ram It Down,  Demolition and Nostradamus. Those 5 albums they experimented with and each one of them "failed".....every time they "failed"...they came back with a NORMAL Judas Priest album.

After experimenting with Point Of Entry....they came back with "Screaming For Vengeance.

After experimenting with "Turbo & Ram It Down"(since the two were supposed to be a double album)..they came back with "Painkiller".

After experimenting with "Demolition"....they came back with "Angel Of Retribution".

So history shows that every time they fail at an experimental album,they always come back with a NORMAL traditional JP album like I mentioned.

I think that they will do the same after failing at Nostradamus.

I also believe that most people are forcing themselves to like Nostradamus because of its epic magnitude.

I have many albums that are just as "epic" and massive as Nostradamus that blow it away because of the strong song writting.

Just my thoughts,no worries. I'm glad you enjoy Nostradamus,I sure don't,...never bought it and never will.Thats one of 3 JP albums I will never have on my shelf space.

Then take Saxon for example...they wrote thier last 7 LPs on running on the same formula,yet none of them sound "the same"....and they kick the crap out of JP's experimental albums by far.

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[B Dharma] Wednesday, May 20, 2009 4:24:40 PM 

NOSTADAMUS is brilliant,

I'm so surprised that there are some like JD who can't enjoy it.  It's progressive elements and intellectual writing are what the PRIEST fans crave.
And yes, there are PLENTY of metal moments on the album. Halford's vocals are some of the BEST he's ever accomplished. The double leads and solos are astonishing in parts, especially Tipton's solo on P&P( maybe his best) which leads into a GREAT double lead.. 
What's not to like about EXILED or PERSECUTION, or even FUTURE OF MANKIND?? I just don't get it..
This album ranks with the BEST that PRIEST has EVER done.. AOR is a great album but pales in comparison to the spectacle and vision of NOSTRADAMUS..

Adam
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[chileansteel] Wednesday, May 20, 2009 4:16:01 PM 

It is a fact that we see things differently. There are some bands that always follow the same formula and it`s alright, it`s safe. But there are other bands that look for new challenges and don`t get satisfied only with selling albums, receiving money or making their fans happy, doing the same thing all the time. That`s the easy way!. Judas Priest falls into the second category. They just let their creativity flow and dare to do new things which I think is great. They`ve learned and evolved thanks to experimentation. They`ve always wanted to go beyond. If they hadn`t challenged themselves, we wouldn`t have albums like British Steel, Defenders of the Faith, Painkiller, Angel of Retribution, Nostradamus. If they hadn`t dared to do new things we would still be listening to albums in the vain of Rocka Rolla.

It`s great to see these Metal Gods stretching their wings and doing what they feel. Good musicians as Judas Priest always feel the need of inventing and reinventing. That`s why they`ve been around so long. They don`t need to repeat themselves over and over because they have the experience, musicianship and talent to create an original job and this has allowed them to be in the vanguard.

We have to consider it`s really difficult to be at the top for almost 40 years, being creative, original, doing Metal, which is a very complex style.


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[J.D. DIAMOND] Wednesday, May 20, 2009 3:04:51 PM 
Really? I don't.     Nostradamus is one of the 3 worst Judas Priest albums out of the band's 16 studio album career......Turbo,,Demolition and Nostradamus.Thats just my opinion,but I still hate those albums.

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