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[DemonCat] Tuesday, June 17, 2008 2:54:20 PM 
I appreciate the sudgestion Schmelzer. 

I bought Fight War of Words on cassette when it first came out, and later replaced it on CD of course. I also own Halford's Ressurrection, Crucible, and Live Insurrection. I'm not all about fast blow your eardrums out heavy metal. It's just that Nostradamus is way off the mark from what I expected from JP. I'm expecting my copy in the mail today, and as I've said on anther thread...I'll keep it in my collection, and give it it's fair chance to grow on me. None-the-less there will be no gaps in my JP collection with Rob as their singer. I've got some back-catalog catching up to do with his solo career, so I'll focus there until their (JP's) next CD comes out.
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[~ MG_Metalgoddess~] Tuesday, June 17, 2008 1:08:08 PM 
Hey Buddy.. Let me know that you have made it to Ottawa Okay.. So I dont worry~

I voice my little opinion on the other  I love some of it.. and Like some of it..  I cannot say anything bad in regards to this album. So far so good.
All the guys sound very good..  Considering all of the different music that has come out since AOR.. I do like this album.
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[Deep Freeze] Tuesday, June 17, 2008 1:03:24 PM 
Please allow me to say that it appears I was wrong. I must have been having a bad day and I clearly let this get out of hand. My apologies to Mr. Ward for the treatment and rude comments. Not everyone is going to like this new album. It is a clear departure from what we have come to expect, especially given that AoR was really so good (in my opinion).

There is really no cause to go on about demeaning others. It is obvious that I misunderstood Mr. Ward's comments. My apologies to all.
Edited at: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 1:04:07 PM
[Soylentgreen4u] Tuesday, June 17, 2008 9:41:16 AM 
[JayDee  Jepsen] Tuesday, June 17, 2008 8:53:27 AM 
Metal Thrash Magazine review:

Our Rating: 8.6 Others Thought
Metal Invader 50/100

Legendary metal heads Judas Priest, has come a long way starting off the whole trend of the leather jacket scene with motorcycle riding babes and rocking guitar riffs and solos tearing us to pieces. There career has taken them around the world more than once, touring and selling out shows and millions of albums world wide. What keeps the blood rushing to their head not wanting to give up? I’ll tell you what. The power and inspiration they receive from their loyal and beloved fans. Judas Priest has brought great music to our ears and will not stop until they are good and ready.

Judas Priest’s forthcoming album "Nostradamus," is set during the 16th century prophet of the same name. This being the band's first concept album it was pushed back several times. Having to have come out late 2006 got turned into 2007 but the offical release date is June 17th 2008. During an interview, on and off guitarist K.K. Downing revealed that 18 tracks had been recorded back in 2007. Not a single track was going to be put aside. The band wanted to aim for releasing a double disc CD or triple vinyl whenever it was to be released.

"Nostradamus," offers symphonic orchestrations, a lot of keyboard useage and a choir unlike any the band has used before. Overall this album was developed over a long period of time and it paid off to have waited this long. The first disc contains 13 tracks of heart pulsing guitar riffs and drum tones throughout. Some tracks worth listening to would have to include: "The Four Horsemen," to start off with. This title alone brings a reminder of what it stands for. This title represents the thunderous force that has terrorizes our world. The music behind it is just as forcing as the real thing. "Sands of Time," is another out-going track that takes you away with it's keyboarding styles that puts you at ease with its backdrop of guitars and bass solos coming in and out keeping in step with the drumming and vocals. Tracks nine and ten “Peace,” and “Death,” go hand in hand because one talks about wanting peace on earth, while the other wants to destroy earth and kill everything in sight. The first disc is by far a great introduction but one standout track has to be,"Lost Love."  This mellow love song brings tears to your eyes having your heart melt into your hands, bringing nothing but happiness drawing upon your face.

The second disc gives us 10 tracks continuing the story of "Nostradamus," having several tracks that are very ear catching. "Solitude," rips off your head getting the beat underway and keeps your head moshing with it's fast guitar riffs and keyboards pounding out as much as they can give. "Shadows in the Flame," is a much darker track pulling you into the dark pit of fire and not letting go. The vocals, guitars, bass, and drums all come together on this dark riff of blaze and glory. Last but not lease has to be the title track, which indeed completes this album showing us exactly what Judas Priest is made of and they have done their job well.

If you are a fan and wish to witness this brillant album in person then go catch Judas Priest in concert this summer, they are waiting for your arrival.

Written by: Napy666

Rating System
Thrash Magazine's overall rating system is based on the following criteria. Judas Priest received a 8.6 because of the following:
Instrumental Rating (1-30): 25
Vocal Rating (1-30): 26
Lyrical Rating (1-25): 20
Presentation Rating (1-15): 15
[Freek] Tuesday, June 17, 2008 8:14:21 AM 

I really enjoy this album because of its creativity.  Judas Priest rocks because they aren't afraid to try something different.  If I wanted the same old comfortable shoe, I'd pick up some CD by IronMaiden/Slayer/Ozzy.  Priest takes risks with their sound and I'm a gamblin man too.  Violins.. synth.. Halford singing in Italian.. mandolin.. hell yea ! ! ! 

And now this posession..

Becomes my one obsession....


[Gary Lewis14716] Tuesday, June 17, 2008 8:00:47 AM 
We waited 3 years for this tripe?  Why no proper production.or producer? .awful songs awful sound..bury the album and write it off as an anomaly...remember them for their great canon of music and forget this ever happened.

Doesn't even sound like the band cares on this album...
[JayDee  Jepsen] Tuesday, June 17, 2008 7:41:06 AM 
Wow! Immortal Sin is a great song.........I think Halford should substitute some of the weaker Priest songs for some 'halford or 'fights' tunes. then we would have a really great Priest show.
[Schmeltzer] Tuesday, June 17, 2008 6:55:29 AM 
It's alright, DemonCat. I'm not too thrilled about this new release either. It's not that bad, but I think it's too long and a bit boring. Maybe this is the right moment to check out some of Halford's solo albums? These albums might give you more satisfaction than Judas Priest's "Nostradamus". Let's take Fight's debut album "War Of Words" for example. This album truly is a forgotten gem. "War of words" is definitely the way to go if you're looking for something heavier and more dangerous.

Hearing songs like "Nailed To The Gun", "Into To Pit" and "Kill It" for the first time I thought to myself "Wow, the Metal God is really pissed off!" This album is heavy for sure. But not every song is heavy, there are also a few slower songs on this disc. The awesome "For All Eternity" for example. Halford's vocals will kick your ass, Scott Travis is an animal on the drum kit and the other musicians are very talented as well. I payed a whoppin' seven bucks for this disc! LOL! Still sealed! Quite a bargain!

Check out the song "Nailed To The Gun" and see if it doesn't send you into spastic headbanging fits: 

Here's a song called "Immortal Sin". I really dig that grungy thrash sound:

The awesome heavy metal ballad "For All eternity":
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[screaming_4_priest] Tuesday, June 17, 2008 6:52:10 AM 

I brought the album yesterday, & have listend to it twice now, i love it, every song just works if you ask me, there is defintly alot to take in, but its really great to follow the story, &  read along with the lyrics.

Peace through to Alone i think is the best part of the story telling, im not saying they are my fav songs though.

Edited at: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 6:53:32 AM
[scaryman] Tuesday, June 17, 2008 5:47:59 AM 
I agree with you Guitardude. I got mine yesterday and I've listened to it a couple of times now, it is different, but i like it too....and you do need the volume up, but that's how i listen to all of my music....haha!

I'll give it a thumbs up 

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[Return_of_Darth_Painkiller_0870] Tuesday, June 17, 2008 3:34:24 AM 
Okay let me apologize for not replying until now.  I tend to have a life outside of work and Priest fandom like the rest of my metal brethern do (I bet that shocks you, doesn't it, Rob?).

Very true, HB.  Rob, it's mind-boggling to myself and plenty of others for you to say that you basically hate every release that Priest has put out starting with Turbo through now (not sure why you don't include Painkiller in that as well, since they're using processors there as well too).  As for not wanting to make people upset...what did you expect to happen when you go and bash the band's effort on their own website!?!?  You didn't think about that, did you?  

As for you not knowing anything about DF's condition, that's fine.  It took me a while to figure out what the deal was myself, but don't you bother reading or perusing the other threads?  I don't get that, but to each their own.

To be perfectly honest, Rob...I won't listen to either Jugulator or Demolition b/c I'm not a fan of Ripper Owens.  However, I think HB put it best when he said that he doesn't understand how everything from Turbo through AOR sound alike to you.  I'm not a musician, but even my untrained ear can easily discern that none of those CD's sound similiar.  

Okay, my involvement in this discussion has ended.  I'm not commenting further on it.

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[.] Tuesday, June 17, 2008 1:21:08 AM 
I think people were mostly shocked because you lacked the elements to a good review, though I respect your opinion and think nothing of it.
I believe whoever listens to Nostradamus will find the flaws and its many good moments by themselves.
You must agree, though, that the stage show this time around is awesome. Actually, it is phenomenal. The lighting and the props are very well done. The use of the black, red and gold compliments the band very well. I can only expect great sound quality when they've put so much care this time into providing a visual feast to the audience, don't you think so?
The band members look fresh in their well made outfits and the silver cape that Rob Halford wears on stage is theatrically a good move. The photos out there so far make this tour look like it's worth travelling to see, though the album cover itself is a load of tripe. Graphic designers don't know the... from the... and the logo should not have been changed. Some things the fans love enough to wish to see them unchanged. The golden JP symbols on the stage make up for this faux-pas. I'm expecting a great tour and I look forward to reading the reviews posted on the web. 

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[Head banger] Monday, June 16, 2008 10:43:55 PM 
OK, I was trying to avoid this, but well I can't.

Rob, you have every right to your opinion, but you cant expect to go to a Judas Priest website and say you hate them and not annoy people.  your saying you were defending yourself, well, darth, DF and others were defending a band they love.

I dont quite understand how turbo, RID, Jug, Demo and Angel all sound similar to you, but thats your thing.  I havent listened to this yet, because I want the Actual CD so I can hear it on decent speakers.  either I like it or I dont, but either way, I like priest.
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[High Flyin' Guy] Monday, June 16, 2008 8:58:44 PM 
I'm shocked dude!!  I really thought you would have liked this type of CD. I didn't think you were expecting anything
Painkiller style.
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[guitardude] Monday, June 16, 2008 8:17:32 PM 
OK,for the record here. I just finished "Nostraamus" in it`s entirety. I like it. Not exactly what I expected,but I like it . Had the volume way up so I got the full on assault of power presented. If anyone gave it a listen down low,try again and turn it up!!
As for disgruntled fans here,perhaps it`s time to move on,no offense is meant by that. It`s just time that`s all.
Edited at: Monday, June 16, 2008 8:19:07 PM
[Rob Ward] Monday, June 16, 2008 8:04:56 PM 

Alright Darth first let’s go back to the beginning and why we are here in the first place. I gave my honest opinion about the cd, I didn't call anyone names, I didn't say you was stupid if you like this cd, I didn't bring anyone in to it. I've never talked to you or Deep before in my life, I have no idea who you are, I don't know what kind of person you are, and I've never read any of your post. So then I get attacked by the two of you and neither of you know anything about me, yet you call me names and tell lies and half truths about me, even up to today you called me and "arrogant S.O.B" and it's completely unwarranted as I have been defending myself from your attacks since your first response to me.

As for my "HONEST" review of the cd, I held nothing back because I'm tired of the same old crap this band has been putting out since Turbo with the exception of Painkiller. I said I hate Judas Priest because at this point I do; I hate them because they make it hard for me to continue to be fan. I'm sick of the thrash metal cd’s and songs, I'm sick of the down right crappy music, see Ram It Down. I know every cd can't be Screaming for Vengeance, but damn dude this crap they've been putting out is getting old. I'm tired of hearing Glenn play solo's that all sound the same, they're all fast, noodley, and void of any feeling. I hate that they use processors instead of real amps, their guitar tone is nothing like it used to be, in fact its worse then it's ever been. I hate it when I hear or read an interview and they say things like "The Metal Community," "The Kids," I'm forty freakin' years old I'm not a kid, and I don’t think of music in terms of metal being this separate entity that people who like Judas Priest listen to nothing but heavy metal.  I have a very diverse taste in music and I don’t want to be included in this alternative universe. This isn’t the 80’s when Heavy Metal was considered the devils music, heck it has its own category at the music awards thanks to Metallica.

Then they come out with this conceptual album, if you like it that's fine with me but I don't. I don't want to like it, I want to listen to music with feeling and energy, fist pumping head banging actual music, not some freakin' "Metal Opera" that I have to listen to in the dark 3 or 4 times by myself before I "Understand" what they're trying to do. When I was 15 I probably would have liked this cd, I would have thought of it as some mysterious puzzle that I had to decode. That's why I used the phrase, "Mush Brained Adolescences," at 15 that's pretty much what you are. Being 40 years old I look at it as a piece of crap and a waste of time. Who gives a freak about Nostradamus anyway? Why in the heck is it about Nostradamus? He's as irrelevant as the cold war.

I was listening to Halfords solo stuff, War of Words, and Resurrection, those 2 cd's are better then anything Priest has put out since Defenders of the Faith, with the exception of Painkiller. Crucible is another great cd, I listen to that stuff and then I hear Nostradamus and I ask myself, why am I still a fan of this band? I've been listening to Priest since 1978 when I first heard Green Manalishi, but since Turbo came out I have been less and less a fan. When Painkiller came out it was a breath of fresh air, I thought to myself finally a cd that I'm proud to listen to, then the whole thing with Rob leaving the band and the way in which they handled it, Glenn calling Tim the best singer Priest ever had etc. etc. it was a joke. I'm sure you've heard a band call "Airborne," those guys are kicking ass, they're the complete package. Their songs kick ass, their actually entertaining to listen to, and its actual music. Their guitar tone is to die for, the guitar work is so bluesy and soulful, it's the kind of music you have on while your hanging with your buddies and or your girl while your drinking a couple of beers shooting some pool or whatever. Nostradamus doesn't offer that so I'm not interested in Nostradamus.

As for Deep and his physical condition, like I said I don't know they guy, I've never read any of his post, I don't know what kind of person he is. But like with you I have been defending myself since he first responded to my post. I never attacked him he attacks me by calling me names and suggesting to other people that my opinion was irrelevant because he didn't agree with it. I don't wish bad things on anyone and I'll keep him in my prayers, but being disabled isn't a free pass, I won't hesitate to defend myself.

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[Deep Freeze] Monday, June 16, 2008 6:06:59 PM 
Well said, JD. Very well said, indeed.
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[J.D. DIAMOND] Monday, June 16, 2008 5:15:15 PM 
MELTDOWN, my friend at work burned this CD for me and I did listen to the entire CD,and I have to say that I fully 100% agree with you and your post. I do not like this CD with the exceptions of the song "Nostradamus" and a couple of intros....Visions was "ok" ...but the over all opinion of mine....I just do not care for it but it is well put together,I give them full credit,its just that you can't please everybody...some people out there do not like Angel Of Retribution....but to me with the exception of Lockness the only song I don't care for off the album...the other 9 tracks are classic Judas Priest....

You could even throw out Revolution if ya wanted and still have 8 classic Judas Priest songs that make an albums worth....Judas Rising,Deal With The Devil,Worth Fighting For,Demonizer,Wheels Of Fire,Angel,Eulogy and Hellrider ..........Angel Of Retribution I think is far better work than Nostradamus...but I am not going to bash the album to bits,I've liked this band to long to do that,and this is not like Turbo....I think Deep Freeze said it best when he said that he has never been dissappointed with thier effort that the give. I do think that this new album is done with the bands full 100% and not some half assed effort,no...this is thier heart and soul poured into this and I hail them for that alone.I am just into the traditional british heavy metal sound....some of this reminds me of new "Blind Guardian" from Germany....with the synths everywhere......its just the "song writting" that I don't care for...not the pace of these songs....... I as well wanted the whole album to be more in a Painkiller/Angel Of Retribution/Screaming For Vengeance with a touch of Sad Wings Of Destiny.  

Judas Priest will always be my all time favorite band from 1980 when I first heard Breaking The Law up till now and beyond.That will never change even if the band stays into this new be it.
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